| bkm | is there any way to get network-manager to start in lubuntu? i'm not really sure what it is, but i have some instructions that apparently work well with network-manager. | 02:16 |
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| kanliot | bkm, network manager should be automatic. | 02:47 |
| bkm | not for me | 02:48 |
| kanliot | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager0.7/#Installation | 02:49 |
| bkm | kanliot: thanks, i will look | 02:50 |
| kanliot | any guesses why you don't have it on lxpanel? | 02:50 |
| bkm | it seems pretty fragile. it seems a problem for people. | 02:51 |
| kanliot | i disagree | 02:51 |
| bkm | well, then what are all these people doing wrong? | 02:51 |
| bkm | i don't have as much trouble with, e. g., `ls`, but ls is perhaps simpler than NetworkManager | 02:52 |
| kanliot | where are you in your problem-solving? | 02:54 |
| bkm | i'm looking at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550776 <- it was set to managed=false. so, maybe setting it to true will do wonders | 02:55 |
| kanliot | any idea why netowrk manager wasn't starting? | 02:58 |
| bkm | no | 02:58 |
| bkm | i don't even know that it wasn't starting | 02:58 |
| kanliot | can you click on it | 02:58 |
| bkm | click? | 02:58 |
| kanliot | should be the network icon on the lower right | 02:59 |
| bkm | i don't see such | 02:59 |
| Unit193 | Click the blank area, that's where it always is for me. :P | 03:00 |
| Unit193 | It's there for me, just can't see the icon. | 03:00 |
| bkm | i see a blank section in the middle of about 40% of the lower `bar` | 03:02 |
| kanliot | should be right of the volume control | 03:02 |
| bkm | not there | 03:03 |
| kanliot | pgrep nm-app -l | 03:03 |
| kanliot | that lists it if it's running | 03:04 |
| bkm | returns nothing | 03:04 |
| kanliot | ok | 03:04 |
| kanliot | run nm-applet | 03:04 |
| bkm | (nm-applet:3632): GConf-WARNING **: Directory `/apps/nm-applet' was not being monitored by GConfClient 0x9408a38 | 03:04 |
| kanliot | can you clikc on it now? | 03:05 |
| bkm | there is no it | 03:05 |
| bkm | i have never seen that icon | 03:05 |
| bkm | panel preferences does not mention it | 03:06 |
| kanliot | did it give any other errors, or is it still running? | 03:06 |
| bkm | bunch of other errors | 03:07 |
| kanliot | it's not in preferences | 03:07 |
| kanliot | so it's running | 03:07 |
| kanliot | ? | 03:07 |
| bkm | not running | 03:07 |
| kanliot | $ lspci | grep -i eth | 03:09 |
| kanliot | try that | 03:09 |
| kanliot | make sure you have a network card | 03:10 |
| bkm | 00:03.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 (rev 0c) | 03:10 |
| bkm | 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 (rev 03) | 03:10 |
| bkm | amazing! it found the onboard! | 03:10 |
| kanliot | sudo service network-manager start | 03:12 |
| kanliot | try that | 03:12 |
| bkm | start: Job is already running: network-manager | 03:13 |
| kanliot | what happened when you tried to start nm-applet? | 03:14 |
| bkm | bunch of error messages terminating in (nm-applet:3632): GConf-WARNING **: Directory `/apps/nm-applet' was not being monitored by GConfClient 0x9408a38 | 03:15 |
| kanliot | then what | 03:15 |
| bkm | i think it just hung. did not return to a prompt | 03:16 |
| kanliot | see if you can click on it in the panel | 03:16 |
| bkm | there is nothing in the panel to click on | 03:17 |
| kanliot | is it still hung? | 03:18 |
| bkm | i ^C it some time ago | 03:19 |
| kanliot | well don't do that | 03:19 |
| kanliot | you're killing it | 03:19 |
| bkm | i rebooted and i see it with the wrong icon. it seems to be network manager, however | 03:35 |
| bkm | thanks, kanliot. i hate to reboot, but maybe i had something evil that was not making itself obvious | 03:35 |
| kanliot | yah gl man | 03:36 |
| bkm | that instruction about setting managed=true may have been the one. it did say to reboot. | 03:37 |
| bkm | i wonder what set managed=false... | 03:37 |
| kanliot | if it happens again, file a bug | 03:38 |
| bkm | couldn't really claim that my system is fresh. i may have installed something half-baked along the way. | 03:38 |
| bkm | can anyone try a worldcat.org link from the lubuntu version of chromium? i can see the entire page with firefox, but not chromium. | 07:01 |
| bike | hey. i get a "not authorized" when i try to reboot lubuntu, any clues? | 11:32 |
| ActionParsnip | try: sudo reboot | 11:43 |
| bike | i know that works, but its not very userfriendly , atleast not since this is my sisters laptop | 11:45 |
| ActionParsnip | are there bugs reported? | 11:48 |
| bike | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2014361 and some on suspend/hibernate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/961122 | 11:50 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 961122 in upower (Ubuntu) "lubuntu-logout is "not authorized" to suspend or hibernate" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 11:50 |
| ActionParsnip | then its a known issue, subscribe to the bug and you can see how it progresses, also add that you are affected | 11:50 |
| bike | hrm , it works in debian. cant be that hard to fix | 11:52 |
| econdudeawesome | hwody all. Anyone know how to get openbox working with dual screens if building up from ubuntu minimal? | 13:40 |
| econdudeawesome | I ask because I figure the process would be similar for lubuntu... | 13:40 |
| wxl | hey folks, did we get rid of software sources in quantal? is the only way to access it in synaptic? | 18:03 |
| wxl | alternately, does anyone know of a command (read: not gui, not synaptic) to add a downloaded gpg key for a ppa? (yes, i know about the add-apt-repository command) | 18:26 |
| holstein | wxl: can you do it in synaptic? | 18:28 |
| holstein | wxl: lol... just read.. but, synaptic does that right? | 18:28 |
| wxl | should yes | 18:28 |
| wxl | basically i'm trying to figure out some solution | 18:28 |
| wxl | for me add-apt is broken and so is synaptic | 18:28 |
| holstein | yeah... im not coming up with anything off my hat | 18:28 |
| wxl | i'm looking at the code of add-apt now not knowing crap about python | 18:29 |
| Unit193 | sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 313D312748A22A95; gpg --export --armor 313D312748A22A95 | sudo apt-key add - | 18:37 |
| Unit193 | wxl: That? Or something else? | 18:37 |
| wxl | that's the one | 18:37 |
| wxl | i was just getting to the part in softwareproperties.py where that was starting to make sense XD | 18:38 |
| wxl | one ? tho Unit193: if i'm trying to get this http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x91732A319F3E38EEEDBDF51AC8BEB4C320E36F2F&op=index how do i refer to it? as 1024R/20E36F2F where you have 313D312748A22A95? | 18:40 |
| Unit193 | You can always apt-get update to see what key is missing. | 18:43 |
| wxl | oh! cool | 18:44 |
| wxl | you're today's hero | 18:44 |
| wxl | i'm trying to track down two bugs and meanwhile propose a reasonable workaround | 18:44 |
| Unit193 | I added an unreasonable one to a bug report, I used it. | 18:45 |
| wxl | do tell | 18:46 |
| nightcrawler786 | when I try to remove firefox lubuntu removes it but then downloads epiphany and vice versa | 18:46 |
| nightcrawler786 | I want to remove the web browsers, how can I do that | 18:46 |
| holstein | nightcrawler786: i would search in the package manger of your choice, maybe synaptic, and just remove them | 18:47 |
| Unit193 | nightcrawler786: Try removing them both in the same command, sudo apt-get purge epiphany firefox (think there were more you had to do...) | 18:47 |
| wxl | although my guess is some metapackage probably requires a browser, no? | 18:47 |
| wxl | oh yikes | 18:48 |
| wxl | is that in quantal? | 18:48 |
| wxl | oops | 18:49 |
| nightcrawler786 | Unit193, that worked :) | 18:49 |
| nightcrawler786 | Unit193, didn't think I could remove a package that wasn't installed | 18:49 |
| Unit193 | nightcrawler786: You can't exactly, but then it won't install. | 18:50 |
| nightcrawler786 | Unit193, yeah makes sense | 18:50 |
| silverarrow | hi | 18:52 |
| silverarrow | I have had troubles with gome mplayer and gecko on powerpc, and now it suddenly works!!?? | 18:53 |
| silverarrow | I can stream TV on powerpc | 18:53 |
| silverarrow | hi margo | 18:58 |
| silverarrow | jeg ødela oppsettet | 19:45 |
| silverarrow | anyone of the clever guys here? | 21:01 |
| holstein | clever ppc users? | 21:02 |
| silverarrow | yes like youi | 21:02 |
| silverarrow | ;- ) | 21:02 |
| silverarrow | any lubuntu user really | 21:02 |
| silverarrow | I have made something work, but I ruined it | 21:03 |
| silverarrow | holstein, do you have four minutes? | 21:03 |
| holstein | sure.. whats up? | 21:03 |
| silverarrow | I have worked with gnome mplayer and gecko to stream TV and different videos on the web | 21:03 |
| silverarrow | not a chance on ppc | 21:03 |
| silverarrow | for some reason | 21:04 |
| silverarrow | I tried all the mplayers | 21:04 |
| silverarrow | I did a clean install to get default setup even | 21:04 |
| silverarrow | a couple of weeks ago I installed totem | 21:04 |
| silverarrow | didn`t work any better | 21:04 |
| silverarrow | Totem ended up as default player, but I could double finger click in the totem window and open in gnome mplayer | 21:05 |
| silverarrow | suddenly I tried this today and it streamed the local TV channel | 21:05 |
| holstein | interesting | 21:05 |
| silverarrow | it is not ppc that is imossible I think | 21:06 |
| silverarrow | it is some kind of missing lib or app or something | 21:06 |
| holstein | nothing is impossible... its just not well supported anymore | 21:06 |
| silverarrow | I managed to ruin it though | 21:06 |
| holstein | and when it isnt working, theres like 4 people worldwide who would care or notice | 21:06 |
| silverarrow | I was rather happy with the tv functions, and tried making gnome mplayer default player | 21:07 |
| silverarrow | well, never mine those | 21:07 |
| silverarrow | mind* | 21:07 |
| silverarrow | however, I know a fix is there | 21:08 |
| silverarrow | and I know several who would be interested in the fix | 21:09 |
| silverarrow | if I only could figure out why it suddenly streamed fine | 21:09 |
| holstein | maybe its your connection? | 21:09 |
| silverarrow | getting mplayer and gecko to stream well on ppc would be great | 21:09 |
| silverarrow | no, I doubt it , the gnome mplayer streams fine on regular pc | 21:10 |
| silverarrow | however, connection matters of course | 21:10 |
| silverarrow | it was like gnome mplayer just cut off, and didn`t even attempt to load the site | 21:11 |
| silverarrow | stream I mean | 21:11 |
| holstein | but it was working fine one time? | 21:11 |
| holstein | did you upgrade? | 21:11 |
| silverarrow | well, until I got the idea to make gnome mplayer defaul player in browser again | 21:12 |
| silverarrow | no | 21:12 |
| silverarrow | well, I have the 1.0.6 player | 21:12 |
| silverarrow | but it didn`t work any different than 1.0.5 really | 21:12 |
| silverarrow | it was after I installed totem, and not sure what made it work | 21:12 |
| holstein | silverarrow: i dont think the "default" player thing has anything to do with it | 21:13 |
| silverarrow | it is a small hickup in pps is that needs attention | 21:13 |
| silverarrow | no, but when I removed totem package it got messed up again | 21:13 |
| silverarrow | gnome mplayer doesn`t even show in browser anymore | 21:13 |
| holstein | you can always look at the depends for totem | 21:14 |
| holstein | reinstall it and check | 21:14 |
| holstein | get it working and *dont* do anything... *ever* | 21:15 |
| silverarrow | lol | 21:15 |
| silverarrow | lubuntu has a secret life of its` own | 21:16 |
| silverarrow | not even the packagers or devs and a clue | 21:16 |
| holstein | especially the PPC stuff | 21:17 |
| holstein | do we know who is packaging the ppc stuff? | 21:17 |
| silverarrow | not sure | 21:18 |
| silverarrow | there are at least two guys on the ubuntu team | 21:18 |
| silverarrow | I even talked to one of them | 21:19 |
| silverarrow | on the testing channel | 21:19 |
| silverarrow | though he didn`t have much patience for mplayer issues | 21:19 |
| holstein | depends on how you ask... you can always offer to learn and try and help | 21:34 |
| silverarrow | yeah, probably | 21:37 |
| silverarrow | I probably made the explanation too detailed | 21:38 |
| holstein | well, they are just repackaging apps | 21:38 |
| silverarrow | or really, he didn`t worke much with mplayer | 21:38 |
| holstein | mplayer doesnt work with mplayer ppc ;) | 21:38 |
| silverarrow | it just might do !! | 21:39 |
| silverarrow | it really should you know | 21:39 |
| silverarrow | it is soooo close to working | 21:39 |
| silverarrow | and I had it there for a while until I started messing with it | 21:40 |
| silverarrow | i think the issue can be identifications of codecs | 21:40 |
| bkm | thank you to whoever made chromium work with lubuntu. i wish it would work with more web sites, but it's nice that it doesn't immediately run the machine out of memory as with about all other alternatives | 23:46 |
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