[00:00] well [00:00] it is gonna be win95c, win98se or winME [00:00] not decided [00:00] but it has to be for old games [00:00] :) [00:01] maybe a mix of them [00:01] gonna use 2 x voodoo2 as well [00:02] Filthy [00:03] Will it powered by Hamster or Intel? [00:03] AMD K6-2 500MHz [00:03] Filthy [00:04] 384MB PC100 memory [00:04] ;/ [00:05] You know you love it [00:05] ofc [00:05] first PC I built [00:05] :) [00:07] You have a fetish problem my friend :D [00:07] hey [00:08] all I want is 1 PC and 1 OS to do everything I want [00:08] it just doesn't seem possible :/ [00:09] Only god know's your trouble's...... [00:10] anyways [00:10] better get sleep [00:10] o/ [00:10] Indeedy mate cheers for the laugh :D [00:10] Gonna continue my detox struggle :) [00:13] The only way to stay off roll up's is....... Nicotine patch & Coffee while I catalogue my entire book collection. :/ [00:14] Thank you silent party. Good Night. :) [00:53] i bought uplink on humb bundle 3 for android [00:53] this game has an option to change the screen resolution [00:53] but it *only* changes the screen resolution, not the size of the UI [00:53] so half the game is off the screen [00:53] this is a joke [00:53] lol [00:54] ali1234: is that bundle still up? [00:54] no [00:54] aw :p [00:54] $9.99 on software centre [00:54] daylight robbery [00:54] for a completely unplayable game [00:54] their tech support forums only have other users [00:55] and they recommend hacking xorg.conf to fix it [00:56] time to make yet another software wrapper to feed the corect values to badly written proprietary software [00:56] the worst part of it is that the UI has this cool sliding effect so you can see the UI for a second as it slides off the right side of the screen [01:01] \o/ [01:03] running it in xephyr seems to work [06:31] GOOD MORNING [06:35] \o [07:04] morning all [07:06] morning alarmbell [07:26] o/ [07:26] aloha [07:33] ohaaieee [07:49] morning folks [08:05] morning folks [08:06] Hi guys, I ran memtest overnight as requested, here's a pic of the results http://imagebin.org/227869 [08:07] that looks.. scary [08:07] or at least corrupted [08:07] spadders: I'd get yourself some more memory! === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte [08:12] I have found out since picking it up, that it had a second memory stick added [08:12] I think it was 1gb ram originally [08:13] it is only needed for homework, a bit of browsing and social networking [08:13] when you say more memory, do you mean instead of, or additional to [08:15] upload speed 160Mbit/s not bad :D [08:16] supermatt : when you say more memory, do you mean instead of, or additional to [08:18] Happy Monday, people! :-D [08:19] So, should I try running this test with each memory stick seperately? [08:20] spadders: well, with all that red, I would say instead of [08:22] supermatt: I've never even seen memtest before, so relying on your expertise and advice. Would it be worth running the test again with each memory module individually? [08:23] spadders: worth a try certainly [08:29] also try re-seating the memory -- sometimes it "comes loose" and contacts are bad [08:29] I've had PCs with "bad memory" which fixed itself after just pushing it back in a bit [08:33] Same here... repositioning the memory sticks usually helps === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:37] cool story http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2200559/Adam-Cudworth-Student-takes-stunning-snaps-space-using-30-second-hand-camera-balloon.html?ito=feeds-newsxml [08:37] brb [08:38] i see a few more of these projects due to raspberry pi. doesn't say he used rpi but others have [08:39] mmm pies [08:40] bit early for pies [08:47] popey, you should get that fella on the UUPC ..he uses ubuntu :P [08:51] never too early for a pie [08:51] π ! === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away === schwuk_away is now known as schwuk [08:56] i'm fasting this morning, no food till lunch [08:57] did you watch this weeks eposode of Horizon about fasting and living longer? [08:57] reducing the risks of cancer too [08:57] episode* [08:58] looks like ram is FUBAR [08:59] pinky-, i'm underweight so i have to be careful [08:59] i'd probably faint if i fasted for longer [08:59] since it adds up to around 16hrs including sleep [09:02] but i didn't see the programme [09:02] ok [09:07] if you ever get 1 hour spare time its worth a watch:) http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01lxyzc/sign/Horizon_20122013_Eat_Fast_and_Live_Longer/ [09:07] good morning everyone. [09:07] good morning to you too [09:08] good morning pinky- [09:13] basically the docu says that eating protien all time puts certain chemicles in your body to 'go go go' mode and as the body builds fast if any errors are made in the dna cancers are liable to happens.. but if you fast the chems go from 'go go go' mode to 'repair' mode and you are liable to live 30 years longer if you fast regular [09:14] the guy in the docu ended up on a 5 on 2 off days eating regime [09:15] ^^ added that incase you never watch at some time [09:16] anyway.. very interesting [09:18] hmm [09:18] well anyone who stays fit and eats healthily stands a much better chance of living longer than someone who doesn't [09:19] they say fasting reducing to risk of cancer by a miilion to one [09:19] if you fast you will never develope cancers [09:20] ..well that's what they stated in the above docu ^^ [09:22] JohnRobert: I think it varies, mates mum is very healthy and has just been told she has stage 3 lung cancer, so I'm sure just being fit and eating healthy doesnt just cut it [09:24] they also say fasting reduces your risk to stroke to 0 [09:27] fit and healthy's also a good deal less fun than chocolate and beer [09:33] pinky-: interesting link [09:33] ty [09:34] yeah when I watched it made me raise an eyebrow and I've played it since for a friend [09:34] made me pay attention too:) [09:34] spadders: aha! Annoying as it is, that's one of the cheaper things that was likely to be causing the problem [09:34] all about reducing 'igf1' in the body [09:38] bigred: At least I know what it is now, and can order some new ram. Will let you know how I get on === alexander is now known as Guest99112 [09:45] spadders: it might be worth taking out one stick at a time and retesting - it may well be only one bad stick [09:45] (if you've multiple sticks) [09:45] buit [09:46] but only really if you've the time/power to spend on running memtest a couple more times, or patience to start using it and maybe have it panic again [09:46] Bigred: it has 1x 2gb memory, which may be the problem anyway [09:46] what make/model of laptop is it? [09:47] Bigred: I think it can only take max 1gb per channel [09:47] Ah, fair enough, no chance of splitting it then. 2GB RAM is plenty, and memory exhaustion doesn't case panics [09:47] you'd get the out-of-memory killer (or oom-killer to its friends) killing apparently arbitrary tasks off instead [09:47] ah! Yeah 1GB is perhaps a little short [09:47] It's an Acer Aspire 5315 series, model no icl50 [09:49] looks like it only has one slot [09:49] http://www.crucial.com/uk/store/listparts.aspx?model=Aspire%205310&Cat=RAM [09:49] there are 2 slots [09:49] oh, 2 [09:49] "Each memory slot can hold DDR2 PC2-5300 with a maximum of 1GB per slot.* " [09:50] ah, I see [09:50] would I be better trying 2 x 1gb, or 1 x 2gb? [09:51] yo [09:52] spadders : your pc is single channel ram so I would say a 1 x 2gb might have slightly faster latency [09:52] spadders, 2x1G [09:52] oh [09:53] ok ignore me [09:53] lol, ok [09:54] :) [10:04] Morning all [10:04] Morning [10:04] Mez: once again thanks for organising the jam :) [10:05] popey: I managed to captcha a video of the square on the rhythmbox play button bug [10:05] popey: it looks to me like there is a specific point that triggers it [10:08] popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1047473 [10:08] Ubuntu bug 1047473 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "Rhythmbox play button has an odd square around it." [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:11] i can't reproduce it davmor2 [10:11] can you reproduce in a guest session? [10:12] popey: I'll have a look in a bit for you [10:16] popey: any logical reason for [10:16] 1901 czajkows 20 0 121m 3356 2800 R 84.6 0.1 0:54.88 at-spi2-registr 1944 czajkows 20 0 426m 14m 9.8m S 75.2 0.2 0:48.67 polkit-gnome-au [10:17] que? [10:17] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1196393/ [10:17] easier to read [10:17] can you paste the whole thing? [10:17] http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/1196395/ [10:18] bug 729827 perhaps? [10:18] Launchpad bug 729827 in unity (Ubuntu Natty) "at-spi-registry consumes most of the CPU and make the system unusable on Natty" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/729827 [10:19] could be a regession [10:19] ah [10:19] had never seen the at-spi before [10:19] machine has been unuable for the last few mins [10:19] czajkowski: I blame AlanBell, just cause he looks at a11y :D [10:20] i cant change any of the bug status to new again [10:20] I blame all those other processes that are high [10:20] should I just leave a comment [10:20] czajkowski: at-spi is the a11y layer [10:20] I don't think it is that bug [10:20] AlanBell: I call me not being able to use my machine and a cpu usuage that high a bug :) [10:21] czajkowski, file a new bug [10:21] yeah, it is a bug, just not that one [10:21] czajkowski: it will need a new bug that one was for natty so although it might be similar I doubt it is identical [10:22] everything is high on that page, at-spi2 happens to be highest, but I don't think it is the cause of the stress [10:22] hmm cant file it against reigistry [10:23] at-spi2-core at-spi2-core-dbg [10:23] at-spi2-core if you want to [10:24] the problem is compiz/xorg/unity or something like that [10:24] or thunderbird [10:30] Oooh [10:30] WANT [10:30] http://intr.overt.org/blog/?p=153 [10:30] a new gvfsd-mtp implementation that's sane [10:30] (i.e. it doesn't try to enumerate all files on the device at mount-time, causing timeouts on android) [10:33] heh [10:33] that's the most annoying thing about my phone [10:33] 'scanning filesystem' [10:33] phone grinds to a halt [10:33] what's annoying is that it does that even if it's plugged into a charger [10:34] JohnRobert: the new Android phones are all MTP-based.. and I can't get it to work properly on Linux because of the timeouts :( [10:34] hmm [10:37] never seen that problem [10:37] i guess i don't plug my tablet in enough [10:57] me neither [11:04] pinky-: watched that, quite interesting [11:05] cool [11:05] popey: but your's is all covered by libpod surely? Is that the i-stuff library? [11:13] longer answer => yeah I also thought so so mentioned.. somebody mentioned fasting and it triggered the response [11:13] is a 16hr fast sufficient or need longer? [11:14] to reap benefits? [11:14] they said in the docu it's not healthy for somebody who is alreay under weight [11:14] already* [11:14] :( [11:14] davmor2, true, i rarely plug the phone in though, i use U1 to sync my photos [11:15] i agree but i'm doing it for spiritual reasons, so any health effects are just a bonus [11:15] popey: ditto [11:16] it's just easier :D [11:17] I cant connect phone to laptop any more since I upgraded to jellybean which is kinda irksome [11:17] wow, brains are weird [11:17] I was typing one command and thinking of another [11:17] czajkowski: yes you can you just need to set the portal mode [11:17] and they ended up interspersed perfectly [11:18] davmor2: that what now? [11:18] I used droid air to get some stuff off it, but I want to put stuff on it which was where I used to connect [11:18] they use some silly new format don't they? [11:20] does unity work as quick as this for you guys? https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=KMXK_ZzT9-8 [11:21] wondering if something about elementary is very fast, or he has a super duper PC [11:21] oh look, elementary took our design for unity spread [11:22] hah [11:22] iam a unity hater so i dunno [11:22] mungojerry: mine is pretty fast [11:23] its as fast as that on my intel machine [11:24] i tried a nightly build of elementary the other day, it seems v nice desktop (esp. the launcher etc) , but the apps are not ready yet [11:29] http://www.flickr.com/photos/40645538@N00/6697633711 [11:30] todays randomly chosen desktop [11:30] cool :) [11:30] How does it choose? [11:30] popey, =) [11:30] i got some Windows 8 standard wallpaper to tired to change [11:30] no idea :) [11:30] i am using a tool called "variety" which is in the software centre [11:30] popey: what are you using to change it, then? :) [11:31] I'm just using default settings [11:31] $ LC_ALL=C apt-cache show variety [11:31] N: Unable to locate package variety [11:32] great [11:33] Can't start software-center, "the bug has already been reported" but I get a "Page not found" error when it opens the bug in a browser [11:33] go go launchpad [11:33] :p [11:36] MartijnVdS, private bug? [11:37] mungojerry: probably, but it's not telling me that [11:37] it says "Page not found" [11:37] which I interpret as 404, not 403 "Forbidden" [11:38] popey, does variety give the correct attributes to the photo? [11:39] attributes? [11:39] BigRedS: I got the webapps I think working following http://ubuntulife.net/how-to-install-ubuntu-webapps-in-ubuntu-12-04/ [11:39] semeingly by default they will be in 12.10 [11:39] MartijnVdS, apt-cache show != USC [11:39] popey: but USC won't start [11:39] popey, i mean the photo credit of the author [11:40] popey: because of that "private" bug I can't see [11:40] not on the screen, no, but you can press a button to click through [11:40] i.e. it retains the source link it came from [11:41] ah ok [11:41] are the links always flickr ones? [11:41] no [11:41] there's lots of options for where to get images from [11:41] czajkowski, i wouldn't use that ppa [11:42] no [11:42] why ? [11:42] because webapps are in the repo now [11:42] ah [11:42] czajkowski: ah, cool. I've just got a new drive for my laptop, so I'll probably install 12.10 on that this eve [11:42] MartijnVdS: sudo /usr/share/software-center/update-software-center [11:43] BigRedS, ssd or rust? [11:43] rust [11:43] davmor2: does that fix the unicodedecodeerror? [11:43] I pondered bying an SSD, but work just gave me a rusty one and free beats pay-for [11:44] also, it's 250GB which I wasn't going to get out of SSD [11:44] UnicodeDecodeError: 'ascii' codec can't decode byte 0xe2 in position 0: ordinal not in range(128) [11:44] davmor2: it does not fix it. [11:44] hmmm [11:44] maybe not [11:44] feck [11:44] /dev/sda1 213G 178G 25G 89% / [11:44] ^^ SSD :) [11:44] 240GB SSDs have come down in price [11:44] davmor2: LC_ALL=C software-center works [11:44] something happening [11:44] \o/ huge SSDs [11:45] but not sure it worked [11:45] I'm hoping that a not-broken rusty drive will cause a noticeable upgrade here [11:45] popey: What are you using on that? btrfs? ext4? [11:45] and then next time I want an upgrade I can go SSD :) [11:45] ext4 [11:45] MartijnVdS, whats the error you get, we can try and find the private bug [11:45] oh, also, I'd go up to ext4 on this [11:45] popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1047295 [11:45] Error: ubuntu bug 1047295 not found [11:45] MartijnVdS: can you run usc from the terminal and paste the ouput some where mvo will be interested in this I think [11:45] tempted to go btrfs on my next install [11:46] davmor2: I've found a public bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-center/+bug/1047281 [11:46] Ubuntu bug 1047281 in software-center (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu Software Center 5.3.11 won't start" [Undecided,Confirmed] [11:46] davmor2: that's the error I get [11:46] hmm, i see nothing private on that bug [11:46] popey: but lubotu3 and I can't see it.. you must be special :) [11:47] try now? [11:47] popey: btrfs.... I am pondering about doing that as well. I am currently on crypt+lvm [11:47] popey: worky! [11:47] \o/ [11:47] * MartijnVdS has btrfs on SSD [11:47] popey: next step for me is degraded (hotplugging usb) raid + crypt + lvm [11:47] * xnox ponders about migrating to UEFI boot, cause my laptop supports it. [11:48] popey: the software center log (which packages were installed) might be private about that bug [11:48] hi [11:48] xnox: new things are bad. Come to Debian. :) [11:48] BigRedS: install Lucid then ;) [11:48] how do you give permissions to a user to use a dir but not the other subdirs within it? [11:48] ixxvil: read or write? [11:49] ixxvil: if you give someone write permission to a dir, they can change permission on things in it [11:49] well he should be able to write whatever he wants to the dir [11:49] BigRedS: which things are new? UEFI? /me was using it since 2006 on most laptops, but this current one. [11:49] just to the other subdirs [11:49] just not to the other subdirs [11:49] BigRedS: and I am a DD ;-) so I am in Debian =) [11:49] ixxvil: man chmod explains everything about UNIX permissions and what can/can't be done [11:50] well ive been there [11:50] was just looking for the command to get it right [11:50] ixxvil: you could make the dir owned by root, group , mark the directory +t (sticky, like /tmp) [11:50] ixxvil: then make the "unchangeable" dirs owned by root:root [11:50] that should do the trick [11:50] MartijnVdS: thanks I've made the team aware of it [11:50] whats root:root? [11:50] ixxvil: user root, group root [11:51] ixxvil: "not the user you're restricting" basically :) [11:52] ok :d but whats te command to do this [11:52] :D [11:52] well basically [11:53] i want my web dev tohave acces too the /var/www [11:53] just to www [11:53] but www/ has a bunch of other dirs in it that i dont want him to have any access to [11:53] ixxvil: generally, the easier way to do this is to have a unix user for each site, and have the web dev use that unix user [11:53] popey: is this norm - http://ubuntuone.com/0QOGH6Ellpy9ZjqzaTgLzR [11:54] well i created an acct for him [11:54] then this is all done automatically, and you get proper segregation of files and of scp/ssh access and suchlike. [11:54] yeah, but put the site in ~/public_html, not in /var/www [11:54] and his home dir stuff goes in /sftp/user [11:54] and then he can have logs in ~/logs/ [11:55] and all that; having several per-user subdirectories is just setting yourself up for ridiculous fs permissions for no real benefit [11:55] czajkowski, thats the webapps notification thing [11:55] well theres only 1 guy who has to use this [11:55] (like /sftp/user /var/www/user /var/logs/user etc.) [11:55] so i have no qualms setting it up [11:55] czajkowski, but I don't understand your question [11:56] well any user created is automaticcallysent to sftp/ [11:56] popey: sorry got distracted by other window [11:56] popey: so I go to the envelope thiny and don't see any notifications for any of the sites Ive clicked it to be used on aka fb and twitter [11:57] so wondering if I am missing something [11:58] are you currently logged into those sites in chromium? [11:58] i.e. have a browser window open for fb/twitter [11:59] BigRedS: i just wanna give him permissions to only www and not the rest in it [11:59] not sure how i create public_htmla nd stuff [11:59] popey: yes [11:59] Ive only just logged in mind [11:59] as I restarted the browser [11:59] you only see notifications once you have the integrated (icons in the launcher) and logged in [12:00] oh [12:01] ln -s ~yourid/public ~yourid/public_html [12:01] that the way to create a public_html? [12:02] so basically, 1) install the webapps stuff, 2) launch chromium, 3) visit facebook etc and login, 4) click the integration option, 5) that's it. leave browser windows open for each app [12:03] ah could be the intergratioj bit I'm missing [12:04] popey, re: variety, i see lots of sources (flickr, facebook?, wallbase, wallpapersnet) http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~peterlevi/variety/trunk/files/head:/variety/ [12:05] ohhhhhhhhhhhhh I HAVE IT NOW! [12:05] cheer popey [12:06] hip hip [12:06] \o/ [12:06] does it need to be chromium to make them work? [12:06] Laney: now you just need your spinny spin chair! [12:06] I have one at home too :-) [12:07] https://twitter.com/czajkowski/status/245131316545335298/photo/1 [12:07] see along side the icons [12:08] BigRedS, until we get the firefox package done, yes [12:08] I thought for some unknown reason it would appear under the envelope [12:09] as not sure why I still have to have a browser open wit the page. [12:09] popey: ah, cool [12:10] Laney: it's not done right if you don't sing the spinny song while you do it.....http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUatnbaNfEo :D [12:10] oh man, this dynamic wallpaper thing makes me hungry! [12:10] http://wallpapers.net/fresh_salad-wallpapers.html [12:19] how do graze make those rubberized bananas? [12:25] dried, low oven temp I imagine [12:26] mungojerry: grow banana and rubber trees close together :D [12:27] they aren't the crunchy ones [12:28] oh, which ones? [12:29] link on graze.com? [12:49] beach bum http://d3ckgugpyj5kdi.cloudfront.net/1090/16.jpg [12:50] the best one i've tasted from graze was cherry bakewell. they had cherry infused raisins [12:53] http://www.tammysrecipes.com/node/1122 [12:54] looks like they used a dehydrator [12:57] rather nice as i can't eat normal banana without gagging [13:04] why? [13:05] guess it must be the texture, not the taste :) [13:08] yes [13:09] i love nearly all fruit, and i love banana flavour, but to eat it raw, i can only eat it with carnation evaporated milk over it, and sugar. [13:09] otherwise i gag on raw banana when it sticks in my throat [13:10] actually before then, it's when it's in my mouth and i'm chewing it [13:11] Good afternoon peeps :) [13:11] \o bigcalm [13:12] how odd [13:12] mungojerry: chew first! Don't stick it in your throat all at once :) [13:12] I feel I'm missing out on the best conversations [13:13] my son didn't inherit my weirdness since he eats a banana every single day at brekky [13:13]