[00:56] <Hodgestar> Cinnamon is looking pretty awesome. Also *much* faster than Unity on my hardware.
[07:04] <Guest3980> talk of UBUNTU ? am in RSA whatsApp
[10:25] <Kilos> afternoon guys
[10:28] <superfly> hi Kilos
[10:29] <Kilos> hows the swarm this fine sunday superfly 
[10:29] <Kilos> are is that bees only
[10:29] <superfly> fine Sunday? it's cold and wet!
[10:29] <superfly> we're fine
[10:29] <Kilos> aw we got some lekker sun
[10:30] <superfly> just about to head out to some friends for lunch
[10:30] <Kilos> enjoy
[10:30] <Kilos> go safe
[12:30] <smile> hi :)
[13:59] <Squirm> meh
[14:06] <Cantide> hem
[14:09] <Squirm> went to a lan, had 2 hours sleep Friday night, ended up getting home at 1 this morning, fell asleep soon after
[14:09] <Squirm> I was pretty surprised when I woke up at 3pm
[14:09] <Cantide> lol
[14:09] <Cantide> sounds like a good lan
[16:38] <Kilos> evening guys
[16:46] <smile> Kilos: :D
[16:46] <Kilos> hi smile
[16:46] <smile> "Tell me baby, what did I do wrong" :p from a song :)
[16:46] <Kilos> what you know about mate
[16:47] <smile> Kilos: it's a gnome 2 fork :p
[16:47] <smile> and stable
[16:47] <Kilos> lol i installed it but cant find mobile broadband
[16:47] <smile> lol :p 
[16:47] <smile> in your tray?
[16:48] <Kilos> only for wired and wireless no 3g 
[16:49] <smile> oh that sucks :p maybe gnome 2 has no 3g support?
[16:50] <Kilos> the guy on mate says it should show in network connections
[16:54] <smile> o.O
[16:55] <smile> Kilos: ask him where? :)
[16:55] <Kilos> #mate
[17:02] <Kilos> sposed to be in preferences-network connections
[17:03] <smile> :s
[17:04] <smile> I don't know, I admit :|
[17:04] <smile> http://www.thebuzzmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/funny-mouse-picture-computer-mouse.jpg :)
[17:04] <Kilos> maybe it part of the prob that 12.04 has been giving me with mobile broadband from the beginning
[17:05] <Squirm> Kilos: it should appear like it should in Gnome
[17:05] <Kilos> thought so Squirm  but i see nothing at all mentioning mobile broadband
[17:07] <Squirm> does your pc pick it up?
[17:07] <Kilos> when here on unity yes but when going to mate no
[17:07] <Squirm> on the cli, type lsusb
[17:08] <Kilos> will try when im back on mate
[17:08] <Squirm> ok
[17:08] <Squirm> and also have a look in dmesg
[17:08] <Kilos> if its same as gnome2 then it must be there
[17:08] <Kilos> bad install or something
[17:15] <tumbleweed> do you have usb-modeswitch installed? most 3g modems need it
[17:17] <Kilos> yip tumbleweed 
[17:17] <Kilos> i remembered that prob from 9.10 days
[17:18] <tumbleweed> nm should do the rest
[17:18] <Kilos> the modem works here on 12.04 but wont connect automatically 
[17:19] <Kilos> ya it used to before but not with 12.04
[17:19] <Kilos> now i manually start it everytime
[17:19] <Kilos> that enable broadband needs to be manually done every time
[17:22] <tumbleweed> known upstream nm bug: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=659228
[17:22] <Kilos> i go see ty
[17:25] <Kilos> oh they havent fixed it yet
[17:26] <Kilos> hi charlvn 
[17:27] <Kilos> tumbleweed, if i go to mate is that being a traitor to ubuntu?
[17:27] <tumbleweed> heh
[17:28] <tumbleweed> it's being as traitorous to ubuntu, as using ubuntu is to debian
[17:28] <tumbleweed> although, ubuntu contributes back to debian. AFAIK, mint doesn't
[17:28] <Kilos> oh so its fine then
[17:28] <Kilos> i have mate installed on 12.04
[17:29] <Kilos> not mint
[17:29] <tumbleweed> mate isn't in ubuntu
[17:29] <Kilos> lol its even in my synaptic now
[17:29] <tumbleweed> from a PPA?
[17:29] <Kilos> ya
[17:30] <tumbleweed> I don't have high hopes for the future of MATE. it seems a bit of a dead-end. But it seems to be fairly popular atm
[17:31] <Kilos> its fast here
[17:31] <Kilos> with same panels as maverick
[17:33] <magespawn> evening all
[17:33] <Kilos> hi magespawn 
[17:34] <Kilos> found it here tumbleweed  http://is.gd/zxSUK7
[17:34] <Kilos> all good magespawn ?
[17:35] <magespawn> yup and you Kilos?
[17:35] <Kilos> yup ty. trying to get mate going on 12.04
[17:35] <magespawn> why?
[17:36] <magespawn> what is mate? like unity or gnome?
[17:36] <Kilos> looks good and its fast but just gotta find why nm does show mobile broadband
[17:36] <Kilos> gnome2 fork
[17:36] <Kilos> they still developing it further i see
[17:37] <Kilos> read a bit by #mate
[17:38] <Kilos> unity is slow using the dash all the time and switching desktops is a pain
[17:38] <Kilos> looks just like maverick with a different colour
[17:39] <Kilos> i see they can even use it on fedora
[17:39] <magespawn> i see just read the wiki
[17:59] <magespawn> gotta love xkcd http://xkcd.com/851/
[18:31] <smile> bye :p
[19:25] <Kilos> night guys. sleep tight
[20:26] <magespawn> good night all
[21:58] <superfly> Maaz: tell kbmonkey Nice one on the Internet License
[21:58] <Maaz> superfly: Righto, I'll tell kbmonkey on freenode
[22:02] <Squirm> hmm, fp
[22:52] <Squirm> lo Trixar_za 
[22:53] <Trixar_za> lo Squirm
[22:54] <Trixar_za> Shouldn't you be sleeping?
[23:01] <Squirm> yep
[23:01] <Squirm> but having woken up at 3
[23:01] <Squirm> I'm not tired
[23:02] <Trixar_za> Know the feeling