[00:00] <dr_willis> Ubuntu Stickers   http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=718
[00:00] <trism> lunaphyte: but it is in the package gnome-themes-standard if you ever were looking for it
[00:00] <Meris> Oerheks, stickers might look cool, but they tend to come off and leave a nasty sticky residue.
[00:00] <Jordan_U> Troy^: That works as a test too :)
[00:00] <lunaphyte> ah, i see.  you meant if i wanted to use the adwaita theme.
[00:00] <trism> indeed
[00:00] <dr_willis> Meris:  i got some for my keyboard keys - they havent came off yet. :) so it depends on how well they are made.
[00:01] <lunaphyte> trism: understood.  i wonder how it got switched form ambiance to adwaita
[00:01] <lunaphyte> *from
[00:01] <Troy^> Jordan_U: like on average the read speeds are 16MB/s from the external which is more acceptable then 1.2M/s
[00:02] <scanman> i am using ssh to use vlc. when i export=DISPLAY=:0 the video is on my laptop, not the tv connected to it. is there a command to list displays so i can export to the tv :#?    ?? thx.
[00:02] <Meris> dr_willis, true. Well, I don't care about pictures on keys. I use a Mac Keyboard because of the fantastic keys, not for the looks.
[00:03] <dr_willis> scanman:  using twinview? or some other way to get a desktop across both monitors?
[00:03] <Meris> dr_willis, those stickers look great on a convention to show that there are alternatives to Windows, but for the rest?..Hmm
[00:06] <13WABIZXH> Hi guys I get a BUG: Bad page state in process in the kernel occasionally, but it doesn't actually do anything like crash or quit a program.  Is this error bad?
[00:07] <scanman> dr_willis: right now they are individual, i have to drag screens across, trying to use cli only. long reply, yes twinview
[00:09] <pinebei> hi. does anyone know how to move icons around on panel --specifically the clock.
[00:11] <jesse123> man pages are giving me IO errors. time to reboot liveCD?
[00:11] <Meris> jesse123, if you are using a LiveCD, not all manpages you are trying to use may actually be installed.
[00:12] <dr_willis> scanman:  with twinview i Think you can use a  number like display=:0.1      but i cant rember where i even learned abut that.
[00:12] <dr_willis> scanman:  or you could use a tool like devilspie or some of the ccsm setting/plugins to force specific apps to specific window/positions
[00:13] <scanman> dr_willis: lemme try that.1 business
[00:17] <scanman> dr_willis: ran the sam vlc command as always, output is correct. not sure why but will enjoy until it fails. thx for the info tho, i will look into next time.
[00:20] <xraphael> :)
[00:25] <kkrauss> Hey guys, I am running 12.04 with firefox 15.   This might be outside the realm of the channel,and if so I apologize in advance.  My question is: I have installed two different pdf addons into firefox yet every time I go to view a pdf online, it says missing plugin and no suitable plugin found?
[00:27] <alpre> you need more info
[00:27] <kkrauss> like?
[00:27] <alpre> what addons
[00:28] <kkrauss> pdf viewer....
[00:28] <kkrauss> pdf download....
[00:28] <alpre> kkrauss: I just installed epdfview, and firefox opens pdfs in epdfview. Isn't that possible for you?
[00:29] <alpre> no addons
[00:29] <alpre> no acrobat either though
[00:29] <kkrauss> im going to try google docs viewer and see if that works
[00:30] <crypticmofo> hi all im running ubuntu in virtualbox .. i don't like the new look as the icons are on teh left side .. looks like a cruch
[00:30] <crypticmofo> how do i get rid of them ?
[00:30] <kkrauss> so that didn't work either
[00:30] <kkrauss> apparently I am not meant to view this pdf doc
[00:31] <Smackbook1> your pdf might be corrupted
[00:31] <Smackbook1> ive never had a problem with any pdf file
[00:31] <Smackbook1> using any method
[00:31] <kkrauss> ive tried it on a couple of pdfs
[00:32] <Smackbook1> oh hmm
[00:32] <Smackbook1> but if google docs cant open it, it cant be ubuntus fault
[00:32] <beachbum_Bob> kkrauss   just use your default pdf reader that comes with 12.04
[00:32] <crypticmofo> hi all im running ubuntu in virtualbox .. i don't like the new look as the icons are on teh left side .. looks like a cruch
[00:32] <crypticmofo> ?
[00:32] <wilee-nilee> crypticmofo, So what do you want us to do?
[00:33] <kkrauss> basically, I am trying to look at lecture slides from last weeks classes.  It is web based through a craphole interactive web program called Blackboard.
[00:33] <beachbum_Bob> oh
[00:33] <Smackbook1> crypticmofo: thats the new UI crap since last year, you need to choose google classic
[00:33] <jrib> "google" classic -_-
[00:33] <Smackbook1> i mean ubuntu classic
[00:33] <kkrauss> on any of my other systems, including my ubuntu and debian systems on campus, whenever I click on the link to the pdf it opens right up.  On my home ubuntu system it says missing plugin
[00:33] <Smackbook1> lol
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> kkrauss, Blackboard is problematic I have had to use it.
[00:33] <Smackbook1> gnome classic!
[00:34] <Troy^> hmm i'm trying to make a ext4 on my extrnal drive and it is giving me /dev/sdd is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[00:34] <kkrauss> wilee-nilee, blackboard is crap and it amazes me so many uni's use it, however I doubt that is the issue in this case.
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> Troy^, Is it unmounted?
[00:34] <jrib> kkrauss: well is it flash or java?  Install the relevant plug-in
[00:34] <Troy^> wilee-nilee: trying to figure out how to unmount it lol
[00:34] <crypticmofo> Smackbook1 hwo do i do this ?
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> Troy^, Try using gparted, it is a right click.
[00:34] <kkrauss> ahh
[00:35] <Troy^> wilee-nilee: this is all headless
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> ah
[00:35] <kkrauss> being as this is a java class
[00:35] <kkrauss> I am assuming it is java
[00:35] <Smackbook1> crypticmofo: i dont know the steps off the top of my head,  basically you need to install some packages, and then restart and at the login screen when you boot up there is an option to choose your window manager
[00:35] <kkrauss> so its not a pdf reader I need but a java console?
[00:36] <Smackbook1> Smackbook1: youll have to google the specific details
[00:36] <Smackbook1> but thats the process
[00:37] <Smackbook1> or format and install xubuntu, which has the same look as gnome 2
[00:37] <wilee-nilee> kkrauss, If these are multiple pdf's I had to go to the larger menu in the way it was set up at my uni to open ech one, if in a list the first would open but not the next for some reason, just suggeting.
[00:37] <kkrauss> im not sure what is going on with this thing
[00:37] <kkrauss> google docs says it doesnt recognize the file type and doesn't open it properly either
[00:37] <kkrauss> maybe the teacher did someth ign wrong, Ill ask him next sweek
[00:38] <jrib> kkrauss: you said it was web-based
[00:38] <Smackbook1> kkrauss: that definatly sounds like the best plan ;)
[00:38] <kkrauss> yes, I did say it was web based
[00:39] <kkrauss> everytime I click on it it says msising plugin then when I try to find the right one firefox it cannot find one
[00:39] <n1ckn4me09876543> New feature in Ubuntu is the ability to have a "full disk encryption" not just home directory anymore.  My question is, if I encrypt the whole drive, will I still be able to do multi-boot ? like 2-3 O.S. with grub boot loader?
[00:40] <Areckx> HOW COME my terminal says "Got Ice?" on the bottom right????
[00:40] <Areckx> WHAT THE *&(YE&(YF IS THIS!?~!?~?
[00:40] <kkrauss> I think i'm moving onto japanese!
[00:40] <Troy^> argg
[00:40] <Areckx> AM I HACKED~!?!~?~?
[00:40] <Troy^> not letting me create the ext4 on my ext
[00:41] <Areckx> WHAT IS THIS ICE BULL CRAP
[00:41] <Areckx> OH nvm
[00:41] <Areckx> it's my desktop background lmao
[00:41] <Meris> Areckx, let's keep this a family friendly channel, now shall we?
[00:42] <Troy^> i can't seem to get my external usb drive unmounted in order to format
[00:43] <dr_willis> Troy^:  make sure all apps using it are closed.   perhaps even logout?
[00:43] <crypticmofo> hi all
[00:43] <Troy^> dr_willis: just killed them all
[00:43] <dr_willis> Troy^:  make sure no terminals are cd'd into the mount point
[00:43] <n1ckn4me09876543> so does anybody know? about my question with  full HDD encryption
[00:43] <Troy^> fizz@server:/$ sudo umount -l /dev/sdd
[00:43] <Troy^> umount: /dev/sdd: not mounted
[00:44] <dr_willis> n1ckn4me09876543:  i think you need to have grub's /boot/ on a unencrypted partition. I dont find encryption that needed.. unless its on a laptop you may loose.
[00:44] <Troy^> sudo mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdd /dev/sdd is apparently in use by the system; will not make a filesystem here!
[00:44] <dr_willis> Troy^:  sure its not sdd1 ?
[00:44] <Meris> Troy^, try sudo lsof | /dev/sdd
[00:45] <Meris> Troy^, try sudo lsof | grep '/dev/sdd '
[00:45] <Meris> Sorry about that omission
[00:45] <Troy^> fizz@server:/$ sudo lsof | /dev/sdd
[00:45] <Troy^> -bash: /dev/sdd: Permission denied
[00:45] <Meris> Troy^,  I'm not surprised :-), try my second line...
[00:46] <Troy^> Meris: mount.ntf  1340       root    3u      BLK       8,49 0x2ba9f2fe000       9314 /dev/sdd1
[00:46] <dr_willis> sdd1 is mount4ed.. not see?
[00:46] <dr_willis> sdd.
[00:46] <Troy^> it wont let me unmount sdd1
[00:47] <dr_willis> id just reboot and set it back to sane defaults... who know what all you have done to the system ;)
[00:47] <Areckx> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193765/
[00:47] <Areckx> how do I fix this??
[00:47] <Troy^> fizz@server:/$ sudo umount /dev/sdd1 umount: /dev/sdd1: not mounted
[00:47] <dr_willis> Areckx:  you could at least give a summary of it.
[00:47] <Meris> Troy^, nice, now try the lsof line again: Troy^, try sudo lsof | grep '/dev/sdd '
[00:47] <dr_willis> Areckx:  just pasteing a url - tends to not get a lot of people to look at it just to see if they even know IF they can help
[00:48] <Areckx> dr_willis::  it is a script which converts a youtube video using youtube-dl and converts a selection to a gif
[00:48] <Troy^> Areckx: that is more for #bash
[00:48] <Areckx> TREllis::  they aren't helping...
[00:48] <Areckx> ittroy
[00:48] <Meris> Troy^, Does it still return any processes using /dev/sdd?
[00:48] <Areckx> Troy^::
[00:48] <Areckx> it is a problem with mplayer
[00:48] <Areckx> #mplayer is not helping at all
[00:48] <Areckx> and this is REALLY piissing me off
[00:48] <Troy^> Meris: samething mount.ntf  1340       root    3u      BLK       8,49 0x2ba9f2fe000       9314 /dev/sdd1
[00:48] <crypticmofo> anyone running virtualbox and ubuntu in it ?
[00:49] <Areckx> SO I am asking here too
[00:49] <i7c> crypticmofo: i did some time, what's the problem
[00:49] <Meris> Troy^, please pastebin the output of sudo mount
[00:49] <Areckx> here is the script :: http://pastebin.com/A9fgC5Rr
[00:50] <Areckx> can anyone try to see if they're getting the same errors?
[00:50] <Areckx> I am using Ubuntu 10.04
[00:50] <Troy^> Meris: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193771/
[00:50] <cowsquad> hey guys. Is there any way to add like an application menu on ubuntu 12.04 unity?
[00:50] <Troy^> Meris: /dev/sdd is an external i am unaware if you saw when i explained that as well it is mounted with usbmount
[00:51] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  theres several indicator-applets and i recall an app to put a classic gnome2 type menu at the top of the UNITY left side panel
[00:51] <alpre> Troy^: try the manual of usbmount, I think there is locking mentioned there
[00:51] <alpre> Troy^: if not usbmount, then pmount
[00:52] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  theres a list of indicator-applets at askubuntu.com  and i recall the otehr  i found by searching for 'classic gnome menu unity' at webupd8 or omgubuntu, or askubuntu.com
[00:52] <WeThePeople> hi
[00:52] <cowsquad> dr_willis thank you
[00:52] <dr_willis> http://www.howtogeek.com/105997/how-to-install-the-classic-gnome-menu-in-unity-in-ubuntu-11.10/
[00:52] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  theres like 5 differnt tools/ways
[00:53] <dr_willis> !find classicmenu-indicator
[00:53] <Troy^> alpre: :S
[00:53] <dr_willis> thats the sort of thing they should have put in by default just to save grief and learning of unity ;)
[00:53] <Troy^> alpre: i don't see how pmount would help
[00:54] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  i always have to rember to sort by votes at askubuntu.com   http://askubuntu.com/questions/30334/what-application-indicators-are-available
[00:55] <cowsquad> dr_willis I am trying your link right now.
[00:55] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  i always check that listing to see what new neat things come out. ;)
[00:56] <cowsquad> dr_willis are you on ubuntu 12.04
[00:56] <Psi-Jack> Everytime I do something with Thunderbird, or receive/send IM's with Pidgin, I keep getting this ANNOYING window prompting: Authentication is required to change user data; An application is attempting to perform an action that requires privileges. Authentication as one of the users below is required to perform this action. (Selections are, my name, and Admin User, which is my UID=1000 user)
[00:57] <Psi-Jack> Really starting to get frustrating.
[00:58] <Meris> Troy^, Sorry, you might try *re*mounting the /dev/sdd1 in a normal mode, that *might* disengage the lock
[00:58] <Troy^> Meris: how do i do that?
[00:59] <emx> i want to automount a usb stick in the file browser. when i click on the icon i get the message that i am not authorised. the user is in the group disk. what is missing?
[00:59] <Psi-Jack> emx: You need to be in the plugdev group
[00:59] <dr_willis> !info cardapio
[01:00] <emx> Psi-Jack, the user is also in the plugdev group
[01:00] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  on 12.10 right now..  cardapio is an app that lets you have a 'menu' on a button on the left side panel..
[01:00] <dr_willis> http://reformedmusings.wordpress.com/2011/11/07/very-nice-gnome-menu-in-ubunty-oneiric-11-10-unity-panel/
[01:00] <Meris> Troy^,  mount -o remount [the desired options] . Just be sure that you use the type ntfs-3g as mount-type
[01:01] <F4810> ola alguem fala portugues?
[01:01] <cowsquad> dr_willis how did you upgraded to quantun quetzal?
[01:01] <Meris> !pt | F4810
[01:01] <aaron_np> Hi is this the right place to ask a noob question?
[01:02] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  i dident.. i always do clean installs.
[01:02] <cowsquad> i follow instructions on ubuntuforums, but i did not get the upgrade option on Update Manager
[01:02] <dr_willis> https://launchpad.net/cardapio   is a tool for a gnome-like menu in the left side panel
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, you know its in develoment still?
[01:02] <Troy^> Meris: sudo mount -o remount ntfs-3g /dev/sdd1
[01:03] <cowsquad> dr_willis oh, so you installed it clean. Oh yeah is in beta 1. How is it working for you
[01:03] <Meris> Troy^, not complete, the mount point is missing.
[01:03] <Troy^> ok it took it
[01:03] <Troy^> but hasn't changed anything
[01:04] <dr_willis> cowsquad:  no real issues.  has good days and bad. ;)
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, you probably need to go to softwrae sorces and set it as any release, to see the 12.10.
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> software sources*
[01:04] <Meris> Troy^,  that is logical, because the mount point is still the same...
[01:04] <nate__> curious why does startx -- :1,2,3,...etc work at the terminal ctrl+alt+f1 but not in the virtual terminals under gnome . Is there away to startx in those terminals ?
[01:05] <Meris> Troy^, does the mounted /dev/sdd1 show up on sudo mount ?
[01:05] <nate__>  anybody know?
[01:05] <cowsquad> wilee-nilee, I had, but i keep checking and it wont show me the upgrade. lAME
[01:05] <Troy^> Meris: nope
[01:05] <aaron_np> what is a good channel for noob questions?
[01:05] <dr_willis> nate__:  i seem to recall starting them from a X session befor.. but been years since ive even needed to have several X sessions going
[01:06] <dr_willis> !info xnest
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, You are in the right place if it is Ubuntu.
[01:06] <Meris> aaron_np, no objections against "noob" questions, as long as you searched a bit around before coming to this channel for help. Just ask your question
[01:06] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee: ok thnks
[01:06] <dr_willis> nate__:  i seem to recall some way to start a new X session  that would run the login manager.. had to start it as root some how.. (been years since i did it)
[01:07] <Meris> Troy^, sorry, tried everything, I'm out of options. Very strange that the drive doesn't show up in the mount list.
[01:07] <nate__> how did you do this becuase i am curious why startx -- :1 doesn't
[01:07] <WeThePeople> would 12.04 work in VM
[01:07] <nate__> in a virtual terminal
[01:07] <dr_willis> nate__:  i dont recall.. its been at least 2+ years since i last did it.
[01:08] <Meris> nate__, startx can only be called with a parameter that assigns a console as new X-session.
[01:08] <dr_willis> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[01:08] <Meris> nate__, to be exact, it is the display parameter
[01:08] <dr_willis> startx is a script that does a lot of things then launches the X server. ;)
[01:08] <nate__> i think i must be a file lock or something that is not in the console
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> WeThePeople, Should.
[01:09] <dr_willis> You cant even do a 'startx --help' from a xterm it seems. ;)
[01:10] <dr_willis> I seem to recall ages ago GDM or Gnome or some menus had a item to spawn a new X session.
[01:10] <aaron_np> Ok noob Q: My system currently has ubuntu 12.04 64bits and I want to install ubuntu on a new hd but the machine doesn't have cd/dvd and wont boot into usb drive for some reason, is there a way I can install ubuntu from on a separete hdd from ubuntu?
[01:10] <aaron_np> any help is appreciated
[01:10] <dr_willis> aaron_np:  you can clone the current install to a 2nd hard drive  and move the HD over.. or set up a netboot feature to install over the network.
[01:10] <nate__> sorry my mistake it works with :2 but not :1 where it works in console werid but ok
[01:10] <Meris> nate__, that is not the problem. The problem is that an  x-terminal already has the DISPLAY variable defined. you can export the new DISPLAY variable and *then* call startx, that should work, just keep in mind that startx without parameters only starts bare X-windows.
[01:10] <gabrieluk> hi, how can change the browser associated with html files?
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, Are you familiar with the boot from outside the bios for the usb, if it booots a usb?
[01:11] <nate__> no , it works when I sudo startx -- :2
[01:11] <dr_willis> nate__:  i wonder if theres not some X server/lock crashed and keeping :1  occupied.
[01:11] <aaron_np> dr_willis: I cant clone as I have a smaller hdd and I also want to start from scratch
[01:11] <dr_willis> since the initial desktop is :0
[01:12] <dr_willis> aaron_np:  netboot/netinstalls are handy
[01:12] <dr_willis> night all.
[01:12] <Meris> nate__, nice, what console did it get assigned to? Console 8 ?
[01:12] <nate__> yes
[01:12] <nate__> 8
[01:13] <Meris> nate__, I'm curious, why do you need a a second X-session?
[01:13] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee: for some reason it wont letme boot from usb, I have tried all usb boot options but no luck
[01:13] <Troy^> Meris: anything to do with usbmount?
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, Does all options include the one I mention?
[01:14] <Meris> Troy^, I'm not really familiar with usbmount, so I'm not sure how I can help you. Sorry, about that.
[01:14] <aaron_np> I've never tried the net boot/net install
[01:14] <nate__> makes it easier in some cases to have a fresh desktop, gives you the illusion of to users. Plus some times it is better then multiple workstations ... as well as you can connect remotely to it
[01:14] <gabrieluk> is it good to install 'ubuntu tweak'?
[01:15] <gabrieluk> is this the correct ppa? ppa:ubuntu-tweak-testing/ppa
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> gabrieluk, That is the test use the stable.
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> https://launchpad.net/~tualatrix/+archive/ppa
[01:16] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, I get a loot of boot uptions on the bios (F12 at boot for my computer) but none seems to accept the usb tumbdrive
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, It may just be a bad load or loader app that is in your way or a bad ISO, have you done a md5sum check
[01:18] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, dr_willis, so no options to install from an existing ubuntu hdd then?
, thanks
[01:18] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, the posibilty is there, but I doubt that is really needed, besides isn't the HD a usb?
[01:18] <Meris> nate__, I wonder, could you run two X on two separate users that way? I'd like to start another session in English next to my default Dutch one. Would that be possible?
[01:19] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, I thought about it but then i booted my lapttop with it and boots poerfectly
[01:19] <Troy^> Meris: usbmount be also cause of bottleneck i mean usb drives can be handed mounted and entered into fstab right? therefore if i just remove usbmount?
[01:20] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, the hdd is a sata drive
[01:20] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, You mean you booted your laptop with it plugged in or the HD has a OS that it will boot with, if so what is the OS?
[01:21] <Meris> Troy^, as said before, I'm not familar with usbmount. I am an eager learner however and I'd love to see how you can get out of this mess. In fact I don't even have usbmount installed on my system
[01:21] <WeThePeople> after support for 10.04 has ended for desktop will it be worth to keep around
[01:21] <WeThePeople> to keep using what are the cons
[01:21] <Troy^> Meris: correct it is third party install.. I just removed and did a reboot we will see when it comes back up
[01:22] <cowsquad> how do I remove ppa from ubuntu?
[01:22] <WeThePeople> cowsquad, use synaptic
[01:22] <Meris> Troy^, Good luck in your endeavours.
[01:22] <cowsquad> WethePeople I am, but I cant figure out
[01:23] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, my laptop has dual boot win7/ubuntu but What I mentiuoned is that itried to boot using the same usb drive and boots just fine, the problem is on my desktop who refuses to boot from the usb thus the need to use my existing ubuntu dririve to install on the other hdd
[01:23] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, IF you want all of it removed read carefully. http://bigbrovar.aoizora.org/index.php/2010/01/10/how-to-safely-remove-ppa-repository-from-ubuntu/
[01:23] <theixle> Does anyone know how to fix asus 1215N atheros nic problems? I've tried installing compat-wireless already.
[01:23] <cowsquad> thanks wilee-nilee
[01:24] <Troy^> Meris: there working now it is formating
[01:24] <wilee-nilee> aaron_np, Honestly I think your usb will work, but you do not and want to try a even harder may boot idea, I can't really help there sorry.
[01:25] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, I guess I'll need to rtfm for the netboot
[01:25] <Guest22959>  I am trying to install R, it is in tarball form I used the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo unsuccessfully. I run into errors when I try to create a common directory
[01:25] <WeThePeople> theixle, see #ubuntu-server
[01:26] <Troy^> Meris: success lol
[01:26] <wilee-nilee> Guest22959, Do not ask on multiple channels.
[01:26] <Meris> Troy^, nice... :-) It was an interesting analysis though.
[01:26] <Nodd> are there any extensions that give more control, when copying files in nautilus? like pausing certain files in a queue?
[01:26] <theixle> wethepeople: Server huh? I'm running a desktop (netbook) machine fwiw.
[01:26] <TJ-> aaron_np: There's a way - unusual - but uses standard installer. On Windows create a virtual machine and map the boot drive into it, then boot the VM from an Ubuntu LiveCD ISO image (attached to the VM's CD-ROM device). If you use Windows Disk Management to first shrink the Windows partitions to leave around 10GB free space on the boot drive, you can install into that using Ubuntu without Ubuntu needing to touch the Windows partitions that are currently in use.
[01:26] <WeThePeople> ahh
[01:26] <jrib> Guest22959: R is in the repositories.  Use APT
[01:27] <Meris> Guest22959, please change your nick to something meaningful, it is bothersome for the autocompletion, if someone wants to chat with you.
[01:27] <aaron_np> wilee-nilee, I thought so too however it is not :/
[01:28] <Troy^> Meris: now i can't seem to get the UUID of the drive and add it to my fstab
[01:28] <Guest22959> jrib: could you elaborate on your response
[01:28] <trter10> hey guys if i increase my install size with wubi to 30 gbs how much would i have to use (not used by OS)?
[01:29] <jrib> Guest22959: are you familiar with how to install software in ubuntu using Software Manager?
[01:29] <Guest22959> Jrib: No I am not, but if you could point me to a guide I would appreciate it greatly
[01:29] <Troy^> fdisk -l Disk Disk identifier: 0x00000000 /dev/sdd doesn't contain a valid partition table
[01:30] <jrib> !software | Guest22959
[01:30] <TJ-> aaron_np: For your USB not-found-by-BIOS issue, there's a couple of things you might check (if you haven't already). 1. BIOS enabling USB devices (usually in the chipset and related settings areas), and 2. Some ports aren't (often the front ports) aren't activated by the BIOS on some motherboards... have you tried the USB in the rear motherboard USB ports when booting?
[01:30] <Meris> Troy^, because it's an USB-drive, you cannot detect the drive straight away, you'll need to identify the type of (S)ATA chipset on your USB drive in order to get to the details. You can usually find the type from the lsusb output.
[01:30] <jrib> Guest22959: you probably want the r-base or r-recommended packages
[01:31] <Troy^> Meris the does not have a valid partition table scares me
[01:31] <adamjm> \wc
[01:31] <Guest22959> Jrib and ubottu thank you so much I really appreciate it
[01:31] <gabrieluk> I have a sony vaio laptop vgn-ns30e and lucid 10.04 desktop installed. i'm having a hard time with alsa audio. it was blowing my ears, very bad quality sound. i found the solution of creating a .asoundrc file and inserting defaults.pcm.rate_converter "samplerate_best" pcm.!default {type plug slave.pcm {type dmixipc_key 1024slave {pcm "hw:0,0"rate 48000}}}. the sound is a BIT better, not a lot, but now alsa volume controls doesn't work, and so
[01:31] <gabrieluk> me apps(google chrome) don't play sound from youtube. any better solution?]
[01:32] <DG_> guys! oh noez!
[01:33] <whallz> hi, i need help, i dist-upgraded to 12.04.1, and now i have continuous crashes, for eg, i did a 'tilda & exit' in a gnome terminal and everything froze
[01:33] <whallz> i installed gnome3
[01:33] <Meris> Troy^, in that case the usbmount program might have mucked about in the partition table. First of all, stay calm and try to get any data you *can* get on the present partitioning. Don't rush itl, especially not if the other partitions contain important data
[01:33] <whallz> also, i'd like to completely remove compiz, how do i do that?
[01:35] <Troy^> Meris: everything on the drive has been backed up
[01:35] <Meris> whallz, you can remove Compiz with sudo apt-get remove Compiz, but a lot of things depend on Compiz. Unity3D for instance...
[01:35] <Meris> whallz, you can remove Compiz with sudo apt-get remove compiz, but a lot of things depend on Compiz. Unity3D for instance...
[01:35] <gabrieluk> any ideas on my issue with sound?
[01:35] <Meris> whallz, ^Slight typo there, sorry
[01:36] <whallz> Meris: ty
[01:36] <TJ-> gabrieluk: The only thing I can find related is this, if you read down it talks about losing all ALSA in/out ... and a comment says the issue was fixed using the same method on the same model as you have. http://community.linuxmint.com/tutorial/view/221
[01:36] <shadedpixel> Are there any good plug n' play USB wifi adapters that work well with ubuntu (or just linux in general) and without ndiswrapper?
[01:36] <whallz> any ideas on why the crashes? did the kernel upgrade broke something??
[01:36] <xangua> !hardware | shadedpixel
[01:37] <Meris> Troy^, in that case you can make a new partition table in for example gparted, or just parted (for the console version)
[01:37] <shadedpixel> ubottu, ive already looked there. There is a big list but Id like to know what works best from a consumer perspective
[01:38] <Meris> Troy^, (g)parted should take care of the hassles of unmounting your USB drive and give you an easy access to it so you can repartition it.
[01:38] <shadedpixel> Are there any good plug n' play USB wifi adapters that work well with ubuntu (or just linux in general) and without ndiswrapper?
[01:39] <Meris> shadepixel. Umm, ubottu is a bot, not a person ;-) It *is* a very helpful and advanced bot, but still a bot...
[01:39] <shadedpixel> Meris, i know that :D
[01:40] <Meris> shadedpixel, wel, just in case  >Grin<
[01:40] <gabrieluk> TJ-, should i still use .asoundrc? that issue was with the mic, i don't have issues with, i have issues with a horrible sound quality. the thing about alsa not having controls working is minor, the worst is the quality
[01:40] <Meris> shadedpixel, wel => well
[01:40] <TJ-> Meris: Troy^  usbmount won't damage anything; it is an auto-mounter utilising udev for servers and non-Gnome systems. I use it on a server.
[01:41] <Meris> TJ-, another thing learned, thanks :-)
[01:42] <Meris> TJ-, Troy^ had quite some trouble getting it to umount a drive. Maybe you have some more advice for him/ her.
[01:42] <zymaster> Hey does anyone know an alternative to iDisplay for Linux? I want to use my hp touchpad running cyanogenmod ice cream sandwich as a second monitor for my ubuntu laptop.
[01:42] <xangua> shadedpixel: someone mentioned this page some weeks ago https://www.thinkpenguin.com/
[01:42] <TJ-> GabrieleV: I was looking at the 2nd part of that article, where it talks about sound being lost totally and points to some packages that can help fix issues. That article is old so the referenced PPA and packages may no longer be available, but as you're still on 10.04 that's probably the only place to find fixed drivers. It's worth testing your PC with a 12.04 LiveCD see if the sound works for the current LTS
[01:43] <iceroot> zymaster: synergie can maybe do that
[01:43] <zymaster> iceroot: Ok cool how to use?
[01:44] <iceroot> zymaster: first have a look at google if that is what you need (luckily) i dont know that apple-stuff you mentioned
[01:44] <Troy^> TJ-: is there no other way to mount an ext hd? in ubuntu server? other then usbmount?
[01:44] <iceroot> Troy^: the normal mount command
[01:44] <Troy^> is there a way to get a uuid iceroot to put it in fstab
[01:44] <iceroot> Troy^: or are you talking about automount?
[01:44] <iceroot> Troy^: sudo blkid
[01:45] <Troy^> iceroot: does not work for external
[01:45] <iceroot> Troy^: of course its working for externals
[01:45] <iceroot> Troy^: when you connect it it will listed as /dev/sdX and every /dev/sdX will be shown by blkid
[01:46] <iceroot> Troy^: tested it 10 seconds ago with my sc card
[01:46] <TJ-> Meris: Troy^ When you install usbmount it adds a rule to udev to match certain types of devices (/lib/udev/rules.d/usbmount.rules) which fires the script "/etc/usbmount/mount.d/00_create_model_symlink" and (on unmount) "/etc/usbmount/umount.d/00_remove_model_symlink". Configuration is in "/etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf".  It mounts devices to /media/usb{0-7} if the file-systems in the partitions match those in its config FILESYSTEMS variable.
[01:47] <Troy^> TJ-: i removed usbmount
[01:47] <zymaster> iceroot: I basically hacked android on to my hp touchpad running web os. I hate apple
[01:47] <iceroot> zymaster: sounds good
[01:47] <DG_> WHO LIKES APPLE?
[01:47] <iceroot> zymaster: both
[01:47] <DG_> woah sorry
[01:47] <DG_> :O
[01:47] <FloodBot1> DG_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:47] <DG_> who likes apple anyways
[01:48] <iceroot> DG_: this channel is about free and open source and apple has nothing to do with freedom, so please use #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:48] <zymaster> DG_: No one on this channel could possibly like apple
[01:48] <Meris> DG, I like some Apple products, like my MacBook from 2007 and my Apple aluminum keyboard I am typing on right now. I don't like the *company* Apple has become though.
[01:49] <DG_> i only like their keyboard
[01:49] <zymaster> Meris: As long as you are running ubuntu on that MacBook I will not kill you. Lol jk
[01:49] <DG_> so thin and sexy
[01:49] <DG_> :P
[01:49] <TJ-> Troy^: iceroot Troy^ Actually, blkid won't return anything for raw device files (/dev/sda); only for file-systems/LVM/MD/RAID (/dev/sda1)
[01:49] <DG_> same zymaster
[01:49] <Meris> DG, but this is not the channel to discuss that, use #ubuntu-ot for that
[01:50] <bazhang> !ot | DG_
[01:50] <iceroot> TJ-: so there is no partition on that drive?
[01:50] <Meris> zymaster, actually I'm not running Ubuntu on that MacBook, due to problems with tripleboot. But again, this topic is not for this channel
[01:50] <DG_> ok well i need support anyways
[01:50] <DG_> i installed ubuntu
[01:50] <iceroot> TJ-: sda1 is nothing else then a partition (doesnt matter if there is a filesystem)
[01:51] <bazhang> !enter | DG_
[01:51] <zymaster> Meris: I will attempt to suppress my anger. Again jk
[01:51] <gabrieluk> how can i improve audio quality from my ubuntu 10.04 machine?in windows was fine,  now i feel nausea and a wierd feeling in my ears(like my head was going to explode)
[01:51] <DG_> lol sorry its a habit, a very bad one. i installed ubuntu and windows 7 went poof :O idk how to boot back into it
[01:52] <Meris> TJ-, thanks for the explanation about usbmount. Appreciate it :-)
[01:52] <Sajan> gabrieluk, stop listening to that new fangled techno music!
[01:52] <TJ-> iceroot: blkid recognises the file-system markers. You run it against a raw device that isn't a file-system it won't return anything - there's no UUID, label, etc
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> DG_  Is this a Ubuntu install from Windows or a booted usb/cd?
[01:52] <Sajan> gabrieluk, you're going to have to be a bit more specific as to the problem.
[01:53] <gabrieluk> Sajan, is not about techno, is about the rubish sound quality comming from ubuntu.
[01:53] <iceroot> TJ-: /dev/sda6: UUID="60f19771-8987-4078-9c8c-59fd92fd07fe" TYPE="swap"
[01:53] <gabrieluk> Sajan, mre specefic? are you joking?
[01:53] <iceroot> TJ-: you know that "swap" has not filesystem?
[01:53] <DG_> i installed windows from a CD
[01:53] <DG_> oh shit i mean i installed ubuntu
[01:53] <Meris> zymaster, you are welcome to discuss this issue on #ubuntu-offtopic, in fact I'm inviting you ;-)
[01:53] <iceroot> TJ-: blkid is just reading the block device attributes definded by the partition table
[01:53] <wilee-nilee> DG_, Have you run sudo update-grub in ubuntu to see if windows is added to the grub menu?
[01:53] <iceroot> TJ-: for more informations see "man blkid"
[01:54] <DG_> yeahhh... what?
[01:54] <zymaster> Meris: No I should not try to fight ubuntu/linux anymore. It makes me no different than Apple fanboys. Lol
[01:54] <gabrieluk> Sajan, so one tell you that the music is causing nausea and unpleasant feeling on his ears and it is not enough? if i go to windows, in the same machine, i do not feel that
[01:54] <iceroot> TJ-: when sudo blkid is not shoding the uuid for your external drives there can be two reasons, you dont have partitions or the device is not detected correctly (see dmesg)
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> !who > DG_
[01:54] <Sajan> gabrieluk, not joking.  Are you listening through speakers? headset? usb? line out?...what software are you playing back from? is it everything? ...yeah, more specific please.
[01:55] <Sajan> gabrieluk, you feeling nausea is a medical issue.  Go see a doctor.  That's not a symptom anyone here can lead back to Ubuntu and help solve.
[01:55] <TJ-> iceroot:  wrong, it reads the meta-data written by the file-system creator
[01:55] <iceroot> TJ-: swap has no filesystem!!
[01:55] <iceroot> TJ-: so what file-system infos should be read there?
[01:55] <gabrieluk> Sajan, you are ridiculous mate, i know there's an issue with sound on linux, you cannot hide it
[01:55] <wan26> !who > wan26
[01:55] <DG_> wilee-nilee: i have no clue what any of that means i JUST installed ubuntu and never had any past experience i just wanted it because it was good for this oldddd computer
[01:55] <Meris> zymaster, don't worry, I was not about to tempt you to the dark side. I just wanted to explain a few things why I made these choices as a linux enthousiast.
[01:55] <bazhang> gabrieluk, so file a bug
[01:56] <bazhang> !bugs | gabrieluk
[01:56] <TJ-> iceroot: it has metadata (mkswap writes a header)
[01:56] <iceroot> TJ-: the kernel is detecting the partiton layout and will create block devices like sda1 sda2 and sdb1 and that is what blkid is reading
[01:56] <bazhang> gabrieluk, and refrain from the name calling
[01:56] <zymaster> Meris: Do what you want to do. I really don't care I was just joking around
[01:57] <Meris> zymaster, please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> DG_, YOU are using the grub bootloader that ubuntu uses right.  In order to update it it if a OS is missing you would run in the ubuntu terminal sudo update-grub.  You say Windows is gone, is it gone from the HD overwritten or just the bot menu?
[01:57] <wilee-nilee> boot*
[01:57] <scott_z> how do i determine what /dev/h?? my sd card slot is?
[01:57] <Sajan> gabrieluk, Nobody is trying to hide anything.  You have to tell us what the problem is.  If the problem is that you feel nauseated, that's a medical issue.  Nobody here can do anything to your computer to fix that.  If someone is CAUSING the nausea, you'll have to be more specific than 'rubbish sound' so we can help troubleshoot.
[01:58] <iceroot> TJ-: will have a look at it, thanks for the info
[01:58] <Shenmue> anyone dominate nmap?
[01:58] <zymaster> Meris: One of us needs to stop responding lol I don't really want to discuss this anymore but I feel the need to respond for some reason
[01:58] <bazhang> !ot | zymaster
[01:58] <Meris> zymaster, allright, I'll stop :-)
[01:58] <bazhang> Shenmue, just ask the channel
[01:58] <iceroot> TJ-: ah ok internally its using "findfs"
[01:59] <DG_> Wilee-nilee i honestly have no clue im assuming the grub bootloader is the purple screen, i still have the whole partition with windows and all the files are still there it just doesnt show in the boot menu
[01:59] <gabrieluk> Sajan, again, you are a troll and ridiculous, i don't have any medical issue or condition, if i go to windows, in the same machine(i have dual boot) i don't feel nauseas because of the sound. if you don't have nothing nice to say just shut up
[01:59] <bazhang> gabrieluk, thats enough. stop it.
[01:59] <gabrieluk> bazhang, this guy is trolling at me
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> DG_, Are you able to get to the ubuntu desktop?
[02:00] <zymaster> Hey Iam going to go back on topic, does anyone know a real way to use an android tablet as a second monitor with ubuntu. As far as I understand synergy just shares mouse and keyboard.
[02:01] <DG_> wilee-nilee i can ONLY boot into ubuntu, ubuntu recovery mode and two other weird things i think they said mem check?
[02:02] <wilee-nilee> DG_, Have you opened a terminal in Ubuntu and run this command sudo update-grub    It helps to know this and if you removed any partitions when installing Ubuntu.
[02:03] <wilee-nilee> or resized windows with the ubuntu install DG_
[02:03] <hfic> !dualboot
[02:04] <DG_> wilee-nilee i made the partition through the installer, it showed my partition with windows 7 which is 150 or so gigs and i took 25 and made it into a new parition and it installed, i have no clue how to code and all that stuf. I installed ubuntu because i liked the look and feel of it
[02:05] <DG_> actually brb ill try running that code through
[02:05] <wilee-nilee> DG_, copy and paste this command to a ubuntu terminal. The terminal is in the menu.  sudo update-grub    then hit enter put in the password it will not show and look at the terminal and see if windows shows in the grub list
[02:06] <DG_> ok thanks
[02:06] <DG_> control v to paste right?
[02:06] <wilee-nilee> DG_, I just use a right click copy and paste not sure to be honest
[02:06] <Meris> DG_, Shift-Ins works as well.
[02:06] <DG_> ok thanks
[02:06] <DG_> ill be back in a sec
[02:08] <cowsquad> Should I tried ubuntu quetzal? any thoughts?
[02:08] <Meris> How can I start another X-session complete with LightDM and the whole shebang from a vterm logged in as a normal user, or is this impossible?
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> cowsquad, the channel you want is #uibuntu+1
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> #ubuntu+1
[02:08] <cowsquad> thank you man
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> np
[02:09] <elijah> Hey guys, accidentally removed myself from all groups, now I cannot sudo anything. How can run a command to fix it without logging out?
[02:10] <hfic> elijah, you can't
[02:10] <elijah> hfic: :/
[02:10] <DG_> back
[02:10] <elijah> well, at least it isn't a server, lol
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> elijah, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[02:10] <hfic> elijah, unless you have another sudo user. You can readd yourself, if not easiest way is to edit it with a livecd
[02:11] <DG_> wilee-nilee i put it in and it said "sudo" is not recognized
[02:11] <pepperjack> elijah: i usually boot into single user shell then mount -o remount,rw / to remount root writable
[02:11] <DG_> or it is not a command
[02:12] <veryhappy> hi guys need your help. i installed a few days before ubuntu 32 bit on my external harddrive but now i'm anyhow sick of it. i actually planned to have a portable linux but since i notice that nearly no notebooks or pcs that i use work only with 32 bit but also with 64 bit i ask me shouldn't i go for 64 bit now?
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> DG_, This is the admin account right, or a second standard account? If you don't make the cammond exactly as I posted it you will get errors as well, check that.
[02:12] <veryhappy> it's anyhow a little bit too slow sometimes
[02:13] <DG_> i put in sudo grub-update i only have one account im a beginner man i wouldnt know :/
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> DG_, It is sudo update-grub
[02:13] <TJ-> veryhappy: 64-bit is good for 2GB RAM+
[02:13] <elijah> wilee-nilee: hfic pepperjack - thanks guys
[02:13] <Meris> veryhappy, if it's too slow, try a lighter Desktop Environment, like Lubuntu
[02:13] <DG_> well shit im stupid
[02:13] <DG_> brb again
[02:13] <Meris> !lubuntu | veryhappy
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> lol who isn't
[02:14] <TJ-> veryhappy: A 32-bit *and* 64-bit kernel with just a 32-bit user-space is often a good idea for portable drives (USB sticks) to make booting possible on all x86 architectures
[02:14] <veryhappy> no not at all i'm happy with my kde and btw this computer here was built 2009+
[02:16] <Meris> veryhappy, my computer was built in 2008, but it's still very fast for what I use it for.
[02:16] <veryhappy> ok other question would it hurt to go for 64 bit and not be able to use EVERY computer when it doesn't support 64 bit?
[02:16] <veryhappy> the system ^^
[02:17] <Meris> veryhappy, for a portable USB-stick I would be conservative and go with 32 Bit instead; especially when you want to run it on multiple computers.
[02:17] <TJ-> veryhappy: If the system doesn't have more than 4GB of RAM, 64-bit will impose a space penalty since addresses used in programs in RAM take up double the space of 32-bit
[02:18] <TJ-> veryhappy: but 64-bit CPUs have more general purpose registers so many programs (if compiled correctly) can benefit from fast execution times since the CPU doesn't have to keep storing variables in memory
[02:19] <veryhappy> this is NOT a usb stick this is a portable HDD 2.5" for example why did my flightgear run like a charm and on 32 it's lagging?
[02:19] <DG_> wilee-nilee "sudo" is an unrecognized command
[02:19] <Meris> veryhappy, perhaps flightgear is optimized for 64-bit?
[02:19] <DG_> i cant do anything
[02:20] <veryhappy> Meris: i didn't know that
[02:20] <TJ-> veryhappy: Can't answer that - maybe the open source non-acelerated 3D driver was being used?
[02:20] <veryhappy> i don't know as well
[02:20] <Meris> veryhappy, I don't *know* it either, it is just a possibility, nothing more
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> DG_, Not sure what to say that command and the word sudo which gives you super user access always work.
[02:20] <veryhappy> ok
[02:21] <TJ-> veryhappy: How do you connect the external hard disk to the PC? USB? eSATA? Firewire?
[02:21] <veryhappy> USB.
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> DG_, I assume your not running in root say from recovery.
[02:21] <pepperjack> DG_: are you working in the normal ubuntu desktop with a terminal open?  you have the graphical desktop and can launch a browser and stuff?
[02:21] <king_cobra> how do you reclaim unallocated space on HD?
[02:21] <Meris> DG_, maybe your PATH variable is messed up?
[02:22] <truemove> king_cobra: gparted?
[02:22] <TJ-> veryhappy: OK, if that's USB2 then the maxmium transfer rate on a good day may well be less than 30MB/sec (theoretical maximum is 45MB/sec)
[02:22] <veryhappy> can i install ubuntu right now without losing all settings that are already made and can i instruct grub to boot a file instead of a drive that i use with dd?
[02:22] <king_cobra> ya
[02:22] <DG_> wilee-nilee OMG what? lmao i thought i was supposed to be doing this through the grub bootloader command prompt
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> DG_, I have been very clear that the terminal is run from the desktop, I said the terminal was found in the menu.
[02:23] <DG_> yeah i know you have
[02:24] <DG_> im just very stupid
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> hehe join the club
[02:24] <DG_> no matter how clear you say it
[02:24] <DG_> ill never get it
[02:24] <DG_> now how do i open the command window!
[02:24] <king_cobra> I deleted mint from the HD using gparted, now that it's gone i have 15.5 gb unallocated on HD.. and i want that space back for my ubuntu 12
[02:24] <hfic> DG_, if you don't get it ..you don't get your windows back.
[02:24] <DG_> LOL
[02:24] <Meris> How can I start another X-session complete with LightDM and the whole shebang from a vterm logged in as a normal user, or is this impossible?
[02:24] <DG_> BUT I MISS MY WINDOWS!
[02:25] <truemove> king_cobra:  just use gparted and extent you ubuntu part
[02:25] <truemove> eas
[02:25] <truemove> easy
[02:25] <wan26> DG_, try pressing ctrl+alt+t together
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> DG_, If you have the panel on the left of the ndesktop hit the top button and type terminal and choose that to open and run that command sudo update-grub
[02:25] <DG_> wn26 thanks :)
[02:25] <DG_> wan*
[02:25] <king_cobra> ok
[02:26] <pepperjack> DG_: dont be intimidated by the repairing grub and other stuff.  its mostly just googling for instructions and pasting a few commands.  most everything for ubuntu is documented in a tutorial :)
[02:26] <DG_> its not letting me type in my password wat dah eff
[02:26] <Meris> king_cobra, be sure to make a backup first if you do not have a separate /home partition!
[02:26] <veryhappy> can i boot an iso directly with grub?
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> DG_, YOU wont see it just type it and hit enter
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> veryhappy, yes
[02:27] <veryhappy> wilee-nilee:  how?
[02:27] <veryhappy> wilee-nilee: well just give me a link
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> veryhappy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1549847
[02:28] <veryhappy> thanks
[02:28] <DG_> wilee-nilee it said it found some things :/ now what
[02:28] <veryhappy> see ya
[02:28] <veryhappy> tc
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> DG_, are in those things a windows stanza?
[02:29] <DG_> linux image, initrd image memtest86+ and windows 8 loader but i have windows 7
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> DG_, That could be for any number of reasons if you only have W7 and Ubuntu I would just reboot it and in that grub menu should be windows now boot to it to see if it works, so reboot.
[02:30] <natsirt> http://imgur.com/hjpc8
[02:30] <DG_> ok brb :)
[02:31] <horny-sama> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12227183#post12227183
[02:31] <horny-sama> help
[02:32] <king_cobra> k
[02:34] <horny-sama> anyone?
[02:34] <horny-sama> please help
[02:34] <horny-sama> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12227183#post12227183
[02:34] <natsirt> not with that handle
[02:34] <natsirt> it offends me
[02:35] <horny-sama> natsirt: come on
[02:36] <mr-fool> I need some help
[02:36] <mr-fool> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12227183#post12227183
[02:37] <wilee-nilee> mr-fool, You do not mention any specific problem.
[02:37] <natsirt> mr-fool: I know of a script. But the last time i posted one i got in trouble
[02:38] <DG_> *bows down* thanks wilee-nilee
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> DG_, cool your in.
[02:38] <chris59> Hello, since upgrading to 12.04 my mouse has been slow to be recognized. It takes about 30 secs after my desktop appears before my mouse is responsive. It's a Logitech mouse I have had for years and was fine in previous versions.
[02:38] <mr-fool> wilee-nilee: the problem is I can't get the sound card working
[02:38] <mr-fool> no sound
[02:38] <DG_> turns out it was mislabeled as windows 8
[02:39] <mr-fool> natsirt: seriously?
[02:39] <natsirt> yes
[02:39] <DG_> then again
[02:39] <DG_> im realizing how much faster ubuntu is
[02:39] <DG_> the boot time took FOREVER
[02:39] <mr-fool> post it on pastebin??
[02:39] <mr-fool> what kind of trouble?
[02:40] <natsirt> mr-fool: problem?
[02:41] <elijah> Hey guys, can someone do a "groups yourusername" and tell me if "root" is in that list?
[02:41] <elijah> I have restored all groups but am still having sudo issues
[02:41] <Gycklarn> gycklarn@vain ~ $ groups gycklarn
[02:41] <Gycklarn> gycklarn : gycklarn printadmin
[02:42] <mr-fool> natsirt: just post it on pastebin so I can use it?
[02:42] <mr-fool> problem solved?
[02:42] <elijah> I think the default user groups are "adm cdrom sudo dip plugdev lpadmin sambashare
[02:42] <elijah> "
[02:43] <TJ-> elijah: root should never be in a regular-user's groups list
[02:43] <elijah> I have a vbox server but the groups are different on that.
[02:43] <natsirt> yeah for sure
[02:43] <elijah> TJ-: yeah, that is what I thought but the vbox server has root as a group
[02:43] <natsirt> give me liek 5 minutes
[02:44] <Meris> What is the script that starts X and then LightDM in Ubuntu?
[02:44] <elijah> does anyone have admin?
[02:44] <elijah> I am wondering if my admin group is deleted
[02:44] <TJ-> elijah: For sudo "/etc/sudoers" usually has "admin" group set for privileges, but sometimes for some reason the "admin" group isn't create on the system
[02:44] <TJ-> elijah: I usually either create the 'admin' group, or better, add the existing "adm" group into "/etc/sudoers" with the same settings as the "admin" group
[02:45] <DG_> i love you wilee-nilee
[02:46] <pepperjack> elijah: my /etc/sudoers file contains simply a like like:  %sudo  ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
[02:46] <Meris> elijah, or go BSD-style and create the "wheel" group instead
[02:47] <Nautilus> I burned some DVD-Rs on ubuntu (using K3B) but my XP system doesn't recognize that there's anything on them.  Any ideas why?
[02:48] <mysteriousdarren> Nautilus: what are you trying to do with it?
[02:48] <Nautilus> well, I was just hoping to confirm they work on another drive/system
[02:48] <Nautilus> hm, now I wonder if this drive went south
[02:49] <mysteriousdarren> Nautilus: try to boot from it
[02:49] <Nautilus> its just data
[02:49] <elijah> Thanks guys
[02:49] <elijah> I will reboot and add the admin group to the system
[02:50] <Meris> Nautilus, you might have used a formatting that WinXP can't read.
[02:50] <Nautilus> believe it was ISO9660
[02:50] <mysteriousdarren> Nautilus: oh sorry thought it was maybe a ubuntu or something xp can't read
[02:50] <mysteriousdarren> as per what Meris said
[02:53] <Nautilus> ISO9660 should be ok from what google indicates
[02:54] <Meris> Nautilus, you can hide a CD/DVD from Joliet (the standard WindowsXP expects). RockRidge is the alternative and the recommended one if you only plan to use it on Linux systems.
[02:54] <learc83> I've got a touchscreen that shows up in lsusb as an HID mouse, but no drivers are installed for it, and when I check /proc/bus/input/devices it's not there. I don't care about multi-touch is there a way to force it to use mouse drivers?
[02:55] <Meris> learc83, which brand and model touchscreen are you referring to?
[02:55] <mr-fool> ATI SBx00 Azalia <---it is a pain in the ass dealing with this sound card
[02:56] <learc83> Meris, it's an Atmel touchscreen, with an ID of 03eb:201c, it works in 12.10, but unfortunately the beta is not working on my tablet. I've upgraded my kernel to 3.4 still not working
[02:57] <Nautilus> Meris: Oh I just remembered that the s/w asked me what platforms it was for, preselected was something like "Linux + Windows" and I left that setting.
[02:57] <Meris> Oh, my completely forgot the time. I'ts 5AM here, so it's time for me to hit the hay.
[02:57] <Nautilus> nite, thanks
[02:57] <Meris> Nautilus, that option should be just fine for cross-platform purposes.
[02:58] <Nautilus> I'll try another system, drive might be shot
[02:59] <Meris> Allright guys and gals, thanks for the wonderful atmosphere and the knowledge imparted. See you soon :-)
[03:00] <bhast2> hello
[03:00] <bhast2> can anyone help me
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> !ask | bhast2
[03:02] <WeThePeople> bhast2, jaust ask
[03:02] <bhast2> Can I install Ubuntu side by side with Windows 8?
[03:02] <WeThePeople> yes
[03:02] <bhast2> Will there be problems?
[03:02] <WeThePeople> idk
[03:02] <bhast2> What if I have win7 and win8 dual booting already
[03:03] <WeThePeople> thats fine too
[03:03] <WeThePeople> nvr heard of that usually they will use a vm for windows
[03:03] <WeThePeople> i have installed win 7 in a vm no prob
[03:04] <bhast2> I only use linux for android stuff
[03:05] <bhast2> I do alot of Visual Styles for Windows 7 and now Windows 8 so I can't have them in VM
[03:05] <bhast2> Do I have to have grub run the os picker
[03:05] <bhast2> or can I use the windows 8 one
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:its highly recommended to single boot ubuntu :p
[03:06] <WeThePeople> idk most likely grub 2 can handle it
[03:06] <jeep> bhast2: grub is the better way
[03:07] <WeThePeople> bhast2, yeah, what lotuspsychje said then use a vm for windows
[03:07] <bhast2> but vm for windows won't work for me
[03:07] <WeThePeople> in ubuntu it will
[03:07] <WeThePeople> in virtualbox
[03:08] <bhast2> for what I do I can't run it in VM
[03:08] <WeThePeople> i have had win 7 work just fine
[03:08] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:alot of nicest apps for ubuntu wil make your life easy and windowsless
[03:08] <bhast2> work and what not I can't have it installed on VM
[03:09] <bhast2> wish I could just run Ubuntu
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:whats the reason you want w8 still?
[03:11] <bhast2> Cause of my work
[03:11] <bhast2> anyway
[03:11] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | bhast2
[03:11] <bhast2> thanks lotuspsychje
[03:12] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:its recommended you install w8 first, then make an ubuntu space on your hd
[03:12] <bhast2> I can make that space thru the Ubuntu install disk right
[03:13] <bhast2> or do it in windows
[03:14] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:you can from ubuntu yes, but many guides will say making space from within w7 or w8
[03:14] <bhast2> ok what would you do
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:single boot ubuntu lol, i would try ubuntu's install space yes
[03:15] <bhast2> lol
[03:15] <bhast2> i get the feeling you don't like windows lol
[03:15] <lotuspsychje> bhast2:alot of companys run ubuntu servers and completly switched to ubuntu
[03:25] <loque> i recently put a fresh copy of ubuntu 12.04 64bit on my machine but the speed of the net goes up and down(down mostly). why could that be?
[03:25] <lotuspsychje> loque:on what wifi card?
[03:26] <loque> lotuspsychje, its is a usb stick. let me look at the name...
[03:26] <lotuspsychje> loque:usb stick as in gprs with sim card?
[03:27] <loque> lotuspsychje, as in usb wifi adapter
[03:27] <loque> rtl8187
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> loque:realtek it is right
[03:27] <loque> yes
[03:28] <lotuspsychje> loque:wep or wpa security?
[03:28] <loque> lotuspsychje, wpa2 personal
[03:29] <lotuspsychje> loque:there have been bugs before with some cards and wpa security, did you try if web has also speed bottlenecks?
[03:29] <loque> wep? no, i havent tried any other types of security but i will
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> loque:its worth a try, also if you find anything interesting on /var/log that could help?
[03:30] <jeep> wep is worthless only takes a few minutes to crack might as well just disable security if your gonna use it
[03:31] <adie> can windows read any EXT filesystems?
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> jeep: its only for testing mate lol
[03:31] <HeadlessZombie> u dont want to transmit in cleartext, wep is better than nothing
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> !ext4 | adie
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> !ext
[03:31] <adie> :/
[03:31] <lotuspsychje> hmm
[03:31] <adie> !cake
[03:31] <adie> :(
[03:31] <jeep> adie: ext2fs explorer i think its called
[03:32] <HeadlessZombie> windows can use HFS+ but not natively. best bet is to use NTFS
[03:32] <HeadlessZombie> ah yeah theres that
[03:32] <adie> hmmmm okay
[03:32] <adie> any downsides for using NTFS hs a storage drive within ubuntu?
[03:32] <selite> Hello guys, by default the Clear Looks theme is not included, how do I install it?
[03:32] <HeadlessZombie> nope
[03:32] <selite> Will something like apt-get install compiz work?
[03:33] <adie> okay ^_^
[03:33] <lotuspsychje> selite:compiz already runs on unity3d
[03:33] <HeadlessZombie> download it from opendesktop.org then open system settings
[03:33] <selite> lotuspsychje: Yeah but I disabled unity I just use gnome now.
[03:34] <lotuspsychje> selite:gnome or gnome classic?
[03:34] <selite> lotuspsychje: Gnome classic?
[03:34] <selite> It's not available in gnome classic.
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> selite:install ccsm you will find out of compiz runs or not
[03:35] <selite> lotuspsychje: What's CCSM and why should I install it for a theme?
[03:35] <selite> :S
[03:35] <gatewaywirelessi> Hello, I have a Gateway DX4300 desktop.  I seem to be having issues with the wireless internet for it.  Wireless card seems to be Realtek rtl8190  I have tried several tutorials online to no avail...
[03:36] <selite> And btw I downloaded another theme, it's a zip file how do I install it?
[03:36] <lotuspsychje> selite:no ccsm is to config compiz
[03:37] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, type lshw in terminal and copy , paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[03:39] <sybioz> e ae
[03:40] <jeep> oh what happened to the good ol days where you had to compile your own kernel to make sound and network cards work
[03:40] <Guest64846> Hello, Does anyone know about kubuntu on ubuntu channel?
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> !alis | Guest64846
[03:40] <gatewaywirelessi> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1193948/
[03:41] <lotuspsychje> jeep:lol little offtopic, join  ##hardware
[03:41] <selite> How do I install themes? I try drag-drop into the appearance but it doesn't work. Any ideas?
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> selite:not sure mate i didnt use gnome for long time
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> selite:did you try http://gnome-look.org/
[03:43] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, type iwconfig and look for wlan0 wat does it say?
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> selite:alot of usefull info on there
[03:43] <sybioz> ^
[03:43] <sybioz> ^^
[03:43] <lotuspsychje> sybioz:please stop that
[03:43] <sybioz> ????
[03:44] <gatewaywirelessi> says:  lo  no wireless extensions.  eth0  no wireless extensions.
[03:44] <DracoDan> http://www.ubuntuupdates.org/package/core/quantal/universe/base/targetcli
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> sybioz:this is an ubuntu support channel, ask your question if you have troubles
[03:44] <DracoDan> that page says the latest version is Latest version: 	2.0rc1-2
[03:44] <sybioz> okay
[03:44] <jeep> gatewaywirelessi: you probbaly need ndiswrapper
[03:44] <DracoDan> I have 2.0rc1, there's a difference between the two, right?
[03:44] <gatewaywirelessi> I have ndiswrapper
[03:44] <gatewaywirelessi> Isn't working.
[03:45] <DracoDan> how can I get the latest?
[03:45] <Nautilus> i'm planning on moving from 10.04 tp 12.04 via a clean install.  My 10.04 is in it's own partition on a dual-boot XP/10.04 system.  I have added another drive (lets call it drive B, and I don't plug in both drives at the same time), and created an exact same size partition so that when I get 12.04 ready, I can use Norton Ghost to do a copy to drive A.  The problem / my Q is that drive A currently has GRUB1 and I'll need to change th
[03:45] <selite> lotuspsychje: But the way that it's explained on how to install the theme doesn't work.
[03:45] <DracoDan> I'm really sorry if that seems like a silly question
[03:45] <hazel> anyone can tell me how make to tor browser run deluge?
[03:46] <HeadlessZombie> boot with a live disk and sudo grub-install /dev/sd?
[03:46] <xangua> DracoDan: that page says 2.0rc1-2 is on quantal, are you using ubuntu 12.10 DracoDan ¿
[03:46] <jeep> ok time for something important ... food bbl
[03:46] <Nautilus> HeadlessZombie: me?
[03:46] <DracoDan> yes
[03:46] <xangua> !12.10 | DracoDan
[03:46] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, what distro u on
[03:46] <DracoDan> shit.. I clicked the wrong chan, sorry :-P
[03:47] <DracoDan> (I'm already in both)
[03:47] <gatewaywirelessi> I am running Ubuntu 12.04 64X
[03:47] <hazel> how do i run deluge from tor browser?
[03:47] <lotuspsychje> !patience | hazel
[03:47] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, type ifconfig do you see wlan0, what does it say
[03:48] <gatewaywirelessi> I do not see wlan0
[03:48] <HeadlessZombie> Nautilus, your question got cut off so i just gave a random answer
[03:48] <xangua> hazel: i don't see the point in using a torrent client with tor
[03:48] <DracoDan> well, if anyone can help me, I dont expect an answer from ubuntu+1, it's quiet in there
[03:49] <lotuspsychje> selite: http://www.noobslab.com/2012/04/install-gnome-shell-34-and-extensions.html
[03:49] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, this is the prob>> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1314693
[03:49] <Nautilus> HeadlessZombie: hm, didnt get cut off for me.  Maybe just in your client?
[03:50] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, 64x
[03:50] <Nautilus> where did it end?
[03:50] <WeThePeople> is 64  bit?
[03:50] <selite> lotuspsychje: Thanks man, I was able to solve the problem.
[03:50] <gatewaywirelessi> Yeah 64 bit
[03:50] <DracoDan> does apt-get update and apt-get-upgrade not update all the packages on a system?  I'm not too familiar with ubuntu :-/
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> selite: god luck mate
[03:50] <DracoDan> also, how can I see what repos it's using?
[03:51] <delinquentme> GREP question:  grep "class" -r / *.rb       this will search for all *.rb files which contain the string "class"    recursively from the current dir
[03:51] <delinquentme> right?
[03:52] <gatewaywirelessi> So, what do I do to solve said problem?
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> gatewaywirelessi:did you read the url from WeThePeople? it describes what you need to do
[03:55] <gatewaywirelessi> I am attempting to figure out what exactly on said url I am supposed to follow...
[03:55] <WeThePeople> well not exactly
[03:55] <simpleirc> Hello
[03:55] <simpleirc> Is anyone here?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> simpleirc:just ask your question mate
[03:56] <TJ-> delinquentme: "grep -r class *.rb"
[03:56] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, im still lookin
[03:57] <moriyama> どうこに日本語ではなします？
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> !jp | moriyama
[03:57] <moriyama> lotuspsychje, thanks for the link!
[03:57] <gatewaywirelessi> I know it would be a lot to ask, but is there anyway someone could remote control the problem system (which I have hooked up to ethernet currently) and figure this out?
[03:58] <sybioz> meu zvo on ubuntu is down
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> moriyama:sugoi ; )
[03:58] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, here this might work uninstall the ndiswrapper though soo it does not conflict >> http://www.linuxine.com/story/solved-rtl8190-wifi-n-pci-card-driver
[03:58] <tsimpson> delinquentme: no, it will search recursively from / and all *.rb files in the current directory
[03:58] <sybioz> how much watermelons i need to make a crazy frog burp the alfabeto on the escurregador?
[03:59] <lotuspsychje> !ot | sybioz
[03:59] <WeThePeople> ok nvr mind
[03:59] <bazhang> sybioz, wrong channel
[03:59] <WeThePeople> lol
[03:59] <sybioz> ok
[03:59] <sybioz> bye
[04:00] <WeThePeople> here >> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=9895713#post9895713
[04:00] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, see above^^^^
[04:01] <gatewaywirelessi> I am on the provided link currently.
[04:01] <adie> I am looking to do some weird copy/sync thing on my computer where files show up in one folder, and then get copied to another folder on the same system
[04:01] <delinquentme> so        grep "class" -r ./ *.rb                ... will search from " / "     ... basically my entire system for *.rb files containing "class"
[04:01] <delinquentme> ?
[04:01] <adie> so one folder can remain in tact, and the other one can be ripped apart and organized
[04:01] <lotuspsychje> delinquentme:did you read what TJ told you?
[04:01] <tsimpson> delinquentme: no, it will search recursively from / *and* all *.rb files in the current directory
[04:01] <adie> not sure if rsync is the right tool for the job :x
[04:02] <delinquentme> lotuspsychje, yeah ... I'm just kind of boggled as to why I've got this thinking in my head
[04:02] <delinquentme> ( mental debugging )
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> gatewaywirelessi: there are many linux drivers on the realtek tw site mate might take alook there too
[04:03] <delinquentme> actually TJ-  "  grep -r require *.rb  "
[04:03] <delinquentme> >> grep: *.rb: No such file or directory
[04:04] <delinquentme> O_o;;;;
[04:05] <tsimpson> delinquentme: use find and grep, eg: find . -name '*.rb' -exec grep c"class" {} +
[04:06] <min|dvir|us> How do I get the index of an element $el in a collection of elements $els?
[04:06] <tsimpson> but without the typo
[04:06] <min|dvir|us> Whoops.
[04:06] <delinquentme> tsimpson, is that like a pipe?
[04:06] <WeThePeople> gatewaywirelessi, compiling and installing is easy
[04:06] <delinquentme> like the " unix style " pipes?
[04:06] <TJ-> delinquentme: You said "recursively from the current dir, right?" ... I showed you how to search from the current directory, since your example would have searched from root "/"
[04:06] <simpleirc> Hello can someone help me with regular expressions on Linux?
[04:07] <delinquentme> yeah all the files within the current dir
[04:07] <min|dvir|us> simpleirc: that's pretty vague. I doubt anyone will want to help.
[04:07] <tsimpson> delinquentme: find has the option to execute something on all found files, so you don't need to pipe, though you could also: find . -name '*.rb' -print | xargs grep "class"
[04:07] <delinquentme> Ohh thats the -exec
[04:07] <tsimpson> yes
[04:07] <delinquentme> TJ-, but that didn't do what I was expecting
[04:08] <TJ-> delinquentme: However, if the file-names you are searching for begin with a "." you need to do "grep -r class {.,}*.rb
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> simpleirc:what you mean by that?
[04:08] <jeep> simpleirc: just ask if its too complicated someone will tell you this is for ubuntu help only
[04:09] <simpleirc> Ok
[04:09] <gatewaywirelessi> Thanks for the help. I will be e-mailing realtek and hoping for the drivers. This appears to be the only device not listed on their website...
[04:10] <WeThePeople> np
[04:10] <HeadlessZombie> msg Areckx he might be able to write a driver for ya
[04:10] <selite> If I have files like e1 e2 e3 and e1.c e2.c e3.c, how do I delete only the ones without the .c extension?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> gatewaywirelessi:you could try synaptics for realtek driver search too
[04:11] <TJ-> selite: "rm e{1,2,3}"
[04:11] <selite> TJ-: What if they go up to 1000?
[04:11] <selite> TJ-: Is there a way that this can be done, in a better, simpler way.
[04:12] <Elesa> Hi, I have Natty installed and the installer asks me if I want to replace it with Precise and keep my settings and files. The computer has two accounts, will it work for both?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:yes it will upgrade with your existing /homes
[04:12] <luftikuss> Elesa: yes.
[04:13] <jeep> could always just mkdir ../c-files&& mv *.c ../c-files && rm *
[04:13] <Elesa> Also, can I just make a partition with a Live DVD and move the contents of /home to it, then do an advanced installation so that the /home's stay on it?
[04:13] <Elesa> That's what I'd like to do instead of keeping everything on 1 partition.
[04:13] <Elesa> I still have a backup and stuff.
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:whats the purpose of the advanced partitioning?
[04:14] <TJ-> selite: "find . -regex '.*/e[[:digit:]]{1,3}' -delete"
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:another Os?
[04:14] <Elesa> Keeping a separate partition for /boot, /home and /.
[04:15] <TJ-> selite: slight correction... "find . -regex '.*/e[[:digit:]]{1,3}$' -delete"
[04:15] <Elesa> But most importantly, keeping /home in a different partition for easier upgrading/repairing/etc.
[04:15] <luftikuss> Elesa: Yes, you can do this also successfully.
[04:15] <Elesa> Great! So I just have to open GParted, make a new partition, copy /home to it, and then set it as /home on the installer, right?
[04:16] <TJ-> Elesa: If you reboot into recovery mode you can do it manually from there at the root shell (since /home/ isn't required in that mode)
[04:16] <Elesa> Oh, okay, I was thinking of doing it from a Live USB though, unless there is some benefit to doing it from the root shell =O
[04:17] <TJ-> Elesa: quicker :)
[04:19] <Elesa> Another question, the installer says that it can keep installed programs on the new Precise system if I upgrade directly from Natty to Precise.. Does that really work? Is there any way to do it manually with advanced partitioning?
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: it will upgrade your home and software yes(if the packages are still supported in precise)
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:but its higly recommended to clean install precise for smooth fast system
[04:20] <flaviorecski> opa
[04:21] <Elesa> I knew you'd tell me that, and I think the same too. Any way to make a list of installed programs?
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> !info aptoncd | Elesa
[04:21] <Elesa> I hope I can just sudo apt-get install it >.>
[04:21] <tsimpson> !clone
[04:22] <Elesa> Thanks lotuspsychje!
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: sure, a good backup of your files and packages then clean install precise, and partition as you wish
[04:23] <Elesa> tsimpson, does that create conflicts with Precise? I mean, incompatible libraries and stuff..?
[04:23] <Elesa> lotuspsychje, that's done via Dejà Dup, thanks.
[04:23] <zykotick9> tsimpson: i don't think the !clone factoid should be suggested in 12.04 (see !aptitude for details)... just sayin' ;)
[04:24] <selite> How do I change the font size in vim?
[04:24] <tsimpson> Elesa: you should mostly be ok
[04:24] <Elesa> So.. aptoncd or clone? D:
[04:24] <tsimpson> zykotick9: most people don't really have multiarch  stuff
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: i installed precise 12.04.1 64 in like 13minutes
[04:25] <zykotick9> tsimpson: all 64bit people do (and 64bit just overtook 32bit on debian)
[04:25]  * Elesa uses a 32bit system.
[04:25] <tsimpson> zykotick9: not yet on ubuntu installs though
[04:25] <king_cobra> i have a question about editing the menu list file in /boot/grub/menu.lst , after removing linux mint.. yet again and updating grub for the umpteenth time the grub menu at start up still displays all the Mint boot options,  my question is can i edit this file an delete the unwanted OS's on the grub menu?
[04:26] <zykotick9> tsimpson: was literally the last few days i believe it happened for the first time with popcorn on debian ;)
[04:26] <Elesa> Maybe I'll use aptoncd because I want to start fresh and maybe there will be some packages that I don't want anymore, thanks for you great help anyways. =D
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> !mint | king_cobra
[04:26] <tsimpson> zykotick9: the majority of ubuntu installs are still 32bit, mostly because it has the word "recommended" next to it
[04:26] <king_cobra> i dont have MINT.. i removed it.. im on Ubuntu editing a file on Ubuntu..
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> king_cobra: oh ok my bad mate
[04:27] <king_cobra> hate that crap
[04:27] <LibertyTrader> does centrino 2200BGN have open source drivers?
[04:27] <wilee-nilee> king_cobra, What is at the top of the grub list when you boot?
[04:27] <zykotick9> tsimpson: </ot> but i honestly think ubuntu should stick to that recommendation.  i see serveral 64bit issues in this channel that could probably be avoided ;)
[04:28] <daurnimator> anyone used a touch screen with ubuntu?
[04:28] <Elesa> Umm.. APTonCD is certainly NOT displaying all my packages.
[04:28] <daurnimator> mine seems to be doing select (rather than licking)
[04:28] <daurnimator> *clicking
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> !ot | daurnimator
[04:28] <wilee-nilee> king_cobra, Or if you run sudo update-grub
[04:28] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: that's not really ot?
[04:28] <napster> Elesa: It just lists packages available in the apt cache
[04:28] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: !anyone maybe ;)
[04:28] <king_cobra> wilee-nilee: Ubuntu 11.10, kernel 3.0.0-13-generic even though its 12.04
[04:28] <datruth> my system boots up in 43seconds i'm trying to speed that up what are some things I can do?
[04:28] <daurnimator> lotuspsychje: huh?
[04:29] <wilee-nilee> king_cobra, YOU have just one Ubuntu install or is 11.10 installed as well?
[04:29] <king_cobra> its only 12.04
[04:30] <xinyi> sudo apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-30-generic
[04:30] <xinyi> this would update the kernel
[04:30] <wilee-nilee> king_cobra, Cool, have you used a grub menu tweaker like grub customizer?
[04:31] <wilee-nilee> or any other
[04:31] <king_cobra> yes
[04:31]  * zykotick9 suggests using "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" to update kernels... but that's just me
[04:31] <lotuspsychje> datruth:install a 64bit ubuntu on an ssd hd
[04:32] <king_cobra> ill try it Zykotick9, right now just trying to get Mint off my grub menu..
[04:32] <jeep> lotuspsychje: did you do a kernel yet ?
[04:32] <wilee-nilee> king_cobra, Ah there is the problem you can adjust from there probably or just purge and reinstall grub including making sure IT gets put in the mbr then run a update-grub and have it all fixed then tweak again, so ask for the purge commands and the reinstall commands first.
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> jeep:no, like i said i used several versions and kernels for years on ubuntu, this bug remained following me..
[04:33] <wilee-nilee> first before jut doing a purge unless you know king_cobra
[04:33] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: 64bit is only really useful for certain situations and/or more then 4GB RAM...
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> jeep:its gotta be something else..
[04:33] <loque> can i change my mac address permanently?
[04:34] <xinyi> yep
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> !info macchanger | loque
[04:34] <loque> awesome
[04:34] <lotuspsychje> zykotick9: i got 64bit on ssd with 1gig ram and feel very usefull..
[04:34] <king_cobra> ok.. will try..
[04:34] <datruth> lotuspsychje: nothing I can tweak on the system? it use to load up faster than 43seconds
[04:35] <napster> loque: Actually mac change is temporary and will reset on reboot
[04:35] <zykotick9> lotuspsychje: i have 64bit os on ssd with 4GB RAM - and do a ton of encoding (current load average: 7.72, 7.67, 7.67)
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> datruth: most speed boosts are hd and ram and cpu...
[04:36] <king_cobra> thank you
[04:36] <xinyi> in reallity , mac addr is written to hardware, any software mean to change it just modify it every time you boot
[04:37] <Elesa> napster, any way to make it list every package? ._.
[04:37] <zykotick9> xinyi: i hate the eth1, then eth2 mac changes cause... udev is solution BTW
[04:37] <napster> xinyi: And I would have added the macchanger random mac command to some init scripts if I wanted to do this :)
[04:37] <datruth> lotuspsychje: cpu and ram is pretty powerful it seems like over time but system takes longer to boot
[04:37] <jeep> lotuspsychje: try it i bet your in for a surprise
[04:37] <datruth> and im trying to fix that
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> datruth:what hd brand u run ubuntu on?
[04:38] <zykotick9> napster: lol, you're gonna end up with eth204 ;)
[04:38] <napster> Elesa: What you exactly wanted to do is to make a list of names of all installed packages.
[04:38] <napster> zykotick9: :D
[04:38] <Elesa> napster, I guess I will open Gedit and do it. xD
[04:38] <Elesa> sigh
[04:39] <napster> Elesa: no
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> datruth:43 second with POST loading counting?
[04:39] <napster> Elesa: I think this will do it for you : dpkg --get-selections > installed-software
[04:39] <Elesa> done
[04:39] <datruth> lotuspsychje: 43seconds to get from my boot screen to desktop and I think I have wd
[04:39] <Psi-Jack> I'm having this constant problem. Many things I do, such as simply looking at email in Thunderbird. Sending/Receiving IMs in Pidgin, starting Chrome, I get an Authenticate dialog: Authentication is required to change user data.
[04:40]  * zykotick9 thinks dpkg might even be worse then aptitude... for this case, but isn't sure.
[04:40] <jeep> Elesa: for list of every package dpkg -l > foo.txt then open foo.txt
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Datruth: thats pretty fast for a regular hd mate, ide or sata?
[04:40] <Elesa> Thanks jeep. =D
[04:40] <datruth> lotuspsychje: sata how can I see what services/deamons are being loaded on boot time and how can I disable them?
[04:41] <napster> Elesa: jeep Actually the first command outputs something that can be used to reinstall those packages back, That is exactly what Elesa want to do
[04:41] <CellTech> Awesome question. Any chance I could set my computer up with my linux on ide1 and a windows drive on ide2 then chose what to boot from at start up?
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> datruth: i really recommend ssd on ubuntu, messing with services will ot gain much speed
[04:42] <napster> Elesa: dpkg --set-selections < installed-software Use this command when you are done with your fresh install get all those packages back installed.
[04:42] <Pirsch> Hello. Is anyone here familiar with ubuntu and eepc?
[04:43] <Elesa> =O, that's great
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> Pirsch:just ask your question mate
[04:43] <Elesa> Finally, any way to get aMSN in Precise?
[04:43] <yakster> no, but if you want to send me one, Ill definatly take a look see… lol
[04:43] <lotuspsychje> !info amsn | Elesa
[04:43] <Pirsch> I bought my daughter an eeepc and installed ubuntu on it. I have wireless options but my wired internet is non-existent. Nothing happen when I plug the cable in
[04:43] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm, that "Authentication required" seems to come from policykit's polkit-agent-helper-1
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:maybe a manual amsn install
[04:44] <Elesa> D:
[04:44] <Elesa> You mean compiling it?
[04:44] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, my google searches have been fruitless
[04:44] <datruth> lotuspsychje: how can I do it any way
[04:44] <datruth> lotuspsychje: i can only get 128gb max on ssd?
[04:45] <napster> Elesa: no, debs are available
[04:45] <Elesa> I hope so, because the last time I searched for a Precise .deb I found nothing.
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> datruth:what you mean by max?
[04:46] <napster> Elesa: if you don't find precise packages, you will need to build it your own.
[04:46] <Elesa> Compiling.. ._.
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: https://launchpad.net/~amsn-daily/+archive/ppa
[04:47] <Elesa> Now that I like. =D
[04:47] <Elesa> I guess that'd be all, thanks guys! Have a good night/day/whatever!
[04:47] <datruth> the services/deamons
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> Pirsch:did you enable eth0 cabled conection for the first time?
[04:48] <lotuspsychje> !info bum | datruth
[04:49] <lotuspsychje> brb
[04:49] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, I'm a noob so I'll tell you what I did. I opened edit connections and did what I always do with setting up the DSL. That didn't work so I thought I might try doing an automatic wireless. That didn't work either. How can I enable eth0?
[04:50] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, I mean automatic wired
[04:50] <luftikuss> "Xfce is a lightweight desktop environment for Unix-like OSs." "LXDE is a free and open source desktop environment for Unix and other POSIX compliant platforms." What is the main difference between them two?
[04:51] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, 'enable eth0' does sound like the right thing to do. I'll google a 'howto' and if I cannot find it, I'll be back
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> luftikuss, what is your definition of main here there are multiple fiffrences.
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> differences*
[04:52] <luftikuss> wilee-nilee: Use your definition and tell me. I don't know yet.
[04:53] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, I'll try this http://wiki.geteasypeasy.com/Your_Ethernet_%28LAN%29_doesnt_work,_but_you_have_drivers%3F_Simple...
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> luftikuss, lubuntu is much lighter in its use of ram and cpu than xubuntu is the main thing I would say.
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> ram anyway for sure, both can be trimmed though to run light.
[04:55] <luftikuss> wilee-nilee: You used the term "xubuntu". But I would like that you tell me the difference between Xfce and LXDE, please.
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> luftikuss, those are the base of lubuntu and xubuntu basically the same difference. If you really want to know you can install both and completely remove them easily to compare.
[04:57] <wilee-nilee> they will overlap in some apps both instaled though.
[04:58] <jeep> luftikuss: desktop environments are like women the more you try the happier you will be in the end
[04:58] <myhero> hii all
[04:59] <lotuspsychje> jeep:lol
[04:59] <wilee-nilee> that is a horribly sexist remark I would be careful there.
[05:00] <myhero> which is the best im clent for webcam n ubuntu...if its multi-im then its better otherwise single ones also do...but the best for im webcam on ubuntu
[05:00] <Psi-Jack> myhero: There is no "best" of anything. Best is a measure of your own personal and unique opinion of what you consider best for you, and could be in multiple different scenarios. It is more useful to ask more specific questions you have.
[05:00] <Pirsch> lotuspsychje, didn't work. I still have no network connection
[05:01] <myhero> Psi-Jack: name some gud multi-im clients which have webcam feature
[05:01] <qualia> Hi ! I know that solving the problem of "Question marks showing up instead of the subtitles, with special characters from another language" is done by choosing that language in Subtitles & Encoding. But this hasn't solved the problem for me and it's still displaying ? instead of special characters
[05:01] <Psi-Jack> myhero: Skype. :p
[05:01] <qualia> i dont have anything on my system about that language could that be the problem, do i have to download an encoding file thing?
[05:02] <myhero> Psi-Jack: skype supports yahoo and google and is it available on ubuntu ??
[05:02] <Psi-Jack> myhero: No. You were completely unspecific, so you got a very unspecific answer. Gee, would've helped to be more specific as you were told, right? And yes, Skype's available for Ubuntu.
[05:03] <namoamitabuddha> Is there anybody using unbound?
[05:04] <jeep> namoamitabuddha: lots of people "unbound" online im not sure if anyone specifically chooses it
[05:04] <aminux71> hi
[05:04] <jeep> qualia: subtitles as in your watching a video and the subtitles dont show ?
[05:05] <aminux71> i need help prob with install ubuntu
[05:05] <myhero> Psi-Jack: skype supports im for yahoo google msn fb with webcam feature ?? any other gud alternatives supporting these networks and integrated with webcam feature....??? what about pidgin empathy or glaxium ?
[05:05] <jeep> !ask > aminux71
[05:05] <qualia> jeep, yes
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> aminux71, I saw your post in the forms channel do you only have 256 mib of ram?
[05:05] <Psi-Jack> myhero: good is spelled "good", not "gud"
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> forums*
[05:06] <aminux71> os install mode enabled on dell optiplex 755
[05:06] <Psi-Jack> aminux71: "OS install" mode usually sucks. It just keeps the RAM down to 256MB or such, which is kinda silly.
[05:06] <myhero> Psi-Jack: i know....shorthand....also here ppl dont like shorthand that i also i know....but typing that way...anyway am i getting any useful ans. ?
[05:06] <codemaniac> aminux71: a quick serch returned me this
[05:06] <Psi-Jack> myhero: This channel, and specifically I, does not respond well to "shtspk", because it is lame, annoying, and unacceptable here.
[05:06] <codemaniac> http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/ws530/en/ug/html/2codes.htm
[05:07] <aminux71> i have 1 gb ram
[05:07] <Psi-Jack> aminux71: Yes.. "OS Install mode" will not give you 1GB RAM.
[05:07] <myhero> Psi-Jack: i know....but u gonna ans. or should i leave....??
[05:07] <Psi-Jack> myhero: Bye!
[05:07] <Rayston>  I apologize for this not really being an Ubuntu question, but anyone know a good place to get free shell access on a server where I am allowed to run persistent processes like IRCBots, Mumble Servers. etc.? I have a webserver and they offer such but at 15 bux a month, seems pricey
[05:08] <myhero> Psi-Jack: ok asshole
[05:08] <Psi-Jack> Rayston: Very off topic.
[05:08] <IdleOne> !language | myhero
[05:08] <jeep> Rayston: why not use your own computer ?
[05:08] <Rayston> laptop that is far from guaranteed to have good uptimes
[05:09] <jeep> Rayston: go get a dumpster box .. the things you want a p2 would handle perfect
[05:09] <Psi-Jack> jeep: Or just mow a few lawns. Computers are cheap these days.
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> Howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed('nomodeset' fixes this, but then compiz is unworkable)
[05:10] <Rayston> hehe, yeah, I actually probably have the parts to build one, just bein lazy, not sure which should win, cheap, or lazy
[05:10] <jeep> Psi-Jack: yep exactly and ubuntu downloads are free as well .. just need to purchase a cd for installing on a old computer that wont boot usb
[05:11] <Psi-Jack> jeep: Or just simply have a CDRW that you can use/erase
[05:11] <myhero> bazhang: any gud multi-im chat client for ubuntu which has webcam feature and supports atleast yahoo gtalk msn ??
[05:11] <jeep> lotuspsychje: remeber that guy little bit agao with the realtek wifi issue .. module for it is in new kernel i think
[05:11] <Psi-Jack> Some people never learn....
[05:12] <myhero> some ppl always insert their nose inbetween
[05:12] <luftikuss> wilee-nilee: Thank you for explaining.
[05:12] <lotuspsychje> jeep:any way to update kernel automaticly with apt-get?
[05:13] <luftikuss> jeep: Your message is not helpful.
[05:13] <myhero> some dont help when they r supposed 2 and even dont let others help also
[05:13] <luftikuss> myhero: True.
[05:13] <myhero> luftikuss: i know
[05:13] <jeep> lotuspsychje: you build a .deb then use dpkg to install it so you can remove it easy as well
[05:14] <myhero> bazhang: any help ??
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> jeep:i used so many kernels in the past mate, i doubt this bug will vanish with this
[05:15] <WeThePeople> what channel would be willing to talk about someone hacking my wireless signal and helping out with ?that
[05:15] <myhero> any1
[05:15] <WeThePeople> myhero, ask again
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> jeep:if adding nomodeset to grub fixes it, meaning it works on the kernel i use...
[05:16] <lotuspsychje> jeep:i really think its a grafix issue
[05:16] <robertzaccour> When I installed the FGLRX driver and restarted the picture shrunk off scale and is now smaller than the display. Any suggestions? Thanks in advance
[05:16] <aminux71> The OS Install Mode option in system setup is set to On. This limits the amount of available memory to 256 MB because some OSs will not complete installation with more than 2 GB of system memory.
[05:17] <myhero> WeThePeople:  any1.......any gud multi-im chat client with wecam feature supporting atleast yahoo, gtlak n msn networks for ubuntu ??
[05:17] <aminux71> After the OS is installed, enter system setup and set the OS Install Mode option to Off.
[05:17] <Elesa> Is it normal that GParted takes more than 15 minutes to shrink a 300 GB partition to 154?
[05:17] <Elesa> ._.
[05:17] <Grant_P> Hey guys, best AVI > MP4 convertor for ubuntu 12.04?
[05:17] <WeThePeople> myhero, pidgin maybe
[05:17] <IdleOne> !im | myhero
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> WeThePeople, wep or wpa is pretty easy to hack so a 128 full password is where I would start with using pwgen -s -n -y to generate or a web keynaker that is as close to random as it can be, you would have to install pwgen to use that code.
[05:18] <aminux71> but i don,t have the option os install on my bios
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> keymaker*
[05:18] <Elesa> Grant_P: I think Arista Transcoder.
[05:18] <WeThePeople> grant_p, look for one in software center
[05:18] <myhero> WeThePeople: does pidgins supports webcam on yahoo, man and gtalk ??
[05:18] <jeep> lotuspsychje: ill be back ina few
[05:18] <WeThePeople> myhero, idk if you will get all that in a client
[05:19] <WeThePeople> wilee-nilee, thanks
[05:19] <robertzaccour> My display screen is off scale, its smaller than the entire screen. Ever since I installed the FLGRX driver
[05:20] <myhero> WeThePeople: i only want chat client for yahoo, gtalk and msn with webcam and voice for ubuntu.....nothing more.....
[05:20] <Elesa> Is it normal that GParted takes more than 15 minutes to shrink a 300 GB partition to 154? I'm scared of clicking Cancel but it's taken TOO much time.
[05:20] <WeThePeople> elesa, is it a ubuntu partition or win
[05:21] <wilee-nilee> Elesa, at the least if there is data there, do not stop it.
[05:21] <WeThePeople> myhero, pidgin might
[05:22] <IdleOne> myhero: install and try pidgin, see if it suits your needs.
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> Elesa, If this is a OS it will take 15 to 20 at least to read it then start resizing.
[05:22] <robertzaccour> myhero: Skype and the google video chat plugin for gmail work great for video chat. Also in Kopete you can connect to Yahoo Messenger but no audio with the webcam.
[05:22] <Elesa> It's a Ubuntu partition.
[05:22] <Grant_P> Thanks Elesa & WeThePeople
[05:22] <Elesa> Yeah, it is.
[05:22] <Elesa> Sure Grant_P. =D
[05:23] <myhero> ok..i have installed pidgin...but there is no webcam otion at all...how to activate webcam on pidgin
[05:23] <WeThePeople> myhero, yes it should i saw a plugin for voice and video
[05:23] <robertzaccour> Are there any Ubuntu programs used to fix scaling issues caused by proprietary graphics drivers? Got an issue with FGLRX
[05:24] <myhero> WeThePeople: ok...i will search for the plugin
[05:24] <WeThePeople> myhero, it under tools
[05:24] <WeThePeople> plugins
[05:25] <myhero> WeThePeople: yea...got it.....tick marked it...now what....is it installed coz after ticking it nothing happening......
[05:26] <robertzaccour> When I installed the proprietary FGLRX driver and rebooted my display picture is off scale. The picture is smaller than the display parameters. Is there a way to fix scaling issues?
[05:27] <WeThePeople> myhero, http://askubuntu.com/questions/9217/audo-video-with-pidgin
[05:27] <myhero> i installed wine then yahoo messenger and gtalk and platalk in wine but everytime its getting stuck...so i think im clients dont work gud in wine......
[05:27] <myhero> WeThePeople: thnx
[05:29] <Elesa> I'm starting to get worried.
[05:29] <myhero> robertzaccour: any other chat client for ubuntu....coz i downloaded gtalk but its exe file for windows...not for ubuntu,.....
[05:29] <tripper> ok
[05:29] <tripper> no
[05:29] <tripper> wait
[05:29] <tripper> so
[05:29] <WeThePeople> myhero, http://developer.pidgin.im/wiki/vv
[05:30] <tripper> here's my problem
[05:30] <tripper> Audio doesn't work when logged in
[05:30] <tripper> but
[05:30] <Anusien>  Do I need to install a specific package to get the open source radeon drivers?
[05:30] <tripper> the GDM makes that little bongodrum sound thingy
[05:30] <robertzaccour> myhero: https://www.google.com/chat/video it works just fine within gmail
[05:30] <tripper> so obviously things are just screwy in my setting somewhere
[05:30] <tripper> what do
[05:31] <tripper> I want to be able to listen to music and stuff
[05:31] <WeThePeople> tripper, have you sudo apt-get upgrade yet?
[05:31] <Psi-Jack> Hmmm, interesting.
[05:31] <tripper> and the fact that the gdm intro sound works makes me curious
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:i think it uses radeon as default
[05:31] <Psi-Jack> Seems I've solved the whole "Authorization required..." issue
[05:31] <tprice> i just installed uec and im getting this error in the store "Error 60: server certificate verification failed. "
[05:31] <tripper> cos I mean in theory then sound should work
[05:31] <tripper> WeThePeople: Updating packages now.
[05:31] <tprice> i tried this but didnt work http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1837612
[05:32] <tprice> ay advice?
[05:32] <Elesa> It's taken about 25 minutes now..
[05:32] <thomedy> quick question i have a software packet .... for example lets just say blender put in a specific path... that i call with ~/... etc... i want to make ~/.. [the path] into a thing like ls where its just a command
[05:32] <WeThePeople> elesa, keep waitin
[05:32] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:ext4?
[05:32] <WeThePeople> 25 min isnt long
[05:32] <myhero1> what is the diff. between ubuntu 12.04 and 12.04.1
[05:32] <Elesa> Yes.
[05:32] <WeThePeople> 12.04.1 is newest
[05:33] <Elesa> myhero1: There's no difference, the latter is just Ubuntu 12.04 with all updates so far.
[05:33] <thomedy> im pretty sure thats just #!BASH or something like that and then the path in the bash script but then what how do i turn it  into a command i can call from anywhere
[05:33] <Elesa> lotuspsychje: it's ext4, yes.
[05:33] <Anusien> lotuspsychje: I am having some choppiness with mplayer/vlc that I can't explain any other way. SEtting cache doesn't help, and CPU is < 50%
[05:33] <myhero1> Elesa:  i have 12.04 installed so should i go for 12.04.1
[05:33] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:did you try unity2d?
[05:34] <Elesa> myhero1: They are the same, 12.04.1 just means that the ISO you download from the Ubuntu website has all the updates so far.
[05:34] <Elesa> You already have those updates.
[05:35] <myhero1> WeThePeople: any major update  ?? i have limited connection so i dont want to waste bandwidth.....so should i update sstem or continue with 12.04
[05:35] <myhero1> system*
[05:35] <Elesa> myhero1: I told you it's the same system.
[05:35] <WeThePeople> myhero1, its up to you
[05:35] <myhero1> Elesa: ok
[05:36] <Elesa> myhero1: 12.04.1 is 12.04 with all the updates you have. o_o
[05:36] <tprice> I have just installed UEC and im getting an error when i try to search for an image in the store.
[05:36] <tprice> I tried this but with no success. http://open.eucalyptus.com/forum/ser...#comment-19252
[05:36] <tprice> Error 60: server certificate verification failed.
[05:36] <tprice> Any advice on getting the UEC working?
[05:36] <FloodBot1> tprice: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:you could try ubuntu-restricted-extras and see if it helps
[05:36] <robertzaccour> When I installed the proprietary FGLRX driver and rebooted my display picture is off scale. The picture is smaller than the display parameters. Is there a way to fix scaling issues?
[05:37] <robertzaccour> myhero1: did ya try out the browser plugin for google talk video chat?
[05:37] <myhero1> Elesa: i dont have any update till now...coz i dont update coz as i told before i have limited connection....
[05:37] <WeThePeople> robertzaccour, type xrandr -s 0cin termial
[05:37] <Anusien> lotuspsychje: I don't understand what that would matter? And there seems to be an active bug saying unity2d makes media players flicker
[05:38] <WeThePeople> stop
[05:38] <robertzaccour> WeThePeople: what does that do?
[05:38] <WeThePeople> robertzaccour, stop
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:depending on what kinda video codec files you run on vlc, installing the extras can make a difference
[05:38] <WeThePeople> xrandr -s 0
[05:39] <Anusien> lotuspsychje: Some pretty basic stuff, honestly
[05:39] <Elesa> myhero1: What do you want to do? Update your PC? If that's what you want, you should just go to some place with fast internet and update via the Update Manager.
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:you got an older grafix card?
[05:39] <robertzaccour> WeThePeople: is that for screen scaling?
[05:39] <WeThePeople> yes
[05:39] <WeThePeople> resclaing
[05:39] <Anusien> ATI X1200, so no binary support from ATI
[05:39] <cael> im using xubuntu 11.04, though i have a question,  how can i stop it from blanking my laptop's screen like its powering it down? gets really annoying when watching streams and youtube.
[05:39] <WeThePeople> resolution
[05:39] <myhero1> robertzaccour: i have it...but i have not tried in on ubuntu.....but then still if it works then it will only have google network and yahoo and msn networks will be left behind.....so i want a chat lient which supports webcam and voice supporting yahoo, google and msn......nothing more.......
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> Anusien: i also got an older x800 got screen corruptions at boot
[05:40] <Elesa> Ugh, will that resizing operation finish some time?
[05:41] <rabbi1> how to disable upgrade in 12.04 ?
[05:41] <WeThePeople> myhero1, pidgin does
[05:41] <robertzaccour> myhero1: I don't think there's an app that supports all that in Windows or Linux outside of running each individual program. I know in Windows there's camfrog, with that you can share the same cam display in multiple IM clients.
[05:42] <myhero1> Elesa: ok..thnx dear...last question on 12.04.1....are there any major updates like anything concerning security or system stability and functioning ?? or i can continue with 12.04 without much worries....
[05:42] <mitrokov> Good afternoon experts ubuntu. Help please! have a weak computer needed an easy way to tell ubuntu distro that can advise novice
[05:42] <WeThePeople> robertzaccour, type xrandr -h in terminal for --help
[05:42] <cael> old/weak? use xubuntu
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !info lubuntu-desktop | mitrokov
[05:42] <Elesa> myhero1: installing 12.04.1 would be just like updating your current 12.04 via the Update Manager, so you have nothing to worry about! =D
[05:42] <WeThePeople> DSL
[05:42] <cfhowlett> mitrokov: lubuntu or xubuntu
[05:43] <robertzaccour> WeThePeople: ok thanks
[05:43] <WeThePeople> !info | DSL
[05:43] <Anusien> lotuspsychje: I found it, it's xserver-xorg-video-radeon
[05:43] <rabbi1> how to disable upgrade in 12.04 ?
[05:43] <mitrokov> ok thanks
[05:43] <cael> but anyone know how to stop screen sleeping? im getting tired of it when watching videos
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:can you tell me what to do?
[05:44] <cfhowlett> rabbi1: there is no automatic upgrade, so just don't upgrade
[05:44] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:found that x1200 bug also on the xorg, but not sure howto fix
[05:44] <cfhowlett> cael: in your system settings.  Change you time out/sleep behavior
[05:44] <luftikuss> How can I determine my current window manager?
[05:44] <Elesa> lotuspsychje: my PC's fan suddenly started spinning faster, so I guess you were right about GParted first reading the OS, and then creating the partition, which I believe is being done now.
[05:45] <Tico> Hi, someone knows how i can make ubuntu to boot with noapic automatic?
[05:45] <rabbi1> cfhowlett: i recently upgraded from 2.6 to 3.2 generic... that should be okay right? as my ubuntu was hanging quite often
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: you clean installed it now?
[05:46] <cael> thanks cfhowlett
[05:46] <Elesa> lotuspsychje: no, I wish. I haven't because this resizing thing has taken more than 30 minutes. Remember what I was saying about creating a new partition and moving /home there, then setting it as the new home in the installer?
[05:46] <cfhowlett> rabbi1: KERNEL upgrade?  different story.
[05:46] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:let me know how you fix that xorg-video
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:yes, partitioning can take a while
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !noapic
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> !nomodeset | Tico
[05:48] <myhero1> which is better lubuntu kubuntu xubuntu or ubuntu ?? i am not doing any voting or asking about preferences...but i wanna clean install so i wanna know.....coz i dont know which is better
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> Tico:there's a noapic section on there mate
[05:48] <HeadlessZombie> it all depends.
[05:48] <WeThePeople> ubuntu
[05:48] <Elesa> myhero1: Why do you want to reinstall?
[05:48] <Tico> lotuspsychje: oh okay :P
[05:48] <HeadlessZombie> i like xubuntu and kubuntu and ubuntu drives me nuts
[05:49] <HeadlessZombie> ubuntu is a nice jumping off point, but i never leave it as they have it out of the box
[05:49] <myhero1> Elesa: coz i have windows on hdd and this i am running libe from ubuntu stick
[05:50] <myhero1> live*
[05:50] <Elesa> myhero1: They are the same system, but with different desktop environments and apps by default, but they can be modified to look and be like the K, X and L variants.
[05:50] <Tico> lotuspsychje: but how do i make it to execute by it self and not me typing noapic everytime i boot ubuntu?
[05:50] <Elesa> myhero1: it all depends on how you like to use your PC, do you find the Ubuntu interface useful and productive for you?
[05:50] <cfhowlett> myhero1: suggest you install virtualbox on windows and try out all your options before you install to the hdd
[05:51] <Elesa> ^^
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> Tico:add it to etc/default/grub
[05:51] <myhero1> yeah i use ubuntu and find it gud...but occasionally i find it stucking on some load
[05:51] <Tico> lotuspsychje: in ubuntu?
[05:52] <Elesa> myhero1: Any OS in a Live USB will behave a bit slower than if it was installed on a hard drive.
[05:52] <cfhowlett> Elesa: exactomundo
[05:52] <myhero1> cfhowlett: thnx...but still the same question...if somebody who has used all can suggest which is better coz i cant decide on just lil time of using it and on look and feel...
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Tico:yes add the boot command you like and update-grub after and reboot
[05:53] <myhero1> Elesa: thats surprising...i thought usb respone time is better then hdd
[05:53] <cfhowlett> myhero1: EXACTLY why I suggested you install virtualbox for windows, install ubuntu to virtual box and try out the different flavors.
[05:53] <Tico> lotuspsychje: okey thanks for the help :)
[05:54] <Tico> lotuspsychje: okey thanks for the help :)
[05:54] <tprice> should i use 10.04 for UEC or 12.04?
[05:54] <Tico> lotuspsychje: cya*
[05:54] <Elesa> myhero1: What cfhowlett said. xD
[05:55] <Elesa> Sheesh..
[05:55] <Elesa> Why is this thing so slow.. ._.
[05:56] <lotuspsychje> Elesa: anything interesting in /var/log/syslog?
[05:56] <pepperjack> myhero1: of course you can install them on natively and choose which to log into as well
[05:56] <myhero1> cfhowlett: thats no help....that will take some time...and os performance cant be judged in lil time.......i asked if anyone has used them and can suggest which is better.....
[05:57] <myhero1> i have used ubuntu so far with xfce kde and lxde installed on it
[05:57] <Elesa> lotuspsychje: Well, what should I look for?
[05:57] <cfhowlett> myhero1: better/best means nothing as it is all subjective.  I've used all.  I chose what works best for me and my machine.  That said, install one version and add the different desktop managers and try them all out.
[05:57] <lotuspsychje> Elesa:some usb drives being slow can leave errors on there, look at the bottom of syslog
[05:58] <Elesa> myhero1: then it's the same thing, use whichever has your favorite desktop environment, be it XFCE, KDE, or LXDE, don't like it? Then install a new desktop environment.
[05:58] <lotuspsychje> myhero1:this is a support channel, not a performance quiz..move on the ubuntu problems
[05:59] <pepperjack> myhero1: well xfce and lxde have similar dependencies so the comparison would really be between them, unity(default ubuntu) and kubuntu.  personally i prefer kde or a ligher gtk environment like xfce or lxde
[05:59] <myhero1> cfhowlett: the reason i am asking this is coz i have see ubuntu getting stuck many times with no response at all so that i have t boot it up to work again.....so performance and stability is what i prefer rather then look and feel
[05:59] <Elesa> myhero1: I'd choose Xubuntu then.
[05:59] <myhero1> Elesa: THNX
[05:59] <Elesa> myhero1: Good balance between performance and looks, but performance overall.
[05:59] <Elesa> Np. xD
[06:00] <Elesa> lotuspsychje: Okie.
[06:00] <cfhowlett> myhero1: inclined to agree.  XFCE has been very well behaved on my system.
[06:00] <myhero1> Elesa: yeah...if lloks are gud then its better but i dont wanna compromise performance for nothing
[06:00] <myhero1> cfhowlett: thnx
[06:01] <Elesa> myhero1: then you'll like it, because Xubuntu can be pretty, too. :D
[06:01] <myhero1> so now i m inclining towards xubntu....
[06:01] <lotuspsychje> Anusien:still here mate?
[06:02] <myhero> srry i got dc......any msgs inbetween ??
[06:03] <Elesa> myhero1: Ubuntu is mostly for newer PC's, it's not meant to be installed in a 10 years old machine, just like you'd expect with Windows 7 or Mac OS X: Mountain Lion, even if Ubuntu has lower requirements. Kubuntu is also a good option for newer PC's, but it's a bit bloated IMO and it can be a bit complicated if you prefer simplicity over customizing EVERYTHING, and Lubuntu is a excellent option for older systems, as it's blazing fast.
[06:04] <htmlinprogress> hi
[06:04] <Elesa> myhero: And Xubuntu has the best of the two worlds, good looks and fast performance while keeping compatible with most never stuff and not compromising anything.
[06:04] <myhero> Elesa: thnx
[06:04] <luftikuss> How can I determine my current window manager?
[06:04] <myhero> i have old and new systems both with laptops and desktops
[06:04] <Psi-Jack> luftikuss: ps
[06:05] <wilee-nilee> luftikuss, what is the desktop?
[06:05] <myhero> currently i m on quad core i3 hp g6 lappy
[06:05] <rabbi1> cfhowlett: yeah, ok.... now how can i test for this hanging problem ?
[06:05] <lotuspsychje> luftikuss: echo $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP
[06:06] <Elesa> myhero: just go for Xubuntu then. If you want to use Unity, just use sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop or download it from the Software Center or Synaptic if you don't feel comfortable in the command line.
[06:06] <myhero> i m confortable with terminal
[06:07] <myhero> and does xubuntu supports ubuntu repos ??
[06:07] <lotuspsychje> luftikuss:full info env on terminal
[06:07] <Elesa> It uses the same repos!
[06:07] <stripe> hi all is this the ubuntu help channel?
[06:07] <Elesa> stripe: It is.
[06:07] <Psi-Jack> stripe: Nope. That's down the hall and to the right.
[06:07] <myhero> lol
[06:08] <Elesa> Don't worry about repositories, all Ubuntu variants share the same repos.
[06:08] <myhero> psycho joke....looks like he is gone to other gully....
[06:09] <stripe> thanks Elesa , does anyone know how to change the resolution of the log in screen in 12.04.1, the desktop is controlled by the nvidia panel
[06:09] <myhero> Elesa: ok...bu ti saw many apps repos available like for ubuntu for xubutnu for kubuntu.....etc
[06:09] <Elesa> myhero: huh?
[06:09] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | stripe
[06:10] <Elesa> !synaptic
[06:10] <almaak> why is it i can allways log into #ubuntu servers but never any other irc servers??
[06:10] <myhero> Elesa: for example...ubuntu restricted xtras...then xubuntu restricted xtras...then kubuntu restricted xtras....
[06:11] <lotuspsychje> almaak:what error you getting trying connecting?
[06:11] <Elesa> myhero: you could just look for restricted extras in the Software Center.
[06:11] <myhero> Elesa: so if i save debs for ubuntnu restricted xtras then they will be installed on xubuntu or not ???
[06:12] <Elesa> They will, but I'd just get xubuntu-restricted-extras o.o
[06:13] <myhero> Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to myhero1) from frigg.......what does this mean ???
[06:13] <stripe> ubottu, I am only running one screen, its just when I want to change the user the login screen is unusable due to the resolution of the login screen being to big for my screen (bits hanging over the edge)
[06:13] <myhero> lol
[06:13] <stripe> lol
[06:13] <Elesa> LOL
[06:13] <Elesa> Wow.. xD
[06:14] <raymond> I'm trying to get seamlessrdp working with windows 7.  I'm having problem getting the "-s" option working with rdesktop connecting to my vm, it seems to ignore the -s option, even though I'm giving a valid path to the seamlessrdp.exe program.  I've tried googling but I couldn't find a solution... I scoured the group policy editor looking for an option I could turn on... and nothing. Has anyone had this problem before?
[06:14] <myhero> ubottu should also send his intro with his intelligent msg coz newbies dont understand how intelligent it is....
[06:14] <N03l> zgr: hello
[06:14] <myhero> lol
[06:14] <Psi-Jack> raymond: ##windows is your channel for that.
[06:15] <robertzaccour> How come in Ubuntu when I install gnome-shell, right-click works just fine on the desktop, but in ubuntu gnome-shell remix it does not?
[06:16] <Elesa> robertzaccour: Honestly, I think GNOME Shell is a joke, and a pretty toy. >__>
[06:16] <Elesa> robertzaccour: Where is double click not working? Desktop? Top panel?
[06:17] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, you install the remix or ubuntu, it doesn't go on ubuntu I believe.
[06:17] <robertzaccour> Elesa: right clicking on the wallpaper itself to bring up option settings
[06:17] <Elesa> robertzaccour: Guess what.. GNOME SHELL HAS NO DESKTOP! YAY! .__.
[06:17] <myhero> Elesa: what u'll say about mint....someone just suggested it in pm
[06:17] <Elesa> You have to change it on System Settings.
[06:18] <toobluesc> do it
[06:18] <robertzaccour> Elesa: it works fine when insstalled on Ubuntu, but not in Gnome Shell Remix itself. What could the difference be?
[06:18] <robertzaccour> *installed
[06:18] <niranjan> Hi there, trying to use find command to find executable in my project. Using find . -executable -name "whatIamLooking" but it includes directories. How do I exclude directories
[06:18] <someprimetime> i just reconfigured my postfix settings and added the domain that i'm sending mail from to the list of allowed domains that mail will be sent from and i'm finding that using php's mail() still sends all my emails to my spam folder
[06:19] <Elesa> Oh.. I don't know, older GNOME Shell version maybe? I haven't used it a lot, so I'm just guessing, sorry. But honestly, if you want to use GNOME 3 in a better way, just install Cinnamon.
[06:19] <Elesa> myhero: that is a good option too.
[06:19] <smw> niranjan, -type f ?
[06:19] <smw> niranjan, that is what comes off the top of my head.
[06:19] <niranjan> smw: Thanks it works, feel so stuipd, I knew about -f
[06:19] <wilee-nilee> bad advice with a user not even knowing what the other is talking about Elesa
[06:19] <myhero> Elesa: yea..he suggested mint with cinnamon
[06:19] <niranjan> Thanks
[06:19] <codemaniac> niranjan: your find commandline searches into the current dir only .
[06:20] <niranjan> Yes, I know which directory to look for
[06:20] <niranjan> But its too deep
[06:20] <codemaniac> niranjan: you need to orivide the path to find
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> this is gnome-shell-remix and it is not supported here. http://ubuntu-gs-remix.sourceforge.net/p/download/
[06:21] <codemaniac> find /path/to/dir like that
[06:21] <robertzaccour> Elesa: I don't really like cinnamon or unity tbh
[06:21] <niranjan> codemaniac: thank you.
[06:21] <codemaniac> find /path/to/dir -name "binfile" -print like that
[06:21] <myhero> robertzaccour: y not...any problems with cinnamon ?? unity i can understand...
[06:21] <Elesa> myhero: Does your graphics card support 3D acceleration?
[06:21] <jeep> robertzaccour: fluxbox is what ubuntu users use when they get older ;)
[06:22] <myhero> Elesa:  yeah.....it seems so ...its xfx raedeon hd4870
[06:22] <Elesa> Is it normal for a simple partition resize to take more than 1 hour? I'm resizing a 300 GB partition to 150 GB >_>
[06:23] <Elesa> myhero: you could try it then, but Linux Mint with Cinnamon is not supported here. xD
[06:23] <robertzaccour> myhero: I just prefer gnome-shell. I love how its so simplistic and "out of the way". Also like being able to click on something, drag it into the upper left corner, and drop it into one of the "expose style" windows of open apps displayed on the screen.
[06:24] <myhero> robertzaccour: i agree...
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, I would use the ubuntu install of gnome-shell the remix ix not supported here.
[06:24] <wilee-nilee> is*
[06:25] <myhero> Elesa: pm..
[06:25] <danny> what was the last Ubuntu release to ship with plain old Gnome 2?
[06:25] <Elesa> 11.04
[06:26] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: I know, I was just curious why shell is slightly more functional when installed in Ubuntu than in Ubuntu Gnome Shell Remix itself. The right-clicking on the desktop wallpaper I mean.
[06:26] <danny> thanks Elesa
[06:27] <SorcererX> anyone experienced Ubuntu LTS 12.04.1 making a system completely unable to post? I have two laptops (Samsung 530U3C that I booted from a USB stick created from usb-creator-gtk out of the ubuntu iso) and when I pressed "Install" in grub, the system just worked for a while, showed a blank screen.. and I had to use the button to power it down, and the system never showed the BIOS screen when the power button was pressed (the power LED do
[06:27] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, Install the gnome-tweak tool it may be something to do with nautilus controlling the desktop, there is a switch in the tweak.
[06:27] <Elesa> Yes?
[06:27] <Psi-Jack> SorcererX: Unable to "post?"
[06:27] <SorcererX> so I thought I had a faulty laptop, got a new one, tried the Ubuntu install, and that system is now unpostable too
[06:27] <SorcererX> Psi-Jack: it does not show the Samsung BIOS screen
[06:27] <Elesa> danny: for what?
[06:27] <SorcererX> the screen does not turn on
[06:27] <Psi-Jack> SorcererX: That's not related to Linux at all.
[06:27] <robertzaccour> wilee-nilee: oh ok thanks. I plan on adding the min/max buttons anyways
[06:28] <SorcererX> Psi-Jack: that is what I thought, untill I tried to install it on a second laptop
[06:28] <SorcererX> but yes, I doubt it is Linuxs fault, but there must be something weird that it does
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> robertzaccour, I wiuld support you here but some might not is all. ;)
[06:28] <Psi-Jack> SorcererX: Should look into BIOS updates.
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> would*
[06:28] <SorcererX> Psi-Jack: it is not possible to update the BIOS, the system does not get that far.
[06:28] <danny> Elesa, i asked what the last ubuntu release to ship with plain old gnome 2 was and you said 11.0.4
[06:29] <raymond> SorcererX, so, you're not getting any logo at all?
[06:29] <tiger_> how do i disable journaling in xfs ?
[06:29] <Elesa> danny: oh right.. lol, no problem!
[06:29] <Psi-Jack> tiger_: ALways a horrible idea.
[06:29] <SorcererX> raymond: no, no power to the screen, and external display shows nothing
[06:30] <raymond> SorcererX, wow.  tried the battery trick?  Unplug the laptop, pop out the battery.  Hold the power button down for about 30 seconds to a minute, then plug the laptop in w/o the battery and try to turn it on.
[06:30] <tiger_> Psi-Jack: Have any idea ?
[06:30] <SorcererX> raymond: I am guessing it must have wrote something to the internal SSD (not user serviceable) that the system just refuses to start from, that is about the only thing that is writeable
[06:30] <SorcererX> raymond: yes, I have tried that too
[06:30] <Psi-Jack> tiger_: You don't. XFS is a journaling filesystem.
[06:30] <if124> tiger_ : Why would you want to do that
[06:30] <if124> ?
[06:31] <Elesa> Is it normal for a simple partition resize to take more than 1 hour? I'm resizing a 300 GB partition to 150 GB >_>
[06:31] <SorcererX> Elesa: yes.
[06:32] <Elesa> =/
[06:32] <tiger_> Psi-Jack: I had my gentoo system installed on flash driver
[06:32] <SorcererX> raymond: I suppose I will have to send an email to Samsung first, as there is no point in getting a third laptop and having the same thing happen again. heh
[06:32] <scott_z> does anyone know anything about the classicmenu-indicator?
[06:32] <if124> tiger_: see this email http://oss.sgi.com/archives/xfs/2009-01/msg01155.html
[06:32] <Psi-Jack> tiger_: That's nice. Point?
[06:32] <tiger_> Psi-Jack: with xfs
[06:33] <Psi-Jack> tiger_: And?
[06:33] <tiger_> and I dont want have hight i/o operation
[06:34] <Psi-Jack> tiger_: That's nice. But XFS is a journaling filesystem. The journal is /part/ of it, unlike ext3/4 where it's optional.
[06:34] <napster> Elesa: If you have data in that partition it could take time
[06:34] <Psi-Jack> journaling doesn't really add any i/o overhead, either.
[06:34] <Elesa> well, it has 148 GB of data
[06:35] <DanTheBeastMan> My wireless is running on eth0, any idea how to change it to wlan0?
[06:35] <napster> Elesa: So it will take time usually
[06:35] <tiger_> Psi-Jack: Ok,  maybe i can changed it to ext4 filesystem.
[06:36] <napster> DanTheBeastMan: Why should you do that?
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> Elesa, Yeah especially if you reduce it to 2 gigs more than the data, not a wise move really, any partition should be at the most abot 70% full to run efficiently.
[06:36] <freezys> DanTheBeastMan, same problem with me :(
[06:37] <DanTheBeastMan> napster: well for one, a few programs I use won't measure signal strenth from what it thinks is a wired connection
[06:37] <Elesa> wilee-nilee: I see.. I just wanted to copy /home from it to a new partition and tell the installer to use that new partition as /home.. sigh
[06:37] <DanTheBeastMan> interestingly, Debian and Arch all configure it correctly on wlan0
[06:38] <napster> DanTheBeastMan: Its actually just a nam
[06:38] <napster> *name
[06:38] <wilee-nilee> Elesa, You will probably be okay it just takes awhile to resize that much.
[06:39] <Elesa> I hope so, because I'm growing tired..
[06:40] <lauratika> can open vpn make some websites wont load at all?
[06:41] <myhero1> Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to myhero1) from frigg....what it means...coming everytime i connect with irc network
[06:41] <DanTheBeastMan> well, neither conky or awesome correctly display wireless strength when wireless is running on ethX. boot into Debian, wireless runs on wlan0, both programs work as expected
[06:42] <lauratika> is there a openvpn channel?
[06:43] <Elesa> And it's done! <3
[06:46] <codemaniac> myhero1: it is a utility bot at this network , nothing to worry about
[06:46] <ramsrambo> trying to install ubuntu on a HDD with win 7 prof and Win 8 on VHD --- Ubuntu does not recognize any partitions on the win HDD need help
[06:46] <myhero1> ok
[06:47] <johnjacobjingerh> omg something terrible just happened... i bought a brand new Dell Precision M4700... i was so excited to finally get it and of course right away got ubuntu ready.. well long story short on my way up the stairs to go get my ubuntu disk.. i was carrying my laptop and all of the sudden i dropped it and it tumbled 3 flights of stairs... now it's all messed up
[06:47] <johnjacobjingerh> :-(
[06:47] <codemaniac> it checks if your irc client has some sucurity flaws myhero1
[06:47] <myhero1> ok
[06:48] <jeep> johnjacobjingerh: is the ubuntu disk ok ?
[06:48] <myhero1> codemaniac: so how i know if there is any flaw into it or not ?
[06:48] <johnjacobjingerh> jeep.. yes
[06:48] <myhero1> Received CTCP 'VERSION' (to myhero1) from frigg
[06:48] <codemaniac> myhero1: you dont need to , frigg will tell if you have one
[06:48] <codemaniac> :)
[06:48] <johnjacobjingerh> dell not so much...  good thing i took the accidental protection
[06:49] <myhero1> coellobranco: if it doent tells anything then it means i m ok......and before i never got that message
[06:49] <johnjacobjingerh> but they want me to send it into the repair place to get fixed
[06:49] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[06:49] <johnjacobjingerh> bleh
[06:49] <myhero1> codemaniac:  if it doent tells anything then it means i m ok......and before i never got that message
[06:49] <jeep> johnjacobjingerh: so in a week or two when you have it back .. then you can install ubuntu
[06:49] <Elesa> I have a big question, why does Nautilus say that this computer's two home folders are like 60 GB together, yet they are 142 GB when I try to copy them? >__>
[06:49] <johnjacobjingerh> yea, but i remember dell use to come to u to fix it
[06:49] <codemaniac> myhero1: its ok if it does not twll anything ,
[06:49] <ramsrambo> trying to install ubuntu on a HDD with win 7 prof and Win 8 on VHD --- Ubuntu does not recognize any partitions on the win HDD need help
[06:49] <johnjacobjingerh> :-\
[06:49] <Elesa> Deja Dup's backup was even less than that.
[06:50] <myhero1> codemaniac: ok
[06:50] <randi> hey guys/gals.. happen to be any wifi gurus in here?
[06:50] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsramdo what is the virtual program u are using?
[06:50] <codemaniac> it was brought back from sleep after some years :)
[06:50] <randi> I have checked out every website on the interwebz trying to figure soemthing out
[06:50] <ShapeShifter499> I see ubuntu just released the newest kernel 3.5 on ubuntu 12.04 is this different then the 3.5 found at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/?
[06:50] <ramsrambo> john: I am using a VHD
[06:51] <DanTheBeastMan> randi: what is your problem
[06:51] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsrambo, yes.. what created the vhd? VMWARE? Virtual PC? VBOX?
[06:51] <myhero1> randi: wer u frm ??
[06:51] <randi> I am currently not getting an option for wireless at all and when I run iwconfig wlan0 does not show up
[06:51] <randi> atlanta
[06:51] <ramsrambo> John: microsoft win 7
[06:51]  * johnjacobjingerh smacks head
[06:52] <ramsrambo> john : created the VHD
[06:52] <jeep> ShapeShifter499: im gonna guess different
[06:52] <randi> myhero1: lol don't tell me that I know you
[06:52] <jeep> ShapeShifter499: kernels are pretty easy to compile try the newest from kernel.org its fun !
[06:52] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsrambo are you trying to run ubuntu inside Windows?
[06:52] <DanTheBeastMan> randi: post results of `lspci|grep -i network`
[06:52] <Elesa> I have a big question, why does Nautilus say that this computer's two home folders are like 60 GB together, yet they are 142 GB when I try to copy them? >__>
[06:52] <myhero1> randi: lo...no not at all
[06:52] <myhero1> lol*
[06:52] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsrambo, i.e. at the same time as windows in side a virtual machine
[06:53] <randi> DanTheBeastMan, nothing shows up at all
[06:53] <Aussie_Matt> hi all, does anyone have experience with software raid?
[06:54] <ramsrambo> john :  no a seprate partition was created with disk mgmt in Win 7
[06:54] <johnjacobjingerh> ah yea.. dont do that
[06:54] <DanTheBeastMan> randi: pastebin `lspci -kvv`
[06:54] <johnjacobjingerh> that wont work ramsrambo... they are VIRTUAL hard disks
[06:54] <ShapeShifter499> jeep, would this mean that its has been edited for better ubuntu compatibility now since its release at  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?
[06:54] <johnjacobjingerh> they arent real.. u want to partition the hard drive with gparted or something
[06:55] <ramsrambo> john :  well I able to dual boot my machine from VHD
[06:55] <johnjacobjingerh> no you cant
[06:55] <johnjacobjingerh> vhds are for virtual machines
[06:55] <johnjacobjingerh> u are not running it inside windows, you want to run it seperately
[06:55] <ramsrambo> john :  I have been booting that from a long time now
[06:55] <ShapeShifter499> I'm just looking for the best and newest
[06:55] <DanTheBeastMan> it is possible to have grub boot a virtualbox image
[06:56] <jeep> ShapeShifter499: only way to know is to read the changelog
[06:56] <jeep> ShapeShifter499: its safe to assume they wouldnt make it worse
[06:56] <johnjacobjingerh> i dont understand how that can be ramsrambo
[06:56] <ramsrambo> john :  when I start my machine I am prompted with a selection menu for Win 7 and Win 8
[06:57] <johnjacobjingerh> ok well perhaps VHD is the wrong term then?
[06:57] <johnjacobjingerh> cuz a VHD is a "Virtual Hard Drive"
[06:57] <johnjacobjingerh> usually used by virtual machines...
[06:57] <randi> DanTheBeastMan, http://pastebin.com/3TN4wYXa
[06:57] <johnjacobjingerh> u have actual physical partitions
[06:57] <ramsrambo> John :  that is corrected it is mounted as VHD in disk mgmt and assigned a drive letter
[06:58] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsrambo, have u tried to see the partitions with gparted before installing with windows?
[06:58] <mohit> hi, I sometimes cannot load ubuntu during startup,  it gets stuck at ubuntu loading screen for long time, untill i restart. I am having dual boot: ubuntu 12.04 and windows 7 on sony vaio vpceh.  Moreover, I loads up on the restart.
[06:58] <ShapeShifter499> jeep but I'm kind of scared of touching my system now, I installed the latest 3.6 you can find at  http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ plus the bleeding edge graphics from the xorg-edgers PPA and I'm crossing my fingers but I haven't had a crash or unexpected shutdown yet
[06:58] <ramsrambo> John : on the physical drive it will be one huge file only on the NTFS
[06:58] <Elesa> I have a big question, why does Nautilus say that this computer's two home folders are like 60 GB together, yet they are 142 GB when I try to copy them? >__>
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> yes exactly cuz you didnt make physical partitions ramsrambo
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> you made VIRTUAL partitions
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> which only windows 7 can see
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> since thats what you created them in
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> u need to physically partition the drive
[06:59] <johnjacobjingerh> not use VHD
[07:00] <ramsrambo> John : it is 1 single disk of 500gb
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> yes so partition it
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> with gparted
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> VHD is not what you think it is
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> it's virtually partitioning it, not physically partition it
[07:00] <ramsrambo> john : so I shrunk the partition to get the free space and I made that free space as vhd and mounted it on disk mgmt
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> yes but inside WINDOWS
[07:00] <johnjacobjingerh> that wont work
[07:01] <johnjacobjingerh> cuz it's not a real partition
[07:01] <johnjacobjingerh> it's virtual
[07:01] <johnjacobjingerh> only windows can see
[07:01] <FloodBot1> johnjacobjingerh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[07:01] <jeep> ShapeShifter499: you should be fine  if there is somethign drastic gonna happen its usually at boot
[07:01] <ramsrambo> john : I have made it bootable and it is working fine
[07:01] <johnjacobjingerh> unless someone here corrects me
[07:01] <johnjacobjingerh> but i'm sure using disk management to partition it wont work like that (if it's a VHD)
[07:02] <randi> DanTheBeastMan, I am using a Netgear WNDA3100 v2 usb wifi adapter if that helps at all
[07:02] <ramsrambo> john : I have again shrunk the HDD to get free space of 40 gb
[07:02] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsrambo, you said it wasnt working?
[07:02] <ramsrambo> John : I want ubuntu to be installed on this free space of 40gb
[07:02] <DanTheBeastMan> randi: oh snaps, well this explains a lot. I trust you've googled for linux drivers?
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> if gparted is only sees it as 1 whole 500GB then you didnt partition it
[07:03] <randi> yes
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> hence why you cant install ubuntu the way you want to
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> best to create the partitions with gparted
[07:03] <ramsrambo> john : when I boot to live CD ubuntu is not recognizing that free space or any partition created in Windows
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> not windows disk manager
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> yes cuz it was created in Windows
[07:03] <randi> DanTheBeastMan, I've seen about a thousand different ways to fix it but none have worked
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> they arent really there
[07:03] <johnjacobjingerh> only windows can see them, thats how virtual hard drives work
[07:04] <ShapeShifter499> jeep, I'll give them a test then
[07:04] <johnjacobjingerh> you didnt make it a physical or logical partition
[07:04] <ramsrambo> John : but the partitions are existing on that HDD
[07:04] <ShapeShifter499> I'll leave the 3.6 installed just in case, so I can go back to those if something goes wrong
[07:04] <johnjacobjingerh> no they aren't only in windows
[07:04] <johnjacobjingerh> windows is FAKING them
[07:04] <randi> DanTheBeastMan, I last tried the windows drivers straight from netgears website and installing with ndiswrapper
[07:04] <johnjacobjingerh> hence why no other partition utility can see them
[07:05] <johnjacobjingerh> try it with gparted you'll see the difference
[07:05] <ramsrambo> John :  nope How do I make that physical or logical now?
[07:05] <johnjacobjingerh> well for one i'd remove the 40GB you created in windows from within windows
[07:05] <johnjacobjingerh> get it back to one partition if you can
[07:05] <DanTheBeastMan> randi: ndiswrapper will be your best bet. there is likely no other way to get them working. if it were me I'd invest in a new adapter.
[07:06] <johnjacobjingerh> then boot from gparted and create the partition and format it as EXT4
[07:06] <randi> any recommendations?
[07:06] <johnjacobjingerh> it wont delete any files it'll just physically partition the disk for you
[07:06] <johnjacobjingerh> u just tell it how large you want it to be
[07:06] <ramsrambo> John : from the live CD I have opened the gparted and it does not see any partition at all
[07:06] <johnjacobjingerh> just one right?
[07:06] <tking> when i boot into gnome it i can't see the dashboard and task manager. and contrl + alt +  t doesn't bring out terminal. It takes time to load things. So i just tried booting into gnome classic to be able to do anything and connect to the internet
[07:07] <johnjacobjingerh> if it only sees one just right click on it and click resize.. shrink it so that the unallocated space becomes 40GB
[07:07] <ramsrambo> john : no solution other than formating the HDD and create partitions for each from gparted ?
[07:08] <johnjacobjingerh> but ramsrambo before you do that u want to make sure windows has the VHD removed... it will suck to have to remove it later
[07:08] <johnjacobjingerh> ramsrambo, what you dont need to format
[07:08] <johnjacobjingerh> are you reading what i wrote
[07:08] <johnjacobjingerh> resize the 500 GB partition
[07:08] <ramsrambo> ok!
[07:08] <johnjacobjingerh> resize the 500GB to 460GB
[07:08] <johnjacobjingerh> you will be left with an unallocated partition of 40GB
[07:08] <ramsrambo> kk!
[07:09] <johnjacobjingerh> but before you resize in gparted remove the partition in Windows
[07:09] <johnjacobjingerh> otherwise it'll be a mess when you go back to windows
[07:09] <ramsrambo> sure I will
[07:09] <ramsrambo> thanks john
[07:09] <mohit> why doesn't ubuntu fails to load during startup?
[07:10] <johnjacobjingerh> in Gparted it shows how much of the 500GB is currently used... you cant resize below that obviously
[07:12] <raymond> mohit, new install?
[07:16] <tking> please how do i fix ubuntu gnome? dash doesn't come up on boot and also task bar doesn't load
[07:18] <Happy_Larry> hi
[07:18] <mao> hi , how to get a sn for a dell poweredge service from shell
[07:18] <mao> hi , how to get sn for a dell poweredge service from shell
[07:19] <Happy_Larry> sn?
[07:19] <mao> serial number
[07:19] <mao> Happy_Larry: serial number
[07:20] <Happy_Larry> sorry dont know :(
[07:21] <aab> what is a kernel header?
[07:22] <cihhan> Anyone using Sigar?
[07:25] <Happy_Larry> Kernel headers are the C listing of uncompiled kernel
[07:26] <bekks> Happy_Larry: Not exactly ;) That would be the source itself.
[07:29] <sulaiman> Hi, how can I install the git-daemon in ubuntu?
[07:32] <cihhan> Is there anyone who has ever used Sigar or collectl for monitoring the resource usage?
[07:41] <tking> how do i check the version of gnome?
[07:44] <codemaniac> tking: gnome-shell --version
[07:53] <mithran> hai i am using linux in my office. There is a firewall in ou network server named keriocontroll. It blocks my sites.Kerio is a windows based software. how can i proxy it
[07:54] <mithran> am Usung UBUNTU 12.04 LTS
[07:59] <mithran> can you help[ me
[08:05] <ssta> mithran: you can try ntlmaps (works for websense), but I've never seen keriocontrol in action, so it might not there
[08:11] <tking> how do i paste a screenshot here
[08:12] <mathi> hi
[08:12] <mathi> how can I check if I have cUrl installed ?
[08:13] <gordonjcp> mathi: type in curl and hit return
[08:13] <tking> Neo17 please how do i paste screenshot here?
[08:13] <Calinou> tking, upload to a place like imgur.com
[08:13] <mathi> gordonjcp, thanks!
[08:14] <mathi> gordonjcp, is this correct to do?   sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev
[08:14] <gordonjcp> mathi: depends what you're trying to do
[08:14] <gordonjcp> are you trying to compile something that uses curl?
[08:14] <mathi> gordonjcp, http://www.asteriskdocs.org/en/3rd_Edition/asterisk-book-html-chunk/IVR_id246940.html
[08:15] <mathi> it is written there
[08:15] <mathi> but I'm afraid that it would install an old version, not sure if they update the docs for that
[08:15] <gordonjcp> mathi: yeah, that'll work
[08:15] <gordonjcp> it should pull in a bunch of stuff
[08:15] <tking> http://imgur.com/7BEFE please can someone help me i can't see the launcher and nautilus... all i see is Activities. everything has gone hidden under Activities when i reboot
[08:15] <mathi> gordonjcp, what is pull in?
[08:16] <gordonjcp> it will install lots of other things
[08:16] <mathi> ah oki
[08:16] <mathi> gordonjcp, what about the version 4 ?
[08:16] <mathi> i see on curl website it's like 7
[08:17] <bekks> mathi: Then take a look at the version of that package: 7.22
[08:17] <bekks> Pretty current I'd say. :)
[08:19] <mathi> anyway when I try the comand from the docs: sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev, I get: "libcurl4-openssl-dev is already the newest version."
[08:19] <mathi> and if I type curl in the command line, I get:
[08:19] <bekks> mathi: Then the latest version from the repos is installed.
[08:19] <mathi> The program 'curl' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing:
[08:19] <mathi> sudo apt-get install curl
[08:19] <mathi> ah
[08:20] <mathi> bekks, then why it says curl is not installed ?
[08:22] <tking> http://imgur.com/7BEFE please can someone help me i can't see the launcher and nautilus... all i see is Activities. everything has gone hidden under Activities when i reboot
[08:23] <bekks> because "libcurl..." does not provide "curl".
[08:23] <bekks> at least the -dev packages dont do.
[08:24] <baizon> tking: this isnt unity, ist gnome-shell
[08:24] <user82> tking i do not exactly understand the question...the launcher=the side bar with app icons(i assume) and what do you mean by "got hidden under activities"
[08:24] <bekks> mathi: apt-get install curl
[08:25] <mathi> bekks, ok I am installing, but I wonder why in asterisk docs only "sudo apt-get install libcurl4-openssl-dev" is mentionned
[08:25] <bekks> mathi: Because the need the -dev ackage contents maybe.
[08:27] <mathi> thank you for helping:)
[08:29] <tking> user82 i think am in gnome shell, i want to go back to unity
[08:30] <user82> uh yes tking....that solves the "problem". and explains why i was confused
[08:31] <tking> user82 normally, i see nautilus, launcher but for some reason all that disappeared and changed to this ACTIVITIES screen thing maybe its called Gnome Shell as i have searched, but I cant swtich bacl any idea or help?
[08:32] <user82> tking log out and then above your name in the logon screen there should be a round icon
[08:33] <user82> tking http://cdn-static.zdnet.com/i/story/40/10/024840/trk-lightdm.jpg
[08:33] <user82> then choose "ubuntu"
[08:36] <tking> user82 thanks, i have done it, but i lost my settings and usually by default i think i am in Gnome maybe
[08:37] <tking> before, i am able to see  goto desktop and i have made icons in launcher smaller, but sellecting ubuntu, i lost all settings
[08:37] <user82> tking for me it saves the last setting automatically. maybe there is some setting that always gets you into gnome but i do not know where to find it...
[08:38] <rymate1234> hey guys
[08:38] <rymate1234> I want a global menu bar in xfce
[08:38] <rymate1234> Like there is in unity
[08:38] <user82> tking are you sure you chose "ubuntu" and not "ubuntu 2d"?
[08:38] <rymate1234> How would one achieve this?
[08:39] <tking> user82 http://askubuntu.com/questions/79731/how-can-i-switch-between-gnome-shell-and-unity-without-logging-off this is what i did
[08:39] <PeterGriffin> How can I find out which version of apache is installed on the system?
[08:40] <bekks> apache2 -v
[08:40] <PeterGriffin> bekks: Thank you :)
[08:40] <user82> tking uhm yeah the thing with --replace is that it is temporarily. so when you reboot it has saved the setting "i used gnome last time"
[08:40] <tking> what you asked me to do, i have done it before. It worked. but its different from how i have been using it in the past 5months because, i have compiz installed and amy customization are active. All that i lost when i did a reboot and didn't know how i got to the Gnome-Shell
[08:41] <user82> the proper solution might me to log-on again(or reboot but not needed log out log in does the job)
[08:41] <tking> ok
[08:41] <mathi> bekks, it seems I need to recompile asterisk after instzlling curl module, I need to type make, then make install somewhere, but I have no idea where to execute these
[08:42] <bekks> mathi: I never used asterisk, sorry.
[08:42] <theadmin> mathi: Wherever the source-code is located.
[08:44] <dipole_> 0qu9
[08:45] <rymate1234> I shall reiterate my question
[08:45] <rymate1234> I wish to have a global menu like in unity on xfce. How would I go about doing this? I am running ubuntu 12.04
[08:46] <theadmin> rymate1234: There is xfce4-globalmenu, but I suppose it's not in the repos. Also, I think it doesn't work with recent Xfce versions (might be fixed by now though)
[08:46] <rymate1234> ok thankks
[08:46] <rymate1234> where could I find the source code for it?
[08:47] <theadmin> rymate1234: Try searching for it, never been a fan of globalmenu myself
[08:47] <rymate1234> found it
[08:52] <cebor> can i add a seccond hostname to /etc/hosts ? and is this available in network ??
[08:52] <bekks> It is available on the host where you edited /etc/hosts only.
[08:53] <wolfslord> I'm having a strange problem with chrome. Can anybody help me?
[08:53] <bekks> We dont know without knowing the problem.
[08:53] <theadmin> cebor: Sure you can. The general syntax is "ip-address host-name-list-separated-by-spaces", for instance, "127.0.0.1 localhost black-mesa-east", however, it will only be available on the computer the hosts file resides on.
[08:54] <cebor> ok, should i use 127.0.1.1 or 127.0.0.1 as ip ?
[08:54] <AutistiCucumber> Hey guys
[08:54] <cebor> ah, the thing what i do is, i want more than one apache alias
[08:54] <wolfslord> ok. I bought a webcam a few days ago. Now when I open chrome with the webcam connected to the computer chrome tries, god knows why, to access the cam repeatedly and becomes laggy also avoiding other programs t use the camera.
[08:55] <theadmin> cebor: Should look into Apache configuration then (virtualhosts or whatever)
[08:55] <bekks> cebor: Errm. 127.x.x.x is you localhost - it is useless to add it.
[08:55] <cebor> yes i know
[08:56] <cebor> but i need 2 diffrent apaches: 1. http://mypc  and http://mypc-alias
[08:56] <cebor> ok mom, i try
[08:57] <bekks> Then do the following in the /etc/hosts: w.x.y.z mypc mypc-alias
[08:57] <bharath> when I started my ubuntu 11.10 it gets stucked and it shos only purple screen.can anyone help me regarding this?
[08:57] <bekks> And replace w.x.y.z with your IP.
[08:57] <wolfslord> bekks: so can you help?
[08:57] <cdj> hello all
[08:58] <cebor> for availabilty in network i must add it to my dns settings ?
[08:58] <bekks> wolfslord: Sorry, no. Neither I have a webcom nor am I using Chrome.
[08:58] <bekks> cebor: No.
[08:58] <cebor> i have a dns server in net
[08:58] <newbie|2> hello
[08:58] <wolfslord> bekks: ok
[08:58] <bekks> cebor: Then, yes :)
[08:58] <newbie|2> I feel like a break from googling, so here I am
[08:58] <MrWubbles> Shit Wolf Get It Together.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMTzptfQSKw
[08:59] <newbie|2> Which ubuntu channel do I go to for help specifically with a server install?
[09:00] <bekks> newbie|2: Every ubuntu - as long as it has a "server edition".
[09:00] <newbie|2> yes, it's the server edition
[09:00] <gordonjcp> MrWubbles: I don't get it, it's just nonsense
[09:00] <bekks> gordonjcp: He is spamming.
[09:00] <theadmin> newbie|2: There is #ubuntu-server, however questions with any officialy supported Ubuntu derivative (that being Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu, Lubuntu, Ubuntu Server, Ubuntu Education (Edubuntu) and Ubuntu Studio) are welcome here
[09:01] <newbie|2> ALRIGHT!
[09:02] <newbie|2> so, I've just reinstalled my vps to an install of ubuntu server 10.04 LTS  with 128mb of ram. My first question is: Should I reduce the resource requirements of 10.04, or install 12.04?
[09:02] <AutistiCucumber> Can't wait for gnomebuntu
[09:03] <bekks> newbie|2: Thata really not much. And I guess far too less to be used with Ubuntu.
[09:03] <theadmin> bekks: Fine for a server methinks...
[09:03] <ssta> 128M is a bit small
[09:03] <theadmin> bekks: It's the GUIs that are hungry
[09:03] <ssta> depending on what you want it to do
[09:03] <newbie|2> i only want to run a voice server on it
[09:03] <bekks> theadmin: My server have about 128GB ;)
[09:03] <newbie|2> mumble
[09:03] <AutistiCucumber> Xfce best for server
[09:03] <newbie|2> and then maybe a wiki, but that's something to consider later
[09:03] <bekks> AutistiCucumber: a gui is NEVER "best" for a server.
[09:03] <ssta> servers shouldn't have a gui
[09:03] <theadmin> AutistiCucumber: ...Crazy! Servers should have NO gui whatsoever
[09:03] <gordonjcp> newbie|2: 128MB ought to be enough for a webserver and a mailserver
[09:04] <AutistiCucumber> Of course
[09:04] <MrWubbles> NetBSD
[09:04] <MrWubbles> that is all
[09:04] <ssta> newbie|2: if you need to run a database server as well as a webserver then 128M is going to be tight imo
[09:04] <gordonjcp> newbie|2: you could try mumble on it
[09:04] <gordonjcp> newbie|2: how hard is it to get more memory allocated?
[09:04] <newbie|2> yeah, I installed moodle on before
[09:04] <newbie|2> had to push ram up to 512mb in order to get it fast
[09:04] <newbie|2> but that was on 12.04
[09:05] <ssta> newbie|2: is it a cost thing?  Personally I wouldn't consider a server with less than 1G...but YMMV
[09:05] <newbie|2> very easy
[09:05] <newbie|2> I can add memory in 1 minute
[09:05] <gordonjcp> newbie|2: there's not really a *huge* difference in the amount of memory required between 10.04 and 12.04, particularly for servers
[09:05] <newbie|2> okay, so I think I'll stick with 10.04 for now
[09:06] <bekks> newbie|2: I'd use 12.04
[09:06] <bekks> newbie|2: And get about 512M.
[09:06] <newbie|2> I intend to do that later
[09:06] <newbie|2> is there anything I can remove from 10.04 to reduce memory requirements in the mean time?
[09:06] <ssta> I only have one 12.04 server (and only got that because I needed a newer libreoffice)
[09:07] <newbie|2> 12.04 server comes with libreoffice?
[09:07] <bekks> newbie|2: No.
[09:07] <bekks> newbie|2: A server never comes with office applications :)
[09:07] <newbie|2> ok
[09:07] <ssta> newbie|2: not by default.  I needed to be able to batch convert .docx to .html, which libreoffice can do...but 10.04 doesn't have a new enough version to be able to ddo it
[09:08] <newbie|2> wouldn't it have been simpler just to get the repository for the newer version?
[09:08] <ssta> newbie|2: server and desktop are basically the same....just differ in the default stuff that's installed.  Anything in desktop CAN be installed in server
[09:08] <newbie|2> makes sense
[09:08] <ssta> newbie|2: I prefer not to use external repositories on production servers
[09:08] <newbie|2> theyre both based on the same kernel after all right?
[09:08] <bekks> newbie|2: No. Why sticking with a version thats supported until 2015 only, when there's a version thats supported until 2017? :)
[09:09] <bekks> newbie|2: No, they arent.
[09:09] <bekks> newbie|2: The kernel in 12.04 is about 2 years newer.
[09:09] <raven> xubuntu 12.04 - i am using tightvncserver to access the remote machine via "virtual desktop" :1 randomly some applications crash with the message "E/A error". Disk seems ok and with another username via sux i have not theese kind of problems. could be a reason the user home dir is encrypted? how to solve that?
[09:09] <newbie|2> i meant between 10.04 and 10.04 desktop/server version
[09:09] <bekks> Whats "10.04" in that context then?
[09:10] <newbie|2> lucid lynx
[09:10] <bekks> There are: 10.04 desktop, 10.04 server.
[09:10] <bekks> There is no 10.04 thats neither desktop nor server.
[09:10] <newbie|2> I meant don't both desktop/server version of the same uh version, use the same kernel?(unless it's explicitly changed of course).
[09:10] <ssta> yes
[09:10] <bekks> newbie|2: Yes.
[09:10] <newbie|2> alright
[09:10] <Boycraft> Remind me what was the program from games or education category that was teaching Basic programming language? I think it was in 9.04
[09:10] <newbie|2> now that's cleared up
[09:11] <newbie|2> is there anything I can safely remove(and also, where do i go for instructions on removing things) from ubuntu to reduce ram requirements?
[09:11] <jrib> newbie|2: recently yes, but that hasn't always been true
[09:11] <bekks> newbie|2: On a server? No :)
[09:11] <bekks> newbie|2: On a server, only things that are needed are installed :)
[09:12] <newbie|2> alright
[09:13] <Costeelation> i can restar the unity configurarion?
[09:13] <newbie|2> well it's idling now
[09:13] <newbie|2> only eating 41mb/128mb
[09:13] <newbie|2> i guess that's okay
[09:13] <Costeelation> i have problem with the video lens :(
[09:13] <bekks> newbie|2: Can you pastebin "free -m" please?
[09:13] <newbie|2> I'm seeing it in my vps management panel, but sure, lemme just ssh into the server
[09:14] <ssta> newbie|2: my mysql installation uses more than that...even when inactive.  128M is seriously tight imo
[09:14] <newbie|2> yeah
[09:14] <newbie|2> mysql is not installed
[09:14] <cebor> http://pastebin.com/XvNuE0eT is this ok? or should i add new lines for every alias ???
[09:14] <newbie|2> i heard there is a low resource version of sql
[09:14] <newbie|2> I want to keep resource usage as low as possible
[09:14] <bekks> newbie|2: There isnt.
[09:14] <newbie|2> as this server is only for personal experimenting
[09:14] <newbie|2> I'm learning
[09:15] <newbie|2> so I'm not making any money from it
[09:15] <raven> xubuntu 12.04 - i am using tightvncserver to access the remote machine via "virtual desktop" :1 randomly some applications crash with the message "E/A error". Disk seems ok and with another username via sux i have not theese kind of problems. could be a reason the user home dir is encrypted? how to solve that?
[09:15] <bekks> newbie|2: Where's there output of free -m ?
[09:15] <newbie|2> sorry, I'm still getting into ssh, my password and stuffa re different due to reinstall
[09:18] <newbie|2> vps@www:~$ free -m
[09:18] <newbie|2>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[09:18] <newbie|2> Mem:           143         77         65          0          1         32
[09:18] <newbie|2> -/+ buffers/cache:         43        100
[09:18] <newbie|2> Swap:          255          0        255
[09:18] <FloodBot1> newbie|2: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <newbie|2> sorry, I'll uise p[astebin
[09:19] <newbie|2> http://pastebin.com/GMvZ1gKj
[09:19] <bekks> Currently, you are using 43MB, without mysql, without a webserver, etc. :)
[09:19] <k1l> newbie|2: read that here http://www.linuxatemyram.com/
[09:20] <_PanzerSajt> Hy! I have a omap4460 based tablet dual booting Ubuntu 12.04 and Android 4.0. It has a 10 point multitouch screen, but I wasn't able to get it working under ubuntu. With android it is just working fine.
[09:20] <newbie|2> is that link you just pasted, going to explain
[09:20] <_PanzerSajt> Here is the output from mtdev-test while touching with 5 fingers: paste.ubuntu.com/1194283/
[09:20] <newbie|2> that linux often uses more ram so that it can operate faster?
[09:21] <k1l> Costeelation: unity --reset   into terminal
[09:21] <newbie|2> is ispconfig 3 a decent web control panel?
[09:21] <Costeelation> k1l:  nop, my problem is with the video lens
[09:22] <k1l> _PanzerSajt: ubuntu is not supported on tablets, yet. you will need the device specific drivers to keep everything running as expected. so better hang with the devs who made that ubuntu port for your device
[09:22] <Costeelation> k1l: i cant search youtube videos
[09:22] <raven> xubuntu 12.04 - i am using tightvncserver to access the remote machine via "virtual desktop" :1 randomly some applications crash with the message "E/A error". Disk seems ok and with another username via sux i have not theese kind of problems. could be a reason the user home dir is encrypted? how to solve that?
[09:23] <_PanzerSajt> k1l: Ok. You said "yet". Is that mean that it will be supported? Thanks anyway
[09:24] <newbie|2> i think he means everything will be supported eventually... in the same way the NBN in australia is not rolled out, yet.
[09:25] <k1l> _PanzerSajt: "some day" but im quite sure that the old tablets (as in the view of "some day") wont get support afterwards. so stick to the devs who made the ubuntu port
[09:26] <Iron> are there any free tutorials out there that will get me up and running with ubuntu 12.04 desktop properly, including proper usage of the terminal? I know there's the ubuntu wiki, but I was looking for something a little more structured.
[09:26] <MoreThanANoise> Hey, guys, I have such a problem.. I've installed GP6 trough wine and with installation came also files to /opt and /usr. I moved them there, but till now I am not able to start any program, or boot ubuntu. When i use console, it says command not found for any programs such as elinks, or gdm.. Can anyone help me?
[09:27] <ShapeShifter499> can someone please tell me what that "revert" button does in "software sources"?
[09:27] <cebor> http://pastebin.com/XvNuE0eT is this ok? or should i add new lines for every alias ???  (my /etc/hosts file)
[09:27] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: It reverts your software selection you made between starting that application and pressing "apply" :)
[09:27] <pippo> ciao
[09:28] <bekks> cebor: Wrong :)
[09:28] <pippo> !list
[09:28] <bekks> cebor: 127.0.0.1 hostname alias1 alias2 alias3 ...
[09:28] <bekks> cebor: No need for 127.0.1.1
[09:29] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, so it doesn't mess with entries I made the last time I had opened software sources
[09:29] <cebor> ah ok, but 127.0.1.1  was already there after a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04
[09:29] <bekks> ShapeShifter499: Correct.
[09:29] <bekks> cebor: Then use that :)
[09:30] <cebor> ok, thx
[09:30] <cebor> it works
[09:30] <bekks> cebor: There is just no need to invent localhost entries on your own ;)
[09:30] <Iron> I'm getting ready to install ubuntu desktop with a unity interface onto my desktop. I'll be putting it on a 320GB hdd, I have 8GB of ram, how big should I make the swap partition?
[09:30] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, whew *wipes brow*
[09:30] <ShapeShifter499> bekks, thanks
[09:31] <Iron> oh and, how big should i make the ubuntu partition, home partition, leaving another partition for miscelaneous data.
[09:31] <k1l> Iron: if you want to use suspend2disc use swap=ram. if not you can even go without swap
[09:31]  * Iron goes to google suspend2disc
[09:31] <raven> xubuntu 12.04 - i am using tightvncserver to access the remote machine via "virtual desktop" :1 randomly some applications crash with the message "E/A error". Disk seems ok and with another username via sux i have not theese kind of problems. could be a reason the user home dir is encrypted? how to solve that?
[09:31] <k1l> Iron: "hibernation"
[09:31] <MoreThanANoise> Please guys, I really need to solve it.. :/
[09:32] <Iron> when did I receive this, oh well. Thanks for the info.
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: what is GP6?
[09:32] <ShapeShifter499> ok does anyone know how to get firefox to open a deb file directly with a manager?
[09:32] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: Guitar Pro, i don't like using TuxGuitar..
[09:32] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: isn't there ubufox or somesuch package
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: ok so you installed Wine and the app (please don't abbreviate application names, it slows things down). Why were you messing with /opt etc?
[09:33] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip, it doen't enable deb handling :/
[09:34] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: There were folders, so I copied it. Now i see what a crap i did..
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: when it asks which application to open the file with, select gdebi
[09:34] <Iron> k1: So if I use hibernation, I won't use a swap? and also, where do i set swap=ram? Or, where can i find information about this subject(to avoid you repeating information available on a reputable website).
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: wine apps will stay in $HOME/.wine   there is nothing else to do
[09:34] <k1l> Iron: no no no
[09:34] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: what happens when you try to boot?
[09:34] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip, oh... thats not installed
[09:35] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip, lol ok I was going to because that was what firefox used the last I had ubuntu installed
[09:35] <k1l> Iron: if you want to use hibernation you will need a swap partition that is that size of the ram. because the ram gets copied into the swap in case of hibernation
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: makes sense :)
[09:35] <Iron> ooooooh
[09:35] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: Just Ubuntu load screen, neverending. When I use F1 to get to console, i am able to log in, but not to start any programs. It says command not found..
[09:35] <Iron> so if I want to use hibernation, I have to set my swap to equal or larger than ram
[09:36] <Xubuntu> how to change time zone in ubuntu ?
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: if you run:  echo $PATH    does it output a lot of stuff?
[09:36] <Iron> Xubuntu: first, you eat your own hand.
[09:36] <k1l> Iron: but nowadays you mostly wont need swap if you have 8gb ram (when not using hibernation). so im not having a swap with 4gb ram.
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest5942: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuTime
[09:36] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: Idk, ill give it a try, I'll be back in a while.
[09:37] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip, thanks for clarifying, thought there might have been a new method because it wasn't included at the beginning on my fresh ubuntu 12.04 install
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: it makes sense, I always use dpkg so I can see errors so that I can satisfy deps
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest95481: too hard: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+change+time+zone    ?
[09:39] <ShapeShifter499> ActionParsnip, ok, cool :)
[09:39] <Iron> k1: does it run faster without a swap without hibernating?
[09:39] <k1l> Iron: no
[09:39] <Iron> I think I'll just make an 8GB swap
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> Iron: if you have 8Gb RAM and need hibernate then you'll need 8Gb swap (maybe 9 to be safe)
[09:40] <Iron> what file system should I use? ext4 or ext3? I read theyre both developed in parallel.
[09:40] <Iron> ok thanks, I'll make it 9 to be safe.
[09:40] <k1l> Iron: go with ext4
[09:40] <Iron> righto
[09:41] <Iron> hehe, I just thought of a stupid idea: install to ntfs.
[09:41] <k1l> dont do that
[09:41] <ActionParsnip> Iron: ntfs cannot hold Linux permissions
[09:42] <Iron> I"M GONNA DO IT
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Iron: its fine for casual data storage bt for anything intelligent it isn't suitable
[09:42] <raven> 12.04 E/A errors / crashes when connecting via vnc - any ideas?
[09:42] <Iron> yeah I heard ntfs stores data on the disc sequentially while ntfs is smarter to ensure it stays fast
[09:42] <bekks> Iron: It is impossible to install linux on ntfs :)
[09:42] <ActionParsnip> Iron: so folders like /home should not be NTFS, although you can mount an NTFS partition to a subfolder of your $HOME and be fine
[09:42] <Iron> I MEAN, ext 3 and 4 are smarter
[09:42] <k1l> ok, im out of the "support" troll
[09:42] <bekks> Iron: And you heard FUD about ntfs, honestly.
[09:43] <ActionParsnip> Iron: its a different data structure and cannot store the ACLS and so forth of Linux, thats why if you try and chmod +x a file on a windows partition it doesn't stick
[09:43] <Iron> I don't hate ntfs
[09:45] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: echo $PATH says just one line of directories, all at /usr/*
[09:46] <k1l> MoreThanANoise: did you delete your /usr/?
[09:46] <MoreThanANoise> k1l: I didn't.. Hope I didn't..
[09:46] <Hircine> I need a little bit of help guys, I bought a new system y-day. It has UEFI instead of a BIOS. I am trying to install 64bit Ubuntu 12.04 on to it. I have tried to install from Disc and from USB(unetbootin). when I go to use the disc, after i go "Install Ubuntu" it hangs on some sort of screen distortion and offers no error messages. is there anything I need to do to get it to work properly?
[09:47] <k1l> MoreThanANoise: well you said you moved them? then boot a live-system and copy them back
[09:47] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: does it look something like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194333
[09:47] <Iron> I'm not very good with linux but Hircine: is your name from morrowind?
[09:47] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: Exactly.
[09:48] <Hircine> Iron, Yes.
[09:48] <Iron> oh wait, I mean, Hircine: Are you using integrated graphics, and is it core i3?
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: then you are ok :)
[09:48] <Hircine> Iron,  Core i5, Nvidia 620. using DVI.
[09:48] <ActionParsnip> Hircine: what GPU do you use?
[09:48] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: So what am i supposed to do? It doesn't boot up, i can't run any app...
[09:49] <Hircine> its not using the Integrated graphics at all.
[09:49] <blackshirt> hello
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: how about if you run:  sudo service lightdm start
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Hircine: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[09:49] <ActionParsnip> Hircine: some nvidia GPUs dislike nouveau
[09:49] <Iron> I cannot help you, I am sorry. But, have you tried simply extracting the iso file to a flash drive and booting from it?
[09:50] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: I'll give it a try. :)
[09:50] <bekks> Iron: Which will not create a bootable usb stick.
[09:50] <Iron> shh, don't tell him
[09:50] <bekks> Iron: Not funny.
[09:50] <Hircine> ActionParsnip, thanks, I will be back soon, I only have one keyboard atm :P hopefully that will work :)
[09:51] <Iron> alright
[09:52] <k1l> Iron: pls dont troll here. even when you consider to get support for youself
[09:52] <Tico> Hi, what's the host to this irc?
[09:52] <Iron> I'll try my best.
[09:53] <k1l> Tico: you mean freenode?
[09:53] <Tico> k11: yes :) for the android irc app
[09:53] <blackshirt> irc.freenode.net
[09:54] <Tico> thanks guys :D
[09:55] <Tico> now i can use irc easier on my phone :)
[09:55] <blackshirt> greats tico... Congratulations.
[09:56] <gordonjcp> heh
[09:56] <gordonjcp> it blows my tiny wee mind that I can open up a shell on my phone
[09:56] <blackshirt> maybe
[09:56] <gordonjcp> open up a Bash shell on my pocket-sized ARM Linux computer
[09:56] <gordonjcp> then ssh across to my VPS and attach screen
[09:56] <Hircine> on the grub option were do i put that command . append to the end? forgive my noobness.
[09:57] <gordonjcp> and do stuff on my Linux server, from the Linux computer about the size of a playing card in the palm of my hand
[09:57] <Iron> do you mean ssh?
[09:57] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: It says 'sudo' unknown command..
[09:57] <raven> 12.04 E/A errors / crashes when connecting via vnc - any ideas?
[09:57] <gordonjcp> raven: google isn't helpful for "E/A errors"
[09:57] <blackshirt> hircine, what do you want to add?
[09:57] <gordonjcp> raven: are you sure you're reading the error message correctly?
 Hircine: try the boot option: nouveau.blacklist=1
[09:58] <raven> gordonjcp applications crash randomly with E/A errors because any logs could not be written etc
[09:59] <gordonjcp> raven: searching for "E/A errors" reveals nothing useful
[09:59] <bekks> raven: Double check wether your your encrypted home gets decrypted when logging in via vnc
[09:59] <gordonjcp> raven: can you pastebin the error you get *verbatim*?
[09:59] <bekks> raven: Then double check wether you have sufficient space, too.
[10:00] <raven> bekks i have, how to verify the way of decrypting right?
[10:00] <raven> gordonjcp no not at the moment i have to wait until next error ^^
[10:00] <gordonjcp> raven: well, you know what to do when it comes
[10:00] <bekks> raven: No. You have to verify your encrypted home gets decrypted correctly. Just that, not the way how it works. :)
[10:01] <raven> bekks yes that i mean - how to look for it?
[10:02] <biopyte> i'd like to upgrade from 11.10 to 12.04. is there any advantage making a "clean" install from the .iso over a upgrade via tye update manager?
[10:02] <bekks> raven: Use a second user thats logged in using ssh, and check what happens when the first user tries to log in.
[10:02] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: try /usr/bin/sudo      use the full path]#
[10:02] <blackshirt> biopyte, you get a fresh install
[10:02] <Hircine> blackshirt, any thoughts?
[10:02] <raven> bekks with the auth.log?
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: clean install will be as the OS is intended with no fluff from the old install
[10:03] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: I always make a fresh install
[10:04] <biopyte> ActionParsnip, what kind of fluff could that be ?  i assume the upgrade handler will wipe out old fluff ...
[10:04] <biopyte> orphan libs i dont see as a major problem
[10:04] <bekks> raven: No. With "ls", to see wether the home of the first user got decrypted.
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: old configs and such
[10:05] <biopyte> Action, the problem with the fresh install is that you have to reinstall your apps...
[10:05] <ActionParsnip> biopyte: a clean install will format the partition and put only the new OS on.
[10:06] <biopyte> Action, ok ... i think about it
[10:06] <raven> bekks ok with annother user i get no permission to view home folder of the logged in vnc-user
[10:06] <biopyte> thx
[10:06] <vishal> I need solution for Ubuntu Software Center that why its not working???
[10:06] <Wallalebi> anyone know what cartoon this is from? http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xm7oor_you-should-install-linux_lifestyle
[10:07] <bekks> raven: then sudo -i as the second user, to become root to get the permissions to take a look into the first users home.
[10:07] <blackshirt> vishal, you should describe your problems more detail
[10:07] <ActionParsnip> vishal: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade       Thansk
[10:08] <vishal> ActionParsnipo: Yes! Wait
[10:10] <raven> bekks just a moment i have to fight with visudo....
[10:11] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: No such file. Only directories in /usr are share and src
[10:11] <vishal> ActionParsnip: it shows The following packages have been kept back:
[10:11] <vishal>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[10:11] <vishal> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 3 not upgraded.
[10:11] <Hircine> where do i add nouveau.blacklist=1 ?
[10:11] <BlueWolf> Hi, Is this printer supported by Linux - HP LaserJet Pro M1212nf MFP ( http://reviews.cnet.com/multifunction-devices/hp-laserjet-pro-m1212nf/4505-3181_7-33984369.html ) ?
[10:11] <bekks> vishal: Thats because you have to install new kernels manually (by explicitely installing them).
[10:11] <bekks> vishal: Expected behaviour :)
[10:12] <bekks> vishal: Solution: sudo apt-get install linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[10:12] <blackshirt> hircine, you can add it on grub menu when you boot
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: that's not good dude
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> BlueWolf: check the hplip site, should be ok
[10:13] <Calinou> BlueWolf, I suggest googling around
[10:13] <Calinou> HP is normally ok
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> bekks: if the deps cannot be met they will be kept back
[10:13] <Hircine> i tried that but it didnt work  i must be doing it wrong
[10:14] <raven> bekks with root the user home appears as decrypted
[10:14] <BlueWolf> Calinou, ActionParsnip, Thanks will have a look
[10:15] <Iron> I have a quick question: How large should I make my Home partition, is 4GB enough?
[10:15] <Iron> and, where does software get installed to? Is it the root partition?
[10:15] <mrdi> نت
[10:15] <mrdi> السلام
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> Iron: /home is where your user data is stored, it should be as big as possible. Do you mean / for installing the OS to?
[10:16] <raven> bekks ?
[10:17] <Iron> I do mean / for installing the os to
[10:17] <mdl4> *Fat Abbot voice* HAY HAY HAY WHAT'S GOIN ON Y'ALL
[10:18] <Iron> well, we're all very confused now
[10:18] <Iron> very confused
[10:18] <Hircine> yay got it starting  thanks blackshirt and ActionParsnip
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> Hircine: nice
[10:19] <user23> How to install Proxychains GUI ? I download file, but that file is .exe
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> user23: what does it do? There may be a native equivelant
[10:20] <Iron> check alternativeto.net for native equivalents
[10:20] <blackshirt> user23, that was foe windows
[10:20] <user23> it chains a proxy servers
[10:20] <blackshirt> user23 you should install it on windows os
[10:21] <user23> but proxychains is for linux...
[10:21] <Calinou> Iron, /packaged/ software is installed in /usr usually
[10:21] <Calinou> manually installed software, in your home folder
[10:22] <Iron> ok, so that explains why i should make usr bigger than 4gb
[10:22] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: Any ideas how to fix it<
[10:22] <blackshirt> user23, maybe you get wrong version for windows
[10:22] <Calinou> you shouldn't make a separate /usr partition
[10:22] <Calinou> only /home, and you're not forced to do so
[10:22] <Iron> well what's going on now
[10:22] <mevvis> Calinou: what about /local >
[10:22] <mevvis> ?
[10:22] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: I have sudo in /usr/src/bin.
[10:22]  * Iron is confused
[10:22] <Calinou> WTF is /local?
[10:22] <blackshirt> why should make /usr separate
[10:22]  * Iron attacks himself in his confusion
[10:23] <Calinou> why would you make a separate partition for this?
[10:23] <Iron> how big should I make /home ?
[10:23] <PeterGriffin> I need to downgrade apaceh, mysql and php. Is this the right way? http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194388/   Any information will be appreciated.
[10:23] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: you could try:  /usr/src/bin/sudo /usr/bin/apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[10:23] <blackshirt> petergriffin, nothing recommended to downgrade
[10:24] <raven> bekks are you still there?
[10:24] <blackshirt> you can break entite the system petergriffin
[10:24] <PeterGriffin> But I dont have any datebase installed
[10:25] <blackshirt> not related to database insttalled..but maybe breaks the system...
[10:26] <PeterGriffin> I have an application, that needs older versions
[10:30] <wisdom> can we discuss a problem ?
[10:30] <PeterGriffin> If I don't downgrade I don't need the system. It is fresh install of Ubuntu server 12.04. I installed php, apache and mysql before I realised that I need older versions. So I just need to know if this would work http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194388/
[10:31] <Martijn__> Hi everyone - did anyone know how to install Oracle JAVA-jdk on Ubuntu 12.04 LTS??
[10:32] <ssta> Martijn__: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[10:32] <BlueWolf> Where can I search for HP all in one printers that are compatible with Linux?
[10:33] <ssta> Martijn__: in all but a very few cases though, use openjdk7.  There are very very few situations where that's not correct
[10:34] <ssta> BlueWolf: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HpAllInOne
[10:34] <BlueWolf> ssta: Thanks
[10:34] <BlueWolf> :D
[10:35] <s9iper1> how can i upgrade from ubuntu 12.04 to ubuntu 12.10 ??
[10:35] <jrib> !quantal | s9iper1
[10:35] <jrib> s9iper1: 12.10 is still being developed
[10:36] <Martijn__> Thank you for your great support, ssta! I wanna use the Eclipse IDE to develop some easy JAVA applications. I'm a student...
[10:37] <Martijn__> @ssta The openjdk is not developed for creating applications with Eclipse, isn't it?
[10:37] <raven> 12.04 E/A errors / crashes when connecting via vnc - any ideas?
[10:39] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: Fatal Error, cannot load plugins for sudo..
[10:40] <ssta> Martijn__: yes
[10:40] <s9iper1> jrib: i need to upgrade there i know i am late you may not know i am a software tester so that why
[10:40] <PeterGriffin> Can anyone tell me if apt-get remove/install is a working way of downgrading php, apache and mysql?
[10:41] <ssta> Martijn__: in all but a *very* small number of cases, the openjdk is a complete replacement for the Oracle JDK.  The openjdk is planned by oracle to be the reference implemtnation
[10:41] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: I'd shoot for a reinstall unles s you are up for chrooting from a liveCD and reinstalling packages that way
[10:41] <jrib> s9iper1: as long as you understand that 12.10 is still being developed and meant for people who want to test and help with development at this point, then #ubuntu+1 can help you with the upgrade
[10:41] <jrib> PeterGriffin: why?  What exactly do you need to downgrade to and why?
[10:42] <PeterGriffin> this is what http://openprinting.org/printers/manufacturer/HP
[10:42] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: What does it mean chrooting?
[10:43] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: have a look online
[10:43] <PeterGriffin> and because i have an application, sugarCRM, an archivet database for an older version, and need to install it
[10:43] <PeterGriffin> no no
[10:43] <PeterGriffin> jrib: the link is wrong, sorry
[10:44] <PeterGriffin> jrib: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194388/
[10:44] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: Okay, I see, that's not what im into really.. I would screw it.. When i now reinstall /, do i have to set it up in some special way, when I already have /home partition?
[10:45] <Martijn__> @ssta I understand that I need to install the openjdk, right?
[10:46] <jrib> PeterGriffin: well where do you plan on getting those earlier versions?
[10:46] <PeterGriffin> I havent planned this one yet
[10:46] <jrib> PeterGriffin: you should do that
[10:46] <PeterGriffin> it wont happen from apt-get, will it?
[10:46] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: just use the 'something else' option and set the partition to be used as /home ext4 but NOT formatted
[10:47] <MoreThanANoise> ActionParsnip: Okay, thanks a lot, sorry for wasting you time.. :)
[10:47] <jrib> PeterGriffin: ideally you would ask sugar crm to support the versions in ubuntu 12.04 by default.  No, you won't find the earlier versions in your pastebin in the 12.04 repositories
[10:47] <ActionParsnip> MoreThanANoise: I have all day dude :)
[10:50] <PeterGriffin> jrib: I have started to install the new version of sugar, but I realised that the base is for the older version, and the compatibility requirements say that I need these earlier versions for the earlier version of sugarcrm.
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> !info sugar
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> !find sugar
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> oic
[10:54] <no-n> moosex?
[10:55] <jrib> PeterGriffin: you're on your own as far as getting those earlier versions.  You're likely going to have to compile them yourself (or maybe you can find some debs and then force apt to ignre upgrades to them). In any case, make sure those old versions don't have any security vulnerabilities.  And if they do, patch them.  Again, I strongly recommend you tell sugar crm they should be supporting the versions in
[10:55] <jrib> 12.04.  Those are not bleeding edge versions.  12.04 has been around for 5 months
[10:58] <PeterGriffin> jrib: So do you think that removing newer and compiling older should work?
[10:58] <PeterGriffin> despite of the security issues
[10:59] <jrib> PeterGriffin: sure.  Just don't ignore the security issues.
[11:00] <PeterGriffin> I won't. I just want to run the program and after that to update the whole set, sugar, mysql and so on.
[11:01] <Pepe89> sziasztok
[11:01] <Barb> Hey all, my nautilus (version 3.4.2) seems to be missing the bookmarks pane on the left, and pressing all the preferences buttons didn't work, and my google-fu has failed me. Anyone know what's going on?
[11:01] <Martijn__> @ssta Happy Sunday, thnxs!
[11:01] <Martijn__> < out
[11:02] <Pepe89> #linux.hu
[11:02] <Eagleman> dhclient eth1 gives me an ip address but it is not assigned to the interface eth1: http://imagebin.org/227768
[11:03] <Eagleman> 10.136.220.1.67 > 84.107.203.59.68: [udp sum ok] BOOTP/DHCP, Reply, length 323, xid 0x6dd46227, Flags [none] (0x0000)
[11:03] <Barb> Anyone know how to get the bookmarks pane back in nautilus?
[11:04] <jrib> Barb: take a screenshot of what your nautilus currently looks like please
[11:04] <ssta> Barb: F9?
[11:05] <Barb> ssta, F9 worked. Lol. Why isn't an option like that anywhere in preferences?
[11:05] <Barb> Ah well, one more hotkey I know now
[11:05] <Barb> Thanks guys
[11:05] <ssta> Barb: it's in the view menu somewhere IIRC
[11:06] <vishal> Jrib: so what can i do now
[11:06] <MoreThanANoise> does anyone know any IM client (mostly for facebook) running in terminal?
[11:06] <Eagleman> dhclient eth1 gives me an ip address but it is not assigned to the interface eth1: http://imagebin.org/227768
[11:06] <Eagleman> 10.136.220.1.67 > 84.107.203.59.68: [udp sum ok] BOOTP/DHCP, Reply, length 323, xid 0x6dd46227, Flags [none] (0x0000)
[11:06] <jrib> vishal: I have no context for that question
[11:07] <bonno> hello i am having a problem with my torrent client transmission where sould i refer to? i searched the internet..could find anything..  i am havoing a torrent and out of the blue  it does find the peers but i cant connect to them  (has a ? in all of them)
[11:08] <vishal> Jrib: My Ubuntu 12.04 Software center not installing any app. but can install through command lines
[11:08] <Thenewinstallato> Hi all
[11:08] <vishal> Jrib: why this happening
[11:08] <jrib> vishal: ask the channel (give details and use a single line)
[11:09] <MohamedAlaa98> Hi All :)
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> jrib: apt-get is fine but software centre refuses to install apps, reinstalled nano without a hitch, ubuntu 12.04
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> jrib: that is vishal's issue in a nutshell
[11:10] <MohamedAlaa98> i've installed ubuntu 12.04 but it's getting slow
[11:10] <ActionParsnip> jrib: oh and the guest user can run software centre ok (which is weird)
[11:10] <MohamedAlaa98> My ram is 512
[11:11] <MohamedAlaa98> is there is any optimizations for unity to make it work faster?
[11:11] <dos000> ubuntu 12.04 is taking 5 to 10 min to boot ...
[11:12] <MohamedAlaa98> the problem is not the boot time
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> MohamedAlaa98: use unity2D will make it faster, you could switch to a lighter desktop than Gnome, like XFCE or LXDE and the OS will use fewer resources
[11:12] <alim> jf;ljd;
[11:12] <dos000> this is sytem has some fiber cards ... how cani stop ubuntu 12.04 live cd from detecting all the medias and mounting them ?
[11:12] <_Trullo> my ubuntu 12.04 is showing the wrong monitor.. how do I change this? pressing detect display does nothing
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> dos000: run:  dmesg | less      read the lefthand value and look for large gaps
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> dos000: I also recommend you test your RAM using memtest from grub
[11:13] <vishal> Why Ubuntu Software Center is not working....... it only works with commands
[11:13] <MohamedAlaa98> ActionParsnip: ok thanks :)
[11:13] <dos000> ActionParsnip: i know most of the errors are coming from an /dev/sdd and /dev/sde devices
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> dos000: have you fsck'd them in liveCD?
[11:13] <dos000> ActionParsnip: i can see the i/o errors from dmesg
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> dos000: you could also use the ultimate boot cd to test the drives using the drive manufacturers testing tool
[11:13] <dos000> ActionParsnip: i am just booting .. for now :-)
[11:13] <vishal>  My Ubuntu 12.04 Software center not installing any app. but can install through command lines
[11:13] <vishal>  My Ubuntu 12.04 Software center not installing any app. but can install through command lines
[11:13] <vishal>  My Ubuntu 12.04 Software center not installing any app. but can install through command lines
[11:14] <FloodBot1> vishal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:14] <gordonjcp> !repeat | vishal
[11:14] <dos000> ActionParsnip: for now all i want is the livecd to stop detecting them
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> jrib: weird one isn't it
[11:14] <MohamedAlaa98> ActionParsnip: I was just looking for something else than changing from unity/2d
[11:14] <jrib> vishal: repeating like that gets you the wrong kind of attention
[11:14] <funky1> hi there, have ubuntu 12.04 64 bit installed, and automatic logon enabled, takes quite long to show the desktop is there a way i can check what happens and why it takes so long?
[11:14] <jrib> ActionParsnip: yep
[11:14] <dos000> funky1: i am haing a similar issue
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> MohamedAlaa98: tried LXDE or XFCE...?
[11:14] <funky1> dos000 and what did u do?
[11:15] <dos000> funky1:  no solutions yet
[11:15] <MohamedAlaa98> ActionParsnip: yep :) and they're working fast
[11:15] <dos000> funky1: and my problem is with the livecd
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> vishal: are there config folders and files for software centre in your home folder?
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> MohamedAlaa98: nice :)
[11:15] <dos000> ActionParsnip: there is no boot settings to stop detecting scsi drives ?
[11:16] <ActionParsnip> dos000: you could blacklist the module used for the controller
[11:16] <MohamedAlaa98> ActionParsnip: I was lookin for a way to make unity-2d run as fast as lxde or xfce
[11:16] <MohamedAlaa98> *looking
[11:16] <dos000> ActionParsnip: and i can do that from the boot menu ?
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> dos000: its a boot option, for grub
[11:18] <dos000> ActionParsnip: i know the device name ... how do i figure the module and the controller ?
[11:18] <Eagleman> dhclient eth1 gives me an ip address but it is not assigned to the interface eth1: http://imagebin.org/227768
[11:19] <dos000> ActionParsnip: lsof would do ?
[11:19] <vishal>  ActionParsnip: No there is no config folders in home folder
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> dos000: lsmod   maybe
[11:21] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> hio BluesKaj
[11:21] <funky1> doc2000: do you have any indicator applets running?
[11:22] <BluesKaj> hey ActionParsnip
[11:22] <funky1> dos000: do you have any indicator applets running?
[11:22] <funky1> I had and just disabled them all and tried again, desktop loads noticeably faster
[11:24] <funky1> hm i get a pop up system error the application add-apt-repositery has closed unexpectedly
[11:24] <funky1> why could that be?
[11:24] <Eagleman> WHy is the ip address not assigned recieved by dhcp
[11:24] <dos000> funky1: nop
[11:25] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/izU9XQph
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> funky1: can you pastebin the command you are using as well as the output
[11:25] <funky1> using not command
[11:25] <funky1> just when i boot into desktop
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> funky1: so when you log in you get a message about add-apt-repository ?
[11:26] <funky1> yes, just looking at the crash report
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> funky1: if you run:  sudo apt-get update     is it smooth?
[11:27] <dos000> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot dude :-)
[11:27] <Elsx18> hello
[11:27] <Elsx18> mdr
[11:27] <funky1> says apt... with error in get_ppa_info_from_lp(): (6, could'n resolve host launchpad.net
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> funky1: can you pastebin the full output please
[11:27] <Eagleman> Why is the BOOTP/DHCP, Reply not assigned to the specific interfaace? http://pastebin.com/izU9XQph
[11:28] <funky1> ActionParsnip: it is a pop up crash report, can't copy, where can i find that info via cli?
[11:31] <raven> 12.04 E/A errors / crashes when connecting via vnc - any ideas?
[11:32] <compdoc> which vnc you use?
[11:32] <MoreThanANoise> guys, after reinstalling / i can not use any of the previous user profiles.. How can i bring them back?
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> funky1: run:  sudo apt-get update    and copy the text and run to:  http://pastie.org and put the text there
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> raven: what do you do once connected? There may be a sleeker solution to what you wnat to achieve
[11:35] <Eagleman> Why is the BOOTP/DHCP, Reply not assigned to the specific interfaace? http://pastebin.com/izU9XQph
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: is there only one interface on the system?
[11:39] <gmagno> hello. I'm experiencing som dificulties in having "tput bel" making any sound. I'm not sure if it is my terminal configuration issue or operating system. I already loaded pcspkr kernel module, and calling "beep" works fine. But I'm using centerim5, a chat application which relies on "tput bel" to through sound notifications, and it is really sad not having that feature working. ANy idea why "tput bel" does not work? Btw, "tput flash" works w
[11:39] <gmagno> ell.
[11:39] <Eagleman> ActionParsnip 3
[11:39] <funky1> ActionParsnip: nm seems to be fixed, no pop up anymore and apt-get runs with no problems, but thanks you for your willingness to help! :)
[11:39] <Eagleman> eth0 eth2 eth2.10
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> funky1: cli always comes to the help :)
[11:39] <Eagleman> eth2 sees the dhcp reply incoming
[11:39] <Eagleman> but eth2.10 not
[11:40] <raven> 12.04 E/A errors / crashes when connecting via vnc - any ideas?
[11:40] <blackshirt> raven... Not experienced with vnc,sorry
[11:40] <MoreThanANoise> please, guys, how can i make previous users work back after reinstalling system?
[11:41] <blackshirt> morethananoise, what you mean? is it not working ?
[11:41] <compdoc> which vnc you use?
[11:42] <array> i love ubuntu
[11:42] <funky1> indeed :)
[11:42] <MoreThanANoise> blackshirt, nope. i used partition as /home during installation and it asked me for new user and now i see old folders, files and stuff, but i can log in as one of them..
[11:43] <dr_willis> you need to readd the users in the same order they were added befor
[11:43] <dr_willis> or add the users then fix the ownership of the files and put the m in the proper home dirs
[11:43] <blackshirt> morethananoise...sure, you make a new system
[11:44] <Eagleman> Why is the BOOTP/DHCP, Reply not assigned to the specific interfaace? http://pastebin.com/izU9XQph
[11:46] <MoreThanANoise> blackshirt, how can i make these users working back?
[11:47] <Troy^> Jordan_U: a=if your arround the formatting the external drive to ext4 and not using usbmount made write speeds go from 1.2M/s to 46M/s
[11:47] <dr_willis> MoreThanANoise:  how many users are you talking about?
[11:47] <MoreThanANoise> dr_willis 3
[11:48] <blackshirt> morethananoise, i don't know your system before... But you should learn how to hack /etc/passwd, /etc/groups and  /etc/shadow to add some user
[11:50] <Troy^> fizz@server:/media/2tbint$ sudo chmod a+x /media/3tbext/ chmod: changing permissions of `/media/3tbext/': Read-only file system  What would cause my external i just formatted as ext4 as read only file system?
[11:50] <MoreThanANoise> blackshirt, is there any tutorial..?
[11:51] <dr_willis> MoreThanANoise:  you have added the users back with adduser?
[11:51] <blackshirt> morethananoise, i think yes, you can google it
[11:51] <dr_willis> i alwasy add them  back in the same order. that saves m e tim e
[11:51] <MoreThanANoise> dr_willis, nope, i haven't added them. Shall i?
[11:53] <blackshirt> morethananoise...you can do that...my suggest for adding manually
[11:53] <MoreThanANoise> blackshirt, I'll give it a try. :)
[11:55] <MoreThanANoise> When it says smtg about new UNIX passwd, i should type in new password for that user, right? :) (sorry for that dumb question)
[11:56] <blackshirt> yes
[11:58] <theixle> I am having issues with an atheros nic that wasn't resolved by installing compat-wireless. Can anyone help me figure out why it occasionaly stops working?
[11:59] <dr_willis> MoreThanANoise: add them in the same order you added them befor. or else user b may get user c's files and visa versa
[11:59] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: what file system is it?
[11:59] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: i only just formatted it ext4
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: did you mount it read only?
[12:00] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: i don't think so
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: unmount it tnen mount it writable
[12:00] <Troy^> how?
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: sudo umount /media/2tbint
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: then use the mount command to mount it
[12:01] <Troy^> now i meant the mounting making it writable because i just type sudo mount /dev/sdd /media/3tbext
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: you can't mount sdd, you can mount sdd1
[12:01] <MoreThanANoise> dr_willis, crap, too late. :/
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: sdd is the drive, sdd1 is the partition you nmade
[12:04] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: sudo mount /dev/sdd1 /media/3tbext ext4  i'm having a little brain loss syndrome that is not right where does the filesystem type go
[12:05] <Scott___> Hi, I'm trying to install apache using "apt-get install apache2" but I'm getting a lot of errors like this: W: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/jaunty-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.190 80]
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: the filesystem will be detected for you
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Scott___: jaunty is eol
[12:05] <Scott___> what is eol?
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> Scott___: there are no sources for packages for it
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> !eo | Scott___
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> !eol | Scott___
[12:05] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[12:05] <blackshirt> scott, yes, jaunty was old releasem not supported again
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/sdd1 /media/3tbext
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> Scott___: why such an old (and dead) release
[12:07] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdd1,
[12:07] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194545/ perhaps i did not format it correct
[12:09] <Scott___> ActionParsnip, I just bought a virtual server and this is the OS that was installed on it.
[12:09] <Scott___> ie. Ubuntu 9.04 64-bit
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> Scott___: yes that is dead. no more support. I'd contact the provider and ask them why they are installing EOL releases
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: looks that way
[12:10] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: just redid it and it mounted fine as such
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> Scott___: send them this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases
[12:10] <Scott___> I see they also provide Ubuntu 10.04, is that still supported?
[12:11] <Thenewinstallato> Hi people!
[12:11] <Thenewinstallato> Can you help me?
[12:12] <Scott___> I think I probably selected the wrong option TBH
[12:12] <Thenewinstallato> Please...help me :)
[12:12] <Hayate> what the problems thenewinstallato
[12:12] <Thenewinstallato> well
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> Thenewinstallato: have you stated your issue?
[12:13] <Thenewinstallato> yes ActionParsnip on the top
[12:13] <Thenewinstallato> well again:
[12:13] <Hayate> i have not see it
[12:13] <Scott___> Is there any advantage using 64bit rather than 32 bit?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Scott___: depends what the system is for
[12:13] <Thenewinstallato> i bought a new PC
[12:13] <Thenewinstallato> and i wanted to install Ubuntu 10.10
[12:13] <Thenewinstallato> on it
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Thenewinstallato: maverick is dead
[12:14] <Scott___> ActionParsnip, I'm going to mainly just use it for web hosting
[12:14] <Thenewinstallato> ActionParsnip: why isn't it the latest?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Scott___: then 64bit wil probably help
[12:14] <Hayate> scott__ yes,if you are using 64 capable cpu
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Thenewinstallato: no, 12.04 is
[12:14] <Thenewinstallato> ActionParsnip: then i will use 11.10
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Thenewinstallato: its also LTS :)
[12:14] <Scott___> ActionParsnip, OK I'll install Ubutu 10.04 64bit, let's see if that works any better
[12:14] <Thenewinstallato> whats better 11.10 or 12.04
[12:14] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: this is what i'm putting in my /etc/fstab UUID=6da9a6d4-f2fe-4732-ab06-2d8912ea3416 /media/3tbext ext4 do i need any other parameters on the other side of the ext4?
[12:15] <Thenewinstallato> ActionParsnip
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Thenewinstallato: Oneiric is supported til April 2013   not much support
[12:15] <Thenewinstallato> ActionParsnip: ok well the best is ubuntu 12.04.1 as i think
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Thenewinstallato: Precise is later and is LTS, supported til 2017
[12:15] <Thenewinstallato> is it stable enough or very stable
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Thenewinstallato: very stable imho
[12:16] <Thenewinstallato> okay ActionParsnip and do you recommend to upgrade to 12.10 if its there
[12:16] <Thenewinstallato> or stay with 12.04 until 2017
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Thenewinstallato: I'd see how you like 12.04, if you want the latest features then 12.10 but Precise is designed to be stable and is supported longer.
[12:17] <Thenewinstallato> okay
[12:17] <Thenewinstallato> Ubuntu 12.04 RockZ it
[12:17] <smj> my Make is somehow broken... it just does nothing but eat RAM until the computer crashes
[12:17] <Scott___> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/a/apache2/apache2.2-bin_2.2.14-5ubuntu8.2_amd64.deb  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.184 80]
[12:17] <smj> no matter whether the directory has a Makefile or not
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Scott___: is this under Jaunty?
[12:18] <blackshirt> scott, update your database or change the source repos?
[12:19] <Scott___> ActionParsnip, this one is lucid I think
[12:19] <Scott___> Err http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid-security/main apache2.2-bin 2.2.14-5ubuntu8.2  404  Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.184 80]
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Scott___: yes, itsthe lucid deb, is this on the same system you have Jaunty installed on?
[12:19] <dr_willis> !lucid
[12:20] <Scott___> ActionParsnip, I don't have Jaunty installed now, I installed Ubuntu 10.04 over the top
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Scott___: how do you mean 'over the top'?
[12:20] <dr_willis> you just did a clean install of 10.04?
[12:20] <Thenewinstallato> 10.04 is old
[12:20] <Scott___> yes dr_willis
[12:21] <Thenewinstallato> 10.04 is old and support is AWAY
[12:21] <Thenewinstallato> please don't use it anymore
[12:21] <Troy^> hmm weird how ntfs is slower in linux
[12:21] <dr_willis> you did a sudo apt-get update yet?
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> its still supported though
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: nice catch
[12:21] <blackshirt> troy... What you mean with slow?
[12:21] <dr_willis> Troy^:  be weirder if it was faster. ;)
[12:21] <Scott___> dr_willis, on, I'll give that a go
[12:21] <Scott___> no*
[12:21] <Troy^> yes ActionParsnip i may even format my other drive from ntfs to ext3
[12:22] <Troy^> ext4*
[12:22] <Scott___> aha, that worked...  * Starting web server apache2
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: so long as you don't want windows to access the partition in a dual boot system, cool :)
[12:22] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: so windows can never access a ext4?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: not presently
[12:23] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: opps lol because that is what i formatted my external lol
[12:23] <dr_willis> Troy^:  thers tools to allow it.. but its not a good idea.. and can be dangeroua to your data
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> despite the ext4 structure being available, its not in the OS
[12:23] <dr_willis> not tried the tools in ages.
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> yet the proprietary NTFS filesystem can be access by Ubuntu
[12:24] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: so will i still beable to samba share the drive?
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: yes as the system will handle the file access, samba clients just see folders
[12:24] <dr_willis> Troy^:  fs has nothing to do with samba ;)
[12:24] <Troy^> ok
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: its only when you dual boot and want access to the folders in Ext4
[12:25] <dr_willis> you just need the right permissions,, its often harder to share a ntfs with samba then ext2/3/4
[12:25] <n3lthon> hi, im trying to install ubuntu on dual boot with windows, but when i arrive at partition manager it shows the disk empty, but i have windows installed. I think it is using gpt and uefi. how can i install it in dual boot?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: true
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: is the NTFS partition healthy?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: which version of Windows?
[12:26] <Troy^> ActionParsnip: so yea right now my external harddrive being ext4 may not beable to be accessed by windows anymore
[12:26] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip: i dont know, but i think yes. Windows 7 64bit. its an asus n56vz
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Troy^: not in a dual boot, but over network it will be fine
[12:27] <Troy^> ok ActionParsnip thanks
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: I suggest you check it, then resize the NTFS partition in Windows 7 and install Ubuntu to the freed space
[12:28] <theixle> I may have fixed the issue with modprobe -v nohwencrypt=1 but now I need to stick that in a config file somewhere
[12:28] <theixle> Wondering where the config file is located/should be located
[12:29] <Billy-Acer-Aspir> anyone knows how to login facebook in china?
[12:29] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip, i have a partition DATA empty and i want to use it for ubuntu. what shuld i do for ubuntu detect it?
[12:29] <n3lthon> *should
[12:29] <blackshirt> facebook has been blocked by chinas government
[12:29] <kidd> greetings..
[12:30] <Billy-Acer-Aspir> how to break the block?
[12:30] <Scott___> Billy-Acer-Aspir, proxy
[12:30] <blackshirt> you should do some hacking i think
[12:30] <Billy-Acer-Aspir> i did not find any answer through web
[12:31] <Scott___> Billy-Acer-Aspir, probably your government censored it
[12:31] <NEone> Hi. I need to install nvidia driver with kernelmode. Managed to activate root and login with it into console (tty2). But at the same time, there is still the graphical session with my normal user on tty7. How do I stop the X11 graphical session (x11 shall not be running during the installation of that driver) on tty7?
[12:32] <Scott___> Billy-Acer-Aspir, is it true that if I type something like t*******n s****e that it comes up as stars for you?
[12:32] <Billy-Acer-Aspir>  t*******n s****e
[12:32] <Billy-Acer-Aspir> i saw something like this  t*******n s****e
[12:33] <Scott___> no way
[12:34] <NEone> Or can I boot Ubuntu into textmode/console and prevent it to start x11 at all?
[12:34] <ikonia> how is this anything to do with ubuntu Billy-Acer-Aspir / Scott___ ?
[12:34] <iceroot> !nox | NEone
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: is it formatted and empty, or is it devoid of partition too?
[12:35] <Eagleman> how do i create a static arp entry?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: arp -s   can add an arp entry, you can add the command to the startup in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line to run at boot
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: http://man.cx/arp
[12:37] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip: its an ntfs partition, its empty and at partition manager it shows only unllocated space for all disk
[12:38] <NEone> iceroot: Thanks, will gonna try this.
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: delete the NTFS partition and the installer will see it.
[12:39] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip: delete on windows?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: wherever, just make the space you want to install Ubuntu to have no partitions...free space
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: also chkdsk your Windows NTFS partition, make sure it is healthy
[12:41] <dr_willis> unallocated is very defferent than  empty
[12:42] <sekynaja> ..
[12:42] <danny> is there a program for removing old kernels?
[12:42] <sekynaja> ไม่รู้คับ
[12:42] <napster> danny: May be use ubuntu tweak
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> danny: ubuntu-tweak does it, or ou can do it manually
[12:43] <danny> thank you both
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> danny: if you can pastebin the output of:  uname -a; lsb_release -a     I can give commands to clean up
[12:44] <milo64> hello, how do i add a custom script to start everytime linux starts?
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> milo64: does it need root access, or is user access enough?
[12:44] <dhana013_> Hi Guys How to create automated way create deb files from source code please guide me
[12:44] <milo64> ActionParsnip: root
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> dhana013_: look into checkinstall
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> milo64: does X need to be running?
[12:45] <kravion> hi, i've tried disabling ipv6, but my wireless still goes off at times, is there a solution for this?
[12:45] <milo64> ActionParsnip: no
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> milo64: then add the command above the 'exit 0' line in /etc/rc.local   if its just a quick command you can add it as you expect, if it will run for a long time then add a space and then an  amperand on the end of the command to background it
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> kravion: what wifi chip?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> !checkinstall
[12:46] <milo64> ActionParsnip: ok, thanks
[12:47] <napster> dhana013_: Its kind of a complex process and need through knowledge. Please take a look : http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
[12:47] <kravion> ActionParsnip: Intel WifiLink 1000 BGN
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> kravion: thats the adapter, not the chip
[12:48] <dhana013_> napster, It's any gui tool will automate the process, created deb files stored to repo.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> kravion: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    it will tell you the chip
[12:48] <milo64> ActionParsnip: # In order to enable or disable this script just change the execution bits.
[12:48] <milo64> how can i change it?
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> milo64: if you have a script file you have made, just reference it in the rc.local file, you will need to mark the script executable with:  chmod +x /path/to/scriptname
[12:49] <milo64> oh... ok.
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> milo64: when you reference the script file, use the full pathname
[12:49] <milo64> ok
[12:50] <napster> dhana013_: What exactly are you trying to do?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> kravion: is it a Centrino Wireless-N 1000    by  any chance?
[12:50] <kravion> ActionParsnip: yes it is
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> kravion: THAT is the chip
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> kravion: run:  echo "options iwl3945 11n_disable=1" | sudo tee /etc/modprobe.d/iwl3945.conf > /dev/null
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> kravion: reboot to test
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> kravion: I assume the Driver=    for the chip is the iwl3945
[12:51] <dhana013_> napster, i want crate my own packages it's formated as different for format deb,rpm files stored in my repo. it's a automated processs
[12:52] <napster> dhana013_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> kravion: those chips have issues with N speed, so the option makes it connect at G speed and is much more stable
[12:54] <milen8204> How to create a starter in Ubuntu 11.10 ?
[12:54] <milen8204> i mean script starter icon
[12:54] <kravion> ActionParsnip: thanks, brb
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> milo64: how do you mean?
[12:55] <milo64> ActionParsnip: uh... what?
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> milo64: sorry wrong target
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: how do you mean?
[12:56] <milo64> that's ok
[12:56] <prashant_123456> i have installed pysdm and now my all drives are read only any solution ?
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: do you mean a launcher for an applicatin?
[12:57] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, yes launcher for a script
[12:57] <napster> prashant_123456: Make it rw
[12:57] <prashant_123456> napster, all are read only
[12:57] <prashant_123456> napster, also at boot time
[12:58] <prashant_123456> napster, and if do unistall the pysdm no change in file system
[12:58] <napster> prashant_123456: You will be able to make it read-write-executable by chmod
[12:58] <prashant_123456> ok
[12:58] <prashant_123456> i see
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: are they internal partitions?
[12:58] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, yes internal and a memory card
[12:58] <milen8204> I can place the script on desktop and 2 click but it always asks "run in terminal", "open" and so on, I want on 2 click to open i a terminal
[12:58] <ikonia> no
[12:59] <ikonia> you do not chmod a file system to make it mount read-write
[12:59] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, chmod + x will do the change ?
[12:59] <ikonia> check if the issue is mounted or file system permissions related
[13:00] <prashant_123456> ikonia, please explain what to do
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: is it a single command line or is it a few?
[13:01] <prashant_123456> ikonia, all are mounted well
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: are they internal partitions? on drives inside the system?
[13:02] <milen8204> ActionParsnip,  i think 45 rows :D
[13:02] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, one drive inside the system
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> prashant_123456: then why not use /etc/fstab
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: yowser
[13:02] <prashant_123456> ActionParsnip, last time i messed up with fstab but the system crashed
[13:02] <milen8204> ActionParsnip,  it is a bash script
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: I can sugest you make a .desktop file on the desktop to run:  gnome-terminal -x /path/to/script    and it will run in a terminal
[13:03] <milen8204> I want to make an icon which starts a bash script on 2 click
[13:04] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, no I made bash script whit several commands, and want to execute that commands whit launcher
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: the .desktop file will do that for you, I suggest you copy one from ~/.config/autostart    then modify it
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: when you dounble click the icon, it will launch a terminal and run the script in it
[13:05] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, I am a newby in the .desctop files
[13:05] <milen8204> whill try
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: I can make you it if you want...
[13:07] <napster> milen8204: Exec=<your script> Terminal=false This what you want, am I right ActionParsnip ?
[13:07] <tim-ct> hi all. where do i find iptables config file in 12.04
[13:08] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, I will try alone, but you can help if you want ;D
[13:08] <tim-ct> do i open stsconfig/iptables
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: what is the full path to your script please
[13:08] <inde> hi guys can someone help me . i got a make command which is not working . trying to install liquidfeedback  make: *** [lf_update] Error 1http://pastebin.de/19740
[13:08] <milen8204> napster, <your script> is the path to my script or the whole script
[13:09] <napster> just the path
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> inde: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: what is the full path to your script please?
[13:10] <mathi> hi
[13:10] <milen8204> /home/millen/nostna_livada
[13:10] <inde> ActionParsnip: do i run that command ? thanks
[13:10] <mathi> how can I allow my windows machine to transfer files to my linux machine using Cyberduck ?
[13:10] <ActionParsnip> inde: yes please, what is the one word output please?
[13:10] <inde> lsb_release -sc
[13:10] <inde> precise
[13:11] <tim-ct> i see there is a ssh program for windows
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> milen8204: wget -O ~/Desktop/nostra.desktop https://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/nostra.desktop
[13:12] <tim-ct> ssh server
[13:12] <a-l-e> !ppa
[13:12] <iceroot> tim-ct: cygwin can offer you openssh-server
[13:12] <a-l-e> !words ppa
[13:12] <inde> ActionParsnip:  the output for lsb_release -sc  is precise
[13:13] <a-l-e> any good resourcces on how to create a ppa?
[13:13] <iceroot> a-l-e: just register a ppa on launchpad
[13:13] <hualet> hello, guys, do you know how can i set the layout of the panel in unity?
[13:13] <iceroot> a-l-e: there are tutorials then after the registration how to build packages inside the ppa
[13:14] <a-l-e> ok
[13:14] <psygnosis> Hello
[13:14] <iceroot> hualet: with the program "myunity" for example "sudo apt-get install myunity"
[13:14] <a-l-e> thanks iceroot ... my goal is to provide some experimental builds of scribus...
[13:14] <a-l-e> i guess that creating personal PPAs is the good way to do it...
[13:14] <iceroot> a-l-e: yes
[13:15] <psygnosis> Someone know how to use python in xchat-gnome?
[13:15] <iceroot> psygnosis: #xchat #python
[13:15] <psygnosis> Ok
[13:15] <psygnosis> Thanks
[13:15] <sliddjur> Where is a good place to create folders that are going to be shared between users. containing random data :)
[13:16] <psygnosis> What is the server adress for this chan?
[13:16] <hualet> iceroot, no , myunity's panel view just provide transparency setting and transparency maximized toggle setting
[13:17] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, tahnks  a lot, after your file i made another alone :D
[13:17] <hualet> iceroot, do u have another approach?
[13:17] <psygnosis> Sorry, stupid question.
[13:17] <jrib> psygnosis: this channel is on freenode if that's your question.  You can use irc.ubuntu.com for the server
[13:17] <dr_willis> what do you mean by panel layout?
[13:18] <iceroot> hualet: just know that tool, sorry
[13:18] <hualet> dr_willis, yeah
[13:18] <iceroot> psygnosis: irc.freenode.org
[13:18] <hualet> iceroot, that's ok, thanks
[13:18] <kravion> ActionParsnip: somehow, wireless still drops to 1mbps and stuff dont load...
[13:19] <psygnosis> jrib & iceroot : thanks
[13:19] <hualet> dr_willis, i mean the position of the icons locate...
[13:20] <no-n> I just ate a royal gala apple
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> inde: kravion if you run:   sudo lshw -C network    what is the driver module you are using?
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> psygnosis: irc.freenode.net port 6667
[13:20] <hualet> dr_willis, my ibus always goes before my other indicators' icons
[13:21] <Keepbro> err hello...can someone help me? I've got a bit of a problem on my laptop and have no clue what to do?
[13:21] <inde> ActionParsnip: PCI (sysfs)
[13:21] <theixle> Keepbro: describe your problem
[13:21] <kravion> ActionParsnip: driver=iwlwifi driverversion=3.2.0-30-generic
[13:21] <luweitest> Command A is a symbolic link to B, but run A and B gives different result. Why?
[13:22] <jrib> luweitest: command can check how it was called
[13:22] <Keepbro> The problemis im not great at computery things (but trying to learn) and have just installed Ubuntu on an old laptop as an experiment
[13:22] <luweitest> jrib: Can a symbolic link have parameters, like on Windows?
[13:23] <Keepbro> I cant find my wireless network even though it worked when I plugged it in (wired it) and I cant use it as a laptop
[13:23] <ida_> !list
[13:23] <jrib> luweitest: no, write a small shell script if you want that
[13:23] <luweitest> jrib: I see. Thank you.
[13:24] <Keepbro> Also this is my first time using IRC so I have no idea what the hell im doing
[13:24] <inde> ActionParsnip: http://pastebin.com/0H3NVYdP here is the output thanks
[13:25] <jrib> Keepbro: it's just multiplayer notepad
[13:25] <inde> oopsi guess you wanted that from kravion :)
[13:25] <Keepbro> whats that and how do I kill it?
[13:27] <inde> ActionParsnip:  what is causing this error lf_update.c:19:11: warning: variable 'out' set but not used [-Wunused-but-set-variable]  http://pastebin.de/19740
[13:27] <luweitest> jrib: I still have problem. Although B can check that user called it through A, but it will not perform the task that it can not do, right?
[13:28] <jrib> luweitest: you're going to have to be more specific.  I'm not sure what you are trying to accomplish
[13:28] <milen8204> ActionParsnip, how to edit .desktop file ?
[13:28] <luweitest> jrib: What I am talking about is the command whatis and apropos
[13:28] <jrib> luweitest: ok, and what are you trying to accomplish?
[13:29] <napster> milen8204: I use a terminal to run gedit usually : gedit <your file>.desktop
[13:29] <milen8204> aha thanks
[13:29] <milen8204> napster, thanks
[13:29] <napster> milen8204: no problem
[13:30] <luweitest> jrib: I find apropos is a link to whatis, I run apropos to search keywords in the description, run whatis to know a command's description. I think they are designed to be different, but surprised to find they are the same
[13:31] <luweitest> jrib: I don't know how to accomplish the same task using whatis, vise versa
[13:31] <jrib> luweitest: right, because in the code you will see something like: if argv[0] == "apropos" { do some different stuff}.  You can grab the source and read through it if you want (I imagine it's not too complicated)
[13:31] <jrib> luweitest: ah.  I understand your question now.
[13:32] <jrib> luweitest: it's not necessarily possible to call whatis and have it behave like apropos though
[13:32] <milen8204> napster, If I run the script in a terminal (Terminal=true) when I close the terminal does the script stop ?
[13:33] <napster> yes milen8204
[13:33] <Keepbro> So I installed Ubuntu - fine - wiped everything - all cool - then I plugged in my ethernet cable to my laptop becase the driver for the network card wasnt installed. So it connected fine - downloaded the right driver - restarted and now it can detect every wireless network in a 50m radius EXCEPT the one I want. I'm guessing that something is not setup to detect my wireless network? I'm very...
[13:33] <jrib> luweitest: if you are *really* interested, do "apt-get source man-db" and you'll have the source code for it in your current directory
[13:33] <Keepbro> ...new to ubuntu so if someone can help I'd be very grateful . Possibility of cookies as a reward!!
[13:33] <milen8204> ok thanks a lot, that is what I needed :D
[13:34] <luweitest> jrib: So, if that argv[0] == "apropos" part is designed to hidden and waiting to be called through apropos, what is the point to put them in one program and not let them to be separated?  I don't know much about coding so checking code is something I can't imagine.
[13:34] <jrib> luweitest: the rest of the code is probably very similar, so they don't have to duplicate things
[13:35] <napster> Keepbro: See if : sudo iwlist <your interface> scan lists the one you want to connect to
[13:35] <luweitest> jrib: Ah yes, that's a good reason. Thank you.
[13:35] <inde> hey guys anyone of you know why i am getting this make error on ubuntu . http://pastebin.de/19740 thanks
[13:36] <smj> my Make is somehow broken... it just does nothing but eat RAM until the computer crashes. it doesn't matter whether the directory has a Makefile in it or not
[13:36] <gordonjcp> smj: what are you compiling?
[13:36] <smj> Mandelbulber
[13:37] <smj> but I've had this problem with everything else too
[13:37] <gordonjcp> how much memory does your machine have?
[13:37] <smj> 8GB
[13:37] <BluesKaj> Keepbro, open a terminal , copy and paste this into it , then hit enter , sudo ifconfig wlan0 up .I assume your wirelesss lan is wlan0
[13:38] <Keepbro> err yup virgin media
[13:39] <gordonjcp> smj: mandelbulber seems pretty broken here
[13:39] <BluesKaj> Keepbro, then this ,  sudo iwlist wlan0 scan|grep -i essid
[13:39] <Keepbro> i did the first one and got Error while getting interface flags: no such device
[13:40] <gordonjcp> smj: it built, eventually
[13:40] <gordonjcp> smj: yeah, mandelbulber has an astonishingly broken setup with makefiles
[13:41] <luweitest> jrib: Further thought -- isn't Unix philosophy is small, separated tools put together to accomplish complex tasks? But code re-usability is somehow contradict to that. As the example of whatis and apropos, why not put all the commands in one "large" kernel and make every link of them?
[13:41] <a-l-e> mmm... the documentation i get in launchpad is geared towards creating an official PPA...
[13:41] <napster> Keepbro: Just execute BluesKaj's second command and see if your SSID is listed
[13:41] <a-l-e> is there any "simpler" howto for creating a personal PPA?
[13:41] <gordonjcp> luweitest: how is code reusability contradictory to small, general-purpose tools?
[13:42] <jrib> a-l-e: what documentation are you looking at?
[13:42] <jrib> !ppa | a-l-e
[13:42] <jrib> erm
[13:42] <luweitest> gordonjcp: I guess there are common codes more or less
[13:42] <Keepbro> interface doesnt support scanning
[13:42] <a-l-e> jrib: i'm looking for an howt for creating a PPA out of a scribus snapshot
[13:42] <BluesKaj> Keepbro, ok try, ifconfig , in the terminal , and pastebin the results at www.pastebin,com
[13:43] <jrib> a-l-e: you've seen https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA ?
[13:43] <a-l-e> jrib: yep, it does not say how to create a ppa
[13:43] <gordonjcp> luweitest: that's the whole point of common libraries
[13:43] <a-l-e> by creating i mean: uploading the code in the correct way
[13:43] <jrib> a-l-e: uh, you kept clicking "next"? and reading?
[13:44] <jrib> a-l-e: if you go on to the next pages (past installing packages from a ppa), that is explained
[13:44] <a-l-e> i've tried to click on links, but the pages are explaining how to follow the rules to get the package included in ubuntu and so on...
[13:44] <smj> gordonjcp: no, it will do that even when I run Make in home directory
[13:44] <a-l-e> jrib: i don't want to install a package from a PPA, i want to add a personal PPA to launchpad
[13:44] <gordonjcp> smj: sounds like there's something very wrong with your system
[13:44] <luweitest> gordonjcp: Yes, so the libraries can be combined to that all-in-one program altogether.
[13:44] <jrib> a-l-e: yes.  So read the page after THAT
[13:45] <jrib> that*
[13:45] <Keepbro> sht
[13:45] <gordonjcp> luweitest: right, but all-in-one programs are pretty much never what you want
[13:45] <a-l-e> jrib: let me have a look at it...
[13:45] <luweitest> gordonjcp: why?
[13:45] <BluesKaj> !pastebin | Keepbro
[13:45] <jrib> a-l-e: https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage
[13:45] <gordonjcp> luweitest: because they don't do the right things
[13:45] <a-l-e> (one of the problems i had, was that i was clicking on links in the text, and i didn't notice that there was a next at the end... jsut as a feedback)
[13:46] <Keepbro> Blueskaj - thanks for the help - I'll paste it there but... my baby just woke up so umm. gotta go  - also Im using my windows PC to do this on and have the laptop on my lap so umm. anyway thank you gootta go CIAO
[13:46] <gordonjcp> luweitest: they're complex and difficult to use
[13:48] <luweitest> gordonjcp: It should not be difficult to use, but may be  prone to err because of complexity
[13:48] <a-l-e> just one question: do i neeed ubuntu on my computer to create the ppa?
[13:48] <a-l-e> can i do it from debian?
[13:48] <gordonjcp> luweitest: they're always difficult to use, because of the complexity
[13:48] <a-l-e> (one more question... that is)
[13:48] <gordonjcp> luweitest: programs should be small and simple
[13:48] <iceroot> a-l-e: to create the ppa you dont need ubuntu, to build the packages you need ubuntu-tools (which should also work on debian)
[13:49] <gordonjcp> luweitest: if you need to have something that does a lot of different stuff, it should use some sort of plugin framework
[13:49] <a-l-e> ok, i'll restart the laptop, then...
[13:49] <sliddjur> usermod -G admingroup lisa
[13:49] <iceroot> a-l-e: but its always a good ieda to test your packages on ubuntu when they are in the ppa, so i would recommend to hold a ubuntu machine
[13:49] <a-l-e> or it would be rather time to create a VM
[13:49] <luweitest> gordonjcp: I have some clue, although not very clear. I am not a programmer.
[13:49] <sliddjur> usermod -G admingroup lisa... why isnt this working? when i look in nano /etc/group lisa isnt in the admingroup..._
[13:49] <gordonjcp> sliddjur: -a -G
[13:50] <jrib> sliddjur: do you have an group called "admingroup"?
[13:50] <luweitest> gordonjcp: So some sort of duplicate is necessary. That's a trade-off.
[13:51] <jrib> sliddjur: and, yes, unless you do as gordonjcp says, lisa will lose all her other groups by running that command
[13:51] <sliddjur> -a?
[13:52] <luweitest> jrib: gordonjcp: Thank you both.
[13:52] <sliddjur> aha, i got it. thanks
[13:52] <Muelli> arrgs. Ubuntu 12.04 doesn't recognize the middle clicks from my touchpad :( Now I can't use the cut buffer.What a regression. I've tried messing with synclient, but to no avail. Does anybody have a remedy?
[13:53] <jrib> Muelli: you can use shift-insert until you sort out the touchpad issue
[13:53] <CerealGuy> hello im running Ubuntu 12.04 32Bit - minimal and dont know how to install and configure vnc.
[13:54] <jrib> !vnc | CerealGuy
[13:54] <beytullah> hello
[13:54] <compdoc> CerealGuy, I like vnc4server. Which do you use?
[13:54] <rohtie_> What is the best channel to ask about c programming related questions?
[13:54] <CerealGuy> i use vnc4server too
[13:54] <jrib> rohtie_: ##c
[13:55] <rohtie_> jrib: thanks
[13:55] <ozette_> I want to allow internet connection trough ethernet cable from computer A to computer B, where B has no wireless network card - how do I proceed.
[13:55]  * jrib wishes rohtie_ good luck
[13:55] <compdoc> CerealGuy, I think its best to create a file to create the service:   /etc/init.d/vncserver
[13:56] <ozette_> computer A has only one ethernet port, and is connected to the home network with a wireless usb adapter
[13:56] <CerealGuy> i started the vnc4server with "vnc4server" ^^
[13:56] <CerealGuy> But when i connect i get an error message:
[13:57] <CerealGuy> Xsession: Unable to Start X session --- no "root/.xsession" file, no session managers, no window managers...
[13:57] <Muelli> nah jrib. I also want to close firefox tabs and open links in tabs and all that. So I do need the middle click :-\ I read that "three finger tap" was the contempory thing for a midle click. But my touchpad only recognises two touches according to xinput list --long :-\
[13:57] <CerealGuy> i think i have to install somethin other as just "ubuntu-desktop", xinetd and vnc4server
[13:57] <jrib> Muelli: what did it do before? 2 tap for middle and you just didn't right click on it?
[13:58] <compdoc> CerealGuy, you run vncserver the first time, and it asks for a password, and it also creates the .vnc folder with xstartup
[13:58] <CerealGuy> yes vncpasswd set correctly
[13:58] <ahmedelgamil> Hi Guys
[13:58] <CerealGuy> also configured the /.vnc/xstartup file
[13:58] <Muelli> jrib: how do you mean? Before the upgrade I just pressed the middle of the lower edge on my touchpad to achieve a middle click.
[13:58] <DigitalFlux> Any idea how can i disable CPU frequency scaling on ubuntu 12.04 server ?
[13:58] <compdoc> CerealGuy, pastebin your startup file
[13:59] <jrib> Muelli: ah.  And you can't recreate that configuration?
[13:59] <compdoc> CerealGuy, how did you install vnc4server?
[13:59] <jrib> !synaptic | Muelli
[13:59] <Muelli> jrib: No. *I* can't. It should certainly be possible though.
[13:59] <sybioz> hi
[13:59] <jrib> argh
[13:59] <CerealGuy> the log file: http://pastebin.com/yXEJznKu
[13:59] <jrib> !synaptics | Muelli
[13:59] <Iron> hello
[13:59] <sybioz> hello
[14:00] <sybioz> how are you?
[14:00] <CerealGuy> the config: http://pastebin.com/JMCafWb2
[14:00] <Iron> good I think
[14:00] <Iron> I'm having difficulty with catalyst control center though
[14:00] <ChaoticanarchyX> can anyone give me direction on how to get my display to stop going into standby? I allready set it to an hour in the settings but its like its ignoring it.
[14:00] <sybioz> ;D
[14:00] <Iron> I try to launch it with admin privilidges, but it asks for a password
[14:00] <Iron> i put my password in
[14:00] <Iron> and it tells me it's wrong
[14:00] <jrib> Muelli: there's also https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Input and « man synaptics » as resources
[14:01] <Iron> Another major problem is the fglrx drivers report that they cannot install.
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> Iron: run the command with gksudo
[14:01] <Iron> which command
[14:02] <Iron> I'm using a gui
[14:02] <compdoc> CerealGuy, try http://pastebin.com/FhzEuj2c
[14:02] <nokia> is there a command to ouput:  sudo fdisk -l or sudo blkid to a text file
[14:02] <iceroot> nokia: command > filename
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> Iron: gksudo aticonfig      maybe..   If you check the Exec=   line in the .desktop file in /usr/share/applications    you can see what is ran, then prefix that with: gksudo
[14:03] <CerealGuy> hmm
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> nokia: sudo fdisk -l > ~/Desktop/fdisk.txt
[14:03] <CerealGuy> i see the vnconfig window but its oversized
[14:04] <CerealGuy> no desktop environment
[14:04] <nokia> txs
[14:04] <compdoc> how are you launching vncserver?
[14:04] <CerealGuy> just vnc4server
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> nokia: you can also run:  sudo blkid >> ~/Desktop/fdisk.txt     the >> ADDS to the file, the > makes a new file and adds the text, if the file already exists, the contents are lost
[14:04] <ozette_> anyone else experiences flash video somtimes to play really quick or sound to be muted? I can't watch youtube unless I restart my computer now.
[14:05] <ska> I upgraded to 12.04, but i can't get my Plantronics microphone to show up in alsa.
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: what browsers have you tried
[14:05] <ozette_> chrome
[14:05] <ska> I've tried removing pulseaudio and several fixes suggested online..
[14:05] <ozette_> ActionParsnip, Is it a common problem?
[14:05] <ChaoticanarchyX> can anyone give me direction on how to get my display to stop going into standby? I already set it to an hour in the settings but its like its ignoring it and keeps going into standby after ten minutes
[14:06] <obert2> hello,what is the common method to download/install apps?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> ozette_: can be
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> obert2: software centre
[14:06] <Iron> how do i uninstall fglrx, I don't think it's installed properly
[14:06] <CerealGuy> obert2, apt-get
[14:06] <CerealGuy> :D
[14:06] <codemaniac> obert2: software center
[14:06] <CerealGuy> or software-center/synaptic
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> !ati | Iron
[14:06] <obert2> apt-get or via gui?
[14:06] <CerealGuy> apt-get is the command tool
[14:06] <obert2> both perhaps?
[14:06] <CerealGuy> software center the gui
[14:06] <BluesKaj> obert2, either one works
[14:07] <Calinou> software center/synaptic = gui (graphical user interface), apt-get is the command line tool
[14:07] <Calinou> once you get familiar with apt-get I suggest you stick to it for most purposes
[14:07] <Calinou> it's much quicker :)
[14:07] <Iron> which gui should I install that will still look nice but use significantly less resources?
[14:07] <ozette> Chrome plays my flashcontent really quick, and firefox really slow
[14:07] <obert2> yes i know, just tryin to understand if one is more used/recommended than the other
[14:07] <BluesKaj> obert2, they both use the dpkg system for install and removal , one is a gui the other is command line
[14:07] <ozette> this is absurd
[14:08] <obert2> mhm ok thanks
[14:08] <Iron> ozette, chrome is using an adobe flash player i believe while firefox is using an open source alternative, which lacks acceleration(I think, or  it's just badly coded).
[14:08] <CerealGuy> Could not init font path element /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1/, removing from list!
[14:08] <CerealGuy> i think thats my problem ^^
[14:09]  * a-l-e is downloading an ubuntu iso...
[14:09] <ozette> Iron, Only way to get it right again is to restart my system?
[14:09] <yeats> Iron: that's not correct
[14:09] <ska> Should lsusb show my mike?
[14:09] <ChaoticanarchyX> then again flash has been known to be a poor code (thats why most iphones wont play flash) if im right
[14:09] <compdoc> CerealGuy, which os you using?
[14:09] <ozette> It's really silly
[14:09] <Iron> I am pretty sure all iphones wont play flash
[14:09] <semitones> Hey -- why does apt-get say that linux-generic is being "held back" -- is that a problem?
[14:09] <CerealGuy> i use ubuntu 12.04 32bit minimal
[14:09] <ChaoticanarchyX> im sure your right
[14:10] <compdoc> CerealGuy, how did you install vnc?
[14:10] <CerealGuy> apt-get install vnc4server
[14:10] <compdoc> that should jsut work
[14:10] <Iron> how do I do a complete reinstall of my graphics drivers? Theyre really stuffed up
[14:10] <CerealGuy> i think i have to install gnome-session or?
[14:11] <Iron> oh right, sorry, the web link... I'll go check that
[14:11] <CerealGuy> /root/.vnc/xstartup: 5: /root/.vnc/xstartup: /usr/bin/gnome-session: not foun
[14:11] <CerealGuy> *f
[14:11] <compdoc> CerealGuy, oh, you dont have a desktop?
[14:11] <CerealGuy> no
[14:11] <CerealGuy> its a server
[14:11] <CerealGuy> installed ubuntu.desktop
[14:11] <CerealGuy> *-
[14:11] <FloodBot1> CerealGuy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:11] <compdoc> CerealGuy, I use Ubuntu as a server OS, but I always install the desktop version
[14:12] <CerealGuy> the hoster has no desktop version :(
[14:12] <yeats> CerealGuy: what are you trying to accomplish by installing VNC?
[14:12] <CerealGuy> just centos but centos sucks :D
[14:12] <ska> Nothing shows up in gnome-control-center: sound-> hardware
[14:13] <CerealGuy> i have to use some client with gui
[14:13] <CerealGuy> *s
[14:13] <CerealGuy> i can use all with command line, but i prefer gui
[14:13] <yeats> CerealGuy: from the server?
[14:13] <CerealGuy> yes
[14:14] <yeats> CerealGuy: oh - I see - ubuntu server is all CLI by default (since the GUI adds a lot of overhead the server)
[14:14] <CerealGuy> my question is, how to install the complete ubuntu desktop to an minimal ubuntu distro?
[14:15] <Tico> how can i edit the grub bootline to set "noapic" permanent automatic?
[14:15] <Troy^> CerealGuy: if you want a gui on your server would suggest after isntalling server edition apt-get install lubuntu-desktop or apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[14:15] <CerealGuy> i installed ubuntu-desktop
[14:15] <Troy^> CerealGuy: that is alot of overhead for a server
[14:16] <CerealGuy> i try lxde
[14:16] <yeats> CerealGuy: that will do it, though - you should have the complete ubuntu desktop if you installed that package
[14:16] <CerealGuy> apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[14:16] <ChaoticanarchyX> anyone up to helping me with my grub loader?
[14:16] <Iron> ok, so I checked the driver page on ubuntu, it says "uninstall previous drivers". But doesn't say how, that's not helpful. So... how do I uninstall my previous drivers and catalyst control center that's sitting here?
[14:16] <yeats> CerealGuy: note that uninstalling 'ubuntu-desktop' will not remove all the packages
[14:17] <yeats> CerealGuy: I'd do this: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu
[14:17] <gordonjcp> CerealGuy: running a GUI on a server is a fairly bad idea
[14:17] <carnau> Hi, I want to install Ubuntu 10.04 in my pc, but I have problems with the 3.x kernel. Is there any way to install it with 2.6?
[14:17] <yeats> CerealGuy: and I agree with gordonjcp, fwiw - you don't usually have a gui on a server, but to each one's own
[14:17] <Troy^> carnau: why 10.04?
[14:17] <carnau> Troy^: ouch, I mean 12.04
[14:18] <ChaoticanarchyX> or is there anyother Ubuntu room dedicated to helping people that i can be directed to ?
[14:18] <CerealGuy> its just a remote desktop server, nothing more ^^
[14:18] <Troy^> carnau: what problems are you having with the kernel?
[14:18] <gordonjcp> CerealGuy: oh, you're actually using it as a desktop?
[14:18] <Troy^> ChaoticanarchyX: this is pretty much the ubuntu help channel.
[14:18] <Tico> ubottu: !nomodeset | Tico
[14:19] <carnau> Troy^: It returns a kernel panic when loading the cd. Something related with mce of my processor.
[14:19] <ChaoticanarchyX> damn, i've asked two questions only to get no answers to each
[14:19] <CerealGuy> gordonjcp, its a minimal server distro and i want to install vnc+ desktop environment
[14:19] <Troy^> carnau: what processor?
[14:19] <ChaoticanarchyX> actually your the only one so far to answer any questions lol
[14:20] <gordonjcp> !ask | CerealGuy
[14:20] <carnau> In a 12.04 installed in this pc, it reboots randomly.
[14:20] <gordonjcp> CerealGuy: bah, disregard
[14:20] <gordonjcp> !ask | ChaoticanarchyX
[14:20] <Troy^> hehe
[14:20] <carnau> Troy^: Intel i7 Quad Core
[14:20] <Iron> why is synaptic not installed...
[14:20] <Troy^> carnau: that doesn't really help
[14:20] <carnau> wait
[14:21] <yeats> Iron: synaptic is no longer installed by default
[14:21] <freesand> my wireless doesn't work on 12.04 at home, but works everywhere else.  Also, other clients get wireless fine on home router.  I don't know where to start...
[14:22] <carnau> Troy^: Intel Core i7 950 @ 3.06 Bloomfield Socket 1366 LGA
[14:22] <Troy^> freesand: what wireless card do you own freesand
[14:22] <yeats> freesand: look in /var/log/syslog for messages around the time you tried to connect to wireless - there may be some cluse
[14:22] <yeats> s/cluse/clues/
[14:23] <Iron> well
[14:23] <Iron> time to destroy my computer, wish me luck.
[14:23] <CerealGuy> good luck :D
[14:23] <freesand> product: NetLink BCM57785 Gigabit Ethernet PCIe
[14:23] <freesand>        vendor: Broadcom Corporation
[14:24] <Iron> asrock motherboard?
[14:24] <Troy^> freesand: that is not wireless
[14:24] <freesand> product: AR9287 Wireless Network Adapter (PCI-Express)
[14:24] <freesand>        vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.
[14:24] <semitones> Hey -- why does apt-get say that linux-generic is being "held back" -- is that a problem?
[14:24] <freesand> sorry
[14:25] <freesand> it's weird... I'm at work and wireless works flawlessly.  At home, it resolves ip but wont resolve sites... pings are normal
[14:25] <Troy^> carnau: i don't know what to say i've been doing some searching but a more specific detail of the kernel panic would be ideal this is loading the live cd right? have you tried installing or does not let you go that far?
[14:25] <Troy^> freesand: there you go that is a dns issue
[14:26] <Troy^> freesand: that would have helped in your original question :P
[14:26] <freesand> other clients don't have issues, so it's a dns issue on my laptop for that specific connection?
[14:26] <Iron> also, I have to say, the ubuntu software centre is terrible.
[14:26] <Troy^> freesand: cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit
[14:27] <Troy^> freesand: correct.. are you trying to statically assign an ip or using dhcp?
[14:27] <carnau> Troy^: This is the first screen I see after load the cd: http://imgur.com/SVnNs
[14:28] <freesand> for the laptop i use DHCP... my bros comp static wireless others use DHCP
[14:28] <Iron> unless you know what you are doing, you should use DHCP
[14:28] <carnau> Troy^: It happens with Ubuntu, Fedora, Arch... in their last versions. Works with 2.6 kernel, for example a ubuntu 9.04.
[14:29] <freesand> have my a networking background.  Tshooting linux is new for me though
[14:29] <Troy^> freesand: cat /etc/network/interfaces | pastebinit
[14:30] <freesand> @troy 1 sec
[14:30] <freesand> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194800/
[14:31] <compdoc> youre using network manager
[14:32] <Troy^> compdoc: would assume so by looking at his /etc/network/interfaces
[14:33] <freesand> yeah, I don't set statics on my laptop... only servers
[14:33] <compdoc> I use to not use it, but Ive begun to
[14:34] <Troy^> freesand: ok right click on your network manager and go connection information and copy and paste the information on that screen to http://paste.ubuntu.com
[14:35] <semitones> Hey -- why does apt-get say that linux-generic is being "held back" -- is that a problem?\
[14:35] <Troy^> semitones: no
[14:35] <semitones> Troy^: why does it say that?
[14:36] <Troy^> semitones: your system most likely needs a restart from previous upgrades or current upgrades in order to do so
[14:37] <semitones> Troy^: how can I check if I have a restart required?
[14:37] <semitones> i know byobu knows about that somehow
[14:37] <Troy^> semitones: not exactly sure tbh
[14:37] <semitones> kk np :)
[14:37] <rweait> new Precise install on two laptops.  One laptop is fine.  The other has wireless fail after suspend/resume.  Filed wifi says it is connected.  disconnect/reconnect does not help. must reboot to get wifi back.  ideas?
[14:38] <freesand> I am going to have to do this when I am home.  I needed some info to narrow it down, I'll check DNS issues and if I can't figure it out I will come back.
[14:38] <rweait> thinkpad T60 is fine. Thinkpad T61 has suspend wiki fail.
[14:38] <Troy^> freesand: alright
[14:38] <rweait> er, suspend wifi fail.
[14:39] <freesand> thx for your time!
[14:39] <compdoc> semitones, you need to run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[14:40] <decci> Any idea about migrate from internal samba authentication to LDAP authentication keeping the same functionalities.
[14:40] <decci> Currently there is a working Samba domain controller. On this server we have the samba domain controller as well as a file server with different shares for each user including profiles. The PCs are connecting with Windows Roaming Profiles. The two servers are up and running
[14:42] <Raju_> nickName Raju- Natarajan here! I have installed bzr explorer and downloaded ubuntu manual.
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> decci: i'd ask in #ubuntu-server too
[14:43] <Raju_> when a chapter is double clicked vi editor opens. how to made to gedit? any body knows where the setting is
[14:44] <21WAAFEW9> Raju_: chapter?
[14:44] <daniela> ciao
[14:44] <daniela> !list
[14:45] <Raju_> any body knows how to set bzr explorer
[14:47] <yeats> Raju_: under Settings -> Configuration -> User Configuration, there is an "editor" field
[14:48] <randomdrake> Hello there. I'm trying to setup notifications or irssi to go to my desktop. I thought that the libnotify direction would work but that doesn't seem to be the case. Any other suggestions?
[14:49] <imyour-bela> hi
[14:49] <siriusone> EXIT
[14:51] <yeats> randomdrake: I'm assuming you've seen this?: http://code.google.com/p/irssi-libnotify/wiki/MainPage - I've set it up before, but don't recall what all I did
[14:58] <PeterGriffin> I am compiling php installation. Should I install MySql-server prior
[15:00] <yeats> PeterGriffin: why not use Ubuntu packages?
[15:00] <PeterGriffin> Because I need earlier version
[15:01] <Iron> okay
[15:01] <Psi-Jack> PeterGriffin: Earlier version than what?
[15:01] <Iron> I cannot access my catalyst control center
[15:01] <Iron> it asks for my root password
[15:02] <Iron> I provide my root password
[15:02] <Iron> and it says it's wrong
[15:02] <auronandace> Iron: you mean your users password
[15:02] <Iron> I do, that's the password I use for performing sudo root actions
[15:02] <Raju_> can someone help me on bzr explorer?
[15:02] <PeterGriffin> Psi-Jack: earlier than the one, that will install with apt-get.
[15:02] <jrib> Raju_: just ask your real question
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Iron: there is no root password in Ubuntu
[15:03] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Wrong.
[15:03] <Iron> then why am I being asked for one, and why does it say the one i put in is wrong?
[15:03] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: no, very right. Thee account is disabled and no password is set
[15:03] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: There is no /default/ setup for a root password in Ubuntu, that doesn't mean it can't exist at all as your statement basically said. :p
[15:04] <Raju_> Dear jrib, i had installed bzr and loaded ubuntu manual. when double clicking section vim editor opens. can i change it to gedit?
[15:04] <Iron> I need to access the catalyst control center, otherwise I cannot use my two monitors
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: i never said it can't exist. i'm going by default setups which is the safe bet
[15:04] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: The very first thing I do every ubuntu installation is sudo over and SET a root password. :)
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: its bad practice and not needed
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> Iron: can you give the output of:  ls /usr/share/applications | grep -i cata      Thanks
[15:05] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: it's actually not, that whole logic of it being "bad practice" is a completely failed argument that will never be considered true.
[15:06] <Iron> bash: grep-i: command not found
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: you can get to a root prompt with:  sudo -i    you will then also be using your user environment rather than root's. Having more accounts enabled is more of a security risk than fewer
[15:06] <Iron> there's the output
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Iron: note the space in my command
[15:06] <Muelli> Iron: you missed a space between grep and "-i"
[15:06] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: its not a failed argument at all
[15:06] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Been using Linux for 20 years. UNIX for even longer. Security through obfuscation is not true security. :p
[15:07] <Iron> heres the new output
[15:07] <Iron> root@Robert1204:/home/robert#
[15:07] <Iron> root@Robert1204:/home/robert#
[15:07] <Iron> uh oh
[15:07] <FloodBot1> Iron: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:07] <adam2012> Hello guys, I'm currently running 11.10. Is it worth updating to 12.04? Whats new? Cheers!
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: it still uses your account and your settings rather than roots. It's not security through obfuscation at all. There are fewer accounts to compromise. Its a simple case of numbers
[15:07] <Iron> root@Robert1204:/home/robert#
[15:08] <Iron> anyway, As you can see, now.... nothing happens at all
[15:08] <Muelli> adam2012: if you have a touchpad, middle click won't work. And if you try to connect via XMPP to a CACert signed server, it won't work either ;-)
[15:08] <ActionParsnip> Iron: ok run:   sudo apt-get install pastebinit; ls /usr/share/applications | pastebinit      what is output? Thanks
[15:09] <adam2012> Muelli: Thanks for the advice. I may just stay old skool with my 11.10 for now.
[15:09] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Yes, and no. The two situations have their good and bad possibilities, but it does not make it less secure just to have a root password set. That statement alone is one of my biggest arguments against Ubuntu on the front line, because it's inaccurate. It's the easy way out, only, and a major cause to problems, especially if sudo itself ever breaks.
[15:10] <Iron> http://pastebin.com/mjiY7mQu
[15:10] <Iron> perhaps i should close synaptic hehe
[15:10] <adam2012> Does anybody know anything about dual screen support for Ubuntu?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: the fewer things that can be attacked the more secure you will be
[15:10] <dr_willis> !anyone
[15:10] <Iron> adam, you get an error too? saying your resolution isnt allowed?
[15:10] <rweait> adam2012: :It just works" for me.
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Iron: do you have software centre open or updates installing?
[15:11] <Iron> i do
[15:11] <Iron> closed
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Iron: ok, rerun
[15:11] <Iron> it did something else, gonna say y
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> Iron: it should give another url
[15:11] <adam2012> rweait: I need to invest in a new graphics card. What are you using at the moment?
[15:11] <wingy> ubuntu seems to be the most popular distro
[15:12] <Iron> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194867/
[15:12] <rweait> adam2012: external vga connector on laptop.  I never think about the video adaptor.
[15:12] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: That blanket statement is the worst of them all. ;)
[15:13] <Iron> oh by the way, I'm one of those users who will manage to break something even if it shoulnd't be possible to break
[15:13] <adam2012> rweait: I only have one VGA Port lol. I guess that will be a problem?
[15:13] <rweait> Had no trouble with inexpensive dual output cards on a desktop machine when I tried a few years back.
[15:13] <dr_willis> totally depends on the chipser of the video card.
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: its tre for most things, its why we close network sockets down with firewalls, less to attack
[15:13] <rweait> Perhaps somebody interested in high performance video will chime in?
[15:14] <Iron> I have a 5850
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> Iron: what is the output of:  grep /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-amdcccle.desktop | grep -i exec
[15:14] <Iron> can't get two separate signals
[15:14] <dr_willis> Iron:  nvidia?
[15:14] <adam2012> Would it be at all possible to run one screen via VGA and one via HDMI? Sorry for the stupid questions, I'm a noob.
[15:14] <Iron> ati
[15:14] <Iron> it just sits there actionparsnip
[15:15] <Iron> blinking curser
[15:15] <Iron> no other output.....
[15:15] <dr_willis> Iron:  try making sure both are plugged in and on at boot time, try the fglrx drivers.   try any laptop monitor toggle keys.
[15:15] <Iron> adam: yes, it should be very possible.
[15:16] <Iron> I have two screen displays
[15:16] <Iron> but theyre mirrored
[15:16] <dr_willis> adam2012:  yhat can work
[15:16] <adam2012> Thanks guy. I'm looking into it now.
[15:16] <Iron> I have to get the catalyst control center administrator mode working to get this working.
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Iron: sorry
[15:16] <Muelli> Iron: press ctrl+c and then  grep -i exec < /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-amdcccle.desktop
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> Iron:  grep -i exec /usr/share/applications/ubuntu-amdcccle.desktop
[15:16] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: No, actually. Why we close external ports out at the firewalls, is because those ports don't specifically need to be accessible to the world, as they could contain access or information that is meant strictly for internal use. Not because it merely reduces the attackable area, strictly. It does that /as well/, and you're only covering half the story with that blanket statement again. :)
[15:16] <adam2012> Iron: What do you mean by mirrored?
[15:16] <Iron> i mean I have two screens
[15:16] <Iron> showing exactly the same image
[15:17] <Iron> Exec=amdcccle
[15:17] <adam2012> Oh. I'm looking to expand my work space. I'm finding I can't get alot done with just a 22' screen. Would be nice to grow the desktop.
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> Iron: then run:  gksudo amdcccle
[15:18] <Iron> I also wish to expand my space, but until I get fglrx and catalyst working
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: but its good practice..right?
[15:18] <Iron> that seems to have done it
[15:19] <adam2012> Just wouldn't see the point in having the same image on both screens.
[15:19] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Of course, it's just /half/ the story, not the full story, that's what I'm specifically pointing out. :)
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Iron: yes, we worked out the command from the desktop file and ran it with gksudo which then runs it as root
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: so using fewer acounts is also a good practice by the same token
[15:19] <dr_willis> adam2012:  classroom training,  putting movie on a projector..
[15:19] <Iron> okay, I am going to go and modify the shortcut to do the same
[15:19] <Iron> as it is incorrect by default
[15:19] <adam2012> dr_willis: Oh such a great idea.
[15:20] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: Actually, again, wrong. :)
[15:20] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: In fact, on that one, VERY wrong.
[15:20] <Iron> i cannot modify the shortcut
[15:20] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: i give. I'm getting back on topic now
[15:20] <adam2012> I was a little drunk last night, after coming back in from the pub I decided to hook my desktop up to my 55' TV. Lets just say Ubuntu is amazing and adapts to larger screens.
[15:20] <daedaluz> I have a ppa with newer version of xfce but I want to downgrade to the previous version now, how to do it?
[15:20] <Iron> how do i modify the shortcut properties to launch gksudo amdcccle instead of amdxdg-su -c amdcccle
[15:21] <dr_willis> adam2012:  if the overscan settings dont mess you up.
[15:21] <Iron> brb, restarting
[15:21] <dr_willis> !ppa-purge | daedaluz
[15:22] <Psi-Jack> ActionParsnip: heh, I'm usually also in #ubuntu-server, too. I could definitely teach you quite a few things and misconceptions you've been poisoned with. ;)
[15:23] <adam2012> Anyways. Thank you so much for your help guys. I'm going to head off now. Much love.
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> Psi-Jack: i'll pass for now
[15:23] <rweait> any thoughts on my Thinkpad 61?  Wifi fails to reconnect after suspend resume.  Manual switch-off, switch-on, doesn't reconnect.  reboot required.  Feels wrong. :(
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> rweait: if you unload and reload the driver module, does it work ok
[15:23] <rweait> This is a new Precise upgrade.  no such problems when it used 9.10.
[15:24] <adam2012> rweait: I had the same issue when installing ubuntu onto my tablet. Turns out my wireless card wasn't supported. I had to go out and buy an external dongle.
[15:25] <rweait> ActionParsnip:  I'll give that a go.
[15:25] <Iron> okay, it worke,d the unworked, I can now configure displays within ubuntus displays gui menu
[15:25] <Iron> so, success
[15:25] <Iron> Thanks ActionParsnip
[15:26] <n3lthon> hi again
[15:26] <Iron> what's the command for opening gui thing again? gtksu acccle?
[15:26] <Iron> just in case i need to do it again in the future...
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> Iron: run:   history   and you will see
[15:26] <dubaco> Iron:  can you be more specific?
[15:26] <Iron> oh that's awesome, wish windows had a history command.
[15:26] <dubaco> ActionParsnip: high five (i would have got that)
[15:26] <jjschoen> I would like to run Amarok 2.6, but the ppa that would install it seems to only be available for (K)ubuntu. Since I'm running Precise, would that be a terrible idea to try adding it?
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> dubaco: hehe takes a bit :)
[15:27] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip: i deleted the data partition and ubuntu still dont detect it. only shows a /dev/sda without partition table
[15:27] <auronandace> jjschoen: adding any ppa is a terrible idea
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: was the NTFS healthy?
[15:27] <sliddjur> when i try to delete a newly created folder in my home folder. i get a "no such file or dir"
[15:27] <daedaluz> jjschoen: Kubuntu and Ubuntu have same base, nothing to worry
[15:28] <Iron> what the, gtksudo command not found
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> sliddjur: does it show up in:  ls
[15:28] <Iron> what havei  done wrong now
[15:28] <sliddjur> mkdir ayes
[15:28] <sliddjur> yes
[15:28] <auronandace> Iron: gksudo
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> Iron: the history command will show you the last commands you ran, should show you what's what
[15:29] <Iron> that would do it. well, it's nearly 2am, time for sleep. But yes, I shall be back tomorrow to bother you guys some more
[15:29] <Iron> maybe someday I'll be helping beginners
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> Iron: it'll happen :)
[15:30] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip: 0 kb in bad sectors and no problems
[15:30] <rymate1234> I help beginners when I can be bothere
[15:31] <dr_willis> sliddjur:  how are you deleting it?
[15:31] <jjschoen> aurondance: because SW updated independently of the OS release can break it? daedaluz: The (K)ubuntu ppa seemed to have many other packages and tried to do a large number of updates, is there a risk in letting it do so?
[15:31] <sliddjur> dr_willis: I got it. first i created a dir: mkdir a,bc,d I thought that was three folders. Then i tried to remove them one by one.
[15:32] <Iron> hey, i remember there being a command to test opengl
[15:32] <sliddjur> was obviosuly just one dir
[15:32] <Iron> what is it, gears or something or other?
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: is the windows partition dynamic?
[15:32] <daedaluz> jjschoen: obviously, linux is a pretty priitive system with way too many things interlinked than is healthy
[15:32] <daedaluz> so your mileage may wary
[15:33] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip: how can i see that?
[15:33] <daedaluz> that's why linux distros do batshit ridiculous things, like freezing all packages for years, like Ubuntu and Debian
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: windows disk manager]
[15:33] <daedaluz> because of the primitivity and clusterfuck of dependencies like MSDOS all over again
[15:33] <renode> i keep getting ln: failed to create symbolic link `/dev/null': File exists when linking a log file to dev null
[15:33] <Iron> glxgears
[15:33] <renode> on 12.04, how can i fix this?
[15:34] <Iron> command not found, oh no
[15:34] <ikonia> daedaluz: pull back the language please.
[15:34] <daedaluz> ikonia: requesting suitable synonym for words "batshit" and "clusterfuck"
[15:34] <daedaluz> in context
[15:34] <ikonia> daedaluz: sorry, you must have not understood when I warned you, "please stop using those words"
[15:35] <daedaluz> ikonia: requesting suitable synonyms anyways
[15:35] <daemongpl> renode: entire command please?
[15:35] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip: it is basic
[15:35] <ikonia> daedaluz: I'm sure you can figure them out, talk politly to people using language that considered "polite"
[15:35] <n3lthon> *entire disk
[15:35] <renode> # ln -s /var/log/syslog /dev/null
[15:35] <daedaluz> ikonia: no I can't, I'm not a native speaker
[15:36] <Iron> hmm, i seem to have vert sync.
[15:36] <gordonjcp> daedaluz: heh, have you ever tried using Windows?
[15:36] <mneptok> daedaluz: also, opinions on how Linux handels dependencies is !offtopic
[15:36] <Iron> actually, I will stop with the commentary unless it's something useful. Sorry.
[15:36] <mneptok> *handles
[15:36] <T_H_X> renode: eh?
[15:36] <ikonia> daedaluz: "not very good"
[15:36] <ikonia> daedaluz: "a mess"
[15:36] <daedaluz> ikonia: lacks the harsh impact nuance
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: set it to dynamic
[15:37] <rweait> I'm having clue-block on remove and reload the wifi module.  An assist please?  :-)
[15:37] <ikonia> daedaluz: it doesn't need it, look this isn't a language class. If you don't know the word without using a swear word, don't speak
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: basically the other option it can be
[15:37] <renode> T_H_X i was responding to daemongpl
[15:37] <T_H_X> renode, strange command
[15:37] <Iron> alright,6342fps in glxgears
[15:37] <Iron> how good is that?
[15:37] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip: i will need to install windows again?
[15:37] <daedaluz> ikonia: in context those are not swear words altough they do include swear words
[15:37] <renode> How so?
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: no, you can just change it
[15:38] <T_H_X> piping dev/null to syslog
[15:38] <nurpse> Hi, I want to learn how to setup dns, web and mysql servers and make them all work together. I have available with me, a powerful server where I can create a bunch of virtual servers, Only one statis IP. Can I make a production like setup with this accessible to the world?
[15:38] <ikonia> nurpse: sure
[15:38] <gordonjcp> nurpse: yes
[15:38] <daemongpl> renode: you trying to throw away the syslog?
[15:39] <gordonjcp> nurpse: the great thing about using virtual servers that you can create is that when you end up making a hideous unusable mess you can nuke it and go back to the last working one ;-)
[15:39] <renode> I am
[15:39] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip: done, now ubuntu detect the partition?
[15:39] <sliddjur> Can only a user own a folder. or can a group do?
[15:39] <nurpse> I have router, how would this work. I mean I have only one IP, do I need to port forward.
[15:39] <gordonjcp> nurpse: yes
[15:39] <renode> Unless you have another way of destroying openSSH logs?
[15:39] <nurpse> Basically all the servers will have only one IP visible to the world
[15:39] <gordonjcp> nurpse: they will be using different ports, though
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> rweait: if you run:  sudo lshw -C network    look for the driver=   bit
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: should do yes
[15:40] <gordonjcp> renode: What exactly are you trying to do?
[15:40] <renode> Make SSH logless
[15:40] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip: just one question, my system uses uefi and grub will work as usual?
[15:40] <renode> *ssh-server
[15:40] <gordonjcp> renode: turn off logging in the config files, then
[15:40] <Iron> Hey, I don't want to know how just yet, yes or know answer is requested: Can I copy my ubuntu install to a flash drive and have it work with little modification?
[15:41] <gordonjcp> renode: it's a pretty stupid idea though
[15:41] <nurpse> So for example, I can forward MYIP:80 to vm hosting webserver, MYIP:3307?
[15:41] <renode> which config file? because its not sshd_config
[15:41] <renode> LogLevel NONE ?
[15:41] <Iron> oh well, cyas now
[15:42] <gordonjcp> renode: yes
[15:42] <gordonjcp> renode: why on earth do you want to do that?
[15:42] <semitones> Hey -- is there a screen command to tell me if I'm still inside of a screen?????
[15:42] <gordonjcp> semitones: <ctrl-a> <?>
[15:42] <gordonjcp> should bring up the help screen
[15:43] <semitones> gordonjcp: thanks
[15:43] <rweait> ActionParsnip, got it "iwl3945"
[15:43] <yeats> renode: see 'man sshd_config' for the possible options
[15:44] <T_H_X> renode: just edit /etc/default/ssh
[15:44] <quiescens> even if you tell sshd not to log connections, chances are logging in will be logged by something which sshd has no particular control over
[15:44] <rweait> hunh.  rmmod iwl3945 worked to remove the module.  insmod iwl3945 said no such file or directory.
[15:44] <renode> which is why i wanted to /dev/null syslog
[15:44] <T_H_X> renode: SSHD_OPTS="-e /dev/null"
[15:44] <quiescens> also, i didn't think anything ssh related goes to syslog anyway
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> sudo modprobe -r iwl3945; sleep 2; sudo modprobe iwl3945
[15:44] <daemongpl> renode: seems like you got the help :) I had to take a call
[15:44] <ActionParsnip> rweait: ^
[15:45] <renode> but T_H_X i get the error of 'File Exists'
[15:45] <T_H_X> renode: to dev null syslog you do ln -s /dev/null /var/log/syslog
[15:45] <renode> oh
[15:45] <T_H_X> :D
[15:45] <renode> well, that would make sense, wouldnt it? :) My bad
[15:46] <mathi> hi
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon: not used uefi, sorry
[15:46] <mathi> where is the startup directory in ubuntu ?
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> mathi: ~/.config/autostart
[15:47] <mathi> ActionParsnip, some website says it's /etc/init.d/
[15:47] <yeats> renode: I would strongly recommend *not* doing that, especially if all you're trying to do is control sshd logging
[15:47] <n3lthon> ActionParsnip: thank you
[15:48] <renode> what would you recommend then yeats?
[15:48] <quiescens> shrugs, i doubt it will even do what is wanted
[15:48] <yeats> renode: using the loglevel in sshd_config
[15:48] <rweait> ActionParsnip: module appears to unload/reload properly.  No error from modprobe.  wifi icon on status bar goes through disconnect, then reconnect animation.  disconnect and reconnect messages popup as expected. But firefox  says, firefox can't find the server at yahoo.ca ...
[15:48] <danieldeusing> how can i check if a script is already running using pidof ?
[15:49] <danieldeusing> pidof -s programname
[15:49] <danieldeusing> that works well, but i have a space
[15:49] <renode> And, thats not the only logs im trying to prevent
[15:49] <renode> So thanks guys
[15:49] <danieldeusing> the process is "/bin/bash ./processname.sh"
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> rweait: can you ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[15:49] <yeats> renode: I guess I don't understand the purpose, but you'll have a hard time if you ever need to troubleshoot a subtle issue
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> danieldeusing: could use:  ps -ef | grep name
[15:49] <yeats> oh - he's gone
[15:49] <rweait> network is unreachable.
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> rweait: hmm, sometimes works
[15:50] <danieldeusing> no i cant ActionParsnip, my ps does not have any attribs
[15:50] <danieldeusing> its a tiny angstrom
[15:50] <T_H_X> yeats: can always re enable it i there is an issue, but yea,not the best idea.
[15:50] <vkas> i am stuck with broken packages
[15:50] <vkas> please help http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194915/
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> danieldeusing: you can still grep for the process name
[15:51] <danieldeusing> sure that i can
[15:51]  * yeats depends on logs for troubleshooting and can't imagine why someone wouldn't need them too
[15:51] <rweait> eth1 now has a different ip addr netblock.  Claims to be on same accesspoint though.
[15:51] <danieldeusing> but, i thought its easier and faster using pidof
[15:51] <danieldeusing> only that i have the problem having the space in the process
[15:51] <T_H_X> yeats: becaue they can ;)
[15:51] <danieldeusing> the other process i am checking with pidof and its fine
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> vkas: try:  wget http://dl.dropbox.com/u/8850924/fixpackage; chmod +x ./fixpackage; sudo ./fixpackage
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> danieldeusing: then just grep for a bit of the name
[15:52] <vkas> actionparsnip: thanks, i will tell you if that worked
[15:53] <a-l-e> reading https://help.launchpad.net/Packaging/PPA/BuildingASourcePackage did not really help :-(
[15:54] <a-l-e> is there any informatino on how i should prepare my source code to upload it to my ppa repository?
[15:54] <a-l-e> do i have to learn how to create .deb packages before?
[15:56] <dr_willis> it would  be a good thing to learn for any developer to knw how to make  debs
[15:56] <a-l-e> really, what can i read to learn how to create a .ppa?
[15:56] <rweait> interesting.  on reboot, wifi gets a 192.168.3.* from the AP.  Expected. on unload/ reload, wifi gets 10.42.0.* from "same AP" (not expected), and surfing fails.
[15:56] <ikonia> especially managing dependencies and conflicts.
[15:56] <tippenein> I get "waiting for network configuration" on startup after updating to 12.04
[15:56] <a-l-e> i have the feeling that i'm in a labyirinth of things i don't really need...
[15:57] <a-l-e> but i've not found any directions about files i should create or how it all should work...
[15:57] <a-l-e> ... is there any how-to which does not teach me how to fix bug on ubuntu?
[15:57] <ActionParsnip> rweait: do you have a static IP set, or do you ever connect to a 10.42.0.0/24 network?
[15:57] <ikonia> a-l-e: learn how to build software, then package it, then how to host a PPA
[15:57] <a-l-e> ikonia: i've been building software for the last ten years...
[15:57] <a-l-e> so, what's the next step?
[15:58] <ikonia> a-l-e: learn how to package software for the distribution you want
[15:58] <a-l-e> where do i learn how to package it for a ppa?
[15:58] <ikonia> no, not package it for a PPA
[15:58] <ikonia> package it
[15:58] <ikonia> then learn how to host a PPA
[15:58] <rweait> ActionParsnip, there should not be a static ip set on that laptop.  I don't have a 10.42.0 network to connect to, here.
[15:58] <a-l-e> ikonia: package it in a zip? in a tar? in a deb?
[15:59] <Naeblis> Hi. I'm on Natty, and Ubuntu keeps crashing. I'm getting this on the screen: http://i.imgur.com/xud9N.jpg
[15:59] <ikonia> a-l-e: well, as you'd be packaging it for ubuntu (I assume) a deb would be the correct package formwa
[15:59] <ikonia> format
[15:59] <Naeblis> any idea what's going on?
[15:59] <a-l-e> all i want is to be able to upload a .ppa of a development snapshot of scribus to my own repository.
[15:59] <a-l-e> ikonia: no idea, you tell me.
[15:59] <tippenein> I can get network manager running after startup w/ /etc/init.d/network-manager start
[15:59] <tippenein> but it shouldn't be disabled on startup
[15:59] <ikonia> a-l-e: are you packaging this software for ubuntu ?
[16:00] <hjuyt> hi. i want to install ubuntu on my old pc (xp now). My problem is when i try to make the usb the start up disk creator says i have the wrong md5sum. i've checked in the terminal and it's not wrong. how to fix this?
[16:00] <a-l-e> ikonia: yes
[16:00] <a-l-e> i'm going to package it for ubuntu.
[16:00] <a-l-e> as said, the goal is to create a ppa which people will be able to download to test specific features.
[16:00] <ikonia> a-l-e: ok, so packaging it for a deb format would be a good process to follow
[16:00] <ikonia> a-l-e: yes, however understanding how to build/manage software for your target distro is wise before just dumping it on a PPA to use the build process
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> rweait: tried rebooting the router, then the system
[16:01] <a-l-e> ikonia: sorry, i'm not intersted in it.
[16:01] <ikonia> (assuming you want a good software package and valid test results)
[16:01] <nate__> I am wondering if the result of struts execute method is not success and you have this action what does it do I am assuming it doesn;t go to the /HellowWorld.jsp ?
[16:01] <nate__>  <action name="hello"
[16:01] <nate__>             class="com.tutorialspoint.struts2.HelloWorldAction"
[16:01] <nate__>             method="execute">
[16:01] <nate__>             <result name="success">/HelloWorld.jsp</result>
[16:01] <FloodBot1> nate__: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:01] <nate__>       </action>
[16:01] <n3lthon_> ActionParsnip: still the same on disk partitioning.
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> hjuyt: then redownload the ISO
[16:01] <ikonia> a-l-e: ok, then I'm not interested in helping you
[16:01] <a-l-e> that's fair
[16:01] <ikonia> a-l-e: the documentation for PPA's is on launchpad and the ubuntu wiki
[16:01] <rweait>  ActionParsnip: shall do.
[16:01] <nate__> sorry can somebody answer that
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> a-l-e: could also ask in #launchpad
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon_: not sure then dude
[16:01] <hjuyt> ActionParsnip: I've tried both 12.04.1 and 12.04
[16:01] <a-l-e> ActionParsnip: ok, i'll try that.
[16:02] <a-l-e> i really want to have the package out this evening. not read manuas for the next week...
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> hjuyt: download the ubuntu 12.04.1 ISO, MD5 test it then use unetbootin and point the app to the downloaded ISO file
[16:02] <ikonia> a-l-e: I really don't want you to upload junk without understanding what you're doing, so we are at an empass
[16:02] <mathi> hey
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: can I PM you please dude
[16:02] <ikonia> ActionParsnip: sure thing
[16:02] <mathi> how can I check if program noip2 is running ?
[16:03] <hjuyt> ActionParsnip: Did this (for the 12.04) and I just get a black screen with a blinking cursor when I try to boot from usb
[16:03] <a-l-e> ikonia: btw, i'm not interested in the quality because for now it's just about providing the ppa... the goal is not at all to be added to the official repositories or something like this.
[16:04] <n3lthon_> ActionParsnip: here is a screenshot: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/screenshotfrom201209091.png/
[16:04] <a-l-e> it just has to be correct enough to install and not corrupt the users' computer
[16:04] <ikonia> a-l-e: PPA's are still used by people, so I'm not interestd in you iploading junk
[16:04] <rocket_hamster> @mathi type ps -A | grep noip2 into terminal
[16:04] <ikonia> a-l-e: try #launchpad as ActionParsnip has suggested
[16:04] <a-l-e> yep, but it won't ever leave the development status.
[16:05] <BluesKaj> a-l-e, , but if you're going host a ppa , then the apps provided on it should work
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> n3lthon_: not sure, maybe others can help
[16:05] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, what's a 10.42.0.0/24 network ?
[16:06] <mathi> rocket_hamster, I opened additional startup programs and added "/usr/local/bin/noip2", but the process isn't running after reboot
[16:06] <mathi> rocket_hamster, can you please help
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: 10.42.0.1 to 10.42.0.254 IPs
[16:06] <a-l-e> BluesKaj:  yep, it should work. and i'm looking for an howto explaining how to do it.
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: th /24 dictates the left most binary values are for the network, the rest for hosts
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: its a common network for home grade routers. Something like 192.168.0.0/24 :)
[16:09] <n3lthon_> ActionParsnip: thanks, hope that someone else can help me :/
[16:09] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip, thanks, I assume these IPs are assigned by certain router brands
[16:09] <Braden`> Hello
[16:09] <Braden`> Is there a way to install openjdk without having to install x11?  I don't want xwindows on my server
[16:09] <rocket_hamster> @mathi are you sure it is not running?
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: there are countless 192.168.0.0/24 networks, they just have a unique IP on the WAN side of the router (which you pay for)
[16:10] <nate__> where does the .action and .do in struts come from. Is that how you access the action name or something
[16:10] <mathi> rocket_hamster, I understand why now, because I need to use "sudo". So I need another way to add this program in startup...
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: I have a PPA for oracle java 7 if you want....
[16:11] <Braden`> PPA?
[16:11] <jeep> mathi: rc.local can be used to execute stuff
[16:11] <Braden`> Sorry, not familiar with the acronym
[16:11] <Braden`> =]
[16:12] <mathi> jeep how can I add a command to rc.local ?
[16:12] <rocket_hamster> @mathi http://tempvariable.blogspot.sk/2009/07/how-to-add-program-to-run-at-startup-in.html
[16:12] <jeep> mathi: with a text editor
[16:12] <mathi> jeep, rocket_hamster,  i tried something, I will reboot now
[16:13] <mathi> thanks! hope it works!
[16:13] <daemongpl> Barden: Personal Package Archive
[16:13] <Braden`> Sure, that would be great
[16:15] <ldiamond> How do I create a panel icon/shortcut that will change the default grub entry and reboot into windows automatically? Without asking for a password (when I restart it doesn't ask me for a pw)
[16:15] <Braden`> ActionParsnip:  I would appreciate it if you could send that to me please.  Otherwise, I am going to have to try and find out a way to install openjdk without having to install x11...
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: sure
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/java; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install oracle-java7-installer
[16:19] <sfears> i was having problems with the webupd8team repository the other day
[16:20] <n3lthon_> ActionParsnip: output from fdisk -l : http://pastie.org/4690942
[16:21] <Braden`> ActionParsnip:  It still wants to install x11-common.  That does not mean its going to install xwindows does it?
[16:22] <sfears> did you try to dd a partition onto your hard drive n3lthon_?
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> Braden`: can you do --no-recommends etc?
[16:25] <sfears> my screen backlight turns off after grub splash... i have to use "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=00" blindly in a console to turn it back on.  I have this problem with Ubuntu 12 & Mint 13.  If i use BackTrack I can see the whole plymouth splash.  Is it a difference in the kernel being used that makes it work by default?
[16:27] <Braden`> That did it
[16:27] <Braden`> Excellent!  Thanks! =]
[16:30] <piezo> hey guys, somebody there?... im using precise, its using upstart, which has its config in /etc/init, do i need /etc/init.d ? cause we dont use sysv init
[16:32] <trism> piezo: some packages don't support upstart yet so /etc/init.d/ is still needed for compatibility
[16:32] <bhast2> When I am install Ubuntu beside Windows 8 when I go to pick the size of the HD is it the one on the left or the right for Ubuntu??
[16:32] <piezo> trism: ill do it myself if i ran into problems
[16:32] <piezo> sure im only running a bare bones system on my panda
[16:33] <sfears> post a screen shot bhast2
[16:33] <piezo> trism: im just coming from a debian system, so ill try it to remove and see if i have some problems
[16:33] <piezo> so generally its safe to remove
[16:33] <piezo> ?
[16:33] <Dan_> I was wondering if anyone could point me in the direction of a good explanation for what belongs in /usr/share ? I'm messing around with Wordpress and the documentation says to put my installation in there but not why it belongs there and I want to understand better.
[16:33] <bhast2> @sfears hold on
[16:35] <dazuko> hello all, i'm here for looking for help.
[16:35] <Troy^> my server doesn't have a monitor connected to it tripped breaker so it wasnt shut down properly.. i turned machine on and it seems as though none of my processes such as ssh and other apps that are daemons aren't starting. so perhaps it's is not booting into ubuntu server would there be a reason for this? do i need to hook it up to a monitor
[16:36] <dazuko> somebody could help me, please?
[16:36] <fluzios> dazuko: hello, some of us is here looking to give help
[16:36] <Troy^> !help | dazuko
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> Dan_: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2010/09/linux-file-system-structure/
[16:37] <dazuko> actually, i want to know how to connect 2 PC's in ubuntu. I'm new in using it.
[16:37] <ubuntucrazy> hello to all
[16:37] <utu-san> dazuko: get a switch and then use ssh
[16:37] <dtruby> Dan_: The Filesystem Hierachy Standard says that /usr/share is supposed to be for architecture independent files (http://refspecs.linuxfoundation.org/FHS_2.3/fhs-2.3.html#USRSHAREARCHITECTUREINDEPENDENTDATA)
[16:37] <imissfloppy> hi everyone, i just formatted my pc with ubuntu but i accidentally deleted my partition table on the second drive. Any way i can restore it ?
[16:37] <imissfloppy> i am on windows 7 currently
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: connect in what way?
[16:38] <Shadal> hey guru's ... Every couple of minutes my system is logging the following...
[16:38] <Shadal> kernel: iptables denied: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=01:00:5e:00:00:01:00:25:90:3d:47:82:08:00 SRC=0.0.0.0 DST=224.0.0.1 LEN=32 TOS=0x00 PREC=0xC0 TTL=1 ID=0 DF PROTO=2
[16:38] <Shadal> Do I have an error in my config somewhere?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: use your backups
[16:38] <dazuko> i need to connect through LAN cable.
[16:38] <utu-san> dazuko: routers works too
[16:38] <imissfloppy> ActionParsnip: what backup ?
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: to achieve what?
[16:38] <imissfloppy> i was on a live cd :(
[16:38] <bhast2> http://cubeupload.com/im/MIYP3D.jpg
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: the bacjkups you make of your data
[16:38] <Troy^> dazuko: you talking about internet sharing? or just sharing files?
[16:39] <imissfloppy> ActionParsnip: the backups WAS on the second drive :(
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: ping the server, it uses TCP so is a connection
[16:39] <imissfloppy> this is what i lost
[16:39] <dazuko> i just want to share some folders in my PC's.
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: then run another backup and it will recreate the data, surely?
[16:39] <virpara> Braden`>> http://askubuntu.com/questions/4983/what-are-ppas-and-how-do-i-use-them
[16:39] <virpara> Braden`>>  go there to know about PPA
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: good, thats a LOT more than 'connect' isn't it....
[16:39] <utu-san> dazuko: just coonect both pc to the same router/switch
[16:39] <bhast2> sfears: http://cubeupload.com/im/MIYP3D.jpg
[16:39] <imissfloppy> ActionParsnip: how do i run another backup, what app should i use ?
[16:40] <utu-san> connect*
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: if it is between 2 ubuntu systems you can install openssh-server and nautilus can mount the SFTP
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: whatever you used before
[16:40] <dazuko> is there any link to show me how? i do really "blind" in my new ubuntu machine :)
[16:41] <ubuntucrazy> im having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!
[16:41] <imissfloppy> ActionParsnip: eum, i formated with a live cd
[16:41] <Troy^> dazuko: here is how to install ssh https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openssh-server.html
[16:41] <imissfloppy> ActionParsnip: there is no backup....
[16:41] <phoenixman> hi, i am trying to install windows 7 as the second operating system in my HDD, which already has Ubuntu 12.04, but i am getting an error "setup was unable to create a new system partition or locate an existing system partition. see the setup log files for more information"
[16:41] <ubuntucrazy> im having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> dashavoo: install openssh-server on the system you want access to, the in nautilus use the connect to server feature
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: I thought you said the wiped drive was a backup...
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> imissfloppy: therefore the data which you had backed up but now lost still has the standing original. You can reback it up
[16:42] <dazuko> well, i will open the link first. i'll be coming back if i find more problem :) thanks.
[16:42] <Dan_> dtruby, thanks. It also says it should be for files that don't get modified, but a wordpress install is constantly being modified no?
[16:43] <bhast2> When installing Ubuntu beside Windows when making the HD partition for Ubuntu is it the one on the left or the right http://cubeupload.com/im/MIYP3D.jpg
[16:43] <ubuntucrazy> how do i edit grub in the command line?
[16:44] <David-A> imissfloppy: if only partition table was corrupted and not the data, testdisk may be able to restore it
[16:44] <ubuntucrazy> what's the command keys?
[16:45] <fluzios> bhast2: http://askubuntu.com/questions/138510/in-the-installer-when-splitting-an-existing-partition-which-side-is-which
[16:45] <bhast2> thanks fluzios
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> ubuntucrazy: what do you want to achieve?
[16:45] <fluzios> bhast2: press the Alt key
[16:46] <David-A> imissfloppy: (and i dont understand when you say you lost data when the backup was destroyed. with a backup you have the data in 2 places. if either is lost, the other remains.)
[16:46] <dtruby> Dan_: afaik anything in /usr is supposed to be read-only. Would the wordpress install actually keep the blog files in it's install directory? I don't know anything about wordpress but I'd assume the install directory doesn't get modified much
[16:47] <bhast2> nice fluzios
[16:47] <bhast2> didn't know you could do that
[16:48] <bhast2> finally installing Ubuntu
[16:48] <Dan_> dtruby, yeah, wordpress keeps everything in a single directory. I suppose the files wouldn't get modified much once the install is up and running other than user uploaded content (images, attachments, etc)
[16:48] <bhast2> if i like it I may just switch fully to it
[16:48] <Troy^> ok i have a question, I have my external drive in my fstab i noticed on boot when not connected i have to hit 'S' to bypass this point is there some sort of parameter to put in fstab to just skip past if it does not detect the external drive?
[16:48] <fluzios> bhast2: i didn't either, kinda sad that there isn't a "more info"-button
[16:49] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> ubuntucrazy: in what way do you want to edit grub?
[16:49] <ShapeShifter499> what would you suggest if I wanted to have a automatic import/move of all my photos whenever there is a new one  found to a folder without overwriting every 15 or more minutes?  I am currently running ubuntu 12.04 and I'm not quite sure how to set it up
[16:49] <bhast2> fluzios: Yeah that would be nice
[16:49] <phoenixman> has any one read my post?
[16:49] <tzvi> hi i jost downloaded by mistake a update for my linux kernel firmware and my somputer dosent work well something is wrong with it, how can i uninstall the update?
[16:49] <ActionParsnip> ShapeShifter499: you could cron an rsync command
[16:50] <ActionParsnip> phoenixman: you will need to boot to ubuntu liveCD to resize the ubuntu partition
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> phoenixman: once you get windows installed you will need to boot back to the liveCD to reinstate grub as the Windows installer will overwrite the MBR
[16:51] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, i know that part
[16:51] <dazuko> BTW, can i just set a wired connection between 2 PC's through "Network Connection" menu? I'm still waiting for open-ssh installation to complete coz my internet is so slow.
[16:51] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, i have formated a 100GB partition to ntfs for windows to install on it
[16:51] <tzvi> how can  uninstall a linux kernel firmware update?
[16:51] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, but its not getting installed on it
[16:51] <dtruby> Dan_: Possibly if you were strictly following the FHS you could put it in /opt/wordpress or something similar. /opt is intended for third-party software and there's no limitation on its use. Unless you're planning on mounting /usr read-only it doesn't really matter that much though
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> phoenixman: I'd make it unpartitioned and let the windows installer use the space and format it itself
[16:52] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, you mean keep it unallocated and let the windows do its stuff
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> phoenixman: yes
[16:52] <Dan_> dtruby, thanks, the more I'm talking to people about this the more I'm realizing this is just one of those "quirky linux things" that makes it tough for noobs like me :)
[16:52] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, i tried that, but no success
[16:53] <Dan_> dtruby, I think I'm just going to put it in /usr/share and change the permissions to allow the www-data group to edit all that. Seems like the way to go
[16:53] <phoenixman> ActionParsnip, should i be asking this in some other channel?
[16:53] <Dan_> dtruby, thanks for helping me work it out!
[16:53] <ssta> Dan_: if you install WP from the repo, it doesn't keep files in /usr.  It keeps them in /var/lib (with a symlink)
[16:53] <ActionParsnip> phoenixman: could try in ##windows
[16:53] <Troy^> ok i have a question, I have my external drive in my fstab i noticed on boot when not connected i have to hit 'S' to bypass this point is there some sort of parameter to put in fstab to just skip past if it does not detect the external drive?
[16:54] <Dan_> ssta, really? I haven't tried it but just read someone else say that the repo installs it to /usr/share and you put a simlink in /var/www
[16:54] <ssta> Dan_: lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28 Jan 16  2012 blogs.dir -> /var/lib/wordpress/blogs.dir
[16:54] <auronandace> Troy^: why did you add it to fstab?
[16:54] <sfears> my screen backlight turns off after grub and i don't see a splash... i have to use "setpci -s 00:02.0 F4.B=00" blindly in a console after boot to turn it back on.  This happens with Ubuntu 12 & Mint 13.  If i use BackTrack I can see the whole splash, no problems at all.  Is it the kernel being used that makes a difference or can i cut a part out of something backtrack uses?
[16:54] <tomek_> hi folks, maybe someone would be able to give me a hint ;) I installed lubuntu desktop over my ubuntu installation just for checking it out, then I removed it but the lubuntu splash screen remains while booting or shutting down. any idea how to fix this?
[16:54] <ssta> Dan_: if you install from the repo you get a much better install than that...and get timely security updates.  This is why installing from repos is recommended
[16:55] <phoenixman> does linux have any thing called dynamic disc or basic disc?
[16:55] <sfears> tomek_: apt-cache search plymouth theme
[16:55] <bhast2> when you have two montiors does it always mirror
[16:55] <ActionParsnip> sfears: if you add it to the startup adds it will run after login
[16:55] <Dan_> ssta, I definitely believe you :) I'm partly just doing this to learn wtf is going on and why, not so much get it done for a production environment
[16:55] <Troy^> auronandace: headless server
[16:55] <ubuntucrazy> im having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> sfears: could add it in /etc/rc.local above the 'exit 0' line and it may help too
[16:56] <sfears> i have that part done ActionParsnip, but i still have no splash.  but it works fine with backtrack and i'm trying to find out where
[16:56] <ssta> Dan_: install to a VM and play with stuff...take it apart to see how it works.  In general the design choices made by Debian are pretty good
[16:56] <sfears> i've edited a couple of the grub.cfg lines but nothing worked
[16:56] <Dan_> ssta: one step ahead of you :) I'm on my 3rd vm right now (I break a lot of stuff)
[16:57] <sfears> i've added a line to rc.local and added a few scripts to turn it back on after sleep ActionParsnip.  but i'd still like to figure out where it's not working on boot
[16:57] <dtruby> Dan_: breaking stuff in VMs is always the best way to learn how this stuff works imho :-)
[16:58] <ssta> Dan_: one of the principles is that /usr can be read only.  If there's a package that violates that, it's a bug and should be reported as such
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Dan_: just backup the disk image and play, then when you want a reinstall just take a copy of the disk image
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> Dan_: saves having to wait for reinstalls
[16:59] <sfears> any other ideas ActionParsnip?  Is there something I can compile in a kernel to turn it on?
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> sfears: are there any bugs reported, otherwise no idea
[17:01] <sfears> yeah, lots of bugs.  They all say to add the line to rc.local, but that's not deep enough
[17:02] <dazuko> well, somebody please show me how to set LAN between 2 PC's using Network Manager :)
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> sfears: tried Quantal installed on USB. See if it's the same?
[17:02] <tomek_> sfears: thx a lot
[17:03] <sfears> i've tried the backtrack livecd ActionParsnip, and it stays lit the whole time.  but ubuntu & linux mint turn off right after grub
[17:04] <sfears> quantal 12.04.1 ActionParsnip?
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> sfears: no, quantal is ubuntu 12.10 released next month but is in beta now
[17:05] <sfears> humm, i guess i have not
[17:06] <fluzios> bhast2: no, you can have bigger desktop: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2009/08/ubuntu-tips-how-to-setup-dual-monitor/
[17:06] <FrozenFire> Running 12.04, and finding that Warsow isn't in the Ubuntu repos any more (including partner repos). Any clue as to where I might be able to get it?
[17:07] <ubuntucrazy> im having problem with ubuntu 12.04 i got "input not supprted" on my screen. i tried the forums but i don't know how to enter the Safe Graphics Mode to configure the screen size that causes "Input not Supported" msg. please help!
[17:07] <ubuntucrazy> any tips on how to restore my dsktop?
[17:07] <dubaco> ubuntucrazy:  have you backed up?
[17:07] <ubuntucrazy> no not yet
[17:08] <ubuntucrazy> how do i back up?
[17:08] <dubaco> !backup
[17:08] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: has your screen ever worked ? or did it never work ?
[17:09] <greenit> hi, can i change the background of the grub anyhow?
[17:09] <sfears> ubuntucrazy: at the grub screen press e for edit and add nomodeset to the end of the line
[17:09] <dubaco> ikonia: thats the same question twice
[17:09] <ikonia> greenit: SPLASHIMAGE is the parameter
[17:09] <ikonia> dubaco: thanks for the worthless input
[17:09] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: yes my desktop worked before i upgraded
[17:09] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: ok, so it's the upgrade that broke it
[17:10] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: what video card do you have ?
[17:10] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: matrox
[17:10] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: ok, so an ATI
[17:10] <a-l-e> i have ubuntu in a virtual machine... what's the correct way to add the virtualbox additions?
[17:10] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: the upgrade was from 11.10 to 12.04 ? or some other version
[17:10] <dr_willis> ati bought matrox?
[17:10] <ubuntucrazy> pci
[17:11] <ikonia> dr_willis: not %100 certain
[17:11] <a-l-e> (btw, ikonia, i'm getting good help on launchpad to create a ppa)
[17:11] <ikonia> a-l-e: I'm not interested.
[17:11] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: yes from 11.10 to 12.04
[17:11] <dr_willis> !vbox
[17:11] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: can you be specific about the card make/model
[17:11] <ikonia> dr_willis: good spot, they are still "their own brand"
[17:11] <ubuntucrazy> wait
[17:12] <bhast2> there we go
[17:13] <bhast2> fluzios : Thanks
[17:13] <Melampo> Guys can a ask you a question about IRC and xChat?
[17:13] <FlowRiser> Melampo, don't ask to ask, just ask :)
[17:13] <Melampo> I need to associate IRC link to xchat when I'm using Firefox
[17:14] <Melampo> so that, when I click an a channel link, xchat connets to that particolar channel
[17:15] <FlowRiser> Melampo, i think you need to write an extension to firefox
[17:15] <Melampo> write an entire extension?!
[17:15] <Melampo> Like in about:config?
[17:16] <FlowRiser> Melampo, it's not as hard as it sounds; just an extension to open an application;
[17:17] <Melampo> well, I don't even know how to begin
[17:18] <FlowRiser> Melampo, ask around, maybe on a Firefox channel ? it might be an even easier solution
[17:18] <Melampo> I'll try
[17:18] <Melampo> thanks
[17:18] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: my graphics cardi is Matrox Graphics 32MB
[17:19] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: ok,
[17:19] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: do you know how to boot into recovery mode ?
[17:19] <FlowRiser> Melampo, also, get interested in opening xchat via a terminal and add channels and such
[17:19] <Melampo> how do I do that?
[17:20] <ubuntucrazy> sfears: should choose a kernel at the grub screen to edit and add nomodeset at the end?
[17:21] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: how do i boot in recovery mode?
[17:21] <FlowRiser> Melampo, easy: type in terminal "man xchat"
[17:21] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: you should have a recovery option on your grub menu
[17:22] <ash_> hi
[17:22] <ash_> anybody here
[17:22] <ash_> on Ubuntu?
[17:22] <ash_> :p
[17:22] <FloodBot1> ash_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:22] <ash_> Opes i am really sorry ;) juste wanted to know if anybody use Ubuntu ? :P
[17:23] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: yes. i did use all the recovery mode options at the grub menu but still the same
[17:23] <FlowRiser> !xchat
[17:23] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: really, you still get that if you hit the recovery shell option
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> ash_: obviously, yes...
[17:26] <thequestionaire> Hi all ;)
[17:28] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: yes. all the options still the same
[17:28] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: ok, so we know it's the framebuffer rather than X that's the issue in this situation
[17:28] <thequestionaire> What do you think is most stable
[17:28] <thequestionaire> 10.04 10.10 11.04 11.10 or 12.04 ?
[17:29] <ikonia> thequestionaire: depends on many things, the LTS versions are normally a better option for long term stability
[17:29] <ActionParsnip> thequestionaire: 10.10 is no longer supported, 11.04 is nearly EOL and 10.04 desktop + 11.10 are EOL in April next year. So I'd go for 12.04
[17:30] <thequestionaire> ok should i install 12.04 or 12.04.1
[17:30] <theadmin> Ok, I'm on Kubuntu 12.04 and I have a silly problem. I can't find the Flash settings (installed Flash using flashplugin-installer from the repos).
[17:30] <dazuko> hello again :) i have just installed openssh-client and server to connect my PC's as my plan. Then, what should i do next? I want to build a LAN connection.
[17:30] <ActionParsnip> thequestionaire: they are the same difference, as soon as you install 12.04 and run updates, you will have 12.04.1
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: don't you mean file share?
[17:31] <thequestionaire> well my neighbour says that i  never should take the .1 / .2 or so releases
[17:31] <Troy^> grr just lost all my music data
[17:31] <Troy^> lol
[17:31] <xangua>  theadmin if you mean a Menu entry for flash settings, you need adobe-flashplugin from Partner repository for that
[17:31] <dazuko> yes, for a file/folder sharing :)
[17:31] <theadmin> xangua: Oh geez, thanks
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: dude you really need to drop this 'connection' word. It means nothing at all
[17:31] <thequestionaire> well my neighbour says that i  never should take the .1 / .2 or so releases
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: open nautils and click file -> connect to serve and you can enter the IP and credentials on the other side and you will see the data
[17:32] <ActionParsnip> dazuko: as you are using SFTP, you can port forward on the router and access the data from anywhere on the web securely
[17:32] <ubuntucrazy> ikonia: what to do if it's the framebuffer that causes the issue? any steps?
[17:32] <Kroach> when publishing an Ubuntu One file using the context menu in Nautilus, is there a way to get the URL without going to the U1 web intereface?
[17:32] <xangua> thequestionaire: sounds like your neighbour doesn't install security updates
[17:33] <jake_> any alternative pulseaudio
[17:33]  * bhast2 is still installing
[17:33] <bhast2> this is taking awhile
[17:34] <thequestionaire> xangua, he said updates are making the pc slower and more unsafe and he also said that the 12.04 mark shuttleworth himself built and1 2.04.1 is a community project
[17:34] <thequestionaire> .
[17:34] <xangua> security updates make system unsafe... wow
[17:35] <BluesKaj> jake_, only if you don't mind no audio on websites , afaik
[17:35] <Flannel> thequestionaire: your neighbor is incorrect on a number of points.  You actually can't even get 12.04 anymore, only 12.04.1
[17:36] <tprice> im getting this error with UEC "Error 60: server certificate verification failed. CAfile: /etc/ssl/certs/ca-certificates.crt CRLfile: none" is anyone else getting the same error? is there a fix i can do it get it working?
[17:36] <Tico> I got stuck at ubuntu splash screen with five dots on ubuntu 12.04
[17:36] <dr_willis> 12.04.1 is 12.04 with the updates included on the iso.
[17:37] <ActionParsnip> Tico: what GPU do you use?
[17:37] <jake_> BluesKay, lame
[17:37] <ash_> Ubuntu 12.04 is really ok compair to the previous one, its just that bar on the left :( I dont like it, does anyobdy know how to remove it?
[17:37] <Tico> ActionParsnip: 2,5GHz intel core i5
[17:37] <theadmin> !notunity | ash_
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> ash_: install the gnome-panel package and log off, then select the new session
[17:38] <theadmin> xangua: Thanks, that solved it :)
[17:38] <ActionParsnip> ash_: or install a different desktop and sidestep gnome all together :)
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Tico: no, the GPU, not the CPU
[17:39] <ActionParsnip> Tico: the video chip
[17:40] <BluesKaj> lame and pulseaudio are 2 different apps with different uses. jake_ ...pulseaudio is a sound server , lame is a mp3 app
[17:41] <ash_> @ubottu  (Thanks you a lot my friend i will give  a try to this ) :)
[17:43] <ActionParsnip> !bot | ash_
[17:43] <raven> hi
[17:43] <jake_> haha misunderstanding i know that i was just stating fact BluesKay
[17:44] <raven> i still have some rights-problems with tightvncserver and virtual desktop environment - need help please
[17:44] <Tico> ActionParsnip: Intel HD Graphics 4000 384 MB
[17:45] <bhast2> install takes forever when you pick install updates lol
[17:45] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | Tico
[17:46] <^GeCk0^> is there any working version from spotify for ubuntu ?
[17:46] <smt> hi, i changed hardware, and the new motherboard brought an intel hda chipset with it, i do have sound cause alsa seems to be working, but i cannot control it properly cause pulseaudio doesnt work anymore, any help on that?
[17:46] <Tico> ActionParsnip: i use nointremap, it used to work before, now i got stuck at splash screen
[17:47] <^GeCk0^> smt,  try the 2.0 version of pulse audio
[17:47] <^GeCk0^> there is an ppa
[17:47] <jake_> whats the ppa? GeCkO
[17:48] <smt> thats the question
[17:48] <smt> ubuntu audio dev team ppa?
[17:49] <^GeCk0^> smt, ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/pulse-testing
[17:49] <thomasu> well I forgot my root pw any suggestions?
[17:49] <kostkon> smt, try deleting the .pulse folder
[17:49] <greenit> ikonia, sry that i answer now, but how can i set the background of the grub from the violet-thingy which is default to black with splashimage?
[17:49] <jrib> thomasu: there is no root password by default.  Do you mean you forgot your first user's password?
[17:49] <smt> kostkon: i already tried that
[17:49] <thomasu> yeah :P
[17:49] <kostkon> smt, did you logout and login again after doing that?
[17:49] <jrib> !password | thomasu
[17:50] <smt> shure
[17:50] <thedangler> how should I go about troubleshooting ubuntu not able to receive and connections.  I can ping out, use the internet, but I can't seem to ping to the ubuntu box.
[17:50] <kostkon> smt, k
[17:50] <thedangler> receive any*
[17:50] <thomasu> !password | thomasu
[17:50] <kostkon> smt, did you try to setup your sound in the sound preferences?
[17:50] <mutio> smt, did you do a full shutdown and restart?
[17:51] <smt> i cant even open the sound preferences, it only tells "waiting for sound system"
[17:51] <smt> yes i did a full shutdown
[17:51] <Tico> ActionParsnip: or is it same?
[17:52] <kostkon> smt, does ps -A | grep pulseaudio output anything?
[17:52] <smt> nope
[17:52] <kostkon> hmm
[17:52] <mutio> smt, I wonder what the chances are that pulseaudio doesn't support your new hardware?
[17:53] <bhast2> what is the best way to view my ntfs partition
[17:53] <kostkon> smt, try starting it, give: pulseaudio -D
[17:54] <mutio> bhast2 // mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd? /?
[17:54] <gzmask> is ubuntu 12.04 64bit compatible with sony vaio t series ?
[17:54] <smt> smt@smt:~$ pulseaudio -D
[17:54] <smt> E: main.c: Start des Daemons fehlgeschlagen.
[17:54] <smt> smt@smt:~$ pulseaudio
[17:54] <smt> N: alsa-util.c: Disabling timer-based scheduling because high-resolution timers are not available from the kernel.
[17:54] <smt> E: module.c: Failed to load  module "module-alsa-sink" (argument: "device=hw:0"): initialization failed.
[17:54] <smt> E: main.c: Module load failed.
[17:54] <smt> E: main.c: Konnte Daemon nicht initialisieren.
[17:54] <FloodBot1> smt: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:54] <kostkon> hmm
[17:55] <mutio> smt, looks like alsa doesn't support your hw either
[17:55] <smt> it does, i can hear something, and i can control it via alsamixer
[17:55] <bhast2_> got disconnected
[17:55] <shwaiil_> Q: Anyone here tested Sony Vegas  on a VM ? thanks
[17:56] <smt> (might be some fallback...)
[17:56] <bhast2_> what is the be way to see my windows HD
[17:56] <mutio> bhast2_ // mount -t ntfs-3g /dev/sd? /?
[17:56] <Markus_on_Ubuntu> My Mic doesn't work in pulseaudio, but I can get alsamixer to feed it beck to the speaker, can someone help me debug this?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> Htbrdd: is it an internal partiion?
[17:57] <bhast2_> thanks
[17:58] <Markus_on_Ubuntu> From what I read on the internet pulseaudio sits on top of alsa, but what exactly is the path for the microphone?
[17:58] <kostkon> smt, does  fuser -v /dev/snd/* /dev/dsp*  output anything?
[17:58] <Markus_on_Ubuntu> What channels do I need to mute or unmute in alsamixer?
[17:59] <smt> kostkon: yes it does
[17:59] <kostkon> smt, paste the output somewhere, e.g. paste.ubuntu.com
[17:59] <smt> only snd, nothing dsp
[18:01] <smt> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195138/
[18:02] <mutio> smt, there's probably alternatives to pulseaudio
[18:02] <kostkon> smt, iinteresting. ok try this. close totem. give again the last cmd and make sure that it doesnt show totem again and then try to start pulseuadio again:  pulseaudio -D
[18:02] <BluesKaj> Markus_on_Ubuntu, dpends what channels/controls are not going to be used
[18:03] <smt> kostkon: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195140/
[18:04] <kostkon> smt, does now  ps -A | grep pulseaudio  output something
[18:05] <smt> yep one line
[18:05] <smt> 21230 ?        00:00:00 pulseaudio
[18:05] <kostkon> smt, nice. dont open anything media app yet. now try to setup your sound again in your sound prefs
[18:05] <kostkon> smt, i think you should be ok now
[18:05] <kostkon> any media app*
[18:06] <ikonia> ubuntucrazy: sorry, I was just dealing with something else, how are you progressing ?
[18:06] <ChaoticanarchyX> hi all anyone free to help someone out with a problem or two?
[18:07] <smt> kostkon, works great, but will it still work after a reboot?
[18:07] <kostkon> smt, to test it, just logout and login again. good luck :P
[18:07] <bhast2> what is the best way to burn a avi file in ubuntu
[18:08] <mbalmer> print it out and light the paper?
[18:08] <Eagleman> What is a nightly?
[18:08] <bhast2> wow ubuntu is smooth
[18:08] <bhast2> first time installing it without vm
[18:09] <Troy^> bhast2: of course. as long as hardware is good
[18:09] <bhast2> program to burn a movie??
[18:10] <auronandace> !burn | bhast2
[18:10] <auronandace> bhast2: i like xfburn
[18:10] <baizon> indeed xfburn
[18:10] <bhast2> thanks guys
[18:10] <bhast2> going to be hard to boot into windows lol
[18:11] <bhast2> any way to auto auth
[18:11] <bhast2> so I don't have to put in my password everytime I install something
[18:11] <Troy^> bhast2: there is a timer on sudo command
[18:11] <bhast2> how do I do that
[18:11] <smt> kostkon: it works, (tried a full reboot too) i dont have any idea what changed but thanks anyway
[18:12] <kostkon> smt, np :)
[18:12] <Markus_on_Ubuntu> BluesKaj, if I unmute the "Front Mic" in alsamixer I can hear myself on the speaker, but I don't get any access to my mic from any application.
[18:12] <ChaoticanarchyX> can anyone help me with making my display stop going into standby after ten minutes?
[18:12] <Troy^> bhast2: no idea and i wouldn't change it, it makes your system secure. when you use the command line more you will find out sudo is the samething as that prompt for password. it basically allows you to make system changes
[18:12] <bhast2> ok
[18:12] <bhast2> thanks
[18:13] <bhast2> any one want to recommand programs for ubuntu
[18:13] <ChaoticanarchyX> OGM RIP
[18:13] <ChaoticanarchyX> good rip program
[18:13] <mutio> bhast2 // prgrams to do what?
[18:15] <Eagleman> Which version of ejabberd is in the repository?
[18:15] <bhast2> some programs that are a must have for ubuntu
[18:16] <auronandace> bhast2: only you can answer that question
[18:16] <mutio> bhast2 // there are a huge number of linux apps around, and most of them will run on ubuntu
[18:16] <Troy^> bhast2: http://omgubuntu.co.uk does reviews on some neat apps sometimes but really that is a broad question
[18:16] <auronandace> bhast2: it all depends on what you want to do
[18:16] <BluesKaj> Markus_on_Ubuntu, most applications for recording or hearing a mic thru them have settings in them that link to alsa , so look in the app you're using
[18:17] <bhast2> thanks Troy
[18:17] <WeThePeople> is it possible to have a secure wifi connection at a motel
[18:17] <Troy^> bhast2: Smuxi is a very neat irc client if your looking for something neat
[18:18] <BluesKaj> WeThePeople, doubtful
[18:18] <bhast2> ok cause I am using xchat
[18:18] <bhast2> I will look at it
[18:18] <Markus_on_Ubuntu> I thought, all gnome apps would go through pulseaudio.
[18:18] <mutio> WeThePeople // the owners of the motel will be giggling at all your web browsing
[18:19] <WeThePeople> not really
[18:19] <BluesKaj> they do Markus_on_Ubuntu , but they source from alsa , except webaudio
[18:20] <BluesKaj> Markus_on_Ubuntu, you could try pavucontrol , for input and output settings  , it should work
[18:21] <mutio> WeThePeople // the point being that as the providers of the wifi, they can have as much access to every packet as they want to, which mught mean they'll be giggling like Beavis and Butthead
[18:22] <WeThePeople> mutio, im talking about other guests
[18:22] <Eagleman> Which version of ejabberd is in the repository?
[18:22] <WeThePeople> secure from other guests
[18:23] <auronandace> !info ejabberd | Eagleman
[18:24] <Tico> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS fails to start LightDM Display manager and i gets stuck at ubuntu splash scren, someone can help me with it?
[18:24] <Eagleman> auronandace aand what if i need 2.1.6?
[18:25] <Chris123> hey guys
[18:26] <auronandace> Eagleman: are you running 12.04
[18:26] <Eagleman> yesa
[18:26] <sfears> ubuntucrazy: what's up?
[18:26] <auronandace> Eagleman: why do you need that version?
[18:26] <Eagleman> for Acrhipel
[18:27] <Chris123> can somebody help me?
[18:27] <auronandace> Eagleman: whats that?
[18:27] <rocky_> hello folks
[18:27] <Eagleman> A KVM manager
[18:27] <Tico> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS fails to start LightDM Display manager and i gets stuck at ubuntu splash screen https://www.dropbox.com/s/mn0k70gvtf72ch9/2012-09-09%2020.18.51.jpg
[18:27] <pth> Chris123: What is your problem?
[18:29] <rocky_> i have a question how to copy pwd to clipboard, i know this can be done thru mouse right click or using shift insert, i am looking for a commond to copy pwd to clipboard
[18:29] <Eagleman> So auronandace how do i get 2.1.6?
[18:30] <Scott___> rocky_: CTRL+C ?
[18:30] <rocky_> Scott___, this is cancel command shortcut
[18:30] <auronandace> Eagleman: why won't 2.1.10 work?
[18:30] <Chris123> pth: I was trying to install Ubuntu but it didn?t work until I changed the "OS Installer" (or something like this) option in the BIOS to "Others" instead of "Windows". After Ubuntu was installed alongside Win7 I tried booting Win7 again but I got stuck at a black screen. Setting the Option back to "Windows" didn?t solve the problem so I formatted my hard drive. Is there another way to somehow install Ubuntu alongside Win7?
[18:30] <Scott___> rocky_, ctrl+shift+c then
[18:30] <Eagleman> o wait
[18:31] <Eagleman> i am sorry
[18:31] <Eagleman> i tought it was 2.1.6
[18:31] <Eagleman> so it should work
[18:31] <dr_willis> !info xclip
[18:31] <rocky_> Scott___, this doesn't works
[18:32] <mutio> Chris123 // did you install to a separate harddrive or to the same one?
[18:32] <dr_willis> theres a few cli clipboard tools in the repos
[18:32] <pth> rocky_: How about xclip: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/xclip-linux-insert-files-command-output-intoclipboard/
[18:32] <Chris123> mutio it was on the same harddrive
[18:32] <wilee-nilee> Chris123, This a msdos partitioning setup?
[18:33] <mutio> Chris123 // then it's quite possible you broke win 7's boot sector
[18:33] <Chris123> wilee-nilee Can you explain to me what you mean by this?
[18:33] <Chris123> mutio what was my mistake?
[18:33] <mutio> Chris123 // it's safer to install to a separate harddrive
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> Chris123, Some HD's have a gpt setup or remnants of one can you rub sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the results.
[18:34] <Chris123> mutio I only got one but would installing it to another partition solve the problem?
[18:34] <wilee-nilee> run*
[18:34] <Jordan_U> Chris123: mutio: It's perfectly safe to install both OSs to the same drive.
[18:35] <Chris123> wilee-nilee Im on windows atm.
[18:35] <Jordan_U> Chris123: You've already "formatted" the drive, so you've lost both the original Windows install and the new Ubuntu install?
[18:35] <Chris123> Jordan_U Yes but I can reinstall them ofc
[18:35] <googlefan12> bsod is bad
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> Chris123, Is there an unallocated space now for ubuntu, and do you know the number of partitions you have now, from being loked at from ubuntu?
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> looked*
[18:36] <mutio> Chris123 // did you install ubuntu on the same partition as win 7?
[18:36] <pth> rocky_: pwd | xclip  - did it work?
[18:36] <Jordan_U> Chris123: Do you know if your firmware is UEFI?
[18:36] <wilee-nilee> thats what I wonder as well.
[18:37] <googlefan12> ...
[18:37] <Chris123> wilee-nilee Uh I used the "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows7" so I guess Ubuntu managed the partitions but there was no unallocated space before I did this
[18:37] <googlefan12> im waiting for the train...
[18:37] <Chris123> mutio yes it was the same partition
[18:38] <rocky_> pth, sorry this did not worked
[18:38] <wilee-nilee> Chris123, Ah well your best help here is Jordan_U if they have the time to help you. ;)
[18:38] <rocky_> it is not copying to clipboard
[18:38] <Chris123> Jordan_U No i don?t know. Where can I display it?
[18:39] <dr_willis> rocky_:  the gnome clipbord is not the same as the x selection buffer. xclip may need some options, or you may need a tool like glipper to sync the 2
[18:39] <mutio> Chris123 // if you don't have a second harddrive, the next safest option is to install ubuntu on a separate partition
[18:39] <Chris123> mutio Alright. That?s probably what Im going to do next.
[18:40] <Jordan_U> Chris123: It would be somewhere in your motherboard's documentation, and there's probably a way to tell if Windows was installed via UEFI from within Windows but I don't know it.
[18:40] <mutio> Chris123 // after you partition the drive, you'd need to reinstall windows first before ubuntu
[18:40] <pth> rocky_: It is working for me. Which application do you want to paste into?
[18:41] <rocky_> i am just right clicking on the console itself and paste
[18:41] <Jordan_U> Chris123: I would recommend simply installing Ubuntu again, using the guided partitioning rather than setting anything up manually, and come back here if you have problems booting Windows again and we'll get you fixed up.
[18:41] <rocky_> pth,  i am just right clicking on the console itself and paste
[18:41] <rocky_> pth, or even in the browser also
[18:42] <exodus> Chris123, what seems to be the problem?
[18:42] <Chris123> Jordan_U I did use the guided partitioning thats why Im confused what couldve gone wrong.
[18:42] <pth> rocky: If I write "pwd | xclip" and afterwards press the middle button inside the window, the present directory path is pasted into the window.
[18:42] <Chris123> mutio Yes I did install windows already.
[18:42] <pth> rocky_: That's the middle mouse button.
[18:42] <rocky_> pth, i am using laptop mousepad
[18:43] <Jordan_U> Chris123: It's hard to tell without being able to look at how things ended up after the install. If the same thing happens again, it should be pretty easy for me to figure out why and how to fix it.
[18:43] <pth> rocky_: Me too.
[18:43] <Chris123> exodus I installed Ubuntu alongside Win7, before I could do this I set "OS Installer" option in the BIOS from "Windows" to "Others" (dont know if this is important), then installed ubuntu, I could boot ubuntu but not Win7 after the instalation was completed
[18:43] <pth> rocky_: Do you have a middel button
[18:43] <exodus> Chris-D, was Windows an option in the boot menu?
[18:44] <Trijit> any1 familiar with cisco vpn client on ubunrtu?
[18:44] <googlefan12> This is the first time I heard Pizza Hut!!! I had no idea there was a Pizza Hut version. Wow...﻿ ya learn something new everyday!!!
[18:44] <rocky_> pth, i think it can click with both mouse buttons then it works middle
[18:44] <Chris123> Jordan_U Alright thanks for helping, I will install Ubuntu now using the guided partitioning again and come back here if the problem persists.
[18:44] <Chris123> exodus Yes I could chose windows but instead of booting I got stuck at a black screen
[18:45] <Chris123> exodus Ubuntu booted without a problem though
[18:45] <Jordan_U> Chris123: You're welcome.
[18:45] <exodus> Chris-D, ok, is your computer a laptop?
[18:45] <pth> rocky_: Try "pwd | xclip <return>" and then "xclip -o <return>" What does it produce?
[18:45] <Chris123> exodus no
[18:45] <exodus> Chris123, ok, are you familiar with partitions and filesystem terminology?
[18:46] <rocky_> pth, yes it's middle directory
[18:46] <rocky_> pth, sorry it s pwd
[18:46] <Chris123> exodus Not really, I know what a partition is and I know that there are filesystems but thats all
[18:46] <bjv> Using 12.04 just now, my usb input stopped responding again. When i click on unity launch, it just hovers. i cannot click to activate anything, BUT if i close the laptop lid and open, the lockscreen *does* respond to clicks.. when im back to desktop it no longer works. How can i troubleshoot this?
[18:46] <pth> rocky_: Does it work for you? I didnt understand your last two posts.
[18:46] <bjv> very reproducible, well, for now it is. not clear what caused it
[18:46] <n1ckn4me09876543> I have 2 O.S. installed,  I recently installed another one so now there are 3 O.S installed on my hdd,  when I use the UPDATE-GRUB command, it only detects 2 O.S and not the recent one, help!
[18:46] <exodus> Chris123, ok, before you go ahead and reinstall Ubuntu, you can try opening a terminal window in Ubuntu and running a command
[18:46] <rocky_> pth, yes it works thank you
[18:47] <pth> rocky_: Great. Have a good evening!
[18:47] <exodus> Chris123, try "sudo update-grub"
[18:47] <Tico> Hi, starting LightDM Display Manager fails, i found a solution to reinstall lightdm via apt-get but there's no connection to use apt-get?
[18:47] <rocky_> pth, you too
[18:47] <exodus> Chris123, without the quotes of course.
[18:47] <Jordan_U> n1ckn4me09876543: What specifically are the other OSs? Can you pastebin the output of "sudo os-prober"?
[18:47] <bjv> It's clearly not a problem with my input device or drivers, because the loghtscreen works. if i sudo service lightdm restart everything will be fine, (this has happened before)   How can I track down what the problem is?
[18:47] <auronandace> n1ckn4me09876543: what OS's
[18:47] <bjv> *lock
[18:47] <Chris123> exodus I already formatted my hard drive and installed Windows again
[18:48] <Chris123> exodus You could say I panicked :/
[18:48] <exodus> Chris123, haha ok
[18:48] <googlefan12>  Sigourney didn't say "Screw that!" on set.
[18:48] <exodus> Chris-D, Well, doing manual partitioning is something to be done carefully, specially if you have important information
[18:48] <exodus> Chris-D, mistype, sry.
[18:49] <googlefan12> ...
[18:49] <googlefan12> uhh
[18:49] <exodus> Chris123, that was for you. So, pretty much, Windows needs a partition of its own.
[18:49] <Chris123> exodus I did not do it manually, I used the option which the installer gave me
[18:49] <exodus> Chris123, Windows 7 actually uses 2 partitions
[18:49] <googlefan12> POP!!!!
[18:49] <Chris123> exodus Yes I know, thats why I used "Install Ubuntu alongside Windows 7"
[18:49] <Chris123> exodus any chances the installer confused something?
[18:50] <googlefan12> MY WINDOWS XP IS DOWNSTAIRS
[18:50] <exodus> Chris123, ok, it shouldn't have. Try installing Ubuntu now.
[18:50] <exodus> Chris123, it should detect Windows in the proper partition and install.
[18:50] <Chris123> exodus Alright, thank you for your help, hope to see you in some minutes
[18:50] <exodus> Chris123, some computers have weird Windows partitions, sometimes it can get messy.
[18:51] <ozette> how fix audio problems in flash
[18:51] <exodus> Chris123, what's important is to note how many partitions Windows is using.
[18:51] <Foxhound-Z> Can anyone help me configure my wireless USB card?
[18:51] <pth> ozette: Can you be specific?
[18:51] <Foxhound-Z> It's a Tenda w311m ( using Ralink 5370 via lsusb)
[18:51] <Chris123> exodus Windows is on C:, I got a partition for my data D: and "System Reserved K:"
[18:52] <Chris123> exodus I guess K is the second windows partition you are talking about
[18:52] <Foxhound-Z> I installed the drivers following this post:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1800178
[18:52] <Tico> i use ubuntu 12.04 and it fails starting lightdm display manager pls help
[18:52] <exodus> Chris123, I see, ok, let me explain a bit
[18:52] <Bahaman> Hi, does anyone hi im getting a funny message about someone requesting a CTCP VERSION
[18:52] <Bahaman> what is that about? :o
[18:52] <Foxhound-Z> I configured the wireless supplicant.conf file and attempted to connect
[18:52] <Foxhound-Z> but it's not working
[18:52] <n1ckn4me09876543> Jordan_U:  auronandace:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195206/    sda1- Ubuntu 12.04   sda2-Win7  sda3-Win8      win7 is the newly installed one that wont get detected
[18:52] <exodus> Chris123, hard-drives can only have 4 main partitions. They can either be primary, or extended.
[18:52] <exodus> Chris123, extended partitions can contain more partitions
[18:53] <ozette> pth, I'm experiencing sound problems in Chrome and Firefox when I'm at youtube or justintv
[18:53] <ozette> Sound either plays real slow, or real quick
[18:53] <fluzios> Bahaman: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#ctcpversion
[18:53] <n1ckn4me09876543> Jordan_U:  auronandace:    win8 used to be sda2  but when i installed win7  between  ubuntu and win8,  win7 became sda2 and win8 became sda3,  so weird lol
[18:53] <exodus> Chris123, Windows loves taking up primary partitions. So I'm going to guess you have 3 primary partitions, leaving just 1 for Ubuntu which should use an extended partition for all its things. Just go ahead and install Ubuntu with the guided partitioning and come back.
[18:53] <ozette> like my speakers are in water
[18:54] <Chris123> exodus Alright I will do this, thanks once again!
[18:54] <exodus> Chris123, when addressing your issues it's important to talk about your partitions, that will help clarify your problem.
[18:54] <pth> ozette: I have experienced out of sync sound on youtube but not the things you mention, sorry, cant help.
[18:54] <Jordan_U> n1ckn4me09876543: Have you tried booting from the Windows 8 entry?
[18:54] <deadmund> foxbuntu: Are you sure about that chipset?  linuxwireless.org does not list it as supported.
[18:54] <ozette> pth, weird .. I can't even type in the search bar at youtube
[18:54] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, Ralink RT5370?
[18:55] <Foxhoundz> I'm 99% sure.
[18:55] <ozette> pth, are you using 12.04?
[18:55] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: I thought of that.  http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices/USB
[18:55] <pth> ozette: Yes
[18:55] <n1ckn4me09876543> Jordan_U not yet, brb
[18:55] <ozette> pth, This problem is so annoying, Only way to resolve is to restart my system
[18:55] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, well, Ralink supplies its own set of Linux drivers, which I did install
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, and iwconfig ra0 scanning actually works
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> and shows my access point
[18:56] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Then it's working!
[18:56] <deadmund> most likely
[18:56] <pth> ozette: Try chrome://plugins/ in chrome and tell me the version of the flash plugin.
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> BUT...
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> It's not connecting
[18:56] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: What is the issue?
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> for the sake of argument, I disabled all encryption
[18:56] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Have you tried without any encryption?
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> and left my access point open
[18:56] <Foxhoundz> yeap
[18:56] <FloodBot1> Foxhoundz: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:57] <sliddjur> Can someone help me out, i did chmod 760 to a folder. the user is within the correct group, but i still cant enter it. do i need 770?
[18:57] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: What do you see in dmesg about things?  You can pastebin if you want.  I'll be right back in about 5 - 10 minutes (bathroom)
[18:57] <bhast2> i figured it out update the system when I picked update when I installed but I guess not
[18:57] <ozette> Flash (2 files) - Version: 11.3.31.232,  Shockwave Flash 11.3 r31
[18:57] <ozette> pth, Version: 11.3.31.232,  Shockwave Flash 11.3 r31
[18:58] <david__> hello all. If I install a program that uses a tarball extension, how can I uninstall it ?
[18:58] <pth> ozette: Same here. Strange.
[18:58] <ozette> pth, I guess it's the latest
[18:58] <funkyb> looking for help with a casper question.  Should I just throw it in the channel?
[18:58] <ozette> pth, Hmm ok, I was wondering if I was the only one experiencing this
[18:58] <greenit> hi, i want to report a bug with the touchpad, but i don't know which package-name i shall provide when i type "ubuntu-bug"
[18:59] <bekks> david__: a tarball is just an archive. You extract it, do something, and your program is installed. It depends on that "do something" what you have to do to uninstall it.
[18:59] <ikonia> david__: it really depends what is contained within the tarball
[18:59] <pth> ozette: Maybe an idea would be to remove the plugin and let chrome install it again next time a flash is hit on a page.
[19:00] <ozette> pth, good idea i'll try that
[19:01] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, hmm
[19:01] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, ok, encryptionless connections seem to work
[19:01] <Foxhoundz> so  I guess it's an error on my part on how I configured etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.confg
[19:01] <Foxhoundz> conf*
[19:02] <pth> david__: As far as I know you only can if the makefile has an uninstall target.
[19:02] <Foxhoundz> But there's a more pressing question. Right now I was able to configure my wireless device and connect it to my access point via command line
[19:02] <Foxhoundz> But I want to use the Network connections GUI front end
[19:02] <Foxhoundz> However, it doesn't seem to detect my card or any  access points
[19:03] <greenit> how can i report a touchpad-bug in ubuntu?
[19:03] <IdleOne> greenit: you can report against xserver-xorg-input-multitouch that should get the bug to the right people but if it isn't they will reassign it to the correct package
[19:03] <greenit> IdleOne, thx :)
[19:03] <IdleOne> sure
[19:03] <Bahaman> Is anyone using VirtualBox here? Im trying to transfer an ISO file (I installed the extension pack) but it somehow wont prompt with anything only on the "host"..
[19:04] <Bahaman> Im using ubuntu and running Win7 in the VM
[19:05] <21WAAFEW9> If I kill networkManager, will I loose internet? The little f***er is using 100% of one core doing nothing
[19:05] <dr_willis> Bahaman:  you could treat the 2 os's as 2 real machines. and use ssh/scp/ftp or samba to transfer files
[19:05] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: probably!  Can you pastebin that file?
[19:05] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: there is no need for that language please.
[19:05] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: if you have to star out a word - don't use it
[19:06] <bekks> Bahaman: What do you mean by "try to transfer"? And why do you refer to the extension pack?
[19:06] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: okay, but what is the answer to my question+
[19:06] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: The device does not show up in the gui?  Show me your /etc/network/interfaces file
[19:06] <gordonjcp> ikonia: tbh I'm more offended by it when it's starred out...
[19:06] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: I didn't read your question as I lost interests as soon as I saw your use of language
[19:06] <ikonia> gordonjcp: I can see that point
[19:06] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: ...
[19:06] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: ..... means nothing, it's just dots
[19:06] <21WAAFEW9> Can I kill NetworkManager without loosing network?
[19:07] <IdleOne> 21WAAFEW9: I'm not 100% sure but I think you will lose internet connection if you kill network manager
[19:07] <gordonjcp> ikonia:  I find euphemism peculiarly offensive, I don't know why
[19:07] <gordonjcp> 21WAAFEW9: if you do lose network, just re-run nm-applet
[19:07] <mutio> 21WAAFEW9 // kill it and find out. you can always reboot if you lose all net
[19:07] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: depends, mostly if you kill it and re-spawn it it will be fine
[19:07] <mpma> SUp
[19:07] <ikonia> you don't need to reboot
[19:07] <21WAAFEW9> mutio: I dont want to disconnect from irc
[19:07] <Bahaman> bekks: I have VB running and booted Win7. When I insert my USB stick into my computer it only prompts in Ubuntu and not in the VM (win7).
[19:07] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: are you using dhcp ?
[19:08] <21WAAFEW9> yes
[19:08] <dr_willis> Bahaman:  you need to configure vbox to access the 'real' usb stick
[19:08] <Bahaman> Oh
[19:08] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: you should be able to kill it and respawn it before it re-checks for a lease.
[19:08] <Bahaman> I'll look into that then
[19:08] <bekks> Bahaman: Then you have to pass it through to your guest instead using it on the host - as described in the documentation of virtualbox (pretty good documentation, I have to admit)
[19:09] <Bahaman> bekks: I'll look into it , im fairly new but thanks:)!
[19:09] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, it's just two lines : 1) auto lo 2) iface lo inet loopback
[19:09] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: I managed to start my cpufan, maybe that will cool it down
[19:09] <Foxhoundz> That's all that's written on that file
[19:09] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: cpu temperature doesn't make it use more/less cpu
[19:10] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: really?  sudo service network restart
[19:10] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: if network manager is using %100 cpu, cooling it won't make it use less
[19:10] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: Since when? Every decent intel chip throttles itself if it is too warm
[19:10] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Usually the devices do not show up in the gui because they're defined in /etc/network/interfaces.  What is hooking in your wpa_supplicant.conf ?
[19:10] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: sudo service networking restart **
[19:10] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: limiting it's processor scalability is not % utilization
[19:10] <Foxhoundz> okay one moment
[19:10] <mutio> for some cpu settings, the cpu will try to turn it's speed down the hotter it gets
[19:10] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: cpu MHz         : 800.000
[19:10] <gordonjcp> ikonia: it will if you cool it enough ;-)
[19:11] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: On an 1.8ghz core
[19:11] <gordonjcp> ikonia: let me just get my liquid helium and I'll show you a thing
[19:11] <ikonia> 21WAAFEW9: if it's 1mhz or 1000000mhz, network manager shouldn't be using %100
[19:12] <21WAAFEW9> ikonia: that is true
[19:12] <compdoc> gordonjcp is showing off his liquid helium again
[19:12] <mutio> 21WAAFEW9 // what does "top" show for system load?
[19:14] <maladore> can someone help with an irc server setup?
[19:14] <21WAAFEW9> mutio: 2.89 2.18 3.14
[19:14] <mutio> 21WAAFEW9 // that is very high for any time past boot time
[19:15] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, network: unrecognized service
[19:15] <Foxhoundz> I just rebooted my PC
[19:15] <Foxhoundz> so my wifi was disabled again
[19:15] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: sorry: sudo service networking restart   but I just remembered that they disabled the 'restart' option.  So yeah, you have reboot
[19:16] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: what disabled your wifi?  I don't understand?
[19:16] <mutio> 21WAAFEW9 // it could easily have to do with your cpu turning it's speed down to 800mhz. do you have any settings in your bios for "cool and quiet"?
[19:16] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, it wasn't disabled, but it didn't save the wireless settings
[19:16] <Foxhoundz> I rebooted my PC after downloading some video drivers
[19:17] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: so on reboot the wireless is not working?  Is that what you're saying?
[19:17] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, that's correct
[19:18] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Do you know how to 'reactive' it once you're rebooted?
[19:18] <Foxhoundz> I have to go back to the command line and bring the interface up, and configure the ssid settings iwconfig
[19:18] <Foxhoundz> each time
[19:18] <Foxhoundz> but it now has a network connecTIon
[19:19] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: in your /etc/network/interfaces file add a line for you wlan0 device that is identical to your eth0
[19:19] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: do NOT have a "auto wlan0" line
[19:20] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, ...what eth0? There is no information for eth0 in the interfaces file
[19:20] <Foxhoundz> so what should I be adding on there?
[19:20] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: pastebin your interfaces file please:  paste.ubuntu.com
[19:21] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: I'll make the change and show you the result.  Trying to explain it is too difficult
[19:21] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195274/
[19:21] <Foxhoundz> That's all thats in there
[19:21] <klotzek> Hello.
[19:24] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Make it like this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195280/
[19:24] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: then reboot
[19:24] <andy> Hi guys.
[19:24] <andy> I'm having a bit of an issue.
[19:25] <Meris> Is it possible to logon into 2 X-Window sessions, using 2 users on the same computer. Both sessions having a full desktop experience?
[19:25] <andy> I'm using Pinguy OS 12, and I can't figure out how to change the screen resolution.
[19:25] <yuri_> hi. How do I make a hostAP in ubuntu's NetworkManager? The only option I see currently is AdHoc mode.
[19:25] <Meris> andy, sorry, you'll have to goto to the Pinguy support channel instead.
[19:25] <auronandace> andy: not supported here
[19:25] <andy> k
[19:26] <andy> I understand.  I was in their channel and got no response.
[19:26] <andy> that's why i came here, knowing it's ubuntu based.
[19:26] <dr_willis> Meris:  check out 'multiseat' features of x and lightdm. its possible. theres also some hardware that makes it easier ive read reviews of.
[19:26] <DWSR> Is there a guide or going from Ubuntu desktop to Ubuntu server?
[19:26] <klotzek> I've got ubuntu 12.10 x64 and im wondering what part of the system is compiled on x64 and another one is emulated on libs32. Can someone give me a clue ?
[19:27] <auronandace> andy: still not supported here
[19:27] <dr_willis> DWSR:  just install the services you want...
[19:27] <andy> I understand, I was just explaining my rationale.
[19:27] <DWSR> dr_willis: I want to rip out X.
[19:27] <Meris> dr_willis, I'm planning a "hotseat" config instead
[19:27] <andy> as to why I came here.
[19:27] <DWSR> And the associated packages with ubuntu-desktop, like libreoffice.
[19:27] <dr_willis> DWSR:  fire up package manager and do it then
[19:28] <DWSR> dr_willis: How can I remove everything referenced by ubuntu-desktop and install everything referenced by ubuntu-server?
[19:28] <dr_willis> DWSR:  or just use the text mode to boot to the console
[19:28] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, that took a while to reboot
[19:28] <DWSR> Without horribly horribly breaking things in my existing install?
[19:28] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, now what?
[19:28] <gordonjcp> DWSR: why not just nuke and reinstall?
[19:28] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: The gui should see your wifi card.  Does it?
[19:28] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: Also, remove auto wlan0  (I believe) to make the boot faster
[19:28] <dr_willis> i dont see the point in removeing the stuff really.
[19:29] <DWSR> gordonjcp: Lots of work, mostly. apt doing all the heavy lifting for me means I don't care.
[19:29] <Foxhoundz> deadmund, it did not :(
[19:29] <DWSR> dr_willis: Because it's a very low-power server?
[19:29] <deadmund> Foxhoundz: mmmm, what gui client are you using?
[19:29] <dr_willis> DWSR:  if x is not running.. its not using resources
[19:29] <DWSR> dr_willis: No, but other stuff related to being a desktop is. bluetoothd, etc.
[19:30] <dr_willis> not with text mode i belive..
[19:30] <maladore> any one can help setting up and irc server?
[19:30] <Meris> andy, the different distributions have the most differences in the way their control panels are set up, even Linux Mint, a closer cousin than Pinguy OS has this organised differently. You see why we can't help you with your question? Maybe Freenode has a separate #pinguy support channel?
[19:30] <DWSR> dr_willis: It definitely is.
[19:30] <krababbel> DWSR: just reinstall
[19:30] <DWSR> krababbel: There has to be a guide for this. I'm pretty sure I've actually seen one somewhere on the Ubuntu site.
[19:30] <OerHeks> !ipv6 | deadmund, Foxhoundz i decreased boottime with 9 sec. by disable IPv6
[19:31] <deadmund> OerHeks: great
[19:31] <krababbel> DWSR: there is no easy way, you go through the packages and see what happens if you remove
[19:31] <Meris> Oerheks, that's impressive, but in the end it will be the other way around ;-)
[19:31] <calico> Does anyone one if the broadcom wireless have been solved already in the current Ubuntu version? I tried hard to migrate to Ubuntu some months ago but the wireless problems were a deal breaker
[19:31] <deadmund> calico: I am very good with those cards.  Which do you have?  I can tell you if I can get it working and then show you how.
[19:31] <DWSR> calico: It works fine on my laptop which has a Broadcom chip. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS.
[19:31] <dr_willis> calico:  broadcom makes a lot of different wireless chipsets
[19:31] <bekks> calico: Please beb more specific. I am using Ubuntu with broadcom chipsets for years now.
[19:31] <OerHeks> !bcm
[19:32] <Meris> calico, the Wireless support differs by kernel version, not really across distro's...Check out the linux hardware compat. DB and lookup your model of Wifi chipset
[19:32] <calico> Well I don't really know, I'm just an average user... But my internet connection was REALLY unstable, constantly disconnecting, reconnectin, slow, etc
[19:32] <DWSR> krababbel: Will -desktop conflict with -server if I install both simultaneously?
[19:33] <HardKoreMofo> hmm... how come /list doesn't work?
[19:33] <Meris> !hardware | calico
[19:33] <Cheesewheel> anyone here using quassel
[19:33] <DWSR> Cheesewheel: Yes.
[19:33] <calico> tnx
[19:33] <Jellyg00se> Hi all, more of a grep terminal question, I'm trying to remove all files recursively within directories where they have been created with a (1) in the name i.e. song(1).mp3, I tried ls -R * | grep -r "(1)" * which lists a lot of files but ALL of them, and then I also wish to pipe an rm to it, any help would be appreciated, thankyou :)
[19:33] <Cheesewheel> DWSR can you tell me if there's a way to keep my window layout when I close
[19:33] <DWSR> krababbel: And can I remove everything referenced by ubuntu-desktop that isn't required by anything else?
[19:33] <Cheesewheel> It keeps resetting every time
[19:33] <tking> please i am using ubuntu as my host and i have installed backtrack as guest using virtual box but it doesn't allow me to use USB after install Guest Addition Pack
[19:33] <DWSR> Cheesewheel: Mine seems to do that just fine.
[19:33] <DWSR> Cheesewheel: What version are you using?
[19:33] <d00durk00l> Hey can someone help me please
[19:34] <Cheesewheel> DWSR: 0.98
[19:34] <Cheesewheel> 0.8*
[19:34] <DWSR> I'm on 0.73
[19:34] <DWSR> Seems to work OK.
[19:34] <d00durk00l> how do you get a list of the channels on here?
[19:34] <Meris> Jellyg00se, try the #bash channel and read up on tldp.org
[19:34] <Eagleman> How do i install libvirt on ubuntu 12.04?
[19:34] <Edler> hey guys
[19:34] <d00durk00l> when I use the list command it doesn't work
[19:34] <Edler> i'm on ubuntu server 10.04
[19:34] <Edler> i added a ppa
[19:34] <Eagleman> a decent version of libvirt (0.8.7+) or trunk version.
[19:34] <Edler> but now i want to remove it
[19:34] <Edler> how do i do that ?
[19:35] <DWSR> d00durk00l: /list works fine here. Check your status window.
[19:35] <SamL> Afternoon all
[19:35] <xangua> !ppa-purge | Edler
[19:35] <d00durk00l> I am using smuxi
[19:35] <Jellyg00se> Meris, thank you
[19:35] <Edler> ppa purge isn't available on 10.04
[19:35] <krababbel> DWSR: it will be complicated, but aptitude will try to solve dependencies for you, there are too many packages involved.
[19:35] <d00durk00l> Sorry been a LONG time since I used irc trying to remember all the commands
[19:35] <deadmund> calico: Do you have Ubuntu installed right now?  I can tell you the terminal command to use to determine your wireless card's chipset.  Then we can determine if it is current supported in Ubuntu.
[19:35] <DWSR> d00durk00l: I'm not familiar with your particular client. Read the documentation. The command works properly.
[19:35] <gordonjcp> Eagleman: google, "install libvirt on ubuntu", first hit ;-)
[19:35] <SamL> I'm having some trouble installing 12.0.4 on a macbook and I'm looking for some assistance if anybody has a moment
[19:36] <gordonjcp> !ask | SamL
[19:36] <Meris> Meris, you're welcome, just be sure to research on tldp.org first (Advanced Bash Scripting Guide)
[19:36] <DWSR> krababbel: Should I use aptitude over just apt? I'm assuming aptitude does more advanced dependency resolution?
[19:36] <SamL> lol what?
[19:36] <Meris> Jellyg00se, , you're welcome, just be sure to research on tldp.org first (Advanced Bash Scripting Guide)
[19:36] <xangua> !aptitude | DWSR
[19:36] <krababbel> DWSR: so try to remove the ubuntu desktop metapackage and install the ubuntu-minimal and ubuntu-standard packages, thoese are cli only
[19:36] <DWSR> SamL: Ask your question. Don't ask about getting help.
[19:36] <SamL> I just did
[19:36] <tking> please i am using ubuntu as my host and i have installed backtrack as guest using virtual box but it doesn't allow me to use USB after install Guest Addition Pack
[19:36] <bekks> Jellyg00se: UNTESTED: find . -type f -iname "*(1)*.*" -exec echo "Please delete:" {} \;
[19:37] <Noobuntu> anyone here having trouble with system crashes lately?
[19:37] <krababbel> DWSR: aptitude is more user friendly, has a bug regarding ia32-libs though, if you are on 64bit.
[19:37] <SamL> I've been following https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MactelSupportTeam/AppleIntelInstallation#Other_Partitioning_Options_Multi-booting
[19:37] <gordonjcp> SamL: no, you said you're having some trouble
[19:37] <bekks> Noobuntu: Why?
[19:37] <Noobuntu> nautilus crashed like 3 times yesterday
[19:37] <Meris> tking, try #virtualbox and #backtrack instead.
[19:37] <gordonjcp> SamL: don't expect anyone to sit and tease it out of you line by line
[19:37] <Noobuntu> and today it was some Xorg complaint
[19:37] <bekks> Noobuntu: Thats an application crash, not a system crash :)
[19:37] <DWSR> SamL: No, you didn't. You just said "It don't work". Try asking something like "I'm having problems installing Ubuntu 12.04 on my Macbook. I get error X when I try. Does anyone know how to fix it?"
[19:37] <SamL> ok
[19:38] <d00durk00l> DWSR: There is a resume command for DCC file transfer correct?
[19:38] <Noobuntu> yeah - sorry  - yesterday's was an appicaton crash
[19:38] <Noobuntu> today my system crashed
[19:38] <Noobuntu> :)
[19:38] <DWSR> d00durk00l: Again, no idea. I can tell you that DCC is most likely restricted on Freenode.
[19:38] <SamL> I've installed ubuntu on the macbook, however when I go to boot, it returns operating system not found or the ? File folder
[19:38] <gordonjcp> SamL: "I'm installing Ubuntu on my macbook and I haven't a clue where to start" would be acceptable, too
[19:38] <DWSR> d00durk00l: Also, check your client's documentations.
[19:38] <pizzadude> I like your name Noobuntu
[19:38] <gordonjcp> SamL: aha, you want to look up refit
[19:38] <Noobuntu> just trying to be honest :)
[19:38] <Troy^> DCC file transfer is terrible
[19:38] <karsten> greetings! im usting an hp probook 4535s and the battery performance is bad on ubuntu. 1 hour max. on windows its 6 hours. would it have an effect installing the proper driver?
[19:38] <yellowhat> can someone give me a hint what is the slow part i need to tweak : http://i.imgur.com/e0FmM.png
[19:39] <d00durk00l> what can I use to send a large file to my friend?
[19:39] <d00durk00l> any suggestions
[19:39] <DWSR> karsten: Does your laptop have a switchable graphics card in it?
[19:39] <SamL> alrighty, i was reading a bit about that gordonjcp, I don't have osx cd (at home) or osx installed anymore (yes it was a stupid move)
[19:39] <yellowhat> i have posted a boot chart but i cannot read it
[19:39] <Troy^> d00durk00l: ftp or sftp
[19:39] <gordonjcp> SamL: you can do without it, but to be honest it's easier to install refit, then get that to chainload grub
[19:39] <bekks> d00durk00l: scp, ftp, or some file hoster.
[19:39] <SamL> Also, it seemed like you only needed refit if you are multi-booting
[19:39] <Meris> d00durk00l, how big?
[19:39] <DWSR> d00durk00l: http://mediafire.com, ftp, scp,
[19:39] <pizzadude> d00durk00l how about dropbox
[19:39] <karsten> DWSR, yes, it has
[19:39] <Noobuntu> anyone had any system crashes related to Xorg lately?
[19:39] <gordonjcp> SamL: yeah, it *does* help if you're dual-booting with OSX
[19:39] <ikonia> Noobuntu: what does it matter what others have - ask your problem/question
[19:39] <bekks> Noobuntu: Please investigate the logs to tell us why your X crashed. :)
[19:39] <d00durk00l> drop box bandwidth slow and only allows 2gb on free account
[19:39] <SamL> if that is no longer an opto
[19:39] <DWSR> karsten: That's why. Ubuntu by default uses the discrete GPU and doesn't normally handle switching without some additional installation.
[19:40] <bekks> Noobuntu: You will find them in /var/log/Xorg.*.log
[19:40] <SamL> *option, im not entirely fucked though gordonjcp?
[19:40] <d00durk00l> ftp is a good idea....
[19:40] <ikonia> SamL: dump the language pleas.e
[19:40] <ikonia> please
[19:40] <Noobuntu> thanks - I will check it right away
[19:40] <d00durk00l> Don't know why I didn't think of that
[19:40] <DWSR> karsten: My laptop has about 2h of battery life on Ubuntu, but 7h on Windows because of that reason. The discrete GPU sucks a lot of power.
[19:40] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: ftp is never a good idea
[19:40] <DWSR> ^^
[19:40] <Troy^> lol gordonjcp
[19:40] <karsten> okay.. so installing the amd driver would solve the problem? or disabling it in uefi? DWSR
[19:40] <d00durk00l> kk gordon suggestions?
[19:40] <SamL> thanks gordonjcp, ill take a look into it then
[19:40] <bekks> Troy^: Thats no joke. Thats true.
[19:41] <Troy^> well deep down it is not but really it's fine
[19:41] <DWSR> karsten: Depending on your card, you can try installing fglrx (AMD's proprietary driver) and Catalyst Control Center and that MIGHT work.
[19:41] <Cheesewheel> what's wrong with FTP?
[19:41] <DWSR> karsten: Or you can try vga_switcheroo. Which may also work.
[19:41] <bekks> Cheesewheel: Everything. :) It is insecure.
[19:41] <DWSR> Cheesewheel: Unencrypted.
[19:41] <SamL> scp > ftp ;)
[19:41] <HeadlessZombie> cleartext
[19:41] <gordonjcp> Cheesewheel: lots of stuff
[19:41] <gordonjcp> Cheesewheel: the passwords aren't encrypted
[19:41] <d00durk00l> then setup a ssh tunnel and do a ftp through that
[19:42] <karsten> okay DSWR, thank you a lot. i will try both!
[19:42] <bekks> gordonjcp: Nothing is encrypted.
[19:42] <Troy^> http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie
[19:42] <DWSR> karsten: The "additional drivers" section in Ubuntu's System Settings will allow you to install fglrx
[19:42] <Meris> Cheesewheel, indeed. FTP over WAN belongs right niext to Telnet servers in the museum
[19:42] <gordonjcp> Cheesewheel: it requires both the server *and* the client to allow arbitrary users to write to anywhere in the filesystem
[19:42] <ghost_> Hallo
[19:42] <bekks> !de | ghost_
[19:42] <DWSR> gordonjcp: chroot =\ That's not strictly speaking true.
[19:42] <gordonjcp> DWSR: do you chroot your FTP client?
[19:42] <Noobuntu> no timestamp in the Xorg logs?? :)
[19:42] <DWSR> Yes. You think that my / is 777?
[19:42] <jagginess> gordonboy i remember that name lol
[19:42] <bekks> Noobuntu: But a timestamp of the file :)
[19:42] <ghost_> qualcuno  scrive italiano???
[19:43] <Chris123> exodus Jordan_U / hey guys, Im back and my problem persists
[19:43] <bekks> !it | ghost_
[19:43] <bhast2> ok I can't get my sec montior to work
[19:43] <gordonjcp> Cheesewheel: if I construct a suitably evil ftp *server*, I can use it to gain access to your machine by getting your client to download a file
[19:43] <d00durk00l> Okay so does someone have a solution other than FTP then?
[19:43] <subz3r0> have some trouble with the gnome3 fallback modus... The Icon of Truecrypt should appear in the panel, but I moved it somehow and cant get it back in the panel. Also ALT + Right mouse wont work. I just can move it on the desktop then, but not to the panel. any suggestions?
[19:43] <bhast2> it worked on the live disc but not after I installed
[19:43] <jagginess> bhast2, nvidia?
[19:43] <gordonjcp> jagginess: do not confuse me with gordboy
[19:43] <bekks> d00durk00l: sftp or scp. It was already meantioned.
[19:43] <bhast2> yes
[19:43] <d00durk00l> I will be transfering the file wan side so I would prefer a more secure method with less complications
[19:43] <ghost_> grazie ubottu
[19:43] <jagginess> gordonjcp, oops you're not him hahah
[19:43] <DWSR> d00durk00l: SCP or SFTP.
[19:44] <Didji> Hi.  I'm trying to mount a shared folder inside windows on my Ubuntu machine as a directory.  Unfortunately I can't get write access from Ubuntu.  Any ideas?
[19:44] <jagginess> bhast2, check out the twinview option
[19:44] <d00durk00l> kk thx guys
[19:44] <Troy^> d00durk00l: scp is easy you just need to setup an openssh server
[19:44] <calico> deadmund, no, I am currently running win7 but I'm xubuntu virtualbox. It was the same for me - http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1823812 Do you have any idea if anythings has changed since then
[19:44] <DWSR> Didji: Where are you trying to mount it to?
[19:44] <jagginess> bhast2, you can run nvidia-settings from X and it can also make a sample xorg.conf file for you
[19:44] <Didji> DWSR: /srv/webfolder
[19:44] <DWSR> Didji: You don't have write access there as your user, by default.
[19:44] <jagginess> bhast2, the nvidia-settings gui app can toggle the twinview option for you
[19:44] <DWSR> Didji: Which is why you can't mount it there. Try running the mount command as sudo
[19:44] <exodus> Chris123, run: "sudo update-grub" in a terminal, paste it to http://paste.ubuntu.com/  and pass the link
[19:44] <Didji> DWSR: I'm logged in as an admin.
[19:44] <bhast2> ummm
[19:44] <bhast2> I am new to this
[19:45] <bhast2> what is twinview
[19:45] <Meris> !enter | bhast2
[19:45] <TheJumper> if I switch to a tty above the login field there is the line with the ubuntu release, hostname and tty name. how do I chnage this line?
[19:45] <Didji> DWSR: I am mounting as sudo.  The mounting is working, I have read access, just not write access.
[19:45] <jagginess> bhast2, also, there's a cool app called 'disper' , after you're using twinview, you can use disper to toggle 1 screen or 2 screens to be on
[19:45] <Meris> !nvidia | bhast2
[19:45] <pizzadude> d00durk00l upload the file to bittorrent and have your friend dl it
[19:45] <gordonjcp> TheJumper: change the version of Ubuntu you're running?
[19:45] <d00durk00l> what about ftps?
[19:45] <d00durk00l> that uses ssl correct?
[19:45] <yellowhat> solved my problem with slow bootup by finding this answer:
[19:45] <TheJumper> gordonjcp, i want a custom text ^^
[19:45] <yellowhat> http://superuser.com/questions/286571/ubuntu-slow-startup-time-modprobe
[19:45] <Meris> d00durk00l, true
[19:46] <Noobuntu> so I have got 2 files Xorg.log and Xorg.log.old here
[19:46] <subz3r0> well, you can use SSL with FTP, too!
[19:46] <Chris123> exodus I ran into another problem, I tried installing ndiswrapper in order to use wlan but I cant install it because the Install button is greyed out
[19:46] <Noobuntu> does it create a new log file when Xorg crashes?
[19:46] <yellowhat> apparently i solved it myself 1 year before
[19:46] <subz3r0> install a glftpd and be fine
[19:46] <SamL> gordonjcp, am i able to install refit from ubuntu live boot?
[19:46] <Jordan_U> Chris123: Can you run boot info script and pastebin the RESULTS.txt which it produces?
[19:46] <jagginess> Didji, DWSR, sudo isnt needed if you use a gui app like nautilus or konqueror to do a smb share mount
[19:46] <Jordan_U> !bootinfo | Chris123
[19:47] <Noobuntu> and where would be my best bet of finding the stack trace? the end of the old log file or the begnning of the new log file?
[19:47] <deadmund> calico: Unfortunately the ubuntu forums and ubuntu support in general is filled with the "noise" of thousands of people that have problems and are unable to fix those problems.  Because they are not tech savvy they often cannot fix the problem because they do not understand how to.  Additionally, they are often unable to recognize when the are having the same problem as someone else or not.  Due to this the link you posted likely does not relate to one sp
[19:47] <deadmund> ecific problem.  Additionally, it might be a fixable problem (even at the time those people in the forum had it) and finally.  I'm not 100% convinced you had this 'problem'
[19:47] <Chris123> exodus I googled around a bit and found the solution to run "sudo stop network-manager" and it worked partially, I could install one package but the 2 others are still greyes out
[19:47] <Meris> SamL, yes you can install rEFIt from a LiveCD
[19:47] <SamL> excellent!
[19:47] <gordonjcp> TheJumper: /etc/issue maybe
[19:47] <deadmund> calico: So, no.  I do not know if the 'problem' in that thread is still unsolved.
[19:47] <gordonjcp> SamL: I don't know, possibly
[19:47] <gordonjcp> SamL: I did it from OSX Lion
[19:47] <Jordan_U> Chris123: I will be gone for a few minutes, but I *will* be back (though possibly from my phone where typing will be slow).
[19:47] <Meris> SamL, also consider rEFInd instead
[19:47] <Didji> jagginess, DWSR, the command I'm using is sudo mount -t smbfs -o guest,umask=000 //Host/Share /srv/webfolder
[19:47] <TheJumper> gordonjcp, hmm.. etc issue seems to be just the release of ubuntu.
[19:48] <SamL> any particular reason (out of curiosity)?
[19:48] <subz3r0> have some trouble with the gnome3 fallback modus... The Icon of Truecrypt should appear in the panel, but I moved it somehow and cant get it back in the panel. Also ALT + Right mouse wont work. I just can move it on the desktop then, but not to the panel. any suggestions?
[19:48] <Meris> SamL, more options and can be installed on other OS'es.
[19:48] <SamL> ah very good
[19:48] <jagginess> Didji, i believe it's 'cifs' for -t
[19:48] <DWSR> cifs works.
[19:48] <jagginess> Didji, i also think theres other stuff wrong..
[19:48] <bhast2> jagginess: I got it thanks
[19:48] <Didji> jagginess: like what?
[19:48] <Meris> SamL, afaik rEFIt is MacOSX installable only, that's why I recommend rEFInd.
[19:48] <gordonjcp> TheJumper: read up on how getty works
[19:49] <SamL> So to get this strait, should i partition and install ubuntu prior to instally refind?
[19:49] <gordonjcp> Meris: handy
[19:49] <SamL> indeed
[19:49] <TheJumper> gordonjcp, good idea
[19:49] <Chris123> Jordan_U ubottu I cant download the tool because I cant install ndiswrapper
[19:49]  * jagginess pulling out smb notes
[19:49] <calico> deadmund, k brother, I can't stand this windows crap anymore esp. since I was infected with a keylogger recently, I'm going to install xubuntu again, I hope to see you around again when it comes down to the wireless situation again
[19:49] <Noobuntu> Xorg crashes anyone?
[19:49] <Meris> SamL, no. First install rEFInd, then Ubuntu and any other OS'es ;-)
[19:50] <deadmund> calico: I'll be in this chat for the next several hours probably.  Just PM me to make my client yell :)
[19:50] <dr_willis> ! anyone
[19:50] <calico> k
[19:50] <Meris> SamL, do you use a MacBook and do you want to triple-boot?
[19:50] <Noobuntu> I ve been trying to read the Xorg logs to find the stacktrace...
[19:50] <SamL> i am using a macbook and i jsut want to single boot ubuntu
[19:50] <Noobuntu> I ve got 2 - Xorg.log.old and Xorg.log
[19:51] <jagginess> bhast2, stuff changes over time thats why my head spins.. do modprobe cifs, and modprobe smbfs, tell me which shows up in lsmod<enter>
[19:51] <Noobuntu> where would I find the crash logs? end of .log.old or beginning of .log?
[19:51] <Noobuntu> :-/
[19:51] <sliddjur> How do I set default file permissions (umask?) to rw-rw---- for everything created in /usr/market ?
[19:51] <Meris> SamL, http://lifehacker.com/5531037/how-to-triple+boot-your-mac-with-windows-and-linux-no-boot-camp-required
[19:51] <subz3r0> Noobuntu, check the timestamps!
[19:51] <Noobuntu> ubuntu >> mac .. IMO :D
[19:51] <bhast2> jagginess: have no clue what you mean there
[19:51] <TheJumper> gordonjcp, oh sorry.. /etc/issue is the right file ^^ thank you :)
[19:52] <jagginess> bhast2, modprobe cifs (you may need to run it with sudo)
[19:52] <Jordan_U> Chris123: Can you connect via ethernet, or copy boot info script over via a USB drive?
[19:52] <jagginess> bhast2, otherwise mount -t cifs won't work
[19:52] <SamL> tango
[19:52] <Noobuntu> well , no timestamps inside the logs :(
[19:52] <jagginess> bhast2, note if you reboot you dont ever have to type modpobe cifs again
[19:52] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: how big is this file, anyway?
[19:52] <subz3r0> "Noobuntu> ubuntu >> mac"??? Ubuntu =sofware, mac = hardware...
[19:52] <Noobuntu> or am I not reading it right?
[19:53] <jagginess> bhast2, apt-get install cifs-utils
[19:53] <jagginess> bhast2, apt-get install cifs-utils
[19:53] <Noobuntu> subz3ro: hmm.....
[19:53] <krababbel> Noobuntu: you could delete the log and restart syslogd I believe to have an empty log to start with
[19:53] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: Its about 3.2gb
[19:53] <Meris> SamL, just substitute rEFInd with rEFIt and get installing. One issue about rEFInd, you'll need to enable BIOS-booting in the config file of rEFInd before it can detect any "BIOS"-based bootloaders.
[19:53] <d00durk00l> sorry was just researching the scp protocol
[19:53] <Noobuntu> okay krababbel..
[19:53] <Noobuntu> will do
[19:53] <klj613> hello. with the `fine . -iname '*' -exec ....` does it have a iterator value? 1, 2, 3 etc
[19:53] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: how fast is your internet connecton's upstream?
[19:53] <klj613> find*
[19:53] <d00durk00l> fast enough ;)
[19:53] <d00durk00l> not quite sure sec..
[19:53] <d00durk00l> I know it is quite fast though
[19:54] <jagginess> bhast2, then try the mount -t cifs command
[19:54] <Chris123> Jordan_U I appreciate your help with my boot problem but I would rather try to figure out why I cant install the ndiswrapper packages first
[19:54] <krababbel> Noobuntu: service rsyslog restart
[19:54] <jrib> klj613: why do you ask?
[19:54] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: consider writing it to an SD card and sticking it in the post...
[19:55] <Didji> How do you unmount a mounted samba share without restarting?
[19:55] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: That isn't a option
[19:55] <Noobuntu> krababbel: thank you  :)
[19:55] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: as they used to say, never underestimate the bandwidth of a Transit van full of magtape
[19:55] <Chris123> Jordan_U Ill post RESULTS.txt as soon as I got my internet to work
[19:55] <sliddjur> How do I set default file permissions (umask?) to rw-rw---- for everything created in /usr/market ?
[19:55] <jagginess> d00durk00l, scp is quite obsolete, sftp is the standard under ssh (sftp comes bundled with the ssh server, so just use any ssh/sftp client like filezilla/konqueror/ i think nautilus too can do sftp)
[19:56] <klj613> jrib, i want to rename files to 1, 2, 3 etc
[19:56] <jrib> sliddjur: you would have to use ACLs
[19:56] <d00durk00l> jagginess: he would be using win7
[19:56] <prashant_123456> on my fstab file UUID=108A-FAFC /media/sda6 vfat rw,suid,dev,exec,auto,nouser,async 0 0              so only root user can create files on sda6
[19:56] <jrib> klj613: I don't think so.  You'd have to do some basic bash scripting as far as I know
[19:56] <d00durk00l> I can deal with my end just want something that can be deployed easy on his
[19:56] <jagginess> Didji, depends which smb client you're using. You don't always have to use the cli
[19:57] <Meris> d00durk00l, if the file is sensitive, you can just encrypt it before sending it on a SD-card. Just use a TrueCrypt volume and you're set.
[19:57] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: in the early 2000s I was routinely transferring 250GB of data a couple of times a week between a site in England and my local office
[19:57] <Didji> jagginess: I am using the cli, and I'm not aware of any non-cli alternative.
[19:57] <jagginess> d00durk00l, filezilla is also on winbloze/mac (linux of course has it)
[19:57] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: we had a 2Mbps symmetric line
[19:57] <d00durk00l> Meris: No there is no addy to send it too ;)
[19:57] <jagginess> Didji, i already mentioned a couple.
[19:57] <jrib> sliddjur: documentation for ACLs can be found in the man pages for "setfacl", "getfacl", and "mount" (you need to add the "acl" option for the partition in question)
[19:57] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: it would take over two weeks to transfer the data over the 2M E1 line
[19:57] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  i think some of those options make no sence when used with a  vfat partition
[19:57] <Noobuntu> krababbel: I was actually using Wubi before - till I tried to update to Precise back in May
[19:57] <Noobuntu> upgrade broke my system :(
[19:57] <Didji> jagginess: right, it's just that I've got this installed now.  I mean obviously there's a way it works.
[19:58] <jagginess> Didji, nautilus (gnome's default file browser), konqueror (kde's or i think it's other alternative standard), and there's filezilla
[19:58] <d00durk00l> jagginess: and filezilla is sftp?
[19:58] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: so what we had was, we had a pair of RAID arrays in a 10U rack case
[19:58] <jagginess> d00durk00l, ya it does sftp and other type of ftp
[19:58] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: Using what?
[19:58] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, so what to do with that any solutions
[19:58] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: masses of SCSI disks, very expensive
[19:58] <Noobuntu> tried to fix it for 3 months - just couldn't get my Wlan working :(
[19:58] <Meris> d00durk00l, I see, well, in that case, go with sftp/ scp
[19:58] <klj613> jrib, instead. is it a way for `-exec` in `find` to run two commands? mv then something else etc
[19:58] <jagginess> d00durk00l, when i say sftp, i mean "sftp/ssh"
[19:58] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, ntfs is ok but the problem is with vfat
[19:58] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  i dont know your original problem.. but that fstab entry is 25% garbage.
[19:58] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: I had a Citroën XM, a fairly fast car with a huge boot and very soft hydraulic suspension so the disks didn't get rattled
[19:58] <krababbel> Noobuntu: well good luck, I got weird behaviour too once, reinstalled a package I never touched, and now it works again :)
[19:58] <jagginess> d00durk00l, you just need to install the openssh server on linux, and sftp is available
[19:59] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: and I had a diesel card paid for by the office down south
[19:59] <jrib> krababbel: you could probably put them in bash -c.  #bash might have a better way for you
[19:59] <DWSR> Is there a ubuntu-server metapackage?
[19:59] <DWSR> Or, does ubuntu-server use a different kernel?
[19:59] <krababbel> Noobuntu: but wlan I never had to use (luckily)
[19:59] <d00durk00l> jagginess: Damnit I just realized something I have my linux box behind a second router... damnit... all this to help a guy out
[19:59] <dr_willis> !info ubuntu-server
[19:59] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: 200 miles between offices, 250GB of data transferred in four hours - hard to beat that even today
[19:59] <prashant_123456> dr_willis, i cannot have write permissions to my vfat only root user can write on it but the thing in ntfs is different any user can write to it
[19:59] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: BRAVO!!!
[20:00] <Noobuntu> krababbel: I couldn't even install anything - it broke all my networking entirely tools
[20:00] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: all that doesn't help me tho :P
[20:00] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: stick an SD card in the post ;-)
[20:00] <jean-michel> hello
[20:00] <Noobuntu> had to wipe everything clean and installed it - this time on a fresh partition
[20:00] <Noobuntu> no wubi :)
[20:00] <d00durk00l> So my ul bandwidth is 1.56mbps
[20:00] <jean-michel> how are you ?
[20:00] <dr_willis> prashant_123456:  you need to use the proper dmask and fmask options, or set the uid/gid options of you want a single user to have full access.. or try the ntfs-config tool..
[20:01] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: so five hours to transfer, give or take
[20:01] <dr_willis> !vfat | prashant_123456
[20:01] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: I cannot as there is no address to send it too
[20:01] <jagginess> Noobuntu, you doing a dualboot there?
[20:01] <Noobuntu> interestingly though - an article I read some months back put Wubi ahead of a dedicated Ubuntu install on some benchmarks :)
[20:01] <Meris> !ask | jean-michel
[20:01] <jagginess> Noobuntu, you wish..
[20:01] <Noobuntu> yep - Windows and Ubuntu
[20:01] <calico> Should I install Ubuntu with ubuntu.com/download/desktop/windows-installer  or  with unetbootin, what's better?
[20:01] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: I don't like the idea of having a open server for over 5 hours
[20:01] <Noobuntu> jaggginess: Not my opinion - just an article I read
[20:01] <jagginess> Noobuntu, wubi means a loopback file on ntfs. There's no article in the world saying that unless it's a noob :)
[20:02] <dr_willis> calico:  one is a wubi install.. is that what you want?
[20:02] <d00durk00l> How do torrents work ?  Do I have to host the file or is uploaded ?
[20:02] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: is at least one of the machines running Linux?
[20:02] <DWSR> Does ubuntu-server use a different kernel?
[20:02] <d00durk00l> I am
[20:02] <Noobuntu> jagginess: that makes sense - and I thought so too - but let me see If i can find that article
[20:02] <d00durk00l> he is not
[20:02] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, where is the problem at all? Just install the openssh-server (sudo apt-get install openssh-server) then configure it for using pubkeys.... then open nautilus from the other side ssh://name@ip:port/ and done.
[20:02] <calico> dr_willis, I'm not sure about the difference in the end results that's why I asked
[20:02] <dr_willis> calico:  if you want a full normal install use the unetbootin, or other tools to make a bootable flash to install form
[20:03] <calico> dr_willis, understood
[20:03] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: what's the guy at the other end got?
[20:03] <Meris> d00durk00l, how much downstream bandwidth do you have?
[20:03] <Didji> jagginess: well, I tried nautilus, and it fails to completely there.
[20:03] <dr_willis> calico:  and run away from wubi.. ;)
[20:03] <d00durk00l> Meris: 2.73
[20:03] <Veryhappy> Hi guys many programs in my Ubuntu crash very often.did I mess up my system already?
[20:03] <d00durk00l> gordonjcp: He is using win7
[20:04] <d00durk00l> subz3r0: The guy I am sending to is using win7
[20:04] <Meris> d00durk00l, in MBit/s, or Mbyte/s?
[20:04] <d00durk00l> MBit/s
[20:04] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: so he could probably run pscp and just copy it across from your machine, if you gave him an account
[20:04] <Meris> d00durk00l, so how big is this file anyway?
[20:04] <d00durk00l> 3.2gb
[20:05] <d00durk00l> yeah I'm not giving him a account lol
[20:05] <silverarrow> does anyone know how x11 and xorg work?
[20:05] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, so? just tell him to use "WINSCP"
[20:05] <noah_> Question about setting up drives:  Running 12.04LTS.  I have two drives.  An SSD that holds the OS for booting, and a second drive "data" for all the data, home directories, etc. The data drive is encrypted with LUKS.  With my current setup, whenever I reboot, I get a password entry screen to decrypt the data drive, where my home directory is.  This works fine.  The problem is that if I reboot remotely, I'm stuck as I can't enter 
[20:05] <noah_> password.  If I keep my home directory on the SSD, there won't be enough room.  If I use a symbolic link, and the encrypted drive isn't mounted, that creates errors and issues.  Suggestions??
[20:05] <dr_willis> silverarrow:  yes....... ;)
[20:05] <dr_willis> !anyone
[20:06] <silverarrow> dr_willis, you are way strict on that one
[20:06] <Meris> noah_, yes, you can redirect the
[20:06] <jarred> Ubuntu Server vs Arch Linux, go
[20:07] <ikonia> no
[20:07] <d00durk00l> subz3r0: well I am behind multiple routers... so I have to go and setup port forwarding .. pain in the ass
[20:07] <HeadlessZombie> lol
[20:07] <dr_willis> jarred:  see ot channel
[20:07] <noah_> Meris:  Message was cut off...
[20:07] <d00durk00l> I was hoping for something easyier
[20:07] <Noobuntu> jagginess: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=ubuntu_wubi_1010&num=2
[20:07] <silverarrow> dr_willis, is there a possibility x11 and open gl could be running without hardware acceleration, like the radeon graphics did not kick in?
[20:08] <dr_willis> silverarrow:  opengl has a software mode.. so yes. its posible
[20:08] <d00durk00l> is the / on ubuntu set as 777 by default?
[20:08] <ikonia> no
[20:09] <dr_willis> d00durk00l:  id say no
[20:09] <Meris> noah_, so I've noticed... You don't *have* to use the homedir for all users on just one drive. You can make a user account, just for logging into your machine, with a tiny homedir on your SSD, after having logged in, you can open up another session from within that terminal, using your main user credentials.
[20:10] <silverarrow> dr_willis, if I suspect the radeon drivers are bypassed is there a way to make them take ?
[20:10] <WeThePeople> how would i find out if my computer has been hacked?
[20:10] <dr_willis> Meris:  you could have home dirs on network nfs shares also. ;)
[20:10] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, something easier? burn it to a dvd and send it to him via IPS
[20:10] <Noobuntu> check your open ports
[20:10] <Meris> dr_willis, true, but I just give a local option first. NFS can be fiddly.
[20:10] <silverarrow> dr_willis, or rather, could I remove opendl packages or are they needed+
[20:10] <Noobuntu> WethePeople: monitor the data leaving your system
[20:11] <dr_willis> silverarrow:  i dont mess with ati. i theres dozens of guides out there about specific ati chipsets and work arounds/problems with them
[20:11] <d00durk00l> subz3r0: He doesn't want to say his address over the phone
[20:11] <WeThePeople> noobuntu, i have a firewall running and sometimes i get random hits
[20:11] <d00durk00l> random hits?  Wow
[20:11] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, LOL
[20:11] <Noobuntu> WeThePeople: I don't understand random hits
[20:12] <Jordan_U> Chris123: OK. I will be in and out for the next few hours.
[20:12] <jagginess> Noobuntu, i do suppose it's doing the actual writing much later, a-sync.. The other performance, the first one shows wubi is slower..
[20:12] <Didji> does anyone know how to mount a windows share in a Ubuntu, and ensure that I have write access?
[20:12] <WeThePeople> noobuntu, from ip addresses
[20:12] <calico> How do I make sure I will not screw up my windows installation while installing ubuntu from flash drive, are there any specifics
[20:12] <Noobuntu> jagginess: Agredd most of the benchmarks make sense
[20:12] <subz3r0> !mount | Didji
[20:12] <WeThePeople> pings
[20:12] <Meris> d00durk00l, nice, (heh, you did *encrypt* the line first, didn't you ? <= just kidding ;-) )
[20:12] <jagginess> Didji, write-access is controlled from the server
[20:12] <WeThePeople> or something
[20:12] <Didji> jagginess: the server is giving write access.
[20:12] <Noobuntu> jagginess: With SQLite, PostgreSQL, and FS-Mark the Wubi setup was dramatically faster, which does raise concerns over data integrity with some operations likely being carried out a-synchronously or batched.
[20:13] <jagginess> Didji, you need to enable "write" permission on the share(from windows), and "write" permission on the ntfs filesystem (again you set this up on windows too)
[20:13] <Didji> subz3r0: yes, I've been using that document for a couple days now.
[20:13] <d00durk00l> Meris: ?
[20:13] <d00durk00l> the first line?
[20:13] <Meris> d00durk00l, I mean the phone line of course ;-) nvm
[20:13] <Noobuntu> WeThePeople: reverse look up the ip next time
[20:13] <d00durk00l> Sorry long day ... dumb it down
[20:13] <Didji> jagginess: yes.  Every other (non-Ubuntu) machine on the network have no problem writting to the share.
[20:13] <jagginess> Noobuntu, that article is two years old.. i can't dispute it because there must be other surveys that counter those findings..
[20:13] <bekks> Noobuntu: That happens because of the async IO in windows. Benchmarking IO times of wubi INSIDE the ubuntu install is a fail by design.
[20:13] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, so you want the super duper easy way.... install ubuntu-one, pack the file with 7zip and a passwort, upload it to ubuntu-one and share the link with him
[20:14] <hjubal> hi, is it possible to mount a Nexus phone in Ubuntu 12.04 using MTP?
[20:14] <d00durk00l> Meris: Oh I could give a crap the stuff I am sending isn't senstive .. He just doesn't want to anounce his addy on his phone
[20:14] <subz3r0> *password
[20:14] <jagginess> bekks, wubi doesn't run in windows, but runs off a loopbackfile on ntfs
[20:14] <jagginess> tsk.
[20:14] <bekks> jagginess: which is merely the same from the point of async IO.
[20:14] <d00durk00l> subz3r0: passwort a file encryption program?
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> hjubal, I use gMTP for my nexus 7
[20:15] <jagginess> bekks, um.. no..
[20:15] <d00durk00l> subz3r0: How much space does ubuntu-one allow for free account?
[20:15] <Meris> d00durk00l, you  could use VoIP over an encrypted channel if "your contact" ;-) is that paranoid.
[20:15] <subz3r0> d00durk00l, trolling around? PACK THE DAMN FILE WITH THE SOFTWARE YOU LIKE
[20:15] <subz3r0> and hand it over to him trought ubuntu-one
[20:15] <hjubal> wilee-nilee, gMTP fails and so mtp-detect
[20:15] <bekks> jagginess: Then please share with us how to enforce sync I/O on ntfs and why that would be faster than async I/O. :)
[20:15] <OerHeks> d00durk00l, how much space do you need?
[20:15] <d00durk00l> 3.2gb
[20:16] <Noobuntu> bekks: Am i missing something here? Sync I/O faster than Async I/o?? :-/
[20:16] <Meris> subz3r0, won't work, unless d00durk00l has a paid account. One has an initial capacity of 2GB.
[20:16] <wilee-nilee> hjubal, I don't mount it per say other then it is reading the unit and I can load stuff to it, I have not looked for a click on mount.
[20:16] <OerHeks> Meris 5gb*
[20:16] <d00durk00l> Meris: THank you sir
[20:16] <d00durk00l> OerHeks: they changed it recently?
[20:17] <OerHeks> for ubuntu-one that is
[20:17] <Meris> Oerheks, ah, so they increased it? Sweeet.
[20:17] <subz3r0> Meris, split the files... and its 5 gigs for free
[20:17] <bekks> Noobuntu: No, it isnt. async io is faster in almost all use cases.
[20:17] <Noobuntu> bekks: Thats what I thought too :)
[20:17] <subz3r0> and stuff like "he doesnt want to give me his adress on the phone" sounds REALLY ODD, doesnt it?
[20:17] <hjubal> wilee-nilee, gMTP complains "LIBMTP PANIC: failed to open session on second attempt" and hangs
[20:18] <d00durk00l> is there a simple program that can encrypt files via the terminal?
[20:18] <Veryhappy> My KDE is very buggy since I installed ubuntu. Did I break my system and if i did can i repair it and how?
[20:18] <Meris> subz3r0, yes, sounds like a paranoid contact.
[20:18] <jrib> d00durk00l: sure, gpg
[20:18] <Noobuntu> but I didn't understand jagginess
[20:18] <Noobuntu> when he said the test i flawed by design?
[20:18] <Noobuntu> is*
[20:18] <d00durk00l> jrib: Thanks forgot about that
[20:18] <subz3r0> jrib,  and you tell him how gpg works :D
[20:19] <subz3r0> he wants a easy way to handle that thing ;)
[20:19] <subz3r0> an
[20:19] <wilee-nilee> hjubal, that is about the gist of what I know here, I have a W7 install for using word only, but now has a use for messing with the nexus 7 easily.
[20:19] <Meris> Veryhappy, "break" your system? that is kinda hard when only your desktop environment is malfunctioning. Why don't you just make a backup of your personal settings, purge the DE and reinstall it?
[20:19] <subz3r0> just pack the file with 7zip+password and upload it to ubuntu one or any other file hoster for free
[20:19] <jagginess> d00durk00l, nothing is simple in the terminal, you just have to learn how to use it :/
[20:19] <WeThePeople> d00durkool, cfs
[20:20] <hwkiller-netbook> well, it is "simple"
[20:20] <hwkiller-netbook> as in engineering
[20:20] <WeThePeople> its in the soft center
[20:20] <jagginess> hwkiller-netbook, obviously you don't know engineering but use the word.. funny guy
[20:21] <hwkiller-netbook> ?
[20:21] <d00durk00l> Well thnaks for all the help guys :)
[20:21] <hwkiller-netbook> simple as in engineering, not as in ease of use is a common phrase
[20:21] <Meris> d00durk00l, np
[20:21] <jagginess> hwkiller-netbook, you talk like you know how to analyze atoms but see life from a clerical point of view.. you made no sense on that last one
[20:22] <hjubal> wilee-nilee, don't know what gist is
[20:22] <subz3r0> !ot
[20:22] <SamL> meris, do i need to setup a special partition for refind?
[20:22] <wilee-nilee> hjubal, a totality
[20:22] <hwkiller-netbook> jagginess, honestly, I don't have time for pedantic nonsense today.
[20:22] <Veryhappy> Meris how can i remove all personal settings that did break my system and is there anything that i have to delete to get it back to standard ?
[20:22] <Veryhappy> Lol i meant my KDE not system sorry
[20:23] <jagginess> hwkiller-netbook, you're a user, not an engineer. Engineering isn't simple.
[20:23]  * jagginess thinks whoever says engineering is simple is nonsense
[20:23] <subz3r0> jagginess, please back to topic. thx
[20:23] <jrib> hwkiller-netbook, jagginess: let's move back to support please
[20:23] <toobluesc> do it for the lulz
[20:23] <Meris> SamL, just follow the instructions I have pointed out and you'll be fine. It's all there...: http://lifehacker.com/5531037/how-to-triple+boot-your-mac-with-windows-and-linux-no-boot-camp-required
[20:23] <d00durk00l> when I try to use /server command it gives me no protocol manager error is there other param's I am missing? I don't remember having to use anything else
[20:23] <SamL> yah im going through it
[20:23] <hwkiller-netbook> jagginess, "simple as in engineering" does not mean engineering is simple, it means "simple" as in the engineering use
[20:23] <boboy77b> http://bitchinbeach.com/Forum/index.php?tid=30&title=The_Best_TEEN_Porn_Movie_Collection
[20:24] <Meris> SamL, here's a link to rEFInd: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[20:24] <SamL> im looking at these pictures and im seeing what lokos l
[20:24] <SamL> looks like an MBR partition that's fat
[20:25] <jagginess> fat32 likely
[20:25] <Meris> SamL, did you install Bootcamp or did you not?
[20:25]  * jagginess remembers fat16 which/may be used on some small sd cards
[20:25] <SamL> I do not have OSX installed and I have no OSX CD availble
[20:25]  * ikonia would like jagginess to stop with random /me commands.
[20:26] <WeThePeople> hi
[20:26] <Meris> SamL, MBR has nothing to do with (V)FAT per se. It just is is the Master Boot Record, not the File Allocation Table(FAT)
[20:27] <SamL> ok
[20:27] <SamL> the install for refind looks like the system is already installed
[20:27] <SamL> (manual install)
[20:27] <protestContest> does anyone know of any windows mbr utilities that I can run from Ubuntu?
[20:28] <protestContest> like bootrec
[20:28] <Meris> SamL, in that case it's even easier and you *will* need rEFInd instead of rEFIt. That's exactly why I pointed you to rEFInd.
[20:28] <PoundXI> PoundXI/c all
[20:28] <Meris> protestContest, what are you trying to accomplish?
[20:28] <SamL> right, ok
[20:29] <SamL> because the triple-boot is using refit lol
[20:29] <protestContest> Meris: have a friend's windows laptop that needs the mbr fixed, and it won't boot into anything but my ubuntu flash drive
[20:29] <calico> I just installed xubuntu off a usb drive but it booted straight to windows without asking anything?! Anothr WEIRD thing - my time is messed up it used to 11pm now is 2am :O
[20:29] <jagginess> Meris, what's refind? (that a newer fork of refit?)
[20:29] <Meris> jagginess, it is :-)
[20:30] <jagginess> thanks didn't know that :)
[20:30]  * jagginess has a macbook couple years back on refit, refit is dry since 2010
[20:30] <Meris> jagginess, just follow the link: http://www.rodsbooks.com/refind/
[20:30] <Meris> jaggo
[20:30] <ghost_> italiano
[20:30] <ghost_> !list italiano
[20:30] <bekks> !it | ghost_
[20:30] <subz3r0> !it ghost_
[20:30] <subz3r0> args :>
[20:31] <jagginess> Meris, would you happen to know how much it would be a pita if one uses grub-efi over grub-pc to have working with refit?
[20:31] <klotzek> Can i install ubuntu on Amiga PPC?
[20:31] <jagginess> Meris, ,/refind// sorry :/
[20:32] <jagginess> klotzek, dont think so, but probably with debian you can
[20:32] <OerHeks> !ppc
[20:32] <klotzek> Thx.
[20:33] <Meris> jagginess, not sure, but the last time I checked grub-efi had some serious issues.
[20:33] <bekks> klotzek: 12.10 has ppc images again.
[20:33] <calico> I just installed xubuntu off a usb drive but it booted straight to windows without asking anything?! Anothr WEIRD thing - my time is messed up it used to 11pm now is 2am :O
[20:33] <OerHeks> good newss bekks all i find is 10.10
[20:34] <jagginess> !xubuntu
[20:34] <bekks> OerHeks: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/daily-live/current/
[20:34] <bekks> OerHeks: I got that from google, seconds ago.
[20:35] <Veryhappy> What do i have to remove to get my KDE in standard state user settings and other files and how do i do that?
[20:35] <OerHeks> !cookie | bekks
[20:35] <jagginess> Meris, well the tradeoff i've read has something to do with the gfx, eg, using the grub-pc uses the mac in bios-emulation mode and I read the gfx isn't as ideal if straight efi was being used, that's why i'm interested in using grub-efi
[20:35] <bekks> OerHeks: \o\\o//o/ ;)
[20:35] <OerHeks> !purekde
[20:35] <Meris> jagginess, you can always test of course, but I wouldn't use it for a "production" machine.
[20:36] <OerHeks> Veryhappy, if you messed up an account, create a fresh one :-)
[20:37] <Meris> Veryhappy, now *that* is a good advice of Oerheks ^You can copy any settings you *want* at your leisure when logged into the new account.
[20:38] <xj98jeep> I have Ubuntu 12.04 installed on a boot HDD, with two more HDDs in a hardware RAID 0 array that were configured in a previous windows 7 install. They show up in the BIOS, but not in Ubuntu. do I need to redo the RAID array so that Ubuntu can see it? or is there a package I'm missing or something
[20:38] <Meris> Veryhappy, if ou have screwed things up on a system-wide level, my more complex purge => reinstall will come in handy.
[20:39] <bekks> xj98jeep: Which hardware raid controller do you have?
[20:39] <Veryhappy> Ok thanks
[20:39] <xj98jeep> not sure, whatever came with the motherboard. It's a gigabyte 990fx board, i'll see what chipset it has
[20:39] <Veryhappy> See you
[20:39] <bekks> xj98jeep: Since you can see both disks in Ubuntu, you do not have a hardware raid controller, but just a fakeraid controller.
[20:39] <n1ckn4me09876543> Jordan_U:  auronandace:  are you guys still here?  I found the problem now, os-prober and update-grub wont detect win7 because the option for win8 in grub boot loader is actually another boot loader for Windows Boot Manager, that's whta shows up when i select win8 in grub boot, it shows BLACK SCREEN with options for Win7 and Win8. I can log in on either so everything is fine now.
[20:40] <xj98jeep> I actually *can't* see them in ubuntu, only in the BIOS
[20:40] <jagginess> n1ckn4me09876543, comeon man, windows 8 is not even out until late october, stop complaning about your illegal warez not working
[20:40] <jkbbwr> anyone know how to monitor mv with pv?
[20:41] <jkbbwr> jagginess: who said anything about illegal, I have a legal win8 copy
[20:41] <protestContest> jagginess: msdnaa ftw
[20:41] <bekks> xj98jeep: Still, that controller on the 990FX is a fakeraid controller.
[20:42] <i7c> protestContest: :)
[20:42] <jkbbwr> serisouly anyone
[20:42] <jkbbwr> monitor mv using pv
[20:42] <jkbbwr> cant find it anywhere
[20:42] <calico> So how I go about booting linux if after installation it straight booted to windows without prompting anything
[20:42] <guntbert> !enter | jkbbwr
[20:42] <xj98jeep> Cool, I'm not very familiar fakeraid. I understand what it is but I'm not sure how to proceed with troubleshooting.
[20:42] <WeThePeople> is ubuntu the heavy weight  of the distros?
[20:42] <jagginess> calico, usually it's the other way around, so no worry ;)
[20:42] <subz3r0> calico, this is not ubuntu specific. its up to you to find out how you can enter the BOOT-MENUE
[20:43] <Meris> xj98jeep, protestContest, jkbbwr, Well, I won't support any Windows Version that wants to restrict bootloader installation on a hardware level. I boycott it instead.
[20:43] <billc> calico: i have 8 seconds to choose linux
[20:44] <xj98jeep> Should I just dismantle the fakeraid array and do a software raid within Ubuntu? I was trying to not use software RAID because I thought I was using a hardware RAID but now that I know that isn't the case are there any advantages to staying with the fakeraid?
[20:45] <bekks> xj98jeep: Yes.
[20:45]  * jagginess is reading http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE1NzE
[20:45] <calico> ...also why would my windows system clock be messed after installing linux
[20:45] <Meris> xj98jeep, FakeRAID is not portable across different chipsets, so it's pretty much vendor lock-in.
[20:45] <bekks> xj98jeep: Actually, until you know why you need a software raid (know it, dont think you do) you dont need raid at all.
[20:46] <subz3r0> calico, this is well known. search for something like "dual boot ubuntu win7 wrong time" bla...
[20:47] <xj98jeep> it appears I've got some thinking to do. Thanks for the info folks!
[20:49] <evgen123> Hi! Can I install v3.5.3-quantal kernel to Ubuntu 12.04 from http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ ?
[20:49] <internetN00b> what app can I use to manage my passwords?
[20:50] <bekks> internetN00b: keypassx
[20:50] <internetN00b> I have over 20 passwords I need to remember :(
[20:50] <ikonia> evgen123: something I'd advise you not to try
[20:50] <bekks> evgen123: Thats not a quantal kernel, bit a mainline kernel. Vanilla from kernel.org, no quantal patches included.
[20:50] <subz3r0> "keepassx"
[20:50] <jagginess> internetN00b, i use a bprocessor storage account for my passwords
[20:50] <izepax> internetN00b: if it's password on internet i receomend LastPass
[20:51] <internetN00b> izepax, isn't lastpass a service?
[20:51] <jagginess> subz3r0, i see two words in that
[20:51] <internetN00b> I don't want to do that, these are passwords for my bank accounts
[20:51] <protestContest> internetN00b: +1 lastpass
[20:51] <bekks> internetN00b: keypassx
[20:51] <evgen123> bekks> And?
[20:51]  * jagginess believes a bprocessor storage acccount exists in his biological brain
[20:51] <internetN00b> keypassx is a kde/qt app. I prefer gtk app
[20:51] <subz3r0> bekks its called "keepassx" not "keypassx"
[20:51] <izepax> I trust lastpass for all my accounts
[20:51] <evgen123> bekks> it is good or bad idea?
[20:51]  * ikonia again asks jagginess to stop with the random /me commands
[20:51] <bekks> evgen123: Thats not the kernel that will be included on quantal.
[20:52] <jagginess> ikonia, i have no idea what keepassx is, or if it was even a real program
[20:52] <subz3r0> jagginess, mhh? two words?
[20:52] <jagginess> subz3r0, will check it out
[20:52] <ikonia> jagginess: yes, so please stop with /me phrases.
[20:52] <subz3r0> jagginess, use your favorite search engine and youll know =)
[20:53] <jagginess> ikonia, i only did 3. relax.. barely spare my wild thoughts..
[20:53] <evgen123> bekks> I understand, but it will be work on LTS precise?
[20:55] <bekks> evgen123: There is a mainline kernel deb for 12.04 which has the same kernel version as the deb for quantal.
[20:55] <bekks> evgen123: Why dont you use a mainline kernel for 12.04?
[20:55] <ikonia> evgen123: why do you want to change the kernel ?
[20:55] <ikonia> what do you hope to get from this
[20:55] <bekks> evgen123: Mixing packages for different releases will most likely break your system.
[20:56] <jaxdahl> for core things obviously. i don't think it's that big of an issue for standalone apps
[20:57] <diverdude> did php 5.4 come to ubuntu yet?
[20:58] <ikonia> diverdude: check
[20:58] <lauratika> does anyone knows how to change the MTU in ubuntu for openvpn??
[20:58] <auronandace> !info php
[20:58] <GraemeLion> !info php5
[20:58] <diverdude> ikonia: how can i check it?
[20:58] <bekks> !php5
[20:58] <bekks> !info php5
[20:58] <evgen123> bekks, ikonia> default 3.2.0-30 kernel have many problems with hardware. I need to update.
[20:58] <ikonia> diverdude: look in the package manager
[20:58] <bekks> evgen123: Thats not true. :) Which problems o you talk about?
[20:58] <subz3r0> lauratika, you can change the mtu within the openvpn configs, when i remember right
[20:59] <GraemeLion> Ubutnu + 1 will have php5.
[20:59] <GraemeLion> Er.. 5.4
[20:59] <lauratika> you mean through network-manager??
[21:00] <diverdude> ikonia: arrg apt-cache show says Version: 5.3.3-1ubuntu9 :/
[21:00] <subz3r0> lauratika, network manager? openvpn does not have any GUI tools bundled
[21:00] <subz3r0> lauratika, sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1500
[21:00] <evgen123> bekks> Problem with kernel panic on nForce2 chipset. Problem with interraps in kworker on my noteboook/
[21:01] <subz3r0> or if you want to have it permanent: "sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces" then add "mtu 1234"
[21:01] <bekks> evgen123: Is it a reproducable kernel panic? Or is it just a random event.
[21:01] <evgen123> bekks> first problem resolved in new kernel.
[21:01] <lauratika> subz3r0 nope, you can as a matter of fact thorugh edit connections in network manager, now the question is how do i know what is the best MTU for specific websote?
[21:02] <bekks> evgen123: Do you have link to the kernel bugreport or the kernel git changeset covering that problem?
[21:02] <subz3r0> lauratika, there is no built in tool for the openvpn-server. Only the commercial version has it. anyway... told you what u must change. read above...
[21:03] <subz3r0> lauratika, also in normal circrumstances there is no reason to change the MTU
[21:03] <nothingspecial> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2055582
[21:03] <Gycklarn> What the... I just restarted my Ubuntu server for the first time since boot, and now my sudo privs are gone
[21:03] <evgen123> bekks> Yes, I saw a report on this issue. But the links are not preserved.
[21:03] <subz3r0> lauratika, and a "website" has nothing to do with a vpn solution. that are different things
[21:04] <Gycklarn> for the first time since first boot, that is
[21:04] <jrib> Gycklarn: output of « groups »?
[21:04] <Gycklarn> gycklarn printadmin
[21:04] <bekks> evgen123: Both the bug reports and the changesets are persistent ;)
[21:04] <jrib> Gycklarn: I assume you used usermod at some point?
[21:04] <bhast2> I lost my driver it says that You do not appear to be using the NVIDIA Xdriver
[21:04] <lauratika> subz3r0 ok thanx, i wanted to change MTU because certain websites wont load under openvpn...
[21:04] <Gycklarn> Yup
[21:04] <subz3r0> lauratika, that has nothing to do with the MTU
[21:04] <jrib> Gycklarn: if you don't pass -a to usermod -G, you are removed from all your other groups.  What ubuntu version is this?
[21:04] <evgen123> bekks> current not resolved?
[21:05] <Gycklarn> Haha, awesome. Uh 12.04 I think. Server.
[21:05] <jrib> Gycklarn: you need to add yourself back to the "sudo" group.  Do you have physical access to the server?
[21:05] <Gycklarn> Yes
[21:05] <subz3r0> lauratika, check this: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-change-mtu-maximum-transmission-unit-of-network-interface-in-ubuntu-linux.html
[21:05] <lauratika> in openvpn forum says some times certain websites wont load properly based on the packages beeing bigger at some websites which makes unreachable
[21:05] <bhast2> How do i get my Nvidia x driver back
[21:05] <bekks> evgen123: All bugreports are preserved, as long as it is an official bugreport in the official tracker :)
[21:05] <jrib> Gycklarn: then you can just reboot, select recovery mode, root console, and then issue: adduser YOUR_USERNAME_HERE sudo
[21:06] <Gycklarn> Alright, awesome
[21:06] <Gycklarn> thanks
[21:06] <ghost_> italiano
[21:06] <ghost_> !canali
[21:06] <lauratika> thats why changing MTU sometimes addresses the issue
[21:06] <ghost_> !canali italiano
[21:06] <bekks> !it | ghost_
[21:06] <jrib> Gycklarn: you can use this "adduser" command to add users to groups so you don't have to worry about the quirk with usermod
[21:06] <subz3r0> lauratika, 1492 or 1500 for the MTU, other stuff will result in problems on ethernet
[21:06] <Gycklarn> yeah, I'll keep that in mind
[21:06] <Gycklarn> And I'll ne more careful when following guides
[21:06] <Gycklarn> heh
[21:06] <Gycklarn> be*
[21:07] <evgen123> bekks> but nForce2 work with new kernel very well
[21:08] <ikonia> evgen123: who said it will ?
[21:08] <lauratika> subz3r0 ok, im just trying to fiz an issue based on the info i got... do you know a better solution or where to look at in terms of vpn not allowing browser(s) to load certain websites??
[21:08] <ikonia> evgen123: nforce has worked well for a long time
[21:08] <Gycklarn> Right then, rebooting.
[21:08] <subz3r0> lauratika, try "traceroute www.thewebsiteswhichSnotworkin.com"
[21:08] <bekks> evgen123: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/984387 -- it says "fix released". So no need to use another kernel.
[21:10] <subz3r0> lauratika, it also depends on the server and it configs. Maybe the website is just blocked from that IP, or the website blocks your vpn. check those things with "ping" "traceroute" and maybe wireshark
[21:11] <evgen123> bekks, ikonia> I have problems with my nForce2 on default 3.2.0 kernel
[21:11] <lauratika> if i change via proxy +vpn the site wont load with out vpn site will load.
[21:12] <evgen123> I view what this fixed, next time may be I try this kernel/
[21:12] <maladore> anyone can help with getting a irc server running in ubuntu 11.10?
[21:12] <evgen123> but now I have problem with kworker CPU usage 100%
[21:12] <bhast2> how do I fix my Nvidia x settings
[21:12] <evgen123> i read what it is kernel problem
[21:14] <bhast2> here is what I get http://i.cubeupload.com/Etf6oR.png
[21:15] <ChaoticanarchyX> can anyone help me with making my display stop going into standby after ten minutes? I already tried using the system settings under Brightness and Lock
[21:15] <jrib> ChaoticanarchyX: pastebin « xset q »
[21:16] <bhast2> how do I restart the x-server
[21:17] <ChaoticanarchyX> I forgot how do you use the pastebin. could you refresh me on that jrib?
[21:17] <auronandace> !paste | ChaoticanarchyX
[21:18] <jrib> ChaoticanarchyX: run command, copy output, visit paste.ubuntu.com in a browser, paste output, submit, post resulting url here in irc
[21:18] <calico> What was the name of the software used to switch between to video cards on laptops
[21:18] <char> Hey guise do you like cheese pizza?
[21:18] <jrib> !ot | char
[21:19] <bhast2> http://imagebin.org/227819
[21:19] <subz3r0> lauratika, try this "ping -Mdo -s 1500 8.8.8.8" when u get something like "mp_seq=1 Frag needed and DF set (mtu = 1492)" reduce the mtu until you get the ping correctly
[21:19] <auronandace> calico: bumblebee?
[21:19] <calico> yea yea, thxn
[21:19] <ChaoticanarchyX> ok i have terminal up, whats the command to bring up the info i need for the pastebin
[21:19] <jrib> ChaoticanarchyX: xset q
[21:20] <calico> ChaoticanarchyX, http://pastebin.com/ ?
[21:21] <calico> uh oh
[21:21] <calico> ok
[21:21] <calico> :D
[21:21] <ChaoticanarchyX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195480/
[21:21] <bhast2> well back to windows
[21:21] <jrib> ChaoticanarchyX: see that bottom section there?
[21:21] <evgen123> bekks, ikonia> 3.4 kernel not booting :-)
[21:21] <ChaoticanarchyX> yes
[21:22] <auronandace> bhast2: have fun
[21:22] <bhast2> well nvidia driver messed up
[21:22] <bhast2> and I have tried everything it said
[21:22] <ChaoticanarchyX> jrib yes
[21:22] <evgen123> bekks, ikonia> what problem with CPU load by kworker?
[21:22] <jrib> ChaoticanarchyX: did you find the option in the gui to configure the standby time?
[21:22] <bhast2> and it don't work
[21:23] <ChaoticanarchyX> yes, under brightness and lock, i set it to never but it still keeps going into standby after ten minutes
[21:23] <jrib> ChaoticanarchyX: and if you re-open that dialog, is the setting reset?
[21:23] <evgen123> guys! what problem with CPU load by kworker?
[21:24] <ChaoticanarchyX> no, it stays on the setting i set it to. It's almost like it ignors it
[21:24] <bhast2> Can someone help me get my Nvidia driver working again
[21:24] <OerHeks> evgen123, what is yours?
[21:24] <auronandace> bhast2: how did you install it?
[21:25] <bhast2> thru additional drivers
[21:25] <jrib> ChaoticanarchyX: you can do something like "xset dpms 0 0 0" if you wish (that won't be permanent though)
[21:25] <bhast2> than I enabled the sec monitor
[21:25] <bhast2> and restarted
[21:25] <ChaoticanarchyX> jrib: let me try
[21:25] <bhast2> and now it says I don't have a Nivida driver installed
[21:26] <auronandace> bhast2: pastebin lsmod
[21:26] <hashem> Hey guys. I'm trying to install autojump, but it flat out doesn't work. It installs fine with mac homebrew, so I'm a little frustrated that it's giving me so much trouble in Ubuntu.
[21:27] <ChaoticanarchyX> jrib: i typed it in to terminal and it seemed to accept it. it didn't reject the command
[21:27] <jrib> ChaoticanarchyX: see if xset q agrees
[21:27] <bhast2> auronandace: http://pastebin.com/4bk1r4ft
[21:27] <auronandace> bhast2: the driver is in use
[21:27] <lauratika> subz3r0: i set it down to 900 and still keep getting the same result mp_seq=1 Frag needed and DF set (mtu = 1200)
[21:27] <bhast2> auronandace: http://imagebin.org/227819
[21:28] <mdeboard> Hi everyone, I am getting md5sum mismatch between direct-download desktop 32 and 64 bit ISOs, but torrented ISOs' md5 sums are correct
[21:28] <zykotick9> !info autojump | hashem are you using "sudo apt-get install autojump"?
[21:28] <subz3r0> lauratika, so lower it more
[21:28] <lauratika> try 900 and still
[21:29] <zykotick9> mdeboard: torrents have error correction, regular html downloads don't...
[21:29] <subz3r0> lauratika, best thing would be, you would do that within a terminal on the vpnserver
[21:29] <ChaoticanarchyX> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195494/
[21:29] <auronandace> bhast2: i don't use multiple screens anymore, that never happened to me before
[21:30] <evgen123> OerHers> 100% CPU load by kworker process
[21:30] <linus> @bhast2 do you have /etc/X11/xorg.conf?
[21:30] <lauratika> vpn server?? how is that possible.
[21:30] <mdeboard> zykotick9: I see, what does that mean in layman's terms for the downloads? Are packets being dropped or? I've downloaded 8-10 times today and errors each time.
[21:30] <bhast2> linus: yes
[21:30] <pinpotal> i have 12.04  how can i upgrade to 12.04.1??
[21:30] <linus> can i see that?
[21:30] <zykotick9> mdeboard: use a torrent ;)
[21:30] <auronandace> pinpotal: just stay updated
[21:30] <hashem> @ubottu yes. sudo apt-get install autojump. And then I did man autojump, and added "       .  /usr/share/autojump/autojump.sh" to my .bashrc, and reloaded my terminal
[21:31] <zykotick9> pinpotal: check using "lsb_release -a"
[21:31] <mister_m> is the ubuntu install disk supposed to detect widnows and install grub? or did I have to do that seperately
[21:31] <auronandace> pinpotal: keep it in the channel please
[21:31] <mdeboard> zykotick9: :P Thanks.
[21:31] <bhast2> linus: http://pastebin.com/pYJvx0p9
[21:31] <hashem> ubottu, I replied above (added a @ by accident)
[21:32] <jrib> mister_m: it should install grub and grub should detect windows
[21:32] <mister_m> jrib: I don't know what I messed up then. it just goes straight to windows like grub didn't get isntalled
[21:32] <jrib> !grub | mister_m
[21:32] <zykotick9> !pm | pinpotal
[21:32] <jrib> mister_m: follow that RestoreGrub link
[21:32] <hashem> Can someone who's not a bot help me get autojump working?
[21:32] <pinpotal> but how can i know if it is updates and has 12.04.1, bacause my system says 12.04
[21:32] <pinpotal> ?
[21:32] <ChaoticanarchyX> jrib: do you think you can help me with one more thing? My grub loader keeps asking me which version of Ubuntu I want to load each time i boot up. This happened when rushed through the installer and accidentally had it set up one of my other drives to load up as the main boot drive. I redid it on the drive i wanted to originally and then through disk utility erased the disk i accidentally had it set up and everytime i boot up it as
[21:33] <auronandace> pinpotal: lsb_release -sd
[21:33] <pinpotal> ?
[21:33] <jrib> !grub | ChaoticanarchyX
[21:33] <pinpotal> terminal?
[21:33] <jrib> ChaoticanarchyX: that second link has info no how to configure grub
[21:33] <auronandace> pinpotal: indeed
[21:34] <linus> http://pastebin.com/pYJvx0p9
[21:35] <ChaoticanarchyX> its having a problem with the page. It keeps saying content encoding error
[21:35] <linus> that is my last working nvidia xorg.conf before 96.43 was dropped now i use nouveau
[21:36] <bhast2> linus: what do I do than
[21:36] <linus> i use dual monitors so it should be pretty much the same and i cant find any serious differneces
[21:36] <Noobuntu> any third party softwares out there to improve the synaptics touchpad experience?
[21:37] <Noobuntu> I mean   - custom touchpad actions, filter out unintended touches, etc?
[21:38] <Gycklarn> jrib, Thanks again for the help, it works again. Had to find out how to make my system writable first, though.
[21:38] <linus> can you post the output of sudo lspci -k
[21:39] <joe> hey guys
[21:39] <ChaoticanarchyX> linus: i use dual moniters as well, i was wondering if you get this with your setup. when your switching your mouse between moniters (simply scrolling from one screen to the next) does it skip you to the other end of the moniter your scrolling onto?
[21:39] <wingy> has anyone here succeeded with installing ubuntu on mac os x?
[21:39] <joe> ubuntu 12.04, everything is blurry after installing nvidia driver
[21:40] <joe> can someone help me please?
[21:40] <GraemeLion> wingy: On the hardware? Yes
[21:40] <linus> @mhoney i think that is a issue with crossing the launcher
[21:40] <wingy> GraemeLion: yeah on macbook
[21:40] <gordonjcp> joe: resolution?
[21:40] <wingy> GraemeLion: then its possible .. do you have advice?
[21:40] <zykotick9> joe: to start, using nvidia-settings verify your resolution is correct
[21:40] <ClientAlive> I never did a bash script before but now I want to do something simple. Can someone help? I want to put my .bash_aliases in /  then make the perms so you have to be root or sudo to modify it, then make the content so it contains aliases for root or myUserName (an if statement?) - to make a section in the file for each. How do you write an if statement for that? Do I need to include put my .bashrc in /  then? Need to make more than one
[21:40] <ClientAlive> [16:37] <ClientAlive> sectin in it to check login and use the right part of the file based on that?
[21:41] <zykotick9> ClientAlive: fyi root's home dir is /root not / - 2nd don't use root...
[21:41] <hashem> wingy, I'd look at installing refit
[21:42] <hashem> wingy, then just make a usb installer stick and use that https://help.ubuntu.com/community/How%20to%20install%20Ubuntu%20on%20MacBook%20using%20USB%20Stick
[21:42] <GraemeLion> wingy: Check this out: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam
[21:42] <ChaoticanarchyX> does anyone else get that using dual moniters?
[21:42] <joe> gordonjcp: 1024x728
[21:42] <wingy> hashem: if i want only ubuntu in my computer then i can ignore refit right?
[21:42] <Brightgalrs> So I've done the following steps:
[21:42] <Brightgalrs> burned the ubuntu 12.04 iso to my flashdrive using unetbootin
[21:42] <Brightgalrs> priority of the BIOS is as it should be
[21:42] <Brightgalrs> booted using prepared flashdrive
[21:42] <Brightgalrs> And the result is "SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 4.06-pre1 Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al" and it just hangs there. What do I do.
[21:42] <FloodBot1> Brightgalrs: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:42] <gordonjcp> joe: does that match the native resolution of your monitor (probably not)
[21:43] <ChaoticanarchyX> its aggravating when your trying to scroll between the screens and you keep ending up on the other side of the screen
[21:43] <joe> gordonjcp: well, i have 19 inch monitor, how could i tell?
[21:43] <Brightgalrs> So I've done the following steps: 1) burned the ubuntu 12.04 iso to my flashdrive using unetbootin 2) priority of the BIOS is as it should be 3) booted using prepared flashdrive; And the result is "SYSLINUX 4.06 EDD 4.06-pre1 Copyright (C) 1994-2011 H. Peter Anvin et al" and it just hangs there. What do I do.
[21:43] <gordonjcp> joe: it'll probably tell you *somewhere*
[21:43] <gordonjcp> joe: can you fiddle with the resolution settings in the control panel?
[21:44] <joe> gordonjcp: nope
[21:44] <zykotick9> Brightgalrs: i have the system issue with my main system, a particular version of syslinux hangs on the same spot (regardless of what distro i'm using, after a particular version - no boot).  Hope you have better luck then I do with it.  best of luck.
[21:44] <hashem> wingy, I would still recommend it, because I've seen many people recommend it. When I installed linux on my macbook air I used rEFIt...It may have worked without it, but everything worked well with it.
[21:45] <Brightgalrs> zykotick9: I have no idea what half of those words mean, but I assume you are in the same boat I am. :(
[21:45] <dr_willis> Brightgalrs:  you did check the md5sum of the iso? you could try some tools other then unetbootin also. Many at the pendrivelinux web site
[21:45] <Brightgalrs> dr_willis: I've tried Universal USB installer as well, same result
[21:45] <zykotick9> Brightgalrs: BUT - unetbootin IS my solution!  try using dd or cat, to put the iso onto the usb perhaps?!?
[21:45] <dr_willis> Brightgalrs:  try a simple DD to the usb ?
[21:46] <saustin> Is it possible to determine which traffic goes through a VPN and which doesn't based on which application is making a connection?
[21:46] <joe> gordonjcp: it's either 1024x728 or auto
[21:46] <Brightgalrs> dr_willis: DD?
[21:46] <dr_willis> Brightgalrs:  yes you can 'dd' (image) the iso straight to usb and it should be bootable.
[21:46] <dr_willis> Brightgalrs:  or some of the grub2 boot the iso  tools at pendrivelinux may work
[21:46] <Brightgalrs> dr_willis: I only have a windows computer to work with right now
[21:46] <joe> gordonjcp: and it wont save it if i hit save
[21:47] <dr_willis> Brightgalrs:  theres tools fo rwindows to image the iso sraight to flash
[21:47] <Brightgalrs> dr_willis: Ok I think I found one, I' try it now and report back
[21:49] <wingy> hashem: ok
[21:49] <wingy> hashem: are you having dualboot?
[21:50] <hashem> wingy, yes I had a dual boot. But you can just format your drive when you're in the ubuntu installer if you don't want to dual boot
[21:50] <wingy> ok
[21:51] <hashem> wingy, so in general, I would install rEFIt, create an installation USB, and then plug the USB in the computer, boot (perhaps hold option while booting) and then boot the install and you're good
[21:51] <wingy> ok thx
[21:51] <dr_willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Win32DiskImager   is what ive used to image a iso to usb. but i think you need to rename the .iso to .img for the tool to see it
[21:52] <subcool> Hey, im setting up a NFS - and it says to mount to "/locale/ubuntu" is that /usr/local?
[21:52] <Brightgalrs> ok thank you gentlemen, the  Image Writer for Windows worked perfectly
[21:54] <zykotick9> subcool: is this for the server (exports file)?  or on the client side (fstab file)?
[21:54] <bekor> hello friends i am using ubuntu 12.04 was running banshee and did not notice that my charger was not working correctly computer ran out of juice and when i restarted banshee did not work reinstalled it installed rhytmbox nothing works eccept vlc to play music any suggestions?
[21:56] <zykotick9> bekor: open a terminal, then "alsamixer".  use your arrow keys to got left and right (it might scroll to more volumes).  veryify that everyone is turned up and NOT muted (MM at the bottom of volumes)
[21:57] <joe> ubuntu 12.04, fonts blurry and fuzzy after installing nvidia driver, can someone help me please?
[21:57] <dr_willis> subcool:  that would be an odd mount point..
[21:58] <dr_willis> joe:  you ran nvidia-settings?  I cant say ive ever had the isue with blurry fonts, unless your res is incorrect.
[21:58] <zykotick9> joe: 1024x768 is a very low resolution.  i'm guessing your nvidia is not currently working.  pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log might help.
[21:59] <joe> zykotick9: thanks zyk, in a few
[22:01] <joe> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195552/
[22:01] <zykotick9> joe: also "lspci | grep -i vga" ;)
[22:01] <joe> zykotick9: on the way ;)
[22:02] <zykotick9> joe: comes down to "Failed to load module "nvidia"" but i'm still reading
[22:03] <joe> zykotick9: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195555/
[22:03] <share> anyone elese experiencing crashes with nvidia 300.# in opengl games?
[22:03] <zykotick9> joe: 2 related questions.  what driver are you currently trying?  how did you install it?
[22:05] <joe> zykotick9: NVIDIA-Linux-x86-96.43.20-pkg1.run, i just sh it
[22:05] <zykotick9> joe: .run - so you installed one you downloaded from nvidia.com
[22:05] <joe> zykotick9: that's right
[22:06] <zykotick9> joe: i'm so sorry - i can't help you further.   i believe there is an #nvidia channel perhaps though.  best of luck.
[22:06] <subcool> zykotick9, im curious about both, but im working the client side
[22:06] <joe> zykotick9: cheers
[22:07] <LABcrab> Hello!  What is the difference between OpenOffice.org and LibreOffice?
[22:07] <dr_willis> joe:  is this one of those laptops with a dual video card setup?
[22:07] <zykotick9> joe: 96 does appear to be the correct driver for that card btw.
[22:07] <zykotick9> dr_willis: no it's old ;)
[22:07] <stupidman> hi all
[22:07] <dr_willis> zykotick9:  :) thats good. ;P
[22:07] <stupidman> can i ask you something
[22:07] <dr_willis> !ask | stupidman
[22:07] <joe> zykotick: thanks i'll give it a shot :)
[22:07] <stupidman> if I install now ubuntu 12.10
[22:07] <stupidman> and if it's final
[22:07] <black_13> is possible to unpack the ubuntu alternate install to directory and use grub2 to boot off the contents of that directory to do a fresh install?
[22:07] <stupidman> can i upgrade to the final
[22:08] <stupidman> or have i to re-install
[22:08] <zykotick9> joe: fyi, i think using nvidia.com drivers on ubuntu is a very bad idea (but that's just my opinion - and i'm SUPER conservative)
[22:08] <stupidman> if I install now ubuntu 12.10
[22:08] <stupidman> and if it's final
[22:08] <stupidman> can i upgrade to the final
[22:08] <joe> dr_willis: not at all, old desktop with external card
[22:08] <zykotick9> !final | stupidman
[22:09] <zykotick9> !enter > stupidman
[22:09] <KyraYui> do i still need to have an antivirus and/or a firewall if im using ubunutu
[22:09] <KyraYui> ubuntu*
[22:09] <zykotick9> !virus | KyraYui
[22:10] <zykotick9> KyraYui: if you don't run services, then there isn't a huge need for a firewall either
[22:10] <invitado> hi, i need help
[22:10] <KyraYui> what about downloading
[22:10] <joe> zykotick: i understand that, i've tried 'nvidia-current' and that was worse
[22:10] <zykotick9> !tab > joe
[22:11] <zykotick9> joe: you need a 96 driver, is one in ubuntu?
[22:11] <dr_willis> KyraYui:  what about it?
[22:11] <KyraYui> do i need an antivirus if im doing alot of downloading in unbuntu
[22:11] <joe> zykotick9: not sure
[22:12] <L1> I want to write a script to run in the terminal, that opens multiple tabs in the terminal and runs a command in each ("compass watch /some/dir"). Is this possible?
[22:12] <sliddjur> When I add a user, is there automaticly a group with the same name then?
[22:12] <zykotick9> joe: sorry man, if you've already tried the nvidia.com driver - i can't/won't help further.  i have no idea how to remove the potential damaging changes it just made.  a package can be easily removed with apt but what you just installed???  someone probably knows, but i consider your system corrupted/compromised.  sorry.
[22:13] <jrib> sliddjur: how did you add the user?
[22:13] <sliddjur> useradd
[22:13] <joe> zykotick9: that's ok no prob. i might restore it and come back to you ;)
[22:14] <grzeslaw> hello gyus, by the mistake in some way I change my lang from english to chinese :D do you know how to change it back from shell?
[22:14] <jrib> sliddjur: by default, yes
[22:14] <grzeslaw> emm.. I mean language in gnome..
[22:15] <subcool> Hey, im setting up a NFS - and it says to mount to "/locale/ubuntu" is that /usr/local?
[22:16] <jrib> subcool: you could use whatever you want
[22:16] <zykotick9> subcool: where you mount things - is up to you.  but i wouldn't mount your NFS stuff anywhere under /usr ...
[22:18] <nobcake> andone know about smaba and how to get it to work on linux and xp?
[22:18] <subcool> zykotick9, really? why?
[22:18] <Gnea> !samba | nobcake
[22:18] <Gnea> nobcake: also try #samba, they are much more knowledgable
[22:19] <subcool> nobcake, HAVE FUN!! samba is such a pain.
[22:19] <zykotick9> subcool: my interpretation of the hierarchy for filesystem reserves /usr for system files.  do many users access these mount points?
[22:20] <subcool> zykotick9, just me
[22:20] <zykotick9> subcool: then what's wrong with mounting to your home directory?  WAY easier!
[22:21] <subcool> zykotick9, nothign? thats what im asking. The guide says to use /locale/ubuntu - thats why i was curious about it
[22:21] <zykotick9> subcool: in your ~ directory just "mkdir foo" then mount into /home/username/foo
[22:21] <evgen123> Hi! I have a problem with kworker 100% CPU loading. How I can resolve this problem?
[22:22] <SpinE> evgen123: "echo disable > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe01"
[22:23] <SpinE> evgen123: and restart
[22:23]  * zykotick9 sees above command failing
[22:23]  * zykotick9 for 2 reasons now, that's gonna reset on reboot for sure
[22:24] <zykotick9> evgen123: ;) http://askubuntu.com/questions/33640/kworker-what-is-it-and-why-is-it-hogging-so-much-cpu
[22:26] <black_13> is it possible to boot off the the alternate iso image using grub2 ?
[22:28] <evgen123> SpinE> Setting is not saved on reboots.
[22:28] <evgen123> zukotick9> and what?
[22:29] <zykotick9> black_13: though it's not internal, grub can boot ISOs somehow (never tried myself).
[22:29] <zykotick9> evgen123: ?  i have no idea what you're even doing.  i was just commenting on what was suggested.
[22:30] <black_13> zykotick9: i have tried to use grub2 but it doesnt work correct i was hoping to find someone who had been successfull
[22:30] <zykotick9> !tab > evgen123 (i assuming you're using copy/paste but it's kinda failing because of the trailing >
[22:30] <zykotick9> !tab > evgen123
[22:31] <Smackbook> is there a way to find out why my computer apparently rebooted at 7am this morning?
[22:32] <evgen123> !tab
[22:32] <zykotick9> Smackbook: check kernel logs (ubuntu uses 2 i believe) somewhere in /var/log/
[22:32] <Smackbook> zykotick9: hmm ok thanks
[22:33] <zykotick9> Smackbook: sorry i can't be more specific :(
[22:33] <evgen123> zyk
[22:33] <Smackbook> np thanks
[22:34] <zykotick9> evgen123: try "zyk<TAB><TAB>"
[22:34] <evgen123> zykotick9: thanks, I understand :-)
[22:35] <evgen123> so, how I can resolv kworker problem?
[22:35] <zykotick9> evgen123: try a non-KDE desktop and see if you still have high cpu load... <not a solution, but interesting testing>
[22:36] <kkrauss> Hey guys, due to some issues with my old unit I have decided to build a new one.  I want to make sure all of my new hardware will function properly with ubuntu, wasn't there a list somewhere of all the hardware that ran with ubuntu?
[22:36] <dr_willis> !hcl
[22:36] <dr_willis> kkrauss:  when in doubt. dont get 'cutting edge' stuff that just came out.. stick with stuff thats been out for a few months.  :) Like last years models on sale. ;P
[22:38] <kkrauss> dr_willis, I am chcking out the list now.  I am not getting anything fancy, cheap board withonboard radeon 3000 chipset.  8 gigs of ram, phenom 2.  Probably the most advanced thing i am getting is a sold state drive
[22:38] <dr_willis> kkrauss:  i avoid anything y ati
[22:38] <dr_willis> by ati.
[22:38] <kkrauss> even that is a little old as it is the samsung 830 model which has been out for a while
[22:38] <anubis_> ati isnt so bad
[22:38] <kkrauss> yah i get mixed opinions on that
[22:38] <dr_willis> anubis_:  when they dont work they are.
[22:39] <anubis_> haha true
[22:39] <kkrauss> 3000 is old chipset it shouldnt be a problem
[22:39] <evgen123> zykotick9: I try to kill X, but proplem not resolved.
[22:39] <zykotick9> evgen123: are you still in kde?
[22:40] <kkrauss> even though fairly cheap, I am hoping this will be a speedy little system
[22:40] <evgen123> zykotick9: no, kde killed with X. kworker it is kernel process, bot not KDE.
[22:40] <anubis_> do you plan on overclocking the phenom?
[22:41] <zykotick9> evgen123: i understand that - are you still using kde as you DE?
[22:41] <kkrauss> I could but probably wont need to, the board has auto OC too if need be.  now I am a bit concerned about the 3000 chipset though as it is not showing up on the list
[22:42] <evgen123> zykotick9: I not understand, sorry. what need to do?
[22:42] <zykotick9> evgen123: can you answer me 1 question first?  are you using KDE?  YES or NO?
[22:43] <kkrauss> there appears to be a howto for the hd version though, wonder if that will work.
[22:43] <kkrauss> worst case scenario Ill buy a video card
[22:43] <capitaninsaneoh> How to I copy the contents of a folder and its tree down without copying the parent?
[22:43] <capitaninsaneoh> With the cp command
[22:44] <capitaninsaneoh> I keep copying the parent folder and I just want the contents of the folder and its child folders
[22:44] <spiouki> hey im using dual boot win 7 ubuntu
[22:44] <spiouki> need a command to scan my win7 with avast linux
[22:44] <spiouki> please tell me the exact command not the short version
[22:44] <zykotick9> capitaninsaneoh: what command exactly did you run?
[22:45] <zykotick9> capitaninsaneoh: if you don't what the folder name itself perhaps a trailing /* would fix it?
[22:45] <capitaninsaneoh> sudo cp -r /home/user /home/user   I need to copy this users home dir
[22:45] <spiouki> tell me the command to scan win7 with avast linux
[22:46] <zykotick9> capitaninsaneoh: "sudo cp -r /home/user /home"
[22:46] <capitaninsaneoh> so sudo cp -r /home/user /home/user/*  ?
[22:46] <zykotick9> capitaninsaneoh: NO
[22:46] <spiouki> anybody???tell me the command to scan win7 with avast linux
[22:46] <capitaninsaneoh> Wont that copy it over the current user?
[22:47] <zykotick9> capitaninsaneoh: you can't use * as a destination!
[22:47] <dr_willis> spiouki:  try 'man avast' ?
[22:47] <dr_willis> spiouki:  you shoud really check the avast homepage/docs.
[22:47] <dr_willis> from their support forums --> The command should be avastcmd (a binary file) that is installed with avast4server
[22:47] <spiouki> where is it?
[22:47] <bekor> hoping someone can help me banshee and rhytmbox movie player all stopped working
[22:47] <dr_willis> http://forum.avast.com/index.php?topic=23529.0
[22:48] <capitaninsaneoh> zykotick9, so won't that copy user1 over user1
[22:48] <dr_willis> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/ubuntu-linux/167600-avast-command-line.html
[22:49] <zykotick9> capitaninsaneoh: NO.  your syntax is backwards.  "cp /source/* /destination/newfolder" would be a differnt then my 1st suggestion (which is better)
[22:49] <evgen123> zykotick9: YES, I use KDE.
[22:49] <zykotick9> evgen123: thanks.  i can't/won't help you.  good luck.
[22:50] <evgen123> zykotick9: I look many changes in /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe18
[22:50] <evgen123> zykotick9: I try "echo 0 > /sys/firmware/acpi/interrupts/gpe18" and it is resolv problem with kworker :-)
[22:51] <evgen123> zykotick9: What did I do? :-)
[22:51] <spiouki> dr_willis: testall or testfull??????
[22:52] <capitaninsaneoh> zykotick9, it skipped many files
[22:52] <zykotick9> capitaninsaneoh: permissions?
[22:52] <capitaninsaneoh> But I did sudo
[22:52] <spiouki> dr_willis: still there?
[22:53] <zykotick9> capitaninsaneoh: can you give any other details?
[22:53] <capitaninsaneoh> cp omitting directory is the error on 4 directories
[22:54] <zykotick9> capitaninsaneoh: and you used -r ?
[22:55] <dr_willis> spiouki:  i dont use the program.. everthing ive mentioned ive googled for and gotten from their man pages/docs
[22:55] <capitaninsaneoh> zykotick9, Oops!  Now I got it!  Thanks
[22:55] <capitaninsaneoh> You rock!
[22:55] <capitaninsaneoh> =)
[22:55] <zykotick9> capitaninsaneoh: glad to help
[22:56] <spiouki> cool thanks dr-willis
[22:56] <capitaninsaneoh> I'm learning - someday I will master this stuff
[22:56] <evgen123> zykotick9: I hurt you? Sorry, I didn't understand why.
[22:58] <SamL> haha
[22:58] <SamL> finally it booted
[22:58] <SamL> jesus
[22:58] <utops> What is difference between x-chat and x-chat gnome ?
[22:59] <zykotick9> utops: IMO xchat is the correct/real version.  and xchat-gnome is something else... not great IMO
[23:00] <bekor> banshee rythmbox Movieplayer all crashing ubuntu 12.04 any suggestions/
[23:00] <utops> zykotick9, i guess so i can't even launch it.
[23:01] <OerHeks> bekor, /var/log/ would be a good start
[23:01] <bekor> can you explain what you mean?
[23:02] <OerHeks> bekor see the log files why it/all crashes
[23:02] <bhast2__> can someone kick bhast2 out
[23:03] <bekor> sounds good but do not know how to do that
[23:03] <zykotick9> bhast2__: ask in #freenode for help with that.  you can somehow...
[23:03] <SamL> thanks to all who helped
[23:04] <damhyojung> hi
[23:05] <hypertux001> hey can anyone help me, I'm new to ubuntu I've just installed 12.04.1 and can't get any sound, and my video color when playing videos is blue. I've set the correct sound outpui to HDMI (im connected to my tv) and I've downloaded codecs, can anyone help?
[23:06] <damhyojung> other sound output is working?
[23:06] <min|dvir|us> Hi. Can someone help me with this issue? " wine : Depends: wine1.5 but it is not going to be installed"
[23:06] <zykotick9> hypertux001: blue in online videos?  right click in flash and disable acceleration
[23:07] <hypertux001> damhyjung , none of them work. zykotick9 downloaded videos and no video output at all if i use VLC
[23:07] <min|dvir|us> I tried installing wine1.5. It said it depends on wine1.5-i386.
[23:07] <min|dvir|us> Then I tried installing wine1.5-i386, and got https://gist.github.com/55fd4aa0343f1c8c0838.
[23:08] <min|dvir|us> I have also tried --no-install-recommends.
[23:08] <zykotick9> hypertux001: in whatever video player you use, change the VO device from XV to X11(testonly) or OPENGL or something that works
[23:08] <damhyojung> use ubuntuone to install the software
[23:09] <hypertux001> ok thanks the blue has gone but still no sound
[23:10] <min|dvir|us> damhyojung: assuming you're talking about the software center, the same thing happens.
[23:10] <sl3ax> i've a problem in ubuntu 12.04 with the sound scrollbar of unity (in the top panel). "Exclude sound" works , but when i scroll the bar for change the volume it doesn't work. With alsamixer yes.
[23:10] <black_13> i am trying to use grub2 load an iso image however when i try the iso9660 driver via insmod grub says its not available
[23:12] <hypertux001> and for sound outputs I have analogue sound, headphones, and 2 HDMI outputs, neither of them work i.e no sound
[23:13] <zykotick9> hypertux001: open a terminal then "alsamixer" verify everything is up and no MM (muted) listed
[23:13] <ConejoASESINO> http://lnk.co/KPM82
[23:13] <ConejoASESINO> opoppps
[23:14] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[23:15] <hypertux001> all of my inputs show 100
[23:15] <hypertux001> *outputs
[23:16] <utops> nice
[23:16] <zykotick9> hypertux001: right device?  F6 to change.
[23:16] <min|dvir|us> Any thoughts?
[23:17] <hypertux001> zykotick9: no other device to switch to
[23:17] <zykotick9> hypertux001: well.. i'm outta ideas.  best of luck.
[23:17] <hypertux001> cheers mate :)
[23:18] <keepbro> hi - umm im a new time user for ubuntu and Im not really very good with computers and was wondering if someone could help me?
[23:19] <hypertux001> anybody else got any ideas for my problem?
[23:19] <h22turbo> keepbro: ask away
[23:20] <keepbro> My problem is that I cant find my wireless network for my laptop. I think what happened is that I connected it via ethernet when I installed the drivers for it and its now not recognising it as a wireless network because it detects everyone elses wifi but not mine
[23:20] <keepbro> and I really cant get my head round the terminal for something this hard this soon
[23:20] <guest-LKGFyd> ndiswrapper
[23:21] <the-erm> Does anyone know if there's a way to make less keep the first line of text in a file at the top of the screen?   In other words make the first line of output "sticky".  I'm reading output from a database and it'd be a nice feature to have.
[23:22] <jrib> the-erm: I doubt it.  But you could just open the file twice in a split tmux or screen session I guess
[23:23] <the-erm> I don't know how to do that.
[23:23] <the-erm> I'd have to run the query twice :)
[23:23] <hypertux001> unless its a driver problem as headphones dont work etiher
[23:23] <adie> is it possible to modify how notifications are displayed?
[23:23] <adie> they pop up in a really annoying spot :|
[23:23] <bekor> hi wondering if someone can help me using ubuntu 12.04 banshee and rythmbox crashing but i noticed they do not crash on guessed account any ideas?
[23:24] <guest-LKGFyd> vlc
[23:24] <dr_willis> when do they crash?
[23:25] <bekor> when ever i try to open them. i was using my laptop running banshee and bettery ran out than restarted and things did not work after that
[23:25] <Norrin> http://pastie.org/4692752
[23:26] <keepbro> No takers on the "help Keepbro with network problem" problem?
[23:26] <Norrin> dpkg cannot remove lsb-relese
[23:26] <Norrin> keepbro, you should explain your problem
[23:26] <Norrin> don't ask to ask
[23:26] <keepbro> My problem is that I cant find my wireless network for my laptop. I think what happened is that I connected it via ethernet when I installed the drivers for it and its now not recognising it as a wireless network because it detects everyone elses wifi but not mine
[23:26] <xangua> adie: nodify them how¿ with this tool i can at least put them at the top right http://www.webupd8.org/2012/06/closable-movable-notifyosd.html
[23:27] <adie> I will try that, thanks
[23:27] <sl3ax> Guys, anyone can help me? My control volume on the unity bar doesnt' work!
[23:27] <Norrin> keepbro, make sure the network can be seen from some other device
[23:27] <Norrin> might be something work with the network
[23:28]  * Norrin never used unity
[23:28] <keepbro> well i have my PC with windows 7 and a wifi card and it picks it up fine
[23:28] <Norrin> keepbro, tried to turn the wifi interface on the linux off and then back on?
[23:28] <keepbro> haha yes
[23:29] <keepbro> several hundered times
[23:29] <Norrin> keepbro, what about restarting the computer?
[23:29] <keepbro> done that too
[23:29] <xangua> sl3ax: did you remove pulseaudio¿
[23:29] <piezo> does somebody know why "allow-hotplug" support is removed in ubuntu? (/etc/network/interfaces)
[23:29] <piezo> that really sucks, specially for headless servers
[23:29] <Norrin> keepbro, it is able to join other networks?
[23:29] <keepbro> absolutely
[23:29] <keepbro> just not the one i want it too
[23:29] <sl3ax> xangua: no. I've it and my sound works , also if i set it from alsamixer, but with the scrollbar of unity doesn't work.
[23:30] <Norrin> keepbro, might have to change the wifi network in some way.  like the ssid
[23:30] <sl3ax> xangua: Only "exclude audio" works on bar
[23:30] <Norrin> or the bandwidth it is running on
[23:30] <keepbro> okie dokie
[23:30] <Norrin> i have a problem with dpkg.  it is stuck in a bad state.  can't remove a package because of an error
[23:30] <Norrin> http://pastie.org/4692752
[23:30] <RegexRon> hmm
[23:31] <Norrin> so what can be done is dpkg is refusing to remove a package?
[23:31] <piezo> ok nobody that can answer serious questions
[23:31] <piezo> pff
[23:31] <Norrin> piezo, i haven't seen your question, but you might be right
[23:32] <piezo> does somebody know why "allow-hotplug" support is removed in ubuntu? (/etc/network/interfaces) <-
[23:32] <piezo> its removed, no udev rules about that, etc
[23:32] <keepbro> I tried connecting to it as a hidden network but it never connected
[23:33] <Norrin> piezo, seeing that it is linux, why don't you add them.  whatever ubuntu has done should be changable
[23:33] <keepbro> and ive tried the terminal but Im very new and its a bit greek to me - I followed a guide so I know that the drivers installed correctly
[23:34] <piezo> Norrin: this time? got it?...
[23:35] <piezo> was it replaced by netplugd?!
[23:35] <Pikachu6708> Hiya!
[23:35] <Gnea> does anyone recall the name of the application that I can install to install an ISO to a USB drive?
[23:36] <piezo> Gnea: unetbootin ... or dd
[23:36] <Gnea> unetbootin, thank you
[23:36] <Gnea> yeah, dd isn't going to work for this instance :)
[23:37] <keepbro> thanks anyway norrin
[23:37] <Noobuntu> how do I configure xserver-org-input-synaptics driver for my touchpad?
[23:37] <keepbro> bye
[23:37] <TeamRocket1233c> Back!
[23:38] <piezo> Noobuntu: google.... https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Touchpad_Synaptics#Advanced_Configuration
[23:44] <Norrin> how to remove a package when dpkg fails to do it?
[23:44] <Norrin> http://pastie.org/4692752
[23:44] <deadmund> Norrin: looks like a python 2 vs python 3 error
[23:44] <deadmund> Norrin: have you messed with python / default python?
[23:44] <Norrin> nope
[23:45] <Norrin> never had it installed until i just now tried to install it and it ended up in this state
[23:45] <deadmund> Norrin: so then this is a bug and should be listed as such but in the mean time I have a workaround idea
[23:45] <Norrin> i saw that thread.  i didn't do any of that though
[23:45] <deadmund> Norrin: I have no idea what thread you're talking about.  You installed python just now?
[23:45] <mininessie> is there a minecraft launcher to launch minecraft without paying for the launcher in the software center
[23:45] <Norrin> yeah
[23:45] <deadmund> Norrin: Because python is installed by default..
[23:46] <deadmund> Norrin: can you tell me the output of ls -l /usr/bin/python  ??
[23:46] <Norrin> it was doing soemthing with python as a dependency
[23:46] <Norrin> wow
[23:46] <Norrin> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 22 2012-07-20 00:24 /usr/bin/python -> /usr/local/bin/python3
[23:46] <Norrin> i have no memory of ever using python on this server
[23:47] <deadmund> Norrin: The problem is that python 3 is your default (which is weird).  I told you, python is installed by default.  What is confusing you about that.
[23:47] <Norrin> but python3 is installed by default?
[23:47] <deadmund> Norrin: no (that is what is strange)
[23:47] <Norrin> that's my point
[23:47] <deadmund> Norrin: ahh, I agree. It is strange :P
[23:48] <deadmund> Norrin: Do you know how to fix it?
[23:48] <mininessie> is there a minecraft launcher to launch minecraft without paying for the launcher in the software center
[23:48] <Norrin> no, because i don't have 2.6 installed
[23:48] <Norrin> 2.x*
[23:48] <deadmund> Norrin: sudo apt-get install python2   (should grab some python 2.x)  Are you familiar with python?
[23:48] <Norrin> don't know the lang, if that's what you mean
[23:49] <deadmund> Norrin: ok.  Yeah, I recognized the syntax change.  Otherwise this would have been a mystery to me!  Anyway, did you install python 2.x  ?
[23:50] <deadmund> Norrin: I 1/2 expect it to freak out.  Since it wanted 3.x for some reason.
[23:50] <Norrin> got 2.6 installed.  changing the symlink now
[23:51] <deadmund> Norrin: Are you having to change the symlink manually?  (doubly strange)
[23:51] <Norrin> i'm now thinking i must have compiled python3, installed, and put that symlink in place
[23:51] <Norrin> just can't remember why
[23:52] <Norrin> hmm.  it was for znc
[23:52] <mininessie> is there a minecraft launcher to launch minecraft without paying for the launcher in the software center
[23:52] <deadmund> Norrin: ha.  I'm guessing it would have changed the symlink if you had installed python 2.x and then removed 3.x
[23:52] <deadmund> Norrin: what is znc ?
[23:52] <Norrin> a irc bouncer
[23:52] <Norrin> 2.x was already installed before today
[23:52] <Norrin> 3.x is installed from source
[23:53] <phamnam> ???
[23:53] <Norrin> maybe i can reconfigure 2.6-minimal & it'll fix it
[23:53] <deadmund> Norrin: Now try to purge that package.
[23:53] <deadmund> Norrin: if you manually changed the link that it'll make no diff.
[23:53] <deadmund> phamnam: are you confused about something??
[23:56] <mininessie> is there a minecraft launcher to launch minecraft without paying for the launcher in the software center
[23:56] <magicalChicken> mininessie: just execute the .jar
[23:57] <delinquentme> Hey all .. quick question .. Am I being paranoid if I'm worried about a keylogger .. being installed on a 12.04 instance running in a VM?  Or is most linux software inherently devoid of this kind of chance?
[23:57] <mininessie> magicalChicken: how would i do that
[23:57] <deadmund> delinquentme: Well, what evidence do you have of a keylogger?
[23:57] <deadmund> delinquentme: (it is very unlikely to being with)
[23:57] <Norrin> fix it, deadmund
[23:58] <Norrin> fixed*
[23:58] <keruna> i am trying to run pianobar. at login i get error: newtwork error: TLS read faild. I have googled but not come up with much. just wondered if any of that means anything to someone. thx
[23:58] <magicalChicken> mininessie: you should be able to just right click on the jar and there should be a "Run with java 6" or "Run with java 7" option or something like that
[23:58] <delinquentme> deadmund, I dont have any .. but I think its possible
[23:58] <Norrin> by changing the sym to piont to 2.6 and not 3.x
[23:58] <magicalChicken> mininessie: or use java -jar from the command line
[23:58] <Norrin> deadmund, thanks!
[23:58] <deadmund> Norrin: awesome :)
[23:58] <delinquentme> Also I have no idea how to scan something like ubuntu for a keylogger
[23:58] <deadmund> delinquentme: Did you install any software from places other than repos?
[23:58] <delinquentme> deadmund, nope
[23:58] <delinquentme> but someone else built the VM
[23:59] <deadmund> delinquentme: Then it is EXTREMELY unlikely
[23:59] <deadmund> delinquentme: I guess that person might have tampered with your VM