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knomeany release team member around?13:21
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tumbleweed!ask|knome14:24
ubot2knome: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:24
knomewe need an FFe for bug #104821714:24
ubot2Launchpad bug 1048217 in ubuntu "Re-introduce indicator-sound-gtk2/ido-gtk2" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104821714:24
micahgcan we get an out of band xubuntu desktop respin if it's not too much trouble?20:34
cjwatsonSure, on its way20:35
micahgthanks20:35
cjwatsonThere's an Ubuntu Studio build occupying the x86 buildds at the moment, so I don't know how long it will take20:35
micahgok, was just hoping for some time today,20:36
knomehey cjwatson20:37
cjwatsonhi20:37
knomebug #104821720:37
ubot2Launchpad bug 1048217 in ubuntu "Re-introduce indicator-sound-gtk2/ido-gtk2" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104821720:37
knomecan we have a FFe for that please?20:38
cjwatsonuh, not really in an FFe frame of mind just now - been poking a transition for a while and need to go and do laundry20:38
cjwatsonoh, ScottK already approved it on condition that you find an AA20:39
cjwatsonsure, I can do the NEW review when you have it uploaded20:39
knomecjwatson, so, should i just tell people to upload? and should i prefix the bug with [FFe]?20:40
cjwatson(a) yes (b) I don't care20:40
knomeheh, ok :) thanks!20:40
micahgcjwatson: would the release team want an FFe for packages adding a symbols file or removing a static library to insure that the rdeps are not affected?20:45
cjwatsondunno20:46
cjwatsonI lose track of what different people want FFes for20:46
cjwatsonif it isn't documented on the wiki you'll have to ask the list20:46
Laneyif it's risky why bother at this point?20:47
Laneythe point of the FFe for me would be "have you made sure this isn't going to break anything?"20:47
Laneybut you can ask that just as well as I can20:47
micahgok20:47
cjwatsonright, I think I've DoSed the builders quite enough for today20:48
micahgnonsense, the queue is almost empty :)20:48
cjwatsonbut that should be the glew1.5 transition and the best part of the tiff transition done once everything finishes20:49
cjwatsondozen or two more to do for tiff20:49
micahgcjwatson: thanks for that BTW :)20:49
cjwatsongotta get past fourth place on upload-activity somehow20:49
* micahg is down to 12 :(, will hope to fix that next month20:50
Laneyhow is jbicha so high?!20:50
cjwatsoncourse I still have a +1 stint coming up20:50
* Laney resigns20:50
micahgme too hopefully :)20:50
cjwatsonLaney: gnomebuntu I guess20:50
micahghe's been syncing lots of stuff from Debian20:50
Laneysurprises me that requires so many uploads20:50
ajmitchLaney: I'm sure you could do another few hundred uploads to catch up20:51
LaneyI don't have so much imagination20:51
cjwatsonwish the pie charts had raw numbers available somewhere as well20:51
Laneyhttp://www.haskell.org/ghc/download_ghc_7_6_1 ?20:51
Laneysomewhere> udd :-)20:52
ajmitchyet another ghc transition?20:52
cjwatsonyou could fix all our build failures20:52
cjwatsonLaney: yeah but I can't be bothered20:52
micahgfrom my changes box I have jbicha at 684 and Laney at 50820:52
Laneywho doesn't love writing sql?20:52
micahgit has cjwatson at 512 now :)20:53
cjwatsonnot off the clock :P20:53
cjwatsonmicahg: rah20:53
ajmitchso Laney is falling behind20:53
micahgI need at least 60 uploads to catch pitti20:54
Laneybug closures is probably a more interesting measure20:55
cjwatsonmicahg: mm, my numbers from quantal-changes are close to that but have Riddell at 364, so obviously don't quite match the SQL20:55
* ajmitch won't even try & catch up20:55
micahgcjwatson: yeah, I saw that20:56
micahgajmitch: you can fix launchpad to allow backports for devel :)20:56
cjwatsonLaney: I'm sure Brian had a report along those lines somewhere20:56
Laneyyeah I remember one20:56
ajmitchmicahg: was doing that this weekend20:56
micahgawesome20:57
ajmitchI think cjwatson is probably the best person to ask about where to put tests about uploading to backports when the current series isn't frozen/supported20:57
ajmitchmicahg: had to do some yak shaving to get there, fixing up lpsetup, using lxc, etc :)20:58
cjwatsoneh, generally put LP tests in the test file named after the model code you're changing20:58
cjwatsonah, here we go20:59
cjwatsonhttp://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/bug-fixing/quantal-fixes-report.html20:59
cjwatsonI didn't think lpsetup was quite production yet20:59
cjwatsonI just use https://dev.launchpad.net/Running/Schroot since I already have a working schroot setup for other reasons (as I'd expect many Ubuntu developers do)21:00
jbichayeah I do much worse at actually fixing bugs ;)21:01
cjwatsonajmitch: lib/lp/archiveuploader/tests/test_uploadpolicy.py is probably where tests should go - grep for PROPOSED there for examples21:01
ajmitchcjwatson: thanks21:02
ajmitchlpsetup was announced so I thought I'd try it out, it just didn't quite work on quantal due to a small bug21:02
cjwatsonI'm pretty conservative about these things when what I'm trying to do is fix a bug rather than experiment with infrastructure21:03
cjwatsonI think LP suffers from having slightly too many gadgets and different lines of development here21:03
ajmitchI don't think you'd get any disagreement from LP developers on that one21:04
knomecjwatson, indicators (bug #1048217) uploaded22:24
ubot2Launchpad bug 1048217 in ubuntu "[FFe] Re-introduce indicator-sound-gtk2/ido-gtk2" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104821722:24

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