[04:29] <Sarvatt> ml|transit: hope you took monday off too after that mess :P
[05:14] <ml|transit> hey :p
[05:14] <mlankhorst> Sarvatt: naw
[05:14] <mlankhorst> I'm stuck at schiphol international airport now for 2 hours
[05:14] <mlankhorst> trains won't go
[05:14] <mlankhorst> so now I set up some basic wep to my phone
[05:20] <mlankhorst> wow.. those flash hacks actually made it into libvdpau?
[07:08] <tjaalton> RAOF: btw, xstraces on the compiz hang bug. dunno if they're of any use though
[08:19] <eruditehermit> hey
[08:19] <eruditehermit> does ppa-purge work again with multiarch?
[08:42] <eruditehermit> the answer seems to be no
[08:42] <eruditehermit> painful hand downgrade in progress
[08:42] <eruditehermit> =)
[10:30] <mlankhorst> well, watching my email box, it seems the last 2 weeks have been boring :P
[10:31] <tjaalton> very
[10:32] <tjaalton> barring some mesa regressions that made us go back to the old snapshot
[10:33] <mlankhorst> did we get openchrome 0.3.1 in?
[10:35] <tjaalton> yes
[10:35] <mlankhorst> ah k
[10:39] <mlankhorst> suppose I'll spin a new x-1.13 renamed stack then
[11:23] <MCR1> Hi everyone. :) I came here to complain :-D
[11:23] <tjaalton> who doesn't
[11:23] <MCR1> Are you aware of constant visual lockups on Quantal ?
[11:23] <tjaalton> no
[11:23] <MCR1> seems the recent mesa upgrade is responsible
[11:24] <tjaalton> we have the same mesa as a couple of weeks ago
[11:24] <MCR1> They are hardcore critical - the display completely locks mainly when doing larger file operations - those continue to work in the background at least, sound etc. all continues to run, but the display freezes except for the mousepointer
[11:24] <MCR1> Those happened first time after recent xorg upgrades
[11:25] <tjaalton> what hw
[11:25] <MCR1> amd ati hd5750 on gallium driver
[11:25] <MCR1> but there are other reports with intel hw as well
[11:26] <MCR1> the lockups only happen when doing file operations like compiling or upgrading
[11:28] <MCR1> First I thought my SSD might die, but all file operations continue once the visuals locked up, also sounds continue to play like nothing happened
[11:29] <tjaalton> apt-cache policy libgl1-mesa-dri
[11:29] <MCR1> The only way to get back to normal state is via reboot on a VT
[11:29] <tjaalton> what does it say
[11:29] <MCR1> Installed: 9.0~git20120903.e1673d20.is.git20120821.c1114c61-0ubuntu1
[11:29] <tjaalton> and when did it work the last time?
[11:30] <MCR1> Some days ago (2 or 3), before the most recent xorg updates
[11:30] <tjaalton> and before that?
[11:30] <MCR1> never
[11:30]  * xnox ++ high IO locks up compiz. Sometimes after IO is gone doing tty7 -> tty1 -> tty7 fixes the pointer lock up
[11:31] <tjaalton> ok, so it's fixed in current mesa master, but we can't put it in before i915 works
[11:31] <xnox> well mouse pointer, who knows if it's compiz or not.
[11:31] <xnox> tjaalton: how can I run that?
[11:31] <tjaalton> xnox: the newer snapshot?
[11:32] <tjaalton> might be available via launchpad
[11:32] <tjaalton> unless the debs are removed already
[11:32] <tjaalton> or build from the git repo
[11:32] <xnox> =/
[11:32] <xnox> i was hoping for something like xorg-edgers ppa
[11:34] <MCR1> It is really a nasty problem, because I almost never can get compiling of Compiz/Unity to finish without a complete visual lock-up :P
[11:36] <MCR1> First I thought my SSD is maybe dying, but then others confirmed the same thing happening to them...
[11:36] <tjaalton> i heard you
[11:37] <tjaalton> try searching from your /var/cache/apt/archives if you still have the old versions around...
[11:37] <MCR1> I guess not, because I am cleaning up often...
[11:39]  * ricotz tries will try to push a new mesa snapshot to xedgers < Sarvatt 
[11:39] <MCR1> Thanx ricotz :)
[11:54] <MCR1> tjaalton, thanx also for the fast response 8-)
[11:58]  * mlankhorst putting a renamed x1.13 back together in his personal ppa with armel
[12:26] <mlankhorst> RAOF: ping? would it be possible to SRU plymouth 0.8.4 for getting rid of arm libdrm dependency or should I just backport the relevant patches?
[12:32] <ricotz> xnox, MCR1, mesa should be published in a bit in edgers
[12:32] <xnox> ricotz: merci =)
[12:32] <MCR1> ricotz: yes, thx
[12:33] <ricotz> this is a snapshot from the 9.0 branch so shouldnt be that cracky anymore
[12:33]  * MCR1 already fears the process of removing it later once fglrx will work on Quantal ;)
[12:34] <tjaalton> you don't need to pull all of edgers..
[12:34] <ricotz> yes, just pull mesa and libdrm
[12:34] <tjaalton> quantal has 2.4.39..
[12:35] <MCR1> tjaalton: oh, good tip - thx 8-)
[12:35] <MCR1> ricotz: thx
[12:35] <MCR1> afk
[12:35] <ricotz> tjaalton, hmm, this might be enough, yeah
[13:12] <MCR1> ricotz: I just saw that xorg-edgers also has a fglrx-installer - Is this tested and working ?
[13:13] <tjaalton> there is no working version for 1.13
[13:13] <MCR1> yeah, thought so... thx
[14:03] <mlankhorst> arghh
[14:03] <mlankhorst> mesa-lts-quantal requires llvm-3.1?
[14:03] <tjaalton> oh
[14:04] <tjaalton> currently at least, and it's expected to get bumped in newer releases too
[14:05] <tjaalton> maybe we could backport llvm there?
[14:05] <tjaalton> don't know if 3.0/3.1 makes any difference
[14:07] <mlankhorst> no idea if it matters or not, I guess I'll manually downgrade it to 3.0 for now
[14:07] <tjaalton> you need to change the patch too
[14:07] <tjaalton> that hardcodes the version
[14:07] <mlankhorst> ok :)
[14:08] <tjaalton> or skip mesa, as it's broken on some hw
[14:08] <tjaalton> for now
[14:08] <mlankhorst> I'll just rename current mesa, then
[16:15] <mlankhorst> poor mesa builder, still going at it
[17:50] <bryceh> welcome back mlankhorst 
[17:53] <bryceh> tjaalton, btw looks like for the package status page I'm not going to be able to continue pulling in the package notes from wiki
[17:54] <bryceh> tjaalton, they've added some new security for the wiki that makes it difficult to screen scrape it (at least, via perl).  I'll have to go back to the drawing board and come up with some new solution.  But that'll have to be next cycle; I'll probably just rewrite the whole thing into python.
[18:19] <mlankhorst> bryceh: ty :)
[18:59] <tjaalton> bryceh: ok, no worries
[19:00] <tjaalton> it's great even without the notes :)
[19:00] <tjaalton> hmm so hybrid pain with intel on quantal.. sounds like I need to dualboot my laptop, still keep precise around for the other bugs..
[19:01] <tjaalton> and quite fun that the touchpad hotkey on the thinkpad kills the device, so that to enable it again you need to restart the server
[19:01] <tjaalton> need to figure out what's wrong there. tomorrow
[21:09] <popey> pip pip
[21:10] <popey> i have an Acer Aspire Revo R3600 which is a 'nettop' with Atom CPU and nVidia ION GPU. I just did a clean install of 12.04 and get a desktop which goes black after a few seconds..
[21:10] <popey> http://askubuntu.com/questions/125608/unity-3d-no-longer-works-after-installing-12-04 suggests it's a video driver issue and that i can roll back to nvidia-current 295-33
[21:11] <popey> but it seems to no longer be in the x-swat/x-updates ppa..
[21:11] <popey> *sadface*
[21:11] <popey> is there some other solution? I actually want to run unity 2d on this, not 3d, it will be an xbmc frontend
[21:12]  * popey tickles bjsnider :)
[21:13] <bjsnider> well, the 295 blob is still on the server, but the download link is not explicitly shown anywhere
[21:13] <Sarvatt> popey: if its that bug you can use nvidia-current-updates instead of nvidia-current
[21:13] <bjsnider> assuming that's really the problem
[21:14] <Sarvatt> there's a 304.xx nvidia-current-updates in precise-proposed also that may fix it
[21:16] <bjsnider> i don't think i've got any quantal drivers in x-updates at this point
[21:17] <popey> ooh
[21:17]  * popey tries
[21:17] <popey> ok, this is getting 295.49
[21:17] <Sarvatt> thats supposed to fix the bug in 294.40
[21:17] <popey> sweet!
[21:20] <bjsnider> 295? that's old
[21:22] <popey> nope, still broken
[21:22] <Sarvatt> 304.43 is in precise-proposed waiting to go into updates
[21:22] <popey> clean install so this doesn't have proposed, I'll enable that
[21:24] <Sarvatt> i386? might want to just grab the deb https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/304.43-0ubuntu0.1/+build/3750320/+files/nvidia-current-updates_304.43-0ubuntu0.1_i386.deb
[21:24] <popey> amd64
[21:24] <popey> this is gonna suck for non-techy people
[21:24] <Sarvatt> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-updates/304.43-0ubuntu0.1/+build/3750319/+files/nvidia-current-updates_304.43-0ubuntu0.1_amd64.deb
[21:24] <bjsnider> are you sure this is an nvidia issue?
[21:26] <popey> unity and compiz are still running, and the way the screen breaks up is kinda odd
[21:26] <popey> it's like someone is writing zeroes over the texture ram
[21:26] <bjsnider> what happens exactly?
[21:26] <popey> bits go black, first the panel line by line, quite quickly, then the launcher, then the desktop
[21:27] <bjsnider> that's a new unity feature
[21:27] <popey> funny man :)
[21:27] <bjsnider> not buying that one?
[21:27] <popey> unity is still running, i can start apps, and then switch to tty0 and see the processes
[21:29] <bjsnider> anything helpful in .xsession-errors?
[21:31] <popey> just doing updates will see after I restart
[21:37] <popey> man alive, Atom is slow for doing dkms kernel modules
[21:46] <popey> bah, still fails
[21:48] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197551/
[21:48] <popey> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197553
[21:52]  * popey uploads youtube video of it
[21:53] <popey> hmm, compiz eating 100%
[22:03] <bryceh> RAOF, when you get in, would you mind accepting mesa 8.0.4 to -proposed?  Bug #1019444.  I want to get on with doing the final round of piglit testing for it.
[23:17] <RAOF> bryceh: Most assuredly!
[23:45] <LLStarks> hmm
[23:45] <LLStarks> intel 2.20.7 has uxa prime and sna prime
[23:45] <LLStarks> awesome