| ibeardslee | quantal unity gui in KVM has some degree of less than desirable | 00:46 |
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| * ibeardslee wonders what it would take to maintain Sunbird with the updates going into the Lightning plugin | 01:19 | |
| ajmitch | probably more than you'd like | 01:23 |
| ibeardslee | yeah .. a quick look looks like it won't be simple | 01:24 |
| ibeardslee | maybe the trick would be just to nag Mozilla about lightning being treated as a component rather than an extension | 01:25 |
| ajmitch | given their lack of ongoing thunderbird development, don't get your hopes up | 01:28 |
| ibeardslee | so is thunderbird going to be dropped as the default mail client in Ubuntu? | 01:30 |
| * ajmitch shrugs | 01:33 | |
| * ibeardslee wishes he had the $$ to throw at something (well many things) and say 'this needs to be sorted' | 01:35 | |
| ajmitch | throwing money at things without adequate direction can lead to all sorts of issues :) | 01:36 |
| ibeardslee | true, but you gotta ask about the sanity of throwing Thunderbird as an Evolution replacement, without actually finishing the job. | 01:37 |
| * ibeardslee is just a bit whiny while trying to build an sane default desktop build for staff. | 01:39 | |
| chilts | is there such a thing as a standard desktop inside Catalyst? | 01:39 |
| ibeardslee | ish. When people start they have a machine built for them .. that's the default. | 01:40 |
| ibeardslee | a lot of people rebuild/reinstall, but there are more and more people that aren't the hacker type and just want to be able to work | 01:41 |
| ibeardslee | plus, our process of creating our own 'standard' desktop with easy to use and configure setups means that we have a knowledge base for doing the same elsewhere. | 01:41 |
| chilts | true | 01:42 |
| chilts | I guess as the company gets larger with more non-technical people, it makes sense | 01:42 |
| chilts | even with technical people too I suppose | 01:42 |
| chilts | morning | 19:55 |
| ibeardslee | morning | 19:56 |
| ojwb | morning | 20:00 |
| chilts | and what a lovely one it is too | 20:44 |
| chilts | shame I'm in a "team building" exercise for the next 4 hours | 20:45 |
| chilts | at least it's chargeable :) | 20:45 |
| ojwb | not an outdoor team building exercise I take it? | 20:50 |
| ajmitch | morning | 20:55 |
| chilts | ojwb: yeah, indoors | 20:59 |
| chilts | in a small room, lots of people, getting hotter | 20:59 |
| thumper | morning | 21:12 |
| kcj | Morning. | 21:35 |
| ajmitch | fmarier: for some reason I had someone emailing me about fcheck & the deprecation warning you fixed several months ago | 23:40 |
| ajmitch | I'm guessing that it's not really a important bug to fix in 12.04 | 23:40 |
| fmarier | ajmitch: the one i put in my PPA? | 23:40 |
| ajmitch | I synced fcheck from debian a long time ago, I can't see anywhere that'd list me as maintainer :) | 23:41 |
| ajmitch | but the version in precise still throws that deprecation warning, I think | 23:41 |
| fmarier | yeah | 23:42 |
| fmarier | it's one of those annoying problems where technically it's just a warning and doesn't break anything | 23:42 |
| ajmitch | but it's annoying enough to spam you every day? | 23:42 |
| fmarier | but in practice, because of the cron email spammage, it means you pretty much install the package from my PPA or you stop using fcheck | 23:43 |
| ajmitch | so it might be worth fixing for 12.04 still, since it really lowers the value of a warning system that cries wolf all the time | 23:43 |
| fmarier | IIRC, it spams you everytime fcheck runs (every 6-12 hours) | 23:43 |
| fmarier | i think it's worth fixing. given that the fix is just a sync from debian | 23:44 |
| fmarier | that's all I did and it's been working fine for a few months | 23:45 |
| ajmitch | sorry that the bug wasn't spotted before precise was released :) | 23:45 |
| fmarier | looking at my PPA, there's two more packages with cron spam: rkhunter (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/rkhunter/+bug/883324) and popularity-contest (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/popularity-contest/+bug/858697) | 23:50 |
| fmarier | they are not as straightforward as fcheck though because the packages in Debian have more changes | 23:51 |
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