[02:46] <linocisco> hi everyone
[02:47] <linocisco> is there any site where we can dowload tar ball file for all ubuntu packages rather than packages.ubuntu.com which only give us .deb file.?
[02:48] <patdk-lap> hmm, packages.ubuntu.com
[02:49] <patdk-lap> personally, I perfer to just use, apt-get source
[02:49] <lifeless> linocisco: yes, archive.ubuntu.com
[02:49] <lifeless> linocisco: has everything.
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> linocisco: Look over in the right sidebar - it has the original tarball, dsc, and diff.
[02:51] <tonyyarusso> but apt-get source is certainly more convenient.
[02:52] <linocisco> tonyyarusso, lifeless, patdk-lap , Dear all, thanks for your input. As I have internet at work only on windows machine as office standard, I would like to take all necessary ubuntu packages and copy to flash drive and install on my home ubuntu test server which has no internet
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> linocisco: Have you seen the apt-on-cd project?
[02:54] <linocisco> tonyyarusso, yes. to do so, I need on ubuntu machine at least.  But I have only windows machine at work. No other OS is allowed here.
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> linocisco: Trying to manually download dependencies would be a giant pain.  I'd suggest firing up a virtual machine in VBox or something with Ubuntu to run that.
[02:55] <tonyyarusso> Also, get a better job.
[02:56] <linocisco> tonyyarusso, ok. another thing is that we use NOvell GRoupwise at worik. That is only compatiable with windows's Novell Remote Groupwise. I tried with ubuntu. but in vain
[02:57] <tonyyarusso> How are the '90s, btw?  :P
[02:58] <tonyyarusso> Evolution has a groupwise connector, supposedly
[03:02] <linocisco> http://www.brighttalk.com/webcast/6793/54727 is cool?
[05:03] <Kentos> hey guys, question quick, i've set up some raid arrays, and was wondering if i have one hardware raid and another configured through software raid, do I partition the boot array as an autconfig, flagged for boot, and then for the second array (which i intend to set up through software on ubuntu) configure it normally but select a sub-root mount directory?
[05:04] <Kentos> sub-root might not be discribing it properly, but mounting it say, in the /usr directory would be a viable option if its not the boot partitions
[05:31] <Assid> err whats a suggested virtualization environment on ubuntu-server?
[05:31] <lifeless> kvm, or openstack.
[05:31] <lifeless> depending on the scale you need
[05:32] <Assid> 2-5 vm's
[05:33] <Assid> i used to mostly use openvz .. but thats not really "officially supported"
[05:33] <Assid> however, it used to be the best of the lot for me
[05:37] <Assid> lifeless: can you help me get started on this?
[05:37] <Assid> what kernel etc do i need to kvm
[05:37] <lifeless> any Ubuntu kernel
[05:38] <Assid> 3.2.0-30-generic  would do ?
[05:39] <Assid> there really should be a ncurses based app to manage the vms
[05:39] <lifeless> Assid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM
[05:40] <Assid> yeah im reding this : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Installation#Installation_of_KVM
[05:42] <Assid> err
[05:43] <Assid> lifeless: need some help in the networking section..i already have a bond setup.. now its asking me to bridge
[05:44] <Assid> so do o i bridge my bond ?
[05:48] <lifeless> depends on what you're doing, but if you need to connect the VM network to the outside world, a bridge is the usual answer.
[05:49] <Assid> the server itself has a bond setup..
[05:50] <Assid> so i created a new bridge. and i setup the bond to be part of the bridge
[05:52] <Assid> okay that seems to work.. the server is reaacable
[05:52] <Assid> whats virbr0 ?
[06:27] <Assid> err can someone help me with this.. im getting  error: internal error cannot load AppArmor profile 'libvirt-c2c3f180-8795-e662-5a16-40db34c4bcd2' when i try and start a kvm instance
[07:59] <koolhead17> hello all
[08:28] <mp_> good morning
[08:33] <koolhead17> all this while i though mp_ is a bot
[09:03] <balboah> aah. Why isn't my content filter for postfix executing
[09:29] <linocisco> hi
[09:30] <linocisco> how to disable screen saver or sleep mode  on server ?
[10:14] <jamespage> jdstrand, is there a specific reason why we only have iptables 1.4.12 in quantal?  The changelog entries look a bit screwy and I wanted to check whether I was missing something
[10:18] <linocisco> how to install Keryx on ubuntu server?
[10:18] <linocisco> I tried apt-get install keryx, not ok
[11:15] <orogor> hi
[11:16] <orogor> considering than system-config-lvm is broken , is there any gui left for managing lvm ?
[11:17] <xnox> orogor: gnome disk utility
[11:17] <xnox> orogor: palim (precise and older) something or gnome-disks (quantal)
[11:18] <xnox> orogor: plus command line for lvm is easy: pvs, vgs, lvs for Physical Volume, Volume Group, Logical Volume Status
[11:18] <xnox> and then you really need lvcreate & lvremove to add/remove logical volumes.
[11:20] <orogor> running 12.4 here
[11:21] <orogor> rnunning dist upgrade
[11:26] <orogor> xnox, can t  create lvm with it it seems
[11:26] <orogor> ohhh maybe i can
[12:03] <vanmik> i'm trying to make sendmail work with this manual: http://jonsview.com/how-to-setup-email-services-on-ubuntu-using-postfix-tlssasl-and-dovecot .The problem is when i do 'telnet localhost 25' and then 'ehlo localhost' the only line i get is "250 ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES". Any ideas how to fix that?
[12:51] <zul> good morning
[13:11] <hallyn> pmatulis: hi, could you take a look at serverguide merge request https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/serverguide/serverguide-dns-varlibbind
[13:11] <hallyn> (about the start lxc updates)
[13:23] <pmatulis> hallyn: alright
[13:26] <hallyn> pmatulis: thanks
[13:26] <ninjix> I'm working on a little kvm script for running precise cloud images on my laptop and am looking for a way to manage DNS registration with the dnsmasq daemon I have listening on the kvm virtual bridge
[13:27] <raub> ninjix: So what is biting you?
[13:28] <ninjix> raub: looking for some doc on how to tell dnsmasq to assign DHCP to the kvm and register the dns
[13:29] <ninjix> googling isn't turning up good answers so far this morning, figured I ask in channel
[13:29] <raub> To the KVM or to the vm you built in kvm?
[13:30] <raub> If the latter, there is a way to dump the config for the vm using virsh
[13:30] <ninjix> laptop <---> kvmnet br0 <---> i-kvm0, i-kvm1, i-kvm(n)
[13:31] <ninjix> I want the kvm to be able to find each other by dns dynamically
[13:31] <raub> How many kvm hosts (not vms) do you have then?
[13:31] <ninjix> just my laptop
[13:32] <raub> once you create the vm, you can get the mac addresses using virsh
[13:33] <ninjix> I'm setting this up for clean environment testing and don't always have access to our private openstack
[13:33] <raub> then feed that to dnsmasq, with the vm name
[13:33] <raub> For each vm
[13:33] <ninjix> ah... assign it all ahead of time
[13:34] <raub> That said, if you do not care about the ip given for each vm, just have them configured to send their hostname to dnsmasq
[13:34] <raub> I think that is the default for ubuntu
[13:34] <raub> i.e. nothing to do
[13:35] <jcastro> SpamapS, CFP for SCALE is open, I take it you'd like to redo?
[13:36] <jcastro> SpamapS, I don't want to submit the same talk as last year, so I figure we can just chat about it whenever
[13:36] <ninjix> raub: that was my first inclination but the cloud-image registers itself as "ubuntu" before cloud-init takes configures it
[13:36] <raub> ninjix: in that case, I would get the macs and assign ips for each vm
[13:37] <ninjix> raub: yeah, that way seems like the least complicated
[13:37] <raub> Asa bonus you can number them in a sane way ;)
[13:37] <ninjix> thanks for bouncing the idea around with me
[13:38] <raub> ninjix: Me? I am just here to spread lies ;)
[13:38] <ninjix> ;)
[13:39] <raub> FYI, there are little scripts out there to generate macs for you vm
[13:39] <raub> I like that since I can make them all have the same first half
[13:39] <raub> so I can quickly figure out they are my, say, cloud vms
[13:40] <ninjix> yup, I use those already
[13:41] <Daviey> roaksoax: hey, do we still run maas-import-iso's on precise, weekly?
[13:41] <roaksoax> Daviey: yes
[13:41] <ninjix> everyone seems to go pre-assign networking (amazon, openstack, MAAS, orchestra...)
[13:41] <Daviey> roaksoax: thanks
[13:41] <ninjix> must be a good reason
[13:41] <raub> Makes life easier
[13:41] <raub> including when you have to do monitoring
[13:43] <raub> Or crap like puppet
[13:43] <raub> and, I would imagine, juju
[13:44] <ninjix> me likes juju
[13:52] <zul> hallyn: i think we might need this: http://libvirt.org/git/?p=libvirt.git;a=commit;h=a4fd740561aaf4c48b5fefd6b7a39d9963d1147a
[14:17] <SpamapS> jcastro: yeah I was thinking we might get a little more creative with the submission this time
[14:18] <zul> Daviey: websockify packaged and novnc do you want me to do a FFE and you can review them?
[14:29] <Daviey> zul: ok
[14:34] <hallyn> zul: i'm not sure.  will it even properly detect 'mount -t cgroup cgroup /cgroup'?  i think it might still require the cgroups to be separately mounted under it
[14:34] <zul> hallyn: yeah after second thought i dont think we need it
[14:36] <hallyn> zul: ok, so there's no specific open bug you thought it should address?
[14:36] <zul> hallyn: nope ignore my ramblings in this case :)
[14:37] <zul> hallyn: the rantings of a madman
[14:40]  * koolhead17 pokes zul and hides
[14:46] <hallyn> zul: everyone turns a little mad as release approaches :)
[14:52] <zul> Daviey: for websockify https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1048679 and novnc https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/novnc/+bug/1048676 (websockify is sitting in binary new (just uploaded))
[14:55] <zul> hallyn: um...does this look weird to you? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1196779/
[14:57] <Daviey> zul: otp
[14:57] <zul> Daviey:  ack
[15:11] <hallyn> zul: looking (graphics all effed up, including fonts...)
[15:11] <hallyn> zul: yeah that's messed up
[15:12] <hallyn> zul: what are the perms on the parent dir?
[15:12] <zul> hallyn: rwxr-xr-x
[15:13] <hallyn> zul: hm, no, it's normal
[15:13] <hallyn> zul: only root user can write, and you can't read that file
[15:14] <hallyn> (you read devices.list)
[15:14] <zul> hallyn: but if i do something like http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1196803/
[15:16] <hallyn> zul: that's the wrong way to do it
[15:16] <zul> hallyn: whats the right way?
[15:16] <hallyn> your doing sudo echo' and then piping that into the file (as you)
[15:16] <hallyn> echo wahtever | sudo tee thefile
[15:17] <hallyn> echo 'b *:* rwx' | sudo tee devices.allow
[15:18] <zul> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1196809/
[15:20] <hallyn> zul: jinkeys, could tee be parsing your input?
[15:20] <hallyn> no, wrks here for me
[15:20] <zul> son of a bitch
[15:21] <hallyn> do you have tee aliased?
[15:22] <hallyn> zul: oh, i see
[15:22] <zul> no alias
[15:22] <hallyn> the 'invalid argument' is returned by the file write :)
[15:22] <hallyn> zul: 'b' is bad.  try 'a'
[15:23] <zul> hallyn: whats the difference between b and a?
[15:24] <hallyn> a is all.  b in my mind meant 'both', but it means nothing, hence -EINVAL :)
[15:25] <titaniumNoob_> \msg
[15:26] <zul> hallyn: so is https://github.com/openstack/nova/blob/master/nova/virt/disk/api.py#L160 still valid?
[15:45] <hallyn> zul: hm.  maybe b is supposed to be valid...
[15:50] <hallyn> zul: oh b is block
[15:50] <zul> right thats what i thought
[15:51] <hallyn> zul: does 'b *:* rwm' work for you?  x was wrong
[15:51] <zul> hallyn: yeah
[15:55] <hallyn> zul: sorry :)
[16:11] <Lavvy> Hello guys am a newbei here i have some questions pls
[16:12] <Lavvy> Please doesnt ubuntu cloud have a dashboard, non linux experts can use .
[16:13] <Lavvy> Something like in rackspace
[16:16] <Lavvy> I tested it on amazon today
[16:17] <Lavvy> Please anyone to help?
[16:19] <hggdh> smoser, roaksoax: I am testing the upstream fix for bug 967815 in the QA lab; I will -- being successful -- propose a merge for Precise, and I will also check Quantal for applicability
[16:20] <smoser> hggdh, oh. good. thats nice.
[16:21] <hggdh> smoser: if you are interested, the change is at https://code.launchpad.net/~hggdh2/ubuntu/precise/cobbler/lp-967815
[16:23] <Lavvy> How can i see ubutu public cloud dashboard? Just like in rackspace
[16:23] <smoser> the package is horizon, Lavvy
[16:25] <Lavvy> Ok, do i install it sepratly
[16:25] <smoser> i'm not sure i know what you mean. i dont think its really separable from openstack.
[16:25] <smoser> it requires admin access, which you dont have if you're just a client.
[16:25] <smoser> hm..
[16:25] <smoser> at least i wouldhave thought it did
[16:26] <smoser> but i have limited knowledge here.
[16:27] <Lavvy> Ok thanks smoser
[16:29] <Lavvy> Can ami image be used with the current ubuntu/openstack version
[16:30] <Lavvy> In private cloud
[17:07] <zul> hallyn: ping
[17:11] <koolhead17> Lavvy, kindly check/refer the doc  before asking here
[17:15] <hallyn> zul: .
[17:19] <zul> hallyn: nm...figured it out :)
[17:22] <hallyn> zul: ok
[17:23] <hallyn> terrific :)
[17:34] <wuhaa11> Hi everyone
[17:34] <wuhaa11> anyone know how to combine bandwidth from multiple snmpd servers into one graph in mrtg?
[17:52] <icebourg> anybody here an expert with lvm / raid settings in an ubuntu pre-seed file? Having issues allocating space the way I would like it
[17:55] <hallyn> stgraber: i think the python-lxc api should uppecase states passed into c.wait()
[17:56] <stgraber> hallyn: that sounds like a good idea indeed
[17:58] <hallyn> stgraber: is there a trick to getting 'c.start()' to not crash due to console errors?
[17:59] <hallyn> i though it daemonized by default?
[17:59] <stgraber> it should
[17:59] <zul> smoser/hallyn: lxc-attach isnt going to work
[18:01] <hallyn> stgraber: I'm getting http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197133/ (implying, i think, it's trying to hook up /dev/console?)
[18:02] <stgraber> hallyn: I'm not overriding start() in python, it's just calling start() from the API so in theory you should get the same result when running it from C...
[18:02] <hallyn> stgraber: it works with 'lxc-start -n C2", but i haven't tried with the C api
[18:03] <hallyn> hm.  very curious
[18:03] <hallyn> i just didn't want ot lie in my little example in the server guide :)
[18:06] <xnox> icebourg: i am listening?!
[18:07] <stgraber> hallyn: are you running an up to date quantal system or something weirder than that?
[18:08] <stgraber> hallyn: I just tried starting a container here and it seems to be working fine
[18:10] <stgraber> hallyn: https://github.com/lxc/lxc/pull/2
[18:10] <stgraber> hallyn: try processing it with the command line to avoid the merge commit (git pull git://github.com/stgraber/lxc.git && git push)
[18:14] <smoser> stgraber, does it seem reasonable to you that /etc/init/iscsi-network-interface.conf (http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197158/) needs to call /etc/network/if-up.d/000resolvconf ?
[18:16] <stgraber> smoser: no, that seems a bit wrong
[18:17] <stgraber> smoser: whatever configures the network interface, in this case, I'm assuming initramfs-tools, should be creating the matching entry in /run/resolvconf/interface/
[18:17] <stgraber> smoser: you may want to look at how we're doing this in casper (with a similar networked root kind of case)
[18:18] <smoser> stgraber, if i did create that in the initramfs, would resolvconf in the real root dtrt ?
[18:18] <smoser> ie, would it handle already existing data there?
[18:19] <stgraber> smoser: I believe it does, at least I can't remember having to do any extra hack when doing a similar thing in casper
[18:19] <smoser> hm..
[18:19] <smoser> this would be generic change in initramfs-tools
[18:20] <stgraber> smoser: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197168/ is the code we have in casper
[18:20] <smoser> as openiscsi just uses 'configure_networking' from initramfs /usr/share/initramfs-tools/scripts/functions
[18:21] <smoser> where did that come from ?
[18:21] <smoser> your paste
[18:21] <rtdos> one more question (2 parts): does ubuntu server come with sdl / opengl installed ? if not how do i install the sdl / opengl libraries ? namely the development libraries ?
[18:21] <stgraber> smoser: casper, scripts/casper-bottom/23networking
[18:21] <stgraber> smoser: I don't believe configure_networking actually configures /etc/resolv.conf
[18:21] <smoser> right. it does not.
[18:21] <stgraber> smoser: that's why we have the extra code in casper to deal with that
[18:22] <smoser> well, i'd suggest that *that* code was wrong.
[18:22] <smoser> you should have made initramfs configure_networking pre-populate /run/resolvconf/interface
[18:22] <stgraber> well, there are cases where you may not want configure_networking to touch the disk
[18:22] <smoser> (at least thats what your'e telling me)
[18:22] <smoser>  /run not disk
[18:22] <stgraber> right, s/disk/anything but the kernel interfaces/ :)
[18:23] <stgraber> for example in LTSP we have ipconfig run but we don't want it to configure the DNS as we'll then spawn udhcp which will do it
[18:23] <smoser> that seems liek not the right solutoin to me
[18:23] <smoser> to expect every single user of 'configure_networking' to have to implement resolvconf support
[18:23] <stgraber> adding an extra configure_resolving would work
[18:23] <stgraber> and then have people call that one if they want
[18:23] <smoser> still seems wrong
[18:24] <smoser> what is the case where you do not want resolvconf to work?
[18:24] <stgraber> I can't think of a case where you don't want resolvconf to work, but there are cases where you don't want ipconfig to configure resolvocnf
[18:24] <stgraber> basically any case where you'll then spawn a real dhcp client
[18:25] <stgraber> these clients could try and figure out what interface file ipconfig modified and remove it, but that's also a bit wrong
[18:25] <smoser> true
[18:26] <smoser> stbut actaully...
[18:26] <smoser> i think you've convinced me that i need this code in the rootfs
[18:26] <smoser> as i cannot / should not assume that /root/etc/resolv.conf is editable
[18:27] <smoser> but obvioyusly need to write it if there is no resolvconf
[18:29] <stgraber> I'm not sure I'm seeing why this would be better to have on the rootfs than in the initramfs as both have access to the ipconfig output and /run
[18:29] <smoser> because in the initramfs i cannot write to /etc/resolv.conf
[18:30] <smoser> post initramfs / becomes mounted RW so i can
[18:30] <smoser> (note, that post initramfs, you do have access to the ipconfig output in /run)
[18:30] <stgraber> hmm, right, I guess in the other cases we had the initramfs mount / read/write already so it wasn't a problem that / would be ro
[18:31] <hallyn> stgraber: oh, actually feh, maybe i have a test lxc from a friday test.
[18:32] <stgraber> smoser: not sure if you already did it, but might be worth checking that you don't have any remaining reference to /tmp/net-* as quantal's initramfs now moved it to /run/ (I already fixed a bunch of these)
[18:32] <stgraber> hallyn: I really need to setup automated builds from the staging tree (without any debian/local overrides) so we can easily test that stuff :)
[18:33] <smoser> stgraber, i stumbled on https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/klibc/+bug/1047722
[18:33] <smoser> in precise this is busted.
[18:34] <hallyn> stgraber: (pushed github.com/stgraber/lxc master to lxc/lxc staging)
[18:34] <hallyn> stgraber: hm, maybe we can combine UTAH with juju for that
[18:34] <hallyn> i need to get lxc-test running under UTAH - hopefully this week.  so should all be easy as pie :)
[18:35] <stgraber> hallyn: well, automated builds I can get LP to do with a build recipe. I already have them running for the SF tree. Just need to change them to point to github and cleanup the packaging
[18:35] <stgraber> but yeah, tests should then be triggered with utah
[18:35] <hallyn> stgraber: care to do a quick review of the updates from lp:serverguide .. https://code.launchpad.net/~serge-hallyn/serverguide/serverguide-q-lxc ?
[18:35] <hallyn> stgraber: and provisioned with juju :)
[18:35] <stgraber> hallyn: can you take a minute to look at the two last patches from Dwight Engen? they are for config_cb and some extra APPARMOR ifdef
[18:36] <stgraber> so not things I'm confident in reviewing and commiting myself :)
[18:36] <hallyn> stgraber: can you push them to a temp branch on github?  (i deleted the emails)
[18:36] <stgraber> hallyn: sure
[18:37] <LinuxAdmin> hi guys
[18:37] <smoser> hm.. i had dealt with writable /etc/resolv.conf once before at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/isc-dhcp/+bug/857524 and it seems that might have regressed.
[18:38] <LinuxAdmin> I've recently installed ubuntu server 12.04 and configured automatic security updates
[18:38] <stgraber> hallyn: https://github.com/stgraber/lxc/tree/for-review
[18:38] <stgraber> hallyn: if they look good, just pull them directly to staging
[18:39] <LinuxAdmin> after updates were installed I could no more start the server, it starts in grub rescue console
[18:39] <hallyn> stgraber: will do, thx
[18:39] <LinuxAdmin> I'm trying to reinstall grub but I'm getting no luck
[18:39] <LinuxAdmin> is this a bug?
[18:40] <LinuxAdmin> is it normal that updates affect grub?
[18:40] <smoser> mdeslaur, ping
[18:40] <mdeslaur> smoser: yes?
[18:40] <hallyn> first one certainly looks good
[18:41] <smoser> i'm looking at http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/isc-dhcp/quantal/revision/56
[18:42] <LinuxAdmin> I reinstalled the server and restarted it before I made any upgrades and I could restart
[18:42] <smoser> and not understanding how you did not regress http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/quantal/isc-dhcp/quantal/revision/36
[18:42] <LinuxAdmin> after the updates get installed, I cannot boot any more
[18:43] <smoser> is there some reason now that we do not have to wait for /etc/resolv.conf to be writable ?
[18:43] <LinuxAdmin> so, for sure the problem is created after kernel updates
[18:43] <smoser> mdeslaur, ^
[18:44] <mdeslaur> smoser: one sec, I'm trying to figure out why the auto-importer turned by 2-line package change into that gigantic merge
[18:44] <smoser> yeah, that was annoying :)
[18:45] <LinuxAdmin> I'm tempted to not configure automatic security updates but I think it's not the way to deal with that, because I will not update important security problems
[18:45] <LinuxAdmin> have someone experienced this?
[18:50] <mdeslaur> smoser: looks like stgraber 's merge to 4.2.4 regressed that: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/isc-dhcp/4.2.4-1ubuntu1
[18:50] <mdeslaur> stgraber: was that an oversight, or was there a reason?
[18:53] <hallyn> stgraber: after cleaning up my pkgs c.start() works fine :)  sorry.  i guess this was actually while we were playing iwth the reaper
[18:54] <rtdos> ok lost sudo capability, am getting weird messages when i try to use sudo. how can i fix this without logging in as root?
[18:55] <hallyn> commits should be pushed (with my ack) to lxc/lxc #staging
[18:55] <hallyn> biab
[18:57] <stgraber> mdeslaur: ? was there anything related to iscsi in there?
[18:57] <smoser> mdeslaur, so why did you get blamed for it?
[18:57] <mdeslaur> smoser: because UDD doesn't actually work :)
[18:58] <mdeslaur> smoser: the auto-importer failed to import a bunch of uploads
[18:58] <smoser> suck.
[18:59] <mdeslaur> stgraber: isc-dhcp used to wait for /etc/resolv.conf to be writable, it was an ubuntu-specific delta, and that got dropped when you merged to 4.2.4...could you take a look?
[19:00] <smoser> hm.. i'm missing something.
[19:00] <stgraber> mdeslaur: ok, so completely unrelated to smoser's problem (dhclient doesn't run in his case)
[19:01] <smoser> well, its not completely unrelated.
[19:03] <mdeslaur> stgraber: I'm just responding to his ping about that missing delta, I didn't read scrollback
[19:03] <smoser> stgraber, it would seem that you regressed the non-resolvconf case
[19:03] <smoser> but i admit that i may be missing something here.
[19:04] <smoser> /sbin/dhclient-script used to wait to make sure /etc/resolv.conf was writable before calling scripts in /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d
[19:04] <stgraber> smoser, mdeslaur: ok, putting on my list of stuff to look at
[19:05] <smoser> i only got here because i was trying to think of how to update this in the iscsi root case.
[19:05] <smoser> and clearly you need to wiait for rw root.
[19:05] <smoser> hm..
[19:05] <smoser> wow.
[19:06] <smoser> this is really a mess.
[19:06] <smoser> wait. no, its not so bad.
[19:06] <smoser> but i do think its regressed now.
[19:09] <stgraber> yeah, seems likely that it regressed when merging the ton of changes done on Debian's side. I'd have to look at it and figure out if just re-introducing it is enough.
[19:09] <stgraber> keeping in mind that we shouldn't wait when using resolvconf as otherwise we may well end up waiting indefinitely
[19:09] <stgraber> anyway, I have other isc-dhcp stuff to do this week, so I just added this one to the list
[19:10] <rtdos> ok lost sudo capability, am getting weird messages when i try to use sudo. how can i fix this without logging in as root?
[19:22] <rtdos> i get this error message when using sudo: http://pastebin.com/tqT1ysPF
[19:23] <sazawal> Any help for configuring gmail account in thunderbird?
[19:25] <patdk-wk> sazawal, login to google mail, click setup email for thunderbird?
[19:26] <sazawal> patdk-lap, I have done whatever was given in google and mozilla pages. Still couldnt get it working :(
[19:27] <sazawal> patdk-lap, it is showing Unable to connect to IMAP server. You may have exceeded the maximum number of connections to this server
[19:28] <rtdos> i get this error message when using sudo: http://pastebin.com/tqT1ysPF
[19:41] <guntbert> rtdos: does http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo help?
[21:18] <leojrfs> do anyone here run ubuntu server in a flash drive?
[21:26] <Lavvy> Hello we need a good ubuntu expert that can help us out (on a commercial basis), please you could you pm me.