[01:36] <donimo> with an old celeron 1.7ghz and 512 of ram, is it advisable to jump to 12.04?
[02:00] <Gabe_W> I am trying to change the touch area on my synaptic touch pad is that possible?
[02:00] <Gabe_W> this laptop has a touchpad the size of an ipad
[02:04] <noskcaj> donimo: for ubuntu yes, for xubuntu or lubuntu no
[02:05] <noskcaj> donimo: sorry the reverse of that
[02:06] <donimo> thanks, i'll get 12.04 later.
[02:06] <donimo> xubuntu
[02:08] <drc> Gabe_W: I have minimal knowledge of touchpad commands, but you might look at "man synaptics"
[02:09] <Sysi> !synaptics
[02:09]  * drc bets they have the same stuff  (but didn't have the url :)
[03:36] <pezmaker> hello all
[03:36] <HeadlessZombie> hiya
[03:37] <pezmaker> bare with me as I setup the background for my problem?
[03:37] <pezmaker> bear? bare?
[03:37] <HeadlessZombie> k
[03:37] <HeadlessZombie> bear
[03:37] <pezmaker> roger. :)
[03:38] <pezmaker> was running straight up ubuntu, got tired of the latest misery that is gnome, stumbled across xubuntu and installed xubuntu desktop
[03:38] <pezmaker> loving everything about it, except one thing that I can't seem to find a fix that works for...  many website fonts in chrome are unreadable
[03:39] <pezmaker> firefox is just fine.  Did not have this problem before switchover to xfce
[03:40] <HeadlessZombie> sorry, i wont be much help here. you can set what font and the size in chromium's prefrences, but i dont use it cuz chromium doesn't work on some of the sites i use
[03:41] <HeadlessZombie> firefox has proven to be the best of the linux browsers for stability and compatibility
[03:42] <pezmaker> Roger that.  It's frustrating because it worked absolutely fine until the switchover, so it's got to be either a different package or a conflicting config setting between gnome and xfce, but nothing i've found in searches has worked.
[03:42] <pezmaker> also, thanks for reading anyway :)
[03:42] <HeadlessZombie> if that doesnt work, remove it and re-install. but beyond that, im no help
[03:43] <HeadlessZombie> chromium seems to work a lil better under kubuntu, but that was just my personal experience with it. like i said i dont use chromium
[05:35] <pezmaker> HeadlessZombie: figured out the fonts problem.
[05:35] <pezmaker> just thought i'd return to share with anyone who's paying attention, so you can help if this comes along for anyone else
[05:36] <pezmaker> summary of problem: chrome web fonts generally screwed up and no amount of dinking with antialias configs or chrome font settings fixed it, firefox worked fine, and chrome had worked fine in gnome
[05:36] <pezmaker> ~/.fonts.conf needs to be added (or edited) with a small block that apparently xfce skips
[05:37] <pezmaker> solution here: http://kmansoft.com/2012/08/15/debian-xfce-google-chrome-ugly-fonts-all-of-a-sudden/
[05:37] <pezmaker> I had accidentally duplicated the header lines for the file and thus it didn't take, until I resolved that issue.
[05:38] <pezmaker> anyway, hope that can help someone, anyone, in the future.  Peace :)
[05:49] <eubey> can someone help me install the nvidia graphics drivers on xubuntu? They're not showing up in the "Additional Drivers" dialog
[05:52] <baizon> eubey: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[05:53] <baizon> or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1872740
[05:55] <apm1> baizon, ?
[05:55] <baizon> apm1: !
[05:56] <apm1> baizon, oh sorry ignore that i posted in the wrong channel :)
[12:24] <gmagno> hello. I'm not sure if I already been here, I've been knocking on so many doors... but no success :( I'm trying to get the terminal make some speaker sounds with "tput bel", and have no idea why it doesn't do it. I've already loaded pcspkr module and now I can make speaker sound with "beep"
[12:24] <gmagno> but still no sound with "tput bel"
[12:25] <gmagno> since centerim5, the chat app I'm using relies on "tput bel" to throw sound notifications, I still have the problem
[12:25] <gmagno> I'm using xubuntu 12.04 32bits
[12:26] <gmagno> I've alread been in #xfce, #xterm, #linux, #ubuntu, #pulseaudio...
[12:26] <gmagno> yo name it
[12:26] <gmagno> oh, and #centerim of course
[12:26] <gmagno> echo -e '\a' also does nothing
[12:27] <gmagno> ^G nothing as well
[12:27] <gmagno> I'm becoming a bit desperate
[12:27] <holstein> gmagno: i might try sending an email to a server team... i tried for a few minutes to get a bell to sound in terminal a few years ago, and just gave up on it
[12:28] <Unit193> Basically, you're not going to be able to enable that bell, I tried at one point to get it, but only got as close to it would if I connected over VNC to the computer. (what?)
[12:28] <gmagno> holstein, oh :-o that would be great. I'm glad I'm not the only one with this
[12:28] <Unit193> Things may have changed, though.
[12:29] <gmagno> but is this a linux problem, an ubuntu problem, or a xfce problem?
[12:30] <holstein> gmagno: im not even sure its a problem
[12:33] <gmagno> Unit193, let me ask, do you have now this issue? Does "tput bel" make any sound on your computer?
[12:34] <Unit193> I don't have this issue as I don't want the bell, found a much better way to do what I wanted.  Still no bell last I knew.
[13:01] <Seikao> Hello, I'm sorry for asking such a pathetic question, but do you have time to answer something for me while Xubuntu installs?
[13:02] <Seikao> Do steam-purchased PC games work on Xubuntu?
[13:53] <David-A> Seikao: I don't use steam, but I hear many games works. Name some of your games maybe someone can answer.
[13:54] <David-A> Seikao: If it works in ubuntu it should also work in xubuntu, so if no answer here, ask in #ubuntu
[14:04] <baizon> whats the problem?
[14:06] <itai> hi there, juts installed xubuntu, would like to add japanese input system , but it seems like all the methods i've googled involve downloading the entire support files, i dont need the menus in japanese ,just to be able to input it
[14:08] <bazhang> !ibus | itai
[14:11] <itai> bazhang, thanks, i have ibus and it allowed me to add chinese  (cause im loacted in china, very smart of xubuntu) , but i looked through the settings and it doesnt allow me to add any other language
[14:11] <itai> that it the "add" option in ibus>settings>input method is greyed out
[14:11] <bazhang> itai, thats odd, I can add about 5-6 languages here
[14:12] <bazhang> you did the ibus setup, right?
[14:12] <itai> yes ,你看？ chinese works...
[14:12] <itai> but cant add anything ,,,
[14:13] <bazhang> it then needs to be restarted once the language packs are installed and the system configured
[14:13] <bazhang> language packs must be installed first
[14:13] <itai> so how do i install the language packs?
[14:13] <bazhang> via the package manager
[14:14] <itai> i searched for japanese thru the ubuntu software center , there was no input system
[14:14] <bazhang> or use the system administration language support to add them
[14:14] <bazhang> ibus wont allow an add unless they are installed
[14:15] <itai> the sys admin language support forces me to download the entire thing, menus ,firefox translation etc, im on a slow connection , it has been running for hours now,
[14:15] <itai> do you maybe know the package name and i can just apt-get it ?
[14:16] <itai> it even downloads gnome packs for some reason...
[14:19] <bazhang> the essential japanese fonts, etc?
[14:19] <bazhang> there are numerous japanese systems available in the ibus selection
[14:20] <itai> just the input system , i guess i would need some fonts ,
[14:20] <bazhang> system input methods that is
[14:20] <itai> anthy is what i usually use
[14:20] <bazhang> !find anthy
[14:20] <itai> that simple>
[14:20] <itai> ?
[14:20] <bazhang> !info ibus-anthy
[14:21] <itai> will it work alongside chinese ?
[14:21] <bazhang> !info anthy
[14:21] <bazhang> of course
[14:21] <bazhang> so try anthy and ibus-anthy for starters
[14:22] <itai> thanks, you know, bazhang, i've been using ubuntu for many years and whenever there's a problem  you are always there on the irc, so thank you!
[14:22] <bazhang> well, save the thanks til its fixed, but OK
[14:24] <itai> i'll try to apt-get anthy and see what happens, thank again , have a wonderful day (or night)
[14:24] <bazhang> has been started! If you can not use IBus, please run System -> Administration -> Language Support and set the "Keyboard Input Method" to "ibus", then log out and back in again.
[14:24] <bazhang> that was the ibus setup message
[14:25] <itai> interesting
[14:25] <bazhang> err ibus-setup
[14:25] <bazhang> let me try to add some languages
[14:30] <bazhang> なに？
[14:31] <itai> works for you
[14:32] <itai> apt-get is downloading some packages , hope it works, as i was saying ,im on a very slow connectiuon
[14:32] <bazhang> the language support prompted me to add some packages, then I chose ibus as the system input method, and it was ok
[14:33] <bazhang> about 26mb here
[14:34] <itai> i think my mirrors are just too slow , i'll change them and see if it helps, anyway gotta go, thanks for everything
[14:34] <bazhang> np
[15:07] <daedaluz> I wish to downgrade back to xfce 4.8 from 4.10 I took from ppa, how do I do it?
[15:12] <martinphone> how do I copy a file to my etc directory where sudo privileges are needed?
[15:20] <martinphone> can anyone help me with:
[15:21] <martinphone> sudo -u gnunet touch ~/.gnunet/gnunet.conf
[15:21] <martinphone>  touch: cannot touch `/home/dexter/.gnunet/gnunet.conf': Permission denied
[15:21] <daedaluz> martinphone: sudo -u touch ~/.gnunet/gnunet.conf
[15:22] <daedaluz> what's that gnunet doing there?
[15:22] <martinphone> daedaluz, readme
[15:24] <martinphone> daedaluz, is sudo -u gnunet mkdir ~/.gnunet/  also wrong? do I need to sudo -u mkdir ~/.gnunet/  ?
[15:24] <daedaluz> yes
[15:25] <martinphone> sudo -u touch ~/.gnunet/gnunet.conf
[15:25] <martinphone> sudo: unknown user: touch
[15:25] <daedaluz> and leave that u out btw
[15:25] <martinphone> sudo: unable to initialize policy plugin
[15:25] <daedaluz> just checked what it does
[15:25] <daedaluz> "sudo touch ~/.gnunet/gnunet.conf"
[15:26] <daedaluz> but I don't get it, you are sudoing in your own $HOME
[15:26] <martinphone> disregard all this
[15:34] <martinphone> daedaluz, thats my noobness
[15:34] <martinphone> not my home, but /compiled/gnunet/, but a dire in which sudo is not needed
[15:35] <martinphone> daedaluz, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1194897/
[15:35] <martinphone> all that in dir: home/compiled/gnunet/gnunet-0.9.3
[15:56] <martinphone> can I use glade 3, it requires gtk3
[16:24] <martinphone> I need libxml 2.4.1. In the repo I find a libxml--2.6-2 but version number 2.34
[16:24] <martinphone> is this the one I need?
[16:26] <holstein> martinphone: i would say try it, and if you need a different one, step it down
[16:26] <martinphone> damned gnunet
[18:03] <Foxhound-Z> I'm having trouble configuring my Wireless NIC
[18:03] <Foxhound-Z> I'm running Xubuntu 12.04
[18:03] <Foxhound-Z> Per the directions on this post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1800178
[18:03] <Foxhound-Z> I managed to install the RT5370 drivers
[18:04] <Foxhound-Z> But I can't get the GUI front end for wireless tools to detect the wireless driver
[18:04] <Foxhound-Z> moreover, I can't seem to establish a connection with my access point
[18:05] <Foxhound-Z> hmm
[18:05] <Foxhound-Z> Can anyone lend me a hand?
[18:08] <livingdaylight> Foxhound-Z, wish I could. but that's over my head
[18:09] <livingdaylight> seems most people here are having a lazy sunday
[18:18] <martinphone> lazing on a sunday afternoon...
[18:18] <martinphone> how do I become root from a terminal?
[18:25] <livingdaylight> martinphone, use sudo?
[18:25] <livingdaylight> or do sudo su
[18:27] <livingdaylight> sudo -s
[18:50] <Foxhound-Z> martinphone, now, how about you help me with my mess ;-)
[18:57] <martinphone> me?
[18:57] <martinphone> I DOUBT i CAN HELP ANYONE
[18:57] <martinphone> sorry for that
[19:26] <grumbel> Stupid question: How to I read man pages from the GUI?
[19:27] <grumbel> there must be something better then "man pulseaudio | xless"
[19:28] <Unit193> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/pulseaudio
[19:28] <Unit193> Like that?
[19:29] <TheSheep> grumbel: install devhelp
[19:29] <TheSheep> !info devhelp
[19:29] <Sysi> !info yelp
[19:30] <grumbel> Neither yelp nor devhelp seem to support man pages
[19:30] <TheSheep> that's weird, I'm sure devhelp did at some point
[19:31] <grumbel> devhelp just gives me access to all the Gnome reference docu as far as I can tell
[19:31] <calico> Does anyone one if the broadcom wireless have been solved already in the current Ubuntu version? I tried hard to migrate to Ubuntu some months ago but the wireless problems were a deal breaker
[19:31] <grumbel> yelp seems to be completely useless, as that just looks like a poor mans webbrowser
[19:33] <TheSheep> grumbel: it is a browser, but not for web pages, but for help pages
[19:36] <TheSheep> anyways, looks like that functionality was removed (or it didn't exist in the first place and I remember wrong), so I guess you could just stream your man page through man2html and to a web browser
[20:05] <n2diy> I'm listening to the game on my am radio, can I pipe the audio through my sound card and out of my speakers?
[20:05] <TheSheep> n2diy: sure, go ahead
[20:06] <n2diy> TheSheep, how?
[20:06] <TheSheep> just connect your radio to your computers audio in socket?
[20:06] <TheSheep> usually the red one
[20:07] <n2diy> TheSheep, and what do I play the audio with?
[20:07] <TheSheep> I don't understand
[20:07] <HeadlessZombie> plug the AM radio into the microphone port
[20:07] <HeadlessZombie> make sure mic is turned up in the alsa mixer
[20:09] <n2diy> HeadlessZombie, ok thats done,  what app. do I use to play the audio?
[20:09] <n2diy> TheSheep,  what app. do I play the audio with?
[20:11] <Sysi> n2diy: http://s8dragon.wordpress.com/2010/12/26/listen-to-microphone-over-the-speakers-using-pulseaudio/
[20:11] <TheSheep> n2diy: no need for an app
[20:15] <n2diy> not working
[20:16] <grumbel> n2diy: start pavucontrol
[20:16] <n2diy> grumbel, ok, playing with alsamixer now.
[20:17] <grumbel> n2diy: under "Input Devices" in pavucontrol, do you see any action?
[20:18] <grumbel> you might also want to try gnome-alsamixer
[20:18] <grumbel> Actually I think you might be able to do it completely without pulseaudio
[20:19] <grumbel> as soundcards should be able to handle that directly
[20:19] <grumbel> click around in gnome-alsamixer on the Line and Mic settings
[20:20] <grumbel> and maybe the Capture settings
[20:20] <grumbel> Some of those should make mic output come out of the speakers
[20:20] <grumbel> if that doesn't help, but you do actually get mic input (can test that with Audacity)
[20:20] <grumbel> you can abuse pulseaudio loopback module to redirect audio
[20:28] <n2diy> ok, installed gnome-alsamixer, no luck with that either. Sounds work here. Can't play now, have to listen to the end of the game on the radio, thanks all! Go Eagles.
[21:14] <CrisBee> Good evening! :)
[21:17] <David-A> hi
[21:17] <CrisBee> hi
[21:31] <camefromwindows> does anyone have experience dual booting with windows?
[21:32] <camefromwindows> no?
[21:32] <well_laid_lawn> !dualboot
[21:33] <camefromwindows> thanks
[21:33] <well_laid_lawn> the bot does ;)
[21:33] <well_laid_lawn> cheers
[21:33] <Mathias> i'm dualbooting :P
[21:33] <camefromwindows> what windows are you using?
[21:34] <camefromwindows> assuming you're using windows...
[21:34] <Mathias> windows/wineeww yup
[21:35] <camefromwindows> does the xubuntu partition tool (in the liveCD) play nice with win7? or should I make the partition in win7?
[21:37] <Mathias> it plays nice with windows
[21:38] <camefromwindows> ok then... Do I have to create swap manually, or does it do that for me? b/c I heard I need that
[21:39] <Mathias> depends on what you choose :P
[21:40] <camefromwindows> ok then... I need to go burn an iso. Thanks for your help
[23:28] <orangepnut> my internet dropped earlier, can anyone help me install a font?
[23:32] <aicasn> someone please recommend a good a/v muxer
[23:32] <aicasn> HandBrake is a good video encoder, but it's not intended to be a muxer, per-se
[23:41] <well_laid_lawn> I like avidemux
[23:41] <well_laid_lawn> !info avidemux
[23:46] <aicasn> i'll check it out. thanks