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dr_willisUbuntu Stickers   http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=71800:00
trismlunaphyte: but it is in the package gnome-themes-standard if you ever were looking for it00:00
MerisOerheks, stickers might look cool, but they tend to come off and leave a nasty sticky residue.00:00
Jordan_UTroy^: That works as a test too :)00:00
lunaphyteah, i see.  you meant if i wanted to use the adwaita theme.00:00
trismindeed00:00
dr_willisMeris:  i got some for my keyboard keys - they havent came off yet. :) so it depends on how well they are made.00:00
lunaphytetrism: understood.  i wonder how it got switched form ambiance to adwaita00:01
lunaphyte*from00:01
Troy^Jordan_U: like on average the read speeds are 16MB/s from the external which is more acceptable then 1.2M/s00:01
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scanmani am using ssh to use vlc. when i export=DISPLAY=:0 the video is on my laptop, not the tv connected to it. is there a command to list displays so i can export to the tv :#?    ?? thx.00:02
Merisdr_willis, true. Well, I don't care about pictures on keys. I use a Mac Keyboard because of the fantastic keys, not for the looks.00:02
dr_willisscanman:  using twinview? or some other way to get a desktop across both monitors?00:03
Merisdr_willis, those stickers look great on a convention to show that there are alternatives to Windows, but for the rest?..Hmm00:03
13WABIZXHHi guys I get a BUG: Bad page state in process in the kernel occasionally, but it doesn't actually do anything like crash or quit a program.  Is this error bad?00:06
scanmandr_willis: right now they are individual, i have to drag screens across, trying to use cli only. long reply, yes twinview00:07
pinebeihi. does anyone know how to move icons around on panel --specifically the clock.00:09
jesse123man pages are giving me IO errors. time to reboot liveCD?00:11
Merisjesse123, if you are using a LiveCD, not all manpages you are trying to use may actually be installed.00:11
dr_willisscanman:  with twinview i Think you can use a  number like display=:0.1      but i cant rember where i even learned abut that.00:12
dr_willisscanman:  or you could use a tool like devilspie or some of the ccsm setting/plugins to force specific apps to specific window/positions00:12
scanmandr_willis: lemme try that.1 business00:13
scanmandr_willis: ran the sam vlc command as always, output is correct. not sure why but will enjoy until it fails. thx for the info tho, i will look into next time.00:17
xraphael:)00:20
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kkraussHey guys, I am running 12.04 with firefox 15.   This might be outside the realm of the channel,and if so I apologize in advance.  My question is: I have installed two different pdf addons into firefox yet every time I go to view a pdf online, it says missing plugin and no suitable plugin found?00:25
alpreyou need more info00:27
kkrausslike?00:27
alprewhat addons00:27
kkrausspdf viewer....00:28
kkrausspdf download....00:28
alprekkrauss: I just installed epdfview, and firefox opens pdfs in epdfview. Isn't that possible for you?00:28
alpreno addons00:29
alpreno acrobat either though00:29
kkraussim going to try google docs viewer and see if that works00:29
crypticmofohi all im running ubuntu in virtualbox .. i don't like the new look as the icons are on teh left side .. looks like a cruch00:30
crypticmofohow do i get rid of them ?00:30
kkraussso that didn't work either00:30
kkraussapparently I am not meant to view this pdf doc00:30
Smackbook1your pdf might be corrupted00:31
Smackbook1ive never had a problem with any pdf file00:31
Smackbook1using any method00:31
kkraussive tried it on a couple of pdfs00:31
Smackbook1oh hmm00:32
Smackbook1but if google docs cant open it, it cant be ubuntus fault00:32
beachbum_Bobkkrauss   just use your default pdf reader that comes with 12.0400:32
crypticmofohi all im running ubuntu in virtualbox .. i don't like the new look as the icons are on teh left side .. looks like a cruch00:32
crypticmofo?00:32
wilee-nileecrypticmofo, So what do you want us to do?00:32
kkraussbasically, I am trying to look at lecture slides from last weeks classes.  It is web based through a craphole interactive web program called Blackboard.00:33
beachbum_Boboh00:33
Smackbook1crypticmofo: thats the new UI crap since last year, you need to choose google classic00:33
jrib"google" classic -_-00:33
Smackbook1i mean ubuntu classic00:33
kkrausson any of my other systems, including my ubuntu and debian systems on campus, whenever I click on the link to the pdf it opens right up.  On my home ubuntu system it says missing plugin00:33
Smackbook1lol00:33
wilee-nileekkrauss, Blackboard is problematic I have had to use it.00:33
Smackbook1gnome classic!00:33
Troy^hmm i'm trying to make a ext4 on my extrnal drive and it is giving me /dev/sdd is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!00:34
kkrausswilee-nilee, blackboard is crap and it amazes me so many uni's use it, however I doubt that is the issue in this case.00:34
wilee-nileeTroy^, Is it unmounted?00:34
jribkkrauss: well is it flash or java?  Install the relevant plug-in00:34
Troy^wilee-nilee: trying to figure out how to unmount it lol00:34
crypticmofoSmackbook1 hwo do i do this ?00:34
wilee-nileeTroy^, Try using gparted, it is a right click.00:34
kkraussahh00:34
Troy^wilee-nilee: this is all headless00:35
wilee-nileeah00:35
kkraussbeing as this is a java class00:35
kkraussI am assuming it is java00:35
Smackbook1crypticmofo: i dont know the steps off the top of my head,  basically you need to install some packages, and then restart and at the login screen when you boot up there is an option to choose your window manager00:35
kkraussso its not a pdf reader I need but a java console?00:35
Smackbook1Smackbook1: youll have to google the specific details00:36
Smackbook1but thats the process00:36
Smackbook1or format and install xubuntu, which has the same look as gnome 200:37
wilee-nileekkrauss, If these are multiple pdf's I had to go to the larger menu in the way it was set up at my uni to open ech one, if in a list the first would open but not the next for some reason, just suggeting.00:37
kkraussim not sure what is going on with this thing00:37
kkraussgoogle docs says it doesnt recognize the file type and doesn't open it properly either00:37
kkraussmaybe the teacher did someth ign wrong, Ill ask him next sweek00:37
jribkkrauss: you said it was web-based00:38
Smackbook1kkrauss: that definatly sounds like the best plan ;)00:38
kkraussyes, I did say it was web based00:38
kkrausseverytime I click on it it says msising plugin then when I try to find the right one firefox it cannot find one00:39
n1ckn4me09876543New feature in Ubuntu is the ability to have a "full disk encryption" not just home directory anymore.  My question is, if I encrypt the whole drive, will I still be able to do multi-boot ? like 2-3 O.S. with grub boot loader?00:39
AreckxHOW COME my terminal says "Got Ice?" on the bottom right????00:40
AreckxWHAT THE *&(YE&(YF IS THIS!?~!?~?00:40
kkraussI think i'm moving onto japanese!00:40
Troy^argg00:40
AreckxAM I HACKED~!?!~?~?00:40
Troy^not letting me create the ext4 on my ext00:40
AreckxWHAT IS THIS ICE BULL CRAP00:41
AreckxOH nvm00:41
Areckxit's my desktop background lmao00:41
MerisAreckx, let's keep this a family friendly channel, now shall we?00:41
Troy^i can't seem to get my external usb drive unmounted in order to format00:42
dr_willisTroy^:  make sure all apps using it are closed.   perhaps even logout?00:43
crypticmofohi all00:43
Troy^dr_willis: just killed them all00:43
dr_willisTroy^:  make sure no terminals are cd'd into the mount point00:43
n1ckn4me09876543so does anybody know? about my question with  full HDD encryption00:43
Troy^fizz@server:/$ sudo umount -l /dev/sdd00:43
Troy^umount: /dev/sdd: not mounted00:43
dr_willisn1ckn4me09876543:  i think you need to have grub's /boot/ on a unencrypted partition. I dont find encryption that needed.. unless its on a laptop you may loose.00:44
Troy^sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdd /dev/sdd is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!00:44
dr_willisTroy^:  sure its not sdd1 ?00:44
MerisTroy^, try sudo lsof | /dev/sdd00:44
MerisTroy^, try sudo lsof | grep '/dev/sdd '00:45
MerisSorry about that omission00:45
Troy^fizz@server:/$ sudo lsof | /dev/sdd00:45
Troy^-bash: /dev/sdd: Permission denied00:45
MerisTroy^,  I'm not surprised :-), try my second line...00:45
Troy^Meris: mount.ntf  1340       root    3u      BLK       8,49 0x2ba9f2fe000       9314 /dev/sdd100:46
dr_willissdd1 is mount4ed.. not see?00:46
dr_willissdd.00:46
Troy^it wont let me unmount sdd100:46
dr_willisid just reboot and set it back to sane defaults... who know what all you have done to the system ;)00:47
Areckxhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1193765/00:47
Areckxhow do I fix this??00:47
Troy^fizz@server:/$ sudo umount /dev/sdd1 umount: /dev/sdd1: not mounted00:47
dr_willisAreckx:  you could at least give a summary of it.00:47
MerisTroy^, nice, now try the lsof line again: Troy^, try sudo lsof | grep '/dev/sdd '00:47
dr_willisAreckx:  just pasteing a url - tends to not get a lot of people to look at it just to see if they even know IF they can help00:47
Areckxdr_willis::  it is a script which converts a youtube video using youtube-dl and converts a selection to a gif00:48
Troy^Areckx: that is more for #bash00:48
AreckxTREllis::  they aren't helping...00:48
Areckxittroy00:48
MerisTroy^, Does it still return any processes using /dev/sdd?00:48
AreckxTroy^::00:48
Areckxit is a problem with mplayer00:48
Areckx#mplayer is not helping at all00:48
Areckxand this is REALLY piissing me off00:48
Troy^Meris: samething mount.ntf  1340       root    3u      BLK       8,49 0x2ba9f2fe000       9314 /dev/sdd100:48
crypticmofoanyone running virtualbox and ubuntu in it ?00:48
AreckxSO I am asking here too00:49
i7ccrypticmofo: i did some time, what's the problem00:49
MerisTroy^, please pastebin the output of sudo mount00:49
Areckxhere is the script :: http://pastebin.com/A9fgC5Rr00:49
Areckxcan anyone try to see if they're getting the same errors?00:50
AreckxI am using Ubuntu 10.0400:50
Troy^Meris: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193771/00:50
cowsquadhey guys. Is there any way to add like an application menu on ubuntu 12.04 unity?00:50
Troy^Meris: /dev/sdd is an external i am unaware if you saw when i explained that as well it is mounted with usbmount00:50
dr_williscowsquad:  theres several indicator-applets and i recall an app to put a classic gnome2 type menu at the top of the UNITY left side panel00:51
alpreTroy^: try the manual of usbmount, I think there is locking mentioned there00:51
alpreTroy^: if not usbmount, then pmount00:51
dr_williscowsquad:  theres a list of indicator-applets at askubuntu.com  and i recall the otehr  i found by searching for 'classic gnome menu unity' at webupd8 or omgubuntu, or askubuntu.com00:52
WeThePeoplehi00:52
cowsquaddr_willis thank you00:52
dr_willishttp://www.howtogeek.com/105997/how-to-install-the-classic-gnome-menu-in-unity-in-ubuntu-11.10/00:52
dr_williscowsquad:  theres like 5 differnt tools/ways00:52
dr_willis!find classicmenu-indicator00:53
ubottuPackage/file classicmenu-indicator does not exist in precise00:53
Troy^alpre: :S00:53
dr_willisthats the sort of thing they should have put in by default just to save grief and learning of unity ;)00:53
Troy^alpre: i don't see how pmount would help00:53
dr_williscowsquad:  i always have to rember to sort by votes at askubuntu.com   http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available00:54
cowsquaddr_willis I am trying your link right now.00:55
dr_williscowsquad:  i always check that listing to see what new neat things come out. ;)00:55
cowsquaddr_willis are you on ubuntu 12.0400:56
Psi-JackEverytime I do something with Thunderbird, or receive/send IM's with Pidgin, I keep getting this ANNOYING window prompting: Authentication is required to change user data; An application is attempting to perform an action that requires privileges. Authentication as one of the users below is required to perform this action. (Selections are, my name, and Admin User, which is my UID=1000 user)00:56
Psi-JackReally starting to get frustrating.00:57
MerisTroy^, Sorry, you might try *re*mounting the /dev/sdd1 in a normal mode, that *might* disengage the lock00:58
Troy^Meris: how do i do that?00:58
emxi want to automount a usb stick in the file browser. when i click on the icon i get the message that i am not authorised. the user is in the group disk. what is missing?00:59
Psi-Jackemx: You need to be in the plugdev group00:59
dr_willis!info cardapio00:59
ubottuPackage cardapio does not exist in precise00:59
emxPsi-Jack, the user is also in the plugdev group01:00
dr_williscowsquad:  on 12.10 right now..  cardapio is an app that lets you have a 'menu' on a button on the left side panel..01:00
dr_willishttp://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/very-nice-gnome-menu-in-ubunty-oneiric-11-10-unity-panel/01:00
MerisTroy^,  mount -o remount [the desired options] . Just be sure that you use the type ntfs-3g as mount-type01:00
F4810ola alguem fala portugues?01:01
cowsquaddr_willis how did you upgraded to quantun quetzal?01:01
Meris!pt | F481001:01
ubottuF4810: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.01:01
aaron_npHi is this the right place to ask a noob question?01:01
dr_williscowsquad:  i dident.. i always do clean installs.01:02
cowsquadi follow instructions on ubuntuforums, but i did not get the upgrade option on Update Manager01:02
dr_willishttps://launchpad.net/cardapio   is a tool for a gnome-like menu in the left side panel01:02
wilee-nileecowsquad, you know its in develoment still?01:02
Troy^Meris: sudo mount -o remount ntfs-3g /dev/sdd101:02
cowsquaddr_willis oh, so you installed it clean. Oh yeah is in beta 1. How is it working for you01:03
MerisTroy^, not complete, the mount point is missing.01:03
Troy^ok it took it01:03
Troy^but hasn't changed anything01:03
dr_williscowsquad:  no real issues.  has good days and bad. ;)01:04
wilee-nileecowsquad, you probably need to go to softwrae sorces and set it as any release, to see the 12.10.01:04
wilee-nileesoftware sources*01:04
MerisTroy^,  that is logical, because the mount point is still the same...01:04
nate__curious why does startx -- :1,2,3,...etc work at the terminal ctrl+alt+f1 but not in the virtual terminals under gnome . Is there away to startx in those terminals ?01:04
MerisTroy^, does the mounted /dev/sdd1 show up on sudo mount ?01:05
nate__ anybody know?01:05
cowsquadwilee-nilee, I had, but i keep checking and it wont show me the upgrade. lAME01:05
Troy^Meris: nope01:05
aaron_npwhat is a good channel for noob questions?01:05
dr_willisnate__:  i seem to recall starting them from a X session befor.. but been years since ive even needed to have several X sessions going01:05
dr_willis!info xnest01:06
ubottuxnest (source: xorg-server): Nested X server. In component main, is optional. Version 2:1.11.4-0ubuntu10.7 (precise), package size 766 kB, installed size 1910 kB01:06
wilee-nileeaaron_np, You are in the right place if it is Ubuntu.01:06
Merisaaron_np, no objections against "noob" questions, as long as you searched a bit around before coming to this channel for help. Just ask your question01:06
aaron_npwilee-nilee: ok thnks01:06
dr_willisnate__:  i seem to recall some way to start a new X session  that would run the login manager.. had to start it as root some how.. (been years since i did it)01:06
MerisTroy^, sorry, tried everything, I'm out of options. Very strange that the drive doesn't show up in the mount list.01:07
nate__how did you do this becuase i am curious why startx -- :1 doesn't01:07
WeThePeoplewould 12.04 work in VM01:07
nate__in a virtual terminal01:07
dr_willisnate__:  i dont recall.. its been at least 2+ years since i last did it.01:07
Merisnate__, startx can only be called with a parameter that assigns a console as new X-session.01:08
dr_willisX: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.01:08
Merisnate__, to be exact, it is the display parameter01:08
dr_willisstartx is a script that does a lot of things then launches the X server. ;)01:08
nate__i think i must be a file lock or something that is not in the console01:08
wilee-nileeWeThePeople, Should.01:09
dr_willisYou cant even do a 'startx --help' from a xterm it seems. ;)01:09
dr_willisI seem to recall ages ago GDM or Gnome or some menus had a item to spawn a new X session.01:10
aaron_npOk noob Q: My system currently has ubuntu 12.04 64bits and I want to install ubuntu on a new hd but the machine doesn't have cd/dvd and wont boot into usb drive for some reason, is there a way I can install ubuntu from on a separete hdd from ubuntu?01:10
aaron_npany help is appreciated01:10
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dr_willisaaron_np:  you can clone the current install to a 2nd hard drive  and move the HD over.. or set up a netboot feature to install over the network.01:10
nate__sorry my mistake it works with :2 but not :1 where it works in console werid but ok01:10
Merisnate__, that is not the problem. The problem is that an  x-terminal already has the DISPLAY variable defined. you can export the new DISPLAY variable and *then* call startx, that should work, just keep in mind that startx without parameters only starts bare X-windows.01:10
gabrielukhi, how can change the browser associated with html files?01:10
wilee-nileeaaron_np, Are you familiar with the boot from outside the bios for the usb, if it booots a usb?01:10
nate__no , it works when I sudo startx -- :201:11
dr_willisnate__:  i wonder if theres not some X server/lock crashed and keeping :1  occupied.01:11
aaron_npdr_willis: I cant clone as I have a smaller hdd and I also want to start from scratch01:11
dr_willissince the initial desktop is :001:11
dr_willisaaron_np:  netboot/netinstalls are handy01:12
dr_willisnight all.01:12
Merisnate__, nice, what console did it get assigned to? Console 8 ?01:12
nate__yes01:12
nate__801:12
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Merisnate__, I'm curious, why do you need a a second X-session?01:13
aaron_npwilee-nilee: for some reason it wont letme boot from usb, I have tried all usb boot options but no luck01:13
Troy^Meris: anything to do with usbmount?01:13
wilee-nileeaaron_np, Does all options include the one I mention?01:14
MerisTroy^, I'm not really familiar with usbmount, so I'm not sure how I can help you. Sorry, about that.01:14
aaron_npI've never tried the net boot/net install01:14
nate__makes it easier in some cases to have a fresh desktop, gives you the illusion of to users. Plus some times it is better then multiple workstations ... as well as you can connect remotely to it01:14
gabrielukis it good to install 'ubuntu tweak'?01:14
gabrielukis this the correct ppa? ppa:ubuntu-tweak-testing/ppa01:15
wilee-nileegabrieluk, That is the test use the stable.01:15
wilee-nileehttps://launchpad.net/~tualatrix/+archive/ppa01:16
aaron_npwilee-nilee, I get a loot of boot uptions on the bios (F12 at boot for my computer) but none seems to accept the usb tumbdrive01:16
wilee-nileeaaron_np, It may just be a bad load or loader app that is in your way or a bad ISO, have you done a md5sum check01:17
aaron_npwilee-nilee, dr_willis, so no options to install from an existing ubuntu hdd then?01:18
gabrieluk<wilee-nilee>, thanks01:18
wilee-nileeaaron_np, the posibilty is there, but I doubt that is really needed, besides isn't the HD a usb?01:18
Merisnate__, I wonder, could you run two X on two separate users that way? I'd like to start another session in English next to my default Dutch one. Would that be possible?01:18
aaron_npwilee-nilee, I thought about it but then i booted my lapttop with it and boots poerfectly01:19
Troy^Meris: usbmount be also cause of bottleneck i mean usb drives can be handed mounted and entered into fstab right? therefore if i just remove usbmount?01:19
aaron_npwilee-nilee, the hdd is a sata drive01:20
wilee-nileeaaron_np, You mean you booted your laptop with it plugged in or the HD has a OS that it will boot with, if so what is the OS?01:20
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MerisTroy^, as said before, I'm not familar with usbmount. I am an eager learner however and I'd love to see how you can get out of this mess. In fact I don't even have usbmount installed on my system01:21
WeThePeopleafter support for 10.04 has ended for desktop will it be worth to keep around01:21
WeThePeopleto keep using what are the cons01:21
Troy^Meris: correct it is third party install.. I just removed and did a reboot we will see when it comes back up01:21
cowsquadhow do I remove ppa from ubuntu?01:22
WeThePeoplecowsquad, use synaptic01:22
MerisTroy^, Good luck in your endeavours.01:22
cowsquadWethePeople I am, but I cant figure out01:22
aaron_npwilee-nilee, my laptop has dual boot win7/ubuntu but What I mentiuoned is that itried to boot using the same usb drive and boots just fine, the problem is on my desktop who refuses to boot from the usb thus the need to use my existing ubuntu dririve to install on the other hdd01:23
wilee-nileecowsquad, IF you want all of it removed read carefully. http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/01:23
theixleDoes anyone know how to fix asus 1215N atheros nic problems? I've tried installing compat-wireless already.01:23
cowsquadthanks wilee-nilee01:23
Troy^Meris: there working now it is formating01:24
wilee-nileeaaron_np, Honestly I think your usb will work, but you do not and want to try a even harder may boot idea, I can't really help there sorry.01:24
aaron_npwilee-nilee, I guess I'll need to rtfm for the netboot01:25
Guest22959 I am trying to install R, it is in tarball form I used the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo unsuccessfully. I run into errors when I try to create a common directory01:25
WeThePeopletheixle, see #ubuntu-server01:25
Troy^Meris: success lol01:26
wilee-nileeGuest22959, Do not ask on multiple channels.01:26
MerisTroy^, nice... :-) It was an interesting analysis though.01:26
Noddare there any extensions that give more control, when copying files in nautilus? like pausing certain files in a queue?01:26
theixlewethepeople: Server huh? I'm running a desktop (netbook) machine fwiw.01:26
TJ-aaron_np: There's a way - unusual - but uses standard installer. On Windows create a virtual machine and map the boot drive into it, then boot the VM from an Ubuntu LiveCD ISO image (attached to the VM's CD-ROM device). If you use Windows Disk Management to first shrink the Windows partitions to leave around 10GB free space on the boot drive, you can install into that using Ubuntu without Ubuntu needing to touch the Windows partitions that are currently in use.01:26
WeThePeopleahh01:26
jribGuest22959: R is in the repositories.  Use APT01:26
MerisGuest22959, please change your nick to something meaningful, it is bothersome for the autocompletion, if someone wants to chat with you.01:27
aaron_npwilee-nilee, I thought so too however it is not :/01:27
Troy^Meris: now i can't seem to get the UUID of the drive and add it to my fstab01:28
Guest22959jrib: could you elaborate on your response01:28
trter10hey guys if i increase my install size with wubi to 30 gbs how much would i have to use (not used by OS)?01:28
jribGuest22959: are you familiar with how to install software in ubuntu using Software Manager?01:29
Guest22959Jrib: No I am not, but if you could point me to a guide I would appreciate it greatly01:29
Troy^fdisk -l Disk Disk identifier: 0x00000000 /dev/sdd doesn't contain a valid partition table01:29
jrib!software | Guest2295901:30
ubottuGuest22959: A general introduction to the ways software can be installed, removed and managed in Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoftwareManagement - See also !Packages, !Equivalents01:30
TJ-aaron_np: For your USB not-found-by-BIOS issue, there's a couple of things you might check (if you haven't already). 1. BIOS enabling USB devices (usually in the chipset and related settings areas), and 2. Some ports aren't (often the front ports) aren't activated by the BIOS on some motherboards... have you tried the USB in the rear motherboard USB ports when booting?01:30
MerisTroy^, because it's an USB-drive, you cannot detect the drive straight away, you'll need to identify the type of (S)ATA chipset on your USB drive in order to get to the details. You can usually find the type from the lsusb output.01:30
jribGuest22959: you probably want the r-base or r-recommended packages01:30
Troy^Meris the does not have a valid partition table scares me01:31
adamjm\wc01:31
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Guest22959Jrib and ubottu thank you so much I really appreciate it01:31
gabrielukI have a sony vaio laptop vgn-ns30e and lucid 10.04 desktop installed. i'm having a hard time with alsa audio. it was blowing my ears, very bad quality sound. i found the solution of creating a .asoundrc file and inserting defaults.pcm.rate_converter "samplerate_best" pcm.!default {type plug slave.pcm {type dmixipc_key 1024slave {pcm "hw:0,0"rate 48000}}}. the sound is a BIT better, not a lot, but now alsa volume controls doesn't work, and so01:31
gabrielukme apps(google chrome) don't play sound from youtube. any better solution?]01:31
DG_guys! oh noez!01:32
whallzhi, i need help, i dist-upgraded to 12.04.1, and now i have continuous crashes, for eg, i did a 'tilda & exit' in a gnome terminal and everything froze01:33
whallzi installed gnome301:33
MerisTroy^, in that case the usbmount program might have mucked about in the partition table. First of all, stay calm and try to get any data you *can* get on the present partitioning. Don't rush itl, especially not if the other partitions contain important data01:33
whallzalso, i'd like to completely remove compiz, how do i do that?01:33
Troy^Meris: everything on the drive has been backed up01:35
Meriswhallz, you can remove Compiz with sudo apt-get remove Compiz, but a lot of things depend on Compiz. Unity3D for instance...01:35
Meriswhallz, you can remove Compiz with sudo apt-get remove compiz, but a lot of things depend on Compiz. Unity3D for instance...01:35
gabrielukany ideas on my issue with sound?01:35
Meriswhallz, ^Slight typo there, sorry01:35
whallzMeris: ty01:36
TJ-gabrieluk: The only thing I can find related is this, if you read down it talks about losing all ALSA in/out ... and a comment says the issue was fixed using the same method on the same model as you have. http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/22101:36
shadedpixelAre there any good plug n' play USB wifi adapters that work well with ubuntu (or just linux in general) and without ndiswrapper?01:36
whallzany ideas on why the crashes? did the kernel upgrade broke something??01:36
xangua!hardware | shadedpixel01:36
ubottushadedpixel: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection01:36
MerisTroy^, in that case you can make a new partition table in for example gparted, or just parted (for the console version)01:37
shadedpixelubottu, ive already looked there. There is a big list but Id like to know what works best from a consumer perspective01:37
MerisTroy^, (g)parted should take care of the hassles of unmounting your USB drive and give you an easy access to it so you can repartition it.01:38
shadedpixelAre there any good plug n' play USB wifi adapters that work well with ubuntu (or just linux in general) and without ndiswrapper?01:38
Merisshadepixel. Umm, ubottu is a bot, not a person ;-) It *is* a very helpful and advanced bot, but still a bot...01:39
shadedpixelMeris, i know that :D01:39
Merisshadedpixel, wel, just in case  >Grin<01:40
gabrielukTJ-, should i still use .asoundrc? that issue was with the mic, i don't have issues with, i have issues with a horrible sound quality. the thing about alsa not having controls working is minor, the worst is the quality01:40
Merisshadedpixel, wel => well01:40
TJ-Meris: Troy^  usbmount won't damage anything; it is an auto-mounter utilising udev for servers and non-Gnome systems. I use it on a server.01:40
MerisTJ-, another thing learned, thanks :-)01:41
MerisTJ-, Troy^ had quite some trouble getting it to umount a drive. Maybe you have some more advice for him/ her.01:42
zymasterHey does anyone know an alternative to iDisplay for Linux? I want to use my hp touchpad running cyanogenmod ice cream sandwich as a second monitor for my ubuntu laptop.01:42
xanguashadedpixel: someone mentioned this page some weeks ago https://www.thinkpenguin.com/01:42
TJ-GabrieleV: I was looking at the 2nd part of that article, where it talks about sound being lost totally and points to some packages that can help fix issues. That article is old so the referenced PPA and packages may no longer be available, but as you're still on 10.04 that's probably the only place to find fixed drivers. It's worth testing your PC with a 12.04 LiveCD see if the sound works for the current LTS01:42
icerootzymaster: synergie can maybe do that01:43
zymastericeroot: Ok cool how to use?01:43
icerootzymaster: first have a look at google if that is what you need (luckily) i dont know that apple-stuff you mentioned01:44
Troy^TJ-: is there no other way to mount an ext hd? in ubuntu server? other then usbmount?01:44
icerootTroy^: the normal mount command01:44
Troy^is there a way to get a uuid iceroot to put it in fstab01:44
icerootTroy^: or are you talking about automount?01:44
icerootTroy^: sudo blkid01:44
Troy^iceroot: does not work for external01:45
icerootTroy^: of course its working for externals01:45
icerootTroy^: when you connect it it will listed as /dev/sdX and every /dev/sdX will be shown by blkid01:45
icerootTroy^: tested it 10 seconds ago with my sc card01:46
TJ-Meris: Troy^ When you install usbmount it adds a rule to udev to match certain types of devices (/lib/udev/rules.d/usbmount.rules) which fires the script "/etc/usbmount/mount.d/00_create_model_symlink" and (on unmount) "/etc/usbmount/umount.d/00_remove_model_symlink". Configuration is in "/etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf".  It mounts devices to /media/usb{0-7} if the file-systems in the partitions match those in its config FILESYSTEMS variable.01:46
Troy^TJ-: i removed usbmount01:47
zymastericeroot: I basically hacked android on to my hp touchpad running web os. I hate apple01:47
icerootzymaster: sounds good01:47
DG_WHO LIKES APPLE?01:47
icerootzymaster: both01:47
DG_woah sorry01:47
DG_:O01:47
FloodBot1DG_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.01:47
DG_who likes apple anyways01:47
icerootDG_: this channel is about free and open source and apple has nothing to do with freedom, so please use #ubuntu-offtopic01:48
zymasterDG_: No one on this channel could possibly like apple01:48
MerisDG, I like some Apple products, like my MacBook from 2007 and my Apple aluminum keyboard I am typing on right now. I don't like the *company* Apple has become though.01:48
DG_i only like their keyboard01:49
zymasterMeris: As long as you are running ubuntu on that MacBook I will not kill you. Lol jk01:49
DG_so thin and sexy01:49
DG_:P01:49
TJ-Troy^: iceroot Troy^ Actually, blkid won't return anything for raw device files (/dev/sda); only for file-systems/LVM/MD/RAID (/dev/sda1)01:49
DG_same zymaster01:49
MerisDG, but this is not the channel to discuss that, use #ubuntu-ot for that01:49
bazhang!ot | DG_01:50
ubottuDG_: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:50
icerootTJ-: so there is no partition on that drive?01:50
Meriszymaster, actually I'm not running Ubuntu on that MacBook, due to problems with tripleboot. But again, this topic is not for this channel01:50
DG_ok well i need support anyways01:50
DG_i installed ubuntu01:50
icerootTJ-: sda1 is nothing else then a partition (doesnt matter if there is a filesystem)01:50
bazhang!enter | DG_01:51
zymasterMeris: I will attempt to suppress my anger. Again jk01:51
ubottuDG_: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!01:51
gabrielukhow can i improve audio quality from my ubuntu 10.04 machine?in windows was fine,  now i feel nausea and a wierd feeling in my ears(like my head was going to explode)01:51
DG_lol sorry its a habit, a very bad one. i installed ubuntu and windows 7 went poof :O idk how to boot back into it01:51
MerisTJ-, thanks for the explanation about usbmount. Appreciate it :-)01:52
Sajangabrieluk, stop listening to that new fangled techno music!01:52
TJ-iceroot: blkid recognises the file-system markers. You run it against a raw device that isn't a file-system it won't return anything - there's no UUID, label, etc01:52
wilee-nileeDG_  Is this a Ubuntu install from Windows or a booted usb/cd?01:52
Sajangabrieluk, you're going to have to be a bit more specific as to the problem.01:52
gabrielukSajan, is not about techno, is about the rubish sound quality comming from ubuntu.01:53
icerootTJ-: /dev/sda6: UUID="60f19771-8987-4078-9c8c-59fd92fd07fe" TYPE="swap"01:53
gabrielukSajan, mre specefic? are you joking?01:53
icerootTJ-: you know that "swap" has not filesystem?01:53
DG_i installed windows from a CD01:53
DG_oh shit i mean i installed ubuntu01:53
Meriszymaster, you are welcome to discuss this issue on #ubuntu-offtopic, in fact I'm inviting you ;-)01:53
icerootTJ-: blkid is just reading the block device attributes definded by the partition table01:53
wilee-nileeDG_, Have you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu to see if windows is added to the grub menu?01:53
icerootTJ-: for more informations see "man blkid"01:53
DG_yeahhh... what?01:54
zymasterMeris: No I should not try to fight ubuntu/linux anymore. It makes me no different than Apple fanboys. Lol01:54
gabrielukSajan, so one tell you that the music is causing nausea and unpleasant feeling on his ears and it is not enough? if i go to windows, in the same machine, i do not feel that01:54
icerootTJ-: when sudo blkid is not shoding the uuid for your external drives there can be two reasons, you dont have partitions or the device is not detected correctly (see dmesg)01:54
wilee-nilee!who > DG_01:54
ubottuDG_, please see my private message01:54
Sajangabrieluk, not joking.  Are you listening through speakers? headset? usb? line out?...what software are you playing back from? is it everything? ...yeah, more specific please.01:54
Sajangabrieluk, you feeling nausea is a medical issue.  Go see a doctor.  That's not a symptom anyone here can lead back to Ubuntu and help solve.01:55
TJ-iceroot:  wrong, it reads the meta-data written by the file-system creator01:55
icerootTJ-: swap has no filesystem!!01:55
icerootTJ-: so what file-system infos should be read there?01:55
gabrielukSajan, you are ridiculous mate, i know there's an issue with sound on linux, you cannot hide it01:55
wan26!who > wan2601:55
ubottuwan26, please see my private message01:55
DG_wilee-nilee: i have no clue what any of that means i JUST installed ubuntu and never had any past experience i just wanted it because it was good for this oldddd computer01:55
Meriszymaster, don't worry, I was not about to tempt you to the dark side. I just wanted to explain a few things why I made these choices as a linux enthousiast.01:55
bazhanggabrieluk, so file a bug01:55
bazhang!bugs | gabrieluk01:56
ubottugabrieluk: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.01:56
TJ-iceroot: it has metadata (mkswap writes a header)01:56
icerootTJ-: the kernel is detecting the partiton layout and will create block devices like sda1 sda2 and sdb1 and that is what blkid is reading01:56
bazhanggabrieluk, and refrain from the name calling01:56
zymasterMeris: Do what you want to do. I really don't care I was just joking around01:56
Meriszymaster, please join #ubuntu-offtopic01:57
wilee-nileeDG_, YOU are using the grub bootloader that ubuntu uses right.  In order to update it it if a OS is missing you would run in the ubuntu terminal sudo update-grub.  You say Windows is gone, is it gone from the HD overwritten or just the bot menu?01:57
wilee-nileeboot*01:57
scott_zhow do i determine what /dev/h?? my sd card slot is?01:57
Sajangabrieluk, Nobody is trying to hide anything.  You have to tell us what the problem is.  If the problem is that you feel nauseated, that's a medical issue.  Nobody here can do anything to your computer to fix that.  If someone is CAUSING the nausea, you'll have to be more specific than 'rubbish sound' so we can help troubleshoot.01:57
icerootTJ-: will have a look at it, thanks for the info01:58
Shenmueanyone dominate nmap?01:58
zymasterMeris: One of us needs to stop responding lol I don't really want to discuss this anymore but I feel the need to respond for some reason01:58
bazhang!ot | zymaster01:58
ubottuzymaster: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!01:58
Meriszymaster, allright, I'll stop :-)01:58
bazhangShenmue, just ask the channel01:58
icerootTJ-: ah ok internally its using "findfs"01:58
DG_Wilee-nilee i honestly have no clue im assuming the grub bootloader is the purple screen, i still have the whole partition with windows and all the files are still there it just doesnt show in the boot menu01:59
gabrielukSajan, again, you are a troll and ridiculous, i don't have any medical issue or condition, if i go to windows, in the same machine(i have dual boot) i don't feel nauseas because of the sound. if you don't have nothing nice to say just shut up01:59
bazhanggabrieluk, thats enough. stop it.01:59
gabrielukbazhang, this guy is trolling at me01:59
wilee-nileeDG_, Are you able to get to the ubuntu desktop?01:59
zymasterHey Iam going to go back on topic, does anyone know a real way to use an android tablet as a second monitor with ubuntu. As far as I understand synergy just shares mouse and keyboard.02:00
DG_wilee-nilee i can ONLY boot into ubuntu, ubuntu recovery mode and two other weird things i think they said mem check?02:01
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wilee-nileeDG_, Have you opened a terminal in Ubuntu and run this command sudo update-grub    It helps to know this and if you removed any partitions when installing Ubuntu.02:02
wilee-nileeor resized windows with the ubuntu install DG_02:03
hfic!dualboot02:03
ubottuDual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot02:03
DG_wilee-nilee i made the partition through the installer, it showed my partition with windows 7 which is 150 or so gigs and i took 25 and made it into a new parition and it installed, i have no clue how to code and all that stuf. I installed ubuntu because i liked the look and feel of it02:04
DG_actually brb ill try running that code through02:05
wilee-nileeDG_, copy and paste this command to a ubuntu terminal. The terminal is in the menu.  sudo update-grub    then hit enter put in the password it will not show and look at the terminal and see if windows shows in the grub list02:05
DG_ok thanks02:06
DG_control v to paste right?02:06
wilee-nileeDG_, I just use a right click copy and paste not sure to be honest02:06
MerisDG_, Shift-Ins works as well.02:06
DG_ok thanks02:06
DG_ill be back in a sec02:06
cowsquadShould I tried ubuntu quetzal? any thoughts?02:08
MerisHow can I start another X-session complete with LightDM and the whole shebang from a vterm logged in as a normal user, or is this impossible?02:08
wilee-nileecowsquad, the channel you want is #uibuntu+102:08
wilee-nilee#ubuntu+102:08
cowsquadthank you man02:08
wilee-nileenp02:08
elijahHey guys, accidentally removed myself from all groups, now I cannot sudo anything. How can run a command to fix it without logging out?02:09
hficelijah, you can't02:10
elijahhfic: :/02:10
DG_back02:10
elijahwell, at least it isn't a server, lol02:10
wilee-nileeelijah, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo02:10
hficelijah, unless you have another sudo user. You can readd yourself, if not easiest way is to edit it with a livecd02:10
DG_wilee-nilee i put it in and it said "sudo" is not recognized02:11
pepperjackelijah: i usually boot into single user shell then mount -o remount,rw / to remount root writable02:11
DG_or it is not a command02:11
veryhappyhi guys need your help. i installed a few days before ubuntu 32 bit on my external harddrive but now i'm anyhow sick of it. i actually planned to have a portable linux but since i notice that nearly no notebooks or pcs that i use work only with 32 bit but also with 64 bit i ask me shouldn't i go for 64 bit now?02:12
wilee-nileeDG_, This is the admin account right, or a second standard account? If you don't make the cammond exactly as I posted it you will get errors as well, check that.02:12
veryhappyit's anyhow a little bit too slow sometimes02:12
DG_i put in sudo grub-update i only have one account im a beginner man i wouldnt know :/02:13
wilee-nileeDG_, It is sudo update-grub02:13
TJ-veryhappy: 64-bit is good for 2GB RAM+02:13
elijahwilee-nilee: hfic pepperjack - thanks guys02:13
Merisveryhappy, if it's too slow, try a lighter Desktop Environment, like Lubuntu02:13
DG_well shit im stupid02:13
DG_brb again02:13
Meris!lubuntu | veryhappy02:13
ubottuveryhappy: lubuntu is Ubuntu with LXDE instead of !GNOME as desktop environment, which makes it extremely lightweight. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu - /join #lubuntu for lubuntu support.02:13
wilee-nileelol who isn't02:14
TJ-veryhappy: A 32-bit *and* 64-bit kernel with just a 32-bit user-space is often a good idea for portable drives (USB sticks) to make booting possible on all x86 architectures02:14
veryhappyno not at all i'm happy with my kde and btw this computer here was built 2009+02:14
Merisveryhappy, my computer was built in 2008, but it's still very fast for what I use it for.02:16
veryhappyok other question would it hurt to go for 64 bit and not be able to use EVERY computer when it doesn't support 64 bit?02:16
veryhappythe system ^^02:16
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Merisveryhappy, for a portable USB-stick I would be conservative and go with 32 Bit instead; especially when you want to run it on multiple computers.02:17
TJ-veryhappy: If the system doesn't have more than 4GB of RAM, 64-bit will impose a space penalty since addresses used in programs in RAM take up double the space of 32-bit02:17
TJ-veryhappy: but 64-bit CPUs have more general purpose registers so many programs (if compiled correctly) can benefit from fast execution times since the CPU doesn't have to keep storing variables in memory02:18
veryhappythis is NOT a usb stick this is a portable HDD 2.5" for example why did my flightgear run like a charm and on 32 it's lagging?02:19
DG_wilee-nilee "sudo" is an unrecognized command02:19
Merisveryhappy, perhaps flightgear is optimized for 64-bit?02:19
DG_i cant do anything02:19
veryhappyMeris: i didn't know that02:20
TJ-veryhappy: Can't answer that - maybe the open source non-acelerated 3D driver was being used?02:20
veryhappyi don't know as well02:20
Merisveryhappy, I don't *know* it either, it is just a possibility, nothing more02:20
wilee-nileeDG_, Not sure what to say that command and the word sudo which gives you super user access always work.02:20
veryhappyok02:20
TJ-veryhappy: How do you connect the external hard disk to the PC? USB? eSATA? Firewire?02:21
veryhappyUSB.02:21
wilee-nileeDG_, I assume your not running in root say from recovery.02:21
pepperjackDG_: are you working in the normal ubuntu desktop with a terminal open?  you have the graphical desktop and can launch a browser and stuff?02:21
king_cobrahow do you reclaim unallocated space on HD?02:21
MerisDG_, maybe your PATH variable is messed up?02:21
truemoveking_cobra: gparted?02:22
TJ-veryhappy: OK, if that's USB2 then the maxmium transfer rate on a good day may well be less than 30MB/sec (theoretical maximum is 45MB/sec)02:22
veryhappycan i install ubuntu right now without losing all settings that are already made and can i instruct grub to boot a file instead of a drive that i use with dd?02:22
king_cobraya02:22
DG_wilee-nilee OMG what? lmao i thought i was supposed to be doing this through the grub bootloader command prompt02:22
wilee-nileeDG_, I have been very clear that the terminal is run from the desktop, I said the terminal was found in the menu.02:23
DG_yeah i know you have02:23
DG_im just very stupid02:24
wilee-nileehehe join the club02:24
DG_no matter how clear you say it02:24
DG_ill never get it02:24
DG_now how do i open the command window!02:24
king_cobraI deleted mint from the HD using gparted, now that it's gone i have 15.5 gb unallocated on HD.. and i want that space back for my ubuntu 1202:24
hficDG_, if you don't get it ..you don't get your windows back.02:24
DG_LOL02:24
MerisHow can I start another X-session complete with LightDM and the whole shebang from a vterm logged in as a normal user, or is this impossible?02:24
DG_BUT I MISS MY WINDOWS!02:24
truemoveking_cobra:  just use gparted and extent you ubuntu part02:25
truemoveeas02:25
truemoveeasy02:25
wan26DG_, try pressing ctrl+alt+t together02:25
wilee-nileeDG_, If you have the panel on the left of the ndesktop hit the top button and type terminal and choose that to open and run that command sudo update-grub02:25
DG_wn26 thanks :)02:25
DG_wan*02:25
king_cobraok02:25
pepperjackDG_: dont be intimidated by the repairing grub and other stuff.  its mostly just googling for instructions and pasting a few commands.  most everything for ubuntu is documented in a tutorial :)02:26
DG_its not letting me type in my password wat dah eff02:26
Merisking_cobra, be sure to make a backup first if you do not have a separate /home partition!02:26
veryhappycan i boot an iso directly with grub?02:26
wilee-nileeDG_, YOU wont see it just type it and hit enter02:27
wilee-nileeveryhappy, yes02:27
veryhappywilee-nilee:  how?02:27
veryhappywilee-nilee: well just give me a link02:27
wilee-nileeveryhappy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=154984702:28
veryhappythanks02:28
DG_wilee-nilee it said it found some things :/ now what02:28
veryhappysee ya02:28
veryhappytc02:28
wilee-nileeDG_, are in those things a windows stanza?02:28
DG_linux image, initrd image memtest86+ and windows 8 loader but i have windows 702:29
wilee-nileeDG_, That could be for any number of reasons if you only have W7 and Ubuntu I would just reboot it and in that grub menu should be windows now boot to it to see if it works, so reboot.02:30
natsirthttp://imgur.com/hjpc802:30
DG_ok brb :)02:30
horny-samahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12227183#post1222718302:31
horny-samahelp02:31
king_cobrak02:32
horny-samaanyone?02:34
horny-samaplease help02:34
horny-samahttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12227183#post1222718302:34
natsirtnot with that handle02:34
natsirtit offends me02:34
horny-samanatsirt: come on02:35
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mr-foolI need some help02:36
mr-foolhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12227183#post1222718302:36
wilee-nileemr-fool, You do not mention any specific problem.02:37
natsirtmr-fool: I know of a script. But the last time i posted one i got in trouble02:37
DG_*bows down* thanks wilee-nilee02:38
wilee-nileeDG_, cool your in.02:38
chris59Hello, since upgrading to 12.04 my mouse has been slow to be recognized. It takes about 30 secs after my desktop appears before my mouse is responsive. It's a Logitech mouse I have had for years and was fine in previous versions.02:38
mr-foolwilee-nilee: the problem is I can't get the sound card working02:38
mr-foolno sound02:38
DG_turns out it was mislabeled as windows 802:38
mr-foolnatsirt: seriously?02:39
natsirtyes02:39
DG_then again02:39
DG_im realizing how much faster ubuntu is02:39
DG_the boot time took FOREVER02:39
mr-foolpost it on pastebin??02:39
mr-foolwhat kind of trouble?02:39
natsirtmr-fool: problem?02:40
elijahHey guys, can someone do a "groups yourusername" and tell me if "root" is in that list?02:41
elijahI have restored all groups but am still having sudo issues02:41
Gycklarngycklarn@vain ~ $ groups gycklarn02:41
Gycklarngycklarn : gycklarn printadmin02:41
mr-foolnatsirt: just post it on pastebin so I can use it?02:42
mr-foolproblem solved?02:42
elijahI think the default user groups are "adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare02:42
elijah"02:42
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TJ-elijah: root should never be in a regular-user's groups list02:43
elijahI have a vbox server but the groups are different on that.02:43
natsirtyeah for sure02:43
elijahTJ-: yeah, that is what I thought but the vbox server has root as a group02:43
natsirtgive me liek 5 minutes02:43
MerisWhat is the script that starts X and then LightDM in Ubuntu?02:44
elijahdoes anyone have admin?02:44
elijahI am wondering if my admin group is deleted02:44
TJ-elijah: For sudo "/etc/sudoers" usually has "admin" group set for privileges, but sometimes for some reason the "admin" group isn't create on the system02:44
TJ-elijah: I usually either create the 'admin' group, or better, add the existing "adm" group into "/etc/sudoers" with the same settings as the "admin" group02:44
DG_i love you wilee-nilee02:45
pepperjackelijah: my /etc/sudoers file contains simply a like like:  %sudo  ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL02:46
Meriselijah, or go BSD-style and create the "wheel" group instead02:46
NautilusI burned some DVD-Rs on ubuntu (using K3B) but my XP system doesn't recognize that there's anything on them.  Any ideas why?02:47
mysteriousdarrenNautilus: what are you trying to do with it?02:48
Nautiluswell, I was just hoping to confirm they work on another drive/system02:48
Nautilushm, now I wonder if this drive went south02:48
mysteriousdarrenNautilus: try to boot from it02:49
Nautilusits just data02:49
elijahThanks guys02:49
elijahI will reboot and add the admin group to the system02:49
MerisNautilus, you might have used a formatting that WinXP can't read.02:50
Nautilusbelieve it was ISO966002:50
mysteriousdarrenNautilus: oh sorry thought it was maybe a ubuntu or something xp can't read02:50
mysteriousdarrenas per what Meris said02:50
NautilusISO9660 should be ok from what google indicates02:53
MerisNautilus, you can hide a CD/DVD from Joliet (the standard WindowsXP expects). RockRidge is the alternative and the recommended one if you only plan to use it on Linux systems.02:54
learc83I've got a touchscreen that shows up in lsusb as an HID mouse, but no drivers are installed for it, and when I check /proc/bus/input/devices it's not there. I don't care about multi-touch is there a way to force it to use mouse drivers?02:54
Merislearc83, which brand and model touchscreen are you referring to?02:55
mr-foolATI SBx00 Azalia <---it is a pain in the ass dealing with this sound card02:55
learc83Meris, it's an Atmel touchscreen, with an ID of 03eb:201c, it works in 12.10, but unfortunately the beta is not working on my tablet. I've upgraded my kernel to 3.4 still not working02:56
NautilusMeris: Oh I just remembered that the s/w asked me what platforms it was for, preselected was something like "Linux + Windows" and I left that setting.02:57
MerisOh, my completely forgot the time. I'ts 5AM here, so it's time for me to hit the hay.02:57
Nautilusnite, thanks02:57
MerisNautilus, that option should be just fine for cross-platform purposes.02:57
NautilusI'll try another system, drive might be shot02:58
MerisAllright guys and gals, thanks for the wonderful atmosphere and the knowledge imparted. See you soon :-)02:59
bhast2hello03:00
bhast2can anyone help me03:00
lotuspsychje!ask | bhast203:00
ubottubhast2: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience03:00
WeThePeoplebhast2, jaust ask03:02
bhast2Can I install Ubuntu side by side with Windows 8?03:02
WeThePeopleyes03:02
bhast2Will there be problems?03:02
WeThePeopleidk03:02
bhast2What if I have win7 and win8 dual booting already03:02
WeThePeoplethats fine too03:03
WeThePeoplenvr heard of that usually they will use a vm for windows03:03
WeThePeoplei have installed win 7 in a vm no prob03:03
bhast2I only use linux for android stuff03:04
bhast2I do alot of Visual Styles for Windows 7 and now Windows 8 so I can't have them in VM03:05
bhast2Do I have to have grub run the os picker03:05
bhast2or can I use the windows 8 one03:05
lotuspsychjebhast2:its highly recommended to single boot ubuntu :p03:06
WeThePeopleidk most likely grub 2 can handle it03:06
jeepbhast2: grub is the better way03:06
WeThePeoplebhast2, yeah, what lotuspsychje said then use a vm for windows03:07
bhast2but vm for windows won't work for me03:07
WeThePeoplein ubuntu it will03:07
WeThePeoplein virtualbox03:07
bhast2for what I do I can't run it in VM03:08
WeThePeoplei have had win 7 work just fine03:08
lotuspsychjebhast2:alot of nicest apps for ubuntu wil make your life easy and windowsless03:08
bhast2work and what not I can't have it installed on VM03:08
bhast2wish I could just run Ubuntu03:09
lotuspsychjebhast2:whats the reason you want w8 still?03:09
bhast2Cause of my work03:11
bhast2anyway03:11
lotuspsychje!dualboot | bhast203:11
ubottubhast2: Dual boot instructions: x86/AMD64: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DualBoot/Windows - Macs: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro https://help.ubuntu.com/community/YabootConfigurationForMacintoshPowerPCsDualBoot03:11
bhast2thanks lotuspsychje03:11
lotuspsychjebhast2:its recommended you install w8 first, then make an ubuntu space on your hd03:12
bhast2I can make that space thru the Ubuntu install disk right03:12
bhast2or do it in windows03:13
lotuspsychjebhast2:you can from ubuntu yes, but many guides will say making space from within w7 or w803:14
bhast2ok what would you do03:14
lotuspsychjebhast2:single boot ubuntu lol, i would try ubuntu's install space yes03:15
bhast2lol03:15
bhast2i get the feeling you don't like windows lol03:15
lotuspsychjebhast2:alot of companys run ubuntu servers and completly switched to ubuntu03:15
loquei recently put a fresh copy of ubuntu 12.04 64bit on my machine but the speed of the net goes up and down(down mostly). why could that be?03:25
lotuspsychjeloque:on what wifi card?03:25
loquelotuspsychje, its is a usb stick. let me look at the name...03:26
lotuspsychjeloque:usb stick as in gprs with sim card?03:26
loquelotuspsychje, as in usb wifi adapter03:27
loquertl818703:27
lotuspsychjeloque:realtek it is right03:27
loqueyes03:27
lotuspsychjeloque:wep or wpa security?03:28
loquelotuspsychje, wpa2 personal03:28
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lotuspsychjeloque:there have been bugs before with some cards and wpa security, did you try if web has also speed bottlenecks?03:29
loquewep? no, i havent tried any other types of security but i will03:29
lotuspsychjeloque:its worth a try, also if you find anything interesting on /var/log that could help?03:30
jeepwep is worthless only takes a few minutes to crack might as well just disable security if your gonna use it03:30
adiecan windows read any EXT filesystems?03:31
lotuspsychjejeep: its only for testing mate lol03:31
HeadlessZombieu dont want to transmit in cleartext, wep is better than nothing03:31
lotuspsychje!ext4 | adie03:31
lotuspsychje!ext03:31
adie:/03:31
lotuspsychjehmm03:31
adie!cake03:31
adie:(03:31
jeepadie: ext2fs explorer i think its called03:31
HeadlessZombiewindows can use HFS+ but not natively. best bet is to use NTFS03:32
HeadlessZombieah yeah theres that03:32
adiehmmmm okay03:32
adieany downsides for using NTFS hs a storage drive within ubuntu?03:32
seliteHello guys, by default the Clear Looks theme is not included, how do I install it?03:32
HeadlessZombienope03:32
seliteWill something like apt-get install compiz work?03:32
adieokay ^_^03:33
lotuspsychjeselite:compiz already runs on unity3d03:33
HeadlessZombiedownload it from opendesktop.org then open system settings03:33
selitelotuspsychje: Yeah but I disabled unity I just use gnome now.03:33
lotuspsychjeselite:gnome or gnome classic?03:34
selitelotuspsychje: Gnome classic?03:34
seliteIt's not available in gnome classic.03:34
lotuspsychjeselite:install ccsm you will find out of compiz runs or not03:35
selitelotuspsychje: What's CCSM and why should I install it for a theme?03:35
selite:S03:35
gatewaywirelessiHello, I have a Gateway DX4300 desktop.  I seem to be having issues with the wireless internet for it.  Wireless card seems to be Realtek rtl8190  I have tried several tutorials online to no avail...03:35
seliteAnd btw I downloaded another theme, it's a zip file how do I install it?03:36
lotuspsychjeselite:no ccsm is to config compiz03:36
WeThePeoplegatewaywirelessi, type lshw in terminal and copy , paste to paste.ubuntu.com03:37
sybioze ae03:39
jeepoh what happened to the good ol days where you had to compile your own kernel to make sound and network cards work03:40
Guest64846Hello, Does anyone know about kubuntu on ubuntu channel?03:40
lotuspsychje!alis | Guest6484603:40
ubottuGuest64846: alis is a services bot that can help you find channels. Read "/msg alis help list" for help and ask any questions about it in #freenode. Example usage: /msg alis list #ubuntu* or /msg alis list *http*03:40
gatewaywirelessihttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1193948/03:40
lotuspsychjejeep:lol little offtopic, join  ##hardware03:41
seliteHow do I install themes? I try drag-drop into the appearance but it doesn't work. Any ideas?03:41
lotuspsychjeselite:not sure mate i didnt use gnome for long time03:42
lotuspsychjeselite:did you try http://gnome-look.org/03:43
WeThePeoplegatewaywirelessi, type iwconfig and look for wlan0 wat does it say?03:43
lotuspsychjeselite:alot of usefull info on there03:43
sybioz^03:43
sybioz^^03:43
lotuspsychjesybioz:please stop that03:43
sybioz????03:43
gatewaywirelessisays:  lo  no wireless extensions.  eth0  no wireless extensions.03:44
DracoDanhttp://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/targetcli03:44
lotuspsychjesybioz:this is an ubuntu support channel, ask your question if you have troubles03:44
DracoDanthat page says the latest version is Latest version: 2.0rc1-203:44
sybiozokay03:44
jeepgatewaywirelessi: you probbaly need ndiswrapper03:44
DracoDanI have 2.0rc1, there's a difference between the two, right?03:44
gatewaywirelessiI have ndiswrapper03:44
gatewaywirelessiIsn't working.03:44
DracoDanhow can I get the latest?03:45
Nautilusi'm planning on moving from 10.04 tp 12.04 via a clean install.  My 10.04 is in it's own partition on a dual-boot XP/10.04 system.  I have added another drive (lets call it drive B, and I don't plug in both drives at the same time), and created an exact same size partition so that when I get 12.04 ready, I can use Norton Ghost to do a copy to drive A.  The problem / my Q is that drive A currently has GRUB1 and I'll need to change th03:45
selitelotuspsychje: But the way that it's explained on how to install the theme doesn't work.03:45
DracoDanI'm really sorry if that seems like a silly question03:45
hazelanyone can tell me how make to tor browser run deluge?03:45
HeadlessZombieboot with a live disk and sudo grub-install /dev/sd?03:46
xanguaDracoDan: that page says 2.0rc1-2 is on quantal, are you using ubuntu 12.10 DracoDan ¿03:46
jeepok time for something important ... food bbl03:46
NautilusHeadlessZombie: me?03:46
DracoDanyes03:46
xangua!12.10 | DracoDan03:46
ubottuDracoDan: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+103:46
WeThePeoplegatewaywirelessi, what distro u on03:46
DracoDanshit.. I clicked the wrong chan, sorry :-P03:46
DracoDan(I'm already in both)03:47
gatewaywirelessiI am running Ubuntu 12.04 64X03:47
hazelhow do i run deluge from tor browser?03:47
lotuspsychje!patience | hazel03:47
ubottuhazel: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/03:47
WeThePeoplegatewaywirelessi, type ifconfig do you see wlan0, what does it say03:47
gatewaywirelessiI do not see wlan003:48
HeadlessZombieNautilus, your question got cut off so i just gave a random answer03:48
xanguahazel: i don't see the point in using a torrent client with tor03:48
DracoDanwell, if anyone can help me, I dont expect an answer from ubuntu+1, it's quiet in there03:48
lotuspsychjeselite: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-gnome-shell-34-and-extensions.html03:49
WeThePeoplegatewaywirelessi, this is the prob>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=131469303:49
NautilusHeadlessZombie: hm, didnt get cut off for me.  Maybe just in your client?03:49
WeThePeoplegatewaywirelessi, 64x03:50
Nautiluswhere did it end?03:50
WeThePeopleis 64  bit?03:50
selitelotuspsychje: Thanks man, I was able to solve the problem.03:50
gatewaywirelessiYeah 64 bit03:50
DracoDandoes apt-get update and apt-get-upgrade not update all the packages on a system?  I'm not too familiar with ubuntu :-/03:50
lotuspsychjeselite: god luck mate03:50
DracoDanalso, how can I see what repos it's using?03:50
delinquentmeGREP question:  grep "class" -r / *.rb       this will search for all *.rb files which contain the string "class"    recursively from the current dir03:51
delinquentmeright?03:51
gatewaywirelessiSo, what do I do to solve said problem?03:52
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lotuspsychjegatewaywirelessi:did you read the url from WeThePeople? it describes what you need to do03:54
gatewaywirelessiI am attempting to figure out what exactly on said url I am supposed to follow...03:55
WeThePeoplewell not exactly03:55
simpleircHello03:55
simpleircIs anyone here?03:55
lotuspsychjesimpleirc:just ask your question mate03:56
TJ-delinquentme: "grep -r class *.rb"03:56
WeThePeoplegatewaywirelessi, im still lookin03:56
moriyamaどうこに日本語ではなします?03:57
lotuspsychje!jp | moriyama03:57
ubottumoriyama: 日本語の場合は /join #ubuntu-jp または /join #kubuntu-jp を入力して下さい。03:57
moriyamalotuspsychje, thanks for the link!03:57
gatewaywirelessiI know it would be a lot to ask, but is there anyway someone could remote control the problem system (which I have hooked up to ethernet currently) and figure this out?03:57
sybiozmeu zvo on ubuntu is down03:58
lotuspsychjemoriyama:sugoi ; )03:58
WeThePeoplegatewaywirelessi, here this might work uninstall the ndiswrapper though soo it does not conflict >> http://www.linuxine.com/story/solved-rtl8190-wifi-n-pci-card-driver03:58
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tsimpsondelinquentme: no, it will search recursively from / and all *.rb files in the current directory03:58
sybiozhow much watermelons i need to make a crazy frog burp the alfabeto on the escurregador?03:58
lotuspsychje!ot | sybioz03:59
ubottusybioz: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:59
WeThePeopleok nvr mind03:59
bazhangsybioz, wrong channel03:59
WeThePeoplelol03:59
sybiozok03:59
sybiozbye03:59
WeThePeoplehere >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9895713#post989571304:00
WeThePeoplegatewaywirelessi, see above^^^^04:00
gatewaywirelessiI am on the provided link currently.04:01
adieI am looking to do some weird copy/sync thing on my computer where files show up in one folder, and then get copied to another folder on the same system04:01
delinquentmeso        grep "class" -r ./ *.rb                ... will search from " / "     ... basically my entire system for *.rb files containing "class"04:01
delinquentme?04:01
adieso one folder can remain in tact, and the other one can be ripped apart and organized04:01
lotuspsychjedelinquentme:did you read what TJ told you?04:01
tsimpsondelinquentme: no, it will search recursively from / *and* all *.rb files in the current directory04:01
adienot sure if rsync is the right tool for the job :x04:01
delinquentmelotuspsychje, yeah ... I'm just kind of boggled as to why I've got this thinking in my head04:02
delinquentme( mental debugging )04:02
lotuspsychjegatewaywirelessi: there are many linux drivers on the realtek tw site mate might take alook there too04:03
delinquentmeactually TJ-  "  grep -r require *.rb  "04:03
delinquentme>> grep: *.rb: No such file or directory04:03
delinquentmeO_o;;;;04:04
tsimpsondelinquentme: use find and grep, eg: find . -name '*.rb' -exec grep c"class" {} +04:05
min|dvir|usHow do I get the index of an element $el in a collection of elements $els?04:06
tsimpsonbut without the typo04:06
min|dvir|usWhoops.04:06
delinquentmetsimpson, is that like a pipe?04:06
WeThePeoplegatewaywirelessi, compiling and installing is easy04:06
delinquentmelike the " unix style " pipes?04:06
TJ-delinquentme: You said "recursively from the current dir, right?" ... I showed you how to search from the current directory, since your example would have searched from root "/"04:06
simpleircHello can someone help me with regular expressions on Linux?04:06
delinquentmeyeah all the files within the current dir04:07
min|dvir|ussimpleirc: that's pretty vague. I doubt anyone will want to help.04:07
tsimpsondelinquentme: find has the option to execute something on all found files, so you don't need to pipe, though you could also: find . -name '*.rb' -print | xargs grep "class"04:07
delinquentmeOhh thats the -exec04:07
tsimpsonyes04:07
delinquentmeTJ-, but that didn't do what I was expecting04:07
TJ-delinquentme: However, if the file-names you are searching for begin with a "." you need to do "grep -r class {.,}*.rb04:08
lotuspsychjesimpleirc:what you mean by that?04:08
jeepsimpleirc: just ask if its too complicated someone will tell you this is for ubuntu help only04:08
simpleircOk04:09
gatewaywirelessiThanks for the help. I will be e-mailing realtek and hoping for the drivers. This appears to be the only device not listed on their website...04:09
WeThePeoplenp04:10
HeadlessZombiemsg Areckx he might be able to write a driver for ya04:10
seliteIf I have files like e1 e2 e3 and e1.c e2.c e3.c, how do I delete only the ones without the .c extension?04:10
lotuspsychjegatewaywirelessi:you could try synaptics for realtek driver search too04:11
TJ-selite: "rm e{1,2,3}"04:11
seliteTJ-: What if they go up to 1000?04:11
seliteTJ-: Is there a way that this can be done, in a better, simpler way.04:11
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ElesaHi, I have Natty installed and the installer asks me if I want to replace it with Precise and keep my settings and files. The computer has two accounts, will it work for both?04:12
lotuspsychjeElesa:yes it will upgrade with your existing /homes04:12
luftikussElesa: yes.04:12
jeepcould always just mkdir ../c-files&& mv *.c ../c-files && rm *04:13
ElesaAlso, can I just make a partition with a Live DVD and move the contents of /home to it, then do an advanced installation so that the /home's stay on it?04:13
ElesaThat's what I'd like to do instead of keeping everything on 1 partition.04:13
ElesaI still have a backup and stuff.04:13
lotuspsychjeElesa:whats the purpose of the advanced partitioning?04:14
TJ-selite: "find . -regex '.*/e[[:digit:]]{1,3}' -delete"04:14
lotuspsychjeElesa:another Os?04:14
ElesaKeeping a separate partition for /boot, /home and /.04:14
TJ-selite: slight correction... "find . -regex '.*/e[[:digit:]]{1,3}$' -delete"04:15
ElesaBut most importantly, keeping /home in a different partition for easier upgrading/repairing/etc.04:15
luftikussElesa: Yes, you can do this also successfully.04:15
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ElesaGreat! So I just have to open GParted, make a new partition, copy /home to it, and then set it as /home on the installer, right?04:15
TJ-Elesa: If you reboot into recovery mode you can do it manually from there at the root shell (since /home/ isn't required in that mode)04:16
ElesaOh, okay, I was thinking of doing it from a Live USB though, unless there is some benefit to doing it from the root shell =O04:16
TJ-Elesa: quicker :)04:17
ElesaAnother question, the installer says that it can keep installed programs on the new Precise system if I upgrade directly from Natty to Precise.. Does that really work? Is there any way to do it manually with advanced partitioning?04:19
lotuspsychjeElesa: it will upgrade your home and software yes(if the packages are still supported in precise)04:20
lotuspsychjeElesa:but its higly recommended to clean install precise for smooth fast system04:20
flaviorecskiopa04:20
ElesaI knew you'd tell me that, and I think the same too. Any way to make a list of installed programs?04:21
lotuspsychje!info aptoncd | Elesa04:21
ubottuElesa: aptoncd (source: aptoncd): Installation disc creator for packages downloaded via APT. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.1.98+bzr117-1.2 (precise), package size 216 kB, installed size 1535 kB04:21
ElesaI hope I can just sudo apt-get install it >.>04:21
tsimpson!clone04:21
ubottuTo replicate your packages selection on another machine (or restore it if re-installing), you can type « aptitude  --display-format '%p' search '?installed!?automatic' > ~/my-packages », move the file "my-packages" to the other machine, and there type « sudo xargs aptitude --schedule-only install < my-packages ; sudo aptitude install » (this currently may cause problems with multiarch) - See also !automate04:21
ElesaThanks lotuspsychje!04:22
lotuspsychjeElesa: sure, a good backup of your files and packages then clean install precise, and partition as you wish04:22
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Elesatsimpson, does that create conflicts with Precise? I mean, incompatible libraries and stuff..?04:23
Elesalotuspsychje, that's done via Dejà Dup, thanks.04:23
zykotick9tsimpson: i don't think the !clone factoid should be suggested in 12.04 (see !aptitude for details)... just sayin' ;)04:23
seliteHow do I change the font size in vim?04:24
tsimpsonElesa: you should mostly be ok04:24
ElesaSo.. aptoncd or clone? D:04:24
tsimpsonzykotick9: most people don't really have multiarch  stuff04:24
lotuspsychjeElesa: i installed precise 12.04.1 64 in like 13minutes04:24
zykotick9tsimpson: all 64bit people do (and 64bit just overtook 32bit on debian)04:25
* Elesa uses a 32bit system.04:25
tsimpsonzykotick9: not yet on ubuntu installs though04:25
king_cobrai have a question about editing the menu list file in /boot/grub/menu.lst , after removing linux mint.. yet again and updating grub for the umpteenth time the grub menu at start up still displays all the Mint boot options,  my question is can i edit this file an delete the unwanted OS's on the grub menu?04:25
zykotick9tsimpson: was literally the last few days i believe it happened for the first time with popcorn on debian ;)04:26
ElesaMaybe I'll use aptoncd because I want to start fresh and maybe there will be some packages that I don't want anymore, thanks for you great help anyways. =D04:26
lotuspsychje!mint | king_cobra04:26
ubottuking_cobra: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org04:26
tsimpsonzykotick9: the majority of ubuntu installs are still 32bit, mostly because it has the word "recommended" next to it04:26
king_cobrai dont have MINT.. i removed it.. im on Ubuntu editing a file on Ubuntu..04:26
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lotuspsychjeking_cobra: oh ok my bad mate04:26
king_cobrahate that crap04:27
LibertyTraderdoes centrino 2200BGN have open source drivers?04:27
wilee-nileeking_cobra, What is at the top of the grub list when you boot?04:27
zykotick9tsimpson: </ot> but i honestly think ubuntu should stick to that recommendation.  i see serveral 64bit issues in this channel that could probably be avoided ;)04:27
daurnimatoranyone used a touch screen with ubuntu?04:28
ElesaUmm.. APTonCD is certainly NOT displaying all my packages.04:28
daurnimatormine seems to be doing select (rather than licking)04:28
daurnimator*clicking04:28
lotuspsychje!ot | daurnimator04:28
ubottudaurnimator: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!04:28
wilee-nileeking_cobra, Or if you run sudo update-grub04:28
zykotick9lotuspsychje: that's not really ot?04:28
napsterElesa: It just lists packages available in the apt cache04:28
zykotick9lotuspsychje: !anyone maybe ;)04:28
king_cobrawilee-nilee: Ubuntu 11.10, kernel 3.0.0-13-generic even though its 12.0404:28
datruthmy system boots up in 43seconds i'm trying to speed that up what are some things I can do?04:28
daurnimatorlotuspsychje: huh?04:28
wilee-nileeking_cobra, YOU have just one Ubuntu install or is 11.10 installed as well?04:29
king_cobraits only 12.0404:29
xinyisudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-30-generic04:30
xinyithis would update the kernel04:30
wilee-nileeking_cobra, Cool, have you used a grub menu tweaker like grub customizer?04:30
wilee-nileeor any other04:31
king_cobrayes04:31
* zykotick9 suggests using "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to update kernels... but that's just me04:31
lotuspsychjedatruth:install a 64bit ubuntu on an ssd hd04:31
king_cobraill try it Zykotick9, right now just trying to get Mint off my grub menu..04:32
jeeplotuspsychje: did you do a kernel yet ?04:32
wilee-nileeking_cobra, Ah there is the problem you can adjust from there probably or just purge and reinstall grub including making sure IT gets put in the mbr then run a update-grub and have it all fixed then tweak again, so ask for the purge commands and the reinstall commands first.04:32
lotuspsychjejeep:no, like i said i used several versions and kernels for years on ubuntu, this bug remained following me..04:33
wilee-nileefirst before jut doing a purge unless you know king_cobra04:33
zykotick9lotuspsychje: 64bit is only really useful for certain situations and/or more then 4GB RAM...04:33
lotuspsychjejeep:its gotta be something else..04:33
loquecan i change my mac address permanently?04:33
xinyiyep04:34
lotuspsychje!info macchanger | loque04:34
ubottuloque: macchanger (source: macchanger): utility for manipulating the MAC address of network interfaces. In component universe, is extra. Version 1.5.0-9 (precise), package size 162 kB, installed size 532 kB (Only available for linux-any)04:34
loqueawesome04:34
lotuspsychjezykotick9: i got 64bit on ssd with 1gig ram and feel very usefull..04:34
king_cobraok.. will try..04:34
datruthlotuspsychje: nothing I can tweak on the system? it use to load up faster than 43seconds04:34
napsterloque: Actually mac change is temporary and will reset on reboot04:35
zykotick9lotuspsychje: i have 64bit os on ssd with 4GB RAM - and do a ton of encoding (current load average: 7.72, 7.67, 7.67)04:35
lotuspsychjedatruth: most speed boosts are hd and ram and cpu...04:35
king_cobrathank you04:36
xinyiin reallity , mac addr is written to hardware, any software mean to change it just modify it every time you boot04:36
Elesanapster, any way to make it list every package? ._.04:37
zykotick9xinyi: i hate the eth1, then eth2 mac changes cause... udev is solution BTW04:37
napsterxinyi: And I would have added the macchanger random mac command to some init scripts if I wanted to do this :)04:37
datruthlotuspsychje: cpu and ram is pretty powerful it seems like over time but system takes longer to boot04:37
jeeplotuspsychje: try it i bet your in for a surprise04:37
datruthand im trying to fix that04:37
lotuspsychjedatruth:what hd brand u run ubuntu on?04:38
zykotick9napster: lol, you're gonna end up with eth204 ;)04:38
napsterElesa: What you exactly wanted to do is to make a list of names of all installed packages.04:38
napsterzykotick9: :D04:38
Elesanapster, I guess I will open Gedit and do it. xD04:38
Elesasigh04:38
napsterElesa: no04:39
lotuspsychjedatruth:43 second with POST loading counting?04:39
napsterElesa: I think this will do it for you : dpkg --get-selections > installed-software04:39
Elesadone04:39
datruthlotuspsychje: 43seconds to get from my boot screen to desktop and I think I have wd04:39
Psi-JackI'm having this constant problem. Many things I do, such as simply looking at email in Thunderbird. Sending/Receiving IMs in Pidgin, starting Chrome, I get an Authenticate dialog: Authentication is required to change user data.04:39
* zykotick9 thinks dpkg might even be worse then aptitude... for this case, but isn't sure.04:40
jeepElesa: for list of every package dpkg -l > foo.txt then open foo.txt04:40
lotuspsychjeDatruth: thats pretty fast for a regular hd mate, ide or sata?04:40
ElesaThanks jeep. =D04:40
datruthlotuspsychje: sata how can I see what services/deamons are being loaded on boot time and how can I disable them?04:40
napsterElesa: jeep Actually the first command outputs something that can be used to reinstall those packages back, That is exactly what Elesa want to do04:41
CellTechAwesome question. Any chance I could set my computer up with my linux on ide1 and a windows drive on ide2 then chose what to boot from at start up?04:41
lotuspsychjedatruth: i really recommend ssd on ubuntu, messing with services will ot gain much speed04:41
napsterElesa: dpkg --set-selections < installed-software Use this command when you are done with your fresh install get all those packages back installed.04:42
PirschHello. Is anyone here familiar with ubuntu and eepc?04:42
Elesa=O, that's great04:43
lotuspsychjePirsch:just ask your question mate04:43
ElesaFinally, any way to get aMSN in Precise?04:43
yaksterno, but if you want to send me one, Ill definatly take a look see… lol04:43
lotuspsychje!info amsn | Elesa04:43
ubottuElesa: Package amsn does not exist in precise04:43
PirschI bought my daughter an eeepc and installed ubuntu on it. I have wireless options but my wired internet is non-existent. Nothing happen when I plug the cable in04:43
Psi-JackHmmm, that "Authentication required" seems to come from policykit's polkit-agent-helper-104:43
lotuspsychjeElesa:maybe a manual amsn install04:44
ElesaD:04:44
ElesaYou mean compiling it?04:44
Pirschlotuspsychje, my google searches have been fruitless04:44
datruthlotuspsychje: how can I do it any way04:44
datruthlotuspsychje: i can only get 128gb max on ssd?04:44
napsterElesa: no, debs are available04:45
ElesaI hope so, because the last time I searched for a Precise .deb I found nothing.04:45
lotuspsychjedatruth:what you mean by max?04:46
napsterElesa: if you don't find precise packages, you will need to build it your own.04:46
ElesaCompiling.. ._.04:46
lotuspsychjeElesa: https://launchpad.net/~amsn-daily/+archive/ppa04:46
ElesaNow that I like. =D04:47
ElesaI guess that'd be all, thanks guys! Have a good night/day/whatever!04:47
datruththe services/deamons04:47
lotuspsychjePirsch:did you enable eth0 cabled conection for the first time?04:47
lotuspsychje!info bum | datruth04:48
ubottudatruth: bum (source: bum): graphical runlevel editor. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.5.2-1 (precise), package size 83 kB, installed size 520 kB04:48
lotuspsychjebrb04:49
Pirschlotuspsychje, I'm a noob so I'll tell you what I did. I opened edit connections and did what I always do with setting up the DSL. That didn't work so I thought I might try doing an automatic wireless. That didn't work either. How can I enable eth0?04:49
Pirschlotuspsychje, I mean automatic wired04:50
luftikuss"Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for Unix-like OSs." "LXDE is a free and open source desktop environment for Unix and other POSIX compliant platforms." What is the main difference between them two?04:50
Pirschlotuspsychje, 'enable eth0' does sound like the right thing to do. I'll google a 'howto' and if I cannot find it, I'll be back04:51
wilee-nileeluftikuss, what is your definition of main here there are multiple fiffrences.04:52
wilee-nileedifferences*04:52
luftikusswilee-nilee: Use your definition and tell me. I don't know yet.04:52
Pirschlotuspsychje, I'll try this http://wiki.geteasypeasy.com/Your_Ethernet_%28LAN%29_doesnt_work,_but_you_have_drivers%3F_Simple...04:53
wilee-nileeluftikuss, lubuntu is much lighter in its use of ram and cpu than xubuntu is the main thing I would say.04:53
wilee-nileeram anyway for sure, both can be trimmed though to run light.04:54
luftikusswilee-nilee: You used the term "xubuntu". But I would like that you tell me the difference between Xfce and LXDE, please.04:55
wilee-nileeluftikuss, those are the base of lubuntu and xubuntu basically the same difference. If you really want to know you can install both and completely remove them easily to compare.04:56
wilee-nileethey will overlap in some apps both instaled though.04:57
jeepluftikuss: desktop environments are like women the more you try the happier you will be in the end04:58
myherohii all04:58
lotuspsychjejeep:lol04:59
wilee-nileethat is a horribly sexist remark I would be careful there.04:59
myherowhich is the best im clent for webcam n ubuntu...if its multi-im then its better otherwise single ones also do...but the best for im webcam on ubuntu05:00
Psi-Jackmyhero: There is no "best" of anything. Best is a measure of your own personal and unique opinion of what you consider best for you, and could be in multiple different scenarios. It is more useful to ask more specific questions you have.05:00
Pirschlotuspsychje, didn't work. I still have no network connection05:00
myheroPsi-Jack: name some gud multi-im clients which have webcam feature05:01
qualiaHi ! I know that solving the problem of "Question marks showing up instead of the subtitles, with special characters from another language" is done by choosing that language in Subtitles & Encoding. But this hasn't solved the problem for me and it's still displaying ? instead of special characters05:01
Psi-Jackmyhero: Skype. :p05:01
qualiai dont have anything on my system about that language could that be the problem, do i have to download an encoding file thing?05:01
myheroPsi-Jack: skype supports yahoo and google and is it available on ubuntu ??05:02
Psi-Jackmyhero: No. You were completely unspecific, so you got a very unspecific answer. Gee, would've helped to be more specific as you were told, right? And yes, Skype's available for Ubuntu.05:02
namoamitabuddhaIs there anybody using unbound?05:03
jeepnamoamitabuddha: lots of people "unbound" online im not sure if anyone specifically chooses it05:04
aminux71hi05:04
jeepqualia: subtitles as in your watching a video and the subtitles dont show ?05:04
aminux71i need help prob with install ubuntu05:05
myheroPsi-Jack: skype supports im for yahoo google msn fb with webcam feature ?? any other gud alternatives supporting these networks and integrated with webcam feature....??? what about pidgin empathy or glaxium ?05:05
jeep!ask > aminux7105:05
ubottuaminux71, please see my private message05:05
qualiajeep, yes05:05
wilee-nileeaminux71, I saw your post in the forms channel do you only have 256 mib of ram?05:05
Psi-Jackmyhero: good is spelled "good", not "gud"05:05
wilee-nileeforums*05:05
aminux71os install mode enabled on dell optiplex 75505:06
Psi-Jackaminux71: "OS install" mode usually sucks. It just keeps the RAM down to 256MB or such, which is kinda silly.05:06
myheroPsi-Jack: i know....shorthand....also here ppl dont like shorthand that i also i know....but typing that way...anyway am i getting any useful ans. ?05:06
codemaniacaminux71: a quick serch returned me this05:06
Psi-Jackmyhero: This channel, and specifically I, does not respond well to "shtspk", because it is lame, annoying, and unacceptable here.05:06
codemaniachttp://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ws530/en/ug/html/2codes.htm05:06
aminux71i have 1 gb ram05:07
Psi-Jackaminux71: Yes.. "OS Install mode" will not give you 1GB RAM.05:07
myheroPsi-Jack: i know....but u gonna ans. or should i leave....??05:07
Psi-Jackmyhero: Bye!05:07
Rayston I apologize for this not really being an Ubuntu question, but anyone know a good place to get free shell access on a server where I am allowed to run persistent processes like IRCBots, Mumble Servers. etc.? I have a webserver and they offer such but at 15 bux a month, seems pricey05:07
myheroPsi-Jack: ok asshole05:08
Psi-JackRayston: Very off topic.05:08
IdleOne!language | myhero05:08
ubottumyhero: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.05:08
jeepRayston: why not use your own computer ?05:08
Raystonlaptop that is far from guaranteed to have good uptimes05:08
jeepRayston: go get a dumpster box .. the things you want a p2 would handle perfect05:09
Psi-Jackjeep: Or just mow a few lawns. Computers are cheap these days.05:09
lotuspsychjeHowto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed('nomodeset' fixes this, but then compiz is unworkable)05:10
Raystonhehe, yeah, I actually probably have the parts to build one, just bein lazy, not sure which should win, cheap, or lazy05:10
jeepPsi-Jack: yep exactly and ubuntu downloads are free as well .. just need to purchase a cd for installing on a old computer that wont boot usb05:10
Psi-Jackjeep: Or just simply have a CDRW that you can use/erase05:11
myherobazhang: any gud multi-im chat client for ubuntu which has webcam feature and supports atleast yahoo gtalk msn ??05:11
jeeplotuspsychje: remeber that guy little bit agao with the realtek wifi issue .. module for it is in new kernel i think05:11
Psi-JackSome people never learn....05:11
myherosome ppl always insert their nose inbetween05:12
luftikusswilee-nilee: Thank you for explaining.05:12
lotuspsychjejeep:any way to update kernel automaticly with apt-get?05:12
luftikussjeep: Your message is not helpful.05:13
myherosome dont help when they r supposed 2 and even dont let others help also05:13
luftikussmyhero: True.05:13
myheroluftikuss: i know05:13
jeeplotuspsychje: you build a .deb then use dpkg to install it so you can remove it easy as well05:13
myherobazhang: any help ??05:14
lotuspsychjejeep:i used so many kernels in the past mate, i doubt this bug will vanish with this05:14
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WeThePeoplewhat channel would be willing to talk about someone hacking my wireless signal and helping out with ?that05:15
myheroany105:15
WeThePeoplemyhero, ask again05:15
lotuspsychjejeep:if adding nomodeset to grub fixes it, meaning it works on the kernel i use...05:15
lotuspsychjejeep:i really think its a grafix issue05:16
robertzaccourWhen I installed the FGLRX driver and restarted the picture shrunk off scale and is now smaller than the display. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance05:16
aminux71The OS Install Mode option in system setup is set to On. This limits the amount of available memory to 256 MB because some OSs will not complete installation with more than 2 GB of system memory.05:16
myheroWeThePeople:  any1.......any gud multi-im chat client with wecam feature supporting atleast yahoo, gtlak n msn networks for ubuntu ??05:17
aminux71After the OS is installed, enter system setup and set the OS Install Mode option to Off.05:17
ElesaIs it normal that GParted takes more than 15 minutes to shrink a 300 GB partition to 154?05:17
Elesa._.05:17
Grant_PHey guys, best AVI > MP4 convertor for ubuntu 12.04?05:17
WeThePeoplemyhero, pidgin maybe05:17
IdleOne!im | myhero05:17
ubottumyhero: The Empathy Instant Messenger is installed by default and supports MSN, XMPP (Jabber, GTalk and  variants), AIM, Gadu-Gadu, Novell Groupwise, ICQ, YIM, IRC and others. See also !Kopete and !pidgin05:17
wilee-nileeWeThePeople, wep or wpa is pretty easy to hack so a 128 full password is where I would start with using pwgen -s -n -y to generate or a web keynaker that is as close to random as it can be, you would have to install pwgen to use that code.05:17
aminux71but i don,t have the option os install on my bios05:18
wilee-nileekeymaker*05:18
ElesaGrant_P: I think Arista Transcoder.05:18
WeThePeoplegrant_p, look for one in software center05:18
myheroWeThePeople: does pidgins supports webcam on yahoo, man and gtalk ??05:18
jeeplotuspsychje: ill be back ina few05:18
WeThePeoplemyhero, idk if you will get all that in a client05:18
WeThePeoplewilee-nilee, thanks05:19
robertzaccourMy display screen is off scale, its smaller than the entire screen. Ever since I installed the FLGRX driver05:19
myheroWeThePeople: i only want chat client for yahoo, gtalk and msn with webcam and voice for ubuntu.....nothing more.....05:20
ElesaIs it normal that GParted takes more than 15 minutes to shrink a 300 GB partition to 154? I'm scared of clicking Cancel but it's taken TOO much time.05:20
WeThePeopleelesa, is it a ubuntu partition or win05:20
wilee-nileeElesa, at the least if there is data there, do not stop it.05:21
WeThePeoplemyhero, pidgin might05:21
IdleOnemyhero: install and try pidgin, see if it suits your needs.05:22
wilee-nileeElesa, If this is a OS it will take 15 to 20 at least to read it then start resizing.05:22
robertzaccourmyhero: Skype and the google video chat plugin for gmail work great for video chat. Also in Kopete you can connect to Yahoo Messenger but no audio with the webcam.05:22
ElesaIt's a Ubuntu partition.05:22
Grant_PThanks Elesa & WeThePeople05:22
ElesaYeah, it is.05:22
ElesaSure Grant_P. =D05:22
myherook..i have installed pidgin...but there is no webcam otion at all...how to activate webcam on pidgin05:23
WeThePeoplemyhero, yes it should i saw a plugin for voice and video05:23
robertzaccourAre there any Ubuntu programs used to fix scaling issues caused by proprietary graphics drivers? Got an issue with FGLRX05:23
myheroWeThePeople: ok...i will search for the plugin05:24
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WeThePeoplemyhero, it under tools05:24
WeThePeopleplugins05:24
myheroWeThePeople: yea...got it.....tick marked it...now what....is it installed coz after ticking it nothing happening......05:25
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robertzaccourWhen I installed the proprietary FGLRX driver and rebooted my display picture is off scale. The picture is smaller than the display parameters. Is there a way to fix scaling issues?05:26
WeThePeoplemyhero, http://askubuntu.com/questions/9217/audo-video-with-pidgin05:27
myheroi installed wine then yahoo messenger and gtalk and platalk in wine but everytime its getting stuck...so i think im clients dont work gud in wine......05:27
myheroWeThePeople: thnx05:27
ElesaI'm starting to get worried.05:29
myherorobertzaccour: any other chat client for ubuntu....coz i downloaded gtalk but its exe file for windows...not for ubuntu,.....05:29
tripperok05:29
tripperno05:29
tripperwait05:29
tripperso05:29
WeThePeoplemyhero, http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/vv05:29
tripperhere's my problem05:30
tripperAudio doesn't work when logged in05:30
tripperbut05:30
Anusien Do I need to install a specific package to get the open source radeon drivers?05:30
tripperthe GDM makes that little bongodrum sound thingy05:30
robertzaccourmyhero: https://www.google.com/chat/video it works just fine within gmail05:30
tripperso obviously things are just screwy in my setting somewhere05:30
tripperwhat do05:30
tripperI want to be able to listen to music and stuff05:31
WeThePeopletripper, have you sudo apt-get upgrade yet?05:31
Psi-JackHmmm, interesting.05:31
tripperand the fact that the gdm intro sound works makes me curious05:31
lotuspsychjeAnusien:i think it uses radeon as default05:31
Psi-JackSeems I've solved the whole "Authorization required..." issue05:31
tpricei just installed uec and im getting this error in the store "Error 60: server certificate verification failed. "05:31
trippercos I mean in theory then sound should work05:31
tripperWeThePeople: Updating packages now.05:31
tpricei tried this but didnt work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=183761205:31
tpriceay advice?05:32
ElesaIt's taken about 25 minutes now..05:32
thomedyquick question i have a software packet .... for example lets just say blender put in a specific path... that i call with ~/... etc... i want to make ~/.. [the path] into a thing like ls where its just a command05:32
WeThePeopleelesa, keep waitin05:32
lotuspsychjeElesa:ext4?05:32
WeThePeople25 min isnt long05:32
myhero1what is the diff. between ubuntu 12.04 and 12.04.105:32
ElesaYes.05:32
WeThePeople12.04.1 is newest05:32
Elesamyhero1: There's no difference, the latter is just Ubuntu 12.04 with all updates so far.05:33
thomedyim pretty sure thats just #!BASH or something like that and then the path in the bash script but then what how do i turn it  into a command i can call from anywhere05:33
Elesalotuspsychje: it's ext4, yes.05:33
Anusienlotuspsychje: I am having some choppiness with mplayer/vlc that I can't explain any other way. SEtting cache doesn't help, and CPU is < 50%05:33
myhero1Elesa:  i have 12.04 installed so should i go for 12.04.105:33
lotuspsychjeAnusien:did you try unity2d?05:33
Elesamyhero1: They are the same, 12.04.1 just means that the ISO you download from the Ubuntu website has all the updates so far.05:34
ElesaYou already have those updates.05:34
myhero1WeThePeople: any major update  ?? i have limited connection so i dont want to waste bandwidth.....so should i update sstem or continue with 12.0405:35
myhero1system*05:35
Elesamyhero1: I told you it's the same system.05:35
WeThePeoplemyhero1, its up to you05:35
myhero1Elesa: ok05:35
Elesamyhero1: 12.04.1 is 12.04 with all the updates you have. o_o05:36
tpriceI have just installed UEC and im getting an error when i try to search for an image in the store.05:36
tpriceI tried this but with no success. http://open.eucalyptus.com/forum/ser...#comment-1925205:36
tpriceError 60: server certificate verification failed.05:36
tpriceAny advice on getting the UEC working?05:36
FloodBot1tprice: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:36
lotuspsychjeAnusien:you could try ubuntu-restricted-extras and see if it helps05:36
robertzaccourWhen I installed the proprietary FGLRX driver and rebooted my display picture is off scale. The picture is smaller than the display parameters. Is there a way to fix scaling issues?05:36
robertzaccourmyhero1: did ya try out the browser plugin for google talk video chat?05:37
myhero1Elesa: i dont have any update till now...coz i dont update coz as i told before i have limited connection....05:37
WeThePeoplerobertzaccour, type xrandr -s 0cin termial05:37
Anusienlotuspsychje: I don't understand what that would matter? And there seems to be an active bug saying unity2d makes media players flicker05:37
WeThePeoplestop05:38
robertzaccourWeThePeople: what does that do?05:38
WeThePeoplerobertzaccour, stop05:38
lotuspsychjeAnusien:depending on what kinda video codec files you run on vlc, installing the extras can make a difference05:38
WeThePeoplexrandr -s 005:38
Anusienlotuspsychje: Some pretty basic stuff, honestly05:39
Elesamyhero1: What do you want to do? Update your PC? If that's what you want, you should just go to some place with fast internet and update via the Update Manager.05:39
lotuspsychjeAnusien:you got an older grafix card?05:39
robertzaccourWeThePeople: is that for screen scaling?05:39
WeThePeopleyes05:39
WeThePeopleresclaing05:39
AnusienATI X1200, so no binary support from ATI05:39
caelim using xubuntu 11.04, though i have a question,  how can i stop it from blanking my laptop's screen like its powering it down? gets really annoying when watching streams and youtube.05:39
WeThePeopleresolution05:39
myhero1robertzaccour: i have it...but i have not tried in on ubuntu.....but then still if it works then it will only have google network and yahoo and msn networks will be left behind.....so i want a chat lient which supports webcam and voice supporting yahoo, google and msn......nothing more.......05:39
lotuspsychjeAnusien: i also got an older x800 got screen corruptions at boot05:40
ElesaUgh, will that resizing operation finish some time?05:40
rabbi1how to disable upgrade in 12.04 ?05:41
WeThePeoplemyhero1, pidgin does05:41
robertzaccourmyhero1: I don't think there's an app that supports all that in Windows or Linux outside of running each individual program. I know in Windows there's camfrog, with that you can share the same cam display in multiple IM clients.05:41
myhero1Elesa: ok..thnx dear...last question on 12.04.1....are there any major updates like anything concerning security or system stability and functioning ?? or i can continue with 12.04 without much worries....05:42
mitrokovGood afternoon experts ubuntu. Help please! have a weak computer needed an easy way to tell ubuntu distro that can advise novice05:42
WeThePeoplerobertzaccour, type xrandr -h in terminal for --help05:42
caelold/weak? use xubuntu05:42
lotuspsychje!info lubuntu-desktop | mitrokov05:42
Elesamyhero1: installing 12.04.1 would be just like updating your current 12.04 via the Update Manager, so you have nothing to worry about! =D05:42
ubottumitrokov: lubuntu-desktop (source: lubuntu-meta): Lubuntu Desktop environment. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.38 (precise), package size 1 kB, installed size 30 kB (Only available for i386; amd64; powerpc; ia64; sparc; lpia; armel; armhf)05:42
WeThePeopleDSL05:42
cfhowlettmitrokov: lubuntu or xubuntu05:42
robertzaccourWeThePeople: ok thanks05:43
WeThePeople!info | DSL05:43
ubottu'DSL' is not a valid distribution: hardy, hardy-backports, hardy-proposed, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, lucid, lucid-backports, lucid-proposed, maverick, maverick-backports, maverick-proposed, medibuntu, natty, natty-backports, natty-proposed, oneiric, oneiric-backports, oneiric-proposed, partner, precise, precise-backports, precise-proposed, quantal, quantal-backports, quantal-proposed, stable, testing, unstable05:43
Anusienlotuspsychje: I found it, it's xserver-xorg-video-radeon05:43
rabbi1how to disable upgrade in 12.04 ?05:43
mitrokovok thanks05:43
caelbut anyone know how to stop screen sleeping? im getting tired of it when watching videos05:43
lotuspsychjeAnusien:can you tell me what to do?05:43
cfhowlettrabbi1: there is no automatic upgrade, so just don't upgrade05:44
lotuspsychjeAnusien:found that x1200 bug also on the xorg, but not sure howto fix05:44
cfhowlettcael: in your system settings.  Change you time out/sleep behavior05:44
luftikussHow can I determine my current window manager?05:44
Elesalotuspsychje: my PC's fan suddenly started spinning faster, so I guess you were right about GParted first reading the OS, and then creating the partition, which I believe is being done now.05:44
TicoHi, someone knows how i can make ubuntu to boot with noapic automatic?05:45
rabbi1cfhowlett: i recently upgraded from 2.6 to 3.2 generic... that should be okay right? as my ubuntu was hanging quite often05:45
lotuspsychjeElesa: you clean installed it now?05:45
caelthanks cfhowlett05:46
Elesalotuspsychje: no, I wish. I haven't because this resizing thing has taken more than 30 minutes. Remember what I was saying about creating a new partition and moving /home there, then setting it as the new home in the installer?05:46
cfhowlettrabbi1: KERNEL upgrade?  different story.05:46
lotuspsychjeAnusien:let me know how you fix that xorg-video05:46
lotuspsychjeElesa:yes, partitioning can take a while05:47
lotuspsychje!noapic05:47
lotuspsychje!nomodeset | Tico05:47
ubottuTico: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter05:47
myhero1which is better lubuntu kubuntu xubuntu or ubuntu ?? i am not doing any voting or asking about preferences...but i wanna clean install so i wanna know.....coz i dont know which is better05:48
lotuspsychjeTico:there's a noapic section on there mate05:48
HeadlessZombieit all depends.05:48
WeThePeopleubuntu05:48
Elesamyhero1: Why do you want to reinstall?05:48
Ticolotuspsychje: oh okay :P05:48
HeadlessZombiei like xubuntu and kubuntu and ubuntu drives me nuts05:48
HeadlessZombieubuntu is a nice jumping off point, but i never leave it as they have it out of the box05:49
myhero1Elesa: coz i have windows on hdd and this i am running libe from ubuntu stick05:49
myhero1live*05:50
Elesamyhero1: They are the same system, but with different desktop environments and apps by default, but they can be modified to look and be like the K, X and L variants.05:50
Ticolotuspsychje: but how do i make it to execute by it self and not me typing noapic everytime i boot ubuntu?05:50
Elesamyhero1: it all depends on how you like to use your PC, do you find the Ubuntu interface useful and productive for you?05:50
cfhowlettmyhero1: suggest you install virtualbox on windows and try out all your options before you install to the hdd05:50
Elesa^^05:51
lotuspsychjeTico:add it to etc/default/grub05:51
myhero1yeah i use ubuntu and find it gud...but occasionally i find it stucking on some load05:51
Ticolotuspsychje: in ubuntu?05:51
Elesamyhero1: Any OS in a Live USB will behave a bit slower than if it was installed on a hard drive.05:52
cfhowlettElesa: exactomundo05:52
myhero1cfhowlett: thnx...but still the same question...if somebody who has used all can suggest which is better coz i cant decide on just lil time of using it and on look and feel...05:52
lotuspsychjeTico:yes add the boot command you like and update-grub after and reboot05:52
myhero1Elesa: thats surprising...i thought usb respone time is better then hdd05:53
cfhowlettmyhero1: EXACTLY why I suggested you install virtualbox for windows, install ubuntu to virtual box and try out the different flavors.05:53
Ticolotuspsychje: okey thanks for the help :)05:53
Ticolotuspsychje: okey thanks for the help :)05:54
tpriceshould i use 10.04 for UEC or 12.04?05:54
Ticolotuspsychje: cya*05:54
Elesamyhero1: What cfhowlett said. xD05:54
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ElesaSheesh..05:55
ElesaWhy is this thing so slow.. ._.05:55
lotuspsychjeElesa: anything interesting in /var/log/syslog?05:56
pepperjackmyhero1: of course you can install them on natively and choose which to log into as well05:56
myhero1cfhowlett: thats no help....that will take some time...and os performance cant be judged in lil time.......i asked if anyone has used them and can suggest which is better.....05:56
myhero1i have used ubuntu so far with xfce kde and lxde installed on it05:57
Elesalotuspsychje: Well, what should I look for?05:57
cfhowlettmyhero1: better/best means nothing as it is all subjective.  I've used all.  I chose what works best for me and my machine.  That said, install one version and add the different desktop managers and try them all out.05:57
lotuspsychjeElesa:some usb drives being slow can leave errors on there, look at the bottom of syslog05:57
Elesamyhero1: then it's the same thing, use whichever has your favorite desktop environment, be it XFCE, KDE, or LXDE, don't like it? Then install a new desktop environment.05:58
lotuspsychjemyhero1:this is a support channel, not a performance quiz..move on the ubuntu problems05:58
pepperjackmyhero1: well xfce and lxde have similar dependencies so the comparison would really be between them, unity(default ubuntu) and kubuntu.  personally i prefer kde or a ligher gtk environment like xfce or lxde05:59
myhero1cfhowlett: the reason i am asking this is coz i have see ubuntu getting stuck many times with no response at all so that i have t boot it up to work again.....so performance and stability is what i prefer rather then look and feel05:59
Elesamyhero1: I'd choose Xubuntu then.05:59
myhero1Elesa: THNX05:59
Elesamyhero1: Good balance between performance and looks, but performance overall.05:59
ElesaNp. xD05:59
Elesalotuspsychje: Okie.06:00
cfhowlettmyhero1: inclined to agree.  XFCE has been very well behaved on my system.06:00
myhero1Elesa: yeah...if lloks are gud then its better but i dont wanna compromise performance for nothing06:00
myhero1cfhowlett: thnx06:00
Elesamyhero1: then you'll like it, because Xubuntu can be pretty, too. :D06:01
myhero1so now i m inclining towards xubntu....06:01
lotuspsychjeAnusien:still here mate?06:01
myherosrry i got dc......any msgs inbetween ??06:02
Elesamyhero1: Ubuntu is mostly for newer PC's, it's not meant to be installed in a 10 years old machine, just like you'd expect with Windows 7 or Mac OS X: Mountain Lion, even if Ubuntu has lower requirements. Kubuntu is also a good option for newer PC's, but it's a bit bloated IMO and it can be a bit complicated if you prefer simplicity over customizing EVERYTHING, and Lubuntu is a excellent option for older systems, as it's blazing fast.06:03
htmlinprogresshi06:04
Elesamyhero: And Xubuntu has the best of the two worlds, good looks and fast performance while keeping compatible with most never stuff and not compromising anything.06:04
myheroElesa: thnx06:04
luftikussHow can I determine my current window manager?06:04
myheroi have old and new systems both with laptops and desktops06:04
Psi-Jackluftikuss: ps06:04
wilee-nileeluftikuss, what is the desktop?06:05
myherocurrently i m on quad core i3 hp g6 lappy06:05
rabbi1cfhowlett: yeah, ok.... now how can i test for this hanging problem ?06:05
lotuspsychjeluftikuss: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP06:05
Elesamyhero: just go for Xubuntu then. If you want to use Unity, just use sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or download it from the Software Center or Synaptic if you don't feel comfortable in the command line.06:06
myheroi m confortable with terminal06:06
myheroand does xubuntu supports ubuntu repos ??06:07
lotuspsychjeluftikuss:full info env on terminal06:07
ElesaIt uses the same repos!06:07
stripehi all is this the ubuntu help channel?06:07
Elesastripe: It is.06:07
Psi-Jackstripe: Nope. That's down the hall and to the right.06:07
myherolol06:07
ElesaDon't worry about repositories, all Ubuntu variants share the same repos.06:08
myheropsycho joke....looks like he is gone to other gully....06:08
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stripethanks Elesa , does anyone know how to change the resolution of the log in screen in 12.04.1, the desktop is controlled by the nvidia panel06:09
myheroElesa: ok...bu ti saw many apps repos available like for ubuntu for xubutnu for kubuntu.....etc06:09
Elesamyhero: huh?06:09
lotuspsychje!xrandr | stripe06:09
ubottustripe: XRandR 1.2 is the new method of running dual screens in !X.  Information/HowTo here: http://wiki.debian.org/XStrikeForce/HowToRandR1206:09
Elesa!synaptic06:10
ubottuA Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto06:10
almaakwhy is it i can allways log into #ubuntu servers but never any other irc servers??06:10
myheroElesa: for example...ubuntu restricted xtras...then xubuntu restricted xtras...then kubuntu restricted xtras....06:10
lotuspsychjealmaak:what error you getting trying connecting?06:11
Elesamyhero: you could just look for restricted extras in the Software Center.06:11
myheroElesa: so if i save debs for ubuntnu restricted xtras then they will be installed on xubuntu or not ???06:11
ElesaThey will, but I'd just get xubuntu-restricted-extras o.o06:12
myheroReceived CTCP 'VERSION' (to myhero1) from frigg.......what does this mean ???06:13
stripeubottu, I am only running one screen, its just when I want to change the user the login screen is unusable due to the resolution of the login screen being to big for my screen (bits hanging over the edge)06:13
ubottustripe: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:13
myherolol06:13
stripelol06:13
ElesaLOL06:13
ElesaWow.. xD06:13
raymondI'm trying to get seamlessrdp working with windows 7.  I'm having problem getting the "-s" option working with rdesktop connecting to my vm, it seems to ignore the -s option, even though I'm giving a valid path to the seamlessrdp.exe program.  I've tried googling but I couldn't find a solution... I scoured the group policy editor looking for an option I could turn on... and nothing. Has anyone had this problem before?06:14
myheroubottu should also send his intro with his intelligent msg coz newbies dont understand how intelligent it is....06:14
ubottumyhero: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)06:14
N03lzgr: hello06:14
myherolol06:14
Psi-Jackraymond: ##windows is your channel for that.06:14
robertzaccourHow come in Ubuntu when I install gnome-shell, right-click works just fine on the desktop, but in ubuntu gnome-shell remix it does not?06:15
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Elesarobertzaccour: Honestly, I think GNOME Shell is a joke, and a pretty toy. >__>06:16
Elesarobertzaccour: Where is double click not working? Desktop? Top panel?06:16
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, you install the remix or ubuntu, it doesn't go on ubuntu I believe.06:17
robertzaccourElesa: right clicking on the wallpaper itself to bring up option settings06:17
Elesarobertzaccour: Guess what.. GNOME SHELL HAS NO DESKTOP! YAY! .__.06:17
myheroElesa: what u'll say about mint....someone just suggested it in pm06:17
ElesaYou have to change it on System Settings.06:17
toobluescdo it06:18
robertzaccourElesa: it works fine when insstalled on Ubuntu, but not in Gnome Shell Remix itself. What could the difference be?06:18
robertzaccour*installed06:18
niranjanHi there, trying to use find command to find executable in my project. Using find . -executable -name "whatIamLooking" but it includes directories. How do I exclude directories06:18
someprimetimei just reconfigured my postfix settings and added the domain that i'm sending mail from to the list of allowed domains that mail will be sent from and i'm finding that using php's mail() still sends all my emails to my spam folder06:18
ElesaOh.. I don't know, older GNOME Shell version maybe? I haven't used it a lot, so I'm just guessing, sorry. But honestly, if you want to use GNOME 3 in a better way, just install Cinnamon.06:19
Elesamyhero: that is a good option too.06:19
smwniranjan, -type f ?06:19
smwniranjan, that is what comes off the top of my head.06:19
niranjansmw: Thanks it works, feel so stuipd, I knew about -f06:19
wilee-nileebad advice with a user not even knowing what the other is talking about Elesa06:19
myheroElesa: yea..he suggested mint with cinnamon06:19
niranjanThanks06:19
codemaniacniranjan: your find commandline searches into the current dir only .06:19
niranjanYes, I know which directory to look for06:20
niranjanBut its too deep06:20
codemaniacniranjan: you need to orivide the path to find06:20
wilee-nileethis is gnome-shell-remix and it is not supported here. http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/download/06:20
codemaniacfind /path/to/dir like that06:21
robertzaccourElesa: I don't really like cinnamon or unity tbh06:21
niranjancodemaniac: thank you.06:21
codemaniacfind /path/to/dir -name "binfile" -print like that06:21
myherorobertzaccour: y not...any problems with cinnamon ?? unity i can understand...06:21
Elesamyhero: Does your graphics card support 3D acceleration?06:21
jeeprobertzaccour: fluxbox is what ubuntu users use when they get older ;)06:21
myheroElesa:  yeah.....it seems so ...its xfx raedeon hd487006:22
ElesaIs it normal for a simple partition resize to take more than 1 hour? I'm resizing a 300 GB partition to 150 GB >_>06:22
Elesamyhero: you could try it then, but Linux Mint with Cinnamon is not supported here. xD06:23
robertzaccourmyhero: I just prefer gnome-shell. I love how its so simplistic and "out of the way". Also like being able to click on something, drag it into the upper left corner, and drop it into one of the "expose style" windows of open apps displayed on the screen.06:23
myherorobertzaccour: i agree...06:24
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, I would use the ubuntu install of gnome-shell the remix ix not supported here.06:24
wilee-nileeis*06:24
myheroElesa: pm..06:25
dannywhat was the last Ubuntu release to ship with plain old Gnome 2?06:25
Elesa11.0406:25
robertzaccourwilee-nilee: I know, I was just curious why shell is slightly more functional when installed in Ubuntu than in Ubuntu Gnome Shell Remix itself. The right-clicking on the desktop wallpaper I mean.06:26
dannythanks Elesa06:26
SorcererXanyone experienced Ubuntu LTS 12.04.1 making a system completely unable to post? I have two laptops (Samsung 530U3C that I booted from a USB stick created from usb-creator-gtk out of the ubuntu iso) and when I pressed "Install" in grub, the system just worked for a while, showed a blank screen.. and I had to use the button to power it down, and the system never showed the BIOS screen when the power button was pressed (the power LED do06:27
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, Install the gnome-tweak tool it may be something to do with nautilus controlling the desktop, there is a switch in the tweak.06:27
ElesaYes?06:27
Psi-JackSorcererX: Unable to "post?"06:27
SorcererXso I thought I had a faulty laptop, got a new one, tried the Ubuntu install, and that system is now unpostable too06:27
SorcererXPsi-Jack: it does not show the Samsung BIOS screen06:27
Elesadanny: for what?06:27
SorcererXthe screen does not turn on06:27
Psi-JackSorcererX: That's not related to Linux at all.06:27
robertzaccourwilee-nilee: oh ok thanks. I plan on adding the min/max buttons anyways06:27
SorcererXPsi-Jack: that is what I thought, untill I tried to install it on a second laptop06:28
SorcererXbut yes, I doubt it is Linuxs fault, but there must be something weird that it does06:28
wilee-nileerobertzaccour, I wiuld support you here but some might not is all. ;)06:28
Psi-JackSorcererX: Should look into BIOS updates.06:28
wilee-nileewould*06:28
SorcererXPsi-Jack: it is not possible to update the BIOS, the system does not get that far.06:28
dannyElesa, i asked what the last ubuntu release to ship with plain old gnome 2 was and you said 11.0.406:28
raymondSorcererX, so, you're not getting any logo at all?06:29
tiger_how do i disable journaling in xfs ?06:29
Elesadanny: oh right.. lol, no problem!06:29
Psi-Jacktiger_: ALways a horrible idea.06:29
SorcererXraymond: no, no power to the screen, and external display shows nothing06:29
raymondSorcererX, wow.  tried the battery trick?  Unplug the laptop, pop out the battery.  Hold the power button down for about 30 seconds to a minute, then plug the laptop in w/o the battery and try to turn it on.06:30
tiger_Psi-Jack: Have any idea ?06:30
SorcererXraymond: I am guessing it must have wrote something to the internal SSD (not user serviceable) that the system just refuses to start from, that is about the only thing that is writeable06:30
SorcererXraymond: yes, I have tried that too06:30
Psi-Jacktiger_: You don't. XFS is a journaling filesystem.06:30
if124tiger_ : Why would you want to do that06:30
if124?06:30
ElesaIs it normal for a simple partition resize to take more than 1 hour? I'm resizing a 300 GB partition to 150 GB >_>06:31
SorcererXElesa: yes.06:31
Elesa=/06:32
tiger_Psi-Jack: I had my gentoo system installed on flash driver06:32
SorcererXraymond: I suppose I will have to send an email to Samsung first, as there is no point in getting a third laptop and having the same thing happen again. heh06:32
scott_zdoes anyone know anything about the classicmenu-indicator?06:32
if124tiger_: see this email http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2009-01/msg01155.html06:32
Psi-Jacktiger_: That's nice. Point?06:32
tiger_Psi-Jack: with xfs06:32
Psi-Jacktiger_: And?06:33
tiger_and I dont want have hight i/o operation06:33
Psi-Jacktiger_: That's nice. But XFS is a journaling filesystem. The journal is /part/ of it, unlike ext3/4 where it's optional.06:34
napsterElesa: If you have data in that partition it could take time06:34
Psi-Jackjournaling doesn't really add any i/o overhead, either.06:34
Elesawell, it has 148 GB of data06:34
DanTheBeastManMy wireless is running on eth0, any idea how to change it to wlan0?06:35
napsterElesa: So it will take time usually06:35
tiger_Psi-Jack: Ok,  maybe i can changed it to ext4 filesystem.06:35
napsterDanTheBeastMan: Why should you do that?06:36
wilee-nileeElesa, Yeah especially if you reduce it to 2 gigs more than the data, not a wise move really, any partition should be at the most abot 70% full to run efficiently.06:36
freezysDanTheBeastMan, same problem with me :(06:36
DanTheBeastMannapster: well for one, a few programs I use won't measure signal strenth from what it thinks is a wired connection06:37
Elesawilee-nilee: I see.. I just wanted to copy /home from it to a new partition and tell the installer to use that new partition as /home.. sigh06:37
DanTheBeastManinterestingly, Debian and Arch all configure it correctly on wlan006:37
napsterDanTheBeastMan: Its actually just a nam06:38
napster*name06:38
wilee-nileeElesa, You will probably be okay it just takes awhile to resize that much.06:38
ElesaI hope so, because I'm growing tired..06:39
lauratikacan open vpn make some websites wont load at all?06:40
myhero1Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to myhero1) from frigg....what it means...coming everytime i connect with irc network06:41
DanTheBeastManwell, neither conky or awesome correctly display wireless strength when wireless is running on ethX. boot into Debian, wireless runs on wlan0, both programs work as expected06:41
lauratikais there a openvpn channel?06:42
ElesaAnd it's done! <306:43
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codemaniacmyhero1: it is a utility bot at this network , nothing to worry about06:46
ramsrambotrying to install ubuntu on a HDD with win 7 prof and Win 8 on VHD --- Ubuntu does not recognize any partitions on the win HDD need help06:46
myhero1ok06:46
johnjacobjingerhomg something terrible just happened... i bought a brand new Dell Precision M4700... i was so excited to finally get it and of course right away got ubuntu ready.. well long story short on my way up the stairs to go get my ubuntu disk.. i was carrying my laptop and all of the sudden i dropped it and it tumbled 3 flights of stairs... now it's all messed up06:47
johnjacobjingerh:-(06:47
codemaniacit checks if your irc client has some sucurity flaws myhero106:47
myhero1ok06:47
jeepjohnjacobjingerh: is the ubuntu disk ok ?06:48
myhero1codemaniac: so how i know if there is any flaw into it or not ?06:48
johnjacobjingerhjeep.. yes06:48
myhero1Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to myhero1) from frigg06:48
codemaniacmyhero1: you dont need to , frigg will tell if you have one06:48
codemaniac:)06:48
johnjacobjingerhdell not so much...  good thing i took the accidental protection06:48
myhero1coellobranco: if it doent tells anything then it means i m ok......and before i never got that message06:49
johnjacobjingerhbut they want me to send it into the repair place to get fixed06:49
ShapeShifter499hi06:49
johnjacobjingerhbleh06:49
myhero1codemaniac:  if it doent tells anything then it means i m ok......and before i never got that message06:49
jeepjohnjacobjingerh: so in a week or two when you have it back .. then you can install ubuntu06:49
ElesaI have a big question, why does Nautilus say that this computer's two home folders are like 60 GB together, yet they are 142 GB when I try to copy them? >__>06:49
johnjacobjingerhyea, but i remember dell use to come to u to fix it06:49
codemaniacmyhero1: its ok if it does not twll anything ,06:49
ramsrambotrying to install ubuntu on a HDD with win 7 prof and Win 8 on VHD --- Ubuntu does not recognize any partitions on the win HDD need help06:49
johnjacobjingerh:-\06:49
ElesaDeja Dup's backup was even less than that.06:49
myhero1codemaniac: ok06:50
randihey guys/gals.. happen to be any wifi gurus in here?06:50
johnjacobjingerhramsramdo what is the virtual program u are using?06:50
codemaniacit was brought back from sleep after some years :)06:50
randiI have checked out every website on the interwebz trying to figure soemthing out06:50
ShapeShifter499I see ubuntu just released the newest kernel 3.5 on ubuntu 12.04 is this different then the 3.5 found at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?06:50
ramsrambojohn: I am using a VHD06:50
DanTheBeastManrandi: what is your problem06:51
johnjacobjingerhramsrambo, yes.. what created the vhd? VMWARE? Virtual PC? VBOX?06:51
myhero1randi: wer u frm ??06:51
randiI am currently not getting an option for wireless at all and when I run iwconfig wlan0 does not show up06:51
randiatlanta06:51
ramsramboJohn: microsoft win 706:51
* johnjacobjingerh smacks head06:51
ramsrambojohn : created the VHD06:52
jeepShapeShifter499: im gonna guess different06:52
randimyhero1: lol don't tell me that I know you06:52
jeepShapeShifter499: kernels are pretty easy to compile try the newest from kernel.org its fun !06:52
johnjacobjingerhramsrambo are you trying to run ubuntu inside Windows?06:52
DanTheBeastManrandi: post results of `lspci|grep -i network`06:52
ElesaI have a big question, why does Nautilus say that this computer's two home folders are like 60 GB together, yet they are 142 GB when I try to copy them? >__>06:52
myhero1randi: lo...no not at all06:52
myhero1lol*06:52
johnjacobjingerhramsrambo, i.e. at the same time as windows in side a virtual machine06:52
randiDanTheBeastMan, nothing shows up at all06:53
Aussie_Matthi all, does anyone have experience with software raid?06:53
ramsrambojohn :  no a seprate partition was created with disk mgmt in Win 706:54
johnjacobjingerhah yea.. dont do that06:54
DanTheBeastManrandi: pastebin `lspci -kvv`06:54
johnjacobjingerhthat wont work ramsrambo... they are VIRTUAL hard disks06:54
ShapeShifter499jeep, would this mean that its has been edited for better ubuntu compatibility now since its release at  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?06:54
johnjacobjingerhthey arent real.. u want to partition the hard drive with gparted or something06:54
ramsrambojohn :  well I able to dual boot my machine from VHD06:55
johnjacobjingerhno you cant06:55
johnjacobjingerhvhds are for virtual machines06:55
johnjacobjingerhu are not running it inside windows, you want to run it seperately06:55
ramsrambojohn :  I have been booting that from a long time now06:55
ShapeShifter499I'm just looking for the best and newest06:55
DanTheBeastManit is possible to have grub boot a virtualbox image06:55
jeepShapeShifter499: only way to know is to read the changelog06:56
jeepShapeShifter499: its safe to assume they wouldnt make it worse06:56
johnjacobjingerhi dont understand how that can be ramsrambo06:56
ramsrambojohn :  when I start my machine I am prompted with a selection menu for Win 7 and Win 806:56
johnjacobjingerhok well perhaps VHD is the wrong term then?06:57
johnjacobjingerhcuz a VHD is a "Virtual Hard Drive"06:57
johnjacobjingerhusually used by virtual machines...06:57
randiDanTheBeastMan, http://pastebin.com/3TN4wYXa06:57
johnjacobjingerhu have actual physical partitions06:57
ramsramboJohn :  that is corrected it is mounted as VHD in disk mgmt and assigned a drive letter06:57
johnjacobjingerhramsrambo, have u tried to see the partitions with gparted before installing with windows?06:58
mohithi, I sometimes cannot load ubuntu during startup,  it gets stuck at ubuntu loading screen for long time, untill i restart. I am having dual boot: ubuntu 12.04 and windows 7 on sony vaio vpceh.  Moreover, I loads up on the restart.06:58
ShapeShifter499jeep but I'm kind of scared of touching my system now, I installed the latest 3.6 you can find at  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ plus the bleeding edge graphics from the xorg-edgers PPA and I'm crossing my fingers but I haven't had a crash or unexpected shutdown yet06:58
ramsramboJohn : on the physical drive it will be one huge file only on the NTFS06:58
ElesaI have a big question, why does Nautilus say that this computer's two home folders are like 60 GB together, yet they are 142 GB when I try to copy them? >__>06:58
johnjacobjingerhyes exactly cuz you didnt make physical partitions ramsrambo06:59
johnjacobjingerhyou made VIRTUAL partitions06:59
johnjacobjingerhwhich only windows 7 can see06:59
johnjacobjingerhsince thats what you created them in06:59
johnjacobjingerhu need to physically partition the drive06:59
johnjacobjingerhnot use VHD06:59
ramsramboJohn : it is 1 single disk of 500gb07:00
johnjacobjingerhyes so partition it07:00
johnjacobjingerhwith gparted07:00
johnjacobjingerhVHD is not what you think it is07:00
johnjacobjingerhit's virtually partitioning it, not physically partition it07:00
ramsrambojohn : so I shrunk the partition to get the free space and I made that free space as vhd and mounted it on disk mgmt07:00
johnjacobjingerhyes but inside WINDOWS07:00
johnjacobjingerhthat wont work07:00
johnjacobjingerhcuz it's not a real partition07:01
johnjacobjingerhit's virtual07:01
johnjacobjingerhonly windows can see07:01
FloodBot1johnjacobjingerh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.07:01
jeepShapeShifter499: you should be fine  if there is somethign drastic gonna happen its usually at boot07:01
ramsrambojohn : I have made it bootable and it is working fine07:01
johnjacobjingerhunless someone here corrects me07:01
johnjacobjingerhbut i'm sure using disk management to partition it wont work like that (if it's a VHD)07:01
randiDanTheBeastMan, I am using a Netgear WNDA3100 v2 usb wifi adapter if that helps at all07:02
ramsrambojohn : I have again shrunk the HDD to get free space of 40 gb07:02
johnjacobjingerhramsrambo, you said it wasnt working?07:02
ramsramboJohn : I want ubuntu to be installed on this free space of 40gb07:02
DanTheBeastManrandi: oh snaps, well this explains a lot. I trust you've googled for linux drivers?07:02
johnjacobjingerhif gparted is only sees it as 1 whole 500GB then you didnt partition it07:03
randiyes07:03
johnjacobjingerhhence why you cant install ubuntu the way you want to07:03
johnjacobjingerhbest to create the partitions with gparted07:03
ramsrambojohn : when I boot to live CD ubuntu is not recognizing that free space or any partition created in Windows07:03
johnjacobjingerhnot windows disk manager07:03
johnjacobjingerhyes cuz it was created in Windows07:03
randiDanTheBeastMan, I've seen about a thousand different ways to fix it but none have worked07:03
johnjacobjingerhthey arent really there07:03
johnjacobjingerhonly windows can see them, thats how virtual hard drives work07:03
ShapeShifter499jeep, I'll give them a test then07:04
johnjacobjingerhyou didnt make it a physical or logical partition07:04
ramsramboJohn : but the partitions are existing on that HDD07:04
ShapeShifter499I'll leave the 3.6 installed just in case, so I can go back to those if something goes wrong07:04
johnjacobjingerhno they aren't only in windows07:04
johnjacobjingerhwindows is FAKING them07:04
randiDanTheBeastMan, I last tried the windows drivers straight from netgears website and installing with ndiswrapper07:04
johnjacobjingerhhence why no other partition utility can see them07:04
johnjacobjingerhtry it with gparted you'll see the difference07:05
ramsramboJohn :  nope How do I make that physical or logical now?07:05
johnjacobjingerhwell for one i'd remove the 40GB you created in windows from within windows07:05
johnjacobjingerhget it back to one partition if you can07:05
DanTheBeastManrandi: ndiswrapper will be your best bet. there is likely no other way to get them working. if it were me I'd invest in a new adapter.07:05
johnjacobjingerhthen boot from gparted and create the partition and format it as EXT407:06
randiany recommendations?07:06
johnjacobjingerhit wont delete any files it'll just physically partition the disk for you07:06
johnjacobjingerhu just tell it how large you want it to be07:06
ramsramboJohn : from the live CD I have opened the gparted and it does not see any partition at all07:06
johnjacobjingerhjust one right?07:06
tkingwhen i boot into gnome it i can't see the dashboard and task manager. and contrl + alt +  t doesn't bring out terminal. It takes time to load things. So i just tried booting into gnome classic to be able to do anything and connect to the internet07:06
johnjacobjingerhif it only sees one just right click on it and click resize.. shrink it so that the unallocated space becomes 40GB07:07
ramsrambojohn : no solution other than formating the HDD and create partitions for each from gparted ?07:07
johnjacobjingerhbut ramsrambo before you do that u want to make sure windows has the VHD removed... it will suck to have to remove it later07:08
johnjacobjingerhramsrambo, what you dont need to format07:08
johnjacobjingerhare you reading what i wrote07:08
johnjacobjingerhresize the 500 GB partition07:08
ramsrambook!07:08
johnjacobjingerhresize the 500GB to 460GB07:08
johnjacobjingerhyou will be left with an unallocated partition of 40GB07:08
ramsrambokk!07:08
johnjacobjingerhbut before you resize in gparted remove the partition in Windows07:09
johnjacobjingerhotherwise it'll be a mess when you go back to windows07:09
ramsrambosure I will07:09
ramsrambothanks john07:09
mohitwhy doesn't ubuntu fails to load during startup?07:09
johnjacobjingerhin Gparted it shows how much of the 500GB is currently used... you cant resize below that obviously07:10
raymondmohit, new install?07:12
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tkingplease how do i fix ubuntu gnome? dash doesn't come up on boot and also task bar doesn't load07:16
Happy_Larryhi07:18
maohi , how to get a sn for a dell poweredge service from shell07:18
maohi , how to get sn for a dell poweredge service from shell07:18
Happy_Larrysn?07:19
maoserial number07:19
maoHappy_Larry: serial number07:19
Happy_Larrysorry dont know :(07:20
aabwhat is a kernel header?07:21
cihhanAnyone using Sigar?07:22
Happy_LarryKernel headers are the C listing of uncompiled kernel07:25
bekksHappy_Larry: Not exactly ;) That would be the source itself.07:26
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sulaimanHi, how can I install the git-daemon in ubuntu?07:29
cihhanIs there anyone who has ever used Sigar or collectl for monitoring the resource usage?07:32
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tkinghow do i check the version of gnome?07:41
codemaniactking: gnome-shell --version07:44
mithranhai i am using linux in my office. There is a firewall in ou network server named keriocontroll. It blocks my sites.Kerio is a windows based software. how can i proxy it07:53
mithranam Usung UBUNTU 12.04 LTS07:54
mithrancan you help[ me07:59
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sstamithran: you can try ntlmaps (works for websense), but I've never seen keriocontrol in action, so it might not there08:05
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tkinghow do i paste a screenshot here08:11
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mathihi08:12
mathihow can I check if I have cUrl installed ?08:12
gordonjcpmathi: type in curl and hit return08:13
tkingNeo17 please how do i paste screenshot here?08:13
Calinoutking, upload to a place like imgur.com08:13
mathigordonjcp, thanks!08:13
mathigordonjcp, is this correct to do?   sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev08:14
gordonjcpmathi: depends what you're trying to do08:14
gordonjcpare you trying to compile something that uses curl?08:14
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mathigordonjcp, http://www.asteriskdocs.org/en/3rd_Edition/asterisk-book-html-chunk/IVR_id246940.html08:14
mathiit is written there08:15
mathibut I'm afraid that it would install an old version, not sure if they update the docs for that08:15
gordonjcpmathi: yeah, that'll work08:15
gordonjcpit should pull in a bunch of stuff08:15
tkinghttp://imgur.com/7BEFE please can someone help me i can't see the launcher and nautilus... all i see is Activities. everything has gone hidden under Activities when i reboot08:15
mathigordonjcp, what is pull in?08:15
gordonjcpit will install lots of other things08:16
mathiah oki08:16
mathigordonjcp, what about the version 4 ?08:16
mathii see on curl website it's like 708:16
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bekksmathi: Then take a look at the version of that package: 7.2208:17
bekksPretty current I'd say. :)08:17
mathianyway when I try the comand from the docs: sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev, I get: "libcurl4-openssl-dev is already the newest version."08:19
mathiand if I type curl in the command line, I get:08:19
bekksmathi: Then the latest version from the repos is installed.08:19
mathiThe program 'curl' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:08:19
mathisudo apt-get install curl08:19
mathiah08:19
mathibekks, then why it says curl is not installed ?08:20
tkinghttp://imgur.com/7BEFE please can someone help me i can't see the launcher and nautilus... all i see is Activities. everything has gone hidden under Activities when i reboot08:22
bekksbecause "libcurl..." does not provide "curl".08:23
bekksat least the -dev packages dont do.08:23
baizontking: this isnt unity, ist gnome-shell08:24
user82tking i do not exactly understand the question...the launcher=the side bar with app icons(i assume) and what do you mean by "got hidden under activities"08:24
bekksmathi: apt-get install curl08:24
mathibekks, ok I am installing, but I wonder why in asterisk docs only "sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev" is mentionned08:25
bekksmathi: Because the need the -dev ackage contents maybe.08:25
mathithank you for helping:)08:27
tkinguser82 i think am in gnome shell, i want to go back to unity08:29
user82uh yes tking....that solves the "problem". and explains why i was confused08:30
tkinguser82 normally, i see nautilus, launcher but for some reason all that disappeared and changed to this ACTIVITIES screen thing maybe its called Gnome Shell as i have searched, but I cant swtich bacl any idea or help?08:31
user82tking log out and then above your name in the logon screen there should be a round icon08:32
user82tking http://cdn-static.zdnet.com/i/story/40/10/024840/trk-lightdm.jpg08:33
user82then choose "ubuntu"08:33
tkinguser82 thanks, i have done it, but i lost my settings and usually by default i think i am in Gnome maybe08:36
tkingbefore, i am able to see  goto desktop and i have made icons in launcher smaller, but sellecting ubuntu, i lost all settings08:37
user82tking for me it saves the last setting automatically. maybe there is some setting that always gets you into gnome but i do not know where to find it...08:37
rymate1234hey guys08:38
rymate1234I want a global menu bar in xfce08:38
rymate1234Like there is in unity08:38
user82tking are you sure you chose "ubuntu" and not "ubuntu 2d"?08:38
rymate1234How would one achieve this?08:38
tkinguser82 http://askubuntu.com/questions/79731/how-can-i-switch-between-gnome-shell-and-unity-without-logging-off this is what i did08:39
PeterGriffinHow can I find out which version of apache is installed on the system?08:39
bekksapache2 -v08:40
PeterGriffinbekks: Thank you :)08:40
user82tking uhm yeah the thing with --replace is that it is temporarily. so when you reboot it has saved the setting "i used gnome last time"08:40
tkingwhat you asked me to do, i have done it before. It worked. but its different from how i have been using it in the past 5months because, i have compiz installed and amy customization are active. All that i lost when i did a reboot and didn't know how i got to the Gnome-Shell08:40
user82the proper solution might me to log-on again(or reboot but not needed log out log in does the job)08:41
tkingok08:41
mathibekks, it seems I need to recompile asterisk after instzlling curl module, I need to type make, then make install somewhere, but I have no idea where to execute these08:41
bekksmathi: I never used asterisk, sorry.08:42
theadminmathi: Wherever the source-code is located.08:42
dipole_0qu908:44
rymate1234I shall reiterate my question08:45
rymate1234I wish to have a global menu like in unity on xfce. How would I go about doing this? I am running ubuntu 12.0408:45
theadminrymate1234: There is xfce4-globalmenu, but I suppose it's not in the repos. Also, I think it doesn't work with recent Xfce versions (might be fixed by now though)08:46
rymate1234ok thankks08:46
rymate1234where could I find the source code for it?08:46
theadminrymate1234: Try searching for it, never been a fan of globalmenu myself08:47
rymate1234found it08:47
ceborcan i add a seccond hostname to /etc/hosts ? and is this available in network ??08:52
bekksIt is available on the host where you edited /etc/hosts only.08:52
wolfslordI'm having a strange problem with chrome. Can anybody help me?08:53
bekksWe dont know without knowing the problem.08:53
theadmincebor: Sure you can. The general syntax is "ip-address host-name-list-separated-by-spaces", for instance, "127.0.0.1 localhost black-mesa-east", however, it will only be available on the computer the hosts file resides on.08:53
ceborok, should i use 127.0.1.1 or 127.0.0.1 as ip ?08:54
AutistiCucumberHey guys08:54
ceborah, the thing what i do is, i want more than one apache alias08:54
wolfslordok. I bought a webcam a few days ago. Now when I open chrome with the webcam connected to the computer chrome tries, god knows why, to access the cam repeatedly and becomes laggy also avoiding other programs t use the camera.08:54
theadmincebor: Should look into Apache configuration then (virtualhosts or whatever)08:55
bekkscebor: Errm. 127.x.x.x is you localhost - it is useless to add it.08:55
ceboryes i know08:55
ceborbut i need 2 diffrent apaches: 1. http://mypc  and http://mypc-alias08:56
ceborok mom, i try08:56
bekksThen do the following in the /etc/hosts: w.x.y.z mypc mypc-alias08:57
bharathwhen I started my ubuntu 11.10 it gets stucked and it shos only purple screen.can anyone help me regarding this?08:57
bekksAnd replace w.x.y.z with your IP.08:57
wolfslordbekks: so can you help?08:57
cdjhello all08:57
ceborfor availabilty in network i must add it to my dns settings ?08:58
bekkswolfslord: Sorry, no. Neither I have a webcom nor am I using Chrome.08:58
bekkscebor: No.08:58
cebori have a dns server in net08:58
newbie|2hello08:58
wolfslordbekks: ok08:58
bekkscebor: Then, yes :)08:58
newbie|2I feel like a break from googling, so here I am08:58
MrWubblesShit Wolf Get It Together.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMTzptfQSKw08:58
newbie|2Which ubuntu channel do I go to for help specifically with a server install?08:59
bekksnewbie|2: Every ubuntu - as long as it has a "server edition".09:00
newbie|2yes, it's the server edition09:00
gordonjcpMrWubbles: I don't get it, it's just nonsense09:00
bekksgordonjcp: He is spamming.09:00
theadminnewbie|2: There is #ubuntu-server, however questions with any officialy supported Ubuntu derivative (that being Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Education (Edubuntu) and Ubuntu Studio) are welcome here09:00
newbie|2ALRIGHT!09:01
newbie|2so, I've just reinstalled my vps to an install of ubuntu server 10.04 LTS  with 128mb of ram. My first question is: Should I reduce the resource requirements of 10.04, or install 12.04?09:02
AutistiCucumberCan't wait for gnomebuntu09:02
bekksnewbie|2: Thata really not much. And I guess far too less to be used with Ubuntu.09:03
theadminbekks: Fine for a server methinks...09:03
ssta128M is a bit small09:03
theadminbekks: It's the GUIs that are hungry09:03
sstadepending on what you want it to do09:03
newbie|2i only want to run a voice server on it09:03
bekkstheadmin: My server have about 128GB ;)09:03
newbie|2mumble09:03
AutistiCucumberXfce best for server09:03
newbie|2and then maybe a wiki, but that's something to consider later09:03
bekksAutistiCucumber: a gui is NEVER "best" for a server.09:03
sstaservers shouldn't have a gui09:03
theadminAutistiCucumber: ...Crazy! Servers should have NO gui whatsoever09:03
gordonjcpnewbie|2: 128MB ought to be enough for a webserver and a mailserver09:03
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AutistiCucumberOf course09:04
MrWubblesNetBSD09:04
MrWubblesthat is all09:04
sstanewbie|2: if you need to run a database server as well as a webserver then 128M is going to be tight imo09:04
gordonjcpnewbie|2: you could try mumble on it09:04
gordonjcpnewbie|2: how hard is it to get more memory allocated?09:04
newbie|2yeah, I installed moodle on before09:04
newbie|2had to push ram up to 512mb in order to get it fast09:04
newbie|2but that was on 12.0409:04
sstanewbie|2: is it a cost thing?  Personally I wouldn't consider a server with less than 1G...but YMMV09:05
newbie|2very easy09:05
newbie|2I can add memory in 1 minute09:05
gordonjcpnewbie|2: there's not really a *huge* difference in the amount of memory required between 10.04 and 12.04, particularly for servers09:05
newbie|2okay, so I think I'll stick with 10.04 for now09:05
bekksnewbie|2: I'd use 12.0409:06
bekksnewbie|2: And get about 512M.09:06
newbie|2I intend to do that later09:06
newbie|2is there anything I can remove from 10.04 to reduce memory requirements in the mean time?09:06
sstaI only have one 12.04 server (and only got that because I needed a newer libreoffice)09:06
newbie|212.04 server comes with libreoffice?09:07
bekksnewbie|2: No.09:07
bekksnewbie|2: A server never comes with office applications :)09:07
newbie|2ok09:07
sstanewbie|2: not by default.  I needed to be able to batch convert .docx to .html, which libreoffice can do...but 10.04 doesn't have a new enough version to be able to ddo it09:07
newbie|2wouldn't it have been simpler just to get the repository for the newer version?09:08
sstanewbie|2: server and desktop are basically the same....just differ in the default stuff that's installed.  Anything in desktop CAN be installed in server09:08
newbie|2makes sense09:08
sstanewbie|2: I prefer not to use external repositories on production servers09:08
newbie|2theyre both based on the same kernel after all right?09:08
bekksnewbie|2: No. Why sticking with a version thats supported until 2015 only, when there's a version thats supported until 2017? :)09:08
bekksnewbie|2: No, they arent.09:09
bekksnewbie|2: The kernel in 12.04 is about 2 years newer.09:09
ravenxubuntu 12.04 - i am using tightvncserver to access the remote machine via "virtual desktop" :1 randomly some applications crash with the message "E/A error". Disk seems ok and with another username via sux i have not theese kind of problems. could be a reason the user home dir is encrypted? how to solve that?09:09
newbie|2i meant between 10.04 and 10.04 desktop/server version09:09
bekksWhats "10.04" in that context then?09:09
newbie|2lucid lynx09:10
bekksThere are: 10.04 desktop, 10.04 server.09:10
bekksThere is no 10.04 thats neither desktop nor server.09:10
newbie|2I meant don't both desktop/server version of the same uh version, use the same kernel?(unless it's explicitly changed of course).09:10
sstayes09:10
bekksnewbie|2: Yes.09:10
newbie|2alright09:10
BoycraftRemind me what was the program from games or education category that was teaching Basic programming language? I think it was in 9.0409:10
newbie|2now that's cleared up09:10
newbie|2is there anything I can safely remove(and also, where do i go for instructions on removing things) from ubuntu to reduce ram requirements?09:11
jribnewbie|2: recently yes, but that hasn't always been true09:11
bekksnewbie|2: On a server? No :)09:11
bekksnewbie|2: On a server, only things that are needed are installed :)09:11
newbie|2alright09:12
Costeelationi can restar the unity configurarion?09:13
newbie|2well it's idling now09:13
newbie|2only eating 41mb/128mb09:13
newbie|2i guess that's okay09:13
Costeelationi have problem with the video lens :(09:13
bekksnewbie|2: Can you pastebin "free -m" please?09:13
newbie|2I'm seeing it in my vps management panel, but sure, lemme just ssh into the server09:13
sstanewbie|2: my mysql installation uses more than that...even when inactive.  128M is seriously tight imo09:14
newbie|2yeah09:14
newbie|2mysql is not installed09:14
ceborhttp://pastebin.com/XvNuE0eT is this ok? or should i add new lines for every alias ???09:14
newbie|2i heard there is a low resource version of sql09:14
newbie|2I want to keep resource usage as low as possible09:14
bekksnewbie|2: There isnt.09:14
newbie|2as this server is only for personal experimenting09:14
newbie|2I'm learning09:14
newbie|2so I'm not making any money from it09:15
ravenxubuntu 12.04 - i am using tightvncserver to access the remote machine via "virtual desktop" :1 randomly some applications crash with the message "E/A error". Disk seems ok and with another username via sux i have not theese kind of problems. could be a reason the user home dir is encrypted? how to solve that?09:15
bekksnewbie|2: Where's there output of free -m ?09:15
newbie|2sorry, I'm still getting into ssh, my password and stuffa re different due to reinstall09:15
newbie|2vps@www:~$ free -m09:18
newbie|2             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached09:18
newbie|2Mem:           143         77         65          0          1         3209:18
newbie|2-/+ buffers/cache:         43        10009:18
newbie|2Swap:          255          0        25509:18
FloodBot1newbie|2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.09:18
newbie|2sorry, I'll uise p[astebin09:18
newbie|2http://pastebin.com/GMvZ1gKj09:19
bekksCurrently, you are using 43MB, without mysql, without a webserver, etc. :)09:19
k1lnewbie|2: read that here http://www.linuxatemyram.com/09:19
_PanzerSajtHy! I have a omap4460 based tablet dual booting Ubuntu 12.04 and Android 4.0. It has a 10 point multitouch screen, but I wasn't able to get it working under ubuntu. With android it is just working fine.09:20
newbie|2is that link you just pasted, going to explain09:20
_PanzerSajtHere is the output from mtdev-test while touching with 5 fingers: paste.ubuntu.com/1194283/09:20
newbie|2that linux often uses more ram so that it can operate faster?09:20
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k1lCosteelation: unity --reset   into terminal09:21
newbie|2is ispconfig 3 a decent web control panel?09:21
Costeelationk1l:  nop, my problem is with the video lens09:21
k1l_PanzerSajt: ubuntu is not supported on tablets, yet. you will need the device specific drivers to keep everything running as expected. so better hang with the devs who made that ubuntu port for your device09:22
Costeelationk1l: i cant search youtube videos09:22
ravenxubuntu 12.04 - i am using tightvncserver to access the remote machine via "virtual desktop" :1 randomly some applications crash with the message "E/A error". Disk seems ok and with another username via sux i have not theese kind of problems. could be a reason the user home dir is encrypted? how to solve that?09:22
_PanzerSajtk1l: Ok. You said "yet". Is that mean that it will be supported? Thanks anyway09:23
newbie|2i think he means everything will be supported eventually... in the same way the NBN in australia is not rolled out, yet.09:24
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k1l_PanzerSajt: "some day" but im quite sure that the old tablets (as in the view of "some day") wont get support afterwards. so stick to the devs who made the ubuntu port09:25
Ironare there any free tutorials out there that will get me up and running with ubuntu 12.04 desktop properly, including proper usage of the terminal? I know there's the ubuntu wiki, but I was looking for something a little more structured.09:26
MoreThanANoiseHey, guys, I have such a problem.. I've installed GP6 trough wine and with installation came also files to /opt and /usr. I moved them there, but till now I am not able to start any program, or boot ubuntu. When i use console, it says command not found for any programs such as elinks, or gdm.. Can anyone help me?09:26
ShapeShifter499can someone please tell me what that "revert" button does in "software sources"?09:27
ceborhttp://pastebin.com/XvNuE0eT is this ok? or should i add new lines for every alias ???  (my /etc/hosts file)09:27
bekksShapeShifter499: It reverts your software selection you made between starting that application and pressing "apply" :)09:27
pippociao09:27
bekkscebor: Wrong :)09:28
pippo!list09:28
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bekkscebor: 127.0.0.1 hostname alias1 alias2 alias3 ...09:28
bekkscebor: No need for 127.0.1.109:28
ShapeShifter499bekks, so it doesn't mess with entries I made the last time I had opened software sources09:29
ceborah ok, but 127.0.1.1  was already there after a fresh install of ubuntu 12.0409:29
bekksShapeShifter499: Correct.09:29
bekkscebor: Then use that :)09:29
ceborok, thx09:30
ceborit works09:30
bekkscebor: There is just no need to invent localhost entries on your own ;)09:30
IronI'm getting ready to install ubuntu desktop with a unity interface onto my desktop. I'll be putting it on a 320GB hdd, I have 8GB of ram, how big should I make the swap partition?09:30
ShapeShifter499bekks, whew *wipes brow*09:30
ShapeShifter499bekks, thanks09:30
Ironoh and, how big should i make the ubuntu partition, home partition, leaving another partition for miscelaneous data.09:31
k1lIron: if you want to use suspend2disc use swap=ram. if not you can even go without swap09:31
* Iron goes to google suspend2disc09:31
ravenxubuntu 12.04 - i am using tightvncserver to access the remote machine via "virtual desktop" :1 randomly some applications crash with the message "E/A error". Disk seems ok and with another username via sux i have not theese kind of problems. could be a reason the user home dir is encrypted? how to solve that?09:31
k1lIron: "hibernation"09:31
MoreThanANoisePlease guys, I really need to solve it.. :/09:31
Ironwhen did I receive this, oh well. Thanks for the info.09:32
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: what is GP6?09:32
ShapeShifter499ok does anyone know how to get firefox to open a deb file directly with a manager?09:32
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: Guitar Pro, i don't like using TuxGuitar..09:32
ActionParsnipShapeShifter499: isn't there ubufox or somesuch package09:32
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: ok so you installed Wine and the app (please don't abbreviate application names, it slows things down). Why were you messing with /opt etc?09:33
ShapeShifter499ActionParsnip, it doen't enable deb handling :/09:33
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: There were folders, so I copied it. Now i see what a crap i did..09:34
ActionParsnipShapeShifter499: when it asks which application to open the file with, select gdebi09:34
Ironk1: So if I use hibernation, I won't use a swap? and also, where do i set swap=ram? Or, where can i find information about this subject(to avoid you repeating information available on a reputable website).09:34
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: wine apps will stay in $HOME/.wine   there is nothing else to do09:34
k1lIron: no no no09:34
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: what happens when you try to boot?09:34
ShapeShifter499ActionParsnip, oh... thats not installed09:34
ShapeShifter499ActionParsnip, lol ok I was going to because that was what firefox used the last I had ubuntu installed09:35
k1lIron: if you want to use hibernation you will need a swap partition that is that size of the ram. because the ram gets copied into the swap in case of hibernation09:35
ActionParsnipShapeShifter499: makes sense :)09:35
Ironooooooh09:35
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: Just Ubuntu load screen, neverending. When I use F1 to get to console, i am able to log in, but not to start any programs. It says command not found..09:35
Ironso if I want to use hibernation, I have to set my swap to equal or larger than ram09:35
Xubuntuhow to change time zone in ubuntu ?09:36
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: if you run:  echo $PATH    does it output a lot of stuff?09:36
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IronXubuntu: first, you eat your own hand.09:36
k1lIron: but nowadays you mostly wont need swap if you have 8gb ram (when not using hibernation). so im not having a swap with 4gb ram.09:36
ActionParsnipGuest5942: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime09:36
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: Idk, ill give it a try, I'll be back in a while.09:36
ShapeShifter499ActionParsnip, thanks for clarifying, thought there might have been a new method because it wasn't included at the beginning on my fresh ubuntu 12.04 install09:37
ActionParsnipShapeShifter499: it makes sense, I always use dpkg so I can see errors so that I can satisfy deps09:37
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ActionParsnipGuest95481: too hard: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+change+time+zone    ?09:38
ShapeShifter499ActionParsnip, ok, cool :)09:39
Ironk1: does it run faster without a swap without hibernating?09:39
k1lIron: no09:39
IronI think I'll just make an 8GB swap09:39
ActionParsnipIron: if you have 8Gb RAM and need hibernate then you'll need 8Gb swap (maybe 9 to be safe)09:40
Ironwhat file system should I use? ext4 or ext3? I read theyre both developed in parallel.09:40
Ironok thanks, I'll make it 9 to be safe.09:40
k1lIron: go with ext409:40
Ironrighto09:40
Ironhehe, I just thought of a stupid idea: install to ntfs.09:41
k1ldont do that09:41
ActionParsnipIron: ntfs cannot hold Linux permissions09:41
IronI"M GONNA DO IT09:42
ActionParsnipIron: its fine for casual data storage bt for anything intelligent it isn't suitable09:42
raven12.04 E/A errors / crashes when connecting via vnc - any ideas?09:42
Ironyeah I heard ntfs stores data on the disc sequentially while ntfs is smarter to ensure it stays fast09:42
bekksIron: It is impossible to install linux on ntfs :)09:42
ActionParsnipIron: so folders like /home should not be NTFS, although you can mount an NTFS partition to a subfolder of your $HOME and be fine09:42
IronI MEAN, ext 3 and 4 are smarter09:42
k1lok, im out of the "support" troll09:42
bekksIron: And you heard FUD about ntfs, honestly.09:42
ActionParsnipIron: its a different data structure and cannot store the ACLS and so forth of Linux, thats why if you try and chmod +x a file on a windows partition it doesn't stick09:43
IronI don't hate ntfs09:43
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: echo $PATH says just one line of directories, all at /usr/*09:45
k1lMoreThanANoise: did you delete your /usr/?09:46
MoreThanANoisek1l: I didn't.. Hope I didn't..09:46
HircineI need a little bit of help guys, I bought a new system y-day. It has UEFI instead of a BIOS. I am trying to install 64bit Ubuntu 12.04 on to it. I have tried to install from Disc and from USB(unetbootin). when I go to use the disc, after i go "Install Ubuntu" it hangs on some sort of screen distortion and offers no error messages. is there anything I need to do to get it to work properly?09:46
k1lMoreThanANoise: well you said you moved them? then boot a live-system and copy them back09:47
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: does it look something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/119433309:47
IronI'm not very good with linux but Hircine: is your name from morrowind?09:47
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: Exactly.09:47
HircineIron, Yes.09:48
Ironoh wait, I mean, Hircine: Are you using integrated graphics, and is it core i3?09:48
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: then you are ok :)09:48
HircineIron,  Core i5, Nvidia 620. using DVI.09:48
ActionParsnipHircine: what GPU do you use?09:48
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: So what am i supposed to do? It doesn't boot up, i can't run any app...09:48
Hircineits not using the Integrated graphics at all.09:49
blackshirthello09:49
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: how about if you run:  sudo service lightdm start09:49
ActionParsnipHircine: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=109:49
ActionParsnipHircine: some nvidia GPUs dislike nouveau09:49
IronI cannot help you, I am sorry. But, have you tried simply extracting the iso file to a flash drive and booting from it?09:49
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: I'll give it a try. :)09:50
bekksIron: Which will not create a bootable usb stick.09:50
Ironshh, don't tell him09:50
bekksIron: Not funny.09:50
HircineActionParsnip, thanks, I will be back soon, I only have one keyboard atm :P hopefully that will work :)09:50
Ironalright09:51
k1lIron: pls dont troll here. even when you consider to get support for youself09:52
TicoHi, what's the host to this irc?09:52
IronI'll try my best.09:52
k1lTico: you mean freenode?09:53
Ticok11: yes :) for the android irc app09:53
blackshirtirc.freenode.net09:53
Ticothanks guys :D09:54
Ticonow i can use irc easier on my phone :)09:55
blackshirtgreats tico... Congratulations.09:55
gordonjcpheh09:56
gordonjcpit blows my tiny wee mind that I can open up a shell on my phone09:56
blackshirtmaybe09:56
gordonjcpopen up a Bash shell on my pocket-sized ARM Linux computer09:56
gordonjcpthen ssh across to my VPS and attach screen09:56
Hircineon the grub option were do i put that command . append to the end? forgive my noobness.09:56
gordonjcpand do stuff on my Linux server, from the Linux computer about the size of a playing card in the palm of my hand09:57
Irondo you mean ssh?09:57
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: It says 'sudo' unknown command..09:57
raven12.04 E/A errors / crashes when connecting via vnc - any ideas?09:57
gordonjcpraven: google isn't helpful for "E/A errors"09:57
blackshirthircine, what do you want to add?09:57
gordonjcpraven: are you sure you're reading the error message correctly?09:57
Hircine<ActionParsnip> Hircine: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=109:58
ravengordonjcp applications crash randomly with E/A errors because any logs could not be written etc09:58
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gordonjcpraven: searching for "E/A errors" reveals nothing useful09:59
bekksraven: Double check wether your your encrypted home gets decrypted when logging in via vnc09:59
gordonjcpraven: can you pastebin the error you get *verbatim*?09:59
bekksraven: Then double check wether you have sufficient space, too.09:59
ravenbekks i have, how to verify the way of decrypting right?10:00
ravengordonjcp no not at the moment i have to wait until next error ^^10:00
gordonjcpraven: well, you know what to do when it comes10:00
bekksraven: No. You have to verify your encrypted home gets decrypted correctly. Just that, not the way how it works. :)10:00
ravenbekks yes that i mean - how to look for it?10:01
biopytei'd like to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04. is there any advantage making a "clean" install from the .iso over a upgrade via tye update manager?10:02
bekksraven: Use a second user thats logged in using ssh, and check what happens when the first user tries to log in.10:02
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: try /usr/bin/sudo      use the full path]#10:02
blackshirtbiopyte, you get a fresh install10:02
Hircineblackshirt, any thoughts?10:02
ravenbekks with the auth.log?10:02
ActionParsnipbiopyte: clean install will be as the OS is intended with no fluff from the old install10:03
ActionParsnipbiopyte: I always make a fresh install10:03
biopyteActionParsnip, what kind of fluff could that be ?  i assume the upgrade handler will wipe out old fluff ...10:04
biopyteorphan libs i dont see as a major problem10:04
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bekksraven: No. With "ls", to see wether the home of the first user got decrypted.10:04
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ActionParsnipbiopyte: old configs and such10:05
biopyteAction, the problem with the fresh install is that you have to reinstall your apps...10:05
ActionParsnipbiopyte: a clean install will format the partition and put only the new OS on.10:05
biopyteAction, ok ... i think about it10:06
ravenbekks ok with annother user i get no permission to view home folder of the logged in vnc-user10:06
biopytethx10:06
vishalI need solution for Ubuntu Software Center that why its not working???10:06
Wallalebianyone know what cartoon this is from? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm7oor_you-should-install-linux_lifestyle10:06
bekksraven: then sudo -i as the second user, to become root to get the permissions to take a look into the first users home.10:07
blackshirtvishal, you should describe your problems more detail10:07
ActionParsnipvishal: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade       Thansk10:07
vishalActionParsnipo: Yes! Wait10:08
ravenbekks just a moment i have to fight with visudo....10:10
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: No such file. Only directories in /usr are share and src10:11
vishalActionParsnip: it shows The following packages have been kept back:10:11
vishal  linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic10:11
vishal0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.10:11
Hircinewhere do i add nouveau.blacklist=1 ?10:11
BlueWolfHi, Is this printer supported by Linux - HP LaserJet Pro M1212nf MFP ( http://reviews.cnet.com/multifunction-devices/hp-laserjet-pro-m1212nf/4505-3181_7-33984369.html ) ?10:11
bekksvishal: Thats because you have to install new kernels manually (by explicitely installing them).10:11
bekksvishal: Expected behaviour :)10:11
bekksvishal: Solution: sudo apt-get install linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic10:12
blackshirthircine, you can add it on grub menu when you boot10:12
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: that's not good dude10:12
ActionParsnipBlueWolf: check the hplip site, should be ok10:13
CalinouBlueWolf, I suggest googling around10:13
CalinouHP is normally ok10:13
ActionParsnipbekks: if the deps cannot be met they will be kept back10:13
Hircinei tried that but it didnt work  i must be doing it wrong10:13
ravenbekks with root the user home appears as decrypted10:14
BlueWolfCalinou, ActionParsnip, Thanks will have a look10:14
IronI have a quick question: How large should I make my Home partition, is 4GB enough?10:15
Ironand, where does software get installed to? Is it the root partition?10:15
mrdiنت10:15
mrdiالسلام10:15
ActionParsnipIron: /home is where your user data is stored, it should be as big as possible. Do you mean / for installing the OS to?10:16
ravenbekks ?10:16
IronI do mean / for installing the os to10:17
mdl4*Fat Abbot voice* HAY HAY HAY WHAT'S GOIN ON Y'ALL10:17
Ironwell, we're all very confused now10:18
Ironvery confused10:18
Hircineyay got it starting  thanks blackshirt and ActionParsnip10:18
ActionParsnipHircine: nice10:18
user23How to install Proxychains GUI ? I download file, but that file is .exe10:19
ActionParsnipuser23: what does it do? There may be a native equivelant10:19
Ironcheck alternativeto.net for native equivalents10:20
blackshirtuser23, that was foe windows10:20
user23it chains a proxy servers10:20
blackshirtuser23 you should install it on windows os10:20
user23but proxychains is for linux...10:21
CalinouIron, /packaged/ software is installed in /usr usually10:21
Calinoumanually installed software, in your home folder10:21
Ironok, so that explains why i should make usr bigger than 4gb10:22
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: Any ideas how to fix it<10:22
blackshirtuser23, maybe you get wrong version for windows10:22
Calinouyou shouldn't make a separate /usr partition10:22
Calinouonly /home, and you're not forced to do so10:22
Ironwell what's going on now10:22
mevvisCalinou: what about /local >10:22
mevvis?10:22
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: I have sudo in /usr/src/bin.10:22
* Iron is confused10:22
CalinouWTF is /local?10:22
blackshirtwhy should make /usr separate10:22
* Iron attacks himself in his confusion10:22
Calinouwhy would you make a separate partition for this?10:23
Ironhow big should I make /home ?10:23
PeterGriffinI need to downgrade apaceh, mysql and php. Is this the right way? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194388/   Any information will be appreciated.10:23
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: you could try:  /usr/src/bin/sudo /usr/bin/apt-get install ubuntu-desktop10:23
blackshirtpetergriffin, nothing recommended to downgrade10:23
ravenbekks are you still there?10:24
blackshirtyou can break entite the system petergriffin10:24
PeterGriffinBut I dont have any datebase installed10:24
blackshirtnot related to database insttalled..but maybe breaks the system...10:25
PeterGriffinI have an application, that needs older versions10:26
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wisdomcan we discuss a problem ?10:30
PeterGriffinIf I don't downgrade I don't need the system. It is fresh install of Ubuntu server 12.04. I installed php, apache and mysql before I realised that I need older versions. So I just need to know if this would work http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194388/10:30
Martijn__Hi everyone - did anyone know how to install Oracle JAVA-jdk on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS??10:31
sstaMartijn__: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java10:32
BlueWolfWhere can I search for HP all in one printers that are compatible with Linux?10:32
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sstaMartijn__: in all but a very few cases though, use openjdk7.  There are very very few situations where that's not correct10:33
sstaBlueWolf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne10:34
BlueWolfssta: Thanks10:34
BlueWolf:D10:34
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s9iper1how can i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 12.10 ??10:35
jrib!quantal | s9iper110:35
ubottus9iper1: Ubuntu 12.10 (Quantal Quetzal) will be the 17th release of Ubuntu, Discussion and support until final release in #ubuntu+110:35
jribs9iper1: 12.10 is still being developed10:35
Martijn__Thank you for your great support, ssta! I wanna use the Eclipse IDE to develop some easy JAVA applications. I'm a student...10:36
Martijn__@ssta The openjdk is not developed for creating applications with Eclipse, isn't it?10:37
raven12.04 E/A errors / crashes when connecting via vnc - any ideas?10:37
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: Fatal Error, cannot load plugins for sudo..10:39
sstaMartijn__: yes10:40
s9iper1jrib: i need to upgrade there i know i am late you may not know i am a software tester so that why10:40
PeterGriffinCan anyone tell me if apt-get remove/install is a working way of downgrading php, apache and mysql?10:40
sstaMartijn__: in all but a *very* small number of cases, the openjdk is a complete replacement for the Oracle JDK.  The openjdk is planned by oracle to be the reference implemtnation10:41
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: I'd shoot for a reinstall unles s you are up for chrooting from a liveCD and reinstalling packages that way10:41
jribs9iper1: as long as you understand that 12.10 is still being developed and meant for people who want to test and help with development at this point, then #ubuntu+1 can help you with the upgrade10:41
jribPeterGriffin: why?  What exactly do you need to downgrade to and why?10:41
PeterGriffinthis is what http://openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/HP10:42
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: What does it mean chrooting?10:42
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: have a look online10:43
PeterGriffinand because i have an application, sugarCRM, an archivet database for an older version, and need to install it10:43
PeterGriffinno no10:43
PeterGriffinjrib: the link is wrong, sorry10:43
PeterGriffinjrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194388/10:44
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: Okay, I see, that's not what im into really.. I would screw it.. When i now reinstall /, do i have to set it up in some special way, when I already have /home partition?10:44
Martijn__@ssta I understand that I need to install the openjdk, right?10:45
jribPeterGriffin: well where do you plan on getting those earlier versions?10:46
PeterGriffinI havent planned this one yet10:46
jribPeterGriffin: you should do that10:46
PeterGriffinit wont happen from apt-get, will it?10:46
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: just use the 'something else' option and set the partition to be used as /home ext4 but NOT formatted10:46
MoreThanANoiseActionParsnip: Okay, thanks a lot, sorry for wasting you time.. :)10:47
jribPeterGriffin: ideally you would ask sugar crm to support the versions in ubuntu 12.04 by default.  No, you won't find the earlier versions in your pastebin in the 12.04 repositories10:47
ActionParsnipMoreThanANoise: I have all day dude :)10:47
PeterGriffinjrib: I have started to install the new version of sugar, but I realised that the base is for the older version, and the compatibility requirements say that I need these earlier versions for the earlier version of sugarcrm.10:50
ActionParsnip!info sugar10:53
ubottuPackage sugar does not exist in precise10:53
ActionParsnip!find sugar10:53
ubottuFound: libmoosex-has-sugar-perl, python-sugar-0.84, python-sugar-0.86, python-sugar-0.88, python-sugar-0.90, python-sugar-0.92, python-sugar-toolkit-0.84, python-sugar-toolkit-0.86, python-sugar-toolkit-0.88, python-sugar-toolkit-0.90 (and 46 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=sugar&searchon=names&suite=precise&section=all10:53
ActionParsnipoic10:54
no-nmoosex?10:54
jribPeterGriffin: you're on your own as far as getting those earlier versions.  You're likely going to have to compile them yourself (or maybe you can find some debs and then force apt to ignre upgrades to them). In any case, make sure those old versions don't have any security vulnerabilities.  And if they do, patch them.  Again, I strongly recommend you tell sugar crm they should be supporting the versions in10:55
jrib12.04.  Those are not bleeding edge versions.  12.04 has been around for 5 months10:55
PeterGriffinjrib: So do you think that removing newer and compiling older should work?10:58
PeterGriffindespite of the security issues10:58
jribPeterGriffin: sure.  Just don't ignore the security issues.10:59
PeterGriffinI won't. I just want to run the program and after that to update the whole set, sugar, mysql and so on.11:00
Pepe89sziasztok11:01
BarbHey all, my nautilus (version 3.4.2) seems to be missing the bookmarks pane on the left, and pressing all the preferences buttons didn't work, and my google-fu has failed me. Anyone know what's going on?11:01
Martijn__@ssta Happy Sunday, thnxs!11:01
Martijn__< out11:01
Pepe89#linux.hu11:02
Eaglemandhclient eth1 gives me an ip address but it is not assigned to the interface eth1: http://imagebin.org/22776811:02
Eagleman10.136.220.1.67 > 84.107.203.59.68: [udp sum ok] BOOTP/DHCP, Reply, length 323, xid 0x6dd46227, Flags [none] (0x0000)11:03
BarbAnyone know how to get the bookmarks pane back in nautilus?11:03
jribBarb: take a screenshot of what your nautilus currently looks like please11:04
sstaBarb: F9?11:04
Barbssta, F9 worked. Lol. Why isn't an option like that anywhere in preferences?11:05
BarbAh well, one more hotkey I know now11:05
BarbThanks guys11:05
sstaBarb: it's in the view menu somewhere IIRC11:05
vishalJrib: so what can i do now11:06
MoreThanANoisedoes anyone know any IM client (mostly for facebook) running in terminal?11:06
Eaglemandhclient eth1 gives me an ip address but it is not assigned to the interface eth1: http://imagebin.org/22776811:06
Eagleman10.136.220.1.67 > 84.107.203.59.68: [udp sum ok] BOOTP/DHCP, Reply, length 323, xid 0x6dd46227, Flags [none] (0x0000)11:06
jribvishal: I have no context for that question11:06
bonnohello i am having a problem with my torrent client transmission where sould i refer to? i searched the internet..could find anything..  i am havoing a torrent and out of the blue  it does find the peers but i cant connect to them  (has a ? in all of them)11:07
vishalJrib: My Ubuntu 12.04 Software center not installing any app. but can install through command lines11:08
ThenewinstallatoHi all11:08
vishalJrib: why this happening11:08
jribvishal: ask the channel (give details and use a single line)11:08
MohamedAlaa98Hi All :)11:09
ActionParsnipjrib: apt-get is fine but software centre refuses to install apps, reinstalled nano without a hitch, ubuntu 12.0411:09
ActionParsnipjrib: that is vishal's issue in a nutshell11:10
MohamedAlaa98i've installed ubuntu 12.04 but it's getting slow11:10
ActionParsnipjrib: oh and the guest user can run software centre ok (which is weird)11:10
MohamedAlaa98My ram is 51211:10
MohamedAlaa98is there is any optimizations for unity to make it work faster?11:11
dos000ubuntu 12.04 is taking 5 to 10 min to boot ...11:11
MohamedAlaa98the problem is not the boot time11:12
ActionParsnipMohamedAlaa98: use unity2D will make it faster, you could switch to a lighter desktop than Gnome, like XFCE or LXDE and the OS will use fewer resources11:12
alimjf;ljd;11:12
dos000this is sytem has some fiber cards ... how cani stop ubuntu 12.04 live cd from detecting all the medias and mounting them ?11:12
_Trullomy ubuntu 12.04 is showing the wrong monitor.. how do I change this? pressing detect display does nothing11:12
ActionParsnipdos000: run:  dmesg | less      read the lefthand value and look for large gaps11:12
ActionParsnipdos000: I also recommend you test your RAM using memtest from grub11:12
vishalWhy Ubuntu Software Center is not working....... it only works with commands11:13
MohamedAlaa98ActionParsnip: ok thanks :)11:13
dos000ActionParsnip: i know most of the errors are coming from an /dev/sdd and /dev/sde devices11:13
ActionParsnipdos000: have you fsck'd them in liveCD?11:13
dos000ActionParsnip: i can see the i/o errors from dmesg11:13
ActionParsnipdos000: you could also use the ultimate boot cd to test the drives using the drive manufacturers testing tool11:13
dos000ActionParsnip: i am just booting .. for now :-)11:13
vishal My Ubuntu 12.04 Software center not installing any app. but can install through command lines11:13
vishal My Ubuntu 12.04 Software center not installing any app. but can install through command lines11:13
vishal My Ubuntu 12.04 Software center not installing any app. but can install through command lines11:13
FloodBot1vishal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.11:14
gordonjcp!repeat | vishal11:14
ubottuvishal: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/11:14
dos000ActionParsnip: for now all i want is the livecd to stop detecting them11:14
ActionParsnipjrib: weird one isn't it11:14
MohamedAlaa98ActionParsnip: I was just looking for something else than changing from unity/2d11:14
jribvishal: repeating like that gets you the wrong kind of attention11:14
funky1hi there, have ubuntu 12.04 64 bit installed, and automatic logon enabled, takes quite long to show the desktop is there a way i can check what happens and why it takes so long?11:14
jribActionParsnip: yep11:14
dos000funky1: i am haing a similar issue11:14
ActionParsnipMohamedAlaa98: tried LXDE or XFCE...?11:14
funky1dos000 and what did u do?11:14
dos000funky1:  no solutions yet11:15
MohamedAlaa98ActionParsnip: yep :) and they're working fast11:15
dos000funky1: and my problem is with the livecd11:15
ActionParsnipvishal: are there config folders and files for software centre in your home folder?11:15
ActionParsnipMohamedAlaa98: nice :)11:15
dos000ActionParsnip: there is no boot settings to stop detecting scsi drives ?11:15
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ActionParsnipdos000: you could blacklist the module used for the controller11:16
MohamedAlaa98ActionParsnip: I was lookin for a way to make unity-2d run as fast as lxde or xfce11:16
MohamedAlaa98*looking11:16
dos000ActionParsnip: and i can do that from the boot menu ?11:16
ActionParsnipdos000: its a boot option, for grub11:17
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dos000ActionParsnip: i know the device name ... how do i figure the module and the controller ?11:18
Eaglemandhclient eth1 gives me an ip address but it is not assigned to the interface eth1: http://imagebin.org/22776811:18
dos000ActionParsnip: lsof would do ?11:19
vishal ActionParsnip: No there is no config folders in home folder11:19
ActionParsnipdos000: lsmod   maybe11:20
BluesKajHiyas all11:21
ActionParsniphio BluesKaj11:21
funky1doc2000: do you have any indicator applets running?11:21
BluesKajhey ActionParsnip11:22
funky1dos000: do you have any indicator applets running?11:22
funky1I had and just disabled them all and tried again, desktop loads noticeably faster11:22
funky1hm i get a pop up system error the application add-apt-repositery has closed unexpectedly11:24
funky1why could that be?11:24
EaglemanWHy is the ip address not assigned recieved by dhcp11:24
dos000funky1: nop11:24
Eaglemanhttp://pastebin.com/izU9XQph11:25
ActionParsnipfunky1: can you pastebin the command you are using as well as the output11:25
funky1using not command11:25
funky1just when i boot into desktop11:25
ActionParsnipfunky1: so when you log in you get a message about add-apt-repository ?11:25
funky1yes, just looking at the crash report11:26
ActionParsnipfunky1: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     is it smooth?11:27
dos000ActionParsnip: thanks a lot dude :-)11:27
Elsx18hello11:27
Elsx18mdr11:27
funky1says apt... with error in get_ppa_info_from_lp(): (6, could'n resolve host launchpad.net11:27
ActionParsnipfunky1: can you pastebin the full output please11:27
EaglemanWhy is the BOOTP/DHCP, Reply not assigned to the specific interfaace? http://pastebin.com/izU9XQph11:27
funky1ActionParsnip: it is a pop up crash report, can't copy, where can i find that info via cli?11:28
raven12.04 E/A errors / crashes when connecting via vnc - any ideas?11:31
compdocwhich vnc you use?11:32
MoreThanANoiseguys, after reinstalling / i can not use any of the previous user profiles.. How can i bring them back?11:32
ActionParsnipfunky1: run:  sudo apt-get update    and copy the text and run to:  http://pastie.org and put the text there11:32
ActionParsnipraven: what do you do once connected? There may be a sleeker solution to what you wnat to achieve11:33
EaglemanWhy is the BOOTP/DHCP, Reply not assigned to the specific interfaace? http://pastebin.com/izU9XQph11:35
ActionParsnipEagleman: is there only one interface on the system?11:38
gmagnohello. I'm experiencing som dificulties in having "tput bel" making any sound. I'm not sure if it is my terminal configuration issue or operating system. I already loaded pcspkr kernel module, and calling "beep" works fine. But I'm using centerim5, a chat application which relies on "tput bel" to through sound notifications, and it is really sad not having that feature working. ANy idea why "tput bel" does not work? Btw, "tput flash" works w11:39
gmagnoell.11:39
EaglemanActionParsnip 311:39
funky1ActionParsnip: nm seems to be fixed, no pop up anymore and apt-get runs with no problems, but thanks you for your willingness to help! :)11:39
Eaglemaneth0 eth2 eth2.1011:39
ActionParsnipfunky1: cli always comes to the help :)11:39
Eaglemaneth2 sees the dhcp reply incoming11:39
Eaglemanbut eth2.10 not11:39
raven12.04 E/A errors / crashes when connecting via vnc - any ideas?11:40
blackshirtraven... Not experienced with vnc,sorry11:40
MoreThanANoiseplease, guys, how can i make previous users work back after reinstalling system?11:40
blackshirtmorethananoise, what you mean? is it not working ?11:41
compdocwhich vnc you use?11:41
arrayi love ubuntu11:42
funky1indeed :)11:42
MoreThanANoiseblackshirt, nope. i used partition as /home during installation and it asked me for new user and now i see old folders, files and stuff, but i can log in as one of them..11:42
dr_willisyou need to readd the users in the same order they were added befor11:43
dr_willisor add the users then fix the ownership of the files and put the m in the proper home dirs11:43
blackshirtmorethananoise...sure, you make a new system11:43
EaglemanWhy is the BOOTP/DHCP, Reply not assigned to the specific interfaace? http://pastebin.com/izU9XQph11:44
MoreThanANoiseblackshirt, how can i make these users working back?11:46
Troy^Jordan_U: a=if your arround the formatting the external drive to ext4 and not using usbmount made write speeds go from 1.2M/s to 46M/s11:47
dr_willisMoreThanANoise:  how many users are you talking about?11:47
MoreThanANoisedr_willis 311:47
blackshirtmorethananoise, i don't know your system before... But you should learn how to hack /etc/passwd, /etc/groups and  /etc/shadow to add some user11:48
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Troy^fizz@server:/media/2tbint$ sudo chmod a+x /media/3tbext/ chmod: changing permissions of `/media/3tbext/': Read-only file system  What would cause my external i just formatted as ext4 as read only file system?11:50
MoreThanANoiseblackshirt, is there any tutorial..?11:50
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dr_willisMoreThanANoise:  you have added the users back with adduser?11:51
blackshirtmorethananoise, i think yes, you can google it11:51
dr_willisi alwasy add them  back in the same order. that saves m e tim e11:51
MoreThanANoisedr_willis, nope, i haven't added them. Shall i?11:51
blackshirtmorethananoise...you can do that...my suggest for adding manually11:53
MoreThanANoiseblackshirt, I'll give it a try. :)11:53
MoreThanANoiseWhen it says smtg about new UNIX passwd, i should type in new password for that user, right? :) (sorry for that dumb question)11:55
blackshirtyes11:56
theixleI am having issues with an atheros nic that wasn't resolved by installing compat-wireless. Can anyone help me figure out why it occasionaly stops working?11:58
dr_willisMoreThanANoise: add them in the same order you added them befor. or else user b may get user c's files and visa versa11:59
ActionParsnipTroy^: what file system is it?11:59
Troy^ActionParsnip: i only just formatted it ext411:59
ActionParsnipTroy^: did you mount it read only?12:00
Troy^ActionParsnip: i don't think so12:00
ActionParsnipTroy^: unmount it tnen mount it writable12:00
Troy^how?12:00
ActionParsnipTroy^: sudo umount /media/2tbint12:01
ActionParsnipTroy^: then use the mount command to mount it12:01
Troy^now i meant the mounting making it writable because i just type sudo mount /dev/sdd /media/3tbext12:01
ActionParsnipTroy^: you can't mount sdd, you can mount sdd112:01
MoreThanANoisedr_willis, crap, too late. :/12:01
ActionParsnipTroy^: sdd is the drive, sdd1 is the partition you nmade12:01
Troy^ActionParsnip: sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /media/3tbext ext4  i'm having a little brain loss syndrome that is not right where does the filesystem type go12:04
Scott___Hi, I'm trying to install apache using "apt-get install apache2" but I'm getting a lot of errors like this: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.190 80]12:05
ActionParsnipTroy^: the filesystem will be detected for you12:05
ActionParsnipScott___: jaunty is eol12:05
Scott___what is eol?12:05
ActionParsnipScott___: there are no sources for packages for it12:05
ActionParsnip!eo | Scott___12:05
ubottuScott___: Iru al #ubuntu-eo, Bonvole.12:05
ActionParsnip!eol | Scott___12:05
ubottuScott___: End-Of-Life is the time when security updates and support for an Ubuntu release stop, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases for more information. Looking to upgrade from an EOL release? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades12:05
Troy^ActionParsnip: mount: you must specify the filesystem type12:05
blackshirtscott, yes, jaunty was old releasem not supported again12:05
ActionParsnipTroy^: sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdd1 /media/3tbext12:06
ActionParsnipScott___: why such an old (and dead) release12:07
Troy^ActionParsnip: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdd1,12:07
Troy^ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194545/ perhaps i did not format it correct12:07
Scott___ActionParsnip, I just bought a virtual server and this is the OS that was installed on it.12:09
Scott___ie. Ubuntu 9.04 64-bit12:09
ActionParsnipScott___: yes that is dead. no more support. I'd contact the provider and ask them why they are installing EOL releases12:09
ActionParsnipTroy^: looks that way12:10
Troy^ActionParsnip: just redid it and it mounted fine as such12:10
ActionParsnipScott___: send them this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases12:10
Scott___I see they also provide Ubuntu 10.04, is that still supported?12:10
ThenewinstallatoHi people!12:11
ThenewinstallatoCan you help me?12:11
Scott___I think I probably selected the wrong option TBH12:12
ThenewinstallatoPlease...help me :)12:12
Hayatewhat the problems thenewinstallato12:12
Thenewinstallatowell12:12
ActionParsnipThenewinstallato: have you stated your issue?12:12
Thenewinstallatoyes ActionParsnip on the top12:13
Thenewinstallatowell again:12:13
Hayatei have not see it12:13
Scott___Is there any advantage using 64bit rather than 32 bit?12:13
ActionParsnipScott___: depends what the system is for12:13
Thenewinstallatoi bought a new PC12:13
Thenewinstallatoand i wanted to install Ubuntu 10.1012:13
Thenewinstallatoon it12:13
ActionParsnipThenewinstallato: maverick is dead12:14
Scott___ActionParsnip, I'm going to mainly just use it for web hosting12:14
ThenewinstallatoActionParsnip: why isn't it the latest?12:14
ActionParsnipScott___: then 64bit wil probably help12:14
Hayatescott__ yes,if you are using 64 capable cpu12:14
ActionParsnipThenewinstallato: no, 12.04 is12:14
ThenewinstallatoActionParsnip: then i will use 11.1012:14
ActionParsnipThenewinstallato: its also LTS :)12:14
Scott___ActionParsnip, OK I'll install Ubutu 10.04 64bit, let's see if that works any better12:14
Thenewinstallatowhats better 11.10 or 12.0412:14
Troy^ActionParsnip: this is what i'm putting in my /etc/fstab UUID=6da9a6d4-f2fe-4732-ab06-2d8912ea3416 /media/3tbext ext4 do i need any other parameters on the other side of the ext4?12:14
ThenewinstallatoActionParsnip12:15
ActionParsnipThenewinstallato: Oneiric is supported til April 2013   not much support12:15
ThenewinstallatoActionParsnip: ok well the best is ubuntu 12.04.1 as i think12:15
ActionParsnipThenewinstallato: Precise is later and is LTS, supported til 201712:15
Thenewinstallatois it stable enough or very stable12:15
ActionParsnipThenewinstallato: very stable imho12:15
Thenewinstallatookay ActionParsnip and do you recommend to upgrade to 12.10 if its there12:16
Thenewinstallatoor stay with 12.04 until 201712:16
ActionParsnipThenewinstallato: I'd see how you like 12.04, if you want the latest features then 12.10 but Precise is designed to be stable and is supported longer.12:16
Thenewinstallatookay12:17
ThenewinstallatoUbuntu 12.04 RockZ it12:17
smjmy Make is somehow broken... it just does nothing but eat RAM until the computer crashes12:17
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Scott___Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apache2/apache2.2-bin_2.2.14-5ubuntu8.2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.184 80]12:17
smjno matter whether the directory has a Makefile or not12:17
ActionParsnipScott___: is this under Jaunty?12:18
blackshirtscott, update your database or change the source repos?12:18
Scott___ActionParsnip, this one is lucid I think12:19
Scott___Err http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/main apache2.2-bin 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.2  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.184 80]12:19
ActionParsnipScott___: yes, itsthe lucid deb, is this on the same system you have Jaunty installed on?12:19
dr_willis!lucid12:19
ubottuUbuntu 10.04 LTS (Lucid Lynx) was the twelfth release of Ubuntu. Download http://releases.ubuntu.com/10.04/ - Release Info: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/1004 - Supported until April 2013 (Desktop), April 2015 (Server)12:19
Scott___ActionParsnip, I don't have Jaunty installed now, I installed Ubuntu 10.04 over the top12:20
ActionParsnipScott___: how do you mean 'over the top'?12:20
dr_willisyou just did a clean install of 10.04?12:20
Thenewinstallato10.04 is old12:20
Scott___yes dr_willis12:20
Thenewinstallato10.04 is old and support is AWAY12:21
Thenewinstallatoplease don't use it anymore12:21
Troy^hmm weird how ntfs is slower in linux12:21
dr_willisyou did a sudo apt-get update yet?12:21
ActionParsnipits still supported though12:21
ActionParsnipdr_willis: nice catch12:21
blackshirttroy... What you mean with slow?12:21
dr_willisTroy^:  be weirder if it was faster. ;)12:21
Scott___dr_willis, on, I'll give that a go12:21
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Scott___no*12:21
Troy^yes ActionParsnip i may even format my other drive from ntfs to ext312:21
Troy^ext4*12:22
Scott___aha, that worked...  * Starting web server apache212:22
ActionParsnipTroy^: so long as you don't want windows to access the partition in a dual boot system, cool :)12:22
Troy^ActionParsnip: so windows can never access a ext4?12:22
ActionParsnipTroy^: not presently12:22
Troy^ActionParsnip: opps lol because that is what i formatted my external lol12:23
dr_willisTroy^:  thers tools to allow it.. but its not a good idea.. and can be dangeroua to your data12:23
ActionParsnipdespite the ext4 structure being available, its not in the OS12:23
dr_willisnot tried the tools in ages.12:23
ActionParsnipyet the proprietary NTFS filesystem can be access by Ubuntu12:23
Troy^ActionParsnip: so will i still beable to samba share the drive?12:24
ActionParsnipTroy^: yes as the system will handle the file access, samba clients just see folders12:24
dr_willisTroy^:  fs has nothing to do with samba ;)12:24
Troy^ok12:24
ActionParsnipTroy^: its only when you dual boot and want access to the folders in Ext412:25
dr_willisyou just need the right permissions,, its often harder to share a ntfs with samba then ext2/3/412:25
n3lthonhi, im trying to install ubuntu on dual boot with windows, but when i arrive at partition manager it shows the disk empty, but i have windows installed. I think it is using gpt and uefi. how can i install it in dual boot?12:25
ActionParsnipdr_willis: true12:25
ActionParsnipn3lthon: is the NTFS partition healthy?12:25
ActionParsnipn3lthon: which version of Windows?12:25
Troy^ActionParsnip: so yea right now my external harddrive being ext4 may not beable to be accessed by windows anymore12:26
n3lthonActionParsnip: i dont know, but i think yes. Windows 7 64bit. its an asus n56vz12:26
ActionParsnipTroy^: not in a dual boot, but over network it will be fine12:27
Troy^ok ActionParsnip thanks12:27
ActionParsnipn3lthon: I suggest you check it, then resize the NTFS partition in Windows 7 and install Ubuntu to the freed space12:27
theixleI may have fixed the issue with modprobe -v nohwencrypt=1 but now I need to stick that in a config file somewhere12:28
theixleWondering where the config file is located/should be located12:28
Billy-Acer-Aspiranyone knows how to login facebook in china?12:29
n3lthonActionParsnip, i have a partition DATA empty and i want to use it for ubuntu. what shuld i do for ubuntu detect it?12:29
n3lthon*should12:29
blackshirtfacebook has been blocked by chinas government12:29
kiddgreetings..12:29
Billy-Acer-Aspirhow to break the block?12:30
Scott___Billy-Acer-Aspir, proxy12:30
blackshirtyou should do some hacking i think12:30
Billy-Acer-Aspiri did not find any answer through web12:30
Scott___Billy-Acer-Aspir, probably your government censored it12:31
NEoneHi. I need to install nvidia driver with kernelmode. Managed to activate root and login with it into console (tty2). But at the same time, there is still the graphical session with my normal user on tty7. How do I stop the X11 graphical session (x11 shall not be running during the installation of that driver) on tty7?12:31
Scott___Billy-Acer-Aspir, is it true that if I type something like t*******n s****e that it comes up as stars for you?12:32
Billy-Acer-Aspir t*******n s****e12:32
Billy-Acer-Aspiri saw something like this  t*******n s****e12:32
Scott___no way12:33
NEoneOr can I boot Ubuntu into textmode/console and prevent it to start x11 at all?12:34
ikoniahow is this anything to do with ubuntu Billy-Acer-Aspir / Scott___ ?12:34
iceroot!nox | NEone12:34
ubottuNEone: To start your system in text-only mode append 'text' (without the quotes) to the kernel line in the grub menu. You can access the grub menu by pressing Esc (Grub legacy) or Shift (Grub2) during boot. For more info see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BootOptions#Text%20Mode12:34
ActionParsnipn3lthon: is it formatted and empty, or is it devoid of partition too?12:35
Eaglemanhow do i create a static arp entry?12:35
ActionParsnipEagleman: arp -s   can add an arp entry, you can add the command to the startup in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line to run at boot12:36
ActionParsnipEagleman: http://man.cx/arp12:37
n3lthonActionParsnip: its an ntfs partition, its empty and at partition manager it shows only unllocated space for all disk12:37
NEoneiceroot: Thanks, will gonna try this.12:38
ActionParsnipn3lthon: delete the NTFS partition and the installer will see it.12:38
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n3lthonActionParsnip: delete on windows?12:39
ActionParsnipn3lthon: wherever, just make the space you want to install Ubuntu to have no partitions...free space12:39
ActionParsnipn3lthon: also chkdsk your Windows NTFS partition, make sure it is healthy12:40
dr_willisunallocated is very defferent than  empty12:41
sekynaja..12:42
dannyis there a program for removing old kernels?12:42
sekynajaไม่รู้คับ12:42
napsterdanny: May be use ubuntu tweak12:42
ActionParsnipdanny: ubuntu-tweak does it, or ou can do it manually12:43
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dannythank you both12:43
ActionParsnipdanny: if you can pastebin the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a     I can give commands to clean up12:43
milo64hello, how do i add a custom script to start everytime linux starts?12:44
ActionParsnipmilo64: does it need root access, or is user access enough?12:44
dhana013_Hi Guys How to create automated way create deb files from source code please guide me12:44
milo64ActionParsnip: root12:44
ActionParsnipdhana013_: look into checkinstall12:44
ActionParsnipmilo64: does X need to be running?12:44
kravionhi, i've tried disabling ipv6, but my wireless still goes off at times, is there a solution for this?12:45
milo64ActionParsnip: no12:45
ActionParsnipmilo64: then add the command above the 'exit 0' line in /etc/rc.local   if its just a quick command you can add it as you expect, if it will run for a long time then add a space and then an  amperand on the end of the command to background it12:46
ActionParsnipkravion: what wifi chip?12:46
ActionParsnip!checkinstall12:46
ubottucheckinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!12:46
milo64ActionParsnip: ok, thanks12:46
napsterdhana013_: Its kind of a complex process and need through knowledge. Please take a look : http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/12:47
kravionActionParsnip: Intel WifiLink 1000 BGN12:47
ActionParsnipkravion: thats the adapter, not the chip12:47
dhana013_napster, It's any gui tool will automate the process, created deb files stored to repo.12:48
ActionParsnipkravion: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    it will tell you the chip12:48
milo64ActionParsnip: # In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution bits.12:48
milo64how can i change it?12:48
ActionParsnipmilo64: if you have a script file you have made, just reference it in the rc.local file, you will need to mark the script executable with:  chmod +x /path/to/scriptname12:49
milo64oh... ok.12:49
ActionParsnipmilo64: when you reference the script file, use the full pathname12:49
milo64ok12:49
napsterdhana013_: What exactly are you trying to do?12:50
ActionParsnipkravion: is it a Centrino Wireless-N 1000    by  any chance?12:50
kravionActionParsnip: yes it is12:50
ActionParsnipkravion: THAT is the chip12:50
ActionParsnipkravion: run:  echo "options iwl3945 11n_disable=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwl3945.conf > /dev/null12:51
ActionParsnipkravion: reboot to test12:51
ActionParsnipkravion: I assume the Driver=    for the chip is the iwl394512:51
dhana013_napster, i want crate my own packages it's formated as different for format deb,rpm files stored in my repo. it's a automated processs12:51
napsterdhana013_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall12:52
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ActionParsnipkravion: those chips have issues with N speed, so the option makes it connect at G speed and is much more stable12:54
milen8204How to create a starter in Ubuntu 11.10 ?12:54
milen8204i mean script starter icon12:54
kravionActionParsnip: thanks, brb12:54
ActionParsnipmilo64: how do you mean?12:55
milo64ActionParsnip: uh... what?12:55
ActionParsnipmilo64: sorry wrong target12:56
ActionParsnipmilen8204: how do you mean?12:56
milo64that's ok12:56
prashant_123456i have installed pysdm and now my all drives are read only any solution ?12:56
ActionParsnipmilen8204: do you mean a launcher for an applicatin?12:57
milen8204ActionParsnip, yes launcher for a script12:57
napsterprashant_123456: Make it rw12:57
prashant_123456napster, all are read only12:57
prashant_123456napster, also at boot time12:57
prashant_123456napster, and if do unistall the pysdm no change in file system12:58
napsterprashant_123456: You will be able to make it read-write-executable by chmod12:58
prashant_123456ok12:58
prashant_123456i see12:58
ActionParsnipprashant_123456: are they internal partitions?12:58
prashant_123456ActionParsnip, yes internal and a memory card12:58
milen8204I can place the script on desktop and 2 click but it always asks "run in terminal", "open" and so on, I want on 2 click to open i a terminal12:58
ikoniano12:58
ikoniayou do not chmod a file system to make it mount read-write12:59
prashant_123456ActionParsnip, chmod + x will do the change ?12:59
ikoniacheck if the issue is mounted or file system permissions related12:59
prashant_123456ikonia, please explain what to do13:00
ActionParsnipmilen8204: is it a single command line or is it a few?13:01
prashant_123456ikonia, all are mounted well13:01
ActionParsnipprashant_123456: are they internal partitions? on drives inside the system?13:01
milen8204ActionParsnip,  i think 45 rows :D13:02
prashant_123456ActionParsnip, one drive inside the system13:02
ActionParsnipprashant_123456: then why not use /etc/fstab13:02
ActionParsnipmilen8204: yowser13:02
prashant_123456ActionParsnip, last time i messed up with fstab but the system crashed13:02
milen8204ActionParsnip,  it is a bash script13:02
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ActionParsnipmilen8204: I can sugest you make a .desktop file on the desktop to run:  gnome-terminal -x /path/to/script    and it will run in a terminal13:03
milen8204I want to make an icon which starts a bash script on 2 click13:03
milen8204ActionParsnip, no I made bash script whit several commands, and want to execute that commands whit launcher13:04
ActionParsnipmilen8204: the .desktop file will do that for you, I suggest you copy one from ~/.config/autostart    then modify it13:04
ActionParsnipmilen8204: when you dounble click the icon, it will launch a terminal and run the script in it13:05
milen8204ActionParsnip, I am a newby in the .desctop files13:05
milen8204whill try13:05
ActionParsnipmilen8204: I can make you it if you want...13:06
napstermilen8204: Exec=<your script> Terminal=false This what you want, am I right ActionParsnip ?13:07
tim-cthi all. where do i find iptables config file in 12.0413:07
milen8204ActionParsnip, I will try alone, but you can help if you want ;D13:08
tim-ctdo i open stsconfig/iptables13:08
ActionParsnipmilen8204: what is the full path to your script please13:08
indehi guys can someone help me . i got a make command which is not working . trying to install liquidfeedback  make: *** [lf_update] Error 1http://pastebin.de/1974013:08
milen8204napster, <your script> is the path to my script or the whole script13:08
napsterjust the path13:09
ActionParsnipinde: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc13:09
ActionParsnipmilen8204: what is the full path to your script please?13:09
mathihi13:10
milen8204/home/millen/nostna_livada13:10
indeActionParsnip: do i run that command ? thanks13:10
mathihow can I allow my windows machine to transfer files to my linux machine using Cyberduck ?13:10
ActionParsnipinde: yes please, what is the one word output please?13:10
indelsb_release -sc13:10
indeprecise13:10
tim-cti see there is a ssh program for windows13:11
ActionParsnipmilen8204: wget -O ~/Desktop/nostra.desktop https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/nostra.desktop13:12
tim-ctssh server13:12
a-l-e!ppa13:12
ubottuA Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge13:12
iceroottim-ct: cygwin can offer you openssh-server13:12
a-l-e!words ppa13:12
indeActionParsnip:  the output for lsb_release -sc  is precise13:12
a-l-eany good resourcces on how to create a ppa?13:13
iceroota-l-e: just register a ppa on launchpad13:13
hualethello, guys, do you know how can i set the layout of the panel in unity?13:13
iceroota-l-e: there are tutorials then after the registration how to build packages inside the ppa13:13
a-l-eok13:14
psygnosisHello13:14
iceroothualet: with the program "myunity" for example "sudo apt-get install myunity"13:14
a-l-ethanks iceroot ... my goal is to provide some experimental builds of scribus...13:14
a-l-ei guess that creating personal PPAs is the good way to do it...13:14
iceroota-l-e: yes13:14
psygnosisSomeone know how to use python in xchat-gnome?13:15
icerootpsygnosis: #xchat #python13:15
psygnosisOk13:15
psygnosisThanks13:15
sliddjurWhere is a good place to create folders that are going to be shared between users. containing random data :)13:15
psygnosisWhat is the server adress for this chan?13:16
hualeticeroot, no , myunity's panel view just provide transparency setting and transparency maximized toggle setting13:16
milen8204ActionParsnip, tahnks  a lot, after your file i made another alone :D13:17
hualeticeroot, do u have another approach?13:17
psygnosisSorry, stupid question.13:17
jribpsygnosis: this channel is on freenode if that's your question.  You can use irc.ubuntu.com for the server13:17
dr_williswhat do you mean by panel layout?13:17
iceroothualet: just know that tool, sorry13:18
hualetdr_willis, yeah13:18
icerootpsygnosis: irc.freenode.org13:18
hualeticeroot, that's ok, thanks13:18
kravionActionParsnip: somehow, wireless still drops to 1mbps and stuff dont load...13:18
psygnosisjrib & iceroot : thanks13:19
hualetdr_willis, i mean the position of the icons locate...13:19
no-nI just ate a royal gala apple13:20
ActionParsnipinde: kravion if you run:   sudo lshw -C network    what is the driver module you are using?13:20
ActionParsnippsygnosis: irc.freenode.net port 666713:20
hualetdr_willis, my ibus always goes before my other indicators' icons13:20
Keepbroerr hello...can someone help me? I've got a bit of a problem on my laptop and have no clue what to do?13:21
indeActionParsnip: PCI (sysfs)13:21
theixleKeepbro: describe your problem13:21
kravionActionParsnip: driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.2.0-30-generic13:21
luweitestCommand A is a symbolic link to B, but run A and B gives different result. Why?13:21
jribluweitest: command can check how it was called13:22
KeepbroThe problemis im not great at computery things (but trying to learn) and have just installed Ubuntu on an old laptop as an experiment13:22
luweitestjrib: Can a symbolic link have parameters, like on Windows?13:22
KeepbroI cant find my wireless network even though it worked when I plugged it in (wired it) and I cant use it as a laptop13:23
ida_!list13:23
ubottuida_: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».13:23
jribluweitest: no, write a small shell script if you want that13:23
luweitestjrib: I see. Thank you.13:23
KeepbroAlso this is my first time using IRC so I have no idea what the hell im doing13:24
indeActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/0H3NVYdP here is the output thanks13:24
jribKeepbro: it's just multiplayer notepad13:25
indeoopsi guess you wanted that from kravion :)13:25
Keepbrowhats that and how do I kill it?13:25
indeActionParsnip:  what is causing this error lf_update.c:19:11: warning: variable 'out' set but not used [-Wunused-but-set-variable]  http://pastebin.de/1974013:27
luweitestjrib: I still have problem. Although B can check that user called it through A, but it will not perform the task that it can not do, right?13:27
jribluweitest: you're going to have to be more specific.  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish13:28
milen8204ActionParsnip, how to edit .desktop file ?13:28
luweitestjrib: What I am talking about is the command whatis and apropos13:28
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jribluweitest: ok, and what are you trying to accomplish?13:28
napstermilen8204: I use a terminal to run gedit usually : gedit <your file>.desktop13:29
milen8204aha thanks13:29
milen8204napster, thanks13:29
napstermilen8204: no problem13:29
luweitestjrib: I find apropos is a link to whatis, I run apropos to search keywords in the description, run whatis to know a command's description. I think they are designed to be different, but surprised to find they are the same13:30
luweitestjrib: I don't know how to accomplish the same task using whatis, vise versa13:31
jribluweitest: right, because in the code you will see something like: if argv[0] == "apropos" { do some different stuff}.  You can grab the source and read through it if you want (I imagine it's not too complicated)13:31
jribluweitest: ah.  I understand your question now.13:31
jribluweitest: it's not necessarily possible to call whatis and have it behave like apropos though13:32
milen8204napster, If I run the script in a terminal (Terminal=true) when I close the terminal does the script stop ?13:32
napsteryes milen820413:33
KeepbroSo I installed Ubuntu - fine - wiped everything - all cool - then I plugged in my ethernet cable to my laptop becase the driver for the network card wasnt installed. So it connected fine - downloaded the right driver - restarted and now it can detect every wireless network in a 50m radius EXCEPT the one I want. I'm guessing that something is not setup to detect my wireless network? I'm very...13:33
jribluweitest: if you are *really* interested, do "apt-get source man-db" and you'll have the source code for it in your current directory13:33
Keepbro...new to ubuntu so if someone can help I'd be very grateful . Possibility of cookies as a reward!!13:33
milen8204ok thanks a lot, that is what I needed :D13:33
luweitestjrib: So, if that argv[0] == "apropos" part is designed to hidden and waiting to be called through apropos, what is the point to put them in one program and not let them to be separated?  I don't know much about coding so checking code is something I can't imagine.13:34
jribluweitest: the rest of the code is probably very similar, so they don't have to duplicate things13:34
napsterKeepbro: See if : sudo iwlist <your interface> scan lists the one you want to connect to13:35
luweitestjrib: Ah yes, that's a good reason. Thank you.13:35
indehey guys anyone of you know why i am getting this make error on ubuntu . http://pastebin.de/19740 thanks13:35
smjmy Make is somehow broken... it just does nothing but eat RAM until the computer crashes. it doesn't matter whether the directory has a Makefile in it or not13:36
gordonjcpsmj: what are you compiling?13:36
smjMandelbulber13:36
smjbut I've had this problem with everything else too13:37
gordonjcphow much memory does your machine have?13:37
smj8GB13:37
BluesKajKeepbro, open a terminal , copy and paste this into it , then hit enter , sudo ifconfig wlan0 up .I assume your wirelesss lan is wlan013:37
Keepbroerr yup virgin media13:38
gordonjcpsmj: mandelbulber seems pretty broken here13:39
BluesKajKeepbro, then this ,  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid13:39
Keepbroi did the first one and got Error while getting interface flags: no such device13:39
gordonjcpsmj: it built, eventually13:40
gordonjcpsmj: yeah, mandelbulber has an astonishingly broken setup with makefiles13:40
luweitestjrib: Further thought -- isn't Unix philosophy is small, separated tools put together to accomplish complex tasks? But code re-usability is somehow contradict to that. As the example of whatis and apropos, why not put all the commands in one "large" kernel and make every link of them?13:41
a-l-emmm... the documentation i get in launchpad is geared towards creating an official PPA...13:41
napsterKeepbro: Just execute BluesKaj's second command and see if your SSID is listed13:41
a-l-eis there any "simpler" howto for creating a personal PPA?13:41
gordonjcpluweitest: how is code reusability contradictory to small, general-purpose tools?13:41
jriba-l-e: what documentation are you looking at?13:42
jrib!ppa | a-l-e13:42
ubottua-l-e: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge13:42
jriberm13:42
luweitestgordonjcp: I guess there are common codes more or less13:42
Keepbrointerface doesnt support scanning13:42
a-l-ejrib: i'm looking for an howt for creating a PPA out of a scribus snapshot13:42
BluesKajKeepbro, ok try, ifconfig , in the terminal , and pastebin the results at www.pastebin,com13:42
jriba-l-e: you've seen https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA ?13:43
a-l-ejrib: yep, it does not say how to create a ppa13:43
gordonjcpluweitest: that's the whole point of common libraries13:43
a-l-eby creating i mean: uploading the code in the correct way13:43
jriba-l-e: uh, you kept clicking "next"? and reading?13:43
jriba-l-e: if you go on to the next pages (past installing packages from a ppa), that is explained13:44
a-l-ei've tried to click on links, but the pages are explaining how to follow the rules to get the package included in ubuntu and so on...13:44
smjgordonjcp: no, it will do that even when I run Make in home directory13:44
a-l-ejrib: i don't want to install a package from a PPA, i want to add a personal PPA to launchpad13:44
gordonjcpsmj: sounds like there's something very wrong with your system13:44
luweitestgordonjcp: Yes, so the libraries can be combined to that all-in-one program altogether.13:44
jriba-l-e: yes.  So read the page after THAT13:44
jribthat*13:45
Keepbrosht13:45
gordonjcpluweitest: right, but all-in-one programs are pretty much never what you want13:45
a-l-ejrib: let me have a look at it...13:45
luweitestgordonjcp: why?13:45
BluesKaj!pastebin | Keepbro13:45
ubottuKeepbro: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.13:45
jriba-l-e: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage13:45
gordonjcpluweitest: because they don't do the right things13:45
a-l-e(one of the problems i had, was that i was clicking on links in the text, and i didn't notice that there was a next at the end... jsut as a feedback)13:45
KeepbroBlueskaj - thanks for the help - I'll paste it there but... my baby just woke up so umm. gotta go  - also Im using my windows PC to do this on and have the laptop on my lap so umm. anyway thank you gootta go CIAO13:46
gordonjcpluweitest: they're complex and difficult to use13:46
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luweitestgordonjcp: It should not be difficult to use, but may be  prone to err because of complexity13:48
a-l-ejust one question: do i neeed ubuntu on my computer to create the ppa?13:48
a-l-ecan i do it from debian?13:48
gordonjcpluweitest: they're always difficult to use, because of the complexity13:48
a-l-e(one more question... that is)13:48
gordonjcpluweitest: programs should be small and simple13:48
iceroota-l-e: to create the ppa you dont need ubuntu, to build the packages you need ubuntu-tools (which should also work on debian)13:48
gordonjcpluweitest: if you need to have something that does a lot of different stuff, it should use some sort of plugin framework13:49
a-l-eok, i'll restart the laptop, then...13:49
sliddjurusermod -G admingroup lisa13:49
iceroota-l-e: but its always a good ieda to test your packages on ubuntu when they are in the ppa, so i would recommend to hold a ubuntu machine13:49
a-l-eor it would be rather time to create a VM13:49
luweitestgordonjcp: I have some clue, although not very clear. I am not a programmer.13:49
sliddjurusermod -G admingroup lisa... why isnt this working? when i look in nano /etc/group lisa isnt in the admingroup..._13:49
gordonjcpsliddjur: -a -G13:49
jribsliddjur: do you have an group called "admingroup"?13:50
luweitestgordonjcp: So some sort of duplicate is necessary. That's a trade-off.13:50
jribsliddjur: and, yes, unless you do as gordonjcp says, lisa will lose all her other groups by running that command13:51
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sliddjur-a?13:51
luweitestjrib: gordonjcp: Thank you both.13:52
sliddjuraha, i got it. thanks13:52
Muelliarrgs. Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't recognize the middle clicks from my touchpad :( Now I can't use the cut buffer.What a regression. I've tried messing with synclient, but to no avail. Does anybody have a remedy?13:52
jribMuelli: you can use shift-insert until you sort out the touchpad issue13:53
CerealGuyhello im running Ubuntu 12.04 32Bit - minimal and dont know how to install and configure vnc.13:53
jrib!vnc | CerealGuy13:54
ubottuCerealGuy: VNC is a protocol for remote desktop. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VNCOverSSH describes how to use it securely.  It works best over fast connections, otherwise look at !FreeNX13:54
beytullahhello13:54
compdocCerealGuy, I like vnc4server. Which do you use?13:54
rohtie_What is the best channel to ask about c programming related questions?13:54
CerealGuyi use vnc4server too13:54
jribrohtie_: ##c13:54
rohtie_jrib: thanks13:55
ozette_I want to allow internet connection trough ethernet cable from computer A to computer B, where B has no wireless network card - how do I proceed.13:55
* jrib wishes rohtie_ good luck13:55
compdocCerealGuy, I think its best to create a file to create the service:   /etc/init.d/vncserver13:55
ozette_computer A has only one ethernet port, and is connected to the home network with a wireless usb adapter13:56
CerealGuyi started the vnc4server with "vnc4server" ^^13:56
CerealGuyBut when i connect i get an error message:13:56
CerealGuyXsession: Unable to Start X session --- no "root/.xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers...13:57
Muellinah jrib. I also want to close firefox tabs and open links in tabs and all that. So I do need the middle click :-\ I read that "three finger tap" was the contempory thing for a midle click. But my touchpad only recognises two touches according to xinput list --long :-\13:57
CerealGuyi think i have to install somethin other as just "ubuntu-desktop", xinetd and vnc4server13:57
jribMuelli: what did it do before? 2 tap for middle and you just didn't right click on it?13:57
compdocCerealGuy, you run vncserver the first time, and it asks for a password, and it also creates the .vnc folder with xstartup13:58
CerealGuyyes vncpasswd set correctly13:58
ahmedelgamilHi Guys13:58
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CerealGuyalso configured the /.vnc/xstartup file13:58
Muellijrib: how do you mean? Before the upgrade I just pressed the middle of the lower edge on my touchpad to achieve a middle click.13:58
DigitalFluxAny idea how can i disable CPU frequency scaling on ubuntu 12.04 server ?13:58
compdocCerealGuy, pastebin your startup file13:58
jribMuelli: ah.  And you can't recreate that configuration?13:59
compdocCerealGuy, how did you install vnc4server?13:59
jrib!synaptic | Muelli13:59
ubottuMuelli: A Graphical Package Manager. For a good howto see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticHowto13:59
Muellijrib: No. *I* can't. It should certainly be possible though.13:59
sybiozhi13:59
jribargh13:59
CerealGuythe log file: http://pastebin.com/yXEJznKu13:59
jrib!synaptics | Muelli13:59
ubottuMuelli: For a comprehensive Synaptics Touchpad guide, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SynapticsTouchpad13:59
Ironhello13:59
sybiozhello13:59
sybiozhow are you?14:00
CerealGuythe config: http://pastebin.com/JMCafWb214:00
Irongood I think14:00
IronI'm having difficulty with catalyst control center though14:00
ChaoticanarchyXcan anyone give me direction on how to get my display to stop going into standby? I allready set it to an hour in the settings but its like its ignoring it.14:00
sybioz;D14:00
IronI try to launch it with admin privilidges, but it asks for a password14:00
Ironi put my password in14:00
Ironand it tells me it's wrong14:00
jribMuelli: there's also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input and « man synaptics » as resources14:00
IronAnother major problem is the fglrx drivers report that they cannot install.14:01
ActionParsnipIron: run the command with gksudo14:01
Ironwhich command14:01
IronI'm using a gui14:02
compdocCerealGuy, try http://pastebin.com/FhzEuj2c14:02
nokiais there a command to ouput:  sudo fdisk -l or sudo blkid to a text file14:02
icerootnokia: command > filename14:02
ActionParsnipIron: gksudo aticonfig      maybe..   If you check the Exec=   line in the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications    you can see what is ran, then prefix that with: gksudo14:03
CerealGuyhmm14:03
ActionParsnipnokia: sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/fdisk.txt14:03
CerealGuyi see the vnconfig window but its oversized14:03
CerealGuyno desktop environment14:04
nokiatxs14:04
compdochow are you launching vncserver?14:04
CerealGuyjust vnc4server14:04
ActionParsnipnokia: you can also run:  sudo blkid >> ~/Desktop/fdisk.txt     the >> ADDS to the file, the > makes a new file and adds the text, if the file already exists, the contents are lost14:04
ozette_anyone else experiences flash video somtimes to play really quick or sound to be muted? I can't watch youtube unless I restart my computer now.14:04
skaI upgraded to 12.04, but i can't get my Plantronics microphone to show up in alsa.14:05
ActionParsnipozette_: what browsers have you tried14:05
ozette_chrome14:05
skaI've tried removing pulseaudio and several fixes suggested online..14:05
ozette_ActionParsnip, Is it a common problem?14:05
ChaoticanarchyXcan anyone give me direction on how to get my display to stop going into standby? I already set it to an hour in the settings but its like its ignoring it and keeps going into standby after ten minutes14:05
obert2hello,what is the common method to download/install apps?14:06
ActionParsnipozette_: can be14:06
ActionParsnipobert2: software centre14:06
Ironhow do i uninstall fglrx, I don't think it's installed properly14:06
CerealGuyobert2, apt-get14:06
CerealGuy:D14:06
codemaniacobert2: software center14:06
CerealGuyor software-center/synaptic14:06
ActionParsnip!ati | Iron14:06
ubottuIron: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto14:06
obert2apt-get or via gui?14:06
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CerealGuyapt-get is the command tool14:06
obert2both perhaps?14:06
CerealGuysoftware center the gui14:06
BluesKajobert2, either one works14:06
Calinousoftware center/synaptic = gui (graphical user interface), apt-get is the command line tool14:07
Calinouonce you get familiar with apt-get I suggest you stick to it for most purposes14:07
Calinouit's much quicker :)14:07
Ironwhich gui should I install that will still look nice but use significantly less resources?14:07
ozetteChrome plays my flashcontent really quick, and firefox really slow14:07
obert2yes i know, just tryin to understand if one is more used/recommended than the other14:07
BluesKajobert2, they both use the dpkg system for install and removal , one is a gui the other is command line14:07
ozettethis is absurd14:07
obert2mhm ok thanks14:08
Ironozette, chrome is using an adobe flash player i believe while firefox is using an open source alternative, which lacks acceleration(I think, or  it's just badly coded).14:08
CerealGuyCould not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list!14:08
CerealGuyi think thats my problem ^^14:08
* a-l-e is downloading an ubuntu iso...14:09
ozetteIron, Only way to get it right again is to restart my system?14:09
yeatsIron: that's not correct14:09
skaShould lsusb show my mike?14:09
ChaoticanarchyXthen again flash has been known to be a poor code (thats why most iphones wont play flash) if im right14:09
compdocCerealGuy, which os you using?14:09
ozetteIt's really silly14:09
IronI am pretty sure all iphones wont play flash14:09
semitonesHey -- why does apt-get say that linux-generic is being "held back" -- is that a problem?14:09
CerealGuyi use ubuntu 12.04 32bit minimal14:09
ChaoticanarchyXim sure your right14:09
compdocCerealGuy, how did you install vnc?14:10
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CerealGuyapt-get install vnc4server14:10
compdocthat should jsut work14:10
Ironhow do I do a complete reinstall of my graphics drivers? Theyre really stuffed up14:10
CerealGuyi think i have to install gnome-session or?14:10
Ironoh right, sorry, the web link... I'll go check that14:11
CerealGuy/root/.vnc/xstartup: 5: /root/.vnc/xstartup: /usr/bin/gnome-session: not foun14:11
CerealGuy*f14:11
compdocCerealGuy, oh, you dont have a desktop?14:11
CerealGuyno14:11
CerealGuyits a server14:11
CerealGuyinstalled ubuntu.desktop14:11
CerealGuy*-14:11
FloodBot1CerealGuy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.14:11
compdocCerealGuy, I use Ubuntu as a server OS, but I always install the desktop version14:11
CerealGuythe hoster has no desktop version :(14:12
yeatsCerealGuy: what are you trying to accomplish by installing VNC?14:12
CerealGuyjust centos but centos sucks :D14:12
skaNothing shows up in gnome-control-center: sound-> hardware14:12
CerealGuyi have to use some client with gui14:13
CerealGuy*s14:13
CerealGuyi can use all with command line, but i prefer gui14:13
yeatsCerealGuy: from the server?14:13
CerealGuyyes14:13
yeatsCerealGuy: oh - I see - ubuntu server is all CLI by default (since the GUI adds a lot of overhead the server)14:14
CerealGuymy question is, how to install the complete ubuntu desktop to an minimal ubuntu distro?14:14
Ticohow can i edit the grub bootline to set "noapic" permanent automatic?14:15
Troy^CerealGuy: if you want a gui on your server would suggest after isntalling server edition apt-get install lubuntu-desktop or apt-get install xubuntu-desktop14:15
CerealGuyi installed ubuntu-desktop14:15
Troy^CerealGuy: that is alot of overhead for a server14:15
CerealGuyi try lxde14:16
yeatsCerealGuy: that will do it, though - you should have the complete ubuntu desktop if you installed that package14:16
CerealGuyapt-get install lubuntu-desktop14:16
ChaoticanarchyXanyone up to helping me with my grub loader?14:16
Ironok, so I checked the driver page on ubuntu, it says "uninstall previous drivers". But doesn't say how, that's not helpful. So... how do I uninstall my previous drivers and catalyst control center that's sitting here?14:16
yeatsCerealGuy: note that uninstalling 'ubuntu-desktop' will not remove all the packages14:16
yeatsCerealGuy: I'd do this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu14:17
gordonjcpCerealGuy: running a GUI on a server is a fairly bad idea14:17
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carnauHi, I want to install Ubuntu 10.04 in my pc, but I have problems with the 3.x kernel. Is there any way to install it with 2.6?14:17
yeatsCerealGuy: and I agree with gordonjcp, fwiw - you don't usually have a gui on a server, but to each one's own14:17
Troy^carnau: why 10.04?14:17
carnauTroy^: ouch, I mean 12.0414:17
ChaoticanarchyXor is there anyother Ubuntu room dedicated to helping people that i can be directed to ?14:18
CerealGuyits just a remote desktop server, nothing more ^^14:18
Troy^carnau: what problems are you having with the kernel?14:18
gordonjcpCerealGuy: oh, you're actually using it as a desktop?14:18
Troy^ChaoticanarchyX: this is pretty much the ubuntu help channel.14:18
Ticoubottu: !nomodeset | Tico14:18
ubottuTico, please see my private message14:18
carnauTroy^: It returns a kernel panic when loading the cd. Something related with mce of my processor.14:19
ChaoticanarchyXdamn, i've asked two questions only to get no answers to each14:19
CerealGuygordonjcp, its a minimal server distro and i want to install vnc+ desktop environment14:19
Troy^carnau: what processor?14:19
ChaoticanarchyXactually your the only one so far to answer any questions lol14:19
gordonjcp!ask | CerealGuy14:20
ubottuCerealGuy: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:20
carnauIn a 12.04 installed in this pc, it reboots randomly.14:20
gordonjcpCerealGuy: bah, disregard14:20
gordonjcp!ask | ChaoticanarchyX14:20
ubottuChaoticanarchyX: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:20
Troy^hehe14:20
carnauTroy^: Intel i7 Quad Core14:20
Ironwhy is synaptic not installed...14:20
Troy^carnau: that doesn't really help14:20
carnauwait14:20
yeatsIron: synaptic is no longer installed by default14:21
freesandmy wireless doesn't work on 12.04 at home, but works everywhere else.  Also, other clients get wireless fine on home router.  I don't know where to start...14:21
carnauTroy^: Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.06 Bloomfield Socket 1366 LGA14:22
Troy^freesand: what wireless card do you own freesand14:22
yeatsfreesand: look in /var/log/syslog for messages around the time you tried to connect to wireless - there may be some cluse14:22
yeatss/cluse/clues/14:22
Ironwell14:23
Irontime to destroy my computer, wish me luck.14:23
CerealGuygood luck :D14:23
freesandproduct: NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe14:23
freesand       vendor: Broadcom Corporation14:23
Ironasrock motherboard?14:24
Troy^freesand: that is not wireless14:24
freesandproduct: AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)14:24
freesand       vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.14:24
semitonesHey -- why does apt-get say that linux-generic is being "held back" -- is that a problem?14:24
freesandsorry14:24
freesandit's weird... I'm at work and wireless works flawlessly.  At home, it resolves ip but wont resolve sites... pings are normal14:25
Troy^carnau: i don't know what to say i've been doing some searching but a more specific detail of the kernel panic would be ideal this is loading the live cd right? have you tried installing or does not let you go that far?14:25
Troy^freesand: there you go that is a dns issue14:25
Troy^freesand: that would have helped in your original question :P14:26
freesandother clients don't have issues, so it's a dns issue on my laptop for that specific connection?14:26
Ironalso, I have to say, the ubuntu software centre is terrible.14:26
Troy^freesand: cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit14:26
Troy^freesand: correct.. are you trying to statically assign an ip or using dhcp?14:27
carnauTroy^: This is the first screen I see after load the cd: http://imgur.com/SVnNs14:27
freesandfor the laptop i use DHCP... my bros comp static wireless others use DHCP14:28
Ironunless you know what you are doing, you should use DHCP14:28
carnauTroy^: It happens with Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch... in their last versions. Works with 2.6 kernel, for example a ubuntu 9.04.14:28
freesandhave my a networking background.  Tshooting linux is new for me though14:29
Troy^freesand: cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit14:29
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freesand@troy 1 sec14:30
freesandhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1194800/14:30
compdocyoure using network manager14:31
Troy^compdoc: would assume so by looking at his /etc/network/interfaces14:32
freesandyeah, I don't set statics on my laptop... only servers14:33
compdocI use to not use it, but Ive begun to14:33
Troy^freesand: ok right click on your network manager and go connection information and copy and paste the information on that screen to http://paste.ubuntu.com14:34
semitonesHey -- why does apt-get say that linux-generic is being "held back" -- is that a problem?\14:35
Troy^semitones: no14:35
semitonesTroy^: why does it say that?14:35
Troy^semitones: your system most likely needs a restart from previous upgrades or current upgrades in order to do so14:36
semitonesTroy^: how can I check if I have a restart required?14:37
semitonesi know byobu knows about that somehow14:37
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Troy^semitones: not exactly sure tbh14:37
semitoneskk np :)14:37
rweaitnew Precise install on two laptops.  One laptop is fine.  The other has wireless fail after suspend/resume.  Filed wifi says it is connected.  disconnect/reconnect does not help. must reboot to get wifi back.  ideas?14:37
freesandI am going to have to do this when I am home.  I needed some info to narrow it down, I'll check DNS issues and if I can't figure it out I will come back.14:38
rweaitthinkpad T60 is fine. Thinkpad T61 has suspend wiki fail.14:38
Troy^freesand: alright14:38
rweaiter, suspend wifi fail.14:38
freesandthx for your time!14:39
compdocsemitones, you need to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade14:39
decciAny idea about migrate from internal samba authentication to LDAP authentication keeping the same functionalities.14:40
decciCurrently there is a working Samba domain controller. On this server we have the samba domain controller as well as a file server with different shares for each user including profiles. The PCs are connecting with Windows Roaming Profiles. The two servers are up and running14:40
Raju_nickName Raju- Natarajan here! I have installed bzr explorer and downloaded ubuntu manual.14:42
ActionParsnipdecci: i'd ask in #ubuntu-server too14:42
Raju_when a chapter is double clicked vi editor opens. how to made to gedit? any body knows where the setting is14:43
21WAAFEW9Raju_: chapter?14:44
danielaciao14:44
daniela!list14:44
ubottudaniela: No warez here! This is not a file sharing channel (or network); read the channel topic. If you're looking for information about me, type « /msg ubottu !bot ». If you're looking for a channel, see « /msg ubottu !alis ».14:44
Raju_any body knows how to set bzr explorer14:45
yeatsRaju_: under Settings -> Configuration -> User Configuration, there is an "editor" field14:47
randomdrakeHello there. I'm trying to setup notifications or irssi to go to my desktop. I thought that the libnotify direction would work but that doesn't seem to be the case. Any other suggestions?14:48
imyour-belahi14:49
siriusoneEXIT14:49
yeatsrandomdrake: I'm assuming you've seen this?: http://code.google.com/p/irssi-libnotify/wiki/MainPage - I've set it up before, but don't recall what all I did14:51
PeterGriffinI am compiling php installation. Should I install MySql-server prior14:58
yeatsPeterGriffin: why not use Ubuntu packages?15:00
PeterGriffinBecause I need earlier version15:00
Ironokay15:01
Psi-JackPeterGriffin: Earlier version than what?15:01
IronI cannot access my catalyst control center15:01
Ironit asks for my root password15:01
IronI provide my root password15:02
Ironand it says it's wrong15:02
auronandaceIron: you mean your users password15:02
IronI do, that's the password I use for performing sudo root actions15:02
Raju_can someone help me on bzr explorer?15:02
PeterGriffinPsi-Jack: earlier than the one, that will install with apt-get.15:02
jribRaju_: just ask your real question15:02
ActionParsnipIron: there is no root password in Ubuntu15:03
Psi-JackActionParsnip: Wrong.15:03
Ironthen why am I being asked for one, and why does it say the one i put in is wrong?15:03
ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: no, very right. Thee account is disabled and no password is set15:03
Psi-JackActionParsnip: There is no /default/ setup for a root password in Ubuntu, that doesn't mean it can't exist at all as your statement basically said. :p15:03
Raju_Dear jrib, i had installed bzr and loaded ubuntu manual. when double clicking section vim editor opens. can i change it to gedit?15:04
IronI need to access the catalyst control center, otherwise I cannot use my two monitors15:04
ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: i never said it can't exist. i'm going by default setups which is the safe bet15:04
Psi-JackActionParsnip: The very first thing I do every ubuntu installation is sudo over and SET a root password. :)15:04
ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: its bad practice and not needed15:04
ActionParsnipIron: can you give the output of:  ls /usr/share/applications | grep -i cata      Thanks15:05
Psi-JackActionParsnip: it's actually not, that whole logic of it being "bad practice" is a completely failed argument that will never be considered true.15:05
Ironbash: grep-i: command not found15:06
ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: you can get to a root prompt with:  sudo -i    you will then also be using your user environment rather than root's. Having more accounts enabled is more of a security risk than fewer15:06
Ironthere's the output15:06
ActionParsnipIron: note the space in my command15:06
MuelliIron: you missed a space between grep and "-i"15:06
ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: its not a failed argument at all15:06
Psi-JackActionParsnip: Been using Linux for 20 years. UNIX for even longer. Security through obfuscation is not true security. :p15:06
Ironheres the new output15:07
Ironroot@Robert1204:/home/robert#15:07
Ironroot@Robert1204:/home/robert#15:07
Ironuh oh15:07
FloodBot1Iron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.15:07
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adam2012Hello guys, I'm currently running 11.10. Is it worth updating to 12.04? Whats new? Cheers!15:07
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ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: it still uses your account and your settings rather than roots. It's not security through obfuscation at all. There are fewer accounts to compromise. Its a simple case of numbers15:07
Ironroot@Robert1204:/home/robert#15:07
Ironanyway, As you can see, now.... nothing happens at all15:08
Muelliadam2012: if you have a touchpad, middle click won't work. And if you try to connect via XMPP to a CACert signed server, it won't work either ;-)15:08
ActionParsnipIron: ok run:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit; ls /usr/share/applications | pastebinit      what is output? Thanks15:08
adam2012Muelli: Thanks for the advice. I may just stay old skool with my 11.10 for now.15:09
Psi-JackActionParsnip: Yes, and no. The two situations have their good and bad possibilities, but it does not make it less secure just to have a root password set. That statement alone is one of my biggest arguments against Ubuntu on the front line, because it's inaccurate. It's the easy way out, only, and a major cause to problems, especially if sudo itself ever breaks.15:09
Ironhttp://pastebin.com/mjiY7mQu15:10
Ironperhaps i should close synaptic hehe15:10
adam2012Does anybody know anything about dual screen support for Ubuntu?15:10
ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: the fewer things that can be attacked the more secure you will be15:10
dr_willis!anyone15:10
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.15:10
Ironadam, you get an error too? saying your resolution isnt allowed?15:10
rweaitadam2012: :It just works" for me.15:10
ActionParsnipIron: do you have software centre open or updates installing?15:11
Ironi do15:11
Ironclosed15:11
ActionParsnipIron: ok, rerun15:11
Ironit did something else, gonna say y15:11
ActionParsnipIron: it should give another url15:11
adam2012rweait: I need to invest in a new graphics card. What are you using at the moment?15:11
wingyubuntu seems to be the most popular distro15:11
Ironhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1194867/15:12
rweaitadam2012: external vga connector on laptop.  I never think about the video adaptor.15:12
Psi-JackActionParsnip: That blanket statement is the worst of them all. ;)15:12
Ironoh by the way, I'm one of those users who will manage to break something even if it shoulnd't be possible to break15:13
adam2012rweait: I only have one VGA Port lol. I guess that will be a problem?15:13
rweaitHad no trouble with inexpensive dual output cards on a desktop machine when I tried a few years back.15:13
dr_willistotally depends on the chipser of the video card.15:13
ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: its tre for most things, its why we close network sockets down with firewalls, less to attack15:13
rweaitPerhaps somebody interested in high performance video will chime in?15:13
IronI have a 585015:14
ActionParsnipIron: what is the output of:  grep /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-amdcccle.desktop | grep -i exec15:14
Ironcan't get two separate signals15:14
dr_willisIron:  nvidia?15:14
adam2012Would it be at all possible to run one screen via VGA and one via HDMI? Sorry for the stupid questions, I'm a noob.15:14
Ironati15:14
Ironit just sits there actionparsnip15:14
Ironblinking curser15:15
Ironno other output.....15:15
dr_willisIron:  try making sure both are plugged in and on at boot time, try the fglrx drivers.   try any laptop monitor toggle keys.15:15
Ironadam: yes, it should be very possible.15:15
IronI have two screen displays15:16
Ironbut theyre mirrored15:16
dr_willisadam2012:  yhat can work15:16
adam2012Thanks guy. I'm looking into it now.15:16
IronI have to get the catalyst control center administrator mode working to get this working.15:16
ActionParsnipIron: sorry15:16
MuelliIron: press ctrl+c and then  grep -i exec < /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-amdcccle.desktop15:16
ActionParsnipIron:  grep -i exec /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-amdcccle.desktop15:16
Psi-JackActionParsnip: No, actually. Why we close external ports out at the firewalls, is because those ports don't specifically need to be accessible to the world, as they could contain access or information that is meant strictly for internal use. Not because it merely reduces the attackable area, strictly. It does that /as well/, and you're only covering half the story with that blanket statement again. :)15:16
adam2012Iron: What do you mean by mirrored?15:16
Ironi mean I have two screens15:16
Ironshowing exactly the same image15:16
IronExec=amdcccle15:17
adam2012Oh. I'm looking to expand my work space. I'm finding I can't get alot done with just a 22' screen. Would be nice to grow the desktop.15:17
ActionParsnipIron: then run:  gksudo amdcccle15:18
IronI also wish to expand my space, but until I get fglrx and catalyst working15:18
ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: but its good practice..right?15:18
Ironthat seems to have done it15:18
adam2012Just wouldn't see the point in having the same image on both screens.15:19
Psi-JackActionParsnip: Of course, it's just /half/ the story, not the full story, that's what I'm specifically pointing out. :)15:19
ActionParsnipIron: yes, we worked out the command from the desktop file and ran it with gksudo which then runs it as root15:19
ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: so using fewer acounts is also a good practice by the same token15:19
dr_willisadam2012:  classroom training,  putting movie on a projector..15:19
Ironokay, I am going to go and modify the shortcut to do the same15:19
Ironas it is incorrect by default15:19
adam2012dr_willis: Oh such a great idea.15:19
Psi-JackActionParsnip: Actually, again, wrong. :)15:20
Psi-JackActionParsnip: In fact, on that one, VERY wrong.15:20
Ironi cannot modify the shortcut15:20
ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: i give. I'm getting back on topic now15:20
adam2012I was a little drunk last night, after coming back in from the pub I decided to hook my desktop up to my 55' TV. Lets just say Ubuntu is amazing and adapts to larger screens.15:20
daedaluzI have a ppa with newer version of xfce but I want to downgrade to the previous version now, how to do it?15:20
Ironhow do i modify the shortcut properties to launch gksudo amdcccle instead of amdxdg-su -c amdcccle15:20
dr_willisadam2012:  if the overscan settings dont mess you up.15:21
Ironbrb, restarting15:21
dr_willis!ppa-purge | daedaluz15:21
Psi-JackActionParsnip: heh, I'm usually also in #ubuntu-server, too. I could definitely teach you quite a few things and misconceptions you've been poisoned with. ;)15:22
ubottudaedaluz: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html15:22
adam2012Anyways. Thank you so much for your help guys. I'm going to head off now. Much love.15:23
ActionParsnipPsi-Jack: i'll pass for now15:23
rweaitany thoughts on my Thinkpad 61?  Wifi fails to reconnect after suspend resume.  Manual switch-off, switch-on, doesn't reconnect.  reboot required.  Feels wrong. :(15:23
ActionParsniprweait: if you unload and reload the driver module, does it work ok15:23
rweaitThis is a new Precise upgrade.  no such problems when it used 9.10.15:23
adam2012rweait: I had the same issue when installing ubuntu onto my tablet. Turns out my wireless card wasn't supported. I had to go out and buy an external dongle.15:24
rweaitActionParsnip:  I'll give that a go.15:25
Ironokay, it worke,d the unworked, I can now configure displays within ubuntus displays gui menu15:25
Ironso, success15:25
IronThanks ActionParsnip15:25
n3lthonhi again15:26
Ironwhat's the command for opening gui thing again? gtksu acccle?15:26
Ironjust in case i need to do it again in the future...15:26
ActionParsnipIron: run:   history   and you will see15:26
dubacoIron:  can you be more specific?15:26
Ironoh that's awesome, wish windows had a history command.15:26
dubacoActionParsnip: high five (i would have got that)15:26
jjschoenI would like to run Amarok 2.6, but the ppa that would install it seems to only be available for (K)ubuntu. Since I'm running Precise, would that be a terrible idea to try adding it?15:26
ActionParsnipdubaco: hehe takes a bit :)15:27
n3lthonActionParsnip: i deleted the data partition and ubuntu still dont detect it. only shows a /dev/sda without partition table15:27
auronandacejjschoen: adding any ppa is a terrible idea15:27
ActionParsnipn3lthon: was the NTFS healthy?15:27
sliddjurwhen i try to delete a newly created folder in my home folder. i get a "no such file or dir"15:27
daedaluzjjschoen: Kubuntu and Ubuntu have same base, nothing to worry15:27
Ironwhat the, gtksudo command not found15:28
ActionParsnipsliddjur: does it show up in:  ls15:28
Ironwhat havei  done wrong now15:28
sliddjurmkdir ayes15:28
sliddjuryes15:28
auronandaceIron: gksudo15:28
ActionParsnipIron: the history command will show you the last commands you ran, should show you what's what15:28
Ironthat would do it. well, it's nearly 2am, time for sleep. But yes, I shall be back tomorrow to bother you guys some more15:29
Ironmaybe someday I'll be helping beginners15:29
ActionParsnipIron: it'll happen :)15:29
n3lthonActionParsnip: 0 kb in bad sectors and no problems15:30
rymate1234I help beginners when I can be bothere15:30
dr_willissliddjur:  how are you deleting it?15:31
jjschoenaurondance: because SW updated independently of the OS release can break it? daedaluz: The (K)ubuntu ppa seemed to have many other packages and tried to do a large number of updates, is there a risk in letting it do so?15:31
sliddjurdr_willis: I got it. first i created a dir: mkdir a,bc,d I thought that was three folders. Then i tried to remove them one by one.15:31
Ironhey, i remember there being a command to test opengl15:32
sliddjurwas obviosuly just one dir15:32
Ironwhat is it, gears or something or other?15:32
ActionParsnipn3lthon: is the windows partition dynamic?15:32
daedaluzjjschoen: obviously, linux is a pretty priitive system with way too many things interlinked than is healthy15:32
daedaluzso your mileage may wary15:32
n3lthonActionParsnip: how can i see that?15:33
daedaluzthat's why linux distros do batshit ridiculous things, like freezing all packages for years, like Ubuntu and Debian15:33
ActionParsnipn3lthon: windows disk manager]15:33
daedaluzbecause of the primitivity and clusterfuck of dependencies like MSDOS all over again15:33
renodei keep getting ln: failed to create symbolic link `/dev/null': File exists when linking a log file to dev null15:33
Ironglxgears15:33
renodeon 12.04, how can i fix this?15:33
Ironcommand not found, oh no15:34
ikoniadaedaluz: pull back the language please.15:34
daedaluzikonia: requesting suitable synonym for words "batshit" and "clusterfuck"15:34
daedaluzin context15:34
ikoniadaedaluz: sorry, you must have not understood when I warned you, "please stop using those words"15:34
daedaluzikonia: requesting suitable synonyms anyways15:35
daemongplrenode: entire command please?15:35
n3lthonActionParsnip: it is basic15:35
ikoniadaedaluz: I'm sure you can figure them out, talk politly to people using language that considered "polite"15:35
n3lthon*entire disk15:35
renode# ln -s /var/log/syslog /dev/null15:35
daedaluzikonia: no I can't, I'm not a native speaker15:35
Ironhmm, i seem to have vert sync.15:36
gordonjcpdaedaluz: heh, have you ever tried using Windows?15:36
mneptokdaedaluz: also, opinions on how Linux handels dependencies is !offtopic15:36
Ironactually, I will stop with the commentary unless it's something useful. Sorry.15:36
mneptok*handles15:36
T_H_Xrenode: eh?15:36
ikoniadaedaluz: "not very good"15:36
ikoniadaedaluz: "a mess"15:36
daedaluzikonia: lacks the harsh impact nuance15:36
ActionParsnipn3lthon: set it to dynamic15:37
rweaitI'm having clue-block on remove and reload the wifi module.  An assist please?  :-)15:37
ikoniadaedaluz: it doesn't need it, look this isn't a language class. If you don't know the word without using a swear word, don't speak15:37
ActionParsnipn3lthon: basically the other option it can be15:37
renodeT_H_X i was responding to daemongpl15:37
T_H_Xrenode, strange command15:37
Ironalright,6342fps in glxgears15:37
Ironhow good is that?15:37
n3lthonActionParsnip: i will need to install windows again?15:37
daedaluzikonia: in context those are not swear words altough they do include swear words15:37
renodeHow so?15:37
ActionParsnipn3lthon: no, you can just change it15:38
T_H_Xpiping dev/null to syslog15:38
nurpseHi, I want to learn how to setup dns, web and mysql servers and make them all work together. I have available with me, a powerful server where I can create a bunch of virtual servers, Only one statis IP. Can I make a production like setup with this accessible to the world?15:38
ikonianurpse: sure15:38
gordonjcpnurpse: yes15:38
daemongplrenode: you trying to throw away the syslog?15:38
gordonjcpnurpse: the great thing about using virtual servers that you can create is that when you end up making a hideous unusable mess you can nuke it and go back to the last working one ;-)15:39
renodeI am15:39
n3lthonActionParsnip: done, now ubuntu detect the partition?15:39
sliddjurCan only a user own a folder. or can a group do?15:39
nurpseI have router, how would this work. I mean I have only one IP, do I need to port forward.15:39
gordonjcpnurpse: yes15:39
renodeUnless you have another way of destroying openSSH logs?15:39
nurpseBasically all the servers will have only one IP visible to the world15:39
gordonjcpnurpse: they will be using different ports, though15:39
ActionParsniprweait: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    look for the driver=   bit15:39
ActionParsnipn3lthon: should do yes15:40
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gordonjcprenode: What exactly are you trying to do?15:40
renodeMake SSH logless15:40
n3lthonActionParsnip: just one question, my system uses uefi and grub will work as usual?15:40
renode*ssh-server15:40
gordonjcprenode: turn off logging in the config files, then15:40
IronHey, I don't want to know how just yet, yes or know answer is requested: Can I copy my ubuntu install to a flash drive and have it work with little modification?15:40
gordonjcprenode: it's a pretty stupid idea though15:41
nurpseSo for example, I can forward MYIP:80 to vm hosting webserver, MYIP:3307?15:41
renodewhich config file? because its not sshd_config15:41
renodeLogLevel NONE ?15:41
Ironoh well, cyas now15:41
gordonjcprenode: yes15:42
gordonjcprenode: why on earth do you want to do that?15:42
semitonesHey -- is there a screen command to tell me if I'm still inside of a screen?????15:42
gordonjcpsemitones: <ctrl-a> <?>15:42
gordonjcpshould bring up the help screen15:42
semitonesgordonjcp: thanks15:43
rweaitActionParsnip, got it "iwl3945"15:43
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yeatsrenode: see 'man sshd_config' for the possible options15:43
T_H_Xrenode: just edit /etc/default/ssh15:44
quiescenseven if you tell sshd not to log connections, chances are logging in will be logged by something which sshd has no particular control over15:44
rweaithunh.  rmmod iwl3945 worked to remove the module.  insmod iwl3945 said no such file or directory.15:44
renodewhich is why i wanted to /dev/null syslog15:44
T_H_Xrenode: SSHD_OPTS="-e /dev/null"15:44
quiescensalso, i didn't think anything ssh related goes to syslog anyway15:44
ActionParsnipsudo modprobe -r iwl3945; sleep 2; sudo modprobe iwl394515:44
daemongplrenode: seems like you got the help :) I had to take a call15:44
ActionParsniprweait: ^15:44
renodebut T_H_X i get the error of 'File Exists'15:45
T_H_Xrenode: to dev null syslog you do ln -s /dev/null /var/log/syslog15:45
renodeoh15:45
T_H_X:D15:45
renodewell, that would make sense, wouldnt it? :) My bad15:45
mathihi15:46
ActionParsnipn3lthon: not used uefi, sorry15:46
mathiwhere is the startup directory in ubuntu ?15:46
ActionParsnipmathi: ~/.config/autostart15:47
mathiActionParsnip, some website says it's /etc/init.d/15:47
yeatsrenode: I would strongly recommend *not* doing that, especially if all you're trying to do is control sshd logging15:47
n3lthonActionParsnip: thank you15:47
renodewhat would you recommend then yeats?15:48
quiescensshrugs, i doubt it will even do what is wanted15:48
yeatsrenode: using the loglevel in sshd_config15:48
rweaitActionParsnip: module appears to unload/reload properly.  No error from modprobe.  wifi icon on status bar goes through disconnect, then reconnect animation.  disconnect and reconnect messages popup as expected. But firefox  says, firefox can't find the server at yahoo.ca ...15:48
danieldeusinghow can i check if a script is already running using pidof ?15:48
danieldeusingpidof -s programname15:49
danieldeusingthat works well, but i have a space15:49
renodeAnd, thats not the only logs im trying to prevent15:49
renodeSo thanks guys15:49
danieldeusingthe process is "/bin/bash ./processname.sh"15:49
ActionParsniprweait: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?15:49
yeatsrenode: I guess I don't understand the purpose, but you'll have a hard time if you ever need to troubleshoot a subtle issue15:49
ActionParsnipdanieldeusing: could use:  ps -ef | grep name15:49
yeatsoh - he's gone15:49
rweaitnetwork is unreachable.15:49
ActionParsniprweait: hmm, sometimes works15:50
danieldeusingno i cant ActionParsnip, my ps does not have any attribs15:50
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danieldeusingits a tiny angstrom15:50
T_H_Xyeats: can always re enable it i there is an issue, but yea,not the best idea.15:50
vkasi am stuck with broken packages15:50
vkasplease help http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194915/15:50
ActionParsnipdanieldeusing: you can still grep for the process name15:50
danieldeusingsure that i can15:51
* yeats depends on logs for troubleshooting and can't imagine why someone wouldn't need them too15:51
rweaiteth1 now has a different ip addr netblock.  Claims to be on same accesspoint though.15:51
danieldeusingbut, i thought its easier and faster using pidof15:51
danieldeusingonly that i have the problem having the space in the process15:51
T_H_Xyeats: becaue they can ;)15:51
danieldeusingthe other process i am checking with pidof and its fine15:51
ActionParsnipvkas: try:  wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage15:52
ActionParsnipdanieldeusing: then just grep for a bit of the name15:52
vkasactionparsnip: thanks, i will tell you if that worked15:52
a-l-ereading https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage did not really help :-(15:53
a-l-eis there any informatino on how i should prepare my source code to upload it to my ppa repository?15:54
a-l-edo i have to learn how to create .deb packages before?15:54
dr_willisit would  be a good thing to learn for any developer to knw how to make  debs15:56
a-l-ereally, what can i read to learn how to create a .ppa?15:56
rweaitinteresting.  on reboot, wifi gets a 192.168.3.* from the AP.  Expected. on unload/ reload, wifi gets 10.42.0.* from "same AP" (not expected), and surfing fails.15:56
ikoniaespecially managing dependencies and conflicts.15:56
tippeneinI get "waiting for network configuration" on startup after updating to 12.0415:56
a-l-ei have the feeling that i'm in a labyirinth of things i don't really need...15:56
a-l-ebut i've not found any directions about files i should create or how it all should work...15:57
a-l-e... is there any how-to which does not teach me how to fix bug on ubuntu?15:57
ActionParsniprweait: do you have a static IP set, or do you ever connect to a 10.42.0.0/24 network?15:57
ikoniaa-l-e: learn how to build software, then package it, then how to host a PPA15:57
a-l-eikonia: i've been building software for the last ten years...15:57
a-l-eso, what's the next step?15:57
ikoniaa-l-e: learn how to package software for the distribution you want15:58
a-l-ewhere do i learn how to package it for a ppa?15:58
ikoniano, not package it for a PPA15:58
ikoniapackage it15:58
ikoniathen learn how to host a PPA15:58
rweaitActionParsnip, there should not be a static ip set on that laptop.  I don't have a 10.42.0 network to connect to, here.15:58
a-l-eikonia: package it in a zip? in a tar? in a deb?15:58
NaeblisHi. I'm on Natty, and Ubuntu keeps crashing. I'm getting this on the screen: http://i.imgur.com/xud9N.jpg15:59
ikoniaa-l-e: well, as you'd be packaging it for ubuntu (I assume) a deb would be the correct package formwa15:59
ikoniaformat15:59
Naeblisany idea what's going on?15:59
a-l-eall i want is to be able to upload a .ppa of a development snapshot of scribus to my own repository.15:59
a-l-eikonia: no idea, you tell me.15:59
tippeneinI can get network manager running after startup w/ /etc/init.d/network-manager start15:59
tippeneinbut it shouldn't be disabled on startup15:59
ikoniaa-l-e: are you packaging this software for ubuntu ?15:59
hjuythi. i want to install ubuntu on my old pc (xp now). My problem is when i try to make the usb the start up disk creator says i have the wrong md5sum. i've checked in the terminal and it's not wrong. how to fix this?16:00
a-l-eikonia: yes16:00
a-l-ei'm going to package it for ubuntu.16:00
a-l-eas said, the goal is to create a ppa which people will be able to download to test specific features.16:00
ikoniaa-l-e: ok, so packaging it for a deb format would be a good process to follow16:00
ikoniaa-l-e: yes, however understanding how to build/manage software for your target distro is wise before just dumping it on a PPA to use the build process16:00
ActionParsniprweait: tried rebooting the router, then the system16:00
a-l-eikonia: sorry, i'm not intersted in it.16:01
ikonia(assuming you want a good software package and valid test results)16:01
nate__I am wondering if the result of struts execute method is not success and you have this action what does it do I am assuming it doesn;t go to the /HellowWorld.jsp ?16:01
nate__ <action name="hello"16:01
nate__            class="com.tutorialspoint.struts2.HelloWorldAction"16:01
nate__            method="execute">16:01
nate__            <result name="success">/HelloWorld.jsp</result>16:01
FloodBot1nate__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.16:01
nate__      </action>16:01
n3lthon_ActionParsnip: still the same on disk partitioning.16:01
ActionParsniphjuyt: then redownload the ISO16:01
ikoniaa-l-e: ok, then I'm not interested in helping you16:01
a-l-ethat's fair16:01
ikoniaa-l-e: the documentation for PPA's is on launchpad and the ubuntu wiki16:01
rweait ActionParsnip: shall do.16:01
nate__sorry can somebody answer that16:01
ActionParsnipa-l-e: could also ask in #launchpad16:01
ActionParsnipn3lthon_: not sure then dude16:01
hjuytActionParsnip: I've tried both 12.04.1 and 12.0416:01
a-l-eActionParsnip: ok, i'll try that.16:01
a-l-ei really want to have the package out this evening. not read manuas for the next week...16:02
ActionParsniphjuyt: download the ubuntu 12.04.1 ISO, MD5 test it then use unetbootin and point the app to the downloaded ISO file16:02
ikoniaa-l-e: I really don't want you to upload junk without understanding what you're doing, so we are at an empass16:02
mathihey16:02
ActionParsnipikonia: can I PM you please dude16:02
ikoniaActionParsnip: sure thing16:02
mathihow can I check if program noip2 is running ?16:02
hjuytActionParsnip: Did this (for the 12.04) and I just get a black screen with a blinking cursor when I try to boot from usb16:03
a-l-eikonia: btw, i'm not interested in the quality because for now it's just about providing the ppa... the goal is not at all to be added to the official repositories or something like this.16:03
n3lthon_ActionParsnip: here is a screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/screenshotfrom201209091.png/16:04
a-l-eit just has to be correct enough to install and not corrupt the users' computer16:04
ikoniaa-l-e: PPA's are still used by people, so I'm not interestd in you iploading junk16:04
rocket_hamster@mathi type ps -A | grep noip2 into terminal16:04
ikoniaa-l-e: try #launchpad as ActionParsnip has suggested16:04
a-l-eyep, but it won't ever leave the development status.16:04
BluesKaja-l-e, , but if you're going host a ppa , then the apps provided on it should work16:05
ActionParsnipn3lthon_: not sure, maybe others can help16:05
BluesKajActionParsnip, what's a 10.42.0.0/24 network ?16:05
mathirocket_hamster, I opened additional startup programs and added "/usr/local/bin/noip2", but the process isn't running after reboot16:06
mathirocket_hamster, can you please help16:06
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: 10.42.0.1 to 10.42.0.254 IPs16:06
a-l-eBluesKaj:  yep, it should work. and i'm looking for an howto explaining how to do it.16:06
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: th /24 dictates the left most binary values are for the network, the rest for hosts16:07
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: its a common network for home grade routers. Something like 192.168.0.0/24 :)16:08
n3lthon_ActionParsnip: thanks, hope that someone else can help me :/16:09
BluesKajActionParsnip, thanks, I assume these IPs are assigned by certain router brands16:09
Braden`Hello16:09
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Braden`Is there a way to install openjdk without having to install x11?  I don't want xwindows on my server16:09
rocket_hamster@mathi are you sure it is not running?16:09
ActionParsnipBluesKaj: there are countless 192.168.0.0/24 networks, they just have a unique IP on the WAN side of the router (which you pay for)16:10
nate__where does the .action and .do in struts come from. Is that how you access the action name or something16:10
mathirocket_hamster, I understand why now, because I need to use "sudo". So I need another way to add this program in startup...16:10
ActionParsnipBraden`: I have a PPA for oracle java 7 if you want....16:10
Braden`PPA?16:11
jeepmathi: rc.local can be used to execute stuff16:11
Braden`Sorry, not familiar with the acronym16:11
Braden`=]16:11
mathijeep how can I add a command to rc.local ?16:12
rocket_hamster@mathi http://tempvariable.blogspot.sk/2009/07/how-to-add-program-to-run-at-startup-in.html16:12
jeepmathi: with a text editor16:12
mathijeep, rocket_hamster,  i tried something, I will reboot now16:12
mathithanks! hope it works!16:13
daemongplBarden: Personal Package Archive16:13
Braden`Sure, that would be great16:13
ldiamondHow do I create a panel icon/shortcut that will change the default grub entry and reboot into windows automatically? Without asking for a password (when I restart it doesn't ask me for a pw)16:15
Braden`ActionParsnip:  I would appreciate it if you could send that to me please.  Otherwise, I am going to have to try and find out a way to install openjdk without having to install x11...16:15
ActionParsnipBraden`: sure16:17
ActionParsnipBraden`: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer16:18
sfearsi was having problems with the webupd8team repository the other day16:19
n3lthon_ActionParsnip: output from fdisk -l : http://pastie.org/469094216:20
Braden`ActionParsnip:  It still wants to install x11-common.  That does not mean its going to install xwindows does it?16:21
sfearsdid you try to dd a partition onto your hard drive n3lthon_?16:22
ActionParsnipBraden`: can you do --no-recommends etc?16:24
sfearsmy screen backlight turns off after grub splash... i have to use "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=00" blindly in a console to turn it back on.  I have this problem with Ubuntu 12 & Mint 13.  If i use BackTrack I can see the whole plymouth splash.  Is it a difference in the kernel being used that makes it work by default?16:25
Braden`That did it16:27
Braden`Excellent!  Thanks! =]16:27
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piezohey guys, somebody there?... im using precise, its using upstart, which has its config in /etc/init, do i need /etc/init.d ? cause we dont use sysv init16:30
trismpiezo: some packages don't support upstart yet so /etc/init.d/ is still needed for compatibility16:32
bhast2When I am install Ubuntu beside Windows 8 when I go to pick the size of the HD is it the one on the left or the right for Ubuntu??16:32
piezotrism: ill do it myself if i ran into problems16:32
piezosure im only running a bare bones system on my panda16:32
sfearspost a screen shot bhast216:33
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piezotrism: im just coming from a debian system, so ill try it to remove and see if i have some problems16:33
piezoso generally its safe to remove16:33
piezo?16:33
Dan_I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of a good explanation for what belongs in /usr/share ? I'm messing around with Wordpress and the documentation says to put my installation in there but not why it belongs there and I want to understand better.16:33
bhast2@sfears hold on16:33
dazukohello all, i'm here for looking for help.16:35
Troy^my server doesn't have a monitor connected to it tripped breaker so it wasnt shut down properly.. i turned machine on and it seems as though none of my processes such as ssh and other apps that are daemons aren't starting. so perhaps it's is not booting into ubuntu server would there be a reason for this? do i need to hook it up to a monitor16:35
dazukosomebody could help me, please?16:36
fluziosdazuko: hello, some of us is here looking to give help16:36
Troy^!help | dazuko16:36
ubottudazuko: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:36
ActionParsnipDan_: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/16:36
dazukoactually, i want to know how to connect 2 PC's in ubuntu. I'm new in using it.16:37
ubuntucrazyhello to all16:37
utu-sandazuko: get a switch and then use ssh16:37
dtrubyDan_: The Filesystem Hierachy Standard says that /usr/share is supposed to be for architecture independent files (http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_2.3/fhs-2.3.html#USRSHAREARCHITECTUREINDEPENDENTDATA)16:37
imissfloppyhi everyone, i just formatted my pc with ubuntu but i accidentally deleted my partition table on the second drive. Any way i can restore it ?16:37
imissfloppyi am on windows 7 currently16:37
ActionParsnipdazuko: connect in what way?16:38
Shadalhey guru's ... Every couple of minutes my system is logging the following...16:38
Shadalkernel: iptables denied: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:00:25:90:3d:47:82:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=0 DF PROTO=216:38
ShadalDo I have an error in my config somewhere?16:38
ActionParsnipimissfloppy: use your backups16:38
dazukoi need to connect through LAN cable.16:38
utu-sandazuko: routers works too16:38
imissfloppyActionParsnip: what backup ?16:38
ActionParsnipdazuko: to achieve what?16:38
imissfloppyi was on a live cd :(16:38
bhast2http://cubeupload.com/im/MIYP3D.jpg16:38
ActionParsnipimissfloppy: the bacjkups you make of your data16:38
Troy^dazuko: you talking about internet sharing? or just sharing files?16:38
imissfloppyActionParsnip: the backups WAS on the second drive :(16:39
ActionParsnipdazuko: ping the server, it uses TCP so is a connection16:39
imissfloppythis is what i lost16:39
dazukoi just want to share some folders in my PC's.16:39
ActionParsnipimissfloppy: then run another backup and it will recreate the data, surely?16:39
virparaBraden`>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them16:39
virparaBraden`>>  go there to know about PPA16:39
ActionParsnipdazuko: good, thats a LOT more than 'connect' isn't it....16:39
utu-sandazuko: just coonect both pc to the same router/switch16:39
bhast2sfears: http://cubeupload.com/im/MIYP3D.jpg16:39
imissfloppyActionParsnip: how do i run another backup, what app should i use ?16:39
utu-sanconnect*16:40
ActionParsnipdazuko: if it is between 2 ubuntu systems you can install openssh-server and nautilus can mount the SFTP16:40
ActionParsnipimissfloppy: whatever you used before16:40
dazukois there any link to show me how? i do really "blind" in my new ubuntu machine :)16:40
ubuntucrazyim having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!16:41
imissfloppyActionParsnip: eum, i formated with a live cd16:41
Troy^dazuko: here is how to install ssh https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html16:41
imissfloppyActionParsnip: there is no backup....16:41
phoenixmanhi, i am trying to install windows 7 as the second operating system in my HDD, which already has Ubuntu 12.04, but i am getting an error "setup was unable to create a new system partition or locate an existing system partition. see the setup log files for more information"16:41
ubuntucrazyim having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!16:41
ActionParsnipdashavoo: install openssh-server on the system you want access to, the in nautilus use the connect to server feature16:41
ActionParsnipimissfloppy: I thought you said the wiped drive was a backup...16:41
ActionParsnipimissfloppy: therefore the data which you had backed up but now lost still has the standing original. You can reback it up16:42
dazukowell, i will open the link first. i'll be coming back if i find more problem :) thanks.16:42
Dan_dtruby, thanks. It also says it should be for files that don't get modified, but a wordpress install is constantly being modified no?16:42
bhast2When installing Ubuntu beside Windows when making the HD partition for Ubuntu is it the one on the left or the right http://cubeupload.com/im/MIYP3D.jpg16:43
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ubuntucrazyhow do i edit grub in the command line?16:43
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David-Aimissfloppy: if only partition table was corrupted and not the data, testdisk may be able to restore it16:44
ubuntucrazywhat's the command keys?16:44
fluziosbhast2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138510/in-the-installer-when-splitting-an-existing-partition-which-side-is-which16:45
bhast2thanks fluzios16:45
ActionParsnipubuntucrazy: what do you want to achieve?16:45
fluziosbhast2: press the Alt key16:45
David-Aimissfloppy: (and i dont understand when you say you lost data when the backup was destroyed. with a backup you have the data in 2 places. if either is lost, the other remains.)16:46
dtrubyDan_: afaik anything in /usr is supposed to be read-only. Would the wordpress install actually keep the blog files in it's install directory? I don't know anything about wordpress but I'd assume the install directory doesn't get modified much16:46
bhast2nice fluzios16:47
bhast2didn't know you could do that16:47
bhast2finally installing Ubuntu16:48
Dan_dtruby, yeah, wordpress keeps everything in a single directory. I suppose the files wouldn't get modified much once the install is up and running other than user uploaded content (images, attachments, etc)16:48
bhast2if i like it I may just switch fully to it16:48
Troy^ok i have a question, I have my external drive in my fstab i noticed on boot when not connected i have to hit 'S' to bypass this point is there some sort of parameter to put in fstab to just skip past if it does not detect the external drive?16:48
fluziosbhast2: i didn't either, kinda sad that there isn't a "more info"-button16:48
ShapeShifter499hi16:49
ActionParsnipubuntucrazy: in what way do you want to edit grub?16:49
ShapeShifter499what would you suggest if I wanted to have a automatic import/move of all my photos whenever there is a new one  found to a folder without overwriting every 15 or more minutes?  I am currently running ubuntu 12.04 and I'm not quite sure how to set it up16:49
bhast2fluzios: Yeah that would be nice16:49
phoenixmanhas any one read my post?16:49
tzvihi i jost downloaded by mistake a update for my linux kernel firmware and my somputer dosent work well something is wrong with it, how can i uninstall the update?16:49
ActionParsnipShapeShifter499: you could cron an rsync command16:49
ActionParsnipphoenixman: you will need to boot to ubuntu liveCD to resize the ubuntu partition16:50
ActionParsnipphoenixman: once you get windows installed you will need to boot back to the liveCD to reinstate grub as the Windows installer will overwrite the MBR16:51
phoenixmanActionParsnip, i know that part16:51
dazukoBTW, can i just set a wired connection between 2 PC's through "Network Connection" menu? I'm still waiting for open-ssh installation to complete coz my internet is so slow.16:51
phoenixmanActionParsnip, i have formated a 100GB partition to ntfs for windows to install on it16:51
tzvihow can  uninstall a linux kernel firmware update?16:51
phoenixmanActionParsnip, but its not getting installed on it16:51
dtrubyDan_: Possibly if you were strictly following the FHS you could put it in /opt/wordpress or something similar. /opt is intended for third-party software and there's no limitation on its use. Unless you're planning on mounting /usr read-only it doesn't really matter that much though16:51
ActionParsnipphoenixman: I'd make it unpartitioned and let the windows installer use the space and format it itself16:52
phoenixmanActionParsnip, you mean keep it unallocated and let the windows do its stuff16:52
ActionParsnipphoenixman: yes16:52
Dan_dtruby, thanks, the more I'm talking to people about this the more I'm realizing this is just one of those "quirky linux things" that makes it tough for noobs like me :)16:52
phoenixmanActionParsnip, i tried that, but no success16:52
Dan_dtruby, I think I'm just going to put it in /usr/share and change the permissions to allow the www-data group to edit all that. Seems like the way to go16:53
phoenixmanActionParsnip, should i be asking this in some other channel?16:53
Dan_dtruby, thanks for helping me work it out!16:53
sstaDan_: if you install WP from the repo, it doesn't keep files in /usr.  It keeps them in /var/lib (with a symlink)16:53
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ActionParsnipphoenixman: could try in ##windows16:53
Troy^ok i have a question, I have my external drive in my fstab i noticed on boot when not connected i have to hit 'S' to bypass this point is there some sort of parameter to put in fstab to just skip past if it does not detect the external drive?16:53
Dan_ssta, really? I haven't tried it but just read someone else say that the repo installs it to /usr/share and you put a simlink in /var/www16:54
sstaDan_: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Jan 16  2012 blogs.dir -> /var/lib/wordpress/blogs.dir16:54
auronandaceTroy^: why did you add it to fstab?16:54
sfearsmy screen backlight turns off after grub and i don't see a splash... i have to use "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=00" blindly in a console after boot to turn it back on.  This happens with Ubuntu 12 & Mint 13.  If i use BackTrack I can see the whole splash, no problems at all.  Is it the kernel being used that makes a difference or can i cut a part out of something backtrack uses?16:54
tomek_hi folks, maybe someone would be able to give me a hint ;) I installed lubuntu desktop over my ubuntu installation just for checking it out, then I removed it but the lubuntu splash screen remains while booting or shutting down. any idea how to fix this?16:54
sstaDan_: if you install from the repo you get a much better install than that...and get timely security updates.  This is why installing from repos is recommended16:54
phoenixmandoes linux have any thing called dynamic disc or basic disc?16:55
sfearstomek_: apt-cache search plymouth theme16:55
bhast2when you have two montiors does it always mirror16:55
ActionParsnipsfears: if you add it to the startup adds it will run after login16:55
Dan_ssta, I definitely believe you :) I'm partly just doing this to learn wtf is going on and why, not so much get it done for a production environment16:55
Troy^auronandace: headless server16:55
ubuntucrazyim having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!16:55
ActionParsnipsfears: could add it in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line and it may help too16:56
sfearsi have that part done ActionParsnip, but i still have no splash.  but it works fine with backtrack and i'm trying to find out where16:56
sstaDan_: install to a VM and play with stuff...take it apart to see how it works.  In general the design choices made by Debian are pretty good16:56
sfearsi've edited a couple of the grub.cfg lines but nothing worked16:56
Dan_ssta: one step ahead of you :) I'm on my 3rd vm right now (I break a lot of stuff)16:56
sfearsi've added a line to rc.local and added a few scripts to turn it back on after sleep ActionParsnip.  but i'd still like to figure out where it's not working on boot16:57
dtrubyDan_: breaking stuff in VMs is always the best way to learn how this stuff works imho :-)16:57
sstaDan_: one of the principles is that /usr can be read only.  If there's a package that violates that, it's a bug and should be reported as such16:58
ActionParsnipDan_: just backup the disk image and play, then when you want a reinstall just take a copy of the disk image16:58
ActionParsnipDan_: saves having to wait for reinstalls16:58
sfearsany other ideas ActionParsnip?  Is there something I can compile in a kernel to turn it on?16:59
ActionParsnipsfears: are there any bugs reported, otherwise no idea17:01
sfearsyeah, lots of bugs.  They all say to add the line to rc.local, but that's not deep enough17:01
dazukowell, somebody please show me how to set LAN between 2 PC's using Network Manager :)17:02
ActionParsnipsfears: tried Quantal installed on USB. See if it's the same?17:02
tomek_sfears: thx a lot17:02
sfearsi've tried the backtrack livecd ActionParsnip, and it stays lit the whole time.  but ubuntu & linux mint turn off right after grub17:03
sfearsquantal 12.04.1 ActionParsnip?17:04
ActionParsnipsfears: no, quantal is ubuntu 12.10 released next month but is in beta now17:05
sfearshumm, i guess i have not17:05
fluziosbhast2: no, you can have bigger desktop: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/08/ubuntu-tips-how-to-setup-dual-monitor/17:06
FrozenFireRunning 12.04, and finding that Warsow isn't in the Ubuntu repos any more (including partner repos). Any clue as to where I might be able to get it?17:06
ubuntucrazyim having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!17:07
ubuntucrazyany tips on how to restore my dsktop?17:07
dubacoubuntucrazy:  have you backed up?17:07
ubuntucrazyno not yet17:07
ubuntucrazyhow do i back up?17:08
dubaco!backup17:08
ubottuThere are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning17:08
ikoniaubuntucrazy: has your screen ever worked ? or did it never work ?17:08
greenithi, can i change the background of the grub anyhow?17:09
sfearsubuntucrazy: at the grub screen press e for edit and add nomodeset to the end of the line17:09
dubacoikonia: thats the same question twice17:09
ikoniagreenit: SPLASHIMAGE is the parameter17:09
ikoniadubaco: thanks for the worthless input17:09
ubuntucrazyikonia: yes my desktop worked before i upgraded17:09
ikoniaubuntucrazy: ok, so it's the upgrade that broke it17:09
ikoniaubuntucrazy: what video card do you have ?17:10
ubuntucrazyikonia: matrox17:10
ikoniaubuntucrazy: ok, so an ATI17:10
a-l-ei have ubuntu in a virtual machine... what's the correct way to add the virtualbox additions?17:10
ikoniaubuntucrazy: the upgrade was from 11.10 to 12.04 ? or some other version17:10
dr_willisati bought matrox?17:10
ubuntucrazypci17:10
ikoniadr_willis: not %100 certain17:11
a-l-e(btw, ikonia, i'm getting good help on launchpad to create a ppa)17:11
ikoniaa-l-e: I'm not interested.17:11
ubuntucrazyikonia: yes from 11.10 to 12.0417:11
dr_willis!vbox17:11
ubottuVirtualbox is a virtualizer for x86 and amd64 architectures. It's available in the package "virtualbox" in the !repositories, and you can download the Virtualbox Extension Pack for additional, non-Free functionality at http://virtualbox.org . Additional details can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox17:11
ikoniaubuntucrazy: can you be specific about the card make/model17:11
ikoniadr_willis: good spot, they are still "their own brand"17:11
ubuntucrazywait17:11
bhast2there we go17:12
bhast2fluzios : Thanks17:13
MelampoGuys can a ask you a question about IRC and xChat?17:13
FlowRiserMelampo, don't ask to ask, just ask :)17:13
MelampoI need to associate IRC link to xchat when I'm using Firefox17:13
Melamposo that, when I click an a channel link, xchat connets to that particolar channel17:14
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FlowRiserMelampo, i think you need to write an extension to firefox17:15
Melampowrite an entire extension?!17:15
MelampoLike in about:config?17:15
FlowRiserMelampo, it's not as hard as it sounds; just an extension to open an application;17:16
Melampowell, I don't even know how to begin17:17
FlowRiserMelampo, ask around, maybe on a Firefox channel ? it might be an even easier solution17:18
MelampoI'll try17:18
Melampothanks17:18
ubuntucrazyikonia: my graphics cardi is Matrox Graphics 32MB17:18
ikoniaubuntucrazy: ok,17:19
ikoniaubuntucrazy: do you know how to boot into recovery mode ?17:19
FlowRiserMelampo, also, get interested in opening xchat via a terminal and add channels and such17:19
Melampohow do I do that?17:19
ubuntucrazysfears: should choose a kernel at the grub screen to edit and add nomodeset at the end?17:20
ubuntucrazyikonia: how do i boot in recovery mode?17:21
FlowRiserMelampo, easy: type in terminal "man xchat"17:21
ikoniaubuntucrazy: you should have a recovery option on your grub menu17:21
ash_hi17:22
ash_anybody here17:22
ash_on Ubuntu?17:22
ash_:p17:22
FloodBot1ash_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:22
ash_Opes i am really sorry ;) juste wanted to know if anybody use Ubuntu ? :P17:22
ubuntucrazyikonia: yes. i did use all the recovery mode options at the grub menu but still the same17:23
FlowRiser!xchat17:23
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist - See also !Guidelines17:23
ikoniaubuntucrazy: really, you still get that if you hit the recovery shell option17:23
ActionParsnipash_: obviously, yes...17:23
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thequestionaireHi all ;)17:26
ubuntucrazyikonia: yes. all the options still the same17:28
ikoniaubuntucrazy: ok, so we know it's the framebuffer rather than X that's the issue in this situation17:28
thequestionaireWhat do you think is most stable17:28
thequestionaire10.04 10.10 11.04 11.10 or 12.04 ?17:28
ikoniathequestionaire: depends on many things, the LTS versions are normally a better option for long term stability17:29
ActionParsnipthequestionaire: 10.10 is no longer supported, 11.04 is nearly EOL and 10.04 desktop + 11.10 are EOL in April next year. So I'd go for 12.0417:29
thequestionaireok should i install 12.04 or 12.04.117:30
theadminOk, I'm on Kubuntu 12.04 and I have a silly problem. I can't find the Flash settings (installed Flash using flashplugin-installer from the repos).17:30
dazukohello again :) i have just installed openssh-client and server to connect my PC's as my plan. Then, what should i do next? I want to build a LAN connection.17:30
ActionParsnipthequestionaire: they are the same difference, as soon as you install 12.04 and run updates, you will have 12.04.117:30
ActionParsnipdazuko: don't you mean file share?17:31
thequestionairewell my neighbour says that i  never should take the .1 / .2 or so releases17:31
Troy^grr just lost all my music data17:31
Troy^lol17:31
xangua theadmin if you mean a Menu entry for flash settings, you need adobe-flashplugin from Partner repository for that17:31
dazukoyes, for a file/folder sharing :)17:31
theadminxangua: Oh geez, thanks17:31
ActionParsnipdazuko: dude you really need to drop this 'connection' word. It means nothing at all17:31
thequestionairewell my neighbour says that i  never should take the .1 / .2 or so releases17:31
ActionParsnipdazuko: open nautils and click file -> connect to serve and you can enter the IP and credentials on the other side and you will see the data17:32
ActionParsnipdazuko: as you are using SFTP, you can port forward on the router and access the data from anywhere on the web securely17:32
ubuntucrazyikonia: what to do if it's the framebuffer that causes the issue? any steps?17:32
Kroachwhen publishing an Ubuntu One file using the context menu in Nautilus, is there a way to get the URL without going to the U1 web intereface?17:32
xanguathequestionaire: sounds like your neighbour doesn't install security updates17:32
jake_any alternative pulseaudio17:33
* bhast2 is still installing17:33
bhast2this is taking awhile17:33
thequestionairexangua, he said updates are making the pc slower and more unsafe and he also said that the 12.04 mark shuttleworth himself built and1 2.04.1 is a community project17:34
thequestionaire.17:34
xanguasecurity updates make system unsafe... wow17:34
BluesKajjake_, only if you don't mind no audio on websites , afaik17:35
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Flannelthequestionaire: your neighbor is incorrect on a number of points.  You actually can't even get 12.04 anymore, only 12.04.117:35
tpriceim getting this error with UEC "Error 60: server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none" is anyone else getting the same error? is there a fix i can do it get it working?17:36
TicoI got stuck at ubuntu splash screen with five dots on ubuntu 12.0417:36
dr_willis12.04.1 is 12.04 with the updates included on the iso.17:36
ActionParsnipTico: what GPU do you use?17:37
jake_BluesKay, lame17:37
ash_Ubuntu 12.04 is really ok compair to the previous one, its just that bar on the left :( I dont like it, does anyobdy know how to remove it?17:37
TicoActionParsnip: 2,5GHz intel core i517:37
theadmin!notunity | ash_17:37
ubottuash_: Ubuntu 11.10 and higher use GNOME 3 with the !unity shell by default.  To use GNOME Shell instead, install the "gnome-shell" package and investigate "gnome-tweak-tool".  For GNOME Fallback mode, which is similar to GNOME 2, install "gnome-panel". Both packages will place entries in the Sessions dropdown. Using Natty? See !classic17:37
ActionParsnipash_: install the gnome-panel package and log off, then select the new session17:38
theadminxangua: Thanks, that solved it :)17:38
ActionParsnipash_: or install a different desktop and sidestep gnome all together :)17:38
ActionParsnipTico: no, the GPU, not the CPU17:39
ActionParsnipTico: the video chip17:39
BluesKajlame and pulseaudio are 2 different apps with different uses. jake_ ...pulseaudio is a sound server , lame is a mp3 app17:40
ash_@ubottu  (Thanks you a lot my friend i will give  a try to this ) :)17:41
ActionParsnip!bot | ash_17:43
ubottuash_: Hi! I'm #ubuntu's favorite infobot, you can search my brain yourself at http://ubottu.com/factoids.cgi | Usage info: http://ubottu.com/devel/wiki/Plugins | Bot channels and general info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Bots17:43
ravenhi17:43
jake_haha misunderstanding i know that i was just stating fact BluesKay17:43
raveni still have some rights-problems with tightvncserver and virtual desktop environment - need help please17:44
TicoActionParsnip: Intel HD Graphics 4000 384 MB17:44
bhast2install takes forever when you pick install updates lol17:45
ActionParsnip!nomodeset | Tico17:45
ubottuTico: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter17:45
^GeCk0^is there any working version from spotify for ubuntu ?17:46
smthi, i changed hardware, and the new motherboard brought an intel hda chipset with it, i do have sound cause alsa seems to be working, but i cannot control it properly cause pulseaudio doesnt work anymore, any help on that?17:46
TicoActionParsnip: i use nointremap, it used to work before, now i got stuck at splash screen17:46
^GeCk0^smt,  try the 2.0 version of pulse audio17:47
^GeCk0^there is an ppa17:47
jake_whats the ppa? GeCkO17:47
smtthats the question17:48
smtubuntu audio dev team ppa?17:48
^GeCk0^smt, ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/pulse-testing17:49
thomasuwell I forgot my root pw any suggestions?17:49
kostkonsmt, try deleting the .pulse folder17:49
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greenitikonia, sry that i answer now, but how can i set the background of the grub from the violet-thingy which is default to black with splashimage?17:49
jribthomasu: there is no root password by default.  Do you mean you forgot your first user's password?17:49
smtkostkon: i already tried that17:49
thomasuyeah :P17:49
kostkonsmt, did you logout and login again after doing that?17:49
jrib!password | thomasu17:49
ubottuthomasu: Forgot your password? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword What's the root password? See !sudo. Don't see *** in password prompts? That's normal. Sudo doesn't ask for your password? It remembers you for several minutes. Please use strong passwords, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/StrongPasswords17:49
smtshure17:50
thedanglerhow should I go about troubleshooting ubuntu not able to receive and connections.  I can ping out, use the internet, but I can't seem to ping to the ubuntu box.17:50
kostkonsmt, k17:50
thedanglerreceive any*17:50
thomasu!password | thomasu17:50
ubottuthomasu, please see my private message17:50
kostkonsmt, did you try to setup your sound in the sound preferences?17:50
mutiosmt, did you do a full shutdown and restart?17:50
smti cant even open the sound preferences, it only tells "waiting for sound system"17:51
smtyes i did a full shutdown17:51
TicoActionParsnip: or is it same?17:51
kostkonsmt, does ps -A | grep pulseaudio output anything?17:52
smtnope17:52
kostkonhmm17:52
mutiosmt, I wonder what the chances are that pulseaudio doesn't support your new hardware?17:52
bhast2what is the best way to view my ntfs partition17:53
kostkonsmt, try starting it, give: pulseaudio -D17:53
mutiobhast2 // mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd? /?17:54
gzmaskis ubuntu 12.04 64bit compatible with sony vaio t series ?17:54
smtsmt@smt:~$ pulseaudio -D17:54
smtE: main.c: Start des Daemons fehlgeschlagen.17:54
smtsmt@smt:~$ pulseaudio17:54
smtN: alsa-util.c: Disabling timer-based scheduling because high-resolution timers are not available from the kernel.17:54
smtE: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-sink" (argument: "device=hw:0"): initialization failed.17:54
smtE: main.c: Module load failed.17:54
smtE: main.c: Konnte Daemon nicht initialisieren.17:54
FloodBot1smt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:54
kostkonhmm17:54
mutiosmt, looks like alsa doesn't support your hw either17:55
smtit does, i can hear something, and i can control it via alsamixer17:55
bhast2_got disconnected17:55
shwaiil_Q: Anyone here tested Sony Vegas  on a VM ? thanks17:55
smt(might be some fallback...)17:56
bhast2_what is the be way to see my windows HD17:56
mutiobhast2_ // mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd? /?17:56
Markus_on_UbuntuMy Mic doesn't work in pulseaudio, but I can get alsamixer to feed it beck to the speaker, can someone help me debug this?17:56
ActionParsnipHtbrdd: is it an internal partiion?17:56
bhast2_thanks17:57
Markus_on_UbuntuFrom what I read on the internet pulseaudio sits on top of alsa, but what exactly is the path for the microphone?17:58
kostkonsmt, does  fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp*  output anything?17:58
Markus_on_UbuntuWhat channels do I need to mute or unmute in alsamixer?17:58
smtkostkon: yes it does17:59
kostkonsmt, paste the output somewhere, e.g. paste.ubuntu.com17:59
smtonly snd, nothing dsp17:59
smtkostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195138/18:01
mutiosmt, there's probably alternatives to pulseaudio18:02
kostkonsmt, iinteresting. ok try this. close totem. give again the last cmd and make sure that it doesnt show totem again and then try to start pulseuadio again:  pulseaudio -D18:02
BluesKajMarkus_on_Ubuntu, dpends what channels/controls are not going to be used18:02
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smtkostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195140/18:03
kostkonsmt, does now  ps -A | grep pulseaudio  output something18:04
smtyep one line18:05
smt21230 ?        00:00:00 pulseaudio18:05
kostkonsmt, nice. dont open anything media app yet. now try to setup your sound again in your sound prefs18:05
kostkonsmt, i think you should be ok now18:05
kostkonany media app*18:05
ikoniaubuntucrazy: sorry, I was just dealing with something else, how are you progressing ?18:06
ChaoticanarchyXhi all anyone free to help someone out with a problem or two?18:06
smtkostkon, works great, but will it still work after a reboot?18:07
kostkonsmt, to test it, just logout and login again. good luck :P18:07
bhast2what is the best way to burn a avi file in ubuntu18:07
mbalmerprint it out and light the paper?18:08
EaglemanWhat is a nightly?18:08
bhast2wow ubuntu is smooth18:08
bhast2first time installing it without vm18:08
Troy^bhast2: of course. as long as hardware is good18:09
bhast2program to burn a movie??18:09
auronandace!burn | bhast218:10
ubottubhast2: CD/DVD burning software: k3b (KDE), brasero (GNOME), gnomebaker, xcdroast, wodim (command-line) | To burn ISO files, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto18:10
auronandacebhast2: i like xfburn18:10
baizonindeed xfburn18:10
bhast2thanks guys18:10
bhast2going to be hard to boot into windows lol18:10
bhast2any way to auto auth18:11
bhast2so I don't have to put in my password everytime I install something18:11
Troy^bhast2: there is a timer on sudo command18:11
bhast2how do I do that18:11
smtkostkon: it works, (tried a full reboot too) i dont have any idea what changed but thanks anyway18:11
kostkonsmt, np :)18:12
Markus_on_UbuntuBluesKaj, if I unmute the "Front Mic" in alsamixer I can hear myself on the speaker, but I don't get any access to my mic from any application.18:12
ChaoticanarchyXcan anyone help me with making my display stop going into standby after ten minutes?18:12
Troy^bhast2: no idea and i wouldn't change it, it makes your system secure. when you use the command line more you will find out sudo is the samething as that prompt for password. it basically allows you to make system changes18:12
bhast2ok18:12
bhast2thanks18:12
bhast2any one want to recommand programs for ubuntu18:13
ChaoticanarchyXOGM RIP18:13
ChaoticanarchyXgood rip program18:13
mutiobhast2 // prgrams to do what?18:13
EaglemanWhich version of ejabberd is in the repository?18:15
bhast2some programs that are a must have for ubuntu18:15
auronandacebhast2: only you can answer that question18:16
mutiobhast2 // there are a huge number of linux apps around, and most of them will run on ubuntu18:16
Troy^bhast2: http://omgubuntu.co.uk does reviews on some neat apps sometimes but really that is a broad question18:16
auronandacebhast2: it all depends on what you want to do18:16
BluesKajMarkus_on_Ubuntu, most applications for recording or hearing a mic thru them have settings in them that link to alsa , so look in the app you're using18:16
bhast2thanks Troy18:17
WeThePeopleis it possible to have a secure wifi connection at a motel18:17
Troy^bhast2: Smuxi is a very neat irc client if your looking for something neat18:17
BluesKajWeThePeople, doubtful18:18
bhast2ok cause I am using xchat18:18
bhast2I will look at it18:18
Markus_on_UbuntuI thought, all gnome apps would go through pulseaudio.18:18
mutioWeThePeople // the owners of the motel will be giggling at all your web browsing18:18
WeThePeoplenot really18:19
BluesKajthey do Markus_on_Ubuntu , but they source from alsa , except webaudio18:19
BluesKajMarkus_on_Ubuntu, you could try pavucontrol , for input and output settings  , it should work18:20
mutioWeThePeople // the point being that as the providers of the wifi, they can have as much access to every packet as they want to, which mught mean they'll be giggling like Beavis and Butthead18:21
WeThePeoplemutio, im talking about other guests18:22
EaglemanWhich version of ejabberd is in the repository?18:22
WeThePeoplesecure from other guests18:22
auronandace!info ejabberd | Eagleman18:23
ubottuEagleman: ejabberd (source: ejabberd): distributed, fault-tolerant Jabber/XMPP server written in Erlang. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.1.10-2ubuntu1 (precise), package size 1443 kB, installed size 3611 kB18:23
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TicoUbuntu 12.04 LTS fails to start LightDM Display manager and i gets stuck at ubuntu splash scren, someone can help me with it?18:24
Eaglemanauronandace aand what if i need 2.1.6?18:24
Chris123hey guys18:25
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auronandaceEagleman: are you running 12.0418:26
Eaglemanyesa18:26
sfearsubuntucrazy: what's up?18:26
auronandaceEagleman: why do you need that version?18:26
Eaglemanfor Acrhipel18:26
Chris123can somebody help me?18:27
auronandaceEagleman: whats that?18:27
rocky_hello folks18:27
EaglemanA KVM manager18:27
TicoUbuntu 12.04 LTS fails to start LightDM Display manager and i gets stuck at ubuntu splash screen https://www.dropbox.com/s/mn0k70gvtf72ch9/2012-09-09%2020.18.51.jpg18:27
pthChris123: What is your problem?18:27
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rocky_i have a question how to copy pwd to clipboard, i know this can be done thru mouse right click or using shift insert, i am looking for a commond to copy pwd to clipboard18:29
EaglemanSo auronandace how do i get 2.1.6?18:29
Scott___rocky_: CTRL+C ?18:30
rocky_Scott___, this is cancel command shortcut18:30
auronandaceEagleman: why won't 2.1.10 work?18:30
Chris123pth: I was trying to install Ubuntu but it didn?t work until I changed the "OS Installer" (or something like this) option in the BIOS to "Others" instead of "Windows". After Ubuntu was installed alongside Win7 I tried booting Win7 again but I got stuck at a black screen. Setting the Option back to "Windows" didn?t solve the problem so I formatted my hard drive. Is there another way to somehow install Ubuntu alongside Win7?18:30
Scott___rocky_, ctrl+shift+c then18:30
Eaglemano wait18:30
Eaglemani am sorry18:31
Eaglemani tought it was 2.1.618:31
Eaglemanso it should work18:31
dr_willis!info xclip18:31
ubottuxclip (source: xclip): command line interface to X selections. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.12-1 (precise), package size 19 kB, installed size 92 kB18:31
rocky_Scott___, this doesn't works18:31
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mutioChris123 // did you install to a separate harddrive or to the same one?18:32
dr_willistheres a few cli clipboard tools in the repos18:32
pthrocky_: How about xclip: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/xclip-linux-insert-files-command-output-intoclipboard/18:32
Chris123mutio it was on the same harddrive18:32
wilee-nileeChris123, This a msdos partitioning setup?18:32
mutioChris123 // then it's quite possible you broke win 7's boot sector18:33
Chris123wilee-nilee Can you explain to me what you mean by this?18:33
Chris123mutio what was my mistake?18:33
mutioChris123 // it's safer to install to a separate harddrive18:33
wilee-nileeChris123, Some HD's have a gpt setup or remnants of one can you rub sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the results.18:34
Chris123mutio I only got one but would installing it to another partition solve the problem?18:34
wilee-nileerun*18:34
Jordan_UChris123: mutio: It's perfectly safe to install both OSs to the same drive.18:34
Chris123wilee-nilee Im on windows atm.18:35
Jordan_UChris123: You've already "formatted" the drive, so you've lost both the original Windows install and the new Ubuntu install?18:35
Chris123Jordan_U Yes but I can reinstall them ofc18:35
googlefan12bsod is bad18:35
wilee-nileeChris123, Is there an unallocated space now for ubuntu, and do you know the number of partitions you have now, from being loked at from ubuntu?18:36
wilee-nileelooked*18:36
mutioChris123 // did you install ubuntu on the same partition as win 7?18:36
pthrocky_: pwd | xclip  - did it work?18:36
Jordan_UChris123: Do you know if your firmware is UEFI?18:36
wilee-nileethats what I wonder as well.18:36
googlefan12...18:37
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Chris123wilee-nilee Uh I used the "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows7" so I guess Ubuntu managed the partitions but there was no unallocated space before I did this18:37
googlefan12im waiting for the train...18:37
Chris123mutio yes it was the same partition18:37
rocky_pth, sorry this did not worked18:38
wilee-nileeChris123, Ah well your best help here is Jordan_U if they have the time to help you. ;)18:38
rocky_it is not copying to clipboard18:38
Chris123Jordan_U No i don?t know. Where can I display it?18:38
dr_willisrocky_:  the gnome clipbord is not the same as the x selection buffer. xclip may need some options, or you may need a tool like glipper to sync the 218:39
mutioChris123 // if you don't have a second harddrive, the next safest option is to install ubuntu on a separate partition18:39
Chris123mutio Alright. That?s probably what Im going to do next.18:39
Jordan_UChris123: It would be somewhere in your motherboard's documentation, and there's probably a way to tell if Windows was installed via UEFI from within Windows but I don't know it.18:40
mutioChris123 // after you partition the drive, you'd need to reinstall windows first before ubuntu18:40
pthrocky_: It is working for me. Which application do you want to paste into?18:40
rocky_i am just right clicking on the console itself and paste18:41
Jordan_UChris123: I would recommend simply installing Ubuntu again, using the guided partitioning rather than setting anything up manually, and come back here if you have problems booting Windows again and we'll get you fixed up.18:41
rocky_pth,  i am just right clicking on the console itself and paste18:41
rocky_pth, or even in the browser also18:41
exodusChris123, what seems to be the problem?18:42
Chris123Jordan_U I did use the guided partitioning thats why Im confused what couldve gone wrong.18:42
pthrocky: If I write "pwd | xclip" and afterwards press the middle button inside the window, the present directory path is pasted into the window.18:42
Chris123mutio Yes I did install windows already.18:42
pthrocky_: That's the middle mouse button.18:42
rocky_pth, i am using laptop mousepad18:42
Jordan_UChris123: It's hard to tell without being able to look at how things ended up after the install. If the same thing happens again, it should be pretty easy for me to figure out why and how to fix it.18:43
pthrocky_: Me too.18:43
Chris123exodus I installed Ubuntu alongside Win7, before I could do this I set "OS Installer" option in the BIOS from "Windows" to "Others" (dont know if this is important), then installed ubuntu, I could boot ubuntu but not Win7 after the instalation was completed18:43
pthrocky_: Do you have a middel button18:43
exodusChris-D, was Windows an option in the boot menu?18:43
Trijitany1 familiar with cisco vpn client on ubunrtu?18:44
googlefan12This is the first time I heard Pizza Hut!!! I had no idea there was a Pizza Hut version. Wow... ya learn something new everyday!!!18:44
rocky_pth, i think it can click with both mouse buttons then it works middle18:44
Chris123Jordan_U Alright thanks for helping, I will install Ubuntu now using the guided partitioning again and come back here if the problem persists.18:44
Chris123exodus Yes I could chose windows but instead of booting I got stuck at a black screen18:44
Chris123exodus Ubuntu booted without a problem though18:45
Jordan_UChris123: You're welcome.18:45
exodusChris-D, ok, is your computer a laptop?18:45
pthrocky_: Try "pwd | xclip <return>" and then "xclip -o <return>" What does it produce?18:45
Chris123exodus no18:45
exodusChris123, ok, are you familiar with partitions and filesystem terminology?18:45
rocky_pth, yes it's middle directory18:46
rocky_pth, sorry it s pwd18:46
Chris123exodus Not really, I know what a partition is and I know that there are filesystems but thats all18:46
bjvUsing 12.04 just now, my usb input stopped responding again. When i click on unity launch, it just hovers. i cannot click to activate anything, BUT if i close the laptop lid and open, the lockscreen *does* respond to clicks.. when im back to desktop it no longer works. How can i troubleshoot this?18:46
pthrocky_: Does it work for you? I didnt understand your last two posts.18:46
bjvvery reproducible, well, for now it is. not clear what caused it18:46
n1ckn4me09876543I have 2 O.S. installed,  I recently installed another one so now there are 3 O.S installed on my hdd,  when I use the UPDATE-GRUB command, it only detects 2 O.S and not the recent one, help!18:46
exodusChris123, ok, before you go ahead and reinstall Ubuntu, you can try opening a terminal window in Ubuntu and running a command18:46
rocky_pth, yes it works thank you18:46
pthrocky_: Great. Have a good evening!18:47
exodusChris123, try "sudo update-grub"18:47
TicoHi, starting LightDM Display Manager fails, i found a solution to reinstall lightdm via apt-get but there's no connection to use apt-get?18:47
rocky_pth, you too18:47
exodusChris123, without the quotes of course.18:47
Jordan_Un1ckn4me09876543: What specifically are the other OSs? Can you pastebin the output of "sudo os-prober"?18:47
bjvIt's clearly not a problem with my input device or drivers, because the loghtscreen works. if i sudo service lightdm restart everything will be fine, (this has happened before)   How can I track down what the problem is?18:47
auronandacen1ckn4me09876543: what OS's18:47
bjv*lock18:47
Chris123exodus I already formatted my hard drive and installed Windows again18:47
Chris123exodus You could say I panicked :/18:48
exodusChris123, haha ok18:48
googlefan12 Sigourney didn't say "Screw that!" on set.18:48
exodusChris-D, Well, doing manual partitioning is something to be done carefully, specially if you have important information18:48
exodusChris-D, mistype, sry.18:48
googlefan12...18:49
googlefan12uhh18:49
exodusChris123, that was for you. So, pretty much, Windows needs a partition of its own.18:49
Chris123exodus I did not do it manually, I used the option which the installer gave me18:49
exodusChris123, Windows 7 actually uses 2 partitions18:49
googlefan12POP!!!!18:49
Chris123exodus Yes I know, thats why I used "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7"18:49
Chris123exodus any chances the installer confused something?18:49
googlefan12MY WINDOWS XP IS DOWNSTAIRS18:50
exodusChris123, ok, it shouldn't have. Try installing Ubuntu now.18:50
exodusChris123, it should detect Windows in the proper partition and install.18:50
Chris123exodus Alright, thank you for your help, hope to see you in some minutes18:50
exodusChris123, some computers have weird Windows partitions, sometimes it can get messy.18:50
ozettehow fix audio problems in flash18:51
exodusChris123, what's important is to note how many partitions Windows is using.18:51
Foxhound-ZCan anyone help me configure my wireless USB card?18:51
pthozette: Can you be specific?18:51
Foxhound-ZIt's a Tenda w311m ( using Ralink 5370 via lsusb)18:51
Chris123exodus Windows is on C:, I got a partition for my data D: and "System Reserved K:"18:51
Chris123exodus I guess K is the second windows partition you are talking about18:52
Foxhound-ZI installed the drivers following this post:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=180017818:52
Ticoi use ubuntu 12.04 and it fails starting lightdm display manager pls help18:52
exodusChris123, I see, ok, let me explain a bit18:52
BahamanHi, does anyone hi im getting a funny message about someone requesting a CTCP VERSION18:52
Bahamanwhat is that about? :o18:52
Foxhound-ZI configured the wireless supplicant.conf file and attempted to connect18:52
Foxhound-Zbut it's not working18:52
n1ckn4me09876543Jordan_U:  auronandace:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195206/    sda1- Ubuntu 12.04   sda2-Win7  sda3-Win8      win7 is the newly installed one that wont get detected18:52
exodusChris123, hard-drives can only have 4 main partitions. They can either be primary, or extended.18:52
exodusChris123, extended partitions can contain more partitions18:52
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ozettepth, I'm experiencing sound problems in Chrome and Firefox when I'm at youtube or justintv18:53
ozetteSound either plays real slow, or real quick18:53
fluziosBahaman: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#ctcpversion18:53
n1ckn4me09876543Jordan_U:  auronandace:    win8 used to be sda2  but when i installed win7  between  ubuntu and win8,  win7 became sda2 and win8 became sda3,  so weird lol18:53
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exodusChris123, Windows loves taking up primary partitions. So I'm going to guess you have 3 primary partitions, leaving just 1 for Ubuntu which should use an extended partition for all its things. Just go ahead and install Ubuntu with the guided partitioning and come back.18:53
ozettelike my speakers are in water18:53
Chris123exodus Alright I will do this, thanks once again!18:54
exodusChris123, when addressing your issues it's important to talk about your partitions, that will help clarify your problem.18:54
pthozette: I have experienced out of sync sound on youtube but not the things you mention, sorry, cant help.18:54
Jordan_Un1ckn4me09876543: Have you tried booting from the Windows 8 entry?18:54
deadmundfoxbuntu: Are you sure about that chipset?  linuxwireless.org does not list it as supported.18:54
ozettepth, weird .. I can't even type in the search bar at youtube18:54
Foxhoundzdeadmund, Ralink RT5370?18:54
FoxhoundzI'm 99% sure.18:55
ozettepth, are you using 12.04?18:55
deadmundFoxhoundz: I thought of that.  http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices/USB18:55
pthozette: Yes18:55
n1ckn4me09876543Jordan_U not yet, brb18:55
ozettepth, This problem is so annoying, Only way to resolve is to restart my system18:55
Foxhoundzdeadmund, well, Ralink supplies its own set of Linux drivers, which I did install18:55
Foxhoundzdeadmund, and iwconfig ra0 scanning actually works18:56
Foxhoundzand shows my access point18:56
deadmundFoxhoundz: Then it's working!18:56
deadmundmost likely18:56
pthozette: Try chrome://plugins/ in chrome and tell me the version of the flash plugin.18:56
FoxhoundzBUT...18:56
FoxhoundzIt's not connecting18:56
deadmundFoxhoundz: What is the issue?18:56
Foxhoundzfor the sake of argument, I disabled all encryption18:56
deadmundFoxhoundz: Have you tried without any encryption?18:56
Foxhoundzand left my access point open18:56
Foxhoundzyeap18:56
FloodBot1Foxhoundz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.18:56
sliddjurCan someone help me out, i did chmod 760 to a folder. the user is within the correct group, but i still cant enter it. do i need 770?18:57
deadmundFoxhoundz: What do you see in dmesg about things?  You can pastebin if you want.  I'll be right back in about 5 - 10 minutes (bathroom)18:57
bhast2i figured it out update the system when I picked update when I installed but I guess not18:57
ozetteFlash (2 files) - Version: 11.3.31.232,  Shockwave Flash 11.3 r3118:57
ozettepth, Version: 11.3.31.232,  Shockwave Flash 11.3 r3118:57
david__hello all. If I install a program that uses a tarball extension, how can I uninstall it ?18:58
pthozette: Same here. Strange.18:58
ozettepth, I guess it's the latest18:58
funkyblooking for help with a casper question.  Should I just throw it in the channel?18:58
ozettepth, Hmm ok, I was wondering if I was the only one experiencing this18:58
greenithi, i want to report a bug with the touchpad, but i don't know which package-name i shall provide when i type "ubuntu-bug"18:58
bekksdavid__: a tarball is just an archive. You extract it, do something, and your program is installed. It depends on that "do something" what you have to do to uninstall it.18:59
ikoniadavid__: it really depends what is contained within the tarball18:59
pthozette: Maybe an idea would be to remove the plugin and let chrome install it again next time a flash is hit on a page.18:59
ozettepth, good idea i'll try that19:00
Foxhoundzdeadmund, hmm19:01
Foxhoundzdeadmund, ok, encryptionless connections seem to work19:01
Foxhoundzso  I guess it's an error on my part on how I configured etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.confg19:01
Foxhoundzconf*19:01
pthdavid__: As far as I know you only can if the makefile has an uninstall target.19:02
FoxhoundzBut there's a more pressing question. Right now I was able to configure my wireless device and connect it to my access point via command line19:02
FoxhoundzBut I want to use the Network connections GUI front end19:02
FoxhoundzHowever, it doesn't seem to detect my card or any  access points19:02
greenithow can i report a touchpad-bug in ubuntu?19:03
IdleOnegreenit: you can report against xserver-xorg-input-multitouch that should get the bug to the right people but if it isn't they will reassign it to the correct package19:03
greenitIdleOne, thx :)19:03
IdleOnesure19:03
BahamanIs anyone using VirtualBox here? Im trying to transfer an ISO file (I installed the extension pack) but it somehow wont prompt with anything only on the "host"..19:03
BahamanIm using ubuntu and running Win7 in the VM19:04
21WAAFEW9If I kill networkManager, will I loose internet? The little f***er is using 100% of one core doing nothing19:05
dr_willisBahaman:  you could treat the 2 os's as 2 real machines. and use ssh/scp/ftp or samba to transfer files19:05
deadmundFoxhoundz: probably!  Can you pastebin that file?19:05
ikonia21WAAFEW9: there is no need for that language please.19:05
ikonia21WAAFEW9: if you have to star out a word - don't use it19:05
bekksBahaman: What do you mean by "try to transfer"? And why do you refer to the extension pack?19:06
21WAAFEW9ikonia: okay, but what is the answer to my question+19:06
deadmundFoxhoundz: The device does not show up in the gui?  Show me your /etc/network/interfaces file19:06
gordonjcpikonia: tbh I'm more offended by it when it's starred out...19:06
ikonia21WAAFEW9: I didn't read your question as I lost interests as soon as I saw your use of language19:06
ikoniagordonjcp: I can see that point19:06
21WAAFEW9ikonia: ...19:06
ikonia21WAAFEW9: ..... means nothing, it's just dots19:06
21WAAFEW9Can I kill NetworkManager without loosing network?19:06
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IdleOne21WAAFEW9: I'm not 100% sure but I think you will lose internet connection if you kill network manager19:07
gordonjcpikonia:  I find euphemism peculiarly offensive, I don't know why19:07
gordonjcp21WAAFEW9: if you do lose network, just re-run nm-applet19:07
mutio21WAAFEW9 // kill it and find out. you can always reboot if you lose all net19:07
ikonia21WAAFEW9: depends, mostly if you kill it and re-spawn it it will be fine19:07
mpmaSUp19:07
ikoniayou don't need to reboot19:07
21WAAFEW9mutio: I dont want to disconnect from irc19:07
Bahamanbekks: I have VB running and booted Win7. When I insert my USB stick into my computer it only prompts in Ubuntu and not in the VM (win7).19:07
ikonia21WAAFEW9: are you using dhcp ?19:07
21WAAFEW9yes19:08
dr_willisBahaman:  you need to configure vbox to access the 'real' usb stick19:08
BahamanOh19:08
ikonia21WAAFEW9: you should be able to kill it and respawn it before it re-checks for a lease.19:08
BahamanI'll look into that then19:08
bekksBahaman: Then you have to pass it through to your guest instead using it on the host - as described in the documentation of virtualbox (pretty good documentation, I have to admit)19:08
Bahamanbekks: I'll look into it , im fairly new but thanks:)!19:09
Foxhoundzdeadmund, it's just two lines : 1) auto lo 2) iface lo inet loopback19:09
21WAAFEW9ikonia: I managed to start my cpufan, maybe that will cool it down19:09
FoxhoundzThat's all that's written on that file19:09
ikonia21WAAFEW9: cpu temperature doesn't make it use more/less cpu19:09
deadmundFoxhoundz: really?  sudo service network restart19:10
ikonia21WAAFEW9: if network manager is using %100 cpu, cooling it won't make it use less19:10
21WAAFEW9ikonia: Since when? Every decent intel chip throttles itself if it is too warm19:10
deadmundFoxhoundz: Usually the devices do not show up in the gui because they're defined in /etc/network/interfaces.  What is hooking in your wpa_supplicant.conf ?19:10
deadmundFoxhoundz: sudo service networking restart **19:10
ikonia21WAAFEW9: limiting it's processor scalability is not % utilization19:10
Foxhoundzokay one moment19:10
mutiofor some cpu settings, the cpu will try to turn it's speed down the hotter it gets19:10
21WAAFEW9ikonia: cpu MHz         : 800.00019:10
gordonjcpikonia: it will if you cool it enough ;-)19:10
21WAAFEW9ikonia: On an 1.8ghz core19:11
gordonjcpikonia: let me just get my liquid helium and I'll show you a thing19:11
ikonia21WAAFEW9: if it's 1mhz or 1000000mhz, network manager shouldn't be using %10019:11
21WAAFEW9ikonia: that is true19:12
compdocgordonjcp is showing off his liquid helium again19:12
mutio21WAAFEW9 // what does "top" show for system load?19:12
maladorecan someone help with an irc server setup?19:14
21WAAFEW9mutio: 2.89 2.18 3.1419:14
mutio21WAAFEW9 // that is very high for any time past boot time19:14
Foxhoundzdeadmund, network: unrecognized service19:15
FoxhoundzI just rebooted my PC19:15
Foxhoundzso my wifi was disabled again19:15
deadmundFoxhoundz: sorry: sudo service networking restart   but I just remembered that they disabled the 'restart' option.  So yeah, you have reboot19:15
deadmundFoxhoundz: what disabled your wifi?  I don't understand?19:16
mutio21WAAFEW9 // it could easily have to do with your cpu turning it's speed down to 800mhz. do you have any settings in your bios for "cool and quiet"?19:16
Foxhoundzdeadmund, it wasn't disabled, but it didn't save the wireless settings19:16
FoxhoundzI rebooted my PC after downloading some video drivers19:16
deadmundFoxhoundz: so on reboot the wireless is not working?  Is that what you're saying?19:17
Foxhoundzdeadmund, that's correct19:17
deadmundFoxhoundz: Do you know how to 'reactive' it once you're rebooted?19:18
FoxhoundzI have to go back to the command line and bring the interface up, and configure the ssid settings iwconfig19:18
Foxhoundzeach time19:18
Foxhoundzbut it now has a network connecTIon19:18
deadmundFoxhoundz: in your /etc/network/interfaces file add a line for you wlan0 device that is identical to your eth019:19
deadmundFoxhoundz: do NOT have a "auto wlan0" line19:19
Foxhoundzdeadmund, ...what eth0? There is no information for eth0 in the interfaces file19:20
Foxhoundzso what should I be adding on there?19:20
deadmundFoxhoundz: pastebin your interfaces file please:  paste.ubuntu.com19:20
deadmundFoxhoundz: I'll make the change and show you the result.  Trying to explain it is too difficult19:21
Foxhoundzdeadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195274/19:21
FoxhoundzThat's all thats in there19:21
klotzekHello.19:21
deadmundFoxhoundz: Make it like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195280/19:24
deadmundFoxhoundz: then reboot19:24
andyHi guys.19:24
andyI'm having a bit of an issue.19:24
MerisIs it possible to logon into 2 X-Window sessions, using 2 users on the same computer. Both sessions having a full desktop experience?19:25
andyI'm using Pinguy OS 12, and I can't figure out how to change the screen resolution.19:25
yuri_hi. How do I make a hostAP in ubuntu's NetworkManager? The only option I see currently is AdHoc mode.19:25
Merisandy, sorry, you'll have to goto to the Pinguy support channel instead.19:25
auronandaceandy: not supported here19:25
andyk19:25
andyI understand.  I was in their channel and got no response.19:26
andythat's why i came here, knowing it's ubuntu based.19:26
dr_willisMeris:  check out 'multiseat' features of x and lightdm. its possible. theres also some hardware that makes it easier ive read reviews of.19:26
DWSRIs there a guide or going from Ubuntu desktop to Ubuntu server?19:26
klotzekI've got ubuntu 12.10 x64 and im wondering what part of the system is compiled on x64 and another one is emulated on libs32. Can someone give me a clue ?19:26
auronandaceandy: still not supported here19:27
dr_willisDWSR:  just install the services you want...19:27
andyI understand, I was just explaining my rationale.19:27
DWSRdr_willis: I want to rip out X.19:27
Merisdr_willis, I'm planning a "hotseat" config instead19:27
andyas to why I came here.19:27
DWSRAnd the associated packages with ubuntu-desktop, like libreoffice.19:27
dr_willisDWSR:  fire up package manager and do it then19:27
DWSRdr_willis: How can I remove everything referenced by ubuntu-desktop and install everything referenced by ubuntu-server?19:28
dr_willisDWSR:  or just use the text mode to boot to the console19:28
Foxhoundzdeadmund, that took a while to reboot19:28
DWSRWithout horribly horribly breaking things in my existing install?19:28
Foxhoundzdeadmund, now what?19:28
gordonjcpDWSR: why not just nuke and reinstall?19:28
deadmundFoxhoundz: The gui should see your wifi card.  Does it?19:28
deadmundFoxhoundz: Also, remove auto wlan0  (I believe) to make the boot faster19:28
dr_willisi dont see the point in removeing the stuff really.19:28
DWSRgordonjcp: Lots of work, mostly. apt doing all the heavy lifting for me means I don't care.19:29
Foxhoundzdeadmund, it did not :(19:29
DWSRdr_willis: Because it's a very low-power server?19:29
deadmundFoxhoundz: mmmm, what gui client are you using?19:29
dr_willisDWSR:  if x is not running.. its not using resources19:29
DWSRdr_willis: No, but other stuff related to being a desktop is. bluetoothd, etc.19:29
dr_willisnot with text mode i belive..19:30
maladoreany one can help setting up and irc server?19:30
Merisandy, the different distributions have the most differences in the way their control panels are set up, even Linux Mint, a closer cousin than Pinguy OS has this organised differently. You see why we can't help you with your question? Maybe Freenode has a separate #pinguy support channel?19:30
DWSRdr_willis: It definitely is.19:30
krababbelDWSR: just reinstall19:30
DWSRkrababbel: There has to be a guide for this. I'm pretty sure I've actually seen one somewhere on the Ubuntu site.19:30
OerHeks!ipv6 | deadmund, Foxhoundz i decreased boottime with 9 sec. by disable IPv619:30
ubottudeadmund, Foxhoundz i decreased boottime with 9 sec. by disable IPv6: For an introduction to IPv6 and information on tunneling IPv6 through IPv4 connections, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPv6 | To disable IPv6 see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WebBrowsingSlowIPv6IPv419:30
deadmundOerHeks: great19:31
krababbelDWSR: there is no easy way, you go through the packages and see what happens if you remove19:31
MerisOerheks, that's impressive, but in the end it will be the other way around ;-)19:31
calicoDoes anyone one if the broadcom wireless have been solved already in the current Ubuntu version? I tried hard to migrate to Ubuntu some months ago but the wireless problems were a deal breaker19:31
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deadmundcalico: I am very good with those cards.  Which do you have?  I can tell you if I can get it working and then show you how.19:31
DWSRcalico: It works fine on my laptop which has a Broadcom chip. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.19:31
dr_williscalico:  broadcom makes a lot of different wireless chipsets19:31
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bekkscalico: Please beb more specific. I am using Ubuntu with broadcom chipsets for years now.19:31
OerHeks!bcm19:31
ubottuHelp with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx19:31
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Meriscalico, the Wireless support differs by kernel version, not really across distro's...Check out the linux hardware compat. DB and lookup your model of Wifi chipset19:32
calicoWell I don't really know, I'm just an average user... But my internet connection was REALLY unstable, constantly disconnecting, reconnectin, slow, etc19:32
DWSRkrababbel: Will -desktop conflict with -server if I install both simultaneously?19:32
HardKoreMofohmm... how come /list doesn't work?19:33
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Meris!hardware | calico19:33
ubottucalico: For lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection19:33
Cheesewheelanyone here using quassel19:33
DWSRCheesewheel: Yes.19:33
calicotnx19:33
Jellyg00seHi all, more of a grep terminal question, I'm trying to remove all files recursively within directories where they have been created with a (1) in the name i.e. song(1).mp3, I tried ls -R * | grep -r "(1)" * which lists a lot of files but ALL of them, and then I also wish to pipe an rm to it, any help would be appreciated, thankyou :)19:33
CheesewheelDWSR can you tell me if there's a way to keep my window layout when I close19:33
DWSRkrababbel: And can I remove everything referenced by ubuntu-desktop that isn't required by anything else?19:33
CheesewheelIt keeps resetting every time19:33
tkingplease i am using ubuntu as my host and i have installed backtrack as guest using virtual box but it doesn't allow me to use USB after install Guest Addition Pack19:33
DWSRCheesewheel: Mine seems to do that just fine.19:33
DWSRCheesewheel: What version are you using?19:33
d00durk00lHey can someone help me please19:33
CheesewheelDWSR: 0.9819:34
Cheesewheel0.8*19:34
DWSRI'm on 0.7319:34
DWSRSeems to work OK.19:34
d00durk00lhow do you get a list of the channels on here?19:34
MerisJellyg00se, try the #bash channel and read up on tldp.org19:34
EaglemanHow do i install libvirt on ubuntu 12.04?19:34
Edlerhey guys19:34
d00durk00lwhen I use the list command it doesn't work19:34
Edleri'm on ubuntu server 10.0419:34
Edleri added a ppa19:34
Eaglemana decent version of libvirt (0.8.7+) or trunk version.19:34
Edlerbut now i want to remove it19:34
Edlerhow do i do that ?19:34
DWSRd00durk00l: /list works fine here. Check your status window.19:35
SamLAfternoon all19:35
xangua!ppa-purge | Edler19:35
ubottuEdler: To disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html19:35
d00durk00lI am using smuxi19:35
Jellyg00seMeris, thank you19:35
Edlerppa purge isn't available on 10.0419:35
krababbelDWSR: it will be complicated, but aptitude will try to solve dependencies for you, there are too many packages involved.19:35
d00durk00lSorry been a LONG time since I used irc trying to remember all the commands19:35
deadmundcalico: Do you have Ubuntu installed right now?  I can tell you the terminal command to use to determine your wireless card's chipset.  Then we can determine if it is current supported in Ubuntu.19:35
DWSRd00durk00l: I'm not familiar with your particular client. Read the documentation. The command works properly.19:35
gordonjcpEagleman: google, "install libvirt on ubuntu", first hit ;-)19:35
SamLI'm having some trouble installing 12.0.4 on a macbook and I'm looking for some assistance if anybody has a moment19:35
gordonjcp!ask | SamL19:36
ubottuSamL: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience19:36
MerisMeris, you're welcome, just be sure to research on tldp.org first (Advanced Bash Scripting Guide)19:36
DWSRkrababbel: Should I use aptitude over just apt? I'm assuming aptitude does more advanced dependency resolution?19:36
SamLlol what?19:36
MerisJellyg00se, , you're welcome, just be sure to research on tldp.org first (Advanced Bash Scripting Guide)19:36
xangua!aptitude | DWSR19:36
ubottuDWSR: aptitude is another terminal-based front-end to APT. You may encounter problems on multiarch installs (11.10 and higher) as aptitude cannot currently handle the same package with different architectures being installed at the same time. See http://pad.lv/831768 for more information.19:36
krababbelDWSR: so try to remove the ubuntu desktop metapackage and install the ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard packages, thoese are cli only19:36
DWSRSamL: Ask your question. Don't ask about getting help.19:36
SamLI just did19:36
tkingplease i am using ubuntu as my host and i have installed backtrack as guest using virtual box but it doesn't allow me to use USB after install Guest Addition Pack19:36
bekksJellyg00se: UNTESTED: find . -type f -iname "*(1)*.*" -exec echo "Please delete:" {} \;19:36
Noobuntuanyone here having trouble with system crashes lately?19:37
krababbelDWSR: aptitude is more user friendly, has a bug regarding ia32-libs though, if you are on 64bit.19:37
SamLI've been following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Other_Partitioning_Options_Multi-booting19:37
gordonjcpSamL: no, you said you're having some trouble19:37
bekksNoobuntu: Why?19:37
Noobuntunautilus crashed like 3 times yesterday19:37
Meristking, try #virtualbox and #backtrack instead.19:37
gordonjcpSamL: don't expect anyone to sit and tease it out of you line by line19:37
Noobuntuand today it was some Xorg complaint19:37
bekksNoobuntu: Thats an application crash, not a system crash :)19:37
DWSRSamL: No, you didn't. You just said "It don't work". Try asking something like "I'm having problems installing Ubuntu 12.04 on my Macbook. I get error X when I try. Does anyone know how to fix it?"19:37
SamLok19:37
d00durk00lDWSR: There is a resume command for DCC file transfer correct?19:38
Noobuntuyeah - sorry  - yesterday's was an appicaton crash19:38
Noobuntutoday my system crashed19:38
Noobuntu:)19:38
DWSRd00durk00l: Again, no idea. I can tell you that DCC is most likely restricted on Freenode.19:38
SamLI've installed ubuntu on the macbook, however when I go to boot, it returns operating system not found or the ? File folder19:38
gordonjcpSamL: "I'm installing Ubuntu on my macbook and I haven't a clue where to start" would be acceptable, too19:38
DWSRd00durk00l: Also, check your client's documentations.19:38
pizzadudeI like your name Noobuntu19:38
gordonjcpSamL: aha, you want to look up refit19:38
Noobuntujust trying to be honest :)19:38
Troy^DCC file transfer is terrible19:38
karstengreetings! im usting an hp probook 4535s and the battery performance is bad on ubuntu. 1 hour max. on windows its 6 hours. would it have an effect installing the proper driver?19:38
yellowhatcan someone give me a hint what is the slow part i need to tweak : http://i.imgur.com/e0FmM.png19:38
d00durk00lwhat can I use to send a large file to my friend?19:39
d00durk00lany suggestions19:39
DWSRkarsten: Does your laptop have a switchable graphics card in it?19:39
SamLalrighty, i was reading a bit about that gordonjcp, I don't have osx cd (at home) or osx installed anymore (yes it was a stupid move)19:39
yellowhati have posted a boot chart but i cannot read it19:39
Troy^d00durk00l: ftp or sftp19:39
gordonjcpSamL: you can do without it, but to be honest it's easier to install refit, then get that to chainload grub19:39
bekksd00durk00l: scp, ftp, or some file hoster.19:39
SamLAlso, it seemed like you only needed refit if you are multi-booting19:39
Merisd00durk00l, how big?19:39
DWSRd00durk00l: http://mediafire.com, ftp, scp,19:39
pizzaduded00durk00l how about dropbox19:39
karstenDWSR, yes, it has19:39
Noobuntuanyone had any system crashes related to Xorg lately?19:39
gordonjcpSamL: yeah, it *does* help if you're dual-booting with OSX19:39
ikoniaNoobuntu: what does it matter what others have - ask your problem/question19:39
bekksNoobuntu: Please investigate the logs to tell us why your X crashed. :)19:39
d00durk00ldrop box bandwidth slow and only allows 2gb on free account19:39
SamLif that is no longer an opto19:39
DWSRkarsten: That's why. Ubuntu by default uses the discrete GPU and doesn't normally handle switching without some additional installation.19:39
bekksNoobuntu: You will find them in /var/log/Xorg.*.log19:40
SamL*option, im not entirely fucked though gordonjcp?19:40
d00durk00lftp is a good idea....19:40
ikoniaSamL: dump the language pleas.e19:40
ikoniaplease19:40
Noobuntuthanks - I will check it right away19:40
d00durk00lDon't know why I didn't think of that19:40
DWSRkarsten: My laptop has about 2h of battery life on Ubuntu, but 7h on Windows because of that reason. The discrete GPU sucks a lot of power.19:40
gordonjcpd00durk00l: ftp is never a good idea19:40
DWSR^^19:40
Troy^lol gordonjcp19:40
karstenokay.. so installing the amd driver would solve the problem? or disabling it in uefi? DWSR19:40
d00durk00lkk gordon suggestions?19:40
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SamLthanks gordonjcp, ill take a look into it then19:40
bekksTroy^: Thats no joke. Thats true.19:40
Troy^well deep down it is not but really it's fine19:41
DWSRkarsten: Depending on your card, you can try installing fglrx (AMD's proprietary driver) and Catalyst Control Center and that MIGHT work.19:41
Cheesewheelwhat's wrong with FTP?19:41
DWSRkarsten: Or you can try vga_switcheroo. Which may also work.19:41
bekksCheesewheel: Everything. :) It is insecure.19:41
DWSRCheesewheel: Unencrypted.19:41
SamLscp > ftp ;)19:41
HeadlessZombiecleartext19:41
gordonjcpCheesewheel: lots of stuff19:41
gordonjcpCheesewheel: the passwords aren't encrypted19:41
d00durk00lthen setup a ssh tunnel and do a ftp through that19:41
karstenokay DSWR, thank you a lot. i will try both!19:42
bekksgordonjcp: Nothing is encrypted.19:42
Troy^http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie19:42
DWSRkarsten: The "additional drivers" section in Ubuntu's System Settings will allow you to install fglrx19:42
MerisCheesewheel, indeed. FTP over WAN belongs right niext to Telnet servers in the museum19:42
gordonjcpCheesewheel: it requires both the server *and* the client to allow arbitrary users to write to anywhere in the filesystem19:42
ghost_Hallo19:42
bekks!de | ghost_19:42
DWSRgordonjcp: chroot =\ That's not strictly speaking true.19:42
ubottughost_: In den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!19:42
gordonjcpDWSR: do you chroot your FTP client?19:42
Noobuntuno timestamp in the Xorg logs?? :)19:42
DWSRYes. You think that my / is 777?19:42
jagginessgordonboy i remember that name lol19:42
bekksNoobuntu: But a timestamp of the file :)19:42
ghost_qualcuno  scrive italiano???19:42
Chris123exodus Jordan_U / hey guys, Im back and my problem persists19:43
bekks!it | ghost_19:43
ubottughost_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)19:43
bhast2ok I can't get my sec montior to work19:43
gordonjcpCheesewheel: if I construct a suitably evil ftp *server*, I can use it to gain access to your machine by getting your client to download a file19:43
d00durk00lOkay so does someone have a solution other than FTP then?19:43
subz3r0have some trouble with the gnome3 fallback modus... The Icon of Truecrypt should appear in the panel, but I moved it somehow and cant get it back in the panel. Also ALT + Right mouse wont work. I just can move it on the desktop then, but not to the panel. any suggestions?19:43
bhast2it worked on the live disc but not after I installed19:43
jagginessbhast2, nvidia?19:43
gordonjcpjagginess: do not confuse me with gordboy19:43
bekksd00durk00l: sftp or scp. It was already meantioned.19:43
bhast2yes19:43
d00durk00lI will be transfering the file wan side so I would prefer a more secure method with less complications19:43
ghost_grazie ubottu19:43
jagginessgordonjcp, oops you're not him hahah19:43
DWSRd00durk00l: SCP or SFTP.19:43
DidjiHi.  I'm trying to mount a shared folder inside windows on my Ubuntu machine as a directory.  Unfortunately I can't get write access from Ubuntu.  Any ideas?19:44
jagginessbhast2, check out the twinview option19:44
d00durk00lkk thx guys19:44
Troy^d00durk00l: scp is easy you just need to setup an openssh server19:44
calicodeadmund, no, I am currently running win7 but I'm xubuntu virtualbox. It was the same for me - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823812 Do you have any idea if anythings has changed since then19:44
DWSRDidji: Where are you trying to mount it to?19:44
jagginessbhast2, you can run nvidia-settings from X and it can also make a sample xorg.conf file for you19:44
DidjiDWSR: /srv/webfolder19:44
DWSRDidji: You don't have write access there as your user, by default.19:44
jagginessbhast2, the nvidia-settings gui app can toggle the twinview option for you19:44
DWSRDidji: Which is why you can't mount it there. Try running the mount command as sudo19:44
exodusChris123, run: "sudo update-grub" in a terminal, paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/  and pass the link19:44
DidjiDWSR: I'm logged in as an admin.19:44
bhast2ummm19:44
bhast2I am new to this19:44
bhast2what is twinview19:45
Meris!enter | bhast219:45
ubottubhast2: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!19:45
TheJumperif I switch to a tty above the login field there is the line with the ubuntu release, hostname and tty name. how do I chnage this line?19:45
DidjiDWSR: I am mounting as sudo.  The mounting is working, I have read access, just not write access.19:45
jagginessbhast2, also, there's a cool app called 'disper' , after you're using twinview, you can use disper to toggle 1 screen or 2 screens to be on19:45
Meris!nvidia | bhast219:45
ubottubhast2: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto19:45
pizzaduded00durk00l upload the file to bittorrent and have your friend dl it19:45
gordonjcpTheJumper: change the version of Ubuntu you're running?19:45
d00durk00lwhat about ftps?19:45
d00durk00lthat uses ssl correct?19:45
yellowhatsolved my problem with slow bootup by finding this answer:19:45
TheJumpergordonjcp, i want a custom text ^^19:45
yellowhathttp://superuser.com/questions/286571/ubuntu-slow-startup-time-modprobe19:45
Merisd00durk00l, true19:45
Noobuntuso I have got 2 files Xorg.log and Xorg.log.old here19:46
subz3r0well, you can use SSL with FTP, too!19:46
Chris123exodus I ran into another problem, I tried installing ndiswrapper in order to use wlan but I cant install it because the Install button is greyed out19:46
Noobuntudoes it create a new log file when Xorg crashes?19:46
yellowhatapparently i solved it myself 1 year before19:46
subz3r0install a glftpd and be fine19:46
SamLgordonjcp, am i able to install refit from ubuntu live boot?19:46
Jordan_UChris123: Can you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt which it produces?19:46
jagginessDidji, DWSR, sudo isnt needed if you use a gui app like nautilus or konqueror to do a smb share mount19:46
Jordan_U!bootinfo | Chris12319:46
ubottuChris123: Boot info script is a usefull script for diagnosing boot problems. Run the script following the directions here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1291280 and then look at RESULTS.txt (or !pastebin it for others to look at).19:46
Noobuntuand where would be my best bet of finding the stack trace? the end of the old log file or the begnning of the new log file?19:47
deadmundcalico: Unfortunately the ubuntu forums and ubuntu support in general is filled with the "noise" of thousands of people that have problems and are unable to fix those problems.  Because they are not tech savvy they often cannot fix the problem because they do not understand how to.  Additionally, they are often unable to recognize when the are having the same problem as someone else or not.  Due to this the link you posted likely does not relate to one sp19:47
deadmundecific problem.  Additionally, it might be a fixable problem (even at the time those people in the forum had it) and finally.  I'm not 100% convinced you had this 'problem'19:47
Chris123exodus I googled around a bit and found the solution to run "sudo stop network-manager" and it worked partially, I could install one package but the 2 others are still greyes out19:47
MerisSamL, yes you can install rEFIt from a LiveCD19:47
SamLexcellent!19:47
gordonjcpTheJumper: /etc/issue maybe19:47
deadmundcalico: So, no.  I do not know if the 'problem' in that thread is still unsolved.19:47
gordonjcpSamL: I don't know, possibly19:47
gordonjcpSamL: I did it from OSX Lion19:47
Jordan_UChris123: I will be gone for a few minutes, but I *will* be back (though possibly from my phone where typing will be slow).19:47
MerisSamL, also consider rEFInd instead19:47
Didjijagginess, DWSR, the command I'm using is sudo mount -t smbfs -o guest,umask=000 //Host/Share /srv/webfolder19:47
TheJumpergordonjcp, hmm.. etc issue seems to be just the release of ubuntu.19:47
SamLany particular reason (out of curiosity)?19:48
subz3r0have some trouble with the gnome3 fallback modus... The Icon of Truecrypt should appear in the panel, but I moved it somehow and cant get it back in the panel. Also ALT + Right mouse wont work. I just can move it on the desktop then, but not to the panel. any suggestions?19:48
MerisSamL, more options and can be installed on other OS'es.19:48
SamLah very good19:48
jagginessDidji, i believe it's 'cifs' for -t19:48
DWSRcifs works.19:48
jagginessDidji, i also think theres other stuff wrong..19:48
bhast2jagginess: I got it thanks19:48
Didjijagginess: like what?19:48
MerisSamL, afaik rEFIt is MacOSX installable only, that's why I recommend rEFInd.19:48
gordonjcpTheJumper: read up on how getty works19:48
SamLSo to get this strait, should i partition and install ubuntu prior to instally refind?19:49
gordonjcpMeris: handy19:49
SamLindeed19:49
TheJumpergordonjcp, good idea19:49
Chris123Jordan_U ubottu I cant download the tool because I cant install ndiswrapper19:49
* jagginess pulling out smb notes19:49
calicodeadmund, k brother, I can't stand this windows crap anymore esp. since I was infected with a keylogger recently, I'm going to install xubuntu again, I hope to see you around again when it comes down to the wireless situation again19:49
NoobuntuXorg crashes anyone?19:49
MerisSamL, no. First install rEFInd, then Ubuntu and any other OS'es ;-)19:49
deadmundcalico: I'll be in this chat for the next several hours probably.  Just PM me to make my client yell :)19:50
dr_willis! anyone19:50
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.19:50
calicok19:50
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MerisSamL, do you use a MacBook and do you want to triple-boot?19:50
NoobuntuI ve been trying to read the Xorg logs to find the stacktrace...19:50
SamLi am using a macbook and i jsut want to single boot ubuntu19:50
NoobuntuI ve got 2 - Xorg.log.old and Xorg.log19:50
jagginessbhast2, stuff changes over time thats why my head spins.. do modprobe cifs, and modprobe smbfs, tell me which shows up in lsmod<enter>19:51
Noobuntuwhere would I find the crash logs? end of .log.old or beginning of .log?19:51
Noobuntu:-/19:51
sliddjurHow do I set default file permissions (umask?) to rw-rw---- for everything created in /usr/market ?19:51
MerisSamL, http://lifehacker.com/5531037/how-to-triple+boot-your-mac-with-windows-and-linux-no-boot-camp-required19:51
subz3r0Noobuntu, check the timestamps!19:51
Noobuntuubuntu >> mac .. IMO :D19:51
bhast2jagginess: have no clue what you mean there19:51
TheJumpergordonjcp, oh sorry.. /etc/issue is the right file ^^ thank you :)19:51
jagginessbhast2, modprobe cifs (you may need to run it with sudo)19:52
Jordan_UChris123: Can you connect via ethernet, or copy boot info script over via a USB drive?19:52
jagginessbhast2, otherwise mount -t cifs won't work19:52
SamLtango19:52
Noobuntuwell , no timestamps inside the logs :(19:52
jagginessbhast2, note if you reboot you dont ever have to type modpobe cifs again19:52
gordonjcpd00durk00l: how big is this file, anyway?19:52
subz3r0"Noobuntu> ubuntu >> mac"??? Ubuntu =sofware, mac = hardware...19:52
Noobuntuor am I not reading it right?19:52
jagginessbhast2, apt-get install cifs-utils19:53
jagginessbhast2, apt-get install cifs-utils19:53
Noobuntusubz3ro: hmm.....19:53
krababbelNoobuntu: you could delete the log and restart syslogd I believe to have an empty log to start with19:53
d00durk00lgordonjcp: Its about 3.2gb19:53
MerisSamL, just substitute rEFInd with rEFIt and get installing. One issue about rEFInd, you'll need to enable BIOS-booting in the config file of rEFInd before it can detect any "BIOS"-based bootloaders.19:53
d00durk00lsorry was just researching the scp protocol19:53
Noobuntuokay krababbel..19:53
Noobuntuwill do19:53
klj613hello. with the `fine . -iname '*' -exec ....` does it have a iterator value? 1, 2, 3 etc19:53
gordonjcpd00durk00l: how fast is your internet connecton's upstream?19:53
klj613find*19:53
d00durk00lfast enough ;)19:53
d00durk00lnot quite sure sec..19:53
d00durk00lI know it is quite fast though19:53
jagginessbhast2, then try the mount -t cifs command19:54
Chris123Jordan_U I appreciate your help with my boot problem but I would rather try to figure out why I cant install the ndiswrapper packages first19:54
krababbelNoobuntu: service rsyslog restart19:54
jribklj613: why do you ask?19:54
gordonjcpd00durk00l: consider writing it to an SD card and sticking it in the post...19:54
DidjiHow do you unmount a mounted samba share without restarting?19:55
d00durk00lgordonjcp: That isn't a option19:55
Noobuntukrababbel: thank you  :)19:55
gordonjcpd00durk00l: as they used to say, never underestimate the bandwidth of a Transit van full of magtape19:55
Chris123Jordan_U Ill post RESULTS.txt as soon as I got my internet to work19:55
sliddjurHow do I set default file permissions (umask?) to rw-rw---- for everything created in /usr/market ?19:55
jagginessd00durk00l, scp is quite obsolete, sftp is the standard under ssh (sftp comes bundled with the ssh server, so just use any ssh/sftp client like filezilla/konqueror/ i think nautilus too can do sftp)19:55
klj613jrib, i want to rename files to 1, 2, 3 etc19:56
jribsliddjur: you would have to use ACLs19:56
d00durk00ljagginess: he would be using win719:56
prashant_123456on my fstab file UUID=108A-FAFC /media/sda6 vfat rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async 0 0              so only root user can create files on sda619:56
jribklj613: I don't think so.  You'd have to do some basic bash scripting as far as I know19:56
d00durk00lI can deal with my end just want something that can be deployed easy on his19:56
jagginessDidji, depends which smb client you're using. You don't always have to use the cli19:56
Merisd00durk00l, if the file is sensitive, you can just encrypt it before sending it on a SD-card. Just use a TrueCrypt volume and you're set.19:57
gordonjcpd00durk00l: in the early 2000s I was routinely transferring 250GB of data a couple of times a week between a site in England and my local office19:57
Didjijagginess: I am using the cli, and I'm not aware of any non-cli alternative.19:57
jagginessd00durk00l, filezilla is also on winbloze/mac (linux of course has it)19:57
gordonjcpd00durk00l: we had a 2Mbps symmetric line19:57
d00durk00lMeris: No there is no addy to send it too ;)19:57
jagginessDidji, i already mentioned a couple.19:57
jribsliddjur: documentation for ACLs can be found in the man pages for "setfacl", "getfacl", and "mount" (you need to add the "acl" option for the partition in question)19:57
gordonjcpd00durk00l: it would take over two weeks to transfer the data over the 2M E1 line19:57
dr_willisprashant_123456:  i think some of those options make no sence when used with a  vfat partition19:57
Noobuntukrababbel: I was actually using Wubi before - till I tried to update to Precise back in May19:57
Noobuntuupgrade broke my system :(19:57
Didjijagginess: right, it's just that I've got this installed now.  I mean obviously there's a way it works.19:57
jagginessDidji, nautilus (gnome's default file browser), konqueror (kde's or i think it's other alternative standard), and there's filezilla19:58
d00durk00ljagginess: and filezilla is sftp?19:58
gordonjcpd00durk00l: so what we had was, we had a pair of RAID arrays in a 10U rack case19:58
jagginessd00durk00l, ya it does sftp and other type of ftp19:58
d00durk00lgordonjcp: Using what?19:58
prashant_123456dr_willis, so what to do with that any solutions19:58
gordonjcpd00durk00l: masses of SCSI disks, very expensive19:58
Noobuntutried to fix it for 3 months - just couldn't get my Wlan working :(19:58
Merisd00durk00l, I see, well, in that case, go with sftp/ scp19:58
klj613jrib, instead. is it a way for `-exec` in `find` to run two commands? mv then something else etc19:58
jagginessd00durk00l, when i say sftp, i mean "sftp/ssh"19:58
prashant_123456dr_willis, ntfs is ok but the problem is with vfat19:58
dr_willisprashant_123456:  i dont know your original problem.. but that fstab entry is 25% garbage.19:58
gordonjcpd00durk00l: I had a Citroën XM, a fairly fast car with a huge boot and very soft hydraulic suspension so the disks didn't get rattled19:58
krababbelNoobuntu: well good luck, I got weird behaviour too once, reinstalled a package I never touched, and now it works again :)19:58
jagginessd00durk00l, you just need to install the openssh server on linux, and sftp is available19:58
gordonjcpd00durk00l: and I had a diesel card paid for by the office down south19:59
jribkrababbel: you could probably put them in bash -c.  #bash might have a better way for you19:59
DWSRIs there a ubuntu-server metapackage?19:59
DWSROr, does ubuntu-server use a different kernel?19:59
krababbelNoobuntu: but wlan I never had to use (luckily)19:59
d00durk00ljagginess: Damnit I just realized something I have my linux box behind a second router... damnit... all this to help a guy out19:59
dr_willis!info ubuntu-server19:59
gordonjcpd00durk00l: 200 miles between offices, 250GB of data transferred in four hours - hard to beat that even today19:59
ubottuPackage ubuntu-server does not exist in precise19:59
prashant_123456dr_willis, i cannot have write permissions to my vfat only root user can write on it but the thing in ntfs is different any user can write to it19:59
d00durk00lgordonjcp: BRAVO!!!19:59
Noobuntukrababbel: I couldn't even install anything - it broke all my networking entirely tools20:00
d00durk00lgordonjcp: all that doesn't help me tho :P20:00
gordonjcpd00durk00l: stick an SD card in the post ;-)20:00
jean-michelhello20:00
Noobuntuhad to wipe everything clean and installed it - this time on a fresh partition20:00
Noobuntuno wubi :)20:00
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d00durk00lSo my ul bandwidth is 1.56mbps20:00
jean-michelhow are you ?20:00
dr_willisprashant_123456:  you need to use the proper dmask and fmask options, or set the uid/gid options of you want a single user to have full access.. or try the ntfs-config tool..20:00
gordonjcpd00durk00l: so five hours to transfer, give or take20:01
dr_willis!vfat | prashant_12345620:01
d00durk00lgordonjcp: I cannot as there is no address to send it too20:01
ubottuprashant_123456: To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE20:01
jagginessNoobuntu, you doing a dualboot there?20:01
Noobuntuinterestingly though - an article I read some months back put Wubi ahead of a dedicated Ubuntu install on some benchmarks :)20:01
Meris!ask | jean-michel20:01
ubottujean-michel: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience20:01
jagginessNoobuntu, you wish..20:01
Noobuntuyep - Windows and Ubuntu20:01
calicoShould I install Ubuntu with ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer  or  with unetbootin, what's better?20:01
d00durk00lgordonjcp: I don't like the idea of having a open server for over 5 hours20:01
Noobuntujaggginess: Not my opinion - just an article I read20:01
jagginessNoobuntu, wubi means a loopback file on ntfs. There's no article in the world saying that unless it's a noob :)20:01
dr_williscalico:  one is a wubi install.. is that what you want?20:02
d00durk00lHow do torrents work ?  Do I have to host the file or is uploaded ?20:02
gordonjcpd00durk00l: is at least one of the machines running Linux?20:02
DWSRDoes ubuntu-server use a different kernel?20:02
d00durk00lI am20:02
Noobuntujagginess: that makes sense - and I thought so too - but let me see If i can find that article20:02
d00durk00lhe is not20:02
subz3r0d00durk00l, where is the problem at all? Just install the openssh-server (sudo apt-get install openssh-server) then configure it for using pubkeys.... then open nautilus from the other side ssh://name@ip:port/ and done.20:02
calicodr_willis, I'm not sure about the difference in the end results that's why I asked20:02
dr_williscalico:  if you want a full normal install use the unetbootin, or other tools to make a bootable flash to install form20:02
calicodr_willis, understood20:03
gordonjcpd00durk00l: what's the guy at the other end got?20:03
Merisd00durk00l, how much downstream bandwidth do you have?20:03
Didjijagginess: well, I tried nautilus, and it fails to completely there.20:03
dr_williscalico:  and run away from wubi.. ;)20:03
d00durk00lMeris: 2.7320:03
VeryhappyHi guys many programs in my Ubuntu crash very often.did I mess up my system already?20:03
d00durk00lgordonjcp: He is using win720:03
d00durk00lsubz3r0: The guy I am sending to is using win720:04
Merisd00durk00l, in MBit/s, or Mbyte/s?20:04
d00durk00lMBit/s20:04
gordonjcpd00durk00l: so he could probably run pscp and just copy it across from your machine, if you gave him an account20:04
Merisd00durk00l, so how big is this file anyway?20:04
d00durk00l3.2gb20:04
d00durk00lyeah I'm not giving him a account lol20:05
silverarrowdoes anyone know how x11 and xorg work?20:05
subz3r0d00durk00l, so? just tell him to use "WINSCP"20:05
noah_Question about setting up drives:  Running 12.04LTS.  I have two drives.  An SSD that holds the OS for booting, and a second drive "data" for all the data, home directories, etc. The data drive is encrypted with LUKS.  With my current setup, whenever I reboot, I get a password entry screen to decrypt the data drive, where my home directory is.  This works fine.  The problem is that if I reboot remotely, I'm stuck as I can't enter 20:05
noah_password.  If I keep my home directory on the SSD, there won't be enough room.  If I use a symbolic link, and the encrypted drive isn't mounted, that creates errors and issues.  Suggestions??20:05
dr_willissilverarrow:  yes....... ;)20:05
dr_willis!anyone20:05
ubottuA high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.20:05
silverarrowdr_willis, you are way strict on that one20:06
Merisnoah_, yes, you can redirect the20:06
jarredUbuntu Server vs Arch Linux, go20:06
ikoniano20:07
d00durk00lsubz3r0: well I am behind multiple routers... so I have to go and setup port forwarding .. pain in the ass20:07
HeadlessZombielol20:07
dr_willisjarred:  see ot channel20:07
noah_Meris:  Message was cut off...20:07
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d00durk00lI was hoping for something easyier20:07
Noobuntujagginess: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_wubi_1010&num=220:07
silverarrowdr_willis, is there a possibility x11 and open gl could be running without hardware acceleration, like the radeon graphics did not kick in?20:07
dr_willissilverarrow:  opengl has a software mode.. so yes. its posible20:08
d00durk00lis the / on ubuntu set as 777 by default?20:08
ikoniano20:08
dr_willisd00durk00l:  id say no20:09
Merisnoah_, so I've noticed... You don't *have* to use the homedir for all users on just one drive. You can make a user account, just for logging into your machine, with a tiny homedir on your SSD, after having logged in, you can open up another session from within that terminal, using your main user credentials.20:09
silverarrowdr_willis, if I suspect the radeon drivers are bypassed is there a way to make them take ?20:10
WeThePeoplehow would i find out if my computer has been hacked?20:10
dr_willisMeris:  you could have home dirs on network nfs shares also. ;)20:10
subz3r0d00durk00l, something easier? burn it to a dvd and send it to him via IPS20:10
Noobuntucheck your open ports20:10
Merisdr_willis, true, but I just give a local option first. NFS can be fiddly.20:10
silverarrowdr_willis, or rather, could I remove opendl packages or are they needed+20:10
NoobuntuWethePeople: monitor the data leaving your system20:10
dr_willissilverarrow:  i dont mess with ati. i theres dozens of guides out there about specific ati chipsets and work arounds/problems with them20:11
d00durk00lsubz3r0: He doesn't want to say his address over the phone20:11
WeThePeoplenoobuntu, i have a firewall running and sometimes i get random hits20:11
d00durk00lrandom hits?  Wow20:11
subz3r0d00durk00l, LOL20:11
NoobuntuWeThePeople: I don't understand random hits20:11
Jordan_UChris123: OK. I will be in and out for the next few hours.20:12
jagginessNoobuntu, i do suppose it's doing the actual writing much later, a-sync.. The other performance, the first one shows wubi is slower..20:12
Didjidoes anyone know how to mount a windows share in a Ubuntu, and ensure that I have write access?20:12
WeThePeoplenoobuntu, from ip addresses20:12
calicoHow do I make sure I will not screw up my windows installation while installing ubuntu from flash drive, are there any specifics20:12
Noobuntujagginess: Agredd most of the benchmarks make sense20:12
subz3r0!mount | Didji20:12
ubottuDidji: mount is used to attach devices to directories. See also https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount20:12
WeThePeoplepings20:12
Merisd00durk00l, nice, (heh, you did *encrypt* the line first, didn't you ? <= just kidding ;-) )20:12
jagginessDidji, write-access is controlled from the server20:12
WeThePeopleor something20:12
Didjijagginess: the server is giving write access.20:12
Noobuntujagginess: With SQLite, PostgreSQL, and FS-Mark the Wubi setup was dramatically faster, which does raise concerns over data integrity with some operations likely being carried out a-synchronously or batched.20:12
jagginessDidji, you need to enable "write" permission on the share(from windows), and "write" permission on the ntfs filesystem (again you set this up on windows too)20:13
Didjisubz3r0: yes, I've been using that document for a couple days now.20:13
d00durk00lMeris: ?20:13
d00durk00lthe first line?20:13
Merisd00durk00l, I mean the phone line of course ;-) nvm20:13
NoobuntuWeThePeople: reverse look up the ip next time20:13
d00durk00lSorry long day ... dumb it down20:13
Didjijagginess: yes.  Every other (non-Ubuntu) machine on the network have no problem writting to the share.20:13
jagginessNoobuntu, that article is two years old.. i can't dispute it because there must be other surveys that counter those findings..20:13
bekksNoobuntu: That happens because of the async IO in windows. Benchmarking IO times of wubi INSIDE the ubuntu install is a fail by design.20:13
subz3r0d00durk00l, so you want the super duper easy way.... install ubuntu-one, pack the file with 7zip and a passwort, upload it to ubuntu-one and share the link with him20:13
hjubalhi, is it possible to mount a Nexus phone in Ubuntu 12.04 using MTP?20:14
d00durk00lMeris: Oh I could give a crap the stuff I am sending isn't senstive .. He just doesn't want to anounce his addy on his phone20:14
subz3r0*password20:14
jagginessbekks, wubi doesn't run in windows, but runs off a loopbackfile on ntfs20:14
jagginesstsk.20:14
bekksjagginess: which is merely the same from the point of async IO.20:14
d00durk00lsubz3r0: passwort a file encryption program?20:14
wilee-nileehjubal, I use gMTP for my nexus 720:15
jagginessbekks, um.. no..20:15
d00durk00lsubz3r0: How much space does ubuntu-one allow for free account?20:15
Merisd00durk00l, you  could use VoIP over an encrypted channel if "your contact" ;-) is that paranoid.20:15
subz3r0d00durk00l, trolling around? PACK THE DAMN FILE WITH THE SOFTWARE YOU LIKE20:15
subz3r0and hand it over to him trought ubuntu-one20:15
hjubalwilee-nilee, gMTP fails and so mtp-detect20:15
bekksjagginess: Then please share with us how to enforce sync I/O on ntfs and why that would be faster than async I/O. :)20:15
OerHeksd00durk00l, how much space do you need?20:15
d00durk00l3.2gb20:15
Noobuntubekks: Am i missing something here? Sync I/O faster than Async I/o?? :-/20:16
Merissubz3r0, won't work, unless d00durk00l has a paid account. One has an initial capacity of 2GB.20:16
wilee-nileehjubal, I don't mount it per say other then it is reading the unit and I can load stuff to it, I have not looked for a click on mount.20:16
OerHeksMeris 5gb*20:16
d00durk00lMeris: THank you sir20:16
d00durk00lOerHeks: they changed it recently?20:16
OerHeksfor ubuntu-one that is20:17
MerisOerheks, ah, so they increased it? Sweeet.20:17
subz3r0Meris, split the files... and its 5 gigs for free20:17
bekksNoobuntu: No, it isnt. async io is faster in almost all use cases.20:17
Noobuntubekks: Thats what I thought too :)20:17
subz3r0and stuff like "he doesnt want to give me his adress on the phone" sounds REALLY ODD, doesnt it?20:17
hjubalwilee-nilee, gMTP complains "LIBMTP PANIC: failed to open session on second attempt" and hangs20:17
d00durk00lis there a simple program that can encrypt files via the terminal?20:18
VeryhappyMy KDE is very buggy since I installed ubuntu. Did I break my system and if i did can i repair it and how?20:18
Merissubz3r0, yes, sounds like a paranoid contact.20:18
jribd00durk00l: sure, gpg20:18
Noobuntubut I didn't understand jagginess20:18
Noobuntuwhen he said the test i flawed by design?20:18
Noobuntuis*20:18
d00durk00ljrib: Thanks forgot about that20:18
subz3r0jrib,  and you tell him how gpg works :D20:18
subz3r0he wants a easy way to handle that thing ;)20:19
subz3r0an20:19
wilee-nileehjubal, that is about the gist of what I know here, I have a W7 install for using word only, but now has a use for messing with the nexus 7 easily.20:19
MerisVeryhappy, "break" your system? that is kinda hard when only your desktop environment is malfunctioning. Why don't you just make a backup of your personal settings, purge the DE and reinstall it?20:19
subz3r0just pack the file with 7zip+password and upload it to ubuntu one or any other file hoster for free20:19
jagginessd00durk00l, nothing is simple in the terminal, you just have to learn how to use it :/20:19
WeThePeopled00durkool, cfs20:19
hwkiller-netbookwell, it is "simple"20:20
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hwkiller-netbookas in engineering20:20
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WeThePeopleits in the soft center20:20
jagginesshwkiller-netbook, obviously you don't know engineering but use the word.. funny guy20:20
hwkiller-netbook?20:21
d00durk00lWell thnaks for all the help guys :)20:21
hwkiller-netbooksimple as in engineering, not as in ease of use is a common phrase20:21
Merisd00durk00l, np20:21
jagginesshwkiller-netbook, you talk like you know how to analyze atoms but see life from a clerical point of view.. you made no sense on that last one20:21
hjubalwilee-nilee, don't know what gist is20:22
subz3r0!ot20:22
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!20:22
SamLmeris, do i need to setup a special partition for refind?20:22
wilee-nileehjubal, a totality20:22
hwkiller-netbookjagginess, honestly, I don't have time for pedantic nonsense today.20:22
VeryhappyMeris how can i remove all personal settings that did break my system and is there anything that i have to delete to get it back to standard ?20:22
VeryhappyLol i meant my KDE not system sorry20:22
jagginesshwkiller-netbook, you're a user, not an engineer. Engineering isn't simple.20:23
* jagginess thinks whoever says engineering is simple is nonsense20:23
subz3r0jagginess, please back to topic. thx20:23
jribhwkiller-netbook, jagginess: let's move back to support please20:23
toobluescdo it for the lulz20:23
MerisSamL, just follow the instructions I have pointed out and you'll be fine. It's all there...: http://lifehacker.com/5531037/how-to-triple+boot-your-mac-with-windows-and-linux-no-boot-camp-required20:23
d00durk00lwhen I try to use /server command it gives me no protocol manager error is there other param's I am missing? I don't remember having to use anything else20:23
SamLyah im going through it20:23
hwkiller-netbookjagginess, "simple as in engineering" does not mean engineering is simple, it means "simple" as in the engineering use20:23
boboy77bhttp://bitchinbeach.com/Forum/index.php?tid=30&title=The_Best_TEEN_Porn_Movie_Collection20:23
MerisSamL, here's a link to rEFInd: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/20:24
SamLim looking at these pictures and im seeing what lokos l20:24
SamLlooks like an MBR partition that's fat20:24
jagginessfat32 likely20:25
MerisSamL, did you install Bootcamp or did you not?20:25
* jagginess remembers fat16 which/may be used on some small sd cards20:25
SamLI do not have OSX installed and I have no OSX CD availble20:25
* ikonia would like jagginess to stop with random /me commands.20:25
WeThePeoplehi20:26
MerisSamL, MBR has nothing to do with (V)FAT per se. It just is is the Master Boot Record, not the File Allocation Table(FAT)20:26
SamLok20:27
SamLthe install for refind looks like the system is already installed20:27
SamL(manual install)20:27
protestContestdoes anyone know of any windows mbr utilities that I can run from Ubuntu?20:27
protestContestlike bootrec20:28
MerisSamL, in that case it's even easier and you *will* need rEFInd instead of rEFIt. That's exactly why I pointed you to rEFInd.20:28
PoundXIPoundXI/c all20:28
MerisprotestContest, what are you trying to accomplish?20:28
SamLright, ok20:28
SamLbecause the triple-boot is using refit lol20:29
protestContestMeris: have a friend's windows laptop that needs the mbr fixed, and it won't boot into anything but my ubuntu flash drive20:29
calicoI just installed xubuntu off a usb drive but it booted straight to windows without asking anything?! Anothr WEIRD thing - my time is messed up it used to 11pm now is 2am :O20:29
jagginessMeris, what's refind? (that a newer fork of refit?)20:29
Merisjagginess, it is :-)20:29
jagginessthanks didn't know that :)20:30
* jagginess has a macbook couple years back on refit, refit is dry since 201020:30
Merisjagginess, just follow the link: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/20:30
Merisjaggo20:30
ghost_italiano20:30
ghost_!list italiano20:30
bekks!it | ghost_20:30
ubottughost_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)20:30
subz3r0!it ghost_20:30
subz3r0args :>20:30
jagginessMeris, would you happen to know how much it would be a pita if one uses grub-efi over grub-pc to have working with refit?20:31
klotzekCan i install ubuntu on Amiga PPC?20:31
jagginessMeris, ,/refind// sorry :/20:31
jagginessklotzek, dont think so, but probably with debian you can20:32
OerHeks!ppc20:32
ubottuPowerPC.  Formerly used by Apple for the Macintosh line of computers. Variants are now used in popular gaming consoles. PPC was a fully supported Ubuntu architecture up to and including edgy. It is now a community port, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PowerPCFAQ20:32
klotzekThx.20:32
Merisjagginess, not sure, but the last time I checked grub-efi had some serious issues.20:33
bekksklotzek: 12.10 has ppc images again.20:33
calicoI just installed xubuntu off a usb drive but it booted straight to windows without asking anything?! Anothr WEIRD thing - my time is messed up it used to 11pm now is 2am :O20:33
OerHeksgood newss bekks all i find is 10.1020:33
jagginess!xubuntu20:34
ubottuXubuntu is Ubuntu with Xfce instead of !GNOME. More info at http://www.xubuntu.org and http://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/ - To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop » - Join #xubuntu for support - See also: !Ubuntu and !Xubuntu-Channels20:34
bekksOerHeks: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/20:34
bekksOerHeks: I got that from google, seconds ago.20:34
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VeryhappyWhat do i have to remove to get my KDE in standard state user settings and other files and how do i do that?20:35
OerHeks!cookie | bekks20:35
ubottubekks: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!20:35
jagginessMeris, well the tradeoff i've read has something to do with the gfx, eg, using the grub-pc uses the mac in bios-emulation mode and I read the gfx isn't as ideal if straight efi was being used, that's why i'm interested in using grub-efi20:35
bekksOerHeks: \o\\o//o/ ;)20:35
OerHeks!purekde20:35
ubottuIf you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde »20:35
Merisjagginess, you can always test of course, but I wouldn't use it for a "production" machine.20:35
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OerHeksVeryhappy, if you messed up an account, create a fresh one :-)20:36
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MerisVeryhappy, now *that* is a good advice of Oerheks ^You can copy any settings you *want* at your leisure when logged into the new account.20:37
xj98jeepI have Ubuntu 12.04 installed on a boot HDD, with two more HDDs in a hardware RAID 0 array that were configured in a previous windows 7 install. They show up in the BIOS, but not in Ubuntu. do I need to redo the RAID array so that Ubuntu can see it? or is there a package I'm missing or something20:38
MerisVeryhappy, if ou have screwed things up on a system-wide level, my more complex purge => reinstall will come in handy.20:38
bekksxj98jeep: Which hardware raid controller do you have?20:39
VeryhappyOk thanks20:39
xj98jeepnot sure, whatever came with the motherboard. It's a gigabyte 990fx board, i'll see what chipset it has20:39
VeryhappySee you20:39
bekksxj98jeep: Since you can see both disks in Ubuntu, you do not have a hardware raid controller, but just a fakeraid controller.20:39
n1ckn4me09876543Jordan_U:  auronandace:  are you guys still here?  I found the problem now, os-prober and update-grub wont detect win7 because the option for win8 in grub boot loader is actually another boot loader for Windows Boot Manager, that's whta shows up when i select win8 in grub boot, it shows BLACK SCREEN with options for Win7 and Win8. I can log in on either so everything is fine now.20:39
xj98jeepI actually *can't* see them in ubuntu, only in the BIOS20:40
jagginessn1ckn4me09876543, comeon man, windows 8 is not even out until late october, stop complaning about your illegal warez not working20:40
jkbbwranyone know how to monitor mv with pv?20:40
jkbbwrjagginess: who said anything about illegal, I have a legal win8 copy20:41
protestContestjagginess: msdnaa ftw20:41
bekksxj98jeep: Still, that controller on the 990FX is a fakeraid controller.20:41
i7cprotestContest: :)20:42
jkbbwrserisouly anyone20:42
jkbbwrmonitor mv using pv20:42
jkbbwrcant find it anywhere20:42
calicoSo how I go about booting linux if after installation it straight booted to windows without prompting anything20:42
guntbert!enter | jkbbwr20:42
ubottujkbbwr: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!20:42
xj98jeepCool, I'm not very familiar fakeraid. I understand what it is but I'm not sure how to proceed with troubleshooting.20:42
WeThePeopleis ubuntu the heavy weight  of the distros?20:42
jagginesscalico, usually it's the other way around, so no worry ;)20:42
subz3r0calico, this is not ubuntu specific. its up to you to find out how you can enter the BOOT-MENUE20:42
Merisxj98jeep, protestContest, jkbbwr, Well, I won't support any Windows Version that wants to restrict bootloader installation on a hardware level. I boycott it instead.20:43
billccalico: i have 8 seconds to choose linux20:43
xj98jeepShould I just dismantle the fakeraid array and do a software raid within Ubuntu? I was trying to not use software RAID because I thought I was using a hardware RAID but now that I know that isn't the case are there any advantages to staying with the fakeraid?20:44
bekksxj98jeep: Yes.20:45
* jagginess is reading http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1NzE20:45
calico...also why would my windows system clock be messed after installing linux20:45
Merisxj98jeep, FakeRAID is not portable across different chipsets, so it's pretty much vendor lock-in.20:45
bekksxj98jeep: Actually, until you know why you need a software raid (know it, dont think you do) you dont need raid at all.20:45
subz3r0calico, this is well known. search for something like "dual boot ubuntu win7 wrong time" bla...20:46
xj98jeepit appears I've got some thinking to do. Thanks for the info folks!20:47
evgen123Hi! Can I install v3.5.3-quantal kernel to Ubuntu 12.04 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?20:49
internetN00bwhat app can I use to manage my passwords?20:49
bekksinternetN00b: keypassx20:50
internetN00bI have over 20 passwords I need to remember :(20:50
ikoniaevgen123: something I'd advise you not to try20:50
bekksevgen123: Thats not a quantal kernel, bit a mainline kernel. Vanilla from kernel.org, no quantal patches included.20:50
subz3r0"keepassx"20:50
jagginessinternetN00b, i use a bprocessor storage account for my passwords20:50
izepaxinternetN00b: if it's password on internet i receomend LastPass20:50
internetN00bizepax, isn't lastpass a service?20:51
jagginesssubz3r0, i see two words in that20:51
internetN00bI don't want to do that, these are passwords for my bank accounts20:51
protestContestinternetN00b: +1 lastpass20:51
bekksinternetN00b: keypassx20:51
evgen123bekks> And?20:51
* jagginess believes a bprocessor storage acccount exists in his biological brain20:51
internetN00bkeypassx is a kde/qt app. I prefer gtk app20:51
subz3r0bekks its called "keepassx" not "keypassx"20:51
izepaxI trust lastpass for all my accounts20:51
evgen123bekks> it is good or bad idea?20:51
* ikonia again asks jagginess to stop with the random /me commands20:51
bekksevgen123: Thats not the kernel that will be included on quantal.20:51
jagginessikonia, i have no idea what keepassx is, or if it was even a real program20:52
subz3r0jagginess, mhh? two words?20:52
jagginesssubz3r0, will check it out20:52
ikoniajagginess: yes, so please stop with /me phrases.20:52
subz3r0jagginess, use your favorite search engine and youll know =)20:52
jagginessikonia, i only did 3. relax.. barely spare my wild thoughts..20:53
evgen123bekks> I understand, but it will be work on LTS precise?20:53
bekksevgen123: There is a mainline kernel deb for 12.04 which has the same kernel version as the deb for quantal.20:55
bekksevgen123: Why dont you use a mainline kernel for 12.04?20:55
ikoniaevgen123: why do you want to change the kernel ?20:55
ikoniawhat do you hope to get from this20:55
bekksevgen123: Mixing packages for different releases will most likely break your system.20:55
jaxdahlfor core things obviously. i don't think it's that big of an issue for standalone apps20:56
diverdudedid php 5.4 come to ubuntu yet?20:57
ikoniadiverdude: check20:58
lauratikadoes anyone knows how to change the MTU in ubuntu for openvpn??20:58
auronandace!info php20:58
ubottuPackage php does not exist in precise20:58
GraemeLion!info php520:58
ubottuphp5 (source: php5): server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (metapackage). In component main, is optional. Version 5.3.10-1ubuntu3.2 (precise), package size 1 kB, installed size 21 kB20:58
diverdudeikonia: how can i check it?20:58
bekks!php520:58
bekks!info php520:58
evgen123bekks, ikonia> default 3.2.0-30 kernel have many problems with hardware. I need to update.20:58
ikoniadiverdude: look in the package manager20:58
bekksevgen123: Thats not true. :) Which problems o you talk about?20:58
subz3r0lauratika, you can change the mtu within the openvpn configs, when i remember right20:58
GraemeLionUbutnu + 1 will have php5.20:59
GraemeLionEr.. 5.420:59
lauratikayou mean through network-manager??20:59
diverdudeikonia: arrg apt-cache show says Version: 5.3.3-1ubuntu9 :/21:00
subz3r0lauratika, network manager? openvpn does not have any GUI tools bundled21:00
subz3r0lauratika, sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 150021:00
evgen123bekks> Problem with kernel panic on nForce2 chipset. Problem with interraps in kworker on my noteboook/21:00
subz3r0or if you want to have it permanent: "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces" then add "mtu 1234"21:01
bekksevgen123: Is it a reproducable kernel panic? Or is it just a random event.21:01
evgen123bekks> first problem resolved in new kernel.21:01
lauratikasubz3r0 nope, you can as a matter of fact thorugh edit connections in network manager, now the question is how do i know what is the best MTU for specific websote?21:01
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bekksevgen123: Do you have link to the kernel bugreport or the kernel git changeset covering that problem?21:02
subz3r0lauratika, there is no built in tool for the openvpn-server. Only the commercial version has it. anyway... told you what u must change. read above...21:02
subz3r0lauratika, also in normal circrumstances there is no reason to change the MTU21:03
nothingspecialhttp://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=205558221:03
GycklarnWhat the... I just restarted my Ubuntu server for the first time since boot, and now my sudo privs are gone21:03
evgen123bekks> Yes, I saw a report on this issue. But the links are not preserved.21:03
subz3r0lauratika, and a "website" has nothing to do with a vpn solution. that are different things21:03
Gycklarnfor the first time since first boot, that is21:04
jribGycklarn: output of « groups »?21:04
Gycklarngycklarn printadmin21:04
bekksevgen123: Both the bug reports and the changesets are persistent ;)21:04
jribGycklarn: I assume you used usermod at some point?21:04
bhast2I lost my driver it says that You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA Xdriver21:04
lauratikasubz3r0 ok thanx, i wanted to change MTU because certain websites wont load under openvpn...21:04
GycklarnYup21:04
subz3r0lauratika, that has nothing to do with the MTU21:04
jribGycklarn: if you don't pass -a to usermod -G, you are removed from all your other groups.  What ubuntu version is this?21:04
evgen123bekks> current not resolved?21:04
GycklarnHaha, awesome. Uh 12.04 I think. Server.21:05
jribGycklarn: you need to add yourself back to the "sudo" group.  Do you have physical access to the server?21:05
GycklarnYes21:05
subz3r0lauratika, check this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface-in-ubuntu-linux.html21:05
lauratikain openvpn forum says some times certain websites wont load properly based on the packages beeing bigger at some websites which makes unreachable21:05
bhast2How do i get my Nvidia x driver back21:05
bekksevgen123: All bugreports are preserved, as long as it is an official bugreport in the official tracker :)21:05
jribGycklarn: then you can just reboot, select recovery mode, root console, and then issue: adduser YOUR_USERNAME_HERE sudo21:05
GycklarnAlright, awesome21:06
Gycklarnthanks21:06
ghost_italiano21:06
ghost_!canali21:06
lauratikathats why changing MTU sometimes addresses the issue21:06
ghost_!canali italiano21:06
bekks!it | ghost_21:06
ubottughost_: Vai su #ubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie! (per entrare, scrivi « /join #ubuntu-it » senza virgolette)21:06
jribGycklarn: you can use this "adduser" command to add users to groups so you don't have to worry about the quirk with usermod21:06
subz3r0lauratika, 1492 or 1500 for the MTU, other stuff will result in problems on ethernet21:06
Gycklarnyeah, I'll keep that in mind21:06
GycklarnAnd I'll ne more careful when following guides21:06
Gycklarnheh21:06
Gycklarnbe*21:06
evgen123bekks> but nForce2 work with new kernel very well21:07
ikoniaevgen123: who said it will ?21:08
lauratikasubz3r0 ok, im just trying to fiz an issue based on the info i got... do you know a better solution or where to look at in terms of vpn not allowing browser(s) to load certain websites??21:08
ikoniaevgen123: nforce has worked well for a long time21:08
GycklarnRight then, rebooting.21:08
subz3r0lauratika, try "traceroute www.thewebsiteswhichSnotworkin.com"21:08
bekksevgen123: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/984387 -- it says "fix released". So no need to use another kernel.21:08
ubottuLaunchpad bug 984387 in linux (Ubuntu Precise) "[Dell Studio XPS 1340,Alienware m17x] Kernel panic with 3.0.0-19 and 3.2.0-18 on boot" [High,Fix released]21:08
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subz3r0lauratika, it also depends on the server and it configs. Maybe the website is just blocked from that IP, or the website blocks your vpn. check those things with "ping" "traceroute" and maybe wireshark21:10
evgen123bekks, ikonia> I have problems with my nForce2 on default 3.2.0 kernel21:11
lauratikaif i change via proxy +vpn the site wont load with out vpn site will load.21:11
evgen123I view what this fixed, next time may be I try this kernel/21:12
maladoreanyone can help with getting a irc server running in ubuntu 11.10?21:12
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evgen123but now I have problem with kworker CPU usage 100%21:12
bhast2how do I fix my Nvidia x settings21:12
evgen123i read what it is kernel problem21:12
bhast2here is what I get http://i.cubeupload.com/Etf6oR.png21:14
ChaoticanarchyXcan anyone help me with making my display stop going into standby after ten minutes? I already tried using the system settings under Brightness and Lock21:15
jribChaoticanarchyX: pastebin « xset q »21:15
bhast2how do I restart the x-server21:16
ChaoticanarchyXI forgot how do you use the pastebin. could you refresh me on that jrib?21:17
auronandace!paste | ChaoticanarchyX21:17
ubottuChaoticanarchyX: For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.21:17
jribChaoticanarchyX: run command, copy output, visit paste.ubuntu.com in a browser, paste output, submit, post resulting url here in irc21:18
calicoWhat was the name of the software used to switch between to video cards on laptops21:18
charHey guise do you like cheese pizza?21:18
jrib!ot | char21:18
ubottuchar: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!21:18
bhast2http://imagebin.org/22781921:19
subz3r0lauratika, try this "ping -Mdo -s 1500 8.8.8.8" when u get something like "mp_seq=1 Frag needed and DF set (mtu = 1492)" reduce the mtu until you get the ping correctly21:19
auronandacecalico: bumblebee?21:19
calicoyea yea, thxn21:19
ChaoticanarchyXok i have terminal up, whats the command to bring up the info i need for the pastebin21:19
jribChaoticanarchyX: xset q21:19
calicoChaoticanarchyX, http://pastebin.com/ ?21:20
calicouh oh21:21
calicook21:21
calico:D21:21
ChaoticanarchyXhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1195480/21:21
bhast2well back to windows21:21
jribChaoticanarchyX: see that bottom section there?21:21
evgen123bekks, ikonia> 3.4 kernel not booting :-)21:21
ChaoticanarchyXyes21:21
auronandacebhast2: have fun21:22
bhast2well nvidia driver messed up21:22
bhast2and I have tried everything it said21:22
ChaoticanarchyXjrib yes21:22
evgen123bekks, ikonia> what problem with CPU load by kworker?21:22
jribChaoticanarchyX: did you find the option in the gui to configure the standby time?21:22
bhast2and it don't work21:22
ChaoticanarchyXyes, under brightness and lock, i set it to never but it still keeps going into standby after ten minutes21:23
jribChaoticanarchyX: and if you re-open that dialog, is the setting reset?21:23
evgen123guys! what problem with CPU load by kworker?21:23
ChaoticanarchyXno, it stays on the setting i set it to. It's almost like it ignors it21:24
bhast2Can someone help me get my Nvidia driver working again21:24
OerHeksevgen123, what is yours?21:24
auronandacebhast2: how did you install it?21:24
bhast2thru additional drivers21:25
jribChaoticanarchyX: you can do something like "xset dpms 0 0 0" if you wish (that won't be permanent though)21:25
bhast2than I enabled the sec monitor21:25
bhast2and restarted21:25
ChaoticanarchyXjrib: let me try21:25
bhast2and now it says I don't have a Nivida driver installed21:25
auronandacebhast2: pastebin lsmod21:26
hashemHey guys. I'm trying to install autojump, but it flat out doesn't work. It installs fine with mac homebrew, so I'm a little frustrated that it's giving me so much trouble in Ubuntu.21:26
ChaoticanarchyXjrib: i typed it in to terminal and it seemed to accept it. it didn't reject the command21:27
jribChaoticanarchyX: see if xset q agrees21:27
bhast2auronandace: http://pastebin.com/4bk1r4ft21:27
auronandacebhast2: the driver is in use21:27
lauratikasubz3r0: i set it down to 900 and still keep getting the same result mp_seq=1 Frag needed and DF set (mtu = 1200)21:27
bhast2auronandace: http://imagebin.org/22781921:27
mdeboardHi everyone, I am getting md5sum mismatch between direct-download desktop 32 and 64 bit ISOs, but torrented ISOs' md5 sums are correct21:28
zykotick9!info autojump | hashem are you using "sudo apt-get install autojump"?21:28
ubottuhashem are you using "sudo apt-get install autojump"?: autojump (source: autojump): shell extension to jump to frequently used directories. In component universe, is optional. Version 18-1 (precise), package size 12 kB, installed size 81 kB21:28
subz3r0lauratika, so lower it more21:28
lauratikatry 900 and still21:28
zykotick9mdeboard: torrents have error correction, regular html downloads don't...21:29
subz3r0lauratika, best thing would be, you would do that within a terminal on the vpnserver21:29
ChaoticanarchyXhttp://paste.ubuntu.com/1195494/21:29
auronandacebhast2: i don't use multiple screens anymore, that never happened to me before21:29
evgen123OerHers> 100% CPU load by kworker process21:30
linus@bhast2 do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf?21:30
lauratikavpn server?? how is that possible.21:30
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mdeboardzykotick9: I see, what does that mean in layman's terms for the downloads? Are packets being dropped or? I've downloaded 8-10 times today and errors each time.21:30
bhast2linus: yes21:30
pinpotali have 12.04  how can i upgrade to 12.04.1??21:30
linuscan i see that?21:30
zykotick9mdeboard: use a torrent ;)21:30
auronandacepinpotal: just stay updated21:30
hashem@ubottu yes. sudo apt-get install autojump. And then I did man autojump, and added "       .  /usr/share/autojump/autojump.sh" to my .bashrc, and reloaded my terminal21:30
zykotick9pinpotal: check using "lsb_release -a"21:31
mister_mis the ubuntu install disk supposed to detect widnows and install grub? or did I have to do that seperately21:31
auronandacepinpotal: keep it in the channel please21:31
mdeboardzykotick9: :P Thanks.21:31
bhast2linus: http://pastebin.com/pYJvx0p921:31
hashemubottu, I replied above (added a @ by accident)21:31
ubottuhashem: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)21:31
jribmister_m: it should install grub and grub should detect windows21:32
mister_mjrib: I don't know what I messed up then. it just goes straight to windows like grub didn't get isntalled21:32
jrib!grub | mister_m21:32
ubottumister_m: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)21:32
zykotick9!pm | pinpotal21:32
ubottupinpotal: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.21:32
jribmister_m: follow that RestoreGrub link21:32
hashemCan someone who's not a bot help me get autojump working?21:32
pinpotalbut how can i know if it is updates and has 12.04.1, bacause my system says 12.0421:32
pinpotal?21:32
ChaoticanarchyXjrib: do you think you can help me with one more thing? My grub loader keeps asking me which version of Ubuntu I want to load each time i boot up. This happened when rushed through the installer and accidentally had it set up one of my other drives to load up as the main boot drive. I redid it on the drive i wanted to originally and then through disk utility erased the disk i accidentally had it set up and everytime i boot up it as21:32
auronandacepinpotal: lsb_release -sd21:33
pinpotal?21:33
jrib!grub | ChaoticanarchyX21:33
ubottuChaoticanarchyX: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager since 9.10 (Karmic). Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2 - See !grub1 for releases before Karmic (9.10)21:33
pinpotalterminal?21:33
jribChaoticanarchyX: that second link has info no how to configure grub21:33
auronandacepinpotal: indeed21:33
linushttp://pastebin.com/pYJvx0p921:34
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ChaoticanarchyXits having a problem with the page. It keeps saying content encoding error21:35
linusthat is my last working nvidia xorg.conf before 96.43 was dropped now i use nouveau21:35
bhast2linus: what do I do than21:36
linusi use dual monitors so it should be pretty much the same and i cant find any serious differneces21:36
Noobuntuany third party softwares out there to improve the synaptics touchpad experience?21:36
NoobuntuI mean   - custom touchpad actions, filter out unintended touches, etc?21:37
Gycklarnjrib, Thanks again for the help, it works again. Had to find out how to make my system writable first, though.21:38
linuscan you post the output of sudo lspci -k21:38
joehey guys21:39
ChaoticanarchyXlinus: i use dual moniters as well, i was wondering if you get this with your setup. when your switching your mouse between moniters (simply scrolling from one screen to the next) does it skip you to the other end of the moniter your scrolling onto?21:39
wingyhas anyone here succeeded with installing ubuntu on mac os x?21:39
joeubuntu 12.04, everything is blurry after installing nvidia driver21:39
joecan someone help me please?21:40
GraemeLionwingy: On the hardware? Yes21:40
linus@mhoney i think that is a issue with crossing the launcher21:40
wingyGraemeLion: yeah on macbook21:40
gordonjcpjoe: resolution?21:40
wingyGraemeLion: then its possible .. do you have advice?21:40
zykotick9joe: to start, using nvidia-settings verify your resolution is correct21:40
ClientAliveI never did a bash script before but now I want to do something simple. Can someone help? I want to put my .bash_aliases in /  then make the perms so you have to be root or sudo to modify it, then make the content so it contains aliases for root or myUserName (an if statement?) - to make a section in the file for each. How do you write an if statement for that? Do I need to include put my .bashrc in /  then? Need to make more than one21:40
ClientAlive[16:37] <ClientAlive> sectin in it to check login and use the right part of the file based on that?21:40
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zykotick9ClientAlive: fyi root's home dir is /root not / - 2nd don't use root...21:41
hashemwingy, I'd look at installing refit21:41
hashemwingy, then just make a usb installer stick and use that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick21:42
GraemeLionwingy: Check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam21:42
ChaoticanarchyXdoes anyone else get that using dual moniters?21:42
joegordonjcp: 1024x72821:42
wingyhashem: if i want only ubuntu in my computer then i can ignore refit right?21:42
BrightgalrsSo I've done the following steps:21:42
Brightgalrsburned the ubuntu 12.04 iso to my flashdrive using unetbootin21:42
Brightgalrspriority of the BIOS is as it should be21:42
Brightgalrsbooted using prepared flashdrive21:42
BrightgalrsAnd the result is "SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 4.06-pre1 Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al" and it just hangs there. What do I do.21:42
FloodBot1Brightgalrs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:42
gordonjcpjoe: does that match the native resolution of your monitor (probably not)21:42
ChaoticanarchyXits aggravating when your trying to scroll between the screens and you keep ending up on the other side of the screen21:43
joegordonjcp: well, i have 19 inch monitor, how could i tell?21:43
BrightgalrsSo I've done the following steps: 1) burned the ubuntu 12.04 iso to my flashdrive using unetbootin 2) priority of the BIOS is as it should be 3) booted using prepared flashdrive; And the result is "SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 4.06-pre1 Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al" and it just hangs there. What do I do.21:43
gordonjcpjoe: it'll probably tell you *somewhere*21:43
gordonjcpjoe: can you fiddle with the resolution settings in the control panel?21:43
joegordonjcp: nope21:44
zykotick9Brightgalrs: i have the system issue with my main system, a particular version of syslinux hangs on the same spot (regardless of what distro i'm using, after a particular version - no boot).  Hope you have better luck then I do with it.  best of luck.21:44
hashemwingy, I would still recommend it, because I've seen many people recommend it. When I installed linux on my macbook air I used rEFIt...It may have worked without it, but everything worked well with it.21:44
Brightgalrszykotick9: I have no idea what half of those words mean, but I assume you are in the same boat I am. :(21:45
dr_willisBrightgalrs:  you did check the md5sum of the iso? you could try some tools other then unetbootin also. Many at the pendrivelinux web site21:45
Brightgalrsdr_willis: I've tried Universal USB installer as well, same result21:45
zykotick9Brightgalrs: BUT - unetbootin IS my solution!  try using dd or cat, to put the iso onto the usb perhaps?!?21:45
dr_willisBrightgalrs:  try a simple DD to the usb ?21:45
saustinIs it possible to determine which traffic goes through a VPN and which doesn't based on which application is making a connection?21:46
joegordonjcp: it's either 1024x728 or auto21:46
Brightgalrsdr_willis: DD?21:46
dr_willisBrightgalrs:  yes you can 'dd' (image) the iso straight to usb and it should be bootable.21:46
dr_willisBrightgalrs:  or some of the grub2 boot the iso  tools at pendrivelinux may work21:46
Brightgalrsdr_willis: I only have a windows computer to work with right now21:46
joegordonjcp: and it wont save it if i hit save21:46
dr_willisBrightgalrs:  theres tools fo rwindows to image the iso sraight to flash21:47
Brightgalrsdr_willis: Ok I think I found one, I' try it now and report back21:47
wingyhashem: ok21:49
wingyhashem: are you having dualboot?21:49
hashemwingy, yes I had a dual boot. But you can just format your drive when you're in the ubuntu installer if you don't want to dual boot21:50
wingyok21:50
hashemwingy, so in general, I would install rEFIt, create an installation USB, and then plug the USB in the computer, boot (perhaps hold option while booting) and then boot the install and you're good21:51
wingyok thx21:51
dr_willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Win32DiskImager   is what ive used to image a iso to usb. but i think you need to rename the .iso to .img for the tool to see it21:51
subcoolHey, im setting up a NFS - and it says to mount to "/locale/ubuntu" is that /usr/local?21:52
Brightgalrsok thank you gentlemen, the  Image Writer for Windows worked perfectly21:52
zykotick9subcool: is this for the server (exports file)?  or on the client side (fstab file)?21:54
bekorhello friends i am using ubuntu 12.04 was running banshee and did not notice that my charger was not working correctly computer ran out of juice and when i restarted banshee did not work reinstalled it installed rhytmbox nothing works eccept vlc to play music any suggestions?21:54
zykotick9bekor: open a terminal, then "alsamixer".  use your arrow keys to got left and right (it might scroll to more volumes).  veryify that everyone is turned up and NOT muted (MM at the bottom of volumes)21:56
joeubuntu 12.04, fonts blurry and fuzzy after installing nvidia driver, can someone help me please?21:57
dr_willissubcool:  that would be an odd mount point..21:57
dr_willisjoe:  you ran nvidia-settings?  I cant say ive ever had the isue with blurry fonts, unless your res is incorrect.21:58
zykotick9joe: 1024x768 is a very low resolution.  i'm guessing your nvidia is not currently working.  pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log might help.21:58
joezykotick9: thanks zyk, in a few21:59
joezykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195552/22:01
zykotick9joe: also "lspci | grep -i vga" ;)22:01
joezykotick9: on the way ;)22:01
zykotick9joe: comes down to "Failed to load module "nvidia"" but i'm still reading22:02
joezykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195555/22:03
shareanyone elese experiencing crashes with nvidia 300.# in opengl games?22:03
zykotick9joe: 2 related questions.  what driver are you currently trying?  how did you install it?22:03
joezykotick9: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.20-pkg1.run, i just sh it22:05
zykotick9joe: .run - so you installed one you downloaded from nvidia.com22:05
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joezykotick9: that's right22:05
zykotick9joe: i'm so sorry - i can't help you further.   i believe there is an #nvidia channel perhaps though.  best of luck.22:06
subcoolzykotick9, im curious about both, but im working the client side22:06
joezykotick9: cheers22:06
LABcrabHello!  What is the difference between OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice?22:07
dr_willisjoe:  is this one of those laptops with a dual video card setup?22:07
zykotick9joe: 96 does appear to be the correct driver for that card btw.22:07
zykotick9dr_willis: no it's old ;)22:07
stupidmanhi all22:07
dr_williszykotick9:  :) thats good. ;P22:07
stupidmancan i ask you something22:07
dr_willis!ask | stupidman22:07
ubottustupidman: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience22:07
joezykotick: thanks i'll give it a shot :)22:07
stupidmanif I install now ubuntu 12.1022:07
stupidmanand if it's final22:07
black_13is possible to unpack the ubuntu alternate install to directory and use grub2 to boot off the contents of that directory to do a fresh install?22:07
stupidmancan i upgrade to the final22:07
stupidmanor have i to re-install22:08
zykotick9joe: fyi, i think using nvidia.com drivers on ubuntu is a very bad idea (but that's just my opinion - and i'm SUPER conservative)22:08
stupidmanif I install now ubuntu 12.1022:08
stupidmanand if it's final22:08
stupidmancan i upgrade to the final22:08
joedr_willis: not at all, old desktop with external card22:08
zykotick9!final | stupidman22:08
ubottustupidman: If you install a development version of Ubuntu Quantal and keep up with package updates, then you will be upgraded to the official release of 12.10 when it comes out. To make sure, type « sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade » in a terminal.22:08
zykotick9!enter > stupidman22:09
ubottustupidman, please see my private message22:09
KyraYuido i still need to have an antivirus and/or a firewall if im using ubunutu22:09
KyraYuiubuntu*22:09
zykotick9!virus | KyraYui22:09
ubottuKyraYui: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus22:09
zykotick9KyraYui: if you don't run services, then there isn't a huge need for a firewall either22:10
invitadohi, i need help22:10
KyraYuiwhat about downloading22:10
joezykotick: i understand that, i've tried 'nvidia-current' and that was worse22:10
zykotick9!tab > joe22:10
ubottujoe, please see my private message22:10
zykotick9joe: you need a 96 driver, is one in ubuntu?22:11
dr_willisKyraYui:  what about it?22:11
KyraYuido i need an antivirus if im doing alot of downloading in unbuntu22:11
joezykotick9: not sure22:11
L1I want to write a script to run in the terminal, that opens multiple tabs in the terminal and runs a command in each ("compass watch /some/dir"). Is this possible?22:12
sliddjurWhen I add a user, is there automaticly a group with the same name then?22:12
zykotick9joe: sorry man, if you've already tried the nvidia.com driver - i can't/won't help further.  i have no idea how to remove the potential damaging changes it just made.  a package can be easily removed with apt but what you just installed???  someone probably knows, but i consider your system corrupted/compromised.  sorry.22:12
jribsliddjur: how did you add the user?22:13
sliddjuruseradd22:13
joezykotick9: that's ok no prob. i might restore it and come back to you ;)22:13
grzeslawhello gyus, by the mistake in some way I change my lang from english to chinese :D do you know how to change it back from shell?22:14
jribsliddjur: by default, yes22:14
grzeslawemm.. I mean language in gnome..22:14
subcoolHey, im setting up a NFS - and it says to mount to "/locale/ubuntu" is that /usr/local?22:15
jribsubcool: you could use whatever you want22:16
zykotick9subcool: where you mount things - is up to you.  but i wouldn't mount your NFS stuff anywhere under /usr ...22:16
nobcakeandone know about smaba and how to get it to work on linux and xp?22:18
subcoolzykotick9, really? why?22:18
Gnea!samba | nobcake22:18
ubottunobcake: Samba is the way to cooperate with Windows environments. Links with more info: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/windows-networking.html - Samba can be administered via the web with SWAT.22:18
Gneanobcake: also try #samba, they are much more knowledgable22:18
subcoolnobcake, HAVE FUN!! samba is such a pain.22:19
zykotick9subcool: my interpretation of the hierarchy for filesystem reserves /usr for system files.  do many users access these mount points?22:19
subcoolzykotick9, just me22:20
zykotick9subcool: then what's wrong with mounting to your home directory?  WAY easier!22:20
subcoolzykotick9, nothign? thats what im asking. The guide says to use /locale/ubuntu - thats why i was curious about it22:21
zykotick9subcool: in your ~ directory just "mkdir foo" then mount into /home/username/foo22:21
evgen123Hi! I have a problem with kworker 100% CPU loading. How I can resolve this problem?22:21
SpinEevgen123: "echo disable > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe01"22:22
SpinEevgen123: and restart22:23
* zykotick9 sees above command failing22:23
* zykotick9 for 2 reasons now, that's gonna reset on reboot for sure22:23
zykotick9evgen123: ;) http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu22:24
black_13is it possible to boot off the the alternate iso image using grub2 ?22:26
evgen123SpinE> Setting is not saved on reboots.22:28
evgen123zukotick9> and what?22:28
zykotick9black_13: though it's not internal, grub can boot ISOs somehow (never tried myself).22:29
zykotick9evgen123: ?  i have no idea what you're even doing.  i was just commenting on what was suggested.22:29
black_13zykotick9: i have tried to use grub2 but it doesnt work correct i was hoping to find someone who had been successfull22:30
zykotick9!tab > evgen123 (i assuming you're using copy/paste but it's kinda failing because of the trailing >22:30
ubottuzykotick9: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)22:30
zykotick9!tab > evgen12322:30
ubottuevgen123, please see my private message22:30
Smackbookis there a way to find out why my computer apparently rebooted at 7am this morning?22:31
evgen123!tab22:32
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.22:32
zykotick9Smackbook: check kernel logs (ubuntu uses 2 i believe) somewhere in /var/log/22:32
Smackbookzykotick9: hmm ok thanks22:32
zykotick9Smackbook: sorry i can't be more specific :(22:33
evgen123zyk22:33
Smackbooknp thanks22:33
zykotick9evgen123: try "zyk<TAB><TAB>"22:34
evgen123zykotick9: thanks, I understand :-)22:34
evgen123so, how I can resolv kworker problem?22:35
zykotick9evgen123: try a non-KDE desktop and see if you still have high cpu load... <not a solution, but interesting testing>22:35
kkraussHey guys, due to some issues with my old unit I have decided to build a new one.  I want to make sure all of my new hardware will function properly with ubuntu, wasn't there a list somewhere of all the hardware that ran with ubuntu?22:36
dr_willis!hcl22:36
ubottuFor lists of supported hardware on Ubuntu see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport - To help debugging and improving hardware detection, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingHardwareDetection22:36
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dr_williskkrauss:  when in doubt. dont get 'cutting edge' stuff that just came out.. stick with stuff thats been out for a few months.  :) Like last years models on sale. ;P22:36
kkraussdr_willis, I am chcking out the list now.  I am not getting anything fancy, cheap board withonboard radeon 3000 chipset.  8 gigs of ram, phenom 2.  Probably the most advanced thing i am getting is a sold state drive22:38
dr_williskkrauss:  i avoid anything y ati22:38
dr_willisby ati.22:38
kkrausseven that is a little old as it is the samsung 830 model which has been out for a while22:38
anubis_ati isnt so bad22:38
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kkraussyah i get mixed opinions on that22:38
dr_willisanubis_:  when they dont work they are.22:38
anubis_haha true22:39
kkrauss3000 is old chipset it shouldnt be a problem22:39
evgen123zykotick9: I try to kill X, but proplem not resolved.22:39
zykotick9evgen123: are you still in kde?22:39
kkrausseven though fairly cheap, I am hoping this will be a speedy little system22:40
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evgen123zykotick9: no, kde killed with X. kworker it is kernel process, bot not KDE.22:40
anubis_do you plan on overclocking the phenom?22:40
zykotick9evgen123: i understand that - are you still using kde as you DE?22:41
kkraussI could but probably wont need to, the board has auto OC too if need be.  now I am a bit concerned about the 3000 chipset though as it is not showing up on the list22:41
evgen123zykotick9: I not understand, sorry. what need to do?22:42
zykotick9evgen123: can you answer me 1 question first?  are you using KDE?  YES or NO?22:42
kkraussthere appears to be a howto for the hd version though, wonder if that will work.22:43
kkraussworst case scenario Ill buy a video card22:43
capitaninsaneohHow to I copy the contents of a folder and its tree down without copying the parent?22:43
capitaninsaneohWith the cp command22:43
capitaninsaneohI keep copying the parent folder and I just want the contents of the folder and its child folders22:44
spioukihey im using dual boot win 7 ubuntu22:44
spioukineed a command to scan my win7 with avast linux22:44
spioukiplease tell me the exact command not the short version22:44
zykotick9capitaninsaneoh: what command exactly did you run?22:44
zykotick9capitaninsaneoh: if you don't what the folder name itself perhaps a trailing /* would fix it?22:45
capitaninsaneohsudo cp -r /home/user /home/user   I need to copy this users home dir22:45
spioukitell me the command to scan win7 with avast linux22:45
zykotick9capitaninsaneoh: "sudo cp -r /home/user /home"22:46
capitaninsaneohso sudo cp -r /home/user /home/user/*  ?22:46
zykotick9capitaninsaneoh: NO22:46
spioukianybody???tell me the command to scan win7 with avast linux22:46
capitaninsaneohWont that copy it over the current user?22:46
zykotick9capitaninsaneoh: you can't use * as a destination!22:47
dr_willisspiouki:  try 'man avast' ?22:47
dr_willisspiouki:  you shoud really check the avast homepage/docs.22:47
dr_willisfrom their support forums --> The command should be avastcmd (a binary file) that is installed with avast4server22:47
spioukiwhere is it?22:47
bekorhoping someone can help me banshee and rhytmbox movie player all stopped working22:47
dr_willishttp://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=23529.022:47
capitaninsaneohzykotick9, so won't that copy user1 over user122:48
dr_willishttp://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/167600-avast-command-line.html22:48
zykotick9capitaninsaneoh: NO.  your syntax is backwards.  "cp /source/* /destination/newfolder" would be a differnt then my 1st suggestion (which is better)22:49
evgen123zykotick9: YES, I use KDE.22:49
zykotick9evgen123: thanks.  i can't/won't help you.  good luck.22:49
evgen123zykotick9: I look many changes in /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe1822:50
evgen123zykotick9: I try "echo 0 > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe18" and it is resolv problem with kworker :-)22:50
evgen123zykotick9: What did I do? :-)22:51
spioukidr_willis: testall or testfull??????22:51
capitaninsaneohzykotick9, it skipped many files22:52
zykotick9capitaninsaneoh: permissions?22:52
capitaninsaneohBut I did sudo22:52
spioukidr_willis: still there?22:52
zykotick9capitaninsaneoh: can you give any other details?22:53
capitaninsaneohcp omitting directory is the error on 4 directories22:53
zykotick9capitaninsaneoh: and you used -r ?22:54
dr_willisspiouki:  i dont use the program.. everthing ive mentioned ive googled for and gotten from their man pages/docs22:55
capitaninsaneohzykotick9, Oops!  Now I got it!  Thanks22:55
capitaninsaneohYou rock!22:55
capitaninsaneoh=)22:55
zykotick9capitaninsaneoh: glad to help22:55
spioukicool thanks dr-willis22:56
capitaninsaneohI'm learning - someday I will master this stuff22:56
evgen123zykotick9: I hurt you? Sorry, I didn't understand why.22:56
SamLhaha22:58
SamLfinally it booted22:58
SamLjesus22:58
utopsWhat is difference between x-chat and x-chat gnome ?22:58
zykotick9utops: IMO xchat is the correct/real version.  and xchat-gnome is something else... not great IMO22:59
bekorbanshee rythmbox Movieplayer all crashing ubuntu 12.04 any suggestions/23:00
utopszykotick9, i guess so i can't even launch it.23:00
OerHeksbekor, /var/log/ would be a good start23:01
bekorcan you explain what you mean?23:01
OerHeksbekor see the log files why it/all crashes23:02
bhast2__can someone kick bhast2 out23:02
bekorsounds good but do not know how to do that23:03
zykotick9bhast2__: ask in #freenode for help with that.  you can somehow...23:03
SamLthanks to all who helped23:03
damhyojunghi23:04
hypertux001hey can anyone help me, I'm new to ubuntu I've just installed 12.04.1 and can't get any sound, and my video color when playing videos is blue. I've set the correct sound outpui to HDMI (im connected to my tv) and I've downloaded codecs, can anyone help?23:05
damhyojungother sound output is working?23:06
min|dvir|usHi. Can someone help me with this issue? " wine : Depends: wine1.5 but it is not going to be installed"23:06
zykotick9hypertux001: blue in online videos?  right click in flash and disable acceleration23:06
hypertux001damhyjung , none of them work. zykotick9 downloaded videos and no video output at all if i use VLC23:07
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min|dvir|usI tried installing wine1.5. It said it depends on wine1.5-i386.23:07
min|dvir|usThen I tried installing wine1.5-i386, and got https://gist.github.com/55fd4aa0343f1c8c0838.23:07
min|dvir|usI have also tried --no-install-recommends.23:08
zykotick9hypertux001: in whatever video player you use, change the VO device from XV to X11(testonly) or OPENGL or something that works23:08
damhyojunguse ubuntuone to install the software23:08
hypertux001ok thanks the blue has gone but still no sound23:09
min|dvir|usdamhyojung: assuming you're talking about the software center, the same thing happens.23:10
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sl3axi've a problem in ubuntu 12.04 with the sound scrollbar of unity (in the top panel). "Exclude sound" works , but when i scroll the bar for change the volume it doesn't work. With alsamixer yes.23:10
black_13i am trying to use grub2 load an iso image however when i try the iso9660 driver via insmod grub says its not available23:10
hypertux001and for sound outputs I have analogue sound, headphones, and 2 HDMI outputs, neither of them work i.e no sound23:12
zykotick9hypertux001: open a terminal then "alsamixer" verify everything is up and no MM (muted) listed23:13
ConejoASESINOhttp://lnk.co/KPM8223:13
ConejoASESINOopoppps23:13
FloodBot1!netsplit23:14
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit23:14
hypertux001all of my inputs show 10023:15
hypertux001*outputs23:15
utopsnice23:16
zykotick9hypertux001: right device?  F6 to change.23:16
min|dvir|usAny thoughts?23:16
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hypertux001zykotick9: no other device to switch to23:17
zykotick9hypertux001: well.. i'm outta ideas.  best of luck.23:17
hypertux001cheers mate :)23:17
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keepbrohi - umm im a new time user for ubuntu and Im not really very good with computers and was wondering if someone could help me?23:18
hypertux001anybody else got any ideas for my problem?23:19
h22turbokeepbro: ask away23:19
keepbroMy problem is that I cant find my wireless network for my laptop. I think what happened is that I connected it via ethernet when I installed the drivers for it and its now not recognising it as a wireless network because it detects everyone elses wifi but not mine23:20
keepbroand I really cant get my head round the terminal for something this hard this soon23:20
guest-LKGFydndiswrapper23:20
the-ermDoes anyone know if there's a way to make less keep the first line of text in a file at the top of the screen?   In other words make the first line of output "sticky".  I'm reading output from a database and it'd be a nice feature to have.23:21
jribthe-erm: I doubt it.  But you could just open the file twice in a split tmux or screen session I guess23:22
the-ermI don't know how to do that.23:23
the-ermI'd have to run the query twice :)23:23
hypertux001unless its a driver problem as headphones dont work etiher23:23
adieis it possible to modify how notifications are displayed?23:23
adiethey pop up in a really annoying spot :|23:23
bekorhi wondering if someone can help me using ubuntu 12.04 banshee and rythmbox crashing but i noticed they do not crash on guessed account any ideas?23:23
guest-LKGFydvlc23:24
dr_williswhen do they crash?23:24
bekorwhen ever i try to open them. i was using my laptop running banshee and bettery ran out than restarted and things did not work after that23:25
Norrinhttp://pastie.org/469275223:25
keepbroNo takers on the "help Keepbro with network problem" problem?23:26
Norrindpkg cannot remove lsb-relese23:26
Norrinkeepbro, you should explain your problem23:26
Norrindon't ask to ask23:26
keepbroMy problem is that I cant find my wireless network for my laptop. I think what happened is that I connected it via ethernet when I installed the drivers for it and its now not recognising it as a wireless network because it detects everyone elses wifi but not mine23:26
xanguaadie: nodify them how¿ with this tool i can at least put them at the top right http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/closable-movable-notifyosd.html23:26
adieI will try that, thanks23:27
sl3axGuys, anyone can help me? My control volume on the unity bar doesnt' work!23:27
Norrinkeepbro, make sure the network can be seen from some other device23:27
Norrinmight be something work with the network23:27
* Norrin never used unity23:28
keepbrowell i have my PC with windows 7 and a wifi card and it picks it up fine23:28
Norrinkeepbro, tried to turn the wifi interface on the linux off and then back on?23:28
keepbrohaha yes23:28
keepbroseveral hundered times23:29
Norrinkeepbro, what about restarting the computer?23:29
keepbrodone that too23:29
xanguasl3ax: did you remove pulseaudio¿23:29
piezodoes somebody know why "allow-hotplug" support is removed in ubuntu? (/etc/network/interfaces)23:29
piezothat really sucks, specially for headless servers23:29
Norrinkeepbro, it is able to join other networks?23:29
keepbroabsolutely23:29
keepbrojust not the one i want it too23:29
sl3axxangua: no. I've it and my sound works , also if i set it from alsamixer, but with the scrollbar of unity doesn't work.23:29
Norrinkeepbro, might have to change the wifi network in some way.  like the ssid23:30
sl3axxangua: Only "exclude audio" works on bar23:30
Norrinor the bandwidth it is running on23:30
keepbrookie dokie23:30
Norrini have a problem with dpkg.  it is stuck in a bad state.  can't remove a package because of an error23:30
Norrinhttp://pastie.org/469275223:30
RegexRonhmm23:30
Norrinso what can be done is dpkg is refusing to remove a package?23:31
piezook nobody that can answer serious questions23:31
piezopff23:31
Norrinpiezo, i haven't seen your question, but you might be right23:31
piezodoes somebody know why "allow-hotplug" support is removed in ubuntu? (/etc/network/interfaces) <-23:32
piezoits removed, no udev rules about that, etc23:32
keepbroI tried connecting to it as a hidden network but it never connected23:32
Norrinpiezo, seeing that it is linux, why don't you add them.  whatever ubuntu has done should be changable23:33
keepbroand ive tried the terminal but Im very new and its a bit greek to me - I followed a guide so I know that the drivers installed correctly23:33
piezoNorrin: this time? got it?...23:34
piezowas it replaced by netplugd?!23:35
Pikachu6708Hiya!23:35
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Gneadoes anyone recall the name of the application that I can install to install an ISO to a USB drive?23:35
piezoGnea: unetbootin ... or dd23:36
Gneaunetbootin, thank you23:36
Gneayeah, dd isn't going to work for this instance :)23:36
keepbrothanks anyway norrin23:37
Noobuntuhow do I configure xserver-org-input-synaptics driver for my touchpad?23:37
keepbrobye23:37
TeamRocket1233cBack!23:37
piezoNoobuntu: google.... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Advanced_Configuration23:38
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Norrinhow to remove a package when dpkg fails to do it?23:44
Norrinhttp://pastie.org/469275223:44
deadmundNorrin: looks like a python 2 vs python 3 error23:44
deadmundNorrin: have you messed with python / default python?23:44
Norrinnope23:44
Norrinnever had it installed until i just now tried to install it and it ended up in this state23:45
deadmundNorrin: so then this is a bug and should be listed as such but in the mean time I have a workaround idea23:45
Norrini saw that thread.  i didn't do any of that though23:45
deadmundNorrin: I have no idea what thread you're talking about.  You installed python just now?23:45
mininessieis there a minecraft launcher to launch minecraft without paying for the launcher in the software center23:45
Norrinyeah23:45
deadmundNorrin: Because python is installed by default..23:45
deadmundNorrin: can you tell me the output of ls -l /usr/bin/python  ??23:46
Norrinit was doing soemthing with python as a dependency23:46
Norrinwow23:46
Norrinlrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2012-07-20 00:24 /usr/bin/python -> /usr/local/bin/python323:46
Norrini have no memory of ever using python on this server23:46
deadmundNorrin: The problem is that python 3 is your default (which is weird).  I told you, python is installed by default.  What is confusing you about that.23:47
Norrinbut python3 is installed by default?23:47
deadmundNorrin: no (that is what is strange)23:47
Norrinthat's my point23:47
deadmundNorrin: ahh, I agree. It is strange :P23:47
deadmundNorrin: Do you know how to fix it?23:48
mininessieis there a minecraft launcher to launch minecraft without paying for the launcher in the software center23:48
Norrinno, because i don't have 2.6 installed23:48
Norrin2.x*23:48
deadmundNorrin: sudo apt-get install python2   (should grab some python 2.x)  Are you familiar with python?23:48
Norrindon't know the lang, if that's what you mean23:48
deadmundNorrin: ok.  Yeah, I recognized the syntax change.  Otherwise this would have been a mystery to me!  Anyway, did you install python 2.x  ?23:49
deadmundNorrin: I 1/2 expect it to freak out.  Since it wanted 3.x for some reason.23:50
Norringot 2.6 installed.  changing the symlink now23:50
deadmundNorrin: Are you having to change the symlink manually?  (doubly strange)23:51
Norrini'm now thinking i must have compiled python3, installed, and put that symlink in place23:51
Norrinjust can't remember why23:51
Norrinhmm.  it was for znc23:52
mininessieis there a minecraft launcher to launch minecraft without paying for the launcher in the software center23:52
deadmundNorrin: ha.  I'm guessing it would have changed the symlink if you had installed python 2.x and then removed 3.x23:52
deadmundNorrin: what is znc ?23:52
Norrina irc bouncer23:52
Norrin2.x was already installed before today23:52
Norrin3.x is installed from source23:52
phamnam???23:53
Norrinmaybe i can reconfigure 2.6-minimal & it'll fix it23:53
deadmundNorrin: Now try to purge that package.23:53
deadmundNorrin: if you manually changed the link that it'll make no diff.23:53
deadmundphamnam: are you confused about something??23:53
mininessieis there a minecraft launcher to launch minecraft without paying for the launcher in the software center23:56
magicalChickenmininessie: just execute the .jar23:56
delinquentmeHey all .. quick question .. Am I being paranoid if I'm worried about a keylogger .. being installed on a 12.04 instance running in a VM?  Or is most linux software inherently devoid of this kind of chance?23:57
mininessiemagicalChicken: how would i do that23:57
deadmunddelinquentme: Well, what evidence do you have of a keylogger?23:57
deadmunddelinquentme: (it is very unlikely to being with)23:57
Norrinfix it, deadmund23:57
Norrinfixed*23:58
kerunai am trying to run pianobar. at login i get error: newtwork error: TLS read faild. I have googled but not come up with much. just wondered if any of that means anything to someone. thx23:58
magicalChickenmininessie: you should be able to just right click on the jar and there should be a "Run with java 6" or "Run with java 7" option or something like that23:58
delinquentmedeadmund, I dont have any .. but I think its possible23:58
Norrinby changing the sym to piont to 2.6 and not 3.x23:58
magicalChickenmininessie: or use java -jar from the command line23:58
Norrindeadmund, thanks!23:58
deadmundNorrin: awesome :)23:58
delinquentmeAlso I have no idea how to scan something like ubuntu for a keylogger23:58
deadmunddelinquentme: Did you install any software from places other than repos?23:58
delinquentmedeadmund, nope23:58
delinquentmebut someone else built the VM23:58
deadmunddelinquentme: Then it is EXTREMELY unlikely23:59
deadmunddelinquentme: I guess that person might have tampered with your VM23:59

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