=== Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch [09:44] jibel: hi, I was looking at the adt output and something looks a bit suspicious http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196352/ - are you aware of this? in the software-center ouptut === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik [11:53] mvo, Hey, am I aware of the failure of s-c tests or "chmod: cannot access `/var/crash/*': No such file or directory" ? [11:54] the latter uses || true so it is not fatal if there is no crash file === _salem is now known as salem_ [12:21] jibel: hm, ok, odd, it seems to exit with exit-code 4 before actually running any tests [12:25] mvo, I believe it is because the script is run with -x, output goes to stderr and is considered as a failure per dep8 spec. [12:25] mvo, it is pure speculation and unverified === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|afk [15:28] balloons: ping? [15:36] balloons: PING? [15:52] knome, phillw, noskcaj, pleia2 looks looks like an exciting weekend [16:06] balloons, did you participate of the ugj? [16:06] hello, btw [16:09] SergioMeneses, yes.. I setup some stuff to help give people some QA stuff to do, but pleia2 executed on it :-) so props to her! [16:09] also, I helped my wife make some cupcakes to celebrate ubuntu [16:09] :O [16:09] https://plus.google.com/104307250302998042813/posts/aMB1wGb4G8P [16:10] cupcakes :) [16:10] yes, I forgot.. I really have to show knomehis logo in a cupcake [16:12] mmm... that reminds me I have to download the daily [16:22] SergioMeneses, were you able to celebrate ubuntu? [16:27] balloons, I didn't I was working all saturday :S [16:28] sorry to hear that :-( [16:28] but your still at it now :-) [16:28] balloons, sure [16:30] I expect to make more contributions: testing, translations or bugs [16:31] balloons, are you part of ubuntu-laptop-testing? [16:31] SergioMeneses, no.. I only have a chromebook atm [16:31] but I do run ubuntu on it.. heh [16:31] :O === Ursinha` is now known as Ursinha === Ursinha is now known as Guest37586 [16:55] it was fun :) not many people ended up actually using the global jam packages testing but people thought it was cool and a nice option if they weren't installing on hardware or in a VM (most were) === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [17:28] pleia2, :-) Just happy wanted to give folks options.. glad things workedout [18:03] win 2 [18:03] oops === yofel_ is now known as yofel === Noob`s is now known as McPeter [21:02] is anyone on lubuntu here? [21:02] oh, sorry, wrong room [21:07] silverarrow: well, I am here, but #lubuntu is the best channel :) [21:08] arguably [21:09] he he, else use the QA Mailng list if it is QA / Bug related. [21:09] *L-QA* [21:11] silverarrow: wxl and unit193 appear as on-line [21:20] I suddenly had gnome mplayer steaming the local tv channel here [21:20] not sure why it worked but it did [21:21] I messed it up though [21:22] I had installed Totem to see if it was any difference [21:23] it wasn`t really [21:24] I could open gnome mplayer trough double finger clicking on the black totem screen [21:24] that is how I discovered it suddenly worked [21:25] not sure why it did now, because I had tried before [21:25] I got the idea to get gnome mplayer back to default player in browser [21:25] and ruined the whole thing [21:25] now there are no player in browser at all [21:25] !"#¤%&/( [21:27] hmm.. well there is an old saying... "If it ain't broken, don't try and fix it". [21:28] silverarrow: can you repeat the experiment? [21:28] well it was a bit cumbersom setup [21:29] i have to don`t I [21:29] detail everything! [21:29] I am not a wizz like you [21:29] I use package manager lol [21:30] silverarrow: I'm no wizz, I assure you. Just write down everything you do. It may be of help to the devs, as they can put traces on as to what the steps do. [21:30] and I call on lasall for help [21:30] and you [21:31] I have been on this for ages [21:31] It`s just that I had a feeling it was sooooo close to working [21:32] even if they cannot get too much info from it; you have a proposed work around, which is always good until a bug is squished. [21:32] repeatability is the key [21:32] if you can repeat it, it's much easier to understand and fix [21:32] I know what I have done sort of [21:32] silverarrow: say hello to the boss of QA :) [21:32] which apps and packages I have installed [21:33] hi balloons [21:33] silverarrow: detail everything you do, on a per click basis. It will be a long list; but it must have EVERYTHING detailed in it. [21:34] oh [21:34] I see [21:34] every letter, which sites etc. [21:34] I shall do that [21:34] phillw, lol [21:34] silverarrow, hello [21:35] getting gnome player to work would be a big plus for ppc linux [21:35] balloons: silverarrow is a new member of Lubuntu testing, you saw him last when we 'kidnapped' this channel for the ppc testing session. [21:36] yes I remember [21:41] I think the issue can be related to identification or handeling of different codecs [21:44] silverarrow: I've got be honest... I'm not a fan of g-media player. I use VLC as it installs with the codecs. This is not allowed under *buntu as some codecs are not open source. did you install the lubuntu-restricted-extras package before you installed totem, etc? This is the information the devs do need. [21:46] well, I would be happy with vlc too, if it worked [21:46] it just doesn`t [21:47] silverarrow: so, you seem to have the best option... just don't break it again :P [21:47] yes, all conceivable packages and extras [21:47] however, the totem install must have done something [21:48] * silverarrow is of to reinstall totem packages [21:48] silverarrow: indeed it must. So write everything down, including when you go to make a cup of coffee. It has to be repeatable [21:48] I wonder why gnone mplayer has to be on top of totem to stream though ? [21:49] silverarrow: that is not for us to work out... that's why we have devs :D [21:50] lubuntu ppc has a life of it`s own [21:50] not even the devs have a clue [21:50] for bug hunting, they are like Johnny 5 .... need input :D [21:50] lol [21:52] silverarrow: Julien runs ppc under a VM, it is he who wrote up the qemu stuff for the testing page. You guys with that actual hardware have to give the devs every scrap of information you have. [21:57] I am always very impressed by these guys [21:59] they are a part of makes ubuntu, but they freely say that if it were not for the testers, releases would not happen. [21:59] we are a family, each doing their best. [21:59] and it works !!!!! [22:01] maybe it is the totem mozilla plugin that works and gnome sort of works through totem? [22:02] I know some of the mozilla plugin packages are broken for ppc [22:02] like gnash [22:03] I will happily do testing [22:04] these old ppcs, take a minute to boot [22:04] the new ones like 18 seconds [22:05] indeed, can you post up what you did to L-QA mailing list so the other ppc testers can confirm, thanks. [22:06] oh yes, the mailing list, I don`t think I ever got on it [22:06] silverarrow: at the point of ppc's we are not attempting to break world records of fastest booting computer :D [22:06] no lol [22:06] silverarrow: join https://launchpad.net/~lubuntu-qa [22:07] I am not bothered by one minute though [22:07] i'll approve as soon as it arrives on my system. [22:09] there [22:10] ubuntu can`t be any worse than debian really [22:10] silverarrow: 2blue? [22:10] yes [22:10] approved [22:10] I registered ages ago, and sort of forgot about it [22:11] then when I returned to ubuntu i registered on irc, not even thinking about any connection [22:11] join the mailing list, QA is not that busy a listing but it is the haunt of ppc people [22:11] and I got tired of the 2blue nick lol [22:12] the devs are also on that list, so we can directly flag them when needed. [22:12] my name is arild [22:12] *L-QA* [22:13] I saw at the application, hence my asking if it was the correct person :) [22:15] is there a way for me to have my name in stead of the old nick? [22:15] never mind, not that important [22:28] silverarrow: you can change your https://launchpad.net/~arild-lindseth name by begging on the #launchpad channel (I use begging loosely, but you do have to ask really nicely and be patient). [22:29] I will [22:29] thanks [22:30] as you only have one registered channel, they should be able to do it. You would then need to re apply for L-QA membership from what I understand of how it all works. Let them know I am okay with that. === salem_ is now known as _salem [22:40] do I post my findings on gnome mplayer on the mailinglist ? [22:41] is that the correct use of it I mean? [22:41] silverarrow: yes please. How did you get on with #launchpad? [22:41] I just logged in [22:41] I made an account ages go [22:42] not using it that much really [22:42] there used to be more bugs then I think [22:42] silverarrow: posting up test results that cannot be fully put into a bug report is a perfect way of honing the bug down. Once it has been refined, a bug report can be raised. [22:43] should I address it to one of the ppc guys? [22:43] which of them care about ppc and mplayer? [22:44] nope, L-QA is a small mailing list, just title it as PPC and mplayer so the PPC guys know it is more important to them. [22:44] silverarrow: we're currently at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing#Reporting_Bugs [22:45] A bug will have to be raised once we are settled on it and it can be repeated. [22:45] I can`t really [22:45] I am happy to test though as soon as I can install [22:45] for the 12.10 version [22:46] I have the 1.0.6 packages of gnome and gecko, but I am still in 12.04 [22:46] the testing was live cd earlier [22:47] that is why I said to email up your findings so the other testers can have a 'play' with it :) [22:48] and I don`t think the installer bug has been fixed, [22:48] I am rather eager to install the 12.10 beta [22:49] I totally ditched osx and went for lubuntu [22:49] not many does that [22:49] even on ppc [22:50] oh, of course [22:51] silverarrow: the installer bugs both fell on about the same day, two different bugs; both were killers. We were unfortunate that two critical bugs took out the same architecture. My friend, I assure you that we went beyond the absolute time cut off before we had to say we did not a have a ppc for Beta 1. [22:52] But, as the boss said... it is only Beta 1, we have a Beta2 coming up at end of month & there is a commitment to squish both. In two - three days of them both landing, we simply ran out of time. [22:54] the installer bugs are both critical, and are being treated as such. [23:22] I see [23:22] beta 2 should be sufficient hopefully [23:22] there is no way about the installer bug? [23:29] silverarrow: the x.org one does not appear what was 1st thought. [23:30] something changed that affected the hardware but not the VM's. This is why it is so critical for you with the hardware to detail stuff up for the devs. [23:31] There is no doubt it is a regression, but on what... we need to find out. [23:33] alpha 3 installed okay. Beta 1 does not, so something got majorly broken. [23:34] balloons: btw, what is the word on switching from milestone to cadence testing? [23:53] o/ [23:53] * wxl pokes silverarrow