[01:45] <pleia2> meeting in 15 minutes :)
[01:48] <akk> Is the jam over? Sounded like it was going well.
[01:52] <pleia2> yeah, we just did one yesterday
[01:52] <pleia2> usps charges for shipping (thought about ordering stamps online)
[02:00] <pleia2> #startmeeting
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[02:00] <pleia2> hi everyone :) meeting time!
[02:00] <pleia2> #link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12September9
[02:00] <darthrobot> Title: [CaliforniaTeam/Meetings/12September9 - Ubuntu Wiki]
[02:00] <pleia2> nothing on the agenda ;)
[02:00] <pleia2> so, who all is here?
[02:00] <akk> me
[02:01] <toddc> lurking
[02:01] <eps> huh?
[02:03] <pleia2> #topic Ubuntu Global Jam
[02:03] <pleia2> so we just had one event for the Global Jam this cycle
[02:04] <pleia2> Wikimedia gave us space in downtown SF and Moka5 sponsored the pizza :)
[02:04] <pleia2> had about 12 people come and go throughout the event, got to do testing, bug reporting
[02:05] <pleia2> pictures:
[02:05] <pleia2> #link http://www.flickr.com/photos/pleia2/sets/72157631474205044/
[02:05] <darthrobot> Title: [Quantal SF Ubuntu Global Jam - a set on Flickr]
[02:05] <pleia2> I had some videos that I tried to start the event with that walked through how to do testing, but they turned out to be a bit slow for the audience so I showed clips and then just did other demos live
[02:06] <pleia2> probably will just do live demos next time
[02:06] <pleia2> everything else went pretty well :)
[02:07] <pleia2> #topic Upcoming events
[02:07] <pleia2> anyone have anything?
[02:08] <pleia2> we didn't end up doing the Solano Stroll this year (it would have been today) since BerkeleyLUG wasn't participating and we usually tag along with them
[02:08] <pleia2> so ideas for stuff to do this fall are welcome
[02:08] <pleia2> (we didn't do the picnic this summer either, since it didn't happen!)
[02:08] <eps> September is San Francisco's warmest month. A BBQ wouldn't be out of the ordinary.
[02:08] <akk> so sad
[02:09] <pleia2> the only event on loco.ubuntu.com right now is the SF Ubuntu Hour on Wednesday (no Debian dinner): http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-california/1899/detail/
[02:09] <darthrobot> Title: [Ubuntu Hour San Francisco | Ubuntu LoCo Team Portal]
[02:09] <pleia2> eps: indeed!
[02:12] <pleia2> #topic Any other business
[02:12] <pleia2> anyone have anything else?
[02:15] <pleia2> anyone? :)
[02:16] <eps> Let's make some Ubuntu Hours happen, people.
[02:18] <pleia2> mt view and pasadena have been doing good with theirs too
[02:19] <pleia2> ok, I guess we can wrap up then
[02:19] <pleia2> thanks everyone
[02:19] <pleia2> #endmeeting
[02:19] <darthrobot> Meeting ended Mon Sep 10 02:19:48 2012 UTC.
[02:19] <darthrobot> Minutes:        http://ihas.5cat.com/~darthrobot/ubuntu-us-ca/2012/ubuntu-us-ca.2012-09-10-02.00.moin.txt
[02:26] <toddc> nice job thanks for the hard work!!
[18:54] <philballew> with btfs, can that be installed on an older computer as well?
[18:55] <pleia2> yeah
[18:59] <philballew> alright, i just figured i'd get my dumb question in early today! thank you pleia2
[19:02] <pleia2> bah, there are very few dumb questions :)
[19:05]  * greg-g just set up btrfs saturday night for a 2tb "raid" array
[19:05] <greg-g> btrfs raid, that is
[19:05] <greg-g> really easy
[19:05] <philballew> thinking about it for a old mac someone gave me.
[19:06] <philballew> I dont like mac, but I do like free. I am torn
[19:06] <greg-g> desktop/laptop?
[19:07] <philballew> greg-g, mac mini
[19:07] <philballew> so desktopish I guess
[19:08] <greg-g> sure, seems useful
[19:08] <greg-g> a backup server if anything
[19:08] <greg-g> not sure about their power usage though
[19:08] <philballew> for sure. Its ppc, so its gonna go debian. I live in a dorm so power is not a problem.
[19:09] <philballew> Thats why I do a lot of bit coin mining.
[19:09] <greg-g> haha
[19:09] <pleia2> philballew: actually I think you'll find more problems with using a non-x86 arch with btrfs than the age of the machine
[19:10] <greg-g> pleia2: really?
[19:10] <pleia2> I'd say so
[19:11] <pleia2> not that problems are inevitable
[19:12] <greg-g> why do you think that? are the kernels not built on non-x86 with btrfs support?
[19:12] <pleia2> they are, just most of the testing and development is done on x86
[19:13]  * greg-g nods
[19:13] <pleia2> you always get weirdness when you go to older, non-core arches when you're using something that's in development
[19:13]  * greg-g nods
[19:15] <philballew> if all I am doing is a basic file server, not a big risk.
[19:15] <pleia2> no, I think it's a cool project :)
[19:16] <pleia2> https://www.adafruit.com/products/859
[19:16] <pleia2> so pretty
[19:16] <darthrobot> Title: [Adafruit Pi Box - Enclosure for Raspberry Pi Computers ID: 859 - $14.95 : Adafruit Industries, Unique & fun DIY electronics and kits]
[19:16] <pleia2> and on my way to my house!
[19:17] <philballew> see, the raspberry pi is actually a computer in my budget.
[19:17] <akk> Rupa got a box for her Pi (not entirely sure if it was that one) and was a bit disappointed.
[19:17] <akk> It's huge compared to the Pi, and blocks access to some of the ports.
[19:18] <philballew> I could probably build one on a table saw here at school.
[19:18] <philballew> assuming I dont pull an iheartubuntu
[19:19] <akk> You could build a nice plywood box that was a lot smaller than the plastic one.
[19:20] <pleia2> I was hoping that ordering from adafruit would avoid complications of not having hacking access :)
[19:20] <pleia2> we'll see, it looks nice anyway
[19:20] <philballew> wood might be to hot?
[19:20] <akk> You'd think! Usually I'm a big fan of Adafruit. I should check with Rupa and see if that was really the one (dunno who else would sell a Pi box like that).
[19:20] <pleia2> there are a lot of places selling pi boxes
[19:21] <pleia2> I liked this one the best because it's clear
[19:21] <pleia2> (and pretty cheap)
[19:22] <toddc2> I like the lego case http://www.raspberrypi.org/archives/1515
[19:22] <darthrobot> Title: [Biz’s LEGO case: buy parts! | Raspberry Pi]
[19:22] <toddc2> yes that one good call
[19:24] <pleia2> yeah, the other problem is that a lot of them are being sold out of the UK, which makes the price end up a bit unreasonable with int'l shipping
[19:25] <toddc2> you can go to any lego store and print out the parts list and just buy the individual parts you need :)
[19:25] <pleia2> ah, neat
[19:25] <akk> That's cool, but I keep wondering why everybody wants to take a tiny computer and stick it in a great big case.
[19:25] <toddc2> they have in their database already
[19:25] <akk> Though the lego case would be perfect if you were actually using the Pi in a school.
[19:27] <toddc2> clear would look cool and easy to show how and what but lego is easy to modify and has the builder apeal
[19:36] <philballew> lego makes clear blocks maybe?
[19:37] <toddc2> yes but I think I only saw them in the smaller pieces but did not really look for them
[19:38] <philballew> well, spanish class time!
[19:39] <toddc2> waiting for godaddy to come back up
[19:42] <bkerensa> people use Godaddy?
[19:42] <pleia2> a lot of the internet does
[19:43] <toddc2> came with the job but now I have good ammo to change dns in the future
[19:44] <pleia2> (I still have some silly domains registered with them, but I don't use any of their services, including dns)
[19:44]  * pleia2 has never liked using registrar dns
[20:31]  * xavian_ waves.
[20:37] <dragon> Godaddy is down?
[20:47] <toddc2> godaddy has been down for three hours
[20:48] <toddc2> http://techcrunch.com/2012/09/10/godaddy-outage-takes-down-millions-of-sites/
[20:48] <darthrobot> Title: [GoDaddy Outage Takes Down Millions Of Sites, Anonymous Member Claims Responsibility | TechCrunch]
[20:48] <toddc2> jinks
[21:52] <bkerensa> pleia2: so I assume we will not be getting 12.10 CD's for LoCo's?
[21:53] <pleia2> no, because it's not possible, they will be DVDs
[21:53] <bkerensa> pleia2: ahh so we will get DVD's? :)
[21:54] <pleia2> they have to be, they won't fit on CDs
[21:54] <bkerensa> they should just move to USB's and ask LoCO's to re-use them :)
[21:54] <pleia2> USB sticks are much more expensive than DVD-Rs, both to buy and image
[21:54] <pleia2> I can't imagine they'd go that route
[21:55] <bkerensa> probably not
[21:55] <bkerensa> Fedora is giving out USB's now I guess
[21:56] <bkerensa> its just smarter to re-use then print new stuff every cycle
[21:56] <bkerensa> in the environmental sense
[22:09] <greg-g> except the point of the CDs/DVDs are to hand out, and if you hand out the USBs, they won't be reused in that sense (there are still new people you need to give something)
[22:24] <akk> I wish all those old 1 and 2 gb usb sticks had gotten turned into under-$1 buy-in-bulk things, instead of just disappearing.