| Kilos | morning all | 05:02 |
|---|---|---|
| jrgns | morning | 05:02 |
| Kilos | yo jrgns | 05:04 |
| Kilos | hey magespawn you here already? | 05:05 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, ping | 05:28 |
| * Squirm yawns | 05:49 | |
| Kilos | yo Squirm good news | 05:49 |
| Squirm | yeah? | 05:52 |
| Kilos | http://www.unixmen.com/mate-desktop-version-1-2-arrives-install-in-ubuntu-11-10-12-04-precise-pangolin/ | 05:52 |
| Kilos | mate rocks on 12.04 | 05:52 |
| Kilos | just like maverick but different colour | 05:53 |
| Kilos | hi Tonberry | 06:03 |
| Kerbero | hi Tonberry | 06:04 |
| Tonberry | hello | 06:04 |
| Kerbero | o ja en goeie more oom kilos | 06:06 |
| Kilos | dag Kerbero ek smile | 06:06 |
| Kilos | hiya maiatoday | 06:36 |
| Kilos | morning superfly | 06:36 |
| superfly | morning Kilos | 06:41 |
| superfly | and maiatoday, jrgns, Tonberry, Kerbero, Squirm | 06:42 |
| superfly | have I left anybody out? :-P | 06:43 |
| Kilos | nope, well done | 06:43 |
| jrgns | hey superfly | 06:43 |
| Kilos | hi nlsthzn aquarat | 06:58 |
| aquarat | lol | 06:58 |
| aquarat | you really are always here | 06:58 |
| Kilos | hehe | 06:59 |
| nlsthzn | Salutations uncle Kilos ... drats... spell checking not working at present it seems >.< | 06:59 |
| Kilos | you at work nlsthzn ? | 06:59 |
| nlsthzn | no uncle Kilos ... going night shift tonight | 07:00 |
| nlsthzn | at work no more internets basicallt | 07:00 |
| Kilos | ah | 07:00 |
| nlsthzn | we are on lockdown as the system is over run by virusssesssesssss. | 07:00 |
| Kilos | aw that sucks | 07:01 |
| superfly | hi aquarat, nlsthzn | 07:01 |
| Kilos | tell them to go linux | 07:01 |
| nlsthzn | better... now I can actually work | 07:01 |
| aquarat | herro superfly | 07:01 |
| nlsthzn | o/ superfly | 07:01 |
| * nlsthzn trying out smuxi | 07:01 | |
| nlsthzn | now to get spell checking working | 07:01 |
| superfly | nlsthzn: that's like the Gnome version of Quassel? | 07:01 |
| Kilos | nlsthzn, mate works kiff on 12.04 | 07:01 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: nice... but it is a doomed project | 07:02 |
| nlsthzn | superfly: nope more like irrciii | 07:02 |
| nlsthzn | or what ever it is called | 07:02 |
| Kilos | oh no nlsthzn why you say that? | 07:02 |
| superfly | nlsthzn: ircii | 07:02 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: the work mint is doing with cinnimon they will bring gnome 2 type functionality using gtk3 | 07:03 |
| nlsthzn | gtk 2 is ded | 07:03 |
| superfly | nlsthzn: er, no, irssi | 07:03 |
| nlsthzn | superfly: that is the one... apparently... not sure cause I never used it | 07:03 |
| superfly | Kilos: I agree with nlsthzn, Gnome2/GTK2 is dead | 07:03 |
| Kilos | aw maybe they will grow with it | 07:04 |
| superfly | nlsthzn: I used it a little... all it is is an IRC client with a proxy plugin. You don't get to read your scrollback, whereas Quassel you do | 07:04 |
| Kilos | GTK 2 but they are thinking of porting to GTK 3. | 07:04 |
| Kilos | thats in the comments | 07:04 |
| nlsthzn | superfly: ah ok... I haven't gotten into a point that I can scroll yet... will see in a few comments :p | 07:05 |
| nlsthzn | Kilos: well all the power to them :) | 07:05 |
| superfly | nlsthzn: when you reconnect is what I mean | 07:05 |
| Kilos | yeah i hope so i like it | 07:05 |
| nlsthzn | ah ok... | 07:05 |
| superfly | I can scroll back to 3 weeks ago here if I want to | 07:05 |
| * nlsthzn still likes xchat for my usage | 07:05 | |
| superfly | ohi sflr! long time no smell | 07:06 |
| sflr | morning all! | 07:06 |
| Kilos | hi sflr welcome back | 07:06 |
| nlsthzn | btw uncle Kilos ... your post makes Unity sound like a decease :( | 07:06 |
| sflr | Hi Kilos, superfly! | 07:06 |
| nlsthzn | o/ sflr | 07:06 |
| Kilos | aw sorry nlsthzn | 07:06 |
| sflr | halo nlsthzn | 07:06 |
| Kilos | disease? | 07:06 |
| superfly | sflr: you know, we were going to organise a CBD Ubuntu half-hour, and then I think babies being born got in the way.... | 07:07 |
| nlsthzn | speeell chekin not a worksing | 07:07 |
| Kilos | lotsa peeps been moaning and going to other flavours | 07:07 |
| Kilos | all good there sflr ? | 07:07 |
| sflr | superfly: yes of course, at the coffee shop. I am also available now. Got sidetracked with work and travels. | 07:07 |
| Kilos | ah | 07:08 |
| sflr | yes Kilos, all good! :) and you? | 07:08 |
| Kilos | yes ty sflr we missed you | 07:08 |
| superfly | sflr: I'll put some feelers out on the mailing list | 07:09 |
| sflr | awww... thanks guys :) told you I be back! #TerminatorVoice | 07:09 |
| nlsthzn | brb | 07:10 |
| sflr | that's great superfly. should we meet up still this month then? | 07:10 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:10 |
| superfly | sflr: well, that's what we'll find out | 07:10 |
| superfly | I'm thinking possibly in about 2-3 weeks time | 07:10 |
| sflr | ok superfly. beginning of October then probably. There is a public holiday towards end of the month. | 07:11 |
| sflr | What is the seating capacity there? How many people can attend? | 07:11 |
| superfly | Yeah, that's also my mom's birthday :-) | 07:12 |
| superfly | well, there are a couple of tables that each take 2 people, but we could probably shift them together | 07:12 |
| superfly | and there are some couches in there too | 07:13 |
| superfly | hey not_found, what happened there? | 07:13 |
| not_found | much better :) Xchat FTW and all that | 07:14 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:14 |
| superfly | heh. I don't really like X-Chat. Never really did... | 07:14 |
| sflr | thanks superfly. We should make a booking then? | 07:14 |
| * not_found <3 it :p | 07:14 | |
| Kilos | aw come on superfly its nearly same as quassel | 07:14 |
| not_found | Kilos, at the end of the day... users should just use what works for them IMO... which ever DE, even which OS... | 07:15 |
| superfly | I don't think that's necessary, but I'll pop around at lunchtime sometime this week, and see what their lunchtime traffic is like | 07:15 |
| superfly | sflr: ^^ | 07:15 |
| superfly | -_- helps if I update the right site | 07:16 |
| Kilos | i have only used ubuntu since i came to linux and enjoy it just the unity trip was a bit slow and needed more thinking nl | 07:16 |
| Kilos | not_found, | 07:17 |
| Kilos | hi Vince-0 | 07:17 |
| not_found | lol | 07:17 |
| Kilos | at least this should work for 5 years now | 07:17 |
| not_found | is mate in an official ubuntu PPA? | 07:18 |
| sflr | ok superfly that would be great! | 07:18 |
| superfly | not_found: Official for MATE or official for Ubuntu? :-P | 07:18 |
| Kilos | ? | 07:18 |
| Kilos | lol | 07:18 |
| not_found | I mean if it is an external PPA there is no guarentees for support for 5 years right | 07:18 |
| Vince-0 | Hi, Kilos | 07:19 |
| Kilos | im happy its now in my synaptic with all its other packages | 07:19 |
| superfly | not_found: by definition, PPA's are external to Ubuntu | 07:19 |
| Kilos | oh i see what you mean | 07:19 |
| superfly | not_found: and there is no support for them from Canonical | 07:19 |
| not_found | ah ok... sorry... but what I mean it isn't in the repo's or is it? | 07:19 |
| not_found | the "official" ones | 07:19 |
| * not_found knows what he means but doesn't know how to say it | 07:20 | |
| superfly | oh right | 07:20 |
| tumbleweed | it's not in the repositories, no | 07:20 |
| not_found | thanks tumbleweed ... | 07:20 |
| tumbleweed | not even everything in the archive gets support from canonical. They only support a subset of the archive | 07:21 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: only main and restricted, hey? | 07:21 |
| not_found | so what happens if something falls outside this in 4 years? Upgrade or live with possible security hole? | 07:22 |
| tumbleweed | it's more complex than that | 07:22 |
| tumbleweed | not_found: yes | 07:22 |
| not_found | hmmm | 07:22 |
| tumbleweed | superfly: we're talking of getting rid of the main/universe divide | 07:23 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: oh, OK | 07:23 |
| tumbleweed | canonical supports some packages in universe, and not everything in main | 07:23 |
| superfly | ah | 07:23 |
| tumbleweed | there's a script somewhere that tells you what they support | 07:23 |
| tumbleweed | that said, the community supports everything else | 07:24 |
| tumbleweed | not_found: there's a difference between "not supported" as in no support from canonical, and "not supported" meaning you're doing something potentilaly dangerous | 07:25 |
| tumbleweed | some PPAs and external repositories aren't very well maintained, and will cause you trouble | 07:26 |
| not_found | tumbleweed, true... but Canonical gives the "support for 5 years" sticker on the site... and if community doesn't pitch in this might not be true | 07:26 |
| tumbleweed | no, the 5 years support is real | 07:26 |
| tumbleweed | and the community supports everything else | 07:27 |
| tumbleweed | but we also describe things as "not supported" when we mean "you've done something crazy, we can't help you with that" | 07:27 |
| not_found | k :) | 07:28 |
| not_found | thanks for the info tumbleweed | 07:28 |
| * not_found is finding the LoCo Council a tough crowed to contact... | 07:29 | |
| Kilos | tumbleweed, join the mate guys and help them keep up | 07:29 |
| not_found | lol @ Kilos | 07:29 |
| Kilos | hehe | 07:29 |
| tumbleweed | not_found: why do you have to deal with the loco council? | 07:29 |
| not_found | some politics over here in the UAE... | 07:29 |
| not_found | power struggle of sorts :/ | 07:30 |
| tumbleweed | Kilos: it's not really something that interests me :) | 07:30 |
| not_found | *tea time* | 07:30 |
| Kilos | well i hope they get enough dev guys to help them | 07:31 |
| tumbleweed | not_found: laura is usually on IRC | 07:31 |
| not_found | she scares us | 07:31 |
| * tumbleweed doesn't really know the others | 07:31 | |
| Kilos | maybe even Lee will keep using ubuntu then | 07:31 |
| Kilos | mate is a nice alternative for those that arent happy with unity | 07:32 |
| Kilos | and one can still stay on ubuntu | 07:33 |
| maiatoday | hi Kilos, superfly and everybody else | 07:34 |
| not_found | o/ Maaz | 07:34 |
| not_found | >.< | 07:34 |
| not_found | o/ maiatoday | 07:35 |
| maiatoday | :) hi not_found | 07:35 |
| Kilos | i go sort sheep | 07:36 |
| not_found | Kilos, give 'em hell | 07:38 |
| not_found | laura sorted me out, thanks tumbleweed | 07:38 |
| tumbleweed | np | 07:38 |
| Kilos | yo inetpro cremora | 08:47 |
| Kilos | hi Banlam bakuman | 08:47 |
| bakuman | hi kilos | 09:02 |
| bakuman | +Omm | 09:02 |
| bakuman | oom | 09:02 |
| Kilos | forget the oom man | 09:04 |
| inetpro | goeie more 00M Kilos | 09:08 |
| inetpro | oh and good morning to everyone else | 09:09 |
| inetpro | and wb to sflr | 09:10 |
| Kilos | haha | 09:12 |
| Kilos | jou beurt is jou beurt | 09:13 |
| Kilos | hi drussell hows things | 09:13 |
| Kilos | ? | 09:13 |
| drussell | Kilos: hey! good thanks, though xchat just crashed on me, so that's not so good :o) | 09:14 |
| Kilos | aw thats strange | 09:14 |
| Kilos | xchat never gives trouble. kinda like quassel but better | 09:15 |
| Kilos | hehe | 09:15 |
| drussell | Kilos: lol, indeed, nearly the first crash ever! | 09:16 |
| sflr | hey inetpro! :) | 09:16 |
| not_found | bbl | 09:16 |
| Kilos | had a strange thing happen here. 10.04 upgrade to 12.04 from the cd | 09:16 |
| Kilos | normally need an alternate cd | 09:16 |
| Kilos | hmm nother war starting on our lists | 09:24 |
| * sflr ping | 10:01 | |
| Kilos | pong | 10:01 |
| sflr | !Kilos :) | 10:01 |
| sflr | what war is starting? | 10:02 |
| Kilos | hehe | 10:02 |
| Kilos | pepps fighting other peeps about netiquete | 10:02 |
| Kilos | sjoe | 10:02 |
| Kilos | netiquette | 10:02 |
| Kilos | peeps not peps | 10:03 |
| sflr | yes, I saw that. didn't seem as a war though :) | 10:10 |
| Kilos | lol its just the start normally | 10:11 |
| Kilos | maybe this time everyone is to busy to add their opinions | 10:11 |
| superfly | Maaz: tumbleweed++ [ levelheaded response ] | 10:53 |
| * tumbleweed tried to avert a flamewar | 10:58 | |
| tumbleweed | (one I'd already taken part in) | 10:58 |
| Kilos | well said tumbleweed | 11:00 |
| Kilos | hehe | 11:00 |
| Kilos | i remember all the top/bottom posting issues | 11:00 |
| tumbleweed | IMO bottom posting is worse than top posting | 11:00 |
| tumbleweed | having to scroll to read a message is just stupid | 11:00 |
| Kilos | yeah thats true | 11:01 |
| tumbleweed | quoting the bits you are replying to - that works well | 11:01 |
| Kilos | yeah inline | 11:02 |
| Kilos | hi morgs | 11:04 |
| morgs | hi | 11:05 |
| Kilos | methinks tumbles averted a war | 11:05 |
| Kilos | yay i made someone happy | 11:13 |
| magespawn | good day all | 11:25 |
| Kilos | yo magespawn | 11:25 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: agreed | 11:26 |
| magespawn | hey Kilos | 11:27 |
| magespawn | superfly o/ | 11:27 |
| inetpro | morgs: wb | 11:28 |
| superfly | yo magespawn | 11:28 |
| superfly | and inetpro | 11:29 |
| inetpro | hi superfly | 11:32 |
| morgs | hi hi | 11:39 |
| Kilos | aw toods maia | 12:01 |
| Kilos | DigiGram, youre quiet | 12:01 |
| magespawn | later all gotta work | 12:04 |
| Kilos | toods magespawn | 12:05 |
| Kilos | wb maiatoday | 12:11 |
| inetpro | Maaz: coffee on | 12:15 |
| * Maaz starts grinding coffee | 12:15 | |
| Kilos | sjoe | 12:16 |
| Kilos | Maaz, coffee please | 12:16 |
| Maaz | Kilos: Righto | 12:16 |
| * inetpro feels like immersing his self in a big pot of coffee | 12:17 | |
| Maaz | Coffee's ready for inetpro and Kilos! | 12:19 |
| inetpro | Maaz: dankie | 12:20 |
| Maaz | Groot plesier inetpro my vriend | 12:20 |
| Kilos | Maaz, thanks man | 12:24 |
| Maaz | Kilos It gives me great pleasure to serve a bunch of geeks :-) | 12:24 |
| * DigiGram forgot he's logged in | 13:12 | |
| Kilos | ha ha ha\ | 13:13 |
| DigiGram | have been so busy today! | 13:13 |
| Kilos | busy is good | 13:13 |
| === DigiGram is now known as Digi||Gram | ||
| Kilos | lol @ the monkey | 15:20 |
| Kilos | old weenie | 15:20 |
| * nuvolari mumbles something about Navdeep and not being a newbie | 15:34 | |
| Kilos | lol | 15:35 |
| Kilos | lo nuvolari | 15:35 |
| nuvolari | he's been multiposting for over a year now | 15:35 |
| nuvolari | just in casy anyone was wondering | 15:35 |
| nuvolari | *case | 15:35 |
| nuvolari | major lag :-/ | 15:35 |
| nuvolari | hi oom Kilos | 15:35 |
| Kilos | als goed daar seun? | 15:36 |
| nuvolari | nee oom :-/ sit nog by die werk | 15:37 |
| nuvolari | iets in production gebreek wat ek moet fix | 15:37 |
| nuvolari | :P | 15:37 |
| nuvolari | en die internet is gebreek | 15:37 |
| nuvolari | dit vat vir ewig om iets te doen | 15:37 |
| Kilos | eish | 15:42 |
| Kilos | lol @ nuvolari | 15:54 |
| Kilos | yo Cantide | 16:31 |
| Cantide | hiya Kilos '-' | 16:32 |
| Cantide | \o/ | 16:32 |
| Cantide | paid for my ticket today | 16:32 |
| Cantide | whooooooooo | 16:32 |
| Cantide | feeling poor now haha | 16:32 |
| Kilos | what? | 16:32 |
| Kilos | ticket to where? | 16:32 |
| Cantide | ummm | 16:33 |
| Cantide | to Korea? | 16:33 |
| Cantide | *cough* | 16:33 |
| Cantide | i was forced to take 3 weeks' leave in November | 16:33 |
| Cantide | so i figured I may as well spend it nicely :) | 16:33 |
| Kilos | lol | 16:34 |
| Kilos | you gotta pass first or stay at home | 16:34 |
| Kilos | how is canstudy doing? | 16:34 |
| * Squirm yawns | 16:34 | |
| Cantide | canstudy is off sick | 16:35 |
| Squirm | good evening | 16:35 |
| Cantide | he will return in October :p | 16:35 |
| Kilos | hi Squirm | 16:35 |
| Cantide | hey Squirm :) just woke up? 'o' | 16:35 |
| Squirm | Cantide: no, need sleep | 16:35 |
| Cantide | my last exam is 2 days before i fly haha :D | 16:35 |
| Cantide | oh .-. | 16:35 |
| Cantide | still recovering from that lan? :o | 16:35 |
| Squirm | yeah, I woke up at 3pm yesterday all refreshed. Thus I was only tired enough to fall asleep at 2am | 16:36 |
| Squirm | and I was up at 6 this morning | 16:36 |
| Squirm | so hopefully after tonight I'll be back to my normal tired self | 16:37 |
| Kilos | hehe | 16:37 |
| Cantide | haha | 16:38 |
| Cantide | good luck getting the routine back :p | 16:38 |
| * Squirm shrugs | 16:43 | |
| Kilos | wb Meesterarend | 16:55 |
| Kilos | i go eat | 16:59 |
| nuvolari | lekker eet oom Kilos | 17:05 |
| Meesterarend | tnx Kilos | 17:14 |
| Meesterarend | I've reinstalled my system | 17:14 |
| Meesterarend | and are just finnishing up | 17:14 |
| Meesterarend | :) | 17:14 |
| Meesterarend | thought to check in while i'm working | 17:15 |
| Kilos | what system Meesterarend ? | 17:21 |
| Kilos | dankie nuvolari dit was lekker | 17:21 |
| Meesterarend | home system | 17:21 |
| Kilos | my se kerrie | 17:21 |
| Kilos | with ubuntu Meesterarend ? | 17:21 |
| Meesterarend | I had a mouse and keybord problem | 17:21 |
| Meesterarend | offcourse | 17:21 |
| Kilos | you been gone so long i forget | 17:21 |
| Meesterarend | :) | 17:22 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:22 |
| Kilos | yo smile | 17:22 |
| smile | :) | 17:22 |
| Kilos | usb mouse and keyboard Meesterarend ? | 17:24 |
| Meesterarend | yip | 17:25 |
| Kilos | did you try moving them to other ports | 17:25 |
| Meesterarend | and It seems my system was still on 32 bit | 17:25 |
| Meesterarend | everything | 17:25 |
| Kilos | usb things do funny things at times | 17:26 |
| Meesterarend | even other kb and mouse | 17:26 |
| Kilos | eish | 17:26 |
| Meesterarend | well it have been reported as an bug | 17:26 |
| Kilos | good | 17:26 |
| Meesterarend | it's now fixed again anyway | 17:26 |
| Kilos | is this on a desktop or lappy | 17:27 |
| Meesterarend | desktop | 17:27 |
| Kilos | pity you aint got ps2 spares | 17:27 |
| Meesterarend | well ps2 i have either kb | 17:28 |
| Meesterarend | or mouse | 17:28 |
| Meesterarend | its one port | 17:28 |
| Meesterarend | i chose kb | 17:28 |
| Meesterarend | :) | 17:28 |
| Kilos | wow not a purple and green one | 17:28 |
| Meesterarend | nope | 17:28 |
| Meesterarend | one port two colors | 17:29 |
| Kilos | where you got that pc | 17:29 |
| Kilos | japan | 17:29 |
| Kilos | or china | 17:29 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:29 |
| Meesterarend | actualy | 17:29 |
| Meesterarend | they are starting to replace most ps2 ports with usb | 17:29 |
| Kilos | so many things are being phased out | 17:30 |
| Cantide | yeah | 17:30 |
| Meesterarend | jip | 17:30 |
| Cantide | i've seen boards here with just one port 2 colours before | 17:30 |
| Cantide | ps2 needs to go :) | 17:30 |
| Cantide | would rather have more usb | 17:30 |
| Meesterarend | at least that'll be one less driver to load on a system :D | 17:31 |
| Meesterarend | and more space for the gooddies that count | 17:31 |
| Meesterarend | yip | 17:31 |
| Meesterarend | atleast 20 usb 3 prot would be nice | 17:32 |
| Meesterarend | prot = ports | 17:32 |
| Cantide | hahaha | 17:32 |
| Cantide | i use about 5 | 17:32 |
| Cantide | so 6 to 8 would be ideal for me '-' | 17:32 |
| Meesterarend | well... I did exceed 8 once | 17:32 |
| Meesterarend | please don't ask | 17:33 |
| Meesterarend | :| | 17:33 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:33 |
| Kilos | get them bridge things | 17:33 |
| Meesterarend | bridge? | 17:34 |
| Kilos | hub | 17:34 |
| Meesterarend | ah | 17:34 |
| Kilos | i gotta think sometimes | 17:34 |
| Meesterarend | well that are also not ideal, when all i have are still on usb1 | 17:34 |
| Kilos | lol yeah | 17:35 |
| Kilos | did you try run fsck | 17:35 |
| Kilos | normally fixes my stuff | 17:35 |
| Meesterarend | actually that also did not fix the problem | 17:35 |
| Kilos | sudo touch /forcefsck | 17:35 |
| Kilos | wow | 17:36 |
| Kilos | and the | 17:36 |
| Kilos | um | 17:36 |
| Kilos | recovery thing on grub menu | 17:36 |
| Meesterarend | i actually had my fstab file setup to check each time | 17:36 |
| Meesterarend | well there it worked | 17:36 |
| Meesterarend | it's only after hitting the gui that things got ... | 17:37 |
| Kilos | oh well alls well that ends well hey? | 17:37 |
| Meesterarend | messed up | 17:37 |
| Meesterarend | yip | 17:37 |
| Kilos | you on uncapped ? | 17:37 |
| superfly | inetpro: KDE Telepathy is MUCH better in KDE 4.9 (er... which version is the latest again?) | 17:37 |
| Meesterarend | i wish | 17:38 |
| superfly | ohi Meesterarend, long time no see | 17:38 |
| Meesterarend | hay supperfly | 17:38 |
| Kilos | eish so do you rsync your archives | 17:38 |
| Meesterarend | yes i can be very bussy at times | 17:38 |
| superfly | mmm, supperfly, am I that yummy? | 17:38 |
| Kilos | downloading from scratch is expensive | 17:38 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:39 |
| Meesterarend | I have apt proxy on my netbook | 17:39 |
| Kilos | he doesnt use tab complete | 17:39 |
| Meesterarend | downlowded about 300mb max | 17:39 |
| Meesterarend | I do not that much sorry superfly | 17:40 |
| Kilos | make a partition you can save archives to then its only the update you need to get | 17:40 |
| Kilos | 30m | 17:40 |
| superfly | haha, just teasing, Meesterarend | 17:40 |
| Meesterarend | :) | 17:40 |
| Kilos | hehe | 17:40 |
| Meesterarend | I used to know all the trick once | 17:41 |
| Meesterarend | then i got married :D | 17:41 |
| Kilos | lol | 17:41 |
| Kilos | Meesterarend, what service provider you using? | 17:42 |
| Kilos | voda | 17:42 |
| Meesterarend | yip | 17:43 |
| Kilos | try 8ta they got a good special | 17:43 |
| Meesterarend | still need to w8 for contract to expire | 17:44 |
| Kilos | 2g + 1g night surfer for R149 | 17:44 |
| Kilos | eish | 17:44 |
| Meesterarend | then maybe cellc | 17:44 |
| Kilos | 8ta is best | 17:44 |
| Meesterarend | well | 17:44 |
| Kilos | many are changing over | 17:44 |
| Meesterarend | i'm planning to leave the contracts | 17:44 |
| Meesterarend | and go prepaid | 17:45 |
| Kilos | ask nuvolari | 17:45 |
| Meesterarend | if i have a stable income after this year I'll see about 8ta thoug | 17:45 |
| Meesterarend | cellc are best for where i'm at atm though | 17:46 |
| Kilos | just remember you have to fone them first then they activate the sim for 3g while you on the fone | 17:47 |
| Meesterarend | lowest latency | 17:47 |
| Meesterarend | and 8ta are only gprs | 17:47 |
| Kilos | latency? | 17:47 |
| Kilos | you gotta fone them | 17:47 |
| Meesterarend | well vodacom are on about 200ms | 17:47 |
| Kilos | sims arent activared till you fone | 17:47 |
| Meesterarend | cellc are at least half that | 17:48 |
| Kilos | how do you check that | 17:48 |
| Meesterarend | ping google | 17:48 |
| Meesterarend | or even speedtest.net | 17:48 |
| Kerbero | :~$ ping6 ipv6.google.com | 17:49 |
| Kerbero | PING ipv6.google.com(2c0f:fb50:4001:800::1014) 56 data bytes | 17:49 |
| Kerbero | 64 bytes from 2c0f:fb50:4001:800::1014: icmp_seq=1 ttl=55 time=368 ms | 17:49 |
| Kerbero | :D | 17:49 |
| Meesterarend | got better speed on cellc with the same modem | 17:49 |
| Meesterarend | sound about right kerbero | 17:50 |
| Kilos | connect: Network is unreachable | 17:50 |
| Meesterarend | adsl of course have the best times | 17:50 |
| Kilos | you ping from cli? | 17:50 |
| Kilos | Kerbero, ? | 17:51 |
| Kerbero | yes | 17:51 |
| Kerbero | gtg | 17:51 |
| Kerbero | bbl | 17:51 |
| Kerbero | baie min mense het ipv6 support | 17:52 |
| Kilos | o | 17:52 |
| Kerbero | ek moes daai hack om te werk, en daarom is dit so besonders | 17:52 |
| Meesterarend | eheheheh | 17:52 |
| * nuvolari het nie ipv6 nie :-/ | 17:54 | |
| Meesterarend | vodacom is stadig vandag | 17:54 |
| Meesterarend | waardevol vir Jesus1 | 17:54 |
| Meesterarend | ek try weer | 17:54 |
| Meesterarend | PING google.com (74.125.233.4) 56(84) bytes of data. | 17:55 |
| Meesterarend | 64 bytes from cpt01s01-in-f4.1e100.net (74.125.233.4): icmp_req=1 ttl=49 time=549 ms | 17:55 |
| Meesterarend | daar is die ping | 17:55 |
| Meesterarend | deur my netwerk na my netboo | 17:55 |
| Meesterarend | na my foon deur wifi | 17:55 |
| Meesterarend | en dan na vodacom | 17:56 |
| nuvolari | PING ipv4.l.google.com (165.165.38.44) 56(84) bytes of data. | 17:56 |
| nuvolari | 64 bytes from 165.165.38.44: icmp_req=1 ttl=58 time=149 ms | 17:56 |
| nuvolari | 8ta | 17:56 |
| nuvolari | ^^ | 17:56 |
| Kilos | ek kannie dit doen nie | 17:57 |
| Kilos | wat tik jy in nuvolari | 17:57 |
| nuvolari | ping ipv4.google.com | 17:57 |
| nuvolari | dit oom Kilos ^^ | 17:57 |
| Kilos | dankie | 17:58 |
| Kilos | 64 bytes from lhr14s21-in-f18.1e100.net (173.194.34.146): icmp_req=36 ttl=56 time=286 ms | 17:59 |
| Meesterarend | daai ping time is oorie hele net | 17:59 |
| Kilos | ah | 17:59 |
| Meesterarend | van 239 to 948 | 17:59 |
| Meesterarend | en dan eers vir 408 | 17:59 |
| Kilos | wel my 8ta werk baie beter as voda hier | 18:00 |
| Squirm | oh screw it | 18:00 |
| Kilos | what now Squirm | 18:00 |
| * Squirm install Ubuntu 12.04.1 tonight | 18:00 | |
| Kilos | yay | 18:00 |
| Meesterarend | i'm still on 12.04 i think | 18:01 |
| Meesterarend | but my systems are up to date | 18:01 |
| Squirm | I haven't used Ubuntu in over a year | 18:02 |
| Squirm | well, haven't had it installed | 18:02 |
| Meesterarend | so probably | 18:02 |
| Meesterarend | ahhh | 18:02 |
| * Squirm waits for bootable flash drive | 18:02 | |
| Squirm | dd takes a while :/ | 18:02 |
| Meesterarend | :) | 18:05 |
| nuvolari | :-/ I'm addicted to dark chocolate | 18:05 |
| Meesterarend | well | 18:06 |
| Meesterarend | on that toppic | 18:06 |
| nuvolari | yeh? | 18:06 |
| Squirm | nuvolari: I second that | 18:06 |
| nuvolari | oh hi naand Meesterarend :) | 18:06 |
| Meesterarend | i left my addictions after not eating for a month | 18:06 |
| Meesterarend | :D | 18:06 |
| Meesterarend | nuvolari: hi | 18:07 |
| nuvolari | joh, eetstaking Meesterarend ? | 18:07 |
| Meesterarend | nee vas | 18:07 |
| nuvolari | ah | 18:07 |
| nuvolari | water-vas of waai een? | 18:07 |
| Kilos | hmm nuvolari | 18:07 |
| Meesterarend | ja slegs water | 18:07 |
| Meesterarend | en nagmaal | 18:07 |
| Kilos | jy gaan nou nou soos n bal lyk | 18:07 |
| Meesterarend | elke sondag by die kerk | 18:07 |
| nuvolari | Squirm: spar has a 5-99 special on Nestle slabs :P | 18:07 |
| Meesterarend | noggals nie | 18:08 |
| Meesterarend | lekker | 18:08 |
| Meesterarend | baie gewig verloor | 18:08 |
| Meesterarend | maar ek voel nou goed | 18:08 |
| * nuvolari sukkel met sulke vasberadenheid | 18:08 | |
| nuvolari | tjoklits is darm maar lekker | 18:09 |
| nuvolari | :P | 18:09 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:09 |
| Meesterarend | wel dit hang af hoekom mens dit doen | 18:09 |
| Meesterarend | dit was nogal maklik | 18:09 |
| Meesterarend | maar aan die einde is ek huis toe gestuur om te rus | 18:09 |
| Meesterarend | want toe is my energie op | 18:09 |
| Kilos | sjoe, water vir n maand | 18:10 |
| Meesterarend | dan is die water nog droog ook :( | 18:10 |
| nuvolari | 'n mens piepie permanent | 18:10 |
| nuvolari | :P | 18:10 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:10 |
| Meesterarend | ek het gejuig as ek die dag 750ml in kry | 18:10 |
| Kilos | sonder vleis sal ek dooi | 18:11 |
| Meesterarend | hehehehe | 18:11 |
| Meesterarend | wel my tanne pyn as ek te veel van daai goed eet | 18:11 |
| Meesterarend | so dit was nogals lekker om nie tandpyn te kry nie :D | 18:13 |
| Kilos | haha | 18:14 |
| Meesterarend | ek is baie lief vir my steak maar ai | 18:15 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, | 18:16 |
| Kilos | jy het gemis | 18:16 |
| Kilos | ek wil nie vloek nie | 18:17 |
| magespawn | evening all | 18:17 |
| Kilos | hey magespawn | 18:17 |
| magespawn | is good, is good, is good. and you? | 18:17 |
| Meesterarend | hey magespawn | 18:18 |
| Kilos | good ty since i forked off | 18:18 |
| magespawn | hey Meesterarend | 18:18 |
| Kilos | Maaz, announce Monthly meeting in 7 days time guys | 18:19 |
| Maaz | Announcement from Kilos! Monthly meeting in 7 days time guys | 18:19 |
| Meesterarend | brb | 18:19 |
| smile | Didn't I give you, all that I've got too? | 18:19 |
| Kilos | smile? | 18:20 |
| Cantide | hey smile '-' | 18:20 |
| smile | Kilos: http://www.lyrics007.com/Sade%20Lyrics/No%20Ordinary%20Love%20Lyrics.html :) | 18:20 |
| smile | hi Cantide :D | 18:20 |
| Kilos | LOL YOU GONE MUSIC MAD | 18:20 |
| smile | :DD | 18:20 |
| Kilos | oops | 18:20 |
| Kilos | sorry | 18:20 |
| smile | don't mind :) | 18:20 |
| smile | It's a really beautiful song | 18:21 |
| smile | I recognise it in my own life :| weird. | 18:21 |
| magespawn | specially considering sade is more for an older generation | 18:21 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:22 |
| smile | Lol. I like it. :p | 18:22 |
| magespawn | normally of course | 18:22 |
| * smile listens now to Rhythm is a dancer (SNAP) | 18:22 | |
| Kilos | smile, listen to I will always love you by celine deon | 18:22 |
| smile | I know that song, Kilos. Like it too :p | 18:23 |
| smile | maybe you mean celine dion :) | 18:23 |
| Kilos | her too yeah | 18:23 |
| magespawn | lol | 18:23 |
| smile | Kilos: I don't like Celine Dion, but I like her music | 18:23 |
| smile | :p | 18:23 |
| Kilos | nuvolari, jy nog hier | 18:23 |
| smile | is jy hier? :o | 18:24 |
| Kilos | too busy chasing chocolates | 18:24 |
| Kilos | are you here | 18:24 |
| Kilos | still here | 18:24 |
| Kilos | nog hier | 18:24 |
| Cantide | what are you chasing them with? tequila? '-' | 18:25 |
| Kilos | hehe | 18:26 |
| smile | :) | 18:26 |
| * Squirm takes a deeeeeeeeeeeeep breath | 18:26 | |
| * Squirm writes partitioning changes to disk | 18:26 | |
| * smile is curious if Squirm's disk will survive | 18:27 | |
| smile | :p | 18:27 |
| Squirm | so am I | 18:27 |
| smile | :p | 18:27 |
| Squirm | this install better ask me if I want to install only base system... | 18:28 |
| smile | bye everyone :) | 18:28 |
| Squirm | night night | 18:28 |
| Kilos | night smile | 18:29 |
| Kilos | sleep tight | 18:29 |
| smile | thanks, Squirm & Kilos :) you both, also :p | 18:29 |
| * Squirm waits impatiently | 18:29 | |
| Kilos | lol patience Squirm | 18:30 |
| Squirm | 70%... | 18:30 |
| Kilos | what size stick do you need to make a usb installer thingie | 18:32 |
| Squirm | enough for the image to fit on to | 18:32 |
| Kilos | so 2g should work? | 18:32 |
| bakuman | yes | 18:32 |
| Squirm | I had a 700mb image on a 8Gb flash drive | 18:32 |
| Squirm | so yes | 18:32 |
| Kilos | yay ty bakuman | 18:32 |
| bakuman | if g == GB | 18:32 |
| bakuman | :d | 18:32 |
| Squirm | lol | 18:32 |
| magespawn | check this http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?v=pqzUpeAPqZw&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DpqzUpeAPqZw&gl=ZA HawkiesZA | 18:33 |
| magespawn | from g+ | 18:33 |
| Squirm | AR Drone flight? | 18:34 |
| Squirm | yeah, I buffered it, forgot about it, now I've formatted and still haven't watched it | 18:34 |
| inetpro | superfly: KDE SC 4.9.1 was released on September 4th, 2012 | 18:36 |
| inetpro | but I'm still running on 4.8.4 with Kubuntu 12.04.1 | 18:37 |
| inetpro | can't remember what the SC stands for though | 18:37 |
| Meesterarend | you could try a ppa inetpro | 18:39 |
| Meesterarend | :P | 18:39 |
| inetpro | Meesterarend: nah, I'll wait for it | 18:39 |
| Meesterarend | I would be too impatient | 18:40 |
| Meesterarend | I like stable put close to the cutting edge thingie | 18:41 |
| Meesterarend | put = but | 18:42 |
| inetpro | I don't have a compelling reason to upgrade | 18:42 |
| Meesterarend | so i'm running my home systems on 3.5 kernel | 18:42 |
| Meesterarend | ah | 18:42 |
| inetpro | BTW I was playing around with Google Hangouts over the weekend and must say I'm very impressed | 18:43 |
| inetpro | face to face video conferencing is very cool | 18:44 |
| Meesterarend | ok | 18:44 |
| inetpro | and it even works from mobile to PC now, something that I could not do some time ago | 18:44 |
| Meesterarend | i used skype for that before | 18:44 |
| inetpro | or PC to mobile | 18:44 |
| inetpro | no need for skype with this | 18:45 |
| Meesterarend | cool | 18:45 |
| Meesterarend | online then? | 18:45 |
| inetpro | you can even do screen sharing | 18:45 |
| inetpro | a very cool feature | 18:45 |
| inetpro | but I would love to compare skype and G+ hangouts in a bit more detail | 18:46 |
| Meesterarend | what's the data usage for something like this? | 18:47 |
| inetpro | that's exactly what I would like to compare | 18:47 |
| Kilos | heavy | 18:47 |
| Meesterarend | i know skype are about 100mb for about 20 minutes of video 2 way | 18:48 |
| inetpro | at least 500 mbps with full video on boths sides on g+ | 18:48 |
| Meesterarend | ouch | 18:48 |
| inetpro | but I guess it also depends on other factors, like movement, etc | 18:48 |
| magespawn | is there video quality adjustments you can make? | 18:49 |
| Meesterarend | i'll skip on that for now | 18:49 |
| Meesterarend | :) | 18:49 |
| Kilos | thats for uncapped peeps | 18:49 |
| inetpro | two choices, either Fast connection or Slow connection | 18:49 |
| inetpro | slow connection reduces it by about 50% | 18:49 |
| inetpro | and if you disable video on both sides it goes down to about 128kbps IIRC | 18:50 |
| inetpro | but once again it depends on whether you're chatty or not | 18:50 |
| Meesterarend | that's good for voice chat | 18:51 |
| inetpro | it varies as you chat | 18:52 |
| inetpro | and drops almost completely, though I didn't test this specifically, if you keep quiet | 18:53 |
| Kilos | inetpro, is that per second | 18:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: kbps = kilobits per second | 18:53 |
| Kilos | whew | 18:53 |
| Kilos | 10 secs per meg | 18:53 |
| Kilos | oh bits | 18:53 |
| inetpro | Kilos: yep | 18:53 |
| Squirm | so on a 384 line, you're kind of stuck | 18:53 |
| inetpro | but still cheaper than making a voice call on your mobile phone | 18:54 |
| Meesterarend | yip | 18:54 |
| Squirm | 10s per meg | 18:54 |
| Squirm | that's 10000 per gig | 18:55 |
| inetpro | was chatting to a friend in NZ who's paying less than 1c per MB these days | 18:55 |
| Squirm | Maaz: 10000/60/60 | 18:55 |
| Maaz | Squirm: 2.77777777778 | 18:55 |
| Meesterarend | especially if you have same data on your phone it can be very cheap | 18:55 |
| Squirm | 2.7hours at what, R50? | 18:55 |
| magespawn | not bad | 18:55 |
| magespawn | if you uncapped then you can really score | 18:56 |
| inetpro | magespawn: true | 18:56 |
| Squirm | but that's pc-pc | 18:56 |
| magespawn | ease of use inetpro? | 18:56 |
| inetpro | magespawn: extremely easy | 18:56 |
| magespawn | or pcmto wifi device | 18:56 |
| magespawn | pc to | 18:56 |
| magespawn | cool | 18:57 |
| Squirm | that could work | 18:57 |
| Squirm | I want to look at some voip solutions | 18:57 |
| inetpro | the only catch is the first call | 18:57 |
| Meesterarend | one day when i'm big and rich and oh wait... wrong dream | 18:57 |
| Meesterarend | :) | 18:57 |
| Kilos | lol | 18:58 |
| inetpro | once the plugin is installed it really is very simple | 18:58 |
| Squirm | lol Meesterarend | 18:58 |
| Squirm | inetpro: first call? | 18:58 |
| inetpro | Squirm: if you introduce someone who has never used it | 18:59 |
| magespawn | like Astrix, Squirm ? | 18:59 |
| Squirm | magespawn: in the end, yes | 18:59 |
| Squirm | but instead of going out on a landline, setup external voip services | 18:59 |
| Kilos | night guys. sleep tight | 18:59 |
| magespawn | 3cx i think is astrix based | 18:59 |
| magespawn | night Kilos | 19:00 |
| Meesterarend | night Kilos | 19:00 |
| Squirm | are you kidding me!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?! | 19:00 |
| inetpro | I even had a chat from my ubuntu with someone else walking around with his iPad | 19:00 |
| Squirm | so I'm isntall Ubuntu 12.04 | 19:00 |
| Squirm | no where does it ask me what packages I wanted to install | 19:00 |
| Squirm | it just did it | 19:00 |
| Squirm | and now, at 80%, it's asking me to insert a disk | 19:01 |
| Squirm | an install, from an alternate iso, is asking for another cd | 19:01 |
| inetpro | was kind of cool to see the inside of his house and his family | 19:01 |
| inetpro | Squirm: huh? | 19:03 |
| Squirm | inetpro: I decided to install Ubuntu, do a base install. but I downloaded the alternate cd, thinking it would prompt me as to what packages I would like to install | 19:04 |
| Squirm | but alas, after partitioning, it went along and just started to install, no prompts, nada | 19:04 |
| inetpro | eish | 19:04 |
| Squirm | now, at 80%, it's asking me to inset a cd | 19:04 |
| inetpro | no, there's no choosing of packages | 19:04 |
| inetpro | hmm... asking for a disk? | 19:05 |
| inetpro | that is strange | 19:05 |
| inetpro | Squirm: what did you download? | 19:05 |
| Squirm | I'm sure I downloaded Ubuntu alternate... | 19:06 |
| inetpro | URL | 19:06 |
| inetpro | ? | 19:06 |
| * Squirm changes console in the installer | 19:06 | |
| Squirm | a 692.3M iso, ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-i386.iso | 19:07 |
| Squirm | from a torrent file I got off the Ubuntu website | 19:07 |
| Squirm | hmm, time to download the minimal installer and try again | 19:09 |
| magespawn | never had any of my installations ask me for a disk, wierd | 19:10 |
| Squirm | well, either way. I was hoping for it to prompt me to install selected packages | 19:11 |
| Squirm | now I have to wait 40min for a 30Mb file to download :/ | 19:11 |
| Squirm | and when was the last time the ubuntu.mirror.ac.za was updated? | 19:12 |
| Squirm | highest I see is 11.10 | 19:13 |
| magespawn | under ubuntu-release? | 19:15 |
| Meesterarend | that happend to me some few releases ago | 19:15 |
| Meesterarend | but not recently though | 19:15 |
| Meesterarend | usually a faulty write | 19:16 |
| magespawn | how is this http://ubuntu.mirror.ac.za/ubuntu-release/12.04.1/ | 19:17 |
| Meesterarend | as for being asked about what to intall i think just the server edition does that | 19:17 |
| Squirm | are you sure? | 19:17 |
| Squirm | I know the mini does that though too | 19:17 |
| Meesterarend | not very i usually use only the gui install | 19:18 |
| Meesterarend | it seems faster some how | 19:18 |
| Squirm | thing is, I don't want to install the standard gui | 19:19 |
| Meesterarend | I gathered that | 19:20 |
| Squirm | :P | 19:20 |
| Squirm | I'm difficult, I know | 19:20 |
| Meesterarend | :D | 19:20 |
| inetpro | Squirm: I'm not aware of a mini install | 19:20 |
| Squirm | either way, I have to go somewhere now. I have a half installed OS | 19:20 |
| Meesterarend | something like JEOS | 19:21 |
| Squirm | inetpro: I'm downloading it now. though it seems it's 12.04 not 12.04.1, but that's ok | 19:21 |
| inetpro | very interesting | 19:21 |
| * inetpro checks it out at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD | 19:22 | |
| Meesterarend | if you have a sandisk flash stick you might be able to resize the cdrom partition on it, and write an image to that | 19:22 |
| magespawn | Squirm: did you have a look at that link i sent? | 19:22 |
| Meesterarend | much more reliable that the flashstick install | 19:22 |
| Meesterarend | that = than | 19:22 |
| Squirm | I did magespawn, thanks. | 19:23 |
| magespawn | cool | 19:23 |
| Squirm | I'm also downloading the server iso | 19:23 |
| Squirm | 2 hours till it's completed. I'll be sleeping by that time :P | 19:23 |
| Meesterarend | well i usualy leave it running and atend to it the next time i get to it :P | 19:25 |
| magespawn | is there a way to download an entire youtube channel? | 19:26 |
| magespawn | like hak5 | 19:26 |
| Cantide | night guys '-' | 19:26 |
| magespawn | good night Cantide | 19:26 |
| queery | hi | 19:27 |
| Meesterarend | always magespawn | 19:27 |
| Meesterarend | try wget for a hack | 19:27 |
| Squirm | Meesterarend: I usually would, but I don't have a usable desktop :P | 19:27 |
| queery | does anyone know the link to tumbleweed's post on how to set up 'n repo for a release party? | 19:27 |
| Meesterarend | or maybe something similar | 19:28 |
| tumbleweed | Maaz: google release party mirror tumbleweed | 19:28 |
| Maaz | tumbleweed: "Release Party Ubuntu Mirror | Tumbleweed Rants" http://tumbleweed.org.za/2010/10/09/release-party-ubuntu-mirror :: "Tumbleweed Rants | Stefano's World" http://tumbleweed.org.za/ :: "ubuntu | Tumbleweed Rants" http://tumbleweed.org.za/tags/ubuntu :: "Recent posts | Tumbleweed Rants" http://tumbleweed.org.za/tracker :: "Portal:Tumbleweed - openSUSE" http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:Tumbleweed :: "The Satellite ยป Past Shows" http:// | 19:28 |
| tumbleweed | queery: ^ | 19:28 |
| Meesterarend | sound like fun Squirm | 19:28 |
| queery | hi thanx tumbleweed | 19:28 |
| magespawn | lol tumbleweed | 19:29 |
| magespawn | might take awhile they have a few videos | 19:29 |
| queery | I didn't know the keywords | 19:29 |
| Meesterarend | that is one clever bot | 19:29 |
| Squirm | HD videos don't play on my netbook :/ | 19:30 |
| queery | Maaz, botsnack | 19:30 |
| Maaz | Yay, at last someone thinks about me as well | 19:30 |
| Meesterarend | hhehehehehehe | 19:30 |
| Meesterarend | reincode it Squirm :) it might take a while though | 19:31 |
| Squirm | a while? | 19:31 |
| Squirm | lol | 19:31 |
| Meesterarend | I would not try it on a netbook | 19:31 |
| Squirm | 2min | 19:31 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: you said beta was released the other day, or is due to be released soon? | 19:32 |
| tumbleweed | superfly: released last thursday | 19:32 |
| Meesterarend | well i work on 60 min+ dvd quality and that take my desktop about 30 minutes | 19:33 |
| superfly | ah, OK\ | 19:33 |
| * superfly thinks it's his turn to upgrade | 19:33 | |
| tumbleweed | living on the edge? :) | 19:33 |
| Meesterarend | nah ubuntu releases aren't living on the edge | 19:34 |
| Meesterarend | for that you need to go fedora | 19:34 |
| Meesterarend | i think | 19:34 |
| tumbleweed | yeah, rawhide is fairly edgy | 19:35 |
| Meesterarend | I do not understand that people install fedora on a production system and expect it to work | 19:36 |
| Meesterarend | i've tested it long ago and did not even like it | 19:37 |
| magespawn | i thought it was okay tried 5 and then jumped to 13 i think | 19:43 |
| Meesterarend | I had to jump through to many hoops trying to get my sound working | 19:44 |
| Meesterarend | ubuntu worked better though | 19:44 |
| Meesterarend | still | 19:44 |
| Meesterarend | fedora are marked as a beta product for redhat an centos | 19:45 |
| Meesterarend | Mandriva was great | 19:45 |
| Meesterarend | and suse isn't bad either | 19:46 |
| Meesterarend | just not my cup of tea | 19:46 |
| magespawn | strangely enough it was the community that decided me, and the company behind ubuntu, and the amount of online documentation. | 19:49 |
| magespawn | overall usefulness | 19:49 |
| Meesterarend | hehhheeheheh | 19:49 |
| Meesterarend | yip | 19:49 |
| Meesterarend | I started when i had to get a terminal system up and running | 19:50 |
| magespawn | despite what happens or appears to happen on the lists | 19:50 |
| Meesterarend | did not work first time on windows | 19:50 |
| Meesterarend | got ubuntu | 19:50 |
| Meesterarend | 64bit did not work | 19:51 |
| Meesterarend | but i came closer to cracking it | 19:51 |
| Meesterarend | than a proffessor working with it every day | 19:51 |
| Meesterarend | i tried windows again | 19:52 |
| Meesterarend | and the system worked...seeing the hamer i hid in my toolbox | 19:52 |
| Meesterarend | but I realy was hooked on ubuntu by that time | 19:53 |
| magespawn | i still work with both | 19:53 |
| Meesterarend | Strange how first experiances can do something like that hey | 19:54 |
| magespawn | yep | 19:56 |
| Meesterarend | brb | 20:00 |
| magespawn | just watching neo fight seriph | 20:03 |
| magespawn | later all battery is dying | 20:03 |
| Meesterarend | bye | 20:03 |
| Meesterarend | gota work too | 20:03 |
| superfly | tumbleweed: always :-P | 20:06 |
| Squirm | meh | 20:59 |
| Squirm | getting there | 20:59 |
| inetpro | Eish! | 21:04 |
| inetpro | something telling me that 8ta is having DNS issues | 21:05 |
| Kerbero | no | 21:05 |
| Kerbero | the world is | 21:05 |
| Kerbero | http://it.slashdot.org/story/12/09/10/190247/godaddy-goes-down-anonymous-claims-responsibility | 21:05 |
| inetpro | Kerbero: ahh | 21:05 |
| inetpro | Yikes! | 21:05 |
| * inetpro didn't realise the impact | 21:05 | |
| Kerbero | everybody that uses godaddy's dns servers are having problems | 21:06 |
| inetpro | sjoe | 21:06 |
| inetpro | thanks Kerbero | 21:07 |
| Squirm | that's me too | 21:09 |
| Squirm | I can still ping my site htough | 21:09 |
| inetpro | looks like GoDaddy has hit instant fame | 21:11 |
| Squirm | yeah baby | 21:13 |
| Squirm | now just a mission installing everything | 21:26 |
| Squirm | thankfully I still have most of my configs for apps | 21:26 |
| * inetpro wonders what servers godaddy are using for DNS | 21:33 | |
| superfly | inetpro: Windows | 21:33 |
| inetpro | superfly: are you serious!? | 21:33 |
| superfly | yuhuh | 21:33 |
| inetpro | wow! | 21:33 |
| inetpro | superfly: where did you get that? | 21:34 |
| superfly | inetpro: read it long time ago... there was an "uproar" because a whole bunch of domains (parked ones, I think) that previously said they were on Linux hosts were now on Windows hosts, and it was apparently because GoDaddy moved to Windows | 21:35 |
| inetpro | eish! | 21:35 |
| superfly | I don't like GoDaddy's business practices, so I stay far away from them, but yeah... lots of people use them for DNS | 21:37 |
| Squirm | makes sense. I have a domain with them. use a different DNS service though | 21:39 |
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| superfly | Squirm: you mean you control your own nameservers? | 21:46 |
| superfly | or rather, your domain is on nameservers not at GoDaddy | 21:46 |
| Squirm | so I registered my .net domain through godaddy, but the NS is hosted elsewhere | 21:47 |
| superfly | right. I use Gandi.net for registering, and I also have separate nameservers | 21:49 |
| superfly | though I know Gandi uses Linux nameservers | 21:49 |
| Squirm | I'm with... | 21:51 |
| Squirm | Hostgator | 21:52 |
| Squirm | have a reseller account with them | 21:52 |
| Squirm | superfly: on a new system, what's the easiest way to get sound working? | 21:54 |
| superfly | Squirm: uh, sound has pretty much always worked for me | 21:54 |
| superfly | I used to uninstall PulseAudio, since it is a solution to a problem that doesn't exist, but these days the other apps expect pulseaudio :-( | 21:55 |
| Squirm | but from scratch? it works with a normal install | 21:55 |
| inetpro | Squirm: check with alsamixer | 21:55 |
| superfly | Squirm: I use Kubuntu, everything always just works | 21:55 |
| inetpro | maybe something is just muted | 21:55 |
| superfly | :-P | 21:55 |
| superfly | night peeps | 21:56 |
| Squirm | inetpro: yeah, I'm downloading it now | 21:56 |
| Squirm | Cannot open mixer: No such device or address | 21:56 |
| inetpro | eish! | 21:57 |
| inetpro | good luck | 21:57 |
| * inetpro goes sleeping | 21:57 | |
| inetpro | good night | 21:57 |
| Squirm | Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_ctl_pulse.so | 21:57 |
| Squirm | cannot open mixer: No such device or address | 21:57 |
| Squirm | :/ | 21:57 |
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