=== skreech_ is now known as Daskreech [06:32] morning :) [06:50] apachelogger: hey, kde 4.9.1 [06:50] is in testing [06:50] since friday [08:02] hello [08:04] cortexA9: hi [08:04] yesterday i tried the daily iso but i have some problem with xorg [08:05] okay, if you are sure it's a problem with X, then #ubuntu-x is what you want [08:07] where is the daily iso of today ? [08:08] not released ? [08:12] cortexA9: http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily/20120909/ [08:12] last daily ISO [08:12] ->afk [08:14] thanks [08:26] apachelogger: ping [08:27] apachelogger: what is the plan with kmix rewrite - what new features are coming? [08:27] shadeslayer: how is ktp password dialogue coming along ?: [08:28] jussi: haven't started because my notifications patches need a rewrite [08:28] :( [08:28] well ... not an entire rewrite [08:28] d_ed abstracted some stuff into a class and I just need to use that instead [08:30] I think I should be able to start next week [08:32] wot : Depends: kdevelop (>= 4:4.0.1), kdevelop-php-l10n (= ${binary:Version}), kdevelop-php-docs-l10n, ${misc:Depends}, ${shlibs:Depends} [08:32] Suggests: kdevelop-php-l10n [08:32] kdevelop-php depends AND suggests kdevelop-php-l10n ? [08:33] * shadeslayer follows debian and drops the depends [08:34] oh wait, Riddell any reason why you made develop-php depend on kdevelop-php-l10n ? [09:29] shadeslayer: hmm I guess not [09:30] shadeslayer: could you give me the ktp ppa address again please ? [09:46] jussi: what kmix rewrite? [09:47] [21:35:58] we are going to redo kmix from ground up pretty much to fix that [09:48] where did I leak that? [09:51] when we talked about the USB headset/master channel bug [09:51] in this channel, few days back [09:52] weds evening [09:53] stop talking to me while I am drunk [09:53] jussi: if anything features will go away [09:53] aww :( [09:53] yofel: is that 4.9.1 on your dyndns up-to-date? [09:54] I should note that I am unable to build it because the script always errors out after 5 minutes or so :/ [09:56] apachelogger: I would like to have an indicator style thing :/ [09:57] hm? [09:57] a plasmoid? [09:57] like what ubuntu has for sound in the "tray" area [09:59] jussi: https://launchpad.net/~telepathy-kde/+archive/ppa [10:02] Riddell: so ... remove depends? [10:03] apachelogger: I didn't do anything since then [10:06] shadeslayer: and file a bug on language-selector to add kdevelop to /usr/share/language-selector/data/pkg_depends [10:06] will do === apol_ is now known as apol [10:45] Riddell: I'm not sure I understand /usr/share/language-selector/data/pkg_depends [10:46] shadeslayer: it's used by language selector and our kcm locale to work out what to install for a language [10:46] ahhh ok [10:46] got it [10:46] or it could just be added to the language packs directly [10:47] idk alot about the language stuff so you'll have to tell me which one is better ;) [10:53] apachelogger: is kdegraphics-strigi-analyzer in bzr ready to release? I'm working on clearing http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/transitions/tiff.html [10:53] but I have no idea whether the new upstream release there is OK to upload [10:57] cjwatson: it'll be uploaded with the rest of KDE SC 4.9.1 [10:58] which should be soon so I think you can leave it and wait for us to upload it [10:59] OK, sounds good to me, thanks [10:59] the rest of the tiff transition isn't desperately urgent really, I just want to get it out of the way [11:00] Riddell: bug 1048584 filed [11:00] Launchpad bug 1048584 in language-selector (Ubuntu) "kdevelop-php should pull kdevelop-php-l10n in pkg_depends" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1048584 [11:00] shadeslayer: can you tag kubuntu and nominate for quantal so it appears on the radar [11:01] Riddell: done [11:02] Manually-specified variables were not used by the project: [11:02] KDE4_USE_ALWAYS_FULL_RPATH [11:02] that probably should be looked into [11:06] someone might want to test KDevelop Beta https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental [11:06] s/Beta/RC [11:06] yofel: so it appears only pim-runtime has the only real blocker left [11:06] what's the problem there? [11:09] file needs adding to .install [11:10] ah [11:10] I thought I added that [11:10] if no one's looking at it, I'll look at it in another 40 minutes or so [11:12] perhaps not uploaded or info is outdated [11:12] Does quassel work in quantal? [11:13] txwikinger: it does for me [11:13] apachelogger: I can regen it if you want, but I made sure that things are in sync when I left it [11:13] yofel: please regen [11:13] otherwise I think we are good for upload [11:14] what's the url? [11:14] yofel.dyndns.org/kubuntu/4.9.1.html [11:14] hmm.. For me it lost again the configs during upgrade.. this is annoying happing every time [11:14] And now I cannot get it connect to my remote core [11:14] takes a bit [11:14] Network configuration - everything is greyed out [11:15] apachelogger: why haven't you added media-player-info to kdelibs? [11:15] cause it needs investigation [11:15] also try to keep unrelated stuff out of release uploads [11:15] what sort of investigation? [11:16] what sort of relationship should be it be, should it even be on kdelibs, what are the implications of having it on kdelibs, what does it drag in... [11:16] one does not simply add things to mordor [11:16] :D [11:17] just seems to be a bunch of data files [11:17] will look at it tomorrrow [11:17] *tomorrow [11:18] apachelogger: done [11:18] Do I have to upgrade the remote core again? [11:18] yofel: thx [11:21] Ah got it [12:21] who wants to upload 4.9.1? [12:23] apachelogger: just use my VPS [12:24] yes sir [12:25] just clean up first :P [12:25] like it's not cleaned up :P [12:26] you just cleaned it up :P [12:26] apachelogger: did you fix kdepim-runtime? [12:26] no, I left it for dead :S [12:27] mmm [12:30] god I love this [12:31] my local branch is a clone, the one on your vps is a checkout [12:31] incidentially enough I now need to commit & pushon the one and only commit on the other, and pull on the one and up on the other [12:31] * apachelogger loves how bzr turned into a paradigm c-fck === apachelogger changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Quantal bugs: http://goo.gl/ESmab | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | apachelogger: SRU plymouth logo & fix ipod support | UDS-R: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-uds [12:45] heh [12:47] how odd, find . -name "metadata.desktop~" -type f -print | xargs rm -f ... doesn't delete any files that find returns [12:47] -print? [12:48] -print doesn't matter :P [12:49] shadeslayer: try -print0 | xargs -0 rm -fv [12:49] oh look, it worked [13:11] ScottK: would you review gammaray in NEW? bug #1047239 [13:11] Launchpad bug 1047239 in Ubuntu "[FFe] Sync gammaray 1.2.1-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1047239 [13:23] Hey all [13:23] Hi BluesKaj_ [13:23] hi smartboyhw [13:24] debfx: Not today. Ping me again on Wednesday. [13:28] hello. Just me or daily iso have an X problem ? [13:38] ok. [13:40] ok ? [13:42] cortexA9: I doubt any of us have tested the daily ISOs today [13:43] ok no prob [13:43] Riddell: ping === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:18] bug 1033287 [15:18] Launchpad bug 1033287 in Kubuntu PPA "akonadi_kolabproxy_resource missing in 4.9" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1033287 [15:18] some kolab users getting grumpy that 4.9 backports don't support kolab [15:18] why do they not? [15:19] also who feels brave enough to backport .1? [15:19] apachelogger: I'm on it [15:19] just need to script it using ubuntu-backportpackage [15:19] it would mean backporting libkolab and libkolabxml and maybe other things too [15:19] or backportpackage [15:20] apachelogger: do we have a list of packages that constitute KDE SC? [15:20] aha [15:20] kdesc-packages-precise.txt [15:22] apachelogger: how did you sign all the packages on my VPS? [15:22] some magical script? [15:23] shadeslayer: ssh ftpubuntu@ftpmaster.kde.org ls -1 /home/ftpubuntu/stable/4.9.1/src/ | sed 's/$.*$-4\.9\.1\.tar\.xz/\1/' |grep -v kde-l10n [15:23] shadeslayer: if you're onto backports, what the state of quantal packages? [15:23] list of packages [15:24] shadeslayer: note that for 4.9 you need kdesc-packages-quantal.txt IIRC [15:24] <3 apachelogger [15:24] or that... right ^^ [15:24] also signing [15:24] for p in `ls *changes`; do echo "debsign -r lehost `pwd`/$p"; done; [15:24] gotcha [15:24] lehost being a ssh config host [15:25] Riddell: they're building [15:25] yofel_: I highly discourage the static lists approach btw [15:25] static things are meant to fail really [15:25] and I won't argue against that [15:26] well, it's a matter of convenience. But as we need net access anyway you're right [15:28] the assumption that upstream never forgets to prepare all tarballs is a bit flawed [15:28] also we don't package everything [15:29] apachelogger: clean out /home/apachelogger plz [15:29] the kdesc-package-names script from my branch prints all tarball names and does the kdelibs -> kde4libs substitution [15:32] w00t [15:32] out of memory [15:33] * yofel_ makes his way home - bbl [15:39] apachelogger: I'm deleting /home/apachelogger/491 [15:39] u monster [15:39] :P [15:39] I'm running the backport script and need spaze [15:41] with sudo comes the great power of deleting /home/apachelogger/491 [15:41] :> [15:42] apachelogger: you did upload everything to lp right? [15:42] if everything built, yes [15:43] if not it's easy enough to reroll [15:47] Riddell: Council has your email on Launchpad, are you llike, the final boss? [15:48] * Quintasan has virtually no idea how to reach our dear Council [15:48] I'm the guy at the end of the level you have to pass to save the princess. or more likely the person who registered the team [15:48] there's no secret way to contact, just e-mail kubuntu-devel [15:48] if you don't feel comfortable doing that e-mail us all with personal addresses [15:51] Riddell: I'll just post to kubuntu-devel then [15:55] you can also use LP to contact the ~kubuntu-council team [15:56] SteveRiley: is there feedback on the forum on beta 1? or can you ask for some? [16:00] afk for a bit while the script runs [16:12] schedule yourself into a kubuntu meeting! http://www.doodle.com/ep9bqbapvfh4r9aw === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Quantal bugs: http://goo.gl/ESmab | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | apachelogger: SRU plymouth logo & fix ipod support | UDS-R: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-uds | schedule yourself into a kubuntu meeting! http://www.doodle.com/ep9bqbapvfh4r9aw [16:31] Riddell: I would have to organise the travel and accomodation by myself and then I would be reimbursed? Is the hotel the UDS takes place in acceptable? [16:32] Quintasan: well this is all a bit unknown [16:32] I'm wondering if I should register with a travel agent here and then you just book through them [16:32] The reimbursment part or the hotel part? [16:32] the travel part [16:33] the UDS hotel would be the best option but afiestas says it's very expensive and he can see cheaper options [16:33] Oh. Okay, I will send the email to the list then. [16:33] * Quintasan includes the stuff from the UDS sponsorship form [16:33] eek, that reminds me I still need to take care of that [16:34] highvoltage: of which? [16:34] UDS stuff. flights, applying for visa, etc. [16:37] and most important, is it a nice place to take some holiday in before or after [16:38] :) [16:54] Riddell: I wonder how official my mail sounds :d [16:54] very [16:54] Quintasan: what do you mean by mobile devices interface? kubuntu active? [16:56] Riddell: yeah, like certain onscreen keyboards *cough* [16:56] * Quintasan gets uncontrollable cough attack [16:57] Riddell: well for double rooms isn't that expensive I guess [17:18] and most important, is it a nice place to take some holiday in before or after < Can't stress how important that is :P [17:38] apachelogger: ssh ftpubuntu@ftpmaster.kde.org ls -1 /home/ftpubuntu/stable/4.9.1/src/ | sed 's/$.*$-4\.9\.1\.tar\.xz/\1/' |grep -v kde-l10n gives me too many things that need to be backported [17:38] some of them are irrelevant [17:38] like oxygen-icons [17:39] or maybe you just forgot to upload a newer o-i [17:39] yus you did [17:49] apachelogger: I'm not backporting till you fix this stuff [17:56] apachelogger: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197124/ [17:56] is the backport log [17:57] ( batshit crazy huge ) [18:00] Does anyone know when KDE 4.9.1 will be released in the Kubuntu Backport PPA? I am hitting a nasty bug in 4.9.0 that's supposed to be fixed in 4.9.1. Or, alternately, if someone could point me to build instructions, that would work too. [18:09] Riddell: is the doodle local time or UTC? === yofel_ is now known as yofel [18:10] nvm, I should read my mails ^^ [18:12] yofel: UTC I'd say [18:12] pedahzur: no set release time but soon [18:12] just checked, if you didn't explicitely enable time zone support it's UTC [18:13] Riddell: Anything I can do to speed up the process? :) Today, instead of just crashing a lot, my Akonadi mail filter process is crashing pretty much every time I try to use it. :) [18:13] *explicitly [18:13] shadeslayer: does you backport script have support for the modifications that are needed for precise? [18:15] pedahzur: dunno I'm afraid I've not been involved with it, maybe yofel can say when testers will be needed [18:16] more like shadeslayer, as he seems to be doing backport stuff right now [18:17] * micahg wishes he could highlight on words on a per channel basis :( [18:17] got a highlight on backport? ^^ [18:18] indeed :) [18:18] :D [18:33] yofel: nope, I just use backportpackage atm [18:34] its just a for loop that runs backportpackage :P [18:34] k [18:35] fixing exactly the same things over and over again every point release is quite a waste of time though [18:35] 4.9.1 for quantal needs to be fixed a bit first before I go and do backports [18:35] esp. if it's something that sed could easily take care of [18:35] didn't apachelogger fix quantal? [18:35] aye, let's document it a bit properly this time [18:36] yofel: oxygen icons hasn't been updated to say the least [18:36] as well as svgpart [18:36] looks updated to me [18:36] or are you backporting from archive? if yes - why? [18:38] no 4.9.1 in archive, and yes, backporting from archive ... [18:38] * yofel used bzr last time he backported, and left finding the tar to bzr builddeb [18:39] hm .... [18:40] which reminds me [18:40] here's the thing [18:41] svgpart seems to be updated for bzr [18:41] but apachelogger didn't make a upload [18:41] so it looks like he only uploaded half of 4.9.1 [18:42] to the archive yes, but you could just take the rest from ninjas [18:42] [reupload2] Philip Muškovac * 1 * (bump_ver.py kreupload.sh) add stuff [18:43] yeah, will do that tomorrow [18:44] I guess Harald's script failed or sth [18:44] shadeslayer: this is what I used to do the ppa rebuild, could probably be extended for this: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~yofel/+junk/rebuildstuff/files [18:47] * BluesKaj wonders what the hurry is to try 4.9.1 . doubt the changes will be very noticeable , and the risks probly outrank the rewards [18:48] yofel: lets get 4.9.1 completely uploaded to quantal first [18:48] then we can work on backporting [18:48] sure, was just wondering where you got stuck [18:49] BluesKaj: This: https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=304866 and this: https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdepim/repository/revisions/aaaf11099e1538ceea1af37ebdded9017a4af5b0/diff/mailcommon/filter/filteractionrewriteheader.cpp Yeah, really...a one line change is behind my hurry to try 4.9.1. :) [18:49] KDE bug 304866 in Mail Filter Agent "filter agent crashes when trying to filter messages" [Critical,Resolved: fixed] [18:50] shadeslayer, yofel , users are asking about it in #kubuntu and #kde and we have to advise them to wait [18:50] BluesKaj: the delay is that we don't want stuff to go sideways when people upgrade ;) [18:50] sure, but without a few more helping hands I fear they'll have to work [18:51] s/work/wait/ [18:51] yofel meant: "sure, but without a few more helping hands I fear they'll have to wait" [18:51] so its better to stick it out for some more days than to rush out a half baked release [18:51] shadeslayer, right ..I'll keep giving the same advice [18:52] thanks :) [18:54] yofel: did okular searching get fixed ? [18:55] I can't check because my system is broken [18:55] can't trust anything on it, will reinstall precise this weekend [19:02] shadeslayer: works here [19:02] awesome [19:02] * yofel still can't install plasma widgets though :/ [19:04] whee, move to air conditioned room, power outage [19:05] classic bad luck Brian [19:07] yofel: shadeslayer: Anything I can do to help? Is there a build procedure documented I could follow to build and install the new debs? [19:08] pedahzur: the only ones who can help atm need to have upload access to upload half of the missing 4.9.1 sources [19:09] shadeslayer: Oh... [19:09] into quantal that is [19:09] shadeslayer: Gotcha. I'm on Precise. [19:09] although, if you want to fix your bug, you can cherry pick that commit and roll your own packages for precise [19:10] I.e. get raw patch, grab 4.9.0 packaging, apply patch, upload to PPA or use pbuilder to build your own debs [19:11] shadeslayer: OK. Are there docs somewhere to get me started? I've not does this before. :) [19:12] pedahzur: patching is fairly simple if the patch applies cleanly :) [19:12] shadeslayer: only about a dozen 4.9.1 packages didn't get uploaded, I'll finish it [19:13] but, I am in bed, would be better if someone else told you how to fix that :) [19:13] yofel: 'only' [19:13] shadeslayer: Oh, I know that. I've applied patches...I was talking about pulling the packages. Do you mean just pulling the .deb source and building? Or is there something more involved? [19:14] shadeslayer: The patch I'm interested in is just one line. :) [19:14] pedahzur: use dget to download the sources... sec [19:14] K [19:14] shadeslayer: that would be ~12%, which is 'only'... [19:15] I humbly disagree :) [19:16] its low, but its not that low .. [19:17] pedahzur: dget -xu https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports/+files/kdepim_4.9.0-0ubuntu2%7Eprecise1%7Eppa1.dsc [19:17] Nice. Thanks. [19:18] then cd kdepim-4.9.0/debian/patches [19:18] drop the patch in that folder, add the filename to debian/patches/series [19:19] and build using pbuilder which has the Kubuntu backports ppa enabled [19:19] or upload to a ppa which depends on Kubuntu backports ppa [19:19] just using dpkg-buildpackage should be sufficient in this case if no pbuilder is present [19:20] ah [19:20] could be a paint to install though with kdepim :/ [19:20] *pain [19:20] and you have the deps installed :) [19:21] hm [19:21] mplayerthumbs needs FFE? [19:21] yofel, shadeslayer: Thanks. I'll see what I can do. [19:22] great, o-i on the upload list... [19:22] yofel: new source I do believe [19:22] yeah [19:23] I'll leave that to you [19:23] yofel: skip that, will tackle it tomorrow [19:23] * yofel makes a coffee while o-i is being processed [19:24] skip some of them if you feel its too much and I will fix it up tomorrow [19:25] shadeslayer: just clone lp:~apachelogger/kubuntu-dev-tools/kbatch [19:25] and use kbatch [19:25] it contains a list of packages to work on [19:26] * yofel has his own publishing script [19:26] I can't just run a script on everything anyway as I don't have upload rights for a few packages [19:26] everyone has their tools :P [19:29] apachelogger: k will look in another 7 hours [19:29] * shadeslayer snoozes [19:30] yofel: at this point, kubuntu could added whatever they want to support to the supported seed [19:30] we already did for a few things that we maintain in universe [19:30] yofel: ah, so the stuff you're missing now is in core? [19:31] * yofel does wonder why he has no upload rights for perlkde [19:31] * Mamarok will not be at UDS, not sponsored :( [19:32] yofel: perlkde isn't seeded [19:32] ah, good point [19:33] hrm, it's in supported [19:33] * micahg wonders why seeded-in-ubuntu is lying [19:35] shadeslayer, apachelogger: everything except perlkde and mplayerthumbs should be up now [19:38] micahg: it's not lying. the seeds are wrong, perlkde isn't a binary package [19:38] ah, right :) [19:39] s/perlkde/libkdecore4-perl/ in the seeds should do the trick [19:39] debfx meant: "micahg: it's not lying. the seeds are wrong, libkdecore4-perl isn't a binary package" [19:39] yep [19:39] kubotu: nope [19:39] grr, kubotu disable that feature already!!111 [19:42] yofel: I'll upload those [19:42] debfx: mplayerthumbs is a new source [19:42] and thanks [19:43] aha, then it needs a FFe [19:45] yofel++ === cmagina-lunch is now known as cmagina