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| mvo | jibel: hi, I was looking at the adt output and something looks a bit suspicious http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196352/ - are you aware of this? in the software-center ouptut | 09:44 |
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| jibel | mvo, Hey, am I aware of the failure of s-c tests or "chmod: cannot access `/var/crash/*': No such file or directory" ? | 11:53 |
| jibel | the latter uses || true so it is not fatal if there is no crash file | 11:54 |
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| mvo | jibel: hm, ok, odd, it seems to exit with exit-code 4 before actually running any tests | 12:21 |
| jibel | mvo, I believe it is because the script is run with -x, output goes to stderr and is considered as a failure per dep8 spec. | 12:25 |
| jibel | mvo, it is pure speculation and unverified | 12:25 |
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| smartboyhw | balloons: ping? | 15:28 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: PING? | 15:36 |
| balloons | knome, phillw, noskcaj, pleia2 looks looks like an exciting weekend | 15:52 |
| SergioMeneses | balloons, did you participate of the ugj? | 16:06 |
| SergioMeneses | hello, btw | 16:06 |
| balloons | SergioMeneses, yes.. I setup some stuff to help give people some QA stuff to do, but pleia2 executed on it :-) so props to her! | 16:09 |
| balloons | also, I helped my wife make some cupcakes to celebrate ubuntu | 16:09 |
| SergioMeneses | :O | 16:09 |
| balloons | https://plus.google.com/104307250302998042813/posts/aMB1wGb4G8P | 16:09 |
| SergioMeneses | cupcakes :) | 16:10 |
| balloons | yes, I forgot.. I really have to show knomehis logo in a cupcake | 16:10 |
| SergioMeneses | mmm... that reminds me I have to download the daily | 16:12 |
| balloons | SergioMeneses, were you able to celebrate ubuntu? | 16:22 |
| SergioMeneses | balloons, I didn't I was working all saturday :S | 16:27 |
| balloons | sorry to hear that :-( | 16:28 |
| balloons | but your still at it now :-) | 16:28 |
| SergioMeneses | balloons, sure | 16:28 |
| SergioMeneses | I expect to make more contributions: testing, translations or bugs | 16:30 |
| SergioMeneses | balloons, are you part of ubuntu-laptop-testing? | 16:31 |
| balloons | SergioMeneses, no.. I only have a chromebook atm | 16:31 |
| balloons | but I do run ubuntu on it.. heh | 16:31 |
| SergioMeneses | :O | 16:31 |
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| pleia2 | it was fun :) not many people ended up actually using the global jam packages testing but people thought it was cool and a nice option if they weren't installing on hardware or in a VM (most were) | 16:55 |
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| balloons | pleia2, :-) Just happy wanted to give folks options.. glad things workedout | 17:28 |
| wxl | win 2 | 18:03 |
| wxl | oops | 18:03 |
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| silverarrow | is anyone on lubuntu here? | 21:02 |
| silverarrow | oh, sorry, wrong room | 21:02 |
| phillw | silverarrow: well, I am here, but #lubuntu is the best channel :) | 21:07 |
| silverarrow | arguably | 21:08 |
| phillw | he he, else use the QA Mailng list if it is QA / Bug related. | 21:09 |
| phillw | *L-QA* | 21:09 |
| phillw | silverarrow: wxl and unit193 appear as on-line | 21:11 |
| silverarrow | I suddenly had gnome mplayer steaming the local tv channel here | 21:20 |
| silverarrow | not sure why it worked but it did | 21:20 |
| silverarrow | I messed it up though | 21:21 |
| silverarrow | I had installed Totem to see if it was any difference | 21:22 |
| silverarrow | it wasn`t really | 21:23 |
| silverarrow | I could open gnome mplayer trough double finger clicking on the black totem screen | 21:24 |
| silverarrow | that is how I discovered it suddenly worked | 21:24 |
| silverarrow | not sure why it did now, because I had tried before | 21:25 |
| silverarrow | I got the idea to get gnome mplayer back to default player in browser | 21:25 |
| silverarrow | and ruined the whole thing | 21:25 |
| silverarrow | now there are no player in browser at all | 21:25 |
| silverarrow | !"#ยค%&/( | 21:25 |
| phillw | hmm.. well there is an old saying... "If it ain't broken, don't try and fix it". | 21:27 |
| phillw | silverarrow: can you repeat the experiment? | 21:28 |
| silverarrow | well it was a bit cumbersom setup | 21:28 |
| silverarrow | i have to don`t I | 21:29 |
| phillw | detail everything! | 21:29 |
| silverarrow | I am not a wizz like you | 21:29 |
| silverarrow | I use package manager lol | 21:29 |
| phillw | silverarrow: I'm no wizz, I assure you. Just write down everything you do. It may be of help to the devs, as they can put traces on as to what the steps do. | 21:30 |
| silverarrow | and I call on lasall for help | 21:30 |
| silverarrow | and you | 21:30 |
| silverarrow | I have been on this for ages | 21:31 |
| silverarrow | It`s just that I had a feeling it was sooooo close to working | 21:31 |
| phillw | even if they cannot get too much info from it; you have a proposed work around, which is always good until a bug is squished. | 21:32 |
| balloons | repeatability is the key | 21:32 |
| balloons | if you can repeat it, it's much easier to understand and fix | 21:32 |
| silverarrow | I know what I have done sort of | 21:32 |
| phillw | silverarrow: say hello to the boss of QA :) | 21:32 |
| silverarrow | which apps and packages I have installed | 21:32 |
| silverarrow | hi balloons | 21:33 |
| phillw | silverarrow: detail everything you do, on a per click basis. It will be a long list; but it must have EVERYTHING detailed in it. | 21:33 |
| silverarrow | oh | 21:34 |
| silverarrow | I see | 21:34 |
| phillw | every letter, which sites etc. | 21:34 |
| silverarrow | I shall do that | 21:34 |
| balloons | phillw, lol | 21:34 |
| balloons | silverarrow, hello | 21:34 |
| silverarrow | getting gnome player to work would be a big plus for ppc linux | 21:35 |
| phillw | balloons: silverarrow is a new member of Lubuntu testing, you saw him last when we 'kidnapped' this channel for the ppc testing session. | 21:35 |
| balloons | yes I remember | 21:36 |
| silverarrow | I think the issue can be related to identification or handeling of different codecs | 21:41 |
| phillw | silverarrow: I've got be honest... I'm not a fan of g-media player. I use VLC as it installs with the codecs. This is not allowed under *buntu as some codecs are not open source. did you install the lubuntu-restricted-extras package before you installed totem, etc? This is the information the devs do need. | 21:44 |
| silverarrow | well, I would be happy with vlc too, if it worked | 21:46 |
| silverarrow | it just doesn`t | 21:46 |
| phillw | silverarrow: so, you seem to have the best option... just don't break it again :P | 21:47 |
| silverarrow | yes, all conceivable packages and extras | 21:47 |
| silverarrow | however, the totem install must have done something | 21:47 |
| * silverarrow is of to reinstall totem packages | 21:48 | |
| phillw | silverarrow: indeed it must. So write everything down, including when you go to make a cup of coffee. It has to be repeatable | 21:48 |
| silverarrow | I wonder why gnone mplayer has to be on top of totem to stream though ? | 21:48 |
| phillw | silverarrow: that is not for us to work out... that's why we have devs :D | 21:49 |
| silverarrow | lubuntu ppc has a life of it`s own | 21:50 |
| silverarrow | not even the devs have a clue | 21:50 |
| phillw | for bug hunting, they are like Johnny 5 .... need input :D | 21:50 |
| silverarrow | lol | 21:50 |
| phillw | silverarrow: Julien runs ppc under a VM, it is he who wrote up the qemu stuff for the testing page. You guys with that actual hardware have to give the devs every scrap of information you have. | 21:52 |
| silverarrow | I am always very impressed by these guys | 21:57 |
| phillw | they are a part of makes ubuntu, but they freely say that if it were not for the testers, releases would not happen. | 21:59 |
| phillw | we are a family, each doing their best. | 21:59 |
| silverarrow | and it works !!!!! | 21:59 |
| silverarrow | maybe it is the totem mozilla plugin that works and gnome sort of works through totem? | 22:01 |
| silverarrow | I know some of the mozilla plugin packages are broken for ppc | 22:02 |
| silverarrow | like gnash | 22:02 |
| silverarrow | I will happily do testing | 22:03 |
| silverarrow | these old ppcs, take a minute to boot | 22:04 |
| silverarrow | the new ones like 18 seconds | 22:04 |
| phillw | indeed, can you post up what you did to L-QA mailing list so the other ppc testers can confirm, thanks. | 22:05 |
| silverarrow | oh yes, the mailing list, I don`t think I ever got on it | 22:06 |
| phillw | silverarrow: at the point of ppc's we are not attempting to break world records of fastest booting computer :D | 22:06 |
| silverarrow | no lol | 22:06 |
| phillw | silverarrow: join https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa | 22:06 |
| silverarrow | I am not bothered by one minute though | 22:07 |
| phillw | i'll approve as soon as it arrives on my system. | 22:07 |
| silverarrow | there | 22:09 |
| silverarrow | ubuntu can`t be any worse than debian really | 22:10 |
| phillw | silverarrow: 2blue? | 22:10 |
| silverarrow | yes | 22:10 |
| phillw | approved | 22:10 |
| silverarrow | I registered ages ago, and sort of forgot about it | 22:10 |
| silverarrow | then when I returned to ubuntu i registered on irc, not even thinking about any connection | 22:11 |
| phillw | join the mailing list, QA is not that busy a listing but it is the haunt of ppc people | 22:11 |
| silverarrow | and I got tired of the 2blue nick lol | 22:11 |
| phillw | the devs are also on that list, so we can directly flag them when needed. | 22:12 |
| silverarrow | my name is arild | 22:12 |
| phillw | *L-QA* | 22:12 |
| phillw | I saw at the application, hence my asking if it was the correct person :) | 22:13 |
| silverarrow | is there a way for me to have my name in stead of the old nick? | 22:15 |
| silverarrow | never mind, not that important | 22:15 |
| phillw | silverarrow: you can change your https://launchpad.net/~arild-lindseth name by begging on the #launchpad channel (I use begging loosely, but you do have to ask really nicely and be patient). | 22:28 |
| silverarrow | I will | 22:29 |
| silverarrow | thanks | 22:29 |
| phillw | as you only have one registered channel, they should be able to do it. You would then need to re apply for L-QA membership from what I understand of how it all works. Let them know I am okay with that. | 22:30 |
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| silverarrow | do I post my findings on gnome mplayer on the mailinglist ? | 22:40 |
| silverarrow | is that the correct use of it I mean? | 22:41 |
| phillw | silverarrow: yes please. How did you get on with #launchpad? | 22:41 |
| silverarrow | I just logged in | 22:41 |
| silverarrow | I made an account ages go | 22:41 |
| silverarrow | not using it that much really | 22:42 |
| silverarrow | there used to be more bugs then I think | 22:42 |
| phillw | silverarrow: posting up test results that cannot be fully put into a bug report is a perfect way of honing the bug down. Once it has been refined, a bug report can be raised. | 22:42 |
| silverarrow | should I address it to one of the ppc guys? | 22:43 |
| silverarrow | which of them care about ppc and mplayer? | 22:43 |
| phillw | nope, L-QA is a small mailing list, just title it as PPC and mplayer so the PPC guys know it is more important to them. | 22:44 |
| phillw | silverarrow: we're currently at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Reporting_Bugs | 22:44 |
| phillw | A bug will have to be raised once we are settled on it and it can be repeated. | 22:45 |
| silverarrow | I can`t really | 22:45 |
| silverarrow | I am happy to test though as soon as I can install | 22:45 |
| silverarrow | for the 12.10 version | 22:45 |
| silverarrow | I have the 1.0.6 packages of gnome and gecko, but I am still in 12.04 | 22:46 |
| silverarrow | the testing was live cd earlier | 22:46 |
| phillw | that is why I said to email up your findings so the other testers can have a 'play' with it :) | 22:47 |
| silverarrow | and I don`t think the installer bug has been fixed, | 22:48 |
| silverarrow | I am rather eager to install the 12.10 beta | 22:48 |
| silverarrow | I totally ditched osx and went for lubuntu | 22:49 |
| silverarrow | not many does that | 22:49 |
| silverarrow | even on ppc | 22:49 |
| silverarrow | oh, of course | 22:50 |
| phillw | silverarrow: the installer bugs both fell on about the same day, two different bugs; both were killers. We were unfortunate that two critical bugs took out the same architecture. My friend, I assure you that we went beyond the absolute time cut off before we had to say we did not a have a ppc for Beta 1. | 22:51 |
| phillw | But, as the boss said... it is only Beta 1, we have a Beta2 coming up at end of month & there is a commitment to squish both. In two - three days of them both landing, we simply ran out of time. | 22:52 |
| phillw | the installer bugs are both critical, and are being treated as such. | 22:54 |
| silverarrow | I see | 23:22 |
| silverarrow | beta 2 should be sufficient hopefully | 23:22 |
| silverarrow | there is no way about the installer bug? | 23:22 |
| phillw | silverarrow: the x.org one does not appear what was 1st thought. | 23:29 |
| phillw | something changed that affected the hardware but not the VM's. This is why it is so critical for you with the hardware to detail stuff up for the devs. | 23:30 |
| phillw | There is no doubt it is a regression, but on what... we need to find out. | 23:31 |
| phillw | alpha 3 installed okay. Beta 1 does not, so something got majorly broken. | 23:33 |
| phillw | balloons: btw, what is the word on switching from milestone to cadence testing? | 23:34 |
| wxl | o/ | 23:53 |
| * wxl pokes silverarrow | 23:53 | |
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