[02:16] is there any way to get network-manager to start in lubuntu? i'm not really sure what it is, but i have some instructions that apparently work well with network-manager. [02:47] bkm, network manager should be automatic. [02:48] not for me [02:49] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/NetworkManager0.7/#Installation [02:50] kanliot: thanks, i will look [02:50] any guesses why you don't have it on lxpanel? [02:51] it seems pretty fragile. it seems a problem for people. [02:51] i disagree [02:51] well, then what are all these people doing wrong? [02:52] i don't have as much trouble with, e. g., `ls`, but ls is perhaps simpler than NetworkManager [02:54] where are you in your problem-solving? [02:55] i'm looking at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1550776 <- it was set to managed=false. so, maybe setting it to true will do wonders [02:58] any idea why netowrk manager wasn't starting? [02:58] no [02:58] i don't even know that it wasn't starting [02:58] can you click on it [02:58] click? [02:59] should be the network icon on the lower right [02:59] i don't see such [03:00] Click the blank area, that's where it always is for me. :P [03:00] It's there for me, just can't see the icon. [03:02] i see a blank section in the middle of about 40% of the lower `bar` [03:02] should be right of the volume control [03:03] not there [03:03] pgrep nm-app -l [03:04] that lists it if it's running [03:04] returns nothing [03:04] ok [03:04] run nm-applet [03:04] (nm-applet:3632): GConf-WARNING **: Directory `/apps/nm-applet' was not being monitored by GConfClient 0x9408a38 [03:05] can you clikc on it now? [03:05] there is no it [03:05] i have never seen that icon [03:06] panel preferences does not mention it [03:06] did it give any other errors, or is it still running? [03:07] bunch of other errors [03:07] it's not in preferences [03:07] so it's running [03:07] ? [03:07] not running [03:09] $ lspci | grep -i eth [03:09] try that [03:10] make sure you have a network card [03:10] 00:03.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9/0/1 Ethernet Pro 100 (rev 0c) [03:10] 06:00.0 Ethernet controller: Xircom Cardbus Ethernet 10/100 (rev 03) [03:10] amazing! it found the onboard! [03:12] sudo service network-manager start [03:12] try that [03:13] start: Job is already running: network-manager [03:14] what happened when you tried to start nm-applet? [03:15] bunch of error messages terminating in (nm-applet:3632): GConf-WARNING **: Directory `/apps/nm-applet' was not being monitored by GConfClient 0x9408a38 [03:15] then what [03:16] i think it just hung. did not return to a prompt [03:16] see if you can click on it in the panel [03:17] there is nothing in the panel to click on [03:18] is it still hung? [03:19] i ^C it some time ago [03:19] well don't do that [03:19] you're killing it [03:35] i rebooted and i see it with the wrong icon. it seems to be network manager, however [03:35] thanks, kanliot. i hate to reboot, but maybe i had something evil that was not making itself obvious [03:36] yah gl man [03:37] that instruction about setting managed=true may have been the one. it did say to reboot. [03:37] i wonder what set managed=false... [03:38] if it happens again, file a bug [03:38] couldn't really claim that my system is fresh. i may have installed something half-baked along the way. [07:01] can anyone try a worldcat.org link from the lubuntu version of chromium? i can see the entire page with firefox, but not chromium. [11:32] hey. i get a "not authorized" when i try to reboot lubuntu, any clues? [11:43] try: sudo reboot [11:45] i know that works, but its not very userfriendly , atleast not since this is my sisters laptop [11:48] are there bugs reported? [11:50] http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2014361 and some on suspend/hibernate https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lubuntu-default-settings/+bug/961122 [11:50] Launchpad bug 961122 in upower (Ubuntu) "lubuntu-logout is "not authorized" to suspend or hibernate" [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:50] then its a known issue, subscribe to the bug and you can see how it progresses, also add that you are affected [11:52] hrm , it works in debian. cant be that hard to fix [13:40] hwody all. Anyone know how to get openbox working with dual screens if building up from ubuntu minimal? [13:40] I ask because I figure the process would be similar for lubuntu... [18:03] hey folks, did we get rid of software sources in quantal? is the only way to access it in synaptic? [18:26] alternately, does anyone know of a command (read: not gui, not synaptic) to add a downloaded gpg key for a ppa? (yes, i know about the add-apt-repository command) [18:28] wxl: can you do it in synaptic? [18:28] wxl: lol... just read.. but, synaptic does that right? [18:28] should yes [18:28] basically i'm trying to figure out some solution [18:28] for me add-apt is broken and so is synaptic [18:28] yeah... im not coming up with anything off my hat [18:29] i'm looking at the code of add-apt now not knowing crap about python [18:37] sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 313D312748A22A95; gpg --export --armor 313D312748A22A95 | sudo apt-key add - [18:37] wxl: That? Or something else? [18:37] that's the one [18:38] i was just getting to the part in softwareproperties.py where that was starting to make sense XD [18:40] one ? tho Unit193: if i'm trying to get this http://keyserver.ubuntu.com:11371/pks/lookup?search=0x91732A319F3E38EEEDBDF51AC8BEB4C320E36F2F&op=index how do i refer to it? as 1024R/20E36F2F where you have 313D312748A22A95? [18:43] You can always apt-get update to see what key is missing. [18:44] oh! cool [18:44] you're today's hero [18:44] i'm trying to track down two bugs and meanwhile propose a reasonable workaround [18:45] I added an unreasonable one to a bug report, I used it. [18:46] do tell [18:46] when I try to remove firefox lubuntu removes it but then downloads epiphany and vice versa [18:46] I want to remove the web browsers, how can I do that [18:47] nightcrawler786: i would search in the package manger of your choice, maybe synaptic, and just remove them [18:47] nightcrawler786: Try removing them both in the same command, sudo apt-get purge epiphany firefox (think there were more you had to do...) [18:47] although my guess is some metapackage probably requires a browser, no? [18:48] oh yikes [18:48] is that in quantal? [18:49] oops [18:49] Unit193, that worked :) [18:49] Unit193, didn't think I could remove a package that wasn't installed [18:50] nightcrawler786: You can't exactly, but then it won't install. [18:50] Unit193, yeah makes sense [18:52] hi [18:53] I have had troubles with gome mplayer and gecko on powerpc, and now it suddenly works!!?? [18:53] I can stream TV on powerpc [18:58] hi margo [19:45] jeg ødela oppsettet [21:01] anyone of the clever guys here? [21:02] clever ppc users? [21:02] yes like youi [21:02] ;- ) [21:02] any lubuntu user really [21:03] I have made something work, but I ruined it [21:03] holstein, do you have four minutes? [21:03] sure.. whats up? [21:03] I have worked with gnome mplayer and gecko to stream TV and different videos on the web [21:03] not a chance on ppc [21:04] for some reason [21:04] I tried all the mplayers [21:04] I did a clean install to get default setup even [21:04] a couple of weeks ago I installed totem [21:04] didn`t work any better [21:05] Totem ended up as default player, but I could double finger click in the totem window and open in gnome mplayer [21:05] suddenly I tried this today and it streamed the local TV channel [21:05] interesting [21:06] it is not ppc that is imossible I think [21:06] it is some kind of missing lib or app or something [21:06] nothing is impossible... its just not well supported anymore [21:06] I managed to ruin it though [21:06] and when it isnt working, theres like 4 people worldwide who would care or notice [21:07] I was rather happy with the tv functions, and tried making gnome mplayer default player [21:07] well, never mine those [21:07] mind* [21:08] however, I know a fix is there [21:09] and I know several who would be interested in the fix [21:09] if I only could figure out why it suddenly streamed fine [21:09] maybe its your connection? [21:09] getting mplayer and gecko to stream well on ppc would be great [21:10] no, I doubt it , the gnome mplayer streams fine on regular pc [21:10] however, connection matters of course [21:11] it was like gnome mplayer just cut off, and didn`t even attempt to load the site [21:11] stream I mean [21:11] but it was working fine one time? [21:11] did you upgrade? [21:12] well, until I got the idea to make gnome mplayer defaul player in browser again [21:12] no [21:12] well, I have the 1.0.6 player [21:12] but it didn`t work any different than 1.0.5 really [21:12] it was after I installed totem, and not sure what made it work [21:13] silverarrow: i dont think the "default" player thing has anything to do with it [21:13] it is a small hickup in pps is that needs attention [21:13] no, but when I removed totem package it got messed up again [21:13] gnome mplayer doesn`t even show in browser anymore [21:14] you can always look at the depends for totem [21:14] reinstall it and check [21:15] get it working and *dont* do anything... *ever* [21:15] lol [21:16] lubuntu has a secret life of its` own [21:16] not even the packagers or devs and a clue [21:17] especially the PPC stuff [21:17] do we know who is packaging the ppc stuff? [21:18] not sure [21:18] there are at least two guys on the ubuntu team [21:19] I even talked to one of them [21:19] on the testing channel [21:19] though he didn`t have much patience for mplayer issues [21:34] depends on how you ask... you can always offer to learn and try and help [21:37] yeah, probably [21:38] I probably made the explanation too detailed [21:38] well, they are just repackaging apps [21:38] or really, he didn`t worke much with mplayer [21:38] mplayer doesnt work with mplayer ppc ;) [21:39] it just might do !! [21:39] it really should you know [21:39] it is soooo close to working [21:40] and I had it there for a while until I started messing with it [21:40] i think the issue can be identifications of codecs [23:46] thank you to whoever made chromium work with lubuntu. i wish it would work with more web sites, but it's nice that it doesn't immediately run the machine out of memory as with about all other alternatives