| chris4585 | wrst, yeah I usually do unetbootin, but it didn't work properly last time with my flash drive and arch or archbang | 00:12 |
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| chris4585 | so I did the dd command instead and it worked | 00:12 |
| cyberanger | dd if=/dev/wrongdevice of=/dev/randomsoundsthatmightbecursing | 01:08 |
| cyberanger | chris4585: ^ | 01:08 |
| cyberanger | I love dd, but it's sorta like explosives, a powerful too, capable of opening doors (literally) but also has similarities to walking into a minefield | 01:09 |
| chris4585 | cyberanger, I double check with gparted before I use dd | 01:10 |
| cyberanger | fdisk & mount for me | 01:11 |
| wrst | chris4585: i'm back on arch fulltime again, i wanted to like my ubuntu install but man its just no comparison to arch and gnome | 01:11 |
| chris4585 | wrst, lol that didn't take long | 01:12 |
| wrst | gnome-shell is just not good | 01:12 |
| wrst | in ubuntu | 01:12 |
| wrst | vanilla is mucho better | 01:12 |
| wrst | and there's doesn't have much tweaking i'm not for sure what the deal is but its sluggish and well just blah | 01:12 |
| cyberanger | wrst: no debian testing or sid? | 01:16 |
| wrst | cyberanger: i have tried and really i always had little issues with stability that i don't have with arch | 01:17 |
| wrst | i am running debian stable for a print server | 01:17 |
| * cyberanger wonders what little issues, none I've had | 01:27 | |
| wrst | broken packages espeically with gnome | 01:28 |
| cyberanger | ah, openbox, that's why | 01:28 |
| cyberanger | plenty of GTK & Qt Regretablly, but minimal | 01:29 |
| cyberanger | minimal use, zero issues | 01:31 |
| cyberanger | time for work, again | 02:06 |
| chris4585 | sorry got distracted | 03:33 |
| chris4585 | yeah I think arch with gnome or anything else really is way more attractive... like somehow the combination is better | 03:33 |
| chris4585 | wrst, I've heard horror stories about using debian as a desktop and how unstable it can be, which blows my mind, specifically with compiz | 03:35 |
| netritious | I haven't had any probs with debian and gnome...running that combo for almost a year now. | 06:58 |
| wrst | netritious: running stable? i mean debian stable can't be beat | 11:03 |
| netritious | wrst: yes, gnome2 and squeeze is fine. I don't use any plugins though (flash, java, etc.) so that may have something to do with it | 17:09 |
| wrst | netritious: i'm using gnome-shell | 18:43 |
| wrst | and with 3.0 it was spotty then going from 3.0 to 3.2 lots of brokenness and well its a testing distro so thats not knock on it in the least | 18:44 |
| netritious | wrst: I guess I'm old school...I still use gnome2 (gnome-panel on ubuntu) | 20:14 |
| wrst | nah that's still gnome 3 just a differnt "shell" :) | 20:14 |
| wrst | so you are new school | 20:15 |
| wrst | or i think that's how that works? | 20:16 |
| netritious | Hm, well I tried gnome-shell and it was terrible on the older hardware. | 20:16 |
| wrst | oh yeah netritious its not for old hardware | 20:16 |
| netritious | gnome-panel was installed simply because it was an upgrade from 10.04. | 20:16 |
| wrst | agree 100% | 20:16 |
| wrst | the gnome fallback mode is similar to that and you can make gnome shell act like a polished up version of gnome 2 | 20:16 |
| netritious | but that's still gnome3? gnome-panel on ubuntu 12.04? | 20:17 |
| netritious | oic | 20:17 |
| wrst | i think so i mean unity for all purposes is gnome 3 with a different shell | 20:17 |
| wrst | i'm easily confused so could likely be wrong :) | 20:17 |
| netritious | well it looks/works great on an old P4 2.4GHz, 1GB DDR, 30GB ATA33 HDD | 20:17 |
| netritious | gnome-panel I mean | 20:18 |
| netritious | I turned off /all/ of the effects | 20:18 |
| wrst | yeah i think it is because if i remember reading somewhere about using it for those that don't like unity or gnome-shell | 20:18 |
| wrst | if it were gnome 2 you would have a mix of gtk2 and3 but i think that works too | 20:19 |
| netritious | it has a PCI nvidia MX4000 (newer PCI card) and using nouveau drivers (nothing restricted available) | 20:19 |
| wrst | how does nouvaeu work for it? | 20:19 |
| netritious | fine | 20:19 |
| netritious | that wasn't always the case just a couple of years ago | 20:20 |
| wrst | i haven't used them in a while well don't really have anything to use them on i might try on my dekstop sometime just to see how they are working now | 20:20 |
| netritious | now on my debian wheezy it is gnome2 still, at least I'm pretty sure it is (looks like it lol) | 20:21 |
| wrst | netritious: here is what i had read: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/03/gnome-classic-in-ubuntu-12-04-its-like-nothing-ever-changed | 20:21 |
| wrst | i know gnome2 isn't being maintained now | 20:21 |
| wrst | other than mate | 20:21 |
| netritious | What about cinamon? Is that a gnome2 fork? | 20:23 |
| wrst | cinamon is the linux mint gnome3 forkish thing | 20:24 |
| wrst | which is really stupid IMO you coudl easily do what they did with extensions to gnome-shell and not forked but hey whatever makes them happy but i really don't like linux mint so i'm just bitter | 20:25 |
| wrst | this looks handy: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/grub-customizer-30-released.html | 20:26 |
| netritious | at least you're honest with yourself about it wrst :) | 20:26 |
| wrst | well netritious its pretty obvious :) | 20:27 |
| wrst | no need denying it | 20:27 |
| chris4585 | I do kind of like linux mint, but mostly just to use it as a base | 22:02 |
| chris4585 | it does everything ubuntu does but already has the things I actually want installed | 22:03 |
| chris4585 | the forking is a little dumb but whatever | 22:03 |
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