[00:06] <eafigg> hello everyone=)
[00:06] <eafigg> hoping someone can help me to get my wifi dongle working in ubuntu 12.04
[00:06] <eafigg> its a wg111t
[00:07] <fluzios> eafigg: would be fun if everyone in here decided to say hello back ^^
[00:08] <eafigg> fluzios, yea really
[00:09] <eafigg> fluzios, can ya offer any help in my situation?
[00:09] <hydester_> anybody know how to use /etc/hosts.allow for tomcat?  i prefer to do it at the os level
[00:10] <fluzios> eafigg: googling and reading about it, not so much info specificly for 12.04; and i got no driver install experience
[00:11] <fluzios> eafigg: maybe https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/WG111T
[00:11] <bhast2> well did a reinstall of Ubuntu to fix my video stuff
[00:12] <bhast2> Can't believe I had to do that to fix Nivida stuff
[00:12] <bekor> ng ready to reinstall  ubuntu 12.04 unless someone can tell me how to get media players to start working again banshee ,rythmbox movieplayer.nothing works
[00:12] <Box-AngrySpam98> Anybody know a place that i can advertise my channel? (##powdabomb2)
[00:12] <Box-AngrySpam98> :P
[00:13] <keruna>  i am trying to run pianobar. at login i get error: newtwork
[00:13] <keruna>                 error: TLS read faild. I have googled but not come up with
[00:13] <keruna>                 much. just wondered if any of that means anything to someone.
[00:13] <keruna>                 thx
[00:13] <FloodBot1> keruna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <subcool> can someone kinda assist me with mounting a NFS? im not familiar enough with the basic commands..
[00:13] <keruna>  i am trying to run pianobar. at login i get error: newtwork
[00:13] <keruna>                 error: TLS read faild. I have googled but not come up with
[00:13] <keruna>                 much. just wondered if any of that means anything to someone.
[00:13] <keruna>                 thx
[00:13] <FloodBot1> keruna: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:13] <ClientAlive> trying to set up aliases in .bash_aliases but it not working. Can someone please help?
[00:14] <ClientAlive> I've seen the tutorials online and everything looks to be right but still not working.
[00:14] <fluzios> ClientAlive: have you restarted the shell?
[00:14] <ClientAlive> I restarted the whole computer, is that sufficient?
[00:14] <ClientAlive> it tells me command not found
[00:14] <fluzios> 3 times i hope?
[00:14] <Box-AngrySpam98> Anybody know a place that i can advertise my channel? (##powdabomb2)
[00:15] <UbuntuBookPro> I started with a ~900 gig partition for Ubuntu. I've downloaded around 5 gigs, which Nautilus reports, but Nautilus also says I have only 700 gigs remaining. What's going on? [Ubuntu 12.04 on MacBookPro.]
[00:15] <papashou> hello what are you trying to dO?
[00:15] <ClientAlive> 3 times?
[00:15] <demonspork> ClientAlive: 3 time was a joke
[00:15] <fluzios> ClientAlive: can you pastebin .bash_aliases, .bashrc and maybe .bash_profile
[00:16] <ClientAlive> It says this: http://pastebin.com/h71kphvu
[00:16] <ClientAlive> sure I can - one moment
[00:17] <ClientAlive> please remind me how to run the pastebinit command - is it...   <command> | pastebinit  ?
[00:18] <fluzios> ClientAlive: or just check that you have this in your .bashrc http://pastebin.com/6qWx4VFk
[00:18] <fluzios> and yes
[00:18] <fluzios> cat .bashrc | pastebinit
[00:18] <subcool> how do i test to see if my NFS Host is properly setup?
[00:19] <ClientAlive> .bashrc here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195736/   and .bash_aliases here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195737/
[00:20] <fluzios> " instead of '
[00:20] <fluzios> first line last char
[00:20] <ClientAlive> I know one of my aliases has double quotes and that's wrong - I was testing
[00:21] <ClientAlive> but it is update='sudo apt-get update' that I try to run on the command line and get command not found
[00:21] <jrib> ClientAlive: you need to actually use the "alias" command
[00:21] <jrib> ClientAlive: (like all the examples in your ~/.bashrc)
[00:21] <ClientAlive> ohhh!!! I remember now! thank you thank you
[00:21] <fluzios> =)
[00:22] <tprice> can i use lvm on an install that was not instlled with lvm?
[00:22] <ClientAlive> how stupid of me - i've done this successfully before just forgot
[00:22] <Iron> hello, I have a new problem: Whenever i try to turn ubuntu off, it hangs on the shutting down screen. I have to force it to turn off.
[00:23] <zephyr> whats the default network tool when you finish the server installer?
[00:23] <ClientAlive> now how do you restart the shell without restarting the whole computer??  /etc/init.d/<something>  ??
[00:24] <tprice> anyone?
[00:24] <fluzios> ClientAlive: start a new window?
[00:24] <demonspork> ClientAlive: close the terminal window that you have open
[00:24] <demonspork> and open a new one
[00:24] <ClientAlive> oh. right one
[00:24] <fluzios> ClientAlive: also, when changing aliases you can just run: source .bash_aliases
[00:24] <ClientAlive> right on
[00:25] <papashou> Hello is there activity ?
[00:25] <ClientAlive> one last question. I saw someone wrote that if you put the aliases file in /etc/ and you name it something like bash.aliases.local it will then work for root and user. Does that sound right? How do you make it work for both root and user?
[00:28] <ClientAlive> yeah, because my aliases work ok as user but not if I log in as root (I sometimes work as root if I have a lot to do that requires admin privs).
[00:30] <subcool> how do i test to see if my NFS Host is properly setup?
[00:31] <ClientAlive> Anyone on how to make aliases work for both root and user with just one aliases file??
[00:32] <papashou> I am always logged into root, whenever I log into my boxens
[00:32] <papashou> I do have about 80 boxens for work.  It is glorious.
[00:32] <fluzios> ClientAlive: http://7enn.com/2011/02/20/how-to-make-your-bash-aliases-available-as-a-root-in-ubuntu/
[00:33] <ash_> Elow, what up anybody Online?
[00:33] <papashou> We're all online.  Whether we're here or not is debatable.
[00:33] <ClientAlive> oh. cool, thx
[00:33] <papashou> ClientAlive: what exactly are you trying to achieve?  You can always edit the /etc/profile script- that gets loaded by all userlogins
[00:33] <papashou> Or at least, usually does- on RHEL
[00:35] <jamster> help
[00:35] <blackshirt> what you need jamster
[00:35] <ClientAlive> omg that's so simple!  I occasionally log in as root to do the stuff I need to (when I have lots to do that needs admin priveledges) I want to use the same alias names to execute the same command but so it makes no difference if I log in as root or as user. So they work either way.
[00:36] <jamster> I have an external usd hard drive 500 gb how do I resize it for booting up from it? preceeding space or the other one in gparted
[00:37] <spartan> hi guys
[00:37] <jamster> I have the other space for the iso file of my hard drive ddrescue
[00:37] <blackshirt> you mean install on it jamster?
[00:37] <spartan> I was hoping someone could help me install cinnamon
[00:37] <jamster> no not an install
[00:37] <blackshirt> Hi spartan
[00:37] <blackshirt> Spartan, are you using mint?
[00:38] <jamster> a cloned back up of ubuntu from ddrescue blackshirt
[00:38] <Guest3924> I've install cinnamon before, however, I'm running the powerpc version of kubuntu
[00:38] <ClientAlive> fluzios: wouldn't it make more sense to switch the order of what's in those file (at the link you gave me)? To put what it say for /root/.bashrc into ~/.bashrc and put your .bash_aliases in /root  ??
[00:38] <ClientAlive> then you caould have any user be able to access them?
[00:39] <standarshy> Sorry for those name changes
[00:39] <blackshirt> jamster, sorry for my stupidity... I think You can do it
[00:40] <fluzios> ClientAlive: other users probably shouldn't have access to root's files
[00:41] <ClientAlive> oh, yeah. That makes sense. Just seemd like an odd way to set it up (what's at the link). I also thought about putting it /etc/.bash_aliases  then mod /root/.bashrc and ~/.bashrc accordingly. I suppose I may need to consider perms or other security measures if I did that though?
[00:44] <Aristide> GOod night o/
[00:45] <standarshy> Hi yall, can anyone here help me install cinnamon on powerpc?
[00:45] <fluzios> ClientAlive: putting it in /etc/bash.bash_aliases would probably be fine (i would recommend the bash prefix instead of just .bash_aliases)
[00:47] <ClientAlive> fluzios: ok. I think I should remove all perms from work too though. What do you think?
[00:47] <ClientAlive> I meant "world"
[00:48] <ClientAlive> make it to be -rw-r-----
[00:50] <subcool> Help with NFS Please...
[00:51] <subcool> i've edited the /etc/exports file
[00:51] <subcool> but when i try to start the server, i get erros
[00:51] <subcool> errors
[00:51] <randomDude> !enter
[00:52] <fluzios> ClientAlive: that's fine, and having read for all users shouldn't be a problem unless you put passwords or such in there
[00:52] <subcool> job-working-directory: error retrieving current directory: getcwd: cannot access parent directories: No such file or directory
[00:52] <intoubuntu> Anyone have an app idea they would like to see created for Ubuntu?
[00:52] <papashou> subcool:  what errors? -- make sure the directories exist.
[00:53] <papashou> do an ls -lad on the directory you've specified in /etc/exports
[00:53] <subcool> papashou, the directory exists
[00:53] <ClientAlive> cool
[00:53] <papashou> then ensure that the service has perm to read every directory above it.
[00:53] <papashou> in fact, it needs +x to it.
[00:54] <subcool> papashou, uh ...
[00:54] <subcool> drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 Sep  8 00:13 .
[00:54] <papashou> that dir is?
[00:54] <Kinks> Hi. Does anyone know if there is a way to invert screen colors in Ubuntu 12.04?
[00:54] <subcool> Im just sharing mounted External HDD"s - they are apart of the Media directory
[00:54] <Kinks> I tried to activate the compiz effect but it seems not to work with Unity
[00:55] <intoubuntu> Any interest in staring an open source Python application in Python?
[00:55] <papashou> lets say you have /some/path/media
[00:56] <papashou> hem some mesgs didn't' go thru
[00:56] <papashou> lets say you have /some/path/media - you need to make sure /some and /some/path also have +x permission to the NFS service user (probably root)
[00:57] <Kinks> just found a way. Let me share: "xcalib -invert -alter"
[00:58] <jerry_l> hello
[00:58] <subcool> papashou, well, i had /media/HDD set for NFS- but then realized all my HDD's are in the Media directory, so i just removed the HDD part and left it so my entire "/media" directory is shared.. now my server is running.
[00:58] <Meris> High time for bed, thanks for the nice atmosphere...
[00:58] <subcool> how do i change the folders beneath /media to +x
[01:00] <ClientAlive> fluzio: I must not be doing this right. I'm having a bit of trouble recognizing the pattern at the link you shared and applying it to what I was experimenting with.
[01:00] <papashou> are your external drives loading up as the currently logged in user?  e.g.  "subcool:subcool" ?
[01:01] <subcool> papashou, got me
[01:01] <papashou> open a term and type "ls -la /media"
[01:01] <subcool> yea, they r.
[01:01] <papashou> quite honestly i can't envision it right now because i'm on Mac OSX- i'm currently rebuilding my Ubuntu machine.
[01:02] <papashou> does it have +x on the third set of bits ?
[01:02] <subcool> im trying to build a OSx86 device..
[01:02] <subcool> papashou, no
[01:03] <papashou> then that is why.
[01:03] <pepperjack> you want to recursively change everything under /media to be executable?  that seems a little drastic
[01:03] <subcool> but at the same time- now that there arent any errors on the server side, i still cant add them to the client.
[01:03] <papashou> no, the NFS server won't complain at all.  it just won't see it.
[01:04] <subcool> it was complaining at first
[01:04] <subcool> thats now i got the error
[01:04] <ash_> UBUNTU is Updating
[01:04] <papashou> you can edit the /etc/fstab file to mount it with a certain umask
[01:05] <papashou> so we can read/write it on NFS.
[01:05] <papashou> or if you just want read permission
[01:05] <subcool> i was reading about the fstab
[01:06] <subcool> right now im using the mount option-
[01:06] <papashou> so if you plug it in- it will automatically mount it, usually, thanks to udev
[01:06] <subcool> but- it when i run the command, nothing happens.
[01:06] <papashou> unless you're using an old ubuntu or not a ubuntu flavor
[01:06] <fluzios> ClientAlive: maybe easier to just copy the files, and update both manualy
[01:07] <subcool> papashou, well, with the hell ive been getting from ubuntu- i might move on pretty soon.
[01:07] <subcool> but, not JUSt yet..
[01:07] <papashou> you need to do umount; then mount -o umask=022 /device /path (for example)
[01:08] <subcool> ive been doing... as per the 5 guides ive been boucning off of
[01:08] <papashou> yes you may call ubuntu hell, but as far as Linux goes, it's very automatic, and does more for its user than most other flavors.
[01:08] <papashou> as root? or sudo?
[01:08] <subcool> sudo mount 192.168.2.5:/media /home/subcool/NetworkDrives/Storage
[01:08] <Nogal> Hey there, I've got a quick question... How do I set up a network bridge-like setup for a setup like this: <client> LAN <laptop> WLAN <router>   ... which retains internet access on the laptop as well as the client computer?
[01:08] <subcool> papashou, yea, thats why i came to them to begin with. but now they are acting like mandriva..
[01:08] <ClientAlive> fluzios: yes and no. My intention is to sync these file between two computer once I have it set up on the one. I was hoping to centrally locat the aliases file then sync it and both of the .bashrc files.
[01:09] <papashou> subcool: you need to mount it properly on the server side
[01:09] <ClientAlive> I just don't get how to modify the function do they call it a function in bash?) that's in the .bashrc files.
[01:09] <papashou> sudo mount 192.168.2.5….etc is the client side and you'er fine there
[01:09] <subcool>  it just stalls
[01:10] <papashou> on HOST 192.168.2.5- what is the content of /etc/exports
[01:10] <Grivvel> Heya! I'm having a problem with 12.04 on my Acer Aspire Revo. The audio-in (microphone) device doesn't show up in any of the GUI device managers and doesn't seem to work. I've tried searching google, but haven't been able to find any solutions. Does anyone know where to go from here?
[01:10] <jeep> i love nfs its one of the greatout *nixest things ab
[01:10] <subcool> papashou, /media *(rw,sync,no_root_squash,no_subtree_check)
[01:10] <papashou> OK,  on a device below /media
[01:11] <papashou> on that same host- what is the permission?
[01:12] <subcool> ls -la /media
[01:12] <subcool>  drwx------ 11 subcool subcool  4096 Aug 23 01:18 Storage
[01:12] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Could someone help me with something? My desktop as 2 drives. On one drive, I have a fresh copy of windows xp. I would like to install ubuntu on the other drive but can't seem to get it to work. I created a partition on the blank drive for ubuntu and selected the 'ext 4' filesystem (it was default). It keeps asking me to set a root when I click install though. I selected '/boot' from the list
[01:12] <Dark-Magician-Gi> and it still says I need to select one.
[01:12] <papashou> so do "sudo chmod +x /media/Storage
[01:12] <papashou> "
[01:12] <fluzios> ClientAlive: The bashrc just checks if a alias file exists, then "load" it
[01:12] <papashou> sorry.. chmod ugo+x Storage
[01:13] <papashou> then a service nfsd restart (or /etc/init.d/nfsd restart)
[01:13] <ash_> is there any way to remove that bar on the left? and put it into default mode? i am on ubuntu 12.04
[01:13] <subcool> papashou, i already ran the previous command, how do i fix it
[01:13] <papashou> been in RHEL mode lately so .. one of those should ork
[01:13] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: so your question is what is root ?
[01:13] <Dark-Magician-Gi> By the way, I checked the installation guide but it doesn't mention the step(s) I'm having trouble with.
[01:13] <papashou> ugo+x ?
[01:13] <ClientAlive> fluzios: ok, then I had the .bashrc right the first time but got a permission denied for some reason
[01:14] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Well, I guess I'm not sure what I should choose for filesystem and root during the installation process at the partition manager screen.
[01:14] <Dark-Magician-Gi> On my Windows xp installation it says the filesystem is ntfs.
[01:14] <subcool> papashou, no- i ran chmod +x before u corrected urself.
[01:14] <Nogal> Hey there, I've got a quick question... How do I set up a network bridge-like setup for a setup like this: <client> LAN <laptop> WLAN <router>   ... which retains internet access on the laptop as well as the client computer?
[01:14] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: you need at minimum two partititons on /dev/sdb one large one for / and another greater than amount of ram you have for swap
[01:15] <papashou> you need ugo+x (or at least a chmod 0755)
[01:15] <fluzios> ClientAlive: probably owner/group mismatch, +r for all users should help
[01:15] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: /dev/sda will be your windows
[01:15] <subcool> papashou, i did ugo+x - nothing changed..
[01:15] <ash_> To enable root on Ubuntu sudo passwd root  :) put password and to login as root type = su (Put password)
[01:15] <papashou> then restart nfsd ?
[01:16] <ClientAlive> fluzios: right now the perms on /etc/.bash_aliases is "-rw-r-----"
[01:16] <subcool> papashou,
[01:16] <subcool> papashou, yea
[01:16] <lesce> hey guys , I have a very strange problem , I can't get gnome terminal to start with zsh ... anyone else encounter this ?
[01:16] <papashou> service iptables status ?
[01:16] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Yeah, that is my Windows. So, for /dev/sdb, I should create two partitions: The first for '/' and the second for 'swap'? I have 1gb ram so anything more than that will be okay for swap?
[01:16] <ClientAlive> oh! but the owner and group are root for some reason. Do they have to be owned by my user name?
[01:17] <jrib> lesce: nope
[01:17] <jrib> lesce: (how are you trying)
[01:17] <fluzios> ClientAlive: group should be some group that you are in
[01:17] <subcool> papashou, was that to me? - iptables unrecognized command
[01:17] <ash_> did somebody try Macbuntu ?
[01:17] <lesce> my defaul shell is zsh and I've added in gnome-terminal's preferences /bin/zsh as custom commands
[01:17] <fluzios> ClientAlive: or just -rw-r--r--
[01:17] <jrib> !ot | ash_
[01:17] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: make your swap 1.5 gig or so  and how big is the rest of the space ?
[01:18] <Dark-Magician-Gi> 230-240 gig iirc.
[01:18] <jrib> lesce: what happens when you revert the gnome-terminal settings to default?
[01:18] <papashou> yes, sub cool;  `service iptables status`
[01:18] <lesce> jrib, same thing
[01:18] <ash_> i wanted to know did somebody try MACUBUNTU or blackubuntu?
[01:18] <subcool> papashou, unrecognized command
[01:18] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: make a /home partition of 180 gig and / partition the rest
[01:19] <ClientAlive> fluzio: got it man. Thank you. (I did do a chown user:user /etc/.bash_aliases   though)
[01:19] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: keeping /home seperate partition will allow you to keep files and such easily
[01:19] <lesce> jrib, the weired part is the process appears to be zsh if I ps aux it .. but the prompt is exactly as the bash prompt
[01:19] <lesce> it works if I run zsh manualy
[01:20] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Those are the only 3 roots I need to worry about then?
[01:20] <lesce> the prompt changes to my zsh prompt
[01:20] <jrib> lesce: what exactly happens when you start gnome-terminal?
[01:20] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi:  only root /
[01:21] <DeSantis> -
[01:21] <papashou_> subcool: you've got nfs-server installed right?
[01:21] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: there are many ways to do partitions for different goals however the one i just gave you will be fine for a desktop user
[01:21] <Grivvel> Does anyone know why I might be missing an audio-in device that's actually there? Is there any way to see where it's being lost?
[01:21] <Dark-Magician-Gi> What should I choose for filesystem? For my xp installation it says the filesystem is ntfs but that isn't an option in the filesystem meny.
[01:21] <lesce> jrib, it shows the bash prompt
[01:21] <ClientAlive> yup! Works like a champ for both root and user   :)
[01:21] <subcool> papashou, yea
[01:21] <Dark-Magician-Gi> menu*
[01:22] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: use ext4
[01:22] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Okay.
[01:22] <papashou_> how about; /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server status
[01:22] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Thanks. I'm going to go give it a try.
[01:22] <lesce> jrib, I'll make a pastebin
[01:22] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: make sure you dont partition/format /dev/sda you wil lose windows
[01:22] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Yeah, I know. :p
[01:22] <jrib> lesce: how did you change your default shell?
[01:22] <papashou_> or `service nfs-kernel-server status`
[01:22] <subcool> papashou, nfsd running
[01:22] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: when you get to the grub install make sure to put it on /dev/sda
[01:23] <Dark-Magician-Gi> What's grub install?
[01:23] <lesce> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195801/
[01:23] <lesce> jrib, chsh
[01:23] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: grub is the boot loader putting it on /dev/sda will allow you to pick windows or linux when you boot
[01:23] <lesce> jrex, echo $SHELL -> /bin/zsh
[01:23] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Okay.
[01:23] <lesce> jrib, echo $SHELL -> /bin/zsh
[01:23] <papashou> OK and   you're able to ping the NFS server from the client trying to mount it?
[01:24] <jrib> lesce: what you just pastebinned doesn't show an instance of bash running...
[01:24] <jeep> Dark-Magician-Gi: its one of the next future steps of the installer
[01:24] <subcool> papashou, pings are rejected, but- im ssh'ed in
[01:24] <lesce> jrib, that's weired about it
[01:24] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Okay, I'm going to go give it a try now.
[01:24] <subcool> papashou, good point- whats the port?
[01:24] <lesce> jrib, the prompt is exactly like the bash prompt
[01:24] <jrib> lesce: well... check if it's zsh with your bash prompt
[01:25] <lesce> jrib, you can see the promp changes when I run zsh
[01:25] <papashou> hfs ports i recall are 111 and 2049
[01:25] <placek> How safe is GTK orphan?
[01:25] <lesce> jrib, so there shouldn't be any problem with loading the oh_my_zsh theme
[01:25] <subcool> papashou, let me see if opening them up helps
[01:25] <jrib> lesce: I don't care about the theme at the moment.  I care about whether you are running zsh or not
[01:26] <subcool> papashou, that may have worked :)
[01:26] <papashou> ya?  ports issue?
[01:26] <subcool> i just ran the mount command, and it went right back to prompt
[01:26] <subcool> running df -h now on clent
[01:26] <papashou> ok so do a 'df -h'
[01:27] <papashou> should show remote client, etc
[01:27] <subcool> YEP!!!
[01:27] <subcool> u rock!!!
[01:27] <skroot> im running a pptp server on my ubuntu box. how do i login from windows, what username format?
[01:27] <subcool> totally forgot about my firewall
[01:27] <lesce> jrib, yes it's running
[01:27] <lesce> lesce@lesce-desktop:~% ps aux | grep zsh
[01:27] <papashou> always the last thing we check- it gets me everytime
[01:27] <lesce> lesce     3979  0.0  0.1  47492  5208 pts/1    Ss   04:20   0:00 zsh
[01:27] <subcool> running nfs should be a lot fast than ftp and anything else right? but- it will only be visable via linux?
[01:27] <lesce> jrib, then why isn't it loading my zshrc file
[01:28] <jrib> lesce: are you running it as a login shell?
[01:28] <GTRsdk> What's the name of the app that makes it easy to connect to network printers?
[01:28] <lesce> jrib, yes
[01:28] <bkc_> !"enter"
[01:28] <subcool> ugh- i have access to the drive, but nothign inside of it.. lol
[01:28] <papashou> it'll be visible to any client able to mount NFS
[01:29] <papashou> yeah that's probably permission at that point
[01:29] <subcool> but did that cog something fix that?
[01:29] <papashou> need +x on every directory leading up to it
[01:29] <jrib> lesce: why?  .zshrc won't get executed for login shells unless you call it from ~/.zprofile (or similar)
[01:29] <subcool> what do u mean leading up to it?
[01:30] <papashou> means if /directoryA/directoryB/directoryC is the one you want to share
[01:30] <papashou> and directoryC has ugo+x but directoryB and directoryA does not, it will not work
[01:30] <subcool> thats annoying- these folders are huge-
[01:30] <papashou> directoryA/B/C all need to have the "+x" (execute) permission set for O (or the user/group in question)
[01:30] <subcool> they are my archives
[01:30] <GTRsdk> iirc, you had to go to something like "Printing" to get to that program... anyone know the name of it?
[01:31] <jrib> !who | subcool, papashou (and please go easy on your enter key)
[01:32] <lesce> jrib, it's the same thing even if I uncheck running as a login shell
[01:32] <joejack> my wireless is not locking in, but it was and all of a sudden it can't
[01:32] <papashou> jrib: is it that much of an issue?
[01:32] <jrib> papashou: in a channel with so many users, it's very helpful, yes
[01:32] <subcool> papashou,  sudo chmod ugo+x /media/StorageX2/ doesnt do anything.
[01:32] <papashou> jrib: if so, I will just take it to private chat- then no one can benefit.
[01:34] <jrib> lesce: then I'd suggest you clear your zsh-related ~/.z* files and start with something simple to troubleshoot
[01:34] <Eddie11> Anyone know how to enable sound card? I have a audigy sound card with Ubuntu 10.04 OS arecord -l sees card as well as aplay -l?
[01:34] <ClientAlive> anyone here familiar wtih using unison? I'm trying to figure out how to make it sync just a file alone (not a whole directory). When I go to create a profile in it for that (using the gui) it doesn't look like I can do that.
[01:34] <jrib> ClientAlive: I just create the profiles by hand (have you read the documentation?)
[01:34] <ClientAlive> can if follow symlinks if I make a directory and just link to to those file in that directory?
[01:34] <joejack> anyone want to help me troubleshoot my wireless/
[01:34] <subcool> papashou, since i need EVERYTHIGN in /media accessable, should i just do chmod +x *.*
[01:35] <papashou> a  "chmod +x" only makes owner executable
[01:35] <ClientAlive> jrib: not entirely. (I really struggle to do so much reading - I'm a hands on guy)  :(
[01:35] <papashou> NFSD may need Other (world) executable
[01:35] <jrib> ClientAlive: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/download/releases/stable/unison-manual.html#pathspec I guess is what you want to read
[01:35] <papashou> subcool: see your chat
[01:35] <Eddie11> Anyone know how to enable sound card? I have a audigy sound card with Ubuntu 10.04 OS arecord -l sees card as well as aplay -l?
[01:36] <lesce> jrib, thanks a lot :) , found the problem it seams it wouldn't load my custom theme , changed the theme and it works fine . thanks again for your time
[01:36] <jrib> lesce: no problem
[01:36] <bkc_> Eddie11: hw:device=1
[01:36] <ClientAlive> like, for instance, I'd like to create a profile that syncs my aliases but that involves 3 files total on the machine. I wish I could have one profile that syncs those 3 files all in one profile.
[01:36] <ash_> Had spmebpdy ever try to install security tool  on ubuntu? such as backtrack tool ?
[01:36] <Eddie11> bkc_, ?
[01:37] <jrib> ash_: I'm sure many have
[01:37] <jrib> ClientAlive: you can
[01:37] <bkc_> Eddie11: you need to add a few lines to .asoundrc... w8 a sec and I'll upload mine...
[01:38] <ClientAlive> jfib: oh yeah, I have that page open - just hard for me to understand anything by the time I read all of it (this is a problem for me and is why come asking people around for help to just do it).
[01:38] <jrib> ClientAlive: You can just have a bunch of "path = /some/path" lines
[01:38] <bkc_> Eddie11: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Set_the_default_sound_card <-- It's for arch, but the same applies for linux
[01:38] <ash_> i give a try :) soon
[01:38] <ash_> and give feedback
[01:38] <ash_> :P
[01:38] <bkc_> Eddie11: any linux-dist using alsa*
[01:39] <ClientAlive> jrib: sounds like I need to look at how to create these profiles by hand then.
[01:39] <Eddie11> bkc_, Yeah I though it might be alsa pulse problem but i'll check that
[01:40] <jrib> ClientAlive: start with one of the "sample profiles" in the documentation, understand each line, then add and subtract to it
[01:40] <bkc_> ooh... you have pulse installed? then you should use pulseaudios setup...
[01:40] <ClientAlive> that sounds like a good approach for me. thx
[01:41] <bkc_> Eddie11: nvm that last comment, pulse uses alsa as backend..
[01:41] <TeamRocket1233c> Back!
[01:41] <bhast2> blah anyone know a good site that does reviews on programs for linux
[01:41] <bkc_> o/
[01:42] <bkc_> bhast2: google?
[01:42] <bhast2> haha
[01:42] <bhast2> did that
[01:42] <bkc_> then you did it wrong :)
[01:42] <bkc_> there is no "one site to rule them all"... some sites review some programs, other review other programs...
[01:42] <bkc_> s/rule/review/
[01:43] <TeamRocket1233c> bhast2: Dediomedo?
[01:43] <bhast2> haha
[01:43] <bhast2> I will check that out
[01:44] <bhast2> for this http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/
[01:44] <TeamRocket1233c> bhast2: I mean Dedoimedo reviews everything computer-related.
[01:44] <TeamRocket1233c> bhast2: Linux, Windows, BSD, don't matter.
[01:44] <bhast2> yeah I will check that out looks nice
[01:44] <bhast2> thanks
[01:46] <TeamRocket1233c> http://www.dedoimedo.com/ if you're interested.
[01:47] <Iron> hello, did i get any replies to my problem, with the computer that freezes on shutdown?
[01:48] <NicolasCage> Hi, my screen flickers for a second and everything becomes slow.
[01:48] <Eddie11> Anyone know how to enable sound card? I have a audigy sound card with Ubuntu 10.04 OS arecord -l sees card as well as aplay -l?
[01:49] <Bizman> hi everyone
[01:50] <Bizman> hi funkyb
[01:50] <funkyb> is it possible to do a real iinstall ubuntu to a usb stick (v3, 32GB), i.e. not a LIVE USB + persistance?  Also, does doing so risk screwing up the bootloader of the machine you use to do this?
[01:50] <funkyb> hi Bizman
[01:50] <Bizman> this is my first time
[01:50] <Bizman> using this
[01:51] <xangua> funkyb: just select to install in the usb stick
[01:51] <Eddie11> Anyone know how to enable sound card? I have a audigy sound card with Ubuntu 10.04 OS arecord -l sees card as well as aplay -l?
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> funkyb, Yes it is possible and safe if you use the something else option and make sure the grub bootloader is pointed at the usb's mbr.
[01:52] <funkyb> Will doing so screw up the boot loader of the desktop (Win 7 machine) that i use for this process?  The whole purpose is to have a 'portable' usb ubuntu, with large persistance, that is not a ramdisc.
[01:52] <Iron> How do I stop ubuntu from freezing when i shut down?
[01:52] <funkyb> ok, wilee-nilee, I will (nervously) give it a shot
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> funkyb, persistance is a termed used with a ISO Load as well.
[01:52] <NicolasCage> is it a good idea to use an external hard drive for a linux long-term linux (kubuntu) installation?
[01:53] <jeep> funkyb: pay attetntion which drive is what
[01:53] <jeep> NicolasCage: for storage or the whole os ?
[01:53] <funkyb> jeep, agreed, although i'm not sure I'll be 100% clear on what I'm looking for, and where to find it.  I vaguely recall an "advanced" button in the partitioner that allows grub options.
[01:53] <funkyb> been a few...
[01:53] <NicolasCage> I have no internal hdd now, its an old IDE connection and cant buy any in the shops. jeep: for my main OS.
[01:54] <wilee-nilee> NicolasCage, It will run slower the transfer of the data unless it is a usb3 will be slower then an internal, even a usb3 I believe is slightly slower.
[01:55] <NicolasCage> Hmm, well I know what you mean wilee-nilee, I am running this installation off a USB disk now, but I want  a more permanent solution. It s quite slow as it is alright. usb 2.0
[01:55] <Iron> NicolasCage, in my opinion. It is NOT a bad idea. Just keep in mind that it will technically be a bit slower than sata 2 or 3 internal decent hdd.
[01:55] <jeep> NicolasCage: it will work .. just be slow
[01:55] <wilee-nilee> funkyb, The advanced option is called something else at the where to put ubuntu gui, this is a manul install, ask questions if needed once you get there.
[01:55] <Iron> try it out, if it's not too slow for you, then all is good.
[01:56] <Iron> why does my computer freeze on the shutting down screen
[01:56] <NicolasCage> also, these external drives in the shop. even if it says windows only, still could I not just use it for a linux install?
[01:57] <Iron> Yes, you will reformat and repartition the drives to what linux likes (ext 4, root, home etc whatever you need).
[01:57] <Iron> I mean, Repartition and reformat.
[01:58] <NicolasCage> okay Iron thanks. I just dont want to waste 150 euro on this, and find out it's not  along term solution. this 16gb usb is getting old. 67% used now, rofl.
[01:58] <Iron> It might be a good idea to do the following: Have a partition formatted to NTFS, that way, you can copy data to the driver using windows and still access it with linux. Keep in mind the NTFS partition will only be usd to store stuff between windows and linux, all other linux data and user stuff should be on ext4 or ext3 partitions.
[01:58] <Iron> You could consider getting a 64GB usb instead.
[01:59] <Iron> or an external ssd.
[01:59] <NicolasCage> But a magnetic disk drive is better isn't it, for long term?
[01:59] <NicolasCage> I've heard these USB drives start to go into RAW mode, reformatting themselves.
[01:59] <wilee-nilee> solid state and disc drives now have the same lifetimes
[02:00] <Iron> If you are talking about drives dying, SSDs that have an os that supports TRIM, will last long enough until your next upgrade.
[02:00] <NicolasCage> hmm.
[02:00] <Iron> i.e. 10 years is about average
[02:00] <linus> all drives fail eventaully it is guaranteed
[02:00] <NicolasCage> 10 years for a usb stick @ iron?
[02:00] <Iron> well, the 1000 rewrites is only complete rewrites of that section, they tend to cheat a little.
[02:00] <GraemeLion> Most USB sticks will likely last less
[02:00] <Iron> Just don't do a full format on an SSD, or you will literally cook it.
[02:01] <Iron> either way, you should get at least 2 years (if less, warranty) on a good quality USB.
[02:01] <NicolasCage> lol. what? I have formatted it many times.
[02:01] <Iron> quick format or full format?
[02:01] <NicolasCage> quick I think
[02:01] <Iron> yeah quick is fine
[02:01] <NicolasCage> I'm not sure.
[02:01] <Iron> it's the default
[02:01] <bazhang> Iron, NicolasCage take the hardware talk to ##hardware or #ubuntu-offtopic please
[02:02] <Iron> alright, I'll talk in offtopic
[02:03] <Iron> anyway, simply put: Provided you get a good enough quality, it will last long enough. That's the last I'll say
[02:03] <failingkid> anyone code in perl
[02:04] <blackshirt> not yet
[02:04] <bazhang> failingkid, try the perl channel
[02:04] <failingkid> yeah but everyone seems to be idle there atm
[02:04] <failingkid> ofc i can wait
[02:16] <LibertyTrader> Is it easy to install 3.4 kernel on ubuntu 12.04?
[02:16] <Treaver> Hello, quick question : On Ubuntu One Music can I stream music that I want to stream, like any song? Can I save those songs in cache to listen later?
[02:16] <LibertyTrader> I have ivy bridge graphics so the kernel is important
[02:16] <blackshirt> yes...
[02:17] <tucemiux> how do I tell how much memory I have using the command line?
[02:18] <blackshirt> tucemiux, free -m
[02:18] <bazhang> Treaver, asked in #ubuntuone yet?
[02:19] <rsvp> why on earth is awk symlinked to 1996 mawk ??? This is horrible.
[02:19] <tucemiux> blackshirt, Mem:          3961 , that's 4 gigs?!? UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:20] <jrib> rsvp: sudo update-alternatives --config awk
[02:20] <blackshirt> tucemiux, maybe better you can post full output
[02:20] <i7c> tucemiux: mem in the total column tells your phyiscal ram
[02:21] <tucemiux> i7c, i never checked but i always though my 8 gigs of ram would show up in ubuntu o.O
[02:22] <rsvp> jrib, one should install the "gawk" package first ! For the sake, of just a mere 200 KB of additional code .
[02:22] <i7c> tucemiux: are you on 64bit ubuntu?
[02:22] <tucemiux> i7c,  UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[02:23] <blackshirt> that was 64 bit linux
[02:23] <wujie> deepin linux .made in china ,http://imagebin.org/227845
[02:23] <i7c> tucemiux: mhm weird. i have 6GB and works perfectly
[02:24] <tucemiux> i7c, im going to have to shut down and see what the BIOS sees, good night!
[02:24] <blackshirt> good morning
[02:24] <i7c> tucemiux: night, good luck
[02:25] <rsvp> mawk is terrible -- if one discovers that extended regex is not supported -- it simply fails.
[02:27] <anubis_> what would you guys recommend for a light weight linux distro?  i've tried crunchband and puppy linux but those are too lightweight (if that makes any sense) lol
[02:27] <anubis_> crunchbang*
[02:27] <blackshirt> anubis, debian
[02:28] <IdleOne> anubis_: Please don't take polls in this channel. Try Lubuntu
[02:28] <somsip> anubis_: minimal ubuntu, then add what you need
[02:28] <utops> anubis,Slackware ;)
[02:28] <anubis_> oh sorry...didnt know that was a poll.  but ok, thanksf for the input
[02:28] <anubis_> ill give them a shot!
[02:30] <usuario> r
[02:30] <rking> Hi guys. I used to use Debian a good bit, but now I'm trying to help a buddy upgrade his Ubuntu install on a chroot in Android.  We found http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/binary-armhf/ , and his /etc/apt/sources.list currently says: deb http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ karmic main universe — what should we change it to?
[02:31] <bazhang> !eolupgrades | rking
[02:32] <Nateman254> is someone on?
[02:32] <jeep> Nateman254: yes
[02:33] <Nateman254> ok, so i'm trying to get the ubuntu linux setup on my usb, but i need help
[02:33] <jeep> Nateman254: sorry you used your one question for the day already
[02:33] <bazhang> !behelpful | jeep
[02:33] <kbrosnan> Nateman254: set up a bootable usb drive to install ubuntu?
[02:33] <Anusien> When I fullscreen mplayer or vlc, the display gets jerky (although the audio plays fine), but it's fine windowed. This seems to be a problem on all -vo modes for a variety of different video types. I'm using the radeon open source drivers. CPU and RAM are both fine.
[02:34] <Nateman254> ok, not funny... I really need help!
[02:34] <jeep> Nateman254: to install to usb or use a usb stick to do install to computer ?
[02:34] <jeep> bazhang: im always helpful!
[02:35] <bazhang> jeep, this is NOT the jokes channel.
[02:35] <Nateman254> no, download to usb stick so i can transfer to another computer
[02:35] <Guest55458> How can I use an external monitor connected via display port on my laptop. The "Displays" application is not detecting it.
[02:36] <rking> bazhang: Hrm. This page seems to get up to the point of 9.10, but then stops there, not describing to get from there to 12.04
[02:36] <jeep> Nateman254: like you want the usb stick to run a install ? or your trying to mirror an install on multiple computers
[02:37] <Nateman254> ??? i'm trying to download the install to my usb so that i may install it to another computer... walking the usb over to it
[02:37] <jeep> Nateman254: i suggest using a program called unetbootin
[02:38] <Nateman254> ???
[02:38] <IdleOne> !usb | Nateman254
[02:38] <IdleOne> Nateman254: you want to follow that first link in the info ubottu just gave
[02:38] <forbidden404> Hey, there, I installed Ubuntu 12.10 today but I can't open it with normal graphics, I think it's a problem with Xorg (actually I know there is a problem with Xorg), but I can't solve it, can you guys help me? This is my logs > http://paste.ubuntu.com/1195838/
[02:39] <Nateman254> kk ty will do
[02:40] <forbidden404> I'm on Ubuntu 12.10 right now using nomodeset, but that's all, I can't enter in any other way
[02:44] <adie> would I have any issue moving my ubuntu install between different computers?
[02:44] <adie> I am wondering if I could boot up my disk in a virtual machine without messing up configuration stuff
[02:47] <weiyang> can i use dmsetup to setup the multipath device?
[02:47] <cardboard> Hello #ubuntu Any one know how I would consolidate lines in my IPtables script? right now it looks like this http://pastebin.com/uUsJdgFW    I figure that quite a few lines are not needed and that I could take out the entire center chunk if I just knew how... Any ideas?
[02:50] <weiyang> cardboard, what's the problem?
[02:50] <weiyang> cardboard, iptables -I wanout -s 192.168.1.9 -j ACCEPT this means what?
[02:50] <cardboard> ohh
[02:51] <cardboard> yeh it tells iptables not to count that ip in the filter
[02:51] <cardboard> it says dont enforce rules on this ip
[02:51] <cardboard> I was wondering if some how I could say something like 192.168.1.2. - 192.168.1.x
[02:52] <cardboard> So I would be doing it in one line of commands rather then 1 line for each command
[02:52] <randomDude> like irc?
[02:54] <weiyang> cardboard, -I wanout, I didn't see this chain
[02:55] <forbidden404> Is there any ATI driver for Quantal 3.5?
[02:56] <bazhang> forbidden404, #ubuntu+1 for 12.10 support and discussion
[02:58] <nateman254> ok, so i need some more help...
[02:58] <nateman254> i have the iso, but what now?
[02:59] <nateman254> hello?
[02:59] <drupin> i installed have installed ubuntustudio on pendrive with help of pendrivelinux.com installer
[02:59] <drupin> but i cannot install apps in it
[02:59] <MonkeyDust> nateman254  put the iso on a cd or stick, boot from that cd or stick
[03:00] <forbidden404> bazhang, thank you, I didn't know it
[03:01] <nateman254> how??? it's too big. it's 700k kb
[03:02] <MonkeyDust> nateman254  http://unetbootin.sourceforge.net/
[03:03] <MonkeyDust> read and learn
[03:07] <bawf> Is system monitor the only way to show the process list. Is there anyway to get a more readable list that shows only the stuff u would see in Alt +Tab?
[03:07] <MonkeyDust> bawf  try ps -e
[03:07] <bawf> no
[03:08] <bawf> I'm think about adding a tab to gnome-system-monitor. One that would show "active" processes in a readable manner (Title names)
[03:09] <bawf> I don't wanna waste my time if it's done somewhere
[03:09] <MonkeyDust> bawf  you can submit the idea in !brainstorm
[03:10] <bawf> I found that the idea was submitted a far back as 2008, but a mod closed the thread. There's no info there
[03:10] <bawf> Didn't there use to be a "Windows" tab?
[03:11] <Exodeus> in what?
[03:11] <bawf> I think system monitor
[03:12] <Exodeus> not that i can recall... there is a process tab tho
[03:13] <bawf> with messy cryptic processes that the user shouldnt be greeted with
[03:15] <Exodeus> very true.... i wouldnt go messing around with it if you dont somewhat know whats up
[03:17] <bawf> Does anyone remember a "windows" dialog? It may have been when trying to logout with apps running
[03:23] <bawf> I forgot, is there a GUI app hardware profiler that gives info like lspci does?
[03:27] <crimsonmane> bawf: "system profiler"
[03:28] <bawf> Why isn't that installed by default?
[03:31] <neeta> #haskell
[03:31] <jerlyn> nice days
[03:31] <crimsonmane> bawf: it is, on other distros like Linux Mint XFCE
[03:31] <bawf> So much for "Linux for Human beings"
[03:32] <ClientAlive> jrib: you still here?
[03:35] <jerlyn> c u guys
[03:35] <ClientAlive> Anyone here familiar with unison? I'm reading the manual, testing stuff and looking into it's files but sonething doesn't make sense.
[03:36] <student> haha
[03:36] <ClientAlive> I thought that it stored it's profiles in the file ~/.unison/default.prf  I created a test profile, verified that it works, then did a less ~/.unison/defult.prf and that file is still empty. What gives?
[03:38] <student> what
[03:39] <student> hello
[03:39] <ClientAlive> ahh. I see it now...   :)
[03:45] <leonardo_> dsgfg
[03:46] <leonardo_> hola!
[03:46] <wan26> khklh
[03:46] <leonardo_> ??
[03:47] <leonardo_> Hola
[03:47] <leonardo_> estoy pro. ubuntu
[03:47] <TJ-> !es | leonardo_
[03:48] <daemongpl> lol
[03:51] <daemongpl> What is a good source to learn the run levels? I want to know what happens when I press the power button.. Bios > Grub > runlevels to xwindows... Anyone know a good source that lays this out for me or is this something that takes years of user experience to learn?
[03:52] <phix>  The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:52] <theguy> what kind of chat room is this
[03:53] <phix> theguy: The one where users ask questions, then they wait, and they get an answer :)
[03:53] <theguy> so this is a chat room about linux
[03:53] <TJ-> daemongpl: The runlevels concept comes from Unix. You can find it's history by searching for the SYS V init (the /etc/rcX.d/ directories implement it)
[03:54] <phix> so any ideas ---^
[03:54] <bawf> daemongpl: There are some good articles that cover the kernel boot process, if thats what u r looking for, google "linux kernel boot"
[03:54] <smw> theguy, about ubuntu specifically
[03:54] <phix> theguy: about ubuntu linux in particular
[03:54] <xangua> !gpgerr | phix the full error message would be more useful
[03:54] <theguy> i see well there is a question ive been wondering for some time now
[03:55] <xangua> but if it's only the ubuntu repository just use the keys the bot mentions phix
[03:55] <theguy> do real woman actually log on to free online chats that you would find from letts say google and the likes?
[03:55] <xangua> !ot | theguy
[03:55] <phix> W: GPG error: http://au.archive.ubuntu.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:55] <phix> W: GPG error: http://archive.canonical.com precise Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>
[03:55] <TJ-> daemongpl: But it's pretty simple: BIOS > HDD1(sector 0) > bootloader > kernel+initial-ramdisk > kernel > /init (process). What 'init' does depends on the distribution. On Ubuntu that's the "upstart" package. On Fedora/Red Hat it's "systemd"
[03:56] <cowsquad> what desktop manager are you guys using with ubuntu 12.04?
[03:56] <theguy> ok hows come when i disable my wifi switch on my keyboard after running rfkill no sucess
[03:56] <phix> xangua: Is thatuuseful now?
[03:56] <xangua> phix: did you read what the bot said¿
[03:56] <xangua> cowsquad: Ubuntu uses gnome with unity shell as default
[03:57] <TJ-> daemongpl: Most modern distros now are moving away from the SYSV init because they are implementing parallel init systems to improve boot times and take advantage of modern multi-core systems
[03:57] <cowsquad> xangua, yeah. Are you using any other one?
[03:57] <theguy> anyone know why rfkill wont work?
[03:58] <xangua> cowsquad: do you have a support questions¿ polls are offtopic for #ubuntu
[03:58] <cowsquad> ah okay. thank you man
[03:59] <cowsquad> xangua How can I upgrade to quantun quetzal?
[03:59] <xangua> !12.10 | cowsquad
[03:59] <TJ-> Someone remind me how to type accented characters! Alt-Gr+something > accent > key ?
[04:00] <theguy> does anyone know about the rfkill command
[04:01] <aeon-ltd> theguy: man does
[04:01] <theguy> i hope its not the MAN
[04:01] <theguy> lol get it
[04:06] <danny> whats the default chat app for the latest ubuntu?
[04:07] <smw> danny, empathy
[04:07] <danny> cool -thanks
[04:11] <de> how can I find out my computers ip address
[04:11] <de> ?
[04:12] <ClientAlive> using scp is confusin. The material I'm finding online is not clear what's meant by "computer you're on" (or similar) and I don't get it.
[04:12] <ClientAlive> help?
[04:12] <rauf> http://www.whatismyip.com/
[04:13] <MonkeyDust> ClientAlive  scp is cp over ssh, so from your loal pc to a remote pc
[04:14] <MonkeyDust> local*
[04:14] <Dark-Magician-Gi> How do I save changes to /etc/default/grub?
[04:14] <neelpulse> Here's my problem. I once set proxy in my chromium browser and applied it system wide. Since then I could not get it removed. Whenever I wanted to install something I would always do: sudo -s, export "http_proxy=", export "https_proxy=", apt-get update and then install it. But then next time I would have to do it all over again. How can I achieve permanent effect
[04:15] <PoundXI> sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[04:15] <MonkeyDust> or sudo -e
[04:15] <ClientAlive> well I'm "on" a particular pysical machine (that's the one with the file I want to copy to the "other" machine. In a sense I'm also "on" that machine too (via ssh). What do I have to type to copy the file from this machine to that one?
[04:16] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I don't understand. I'm in the '/etc/default/grub' file now. It doesn't list save as an option. It does list exit though.
[04:16] <MonkeyDust> ClientAlive  scp file user@remote ip-address
[04:16] <ClientAlive> I've tried several variations and get that the file doesn't exist "cannot stat..." but it does and it's spelled right too.
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed (nomodeset fixes it but then compiz is unworkable)
[04:17] <MonkeyDust> ClientAlive  scp file user@remote ip-address:/home/user
[04:17] <ClientAlive> ohh. Well that must be an old tute or something. They have a colon in there.
[04:17] <bawf> Dark-Magician-Gi: U need to edit it with sudo to save
[04:17] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I've already edited it. I changed 'GRUB_DEFAULT=0' to 'GRUB_DEFAULT=4'
[04:18] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: you also need to update-grub as root
[04:18] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Yeah, that I read. I'm not sure how to save the change first though.
[04:18] <nerdbromancer> like after you have done the changes and saved them
[04:18] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: it should let you if you are root
[04:19] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Hm, I'll take another look at it.
[04:19] <bawf> He prob edited from nautilus
[04:19] <daemongpl> maybe sudo nano /etc/default/grub if you cant figure gedit out....
[04:19] <lotuspsychje> !info xserver-xorg-driver-ati > lotuspsychje
[04:19] <bawf> u can do gedit like that. Or sudo nautilu should work
[04:19] <blackshirt> for gui based, use gksudo /etc/default/grub
[04:20] <blackshirt> Don't using sudo
[04:20] <blackshirt> Bawf, don't suggest them
[04:20] <bawf> y?
[04:21] <ClientAlive> thanks MonkeyDust. That worked (was needing to go the other direction albeit, but was easy enough to reverse the order and get it).    :)
[04:21] <TJ-> That'd be "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"
[04:21] <MonkeyDust> bawf  don't suggest that to someone who doesnt know what he's doing
[04:21] <neelpulse> what is the default value of http_proxy and https_proxy in etc/environment file?
[04:21] <blackshirt> Use gksudo/gksu instead for gui based access
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> howto fix this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[04:22] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I used 'suno nano /etc/default/grub' to access it.
[04:22] <bawf> what's the downside of using sudo for GUI? Security risk?
[04:22] <TJ-> Dark-Magician-Gi: That's good from a terminal.
[04:22] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I clicked exit then save. Now it says Uncomment to disable graphical terminal/file name to write
[04:23] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I have no idea what to do here.
[04:23] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: and suDO not suNo if thats what you were typing
[04:23] <bawf> ctrl s
[04:23] <crimsonmane> bawf: yes
[04:23] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Yeah, sudo. That was a typo. Sorry.
[04:23] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Options are: gethelp, cancel, dos format, mac format, append, prepend, backup file
[04:23] <blackshirt> bawf, sudo and gksudo setup different environment for gui access...
[04:24] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: its all good, thats super strange though
[04:24] <Dark-Magician-Gi> That is after I clicked exit>save
[04:24] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: nm, with nano you just exit and save
[04:24] <blackshirt> For some time, you maybe gets wrong permission on files, when setup it with sudo
[04:25] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: you go to quit "and then its like  'you want to save' and you say 'yes, save it to grub'"
[04:25] <TJ-> Dark-Magician-Gi: In nano, after you've made a change you press Ctrl+X to exit, and confirm the file-name to save
[04:25] <Dark-Magician-Gi> nerdbromancer: I didn't get that.
[04:25] <Dark-Magician-Gi> How do I confirm the file name. I guess it's 'append'?
[04:25] <Dark-Magician-Gi> It's the only command I can think of it being.
[04:26] <TJ-> Dark-Magician-Gi: It asks you "Save modified buffer..."   you press Y for Yes
[04:26] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician-Gi: what tj said
[04:26] <lotuspsychje> howto update or fix xserver-xorg-driver-ati?
[04:26] <TJ-> Dark-Magician-Gi:  then it offers you the filename and you press Return to accept the current filename
[04:27] <blackshirt> lotuspsychje, just install the newer version
[04:28] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I got it.
[04:28] <lotuspsychje> blackshirt:from where
[04:28] <blackshirt> lotuspsychje, what release are you using now?
[04:28] <Dark-Magician-Gi> It saved so now i have to run that one command. Do I type 'sudo nano update-grub' in terminal?
[04:29] <lotuspsychje> blackshirt: precise 64bit 12.04.1
[04:29] <nerdbromancer> Dark-Magician: no nano
[04:29] <daemongpl> blackshirt: how often does that file permission problem happen? sudo elevates the command and UID\GID stay the same when editing right or does it edit\create the file with different permissions when using sudo???\
[04:29] <bawf> no
[04:29] <nerdbromancer> just "sudo update-grub"
[04:29] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Okay.
[04:29] <blackshirt> that the newest release i think.. But you can wait for the next release
[04:29] <bawf> nano is a terminal text editing program
[04:29] <rainchick> Hey everyone, I'm having an issue with Ubuntu 12.10 and Banshee. Is there a better channel for me to ask in?
[04:30] <j2bv16> rainchick: what problem?
[04:30] <lotuspsychje> blackshirt:yes i clean installed it but still the bug remains
[04:30] <rainchick> j2bv16, well, Banshee crashes so often it's unusable and doesn't provide any indication as to why, it just dies. Usually when I make changes to my library or do something that involves writing to the drive.
[04:31] <blackshirt> daemongpl, gksudo works on gui (contain display environment) and setup them properly...
[04:31] <rainchick> Rhytymbox works fine.
[04:31] <nerdbromancer> lotupsycheje: was it a problem on older releases?
[04:31] <j2bv16> rainchick: Ubuntu 12.10 is having a big problem with QT
[04:32] <TJ-> rainchick: Quantal support is in #ubuntu+1
[04:32] <blackshirt> Daemongpl, and sudo works for text command line mode and not sometime not correctly setup related for gui environment
[04:32] <lotuspsychje> nerdbromander:im trying to fix a square mouse pointer every cold boot like this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[04:32] <rainchick> j2bv16, I see... is there any way I can make my experience more useful for the developers so I can help fix?  And I'll head to #ubuntu+1 too. :)
[04:32] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Alright. It worked. Thanks.
[04:33] <j2bv16> rainchick: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.searchtext=qt&search=Search&field.status%3Alist=NEW&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITH_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=INCOMPLETE_WITHOUT_RESPONSE&field.status%3Alist=CONFIRMED&field.status%3Alist=TRIAGED&field.status%3Alist=INPROGRESS&field.status%3Alist=FIXCOMMITTED&field.assignee=&field.bug_reporter=&field.omit_dupes=on&field.has_patch=&field.has_no_package=&orderby=-heat&start=0
[04:33] <j2bv16> We have to wait for a update
[04:33] <j2bv16> (sorry for the long link)
[04:33] <blackshirt> for e.g was .ICEAuthority fikes on your home maybe become owned by root
[04:33] <rainchick> j2bv16, ok, thanks. :) I'll be patient then. :)
[04:34] <Dark-Magician-Gi> I do have another question. I have a dell resource cd which I use to install graphics, audio, etc. drivers  when I reinstall Windows. Do I use the dell resource cd for Ubuntu too?
[04:34] <blackshirt> i don't think so..that was made for windows
[04:34] <daemongpl> blackshirt: ahh, so gksudo will run the gui and elevate where needed and sudo will run entire application elevated?
[04:34] <Dark-Magician-Gi> Alrght, that's what I thought but I wanted to make sure.
[04:35] <blackshirt> you shouldd't need them
[04:37] <blackshirt> daemon, that was tool used for same purposes, get root access, but have different characteristic internally..you can use both of them, but accessing root for gui based using sudo, thats contains some probabilistic trouble
[04:37] <nerdbromancer> uggh im having this (https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xfce4-volumed/+bug/990562) problem with xfce but i really don;t wanna go to gnome/unity
[04:39] <nerdbromancer> like i really just want gnome2/compiz but its not 2008 any more :(
[04:41] <phix> xangua: yeah, but now what?
[04:42] <xangua> phix: did you follow the instructions¿
[04:43] <phix> xangua: same error message
[04:43] <phix> xangua: sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com 40976EAF437D05B5
[04:43] <crimsonmane> nerdbromancer: you would like Linux Mint MATE and install compiz.
[04:44] <phix> gpg: requesting key 437D05B5 from hkp server keyserver.ubuntu.com
[04:44] <phix> gpg: key 437D05B5: "Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key <ftpmaster@ubuntu.com>" not changed
[04:44] <phix> sudo apt-get update still returns the key warning message
[04:44] <phix> xangua: now what?
[04:44] <ClientAlive> I have a permission issue trying to use scp. The file I'm trying to copy requires root privs. Is there a way to run the command for it to work?
[04:44] <lotuspsychje> !mint | crimsonmane
[04:44] <ClientAlive> file is on the physical computer I'm typing on and trying to copy to another computer
[04:45] <clipclick> quick opinion poll: What do you like best as my email: steven@steven-dale.com || hello@steven-dale.com || contact@steven-dale.com || me@steven-dale.com   - Thanks!
[04:45] <crimsonmane> i'm aware it's not a supported derivative. but he said he'd like gnome2 with compiz, and if ubuntu doesn't offer a solution for that, then i've given the best response.
[04:45] <nerdbromancer> crimsonmane: mate has been super buggy for me, i have used it in ubuntu and mate
[04:45] <crimsonmane> clipclick: why not "stephen@dale.com"
[04:46] <xangua> phix: (it's 437D05B5 for the standard ones) as the bot says
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> crimsonmane:the best response is to solve ubuntu problems, not suggesting another Os here
[04:46] <clipclick> dale.com is registered
[04:46] <crimsonmane> dale.net
[04:46] <phix> xangua: ok so the repo I am using is being stupid?
[04:46] <crimsonmane> dale.us
[04:47] <clipclick> i'd prefer the .com :)
[04:47] <crimsonmane> lotuspsychje: for the record, you're supposed to make the best decision for the customer/shareholders, not yourself. that's how i think, that's how i approach problems, and that's how i solve them with 100% satisfaction guaranteed.
[04:47] <lotuspsychje> clipclick:stop that, this is an ubuntu support channel
[04:47] <ClientAlive> still - and I've tried a couple variations
[04:48] <ClientAlive> is this going to also be a problem trying to use unison with those files?
[04:48] <nerdbromancer> lotuspsychje: I have used it with ubuntu through the ppa. In fact I don't really like mint because of its lack of a debian installer
[04:48] <phix> crimsonmane: lotuspsychje has a point, this is a ubuntu support channel, if you want something more general goto general computer support channel
[04:49] <phix> I actually don't know any ones off the top of my head, but if you do find a good one let me know, I would be interested in offering some support
[04:49] <crimsonmane> mint has a debian installer, nerdbromancer
[04:52] <jagginess> !mint
[04:53] <crimsonmane> nobody is looking for help with mint
[04:53] <jagginess> yada i came in late
[04:53] <crimsonmane> i think you're defending your turf against an imaginary enemy
[04:54] <ClientAlive> anyone on using ssh/ scp command?
[04:54] <nerdbromancer> crimsonmane: from what i've seen it has a debian edition with debian repos not the installer. also what i am really just upset that my sound fn keys dont work with xfce in 12.04
[04:54] <jagginess> ClientAlive, sftp is better
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | ClientAlive
[04:54] <lotuspsychje> ClientAlive:read up the url mate, alot of usefull info before you start transfering or cp files
[04:55] <jagginess> that ubottu is outta date, it should say the sftp command
[04:55] <crimsonmane> nerdbromancer: you're not very informed about mint then. i'll join you in #ubuntu-offtopic if you'd like to chat about it. i think we're making the ops nervous here.
[04:56] <jagginess> crimsonmane, seems like you you love to repeat it over and over to him :)
[04:56] <ClientAlive> lotuspsychje: I need to copy a file from the machine I'm on that is owned by root (specifically, my /root/.bashrc) to the other machine. Everything I try gets me "permission denied"
[04:56] <crimsonmane> jagginess: i'm doing it half because you ops are so uptight about it.
[04:56] <ClientAlive> I just need to get something done
[04:56] <lotuspsychje> ClientAlive:do you use sudo?
[04:57] <jagginess> crimsonmane, i'm no op, but i see you don't tend to be efficient, (you confusing me man :)
[04:57] <crimsonmane> you came in late... i'll forgive you for not keeping up
[04:58] <jagginess> !help
[04:59] <ClientAlive> I've tried sudo scp... I've tried scp sudo, I've tried logging onto that other machine then doing su and loggin in as root before the scp command (with and without sudo). I'm getting tired of screwing with it.
[04:59] <crimsonmane> ClientAlive: in a terminal "sudo <name of your file manager"
[04:59] <crimsonmane> ClientAlive: also try rebooting once. i had a similar problem a couple weeks ago.
[04:59] <subcool> question. Im tired of fixing everything on ubuntu. I keep hearing/seeing "/home" being used as a great backup- Im about to start to push that myself. QUESTION- can i setup a fstab or something to mount my external or mapped devices? IN /HOME
[04:59] <ClientAlive> err...
[04:59] <subcool> ClientAlive, i love scp - make sure u dont have a firewall up
[05:00] <daemongpl> ClientAlive: just do ftp put and get commands
[05:00] <subcool> ClientAlive, scp -r /home/USER/Downloads/Torrents/OSx86/  USER@192.168.2.5:/home/USER/Downloads/PUSH/
[05:01] <subcool> ClientAlive, you have to run it from the "host" -
[05:03] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed
[05:04] <crimsonmane> lotuspsychje: from synaptic, i would locate the mouse and mark for reinstallation.
[05:04] <lotuspsychje> crimsonmane:i dont think its a mouse problem,cause 'nomodeset' add to grub fixes this
[05:05] <subcool> ClientAlive, let me know if it worked- i dont get the man of SCP - so i found that formula and have saved it so i can use it when i need. It works for me great- but ONLY if i use that formula. every time i try to read the man and make it work- i f' it up.
[05:05] <crimsonmane> nomodeset has more to do graphically overall than anything specifically with the mouse
[05:06] <jaequery> what is the most important linux security technology, choose one: selinux, grsecurity, cis benchmark, or bastille?
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> crimsonmane: i think its related to this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/556782
[05:08] <jagginess> jaequery, i say none of them ;0
[05:08] <jagginess> jaequery, a very good firewall is what matters most to me
[05:08] <apg> is there anybody got any message in halting ubuntu "mount:/ is busy"
[05:08] <apg> ?
[05:08] <jagginess> , and reverse proxies etc..
[05:09] <jaequery> whats a very good firewall?
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | jaequery
[05:10] <jaequery> you mean the one w/ IDS and IDPS?
[05:10] <williamherry> when will ubuntu 12.10 release?
[05:10] <jaequery> or did you just mean to say firewall rules ala iptables
[05:10] <lotuspsychje> !12.10 | williamherry
[05:11] <williamherry> lotuspsychje, thanks
[05:11] <williamherry> join #ubuntu+1
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !info snort | jaequery
[05:14] <jaequery> ....
[05:14] <jaequery> i feel like im in #cs101 class ...
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !security > lotuspsychje
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> jaequery:you asked for security right
[05:15] <lotuspsychje> !security | jaequery
[05:16] <jaequery> i thought we'd been discussing about grsecurity, security access controls, rbac, by now ...
[05:17] <jaequery> it seems #ubuntu isn't up to par, compared to other channels
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> jaequery:this is an ubuntu support channel, more then a security talk
[05:18] <jaequery> i c, my bad
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> jaequery:but you can aks ubuntu security packages problems right
[05:19] <jaequery> got it, i'll take not of this.
[05:19] <lotuspsychje> jaequery:or try #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss all sorts
[05:23] <ph1rmw4r3>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY good2go
[05:23] <Assid> heya
[05:23] <Assid> isnt here openvz for ubuntu ? on 12.04 ?
[05:23] <gordaa> hola
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> !es | gordaa
[05:29] <eth1pavan> hello may i know how to change the distribution name CentOS release 6.2 (Final) to xyz release (Final)
[05:29] <eth1pavan> in the login window.
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> eth1pavan:this is an ubuntu support channel mate
[05:30] <Assid> whats a suggested virtualization environment ?
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> !info virtualbox | Assid
[05:31] <Assid> hmm.. vbox
 ok if i had to change the ubuntu distribution and logo in the login screen, how do i go about it.
[05:36] <Assid> lotuspsychje: im trying out kvm
[05:36] <lotuspsychje> eth1pavan:if you mean to change the default Os you need to edit in grub, logo can be changed with ubuntu tweak
[05:38] <kyan> Hi.. I just upgraded to Ubuntu 12.04 (from 10.10) and itś really confusing -- I have a bunch of questions. 1. How do I set the icon theme? 2. How do I get the old Dvorak International layout back (it seems to have been removed)? 3. How do I install KDE programs in Synaptic -- it says theyŕe all broken? 4. How do I fix the ugly font rasterization?
[05:38] <kyan> Thanks.
[05:38] <kyan> Iḿ sure some more will come to mind .. :P
[05:38] <lotuspsychje> !unity | kyan
[05:38] <jagginess> kyan, i'd google :)
[05:38] <jagginess> kyan, here..
[05:39] <lotuspsychje> kyan:synaptic has been removed by default, you can still install
[05:39] <kyan> lotuspsychje: Iǘe read quite a bit about Unity. None of my qusetions are related to Unity (Iḿ quite happy with Unity, itś really what I upgraded for)
[05:39] <kyan> lotuspsychje: I installed Synaptic from Ubuntu Software Centre since I couldn figure out how to use the Software Centre easily.
[05:40] <kyan> lotuspsychje: Synaptic says that I have over 100 broken packages when I read my markings from my old system.
[05:40] <lotuspsychje> kyan:its recommended to clean install precise 12.04.1
[05:40] <bawf> Is there a way to batch install fonts?
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> bawf: you can try apt-cache search fonts then install?
[05:41] <kyan> lotuspsychje: I installed from the CD image downloaded via Bittorrent. I formatted the partition for it freshly, but I used the old swap space.
[05:41] <lotuspsychje> kyan:ah so it isnt an upgrade really
[05:41] <jagginess> kyan, swapon -s<enter> see if there's one being used.. if not add it to /etc/fstab
[05:42] <kyan> jagginess: I don really need swap (Iǘe got 3GiB ram)
[05:42] <kyan> jagginess; And yes it is using swap.
[05:42] <jagginess> kyan, maybe you don't, but in the past i would get a stall if i didnt use one.
[05:43] <jagginess> hmm
[05:43] <kyan> jagginess: Ok, thanks. It seems to be working though
[05:43] <kyan> jagginess: The four questions I listed first are currently the most pressing though.
[05:43] <kyan> jagginess: Also, why does X chat no longer have a scroll bar?
[05:44] <kyan> or any scroll bars for that matter?
[05:44] <jagginess> dunno, you'll have to toy around with it.. it all depends on what you like.. unfortunately i don't use  unity..
[05:44] <jagginess> or maybe fortunately :) heeheh
[05:44] <kyan> Well it looks like therś no option under settings for scroll bars.
[05:45] <jagginess> dunno, you'll have to toy around with it..
[05:45] <jagginess> i think very few people in here actually like unity..
[05:45] <kyan> jagginess: I like Unity. the menu bar search and global menu thing seem easy.
[05:45] <jagginess> i think unity is good for newcomers and touchscreens..
[05:45] <jagginess> but i'm having problems accepting to switching to it anytime soon
[05:46] <kyan> jagginess: Well Iǘe got 7 years experience with Linux, and Iḿ using a non-touchscreen normal laptop. I guess itś just a matter of taste
[05:46] <paulus68_> #acer-liquid
[05:46] <jagginess> there are better apps that do search and menu search, (there are a few very good ones)
[05:47] <kyan> jagginess: Well I don really understand the desktop lenses thing (I like Strigi/Nepomuk/Soprano for desktop search), but I like the menu search still.
[05:47] <jagginess> kyan, well if the gfx effects don't stall on you.. then that's good.. but you should know it's the ideal gfx driver isn't always ideal/optimized for the average user..
[05:47]  * jagginess hopes valve's gfx coding efforts will change X drivers for the good
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> guys lets stick to ubuntu support problems
[05:48] <kyan> jagginess: Well the graphics seem to be working fine. Iǘe been trying to figure out where the compiz files are but I don think that will be too hard.
[05:48] <lotuspsychje> like/unlike talk to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <kyan> lotuspsychje: Ok, thanks
[05:48] <kyan> sorry for the noise
[05:48] <jagginess> it's not offtopic..
[05:48] <kyan> jagginess: in a support channel it is XD
[05:49] <jagginess> he's actually using unity, and i'm buzzing i don't use it.. so if anyone uses it, maybe they can shed some light on what he wants to od..
[05:49] <kyan> jagginess: Well, itś not Unity thatś giving me problems. Itś the package management
[05:49] <jagginess> synaptic?
[05:50] <kyan> jagginess: Both Synaptic and Aptitude aren resolving dependencies correctly..
[05:50] <jagginess> use the update-manager gui app in the menu.. update the indexes with it (it'll update sources.list)
[05:51] <lotuspsychje> kyan:you could try ubuntu-tweak to sort many things out
[05:51] <jagginess> (i mean it's able to update sources.list if you choose more repos, but it also updates the local indexes of avail packages)
[05:51] <piercedwater> hi
[05:52] <jagginess> kyan, also be careful from outdated and dangerous ppa's.. be very decisive with ppa's.
[05:52] <kyan> jagginess: Updated lists; still not working
[05:53] <kyan> jagginess: I imported my ppas from the old install. I then read the saved markings, installed the software, then disabled the ppas.
[05:53] <kyan> jagginess: All I have enabled now is the main section
[05:53] <jagginess> kyan, you said you updated? it doesn't hurt to add the previous ubuntu repos you had before, in case you use an application whose libraries are obsoleted
[05:53] <kyan> jagginess: ok 1 min
[05:54] <kyan> lotuspsychje: How do I do that? I have Ubuntu Tweak installed
[05:54] <xj98jeep> Im trying to set up a software RAID on 12.04, have gotten evreything set up and now I'm trying to make the .conf file, but whenever I try to do it in terminal I get a bash: permission denied message even with root privileges how can I make the .conf file?
[05:54] <jagginess> kyan, btw-- apt-cache policy <packagename> , shows extra info from which repository
[05:54] <jagginess> kyan, you using nothing wild, like-- you really are using ubuntu and not mixing it with debian repos i hope
[05:55] <L1> I have mounted /mnt/ec2 with fuse sshfs, however I get permission denied for nearly everything. How do I run sudo as the remote user? E.g. I want to do me@mylocalpc:$ sudo mkdir /mnt/ec2/var/www/mysite
[05:55] <lotuspsychje> kyan:there's a system cleaner on board, that might do magic
[05:55] <kyan> jagginess: Iĺl pastebin my sources.list.. 1 sec
[05:55] <vkas> i cannot dial ppp using my HSUPA modem on 2G network; http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196079/
[05:55] <kyan> lotuspsychje: ok, thanks. Magic sounds good :D
[05:57] <kyan> jagginess, http://pastebin.com/abYdG9nG
[05:59] <kyan> jagginess: Still no luck. I pastebinned my sources.list: http://pastebin.com/abYdG9nG
[05:59] <kyan> ha! I found the scroll bar in Xchat!
[05:59] <kyan> yay!
[06:00] <jagginess> kyan, looks a bit dangerous to use maverick ppa's on 12.04 (you should check each ppa and see)
[06:00] <kyan> jagginess: oh maybe. Well most of the PPAs are disabled anyway. I just used them to install stuff, then disabled them
[06:00] <jagginess> kyan, as i said, apt-cache policy shows the repo..
[06:01] <RocketScience> i tried to do sudo -i and i got the error -bash: export: '=": not a valid identifier and then the same error with '/root/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin'
[06:01] <RocketScience> my bashrc file is normal... I deleted my edits and its still giving me the error
[06:02] <jagginess> RocketScience, that's more bash related
[06:02] <jagginess> RocketScience, /root/bin ?
[06:03] <kyan> jagginess: apt-cache policy output: http://pastebin.com/K0XwUnrF
[06:03] <RocketScience> thats the error it gave me. No clue why its doing itt now
[06:03] <jagginess> kyan, ahem
[06:03] <jagginess> kyan, the package that is problematic, you can do-> apt-cache policy <packagename> to show which repository it's coming from
[06:05] <kyan> jagginess: ohhh, I get it. Thanks.
[06:05] <kyan> jagginess: Itś coming from the official precise-updates
[06:05] <jagginess> RocketScience, there's #bash(i'm there)
[06:06] <jagginess> kyan, what package/libs say are missing?
[06:06] <vega-> how do i disable the feature that pops up the "Type your command" launcher whilst pressing Alt key ? I have alt-fX assigned to switch desktops and now they somehow conflict
[06:06] <jagginess> kyan, is it a versioning# ?
[06:07] <jagginess> vega-, maybe that's an accessibility thing that's on.. sometimes the metakeys are used for this..
[06:07] <kyan> jagginess: http://pastebin.com/Q21gJukj
[06:08] <vega-> jagginess: is there a setting for those somewhere? can't find in system settings..
[06:08] <jagginess> kyan, apt-cache show dolphin would show the dependencies..
[06:08] <thrasher194> how much longer do i have to wait for 12.10?
[06:08] <jagginess> vega-, must be there.. system/settings accessibility should be there somewhere
[06:08] <thrasher194> need to get sum blank dvds..
[06:08] <lotuspsychje> !12.10 | thrasher194
[06:09] <vkas> my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:09] <kyan> jagginess: It doesn look like it has any errors in apt-cache show dolphin
[06:09] <jagginess> vega-, accessibility means people with physical problems -- (not implying you are, but there may be something set to on), there's also system/setting keyboard (shortcuts is 2nd tab)
[06:09] <someprimetime> on my server i run some websites. i'd like to set up anything@anyofmydomains.com to forward to my single gmail email... what do i have to do to enable that?
[06:09] <jagginess> someprimetime, not easy :/
[06:10] <thrasher194> cool!!! got a blank 160GB waiting.. :)
[06:10] <someprimetime> dang
[06:10] <jagginess> someprimetime, providing you're not relying on setting up an "mta".. i'm sure there's quick tools that can do it..
[06:10] <vega-> jagginess: yes i know, i have browsed the keyboard shortcuts already, nothing with just "Alt" ..
[06:10] <jagginess> someprimetime, but i have no idea have reliable these are..
[06:11] <someprimetime> ah alright thanks anyway jagginess
[06:11] <hateball> someprimetime: what you want to google for (if thats any help) would be "postfix catch-all" (assuming you use postfix)
[06:11] <someprimetime> ok yes!
[06:11] <someprimetime> thanks
[06:11] <someprimetime> that'll help
[06:11] <someprimetime> +1
[06:11] <FloodBot1> someprimetime: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:11] <jagginess> someprimetime, often a gui mail app can do it ..
[06:11] <jagginess> someprimetime, maybe a plugin of somesort.. but i think you want this automated right?
[06:11] <someprimetime> jagginess: correct
[06:11] <someprimetime> just if anyone somehow ends up emailing iasdhjfiasdh@mydomain.com i'll get it
[06:12] <vkas> my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:12] <jagginess> someprimetime, it'll take a cronjob, and maybe a sendmail.. but sendmail can be notorious (there's different implementations of it, but the simplest i think is from postfix)
[06:12] <jagginess> (but then this may mean tinkering around how to use postfix)
[06:12] <jagginess> someprimetime, apt-cache search mail|grep -i forward
[06:13] <someprimetime> jagginess: yeah i've been running into issues with sendmail and actually am using sendgrid to relay all messages generated by my app now so this whole thing is kinda hairy
[06:13] <jagginess> someprimetime, relay?
[06:13] <jagginess> someprimetime, thought you meant you're using an msa..
[06:14] <someprimetime> jagginess: well it's actually a totally separate thing but it made me think about forwarding email to my account
[06:14] <someprimetime> so it prompted me to find a solution on how to do it
[06:14] <someprimetime> i just wanted to figure out all email type stuff tonight tbhg
[06:14] <someprimetime> s/tbhg/tbh
[06:14] <malinens> hi! where do I get source for find tool?
[06:15] <jagginess> someprimetime, well you cant be an mta, but you can mimic an msa i think with postfix's sendmail (and i use exim myself-- using it's sendmail like to behave like an msa when i need to)
[06:15] <vkas> my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing; syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:15] <someprimetime> basically i started an email list and there are a bunch of emails that are listed as part of the domain (e.g. feedback@mydomain.com) and it asks people to reply to help@mydomain.com if they are having issues so i'm like damn now i need to receive all of those...
[06:15] <someprimetime> ok well at least i know what i search for
[06:15] <someprimetime> i'll keep mucking around with it
[06:16] <jagginess> someprimetime, you'll need your own mta.. this means you'll need your registered mx servers somewhere on the net
[06:16] <kyan> jagginess: I fixed it! The trick wasn disabling the ppas, it was enabling them all!
[06:16] <someprimetime> oh wow.
[06:17] <kyan> jagginess: talk about counterintuitive.. XD
[06:17] <kyan> good enough though.. Itś Alive!!
[06:17] <jagginess> kyan, i dont think dolphin was the problematic package, but a library from a ppa more recent ..
[06:17] <kyan> oh maybe. IDK then
[06:17] <kyan> itś working now anyway :P
[06:17] <jagginess> kyan, you should of found out which package was causing it :)
[06:18] <kyan> jagginess: oh well XD
[06:18] <kyan> So next, how do I get the old key board layout back??
[06:18] <jagginess> kyan, um.. be careful you can break stuff with ppas :)
[06:18] <kyan> jagginess: yeah Iḿ really good at breaking stuff
[06:18] <kyan> lol
[06:18] <Assid> hi.. i am trying to start a kvm instance.. and im getting the following error "error: internal error cannot load AppArmor profile 'libvirt-c2c3f180-8795-e662-5a16-40db34c4bcd2'"
[06:18] <Assid> can someone help me with this
[06:18] <vkas> please help, my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing; syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:19] <kyan> jagginess: d*mn, itś not working after all
[06:23] <hatman> Hello, using Xubuntu and I have a laptop with built-in sound controller (I think), it's from Intel but it isn't seen as output device anymore, even though I can see it in the list of physically installed soundcards
[06:24] <hatman> It worked yesterday, when I installed Xubuntu!
[06:24] <hatman> How do I make it work again?
[06:24] <sirin> hi
[06:24] <vkas> please help, my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing; syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:25] <Guest69344> im using ubuntu 12.0.4  and my issue is that my skype is disappearing when im loggin in to it.
[06:26] <Guest69344> anyone have an idea about this
[06:26] <Guest69344> ?
[06:26] <hateball> Guest69344: Disappearing how? An icon that's gone, or the whole app uninstalled, etc?
[06:27] <SwedeMike> Guest69344: is the skype icon still there in the toolbar, if it is, right-click it and select "activate"
[06:27] <Guest69344> not uninstalling.
[06:27] <Guest69344> there is still the icon
[06:27] <Guest69344> but it forcly logged me out
[06:27] <Guest69344> i can take it and loggin again
[06:28] <SwedeMike> !enter | Guest69344
[06:28] <Guest69344> but the problem is happening only when im logged im
[06:28] <Assid> err can someone help me with this.. im getting  error: internal error cannot load AppArmor profile 'libvirt-c2c3f180-8795-e662-5a16-40db34c4bcd2' when i try and start a kvm instance
[06:28] <hatman> ok, I'm out of time, gotta go. Bye
[06:30] <vkas> please help, my HSUPA modem 2g connection failing; from syslog : http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196086
[06:30] <LorSamPau_w> hey guys, i'm trying to turn off automatic disk check in ubuntu after turning off the power... changing 1 to 0 in fstab - didn't help
[06:31] <jamster> I have an external 500gb hard drive formatted in ext3 and I want to resize it for ubuntu install does it need to be proceeding or following free space so when I boot from it from my netbook it reconizes it or does it not matter?
[06:31] <kyan> is there a way to run a command without a terminal (à la the run command window in maverick?)
[06:32] <LorSamPau_w> kyan, alt+f2
[06:32] <SwedeMike> jamster: the installer will most likely offer to resize the existing partition, so you can let it do it while installing.
[06:33] <kyan> LorSamPau_w: cool, thanks!
[06:33] <jamster> well SwedeMike I am not exactly installing it the normal way
[06:33] <Robert123> hello
[06:33] <jamster> so which would be best?
[06:33] <jamster> it is from ddrescue SwedeMike
[06:35] <Robert123> I upgraded to ubuntu 12.04 and now my system tray is missing and ubuntu is restarting to fix that, but that does not help. How do i get my system tray back?
[06:35] <SwedeMike> jamster: ubuntu should be able to boot from anywhere on a 500 gig drive, so if you need to resize it it's going to be a lot easier to shrink the existing partition.
[06:37] <jamster> okay if it works both ways does choosing one over the other effect speed? SwedeMike
[06:38] <SwedeMike> jamster: It shouldn't really.
[06:38] <push> hello trying to update /etc/hosts in a shell script \/ia sudo . but it wont work.
[06:39] <jamster> how about ddrescue two partitions do I have to make two separate partitions or will it go in the target partition without it being separate?
[06:39] <jamster> the drive I am cloning has two partitions
[06:51] <Robert123> hello, can anyone help me to get my system tray back? Panels are completely missing.
[06:53] <Kartagis> I get multiple results when I do apt-cache show firefox. how do I specify which one to install?
[06:53] <fidel> Robert123: what desktop are you running in the first place?
[06:54] <fidel> Robert123: are they still gonna after reboot - so ir the issue reproduceable?
[06:54] <fidel> or in short
[06:54] <fidel> !details > Robert123
[06:56] <Robert123> fidel: i upgraded fom 10.04 with gnome to 12.04. Now everytime i reboot the system starts without panels, recognizes the problem and tells me to reboot
[06:57] <fidel> Robert123: again - and what desktop-environment are you selecting in the boot-manager?
[06:57] <fidel> or 'login session'
[06:59] <Robert123> fidel: i used standard settings, what should i try? (problem i used the support button and ubuntu started firefx for me, so that i am using the system now)
[07:00] <yellabs-r2> what programs can i use to make perfect professional dvd's ? the top 3 ?
[07:00] <jerlyn> on Linux?
[07:01] <zruty> Anybody clever with dovecot? I keep getting "Error in configuration file /etc/dovecot/dovecot.conf line 37: Expecting '=' " when I try to start the service. And there is a '='
[07:01] <yellabs-r2> yeah
[07:01] <Robert123> fidel: thank you for trying to help! I'll reboot and check the desktop settings.
[07:02] <Kartagis> zruty: #dovecot,
[07:02] <Kartagis> zruty: #dovecot
[07:02] <jerlyn> got no ideal, there's one studio for windows, I run it by wine
[07:03] <yellabs-r2> zruty , something in your config file i guess
[07:03] <zruty> Kartagis: ok, ok...
[07:04] <zruty> yellabs-r2: Yes
[07:04] <zen_monkey> what happends to bug reports when generated while offline? are they saved for later sending?
[07:04] <jerlyn> yellabs, try Ulead VideoStudio plus wine
[07:06] <yellabs-r2> zruty , did you edit dovecot.conf ?
[07:06] <yellabs-r2> what programs can i use to make perfect professional dvd's ? the top 3 ?
[07:06] <zruty> yellabs-r2: Yes.
[07:07] <jerlyn> Ulead VideoStudio
[07:07] <zruty> yellabs-r2: I do not get the error because ther IS a =
[07:07] <yellabs-r2> made a backup of the origenal file ?
[07:07] <yellabs-r2> ah
[07:07] <zruty> yellabs-r2: Yes, but I need it to work with the ports as I spicify
[07:08] <pbase> hi i want to test pidgin's audio call feature. can anyone be the other side for me?
[07:12] <yellabs-r2> zruty , pastebin dovecot conf?
[07:12] <yellabs-r2> http://pastebin.com/
[07:13] <The_BROS> Since yesterday in my Pidgin group orphans was created and all ICQ contacts doubled there
[07:16] <Ascavasaion> I have an old laptop with Intel Core Duo 1.83GHz, 2GB RAM, 320GB HDD.  Will it comfortably run Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome classic desktop?
[07:17] <yellabs-r2> Ascavasaion , yes
[07:19] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: if you mean gnome fallback then yes
[07:22] <djabbour> Hi all. I installed 3rd party graphics drivers, and X11 is working just fine. However, during system startup, I now cannot see any messages or boot screen. Is there any way to disable high-res graphics during boot and just get it to do the textusal boot messages thing?
[07:23] <Ascavasaion> yellabs-r2: Thank you,
[07:23] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: Thank you.
[07:24] <yellabs-r2> bye all
[07:27] <Ascavasaion> Should I download 12.04.1 or 12.04?  It is a new installation, getting a new hard disk for my laptop and swapping that hard disks out.
[07:28] <MacDhuibh> 12.04 will take longer for updates
[07:28] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: may aswell get 12.04.1, unless you already have a 12.04 cd
[07:28] <crizis> doesn't matter, you get all the .1 updates anyway from update manager after installation :p
[07:28] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: Thank you :)
[07:29] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: ftp://ftp.is.co.za/ubuntu-releases/12.04.1/ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.iso for my Intel Core Duo 1.83GHz then?
[07:30] <Eagleman> replacement for webmin
[07:30] <The_BROS> something strange is going on with my pidgin buddy list, new
[07:30] <The_BROS> folders keep getting made titled "orphans" and random people are in it
[07:30] <MacDhuibh> Ascavasaion, yeah.
[07:30] <Ascavasaion> MacDhuibh: Thank you
[07:31] <Kartagis> I get multiple results when I do apt-cache show firefox. how do I specify which one to install?
[07:31] <auronandace> Ascavasaion: if your core duo is 64bit
[07:32] <auronandace> !ebox | Eagleman
[07:33] <Ascavasaion> auronandace: It is, thank you again.
[07:37] <ottoshmidt> hi, where is the file that lists /etc/init.d/ daemons to be launched at startup?
[07:37] <Eagleman> I am lookinf for a backup packet which can backup on windows/linux/sql/mysql
[07:38] <auronandace> !upstart | ottoshmidt
[07:39] <Spectacle_K> I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 and desktops no longer show up in the login screen. Only default desktops do. How do I fix this?
[07:43] <Spectacle_K> Anyone?
[07:43] <Spectacle_K> At least acknowledge my question?
[07:46] <Eagleman> I am looking for a backup packet which can backup on windows/linux/sql/mysql
[07:48] <BlueWolf> Hi I tryed to add this add-on to firefox ( http://www.informationweek.com/software/reviews/image-gallery-top-12-firefox-add-ons/224800005 ) But it's telling me "Not available for your platform" How do I get it to work?
[07:49] <auronandace> BlueWolf: must be windows specific
[07:51] <raven>  some problems with virtual desktop environment via tightvncserver - heavy rights problems with encrypted home-folder - help please
[07:54] <BlueWolf> 	
[07:54] <BlueWolf> auronandace: How could I get it working then?
[07:54] <auronandace> BlueWolf: if it is designed for windows you don't
[07:54] <BlueWolf> 	
[07:55] <BlueWolf> auronandace: Is there no linux version?
[07:55] <auronandace> BlueWolf: contact the addon maker, ask why he doesn't support linux
[07:55] <BlueWolf> 	
[07:55] <BlueWolf> auronandace: Sorry for asking, Thanks for the help.
[07:57] <raven>  some problems with virtual desktop environment via tightvncserver - heavy rights problems with encrypted home-folder - help please
[08:01] <jerry_Yunnan> :)
[08:02] <grzeslaw> emm.. I mean language in gnome..
[08:02] <GeekAdmin> Hi. I have two monitors and extending the display. Is there an application or anything I can download to get more control over the options for having multiple monitors? There are all kinds of issues I'd like to correct and hoping there is something I can use to tweek it. 12.04
[08:03] <auronandace> GeekAdmin: its entirely dependant on your graphics card
[08:04] <GeekAdmin> auronandace:  oh ok
[08:04] <GeekAdmin> auronandace:  darn
[08:04] <GeekAdmin> auronandace:  I already installed the "additional drivers" for my graphics card
[08:05] <auronandace> GeekAdmin: and your card is...
[08:05] <MacDhuibh> GeekAdmin, if you're on Unity, there should be some program in "system settings" that can let you change where the launcher is and sticky edges.
[08:06] <GeekAdmin> MacDhuibh:  Darn I dont use Unity. I use gnome or xfce
[08:06] <CQ> hello, I have thunderbird going to 100% CPU on IMAP folder switch, but nothing shows when running top, any ideas?
[08:07] <MacDhuibh> Sorry =O
[08:07] <GeekAdmin> You guys actually use Unity? I thought Unity was only for newbs or people with netbooks. Am I wrong?
[08:07] <MacDhuibh> Eh, I use 2d =P
[08:08] <auronandace> GeekAdmin: yes, anyone can use unity if they wish
[08:08] <MacDhuibh> Can't remember why i switched from xfce
[08:08] <GeekAdmin> hehe
[08:09] <GeekAdmin> To each their own. I'm not trying to put anyone down for using Unity or anything. I just didnt think it was very popular
[08:09] <GeekAdmin> popular amount experienced Linux users that is
[08:09] <GeekAdmin> *among
[08:09] <MacDhuibh> There's actually a gentoo overlay for it.
[08:09] <GeekAdmin> really?
[08:09] <bazhang> lets get back on topic GeekAdmin
[08:09] <GeekAdmin> k sorry
[08:12] <raven>  some problems with virtual desktop environment via tightvncserver - heavy rights problems with encrypted home-folder - help please
[08:17] <susundbe1g> raven: you need to describe your question little more precise so if somebody knows about the issue can help. Like write what you want to do and what is the problem
[08:19] <raven> susundbe1g randomly skype and xchat crashes at the same time with kind of message "e/a-error" does not seem a hardware problem so i think its a rights problem with the encrypted home folder. i am running some other apps via sux on a user withou encrypted home and there it seems to run well. in addidion to that kdenlive shows the hardware tuner only via root and sudo nethogs shows the vnc-traffic as unknown pid and unknown device
[08:21] <susundbe1g> i am just guessing but i would say that xchat does not crash '
[08:21] <raven> susundbe1g and now i have no rights to write via nano into my home
[08:21] <susundbe1g> randomly' if there is major problem with file permissions, since i would guess it reads all stuff on startup
[08:21] <raven> anything is messed up with the rights
[08:22] <hoyang> too many console-kit-daemon thread, how to remove this program? or, what is this program doing?
[08:22] <hoyang> help
[08:22] <susundbe1g> raven: well yeah that sounds like real problem, what does ls -lah $HOME say? you can change ownership of a directory with chown -R my-user: target_directory
[08:23] <ActionParsnip> raven: are you the owner of the entire $HOME dir?
[08:23] <hoyang> program location is /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon
[08:24] <raven> susundbe1g obviously its the right user
[08:24] <raven> ActionParsnip it seems that i am the owner yes
[08:25] <xnixan_> Hi, i forgot what was the name of the tool previous to software center, what was it?
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> raven: you can check with:   sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME
[08:25] <ActionParsnip> xnixan_: synaptic maybe
[08:25] <xnixan_> ActionParsnip, yep :)
[08:25] <xnixan_> thanks!
[08:27] <Kentos> o/
[08:27] <raven> ok the command succeeded
[08:27] <raven> how to verify?
[08:27] <ActionParsnip> raven: try do what you were doing before....
[08:27] <susundbe1g> raven: try to nano the file that editing failed earlier?
[08:29] <raven> ActionParsnip susundbe1g no change
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> raven: nano seems to have an issue with running with sudo, it changes the ownership of ~/.nano_history to roor:$USER   which only means that when you run it you get a warning
[08:29] <raven> yes i deleted it but it does not work
[08:30] <Kentos> you deleted what?
[08:30] <raven> the .nano_hist
[08:31] <raven> because that appeared as root in ls -la
[08:32] <susundbe1g> mhh, after 'sudo chown -R $USER:$USER $HOME' that should not be the case
[08:32] <raven> top
[08:32] <raven> and xtightvnc seems to run as the right user too
[08:35] <ActionParsnip> raven: are you VNCing, then running a terminal on the desktop?
[08:35] <raven> yes but i could do external too
[08:35] <raven> nevessary?
[08:35] <raven> c
[08:36] <ActionParsnip> raven: why not just install openssh-server then connect via SSH, you don't need the full desktop to do CLI stuff. It wil also be faster and use drastically fewer resources
[08:37] <raven> ActionParsnip i do already but i need to run some graphical apps on the machine too
[08:38] <ActionParsnip> raven: you can run GUI apps via SSH too, they will be running on the server bu appear on the client system, much like citrix :)
[08:39] <ActionParsnip> raven: or do the CLI stuff via ssh and then run the gui stuff via vnc
[08:39] <raven> ActionParsnip nooo the apps need to run when i am not connected too
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> raven: ahh i see
[08:42] <raven> anything i could try next?
[08:46] <Kartagis> I get multiple results when I do apt-cache show firefox. how do I specify which one to install?
[08:47] <hateball> Kartagis: the package "firefox" will suffice
[08:47] <hateball> that is, apt-get install firefox
[08:48] <Kartagis> hateball: I did that, and it says 16 was installed, but when I restart ff, it is still 14
[08:48] <middleton88> hey guys ive been trying to get my evo lte unbricked for awhile now is there anyone here thsat can help me out
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> raven: what apps are you running?
[08:49] <hateball> Kartagis: umm... are you using a PPA or something? 16 is not in the official repo. apt-get update && apt-get upgrade should put you on 15
[08:49] <ActionParsnip> middleton88: i'd try in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:50] <middleton88> ohh really something wasnt working i couldnt see anyones text and i couldnt send anything
[08:53] <middleton88> ActionParsnip i messaged u in the private message area
[08:56] <middleton88> hey guys so i installed ubuntu and ran the commands to get my evo unbricked and it said that evrything seemed to be fine after eating 11 out of 11 bamboos i also tried to get out of the q-dload mode but i cant get there from the suggested cd desktop i had to do it from cd downloads anyone have any suggestions
[08:56] <pungi_man> my "ctrl" button is not working on VirtualBox .. can anyone help me ?
[08:56] <middleton88> please help been trying to get my evo back for a week now
[08:57] <eman_> ubuntu 12.04 32bit, ID 148f:2870 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870 Wireless Adapte, randomley looses internett connection? help
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: does it work in the host?
[08:57] <pungi_man> yes
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: i'd ask in #vbox too :)
[08:57] <ozette> pungi_man, right ctrl button?
[08:57] <joobie> is Ubuntu planning to fix GPT support for the installer?
[08:57] <pungi_man> ozette, yes
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> eman_: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[08:58] <joobie> it was such a PITA to set it up ..
[08:58] <eman_> precise
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> eman_: can you pastebin the output of:  lsmod    please
[08:59] <ozette> pungi_man, you want to use the ctrl button to escape out of your machine?
[09:00] <eman_> ActionParsnip, how to do that whit out getting blocked for spam?
[09:00] <pungi_man> no i am installing ArchLinux and I want to kill the nano process, ozette
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> eman_: sudo apt-get install pastebinit; lsmod | pastebinit
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: ctrl+x will exit nano, use the other ctrl if necessary
[09:01] <ozette> pungi_man, oh I see the ctrl button is probably captured by virtual box
[09:01] <pungi_man> ozette, I typed nano /etc/pacman.d/mirrorlist       then made some changes and now I want to close it!
[09:01] <pungi_man> ActionParsnip, I tried ... its not working!
[09:01] <joobie> guys
[09:01] <joobie> is the ubuntu installer meant to support GPT out of the box?
[09:01] <joobie> because i found it such a PITA to setup
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: maybe its a known issue with arch + virtualbox
[09:02] <ozette> pungi_man, left ctrl + x should ask for a save changes
[09:02] <ozette> pungi_man, oof ..
[09:02] <pungi_man> ozette, I tried left and right ctrl ... its not working
[09:03] <ActionParsnip> pungi_man: I'd ask in #vbox and #archlinux
[09:03] <pungi_man> ActionParsnip, wait i will try!
[09:04] <joobie> echo echooo echoooo
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> eman_: as long as you use a pastebin site (like http://pastie.org or similar) it's fine. The command I gave is just a way to get the paste made via CLI
[09:04] <ActionParsnip> eman_: you need to manually copy and paste the URL in here
[09:04] <ozette> pungi_man, that's silly but, good luck :-)
[09:04] <eman_> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196299/
[09:05] <joobie> ee cc hh oo
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> eman_: try:   echo "blacklist rt2800usb" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf > /dev/null       and reboot. If you get no wireless at all, simply remove the last line from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf and reboot again
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> eman_: source https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/460323
[09:08] <eman_> ActionParsnip,  thanks will try that :)
[09:09] <tacirus> Hello folks, I`v got a strange issue with Compiz. Just as I press the shortcut keys to activate "toggle filter" effect, my windows get stuck. Does anybody know what the trouble is?
[09:09] <lewis> why the windows installer is limited as far as allocating hard drive space for ubuntu goes
[09:10] <lewis> im limited to 30gb even though i have 1tera
[09:11] <ActionParsnip> lewis: how much free space do you have though
[09:12] <lewis> its a new system, ActionParsnip, more than enough 1.29tb
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> lewis: If you resize the NTFS in Windows7, you can instal Ubuntu to its own partition. Easier to work with by far
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> lw
[09:13] <ActionParsnip> lewis: any particular reson to want to use wubi?
[09:13] <MonkeyDust> wubi :(
[09:13] <lewis> ActionParsnip: i dont have blank cds :)
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> lewis: got a 1Gb USB stick or SD card?
[09:14] <lewis> ActionParsnip: but the end result is the same, isnt it
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> lewis: no
[09:14] <lewis> ActionParsnip: nope. i just have an external hd
[09:14] <lewis> ActionParsnip, how come the end result is diff
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> lewis: wubi installs to a file on your NTFS, a rel install uses it's own partition and wil not be affected by fragmentation in WIndows
[09:14] <MagnusBS> Got a problem with my wireless, only getting 1mbit of 12mbit, dont know why (fresh on ubuntu).
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> lewis: wubi loop mounts the disk file, then boots it rather than using a true partition
[09:15] <lewis> ok i see
[09:15] <lewis> thanks
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: can you pastebin the output of:  sudo lshw -C network; lsb_release -a; uname -a; sudo rfkill list
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: also, do you dual boot?
[09:15] <lewis> ActionParsnip: is it possible to install it using an external hd
[09:16] <ActionParsnip> lewis: sure, you'll just need a small partition on it to put the ISO on using unetbootin and it will boot
[09:16] <lewis> hmm
[09:16] <lewis> sounds complicated
[09:17] <ActionParsnip> lewis: you can resize NTFS in Windows7 easily
[09:18] <MagnusBS>   *-network                       description: Ethernet interface        product: 82579V Gigabit Network Connection        vendor: Intel Corporation        physical id: 19        bus info: pci@0000:00:19.0        logical name: eth0        version: 04        serial: c8:60:00:e2:26:c1        capacity: 1Gbit/s        width: 32 bits        clock: 33MHz        capabilities: pm msi bus_master cap_list ethernet physical tp 10bt 10bt-fd 100
[09:18] <MagnusBS> autonegotiation        configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=e1000e driverversion=1.5.1-k firmware=0.13-4 latency=0 link=no multicast=yes port=twisted pair        resources: irq:56 memory:f7400000-f741ffff memory:f7439000-f7439fff ioport:f040(size=32)   *-network        description: Wireless interface        product: AR9485 Wireless Network Adapter        vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.        physical id: 0    
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: use a pastebin, as I said. Thanks
[09:18] <MagnusBS> ah
[09:18] <MagnusBS> yeah
[09:18] <FloodBot1> MagnusBS: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:18] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: indeed
[09:21] <lewis> ActionParsnip: I dont want to lose my file
[09:21] <MagnusBS> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196326/
[09:21] <ActionParsnip> lewis: the backups you have made will prevent data loss
[09:22] <MagnusBS> I dont use dual boot, currently only running on Ubuntu
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: source: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1746326
[09:23] <lewis> ActionParsnip: what backups?
[09:23] <MagnusBS> Put this line in terminal: echo "options ath9k nohwcrypt=1" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/ath9k.conf > /dev/null
[09:23] <MagnusBS> ?
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> lewis: if your data is important, you will have made a backup in case of catastrophe
[09:23] <ActionParsnip> MagnusBS: yes, its a single command. Reboot to test
[09:23] <fidel> lewis: the backups everyone SHOULD do in case he feels his files are somehow worth something ;)
[09:24] <joobie> guys
[09:24] <joobie> does ubuntu handle GPT installs
[09:24] <joobie> YES or NO
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> joobie: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#BIOS.2BAC8-GPT_Notes
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> joobie: source: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=ubuntu+handle+GPT+installs   too hard?
[09:25] <joobie> ok
[09:25] <joobie> so why doesnt the grub install handle this
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> joobie: ask in #grub
[09:25] <gordonjcp> joobie: why would it?
[09:25] <joobie> its not really a grub issue
[09:26] <joobie> the partitoin could be created by ubuntu
[09:26]  * ActionParsnip doesn't even know what gpt is, but managed to find some information....weird that
[09:26] <gordonjcp> joobie: if your OS disk is larger than 4TB, you're doing something wrong
[09:27] <joobie> gordonjcp, why?
[09:28] <joobie> .. given you can buy a 4TB 3.5" disk, i think you are living in the past
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: we have a company using doubletake to a 5Tb SAN, works well :)
[09:28] <Iron|2> You know, I remember ubuntu causing me eyestrain, it isn't causing me eyestrain in this version (12.04). What was changed to ubuntu that resulted in this?
[09:28] <fidel> Iron|2: i doubt we can answer what might have caused eestrain for YOU in the past ;)
[09:29] <fidel> reverse logic
[09:29] <Iron|2> it was specifically ubuntu, I think 11.10?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: later drivers, later xorg version maybe
[09:29] <crizis> just.. lulz
[09:29] <Iron|2> probably.
[09:29] <fidel> could be everything and nothing
[09:29] <Iron|2> specifically ubuntu though, as soon as I looked at it, instant headache, now it's fine... so weird.
[09:31] <brainiarc7> Who has ever compiled mesa on Ubuntu from scratch and succeeded?
[09:32] <billc> i would like to connect  a belkin home base control center
[09:32] <Iron|2> billc, is it a driver issue or a configuration issue?
[09:32] <joobie> wats a belkin control center do?
[09:33] <gordonjcp> joobie: I have a couple of 4TB disks; I'm not so stupid as to try to boot off them
[09:33] <billc> it makes lan printers appear wireless, think it is driver
[09:33] <krababbel> joobie: even windows doesn't really support it, backup is screwed
[09:33] <ActionParsnip> billc: can you ping the device's IP?
[09:34] <Iron|2> did you set it up properly on the network? has it worked before?
[09:34] <billc> it works in windows 7
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> billc: doesn't answer the question?
[09:35] <joobie> krababbel, windows is shit
[09:35] <billc> can't get to it in ubuntu
[09:35] <joobie> krababbel, centos / rhel supports it
[09:36] <joobie> gordonjcp, i can boot off mine..
[09:36] <ActionParsnip> billc: can you ping the device from Ubuntu?
[09:36] <joobie> just had to plug the holes with ubuntu installer
[09:36] <joobie> in order to do so
[09:36] <billc> give me the inst please
[09:36] <joobie> but given 2TB+ disks are common these days, it shouldnt be so hard for ubuntu to install on this config
[09:36] <fidel> billc: could you at least try to use full sentences?
[09:37] <fidel> it might help us understand YOU ;)
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> billc: I am asking you a question, if you don't reply to people's questions with the details requested we cannot help you
[09:37] <adekto> i cant get my wireles logitech k360 to work on ubuntu
[09:37] <billc> sorru the instruction to ping the belkin control center
[09:37] <crizis> http://www.catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[09:37] <ActionParsnip> billc: yes, can you ping it's IP?
[09:38] <fidel> billc: open a terminal & enter: ping DE.VI.CE.IP
[09:38] <krababbel> ping it
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> fidel: you do know s/he'll probably just run that exact command ;)
[09:38] <fidel> ActionParsnip: hehe
[09:38] <ActionParsnip> billc: you need to find out the device's IP and try and ping it, does it respond?
[09:38] <fidel> billc: where you replace DE.VI.CE.Ip with the IP-number configured for that specific device
[09:39] <billc> how do i find the ip address
[09:39] <fidel> this command will tell us if you can reach it via your network using simple icmp-echo-requests
[09:40] <ActionParsnip> billc: you can check your routers IP list, or consult your windows install. The printer port will tell you in the printer properties
[10:00] <MagnusBS> Well, the command to fix my internet speed did not work out. So I posted an new topic on ubuntu forums under networking & wireless in hope that someone out there can help me. I also have another problem
[10:01] <T|ASK> Hi, does anyone know a source with game modding tools for Linux. Especially Steam's Source engine related decompiling tools?
[10:01] <gdane1> hi
[10:02] <MagnusBS> Im running ubuntu on 120gb SSD disk, I have 3 other HDD in my pc. I can only connect two of the HDD, when I connect my third HDD ubuntu wont load, stuck on the purple screen in the boot proccess.
[10:02] <gordonjcp> T|ASK: not yet, but they do use Linux internally
[10:02] <gordonjcp> T|ASK: wait until Steam and Source are released for Linux, Real Soon Now...
[10:02] <gdane1> does spp bluetooth keyboard work with ubuntu?
[10:03] <T|ASK> gordonjcp: ok, so there is no decomiling tool right now? Because I wanted to mod something before they come out with Steam for Linux
[10:03] <gdane1> i have hp foundable one and it connects vie bluetooth adapter, but i cant type by this keyboard
[10:03] <gdane1> this isnt hid keyboard
[10:04] <dr_willis> MagnusBS:  hit  esc. or use tect mode to look at any errormessages
[10:04] <T|ASK> gordonjcp: As I see it, I would also need the Steam SDK for Linux... ok, that's what breaks my quetion
[10:04] <MagnusBS> hit esc when its stuck on the purple screen?
[10:04] <dr_willis> yes
[10:04] <dr_willis> or
[10:04] <dr_willis> ! text
[10:05] <MagnusBS> ok, ill try
[10:10] <rigo> what command is used to backup (and restore) the whole / root filesystem?
[10:11] <MonkeyDust> rigo  you can use rsync --progress from to
[10:11] <dr_willis> ! backup
[10:11] <rigo> gosh thanks :)
[10:12] <dr_willis> its all about the details.. where storing the backup. how often. how to restore... and more
[10:13] <ActionParsnip> rigo: its a bit more than a single command
[10:14] <rigo> only "one-time" manual backup, i just dont want to begin from 0 if i ruin something. so if i do something what works fine, i do a backup and delete the previous bakcup. if something goes shitty i restore the last good version. :)
[10:14] <MagnusBS> Im now in the grub menu, what should i look for here?
[10:14] <troulouliou_dev> Hi i installed lxde  + lxdm on an old laptop runnin under ubuntu ; when the computer boots , i have a black screen . I have to pus the standby button then resume to have access to lxdm
[10:14] <MagnusBS> Connected to to mirc at my laptop
[10:15] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: why install lxdm when you already had lightdm
[10:16] <muh2000> does ubuntu have an installer that works from CLI?
[10:16] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, softer , prefer that one and remove lots of dependencies too to prevent massive permanent upgrade
[10:16] <muh2000> because the gui installer sucks hard and doesnt install squat.
[10:16] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, any idea to my problem ?
[10:16] <dr_willis> !text
[10:16] <gdane1> does ubuntu work with spp bluetooth devices?
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: the default instaleer installs a lot of apps, the mini ISO hardly installs anything
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> gdane1: I believe so
[10:17] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: did you have lightdm installed before?
[10:17] <gdane1> hmm may be u know right manual?
[10:17] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: i asked for a way to install from cli since the gui installer does not work. i did not ask for different flavours...
[10:17] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, yes
[10:17] <MagnusBS> In the grub menu i dont have the option to start it with text-only mode
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: its not a different flavour at all, its an installer that installs kernel, boot loader and some package tools
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: no DE, WM, DM etc, just CLI, less than server
[10:18] <dr_willis> MagnusBS:  read what the bot is saying.. you ADD the 'text' option to the end of a line
[10:18] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: you can then install what you wish and build the OS up
[10:18] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: yeah but i have ONE ubuntu install image. i have no other ways of installing right now... and all i need is a way to install it.
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> troulouliou_dev: could try uninstaling lightdm if you aren't going to use it
[10:19] <dr_willis> quiet splash    becomes  -  'quiet splash text' or just 'text'
[10:19] <troulouliou_dev> ActionParsnip, done
[10:19] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: please start reading what i wrote... i didnt look for a minimum install. just an alternative for the failing gui installer
[10:19] <muh2000> is that SOOO hard to understand?
[10:19] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: use the alternate installer then, it installs in text mode but gives a desktop OS
[10:20] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: no access to the alternate installer.
[10:20] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: did you update ubiquity in the liveCD OS before running it?
[10:20] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: no?
[10:20] <muh2000> why would i do that?
[10:21] <ActionParsnip> muh2000:  so it's the latest version before you run it, obviously
[10:21] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: well duh but shouldnt any version be sufficient? i figure since they released the livecd of the LTS ....
[10:22] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: there may be updates which fix issues, its worth doing
[10:23] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: well it complains about having not enough space.... well no wonder when it is running in ram...
[10:24] <rocket_hamster> hello i did apt-get update and now I cant install libsdl1.2-dev http://pastebin.com/xHckdBgG any ideas please? (lastest ubuntu)
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: when you downloaded the ISO, did you MD5 test it before you used it?
[10:25] <epzil0n> hey guys, just a quick question i'm about to install ubuntu and i got 4GB ram and in the past i have always installed a 2GB swap partition if i had 1GB but do i need it when i got 4?
[10:25] <bonzo> Hi, I upgraded from 10.04 to 12.04 and now I can't login with 1 user. Log files aren't helping.
[10:25] <muh2000> ActionParsnip: yes
[10:26] <epzil0n> and if i need/should have one is it enough with 2GB?
[10:26] <bonzo> can anyone tell me where to find why it isn't logging in?
[10:26] <jrib> bonzo: you should say what happens when you try
[10:26] <bonzo> I insert the password, the screen goes black and then i'm back at the login screen
[10:26] <jrib> epzil0n: you should have a swap at least qual to the size of your ram if you want to suspend to disk
[10:27] <Mo> Hi, on Live-CD isn't there a sshd server? Is the only way by installing openssh-server?
[10:27] <epzil0n> jrib: ah ok, so 4GB it is :P
[10:27] <jrib> bonzo: check ~/.xsession-errors (for the user in question) and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:27] <MonkeyDust> Mo  you have to install it
[10:27] <jrib> Mo: not installed by default; yes
[10:27] <epzil0n> jrib: thx :)
[10:27] <Mo> MonkeyDust: Where does the live cd install stuff? If there some unionfs?
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> Mo  in /usr/bin/
[10:28] <MonkeyDust> Mo  but when you switch off, it's gone
[10:28] <Mo> MonkeyDust: So ramdisk? Because fetching all updates would fill my ram then?
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Mo  updates will be gone, when you switch off to pc
[10:29] <Mo> Anyway my old 9.10 live cd cannot get apt-get update anymore, no sources found. I'll look for a newer live cd, if there are still maintained for ppc.
[10:29] <MonkeyDust> Mo  start from the beginning, what do you want to do
[10:31] <ActionParsnip> MonkeyDust: Katmic is EOL
[10:31] <Mo> I need to repartition my Gentoo-PPC, and the ubuntu live cd was always better stuffed than the gentoo-ppc universal disk. But now I need to ssh into the live cd and I've seen there is no sshd, apt-get install doesn't work. I'll look for a newer one than old 9.10
[10:32] <alpre> Does Ubuntu still use Grub1?
[10:32] <ActionParsnip> alpre: not anymore by default, it can be used but its not advised
[10:32] <alpre> ActionParsnip: thanks
[10:32] <dr_willis> an old  unsupported release has the repos moved to some 'archive' server. thats why apt-get is failing - the sources.list is out of date
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> mo: you will need a newer release and you can install openssh-server to get ssh access
[10:33] <Mo> Nice, I'll go for quantal-desktop-powerpc.iso      thanks..
[10:33] <muh2000> is there an updated version of the liveCD?
[10:33] <apg> I do not think so
[10:33] <ActionParsnip> mo: its prerelease and may have issues, if you want stable then go for precise.
[10:34] <ActionParsnip> muh2000: you could try the daily ISO, if one exists
[10:34] <muh2000> hmmm
[10:34] <apg> Ubuntu iso is getting bigger in capacity
[10:35] <bonzo> jrib: nothing get added to xsession when retrying
[10:35] <Iron|2> Hey, I need some help: I have libreoffice3 writer installed(nothing else of libreoffice3). I minimised 3 word windows... they refuse to reopen.
[10:36] <jrib> bonzo: not xsession, "~/.xsession-errors"
[10:36] <crizis> Iron_Chef, try hitting super-w to show all windows
[10:36] <bonzo> jrib: yes sorry that's what i meant
[10:36] <Iron|2> lol, chef.... is super the "windows key?"
[10:36] <crizis> yes
[10:36] <jrib> bonzo: can you login with a fresh new user?
[10:36] <apg> iron: Yes
[10:37] <Iron|2> it worked, but the problem itself is still there
[10:37] <Iron|2> so this is only a workaround, is there any way to fix it? Is it a known issue?
[10:37] <bonzo> jrib: There were 2 users, the second one is the one i'm using now and i can login correctly
[10:37] <Mo> ActionParsnip: You mean http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/precise/daily-live/current/ is the current stable?
[10:38] <apg> Is there anybody here from Indonesia?
[10:38] <Eagleman> How do you type more than 3 Hypervisor?
[10:38] <jrib> bonzo: pastebin ~/.xsession-errors and /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:38] <Eagleman> Hypervisors or Hypervisor's?
[10:38] <jrib> Eagleman: ##english
[10:39] <crizis> Iron|2, unity i assume? just tried opening 2 docs, minimizing them, works fine. clicking dock icon once brings latest one on top, clicking it again brings both 2 windows on screen
[10:40] <Iron|2> yes, I am using unity, clicking it does nothing
[10:40] <Iron|2> rightclicking presents a menu with 3 options: blank(I mean, there's a space that's blank and highlights), lock, quit.
[10:40] <Iron|2> quit does nothing
[10:40] <Iron|2> blank obviously des nothing
[10:41] <drecute> hello all
[10:41] <Iron|2> there is no "all" person here that you speak of
[10:41] <drecute> Please where can i find apxs2?
[10:41] <crizis> Iron|2, did you install writer on _this session_?
[10:41] <dr_willis> !find apxs22
[10:41] <drecute> aplologies
[10:41] <drecute> hello everyone
[10:42] <dr_willis> !find apxs
[10:42] <crizis> Iron|2, i've noticed dock sometimes handless apps buggily until you logout
[10:42] <Iron|2> crizis, I think I did install it on this session (you mean no logoffs or restarts right?)
[10:42] <dr_willis> whats 'apxs'
[10:42] <Iron|2> ok, I will log out and in brb
[10:42] <drecute> dr_willis: I'm using apache prefork and I have apache2-prefork-dev installed
[10:43] <drecute> dr_willis: by what I've read, apxs should be in any of the 2 places
[10:43] <bonzo> jrib: Xorg.0.log http://pastebin.com/Lz60ZLnW xsession-errors http://pastebin.com/Ch6fBtwu
[10:44] <drecute> dr_willis:  as mentioned here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1425646
[10:44] <drecute> dr_willis:  apxs is an apache extension tool
[10:44] <dr_willis> i dont use apachre. so no idea on that.  bot mentioned it in several packages
[10:45] <Iron|2> it appears to be working, thanks.
[10:45] <dr_willis> the apache  -dev packages ;)
[10:45] <drecute> okay
[10:47] <opieng> Anyone know which version of ubuntu does not require hardware with "pae"?
[10:47] <Iron|2> what is pae?
[10:48] <apg> physical address extention?
[10:48]  * Iron|2 doesn't know what that is, me cannot help.
[10:49] <apg> kernel version for 32 bit processor to access more RAM as in 64 bit processor?
[10:49] <m3pow> hey guys !
[10:49] <Iron|2> oh, I know what that is
[10:49] <m3pow> i have a problem after installing ubuntu
[10:49] <Iron|2> a 32 bit version of ubuntu I would guess
[10:49] <gordonjcp> opieng: 64-bit
[10:49] <m3pow> 12.04 64 bit on a laptop
[10:50] <m3pow> sistem starts good after that it becomes hidiously slow
[10:50] <m3pow> any thoughts ?
[10:50] <Iron|2> I don't think the 32 bit version of ubuntu would require pae, it is an optional extension as far as I know.
[10:50] <gordonjcp> m3pow: lots of disk access?
[10:50] <Iron|2> maybe you have a virus.
[10:50] <m3pow> virus on a fresh installed OS ?
[10:50] <gordonjcp> Iron|2: it would if you want more than 4GB
[10:50] <m3pow> everything formated
[10:50] <gordonjcp> it's not a virus
[10:50] <Iron|2> but it wouldn't "require it" though would it?
[10:50] <gordonjcp> viruses don't exist on Linux
[10:51] <m3pow> gordonjcp i did noticed a lot of CPU load
[10:51] <m3pow> 60 ~ 80 without doing anything
[10:51] <Iron|2> what cpu do you have m3pow?
[10:51] <m3pow> C2D P8400 @ 2.26
[10:51] <gordonjcp> m3pow: what does top say?
[10:51] <m3pow> laptop is a HDX 18 , HP
[10:52] <m3pow> i could not use it at all
[10:52] <Iron|2> hmm, my guess would be overheating forcing the cpu to underclock itself.
[10:52] <m3pow> on win , for a while now
[10:52] <Iron|2> that guess is based on experience.
[10:52] <Iron|2> are you currently on windows now?
[10:52] <m3pow> yes....grrr
[10:52] <apg> self throttling?
[10:52] <Iron|2> http://www.techpowerup.com/realtemp/
[10:52] <Iron|2> grab realtemp, for windows
[10:52] <m3pow> you wanna know the CPU temp ?
[10:53] <Iron|2> what are the temperatures, and apg, yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I've experienced it before.
[10:53] <Iron|2> I do
[10:53] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: there are viruses, just very few :)
[10:54] <gordonjcp> ActionParsnip: there are no practical ones
[10:54] <apg> you can install psensor for ubuntu in par with realtemp
[10:54] <m3pow> i got a 52degree centigrade tem
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> gordonjcp: oh absolutely but they are around. There is a Java one which affects linux nowadays
[10:55] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: do you use a hybrid video card (Intal and nvidia for example)
[10:55] <jrib> bonzo: probably the same as https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-session/+bug/583525 . There's some comment there about it possibly being related to xfs (do you have that installed?).  If not, then I would suggest renaming most of your config files and slowly naming them back to narrow down the culprit
[10:55] <Iron|2> apg, i just installed psensor... it only seems to show cpu usage.
[10:56] <m3pow> ActionParsnip i have a nvidia 9600m dedicated GPU
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: no intel GPU as well?
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: which nvidia driver are you using?
[10:56] <m3pow> latest
[10:56] <Iron|2> is it trying to update?
[10:56] <m3pow> remember i am on win now ...grrr
[10:56] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: what does nvidia-setings say the version is?
[10:57] <m3pow> because i could not make the damn thing run propertly
[10:57] <apg> iron|2: install lm_sensors first
[10:57] <m3pow> i got the latest from nvidia website mate ..when i tried to install the linux driver
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: there are packages for the drivers, you don't need the nvidia site at all
[10:58] <apg> iron|2: then, when lm_sensors installed, try this command: sudo sensors-detect. Then, re-open psensor
[10:58] <m3pow> that i did not know as i am relatively new to this
[10:58] <bonzo> jrib: xfs is not installed. Which config files should i rename? I already tried Xorg.conf .
[10:59] <jrib> bonzo: the ones in your ~
[10:59] <m3pow> ActionParsnip where can i get these packages ?
[11:00] <apg> My Ubuntu nowadays takes more time to enter unity, hdd acces indicator-light is active for a longer time
[11:00] <m3pow> you have the latest one ?
[11:00] <ActionParsnip> m3pow: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-x-swat/x-update; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install nvidia-current
[11:01] <m3pow> thank you !
[11:01] <Iron|2> didn't work
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> apg: have you tested your RAM?
[11:01] <Iron|2> oh well.
[11:02] <apg> but it seems that it is not a case when I'm entering Kde
[11:03] <ActionParsnip> apg: what is the output of: lsb_release -sc
[11:03] <apg> ActionParsnip: or other xfce and lxde
[11:04] <apg> actionparsnip: precise
[11:04] <nicklas> Hi All. I'm running amazon ec2 with Ubuntu 12.04 server. When ssh'ing to the machine I cannot use tab to autocomplete and up to see previous commands. Whats wrong?
[11:04] <Iron|2> apg, how many cores does your laptop have?
[11:05] <apg> 2 cores, 4 threads
[11:05] <Iron|2> nicklas, did you try the history command?
[11:05] <Iron|2> your ubuntu may simply be trying to patch itself
[11:05] <apg> core i5 2410m
[11:05] <nicklas> history: not found
[11:05] <dr_willis> nicklas:  you may not be using bash, or the bash scripts are not enabling completion
[11:05] <Iron|2> did you select automatic updates?
[11:05] <dr_willis> echo $SHELL
[11:05] <nicklas> Just used quick start so no idea.
[11:05] <apg> iron|2:  yes
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> apg: maybe its a compiz thing, if yuo log in to the Unity2D session, is it ok?
[11:06] <Iron|2> hmm, I would try turning nyour laptop on and leaving it for a bit
[11:06] <nicklas> echo $SHELL: /bin/sh
[11:06] <dr_willis> there ya go... use bash..
[11:06] <nicklas> Thanks alot
[11:06] <apg> actionparsnip: the same thing with ubuntu 2d
[11:06] <nicklas> :)
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> !away > md_5|away
[11:07] <md_5|away> Still annoys me how people do that
[11:07] <Iron|2> actually, isn't 2540m got that funky intel hd graphics? you know, the one that HATES unity?
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> apg: so its not a WM issue, if you make a new user and log in as that is it ok? Log in twice to the session so that the blank configs can be created
[11:07] <md_5|away> I go away twice a day..
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: then don't change nick
[11:07] <md_5|away> Some people join / part 5 times a day
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: I leave and go a lot, you don't have to change nick, just leave
[11:08] <md_5|away> ActionParsnip the difference being?
[11:08] <apg> iron|2: I have a dedicated nvidia card
[11:08] <Iron|2> woah
[11:08] <md_5|away> A nick change is the same as a join part
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: yes, joining and parting is fine, but no need to chjange nick, thats all
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: if you want to idle, just idle
[11:08] <md_5|away> .... how is joining / parting better than nick changing?
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: ive been dipping in and out
[11:08] <billc> i have tried to find an ip address for my belkin home base control center even in widows ipconfig /all to no avail
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: because the user can't control that
[11:09] <Iron|2> apg, the second and third gen core series of cpus are capable of running in either integrated or dedicated. Go into your nvidia control panel, find the setting that says graphics processor or something along those lines
[11:09] <Iron|2> force it to use your "high performance" nvidia processor
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: but reducing excessive and unecessary text helps the channel
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> md_5|away: its channel policy too, hence the factoid
[11:09] <Iron|2> also, 540m?
[11:10] <apg> iron|2: yes, that's right
[11:11] <apg> actionparnship: I have another user and it is also affected
[11:11] <Iron|2> apg, nothing significant about my asking, I just find it entertaining to correctly guess other people's hardware
[11:11] <Iron|2> you didn't choose that 540m over a 630m though did you?
[11:12] <apg> the 630m had not been released yet at the time
[11:13] <apg> as far as I am aware
[11:14] <orogor> hi
[11:14] <Iron|2> alright, no probs... btw, the 630m is a renamed 540m (I have one).
[11:14] <apg> orogor, hi
[11:14] <orogor> considering than system-config-lvm is broken , is there any gui left for managing lvm ?
[11:14] <orogor> apart evms
[11:15] <opieng> Iron|2 sorry for the late response, I tried the i386 desktop version and it says requires "pae" is this suprising?
[11:16] <Iron|2> INCREDIBLY, did you try a 1686? also, if your cpu is 64 bit capable, you should try a 64 bit version of ubuntu (the only cpu I know that isn't 64 bit capable is celerons).
[11:17] <Iron|2> pentiums, cores, xeons etc are all 64 bit capable
[11:17] <opieng> Iron|2 lol I have a celeron
[11:17] <Iron|2> well there's your problem
[11:17] <Iron|2> try the 1686 version
[11:17] <opieng> oh
[11:17] <ActionParsnip> apg: pentium 3 isnt 64bit :)
[11:18] <LorSamPau_w> and 2 and 1
[11:18] <Iron|2> let's just ignore everything before and including pentium 4
[11:18] <opieng> Iron|2 where can I find the 1686 version?
[11:19] <opieng> I can't seem to find it?
[11:19] <dr_willis> lubuntu and xubuntu vome with the non-pae kernel by default also
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: Core Duo 1.2GHz CPU   is 32bit dual core
[11:19] <Iron|2> hmm, I'm not sure. lemme have a look
[11:19] <apg> I'm using precise 64bit version
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: it is, I own one
[11:20] <Iron|2> well there's an acception to every rule I guess
[11:20] <Iron|2> I mean exception
[11:20] <Iron|2> no rule is accepted completely
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: so not all....most
[11:21] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: http://ark.intel.com/m/products/27240/Intel-Core-Duo-Processor-U2500-(2M-Cache-1_20-GHz-533-MHz-FSB)  ;)
[11:22] <Iron|2> I can't find it either. Weird
[11:24] <opieng> There doesn't seem to to be a 1686 version here? http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> opieng: http://releases.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-12.04.1-alternate-i386.iso   like that?
[11:25] <ActionParsnip> opieng: MD5 = b4512076d85a1056f8a35f91702d81f9
[11:25] <Iron|2> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD
[11:26] <Iron|2> try downloading the netinstaller x86.
[11:26] <Iron|2> at the very least, it won't take a long time to find out it doesn't work
[11:28] <opieng> will give them a try, thanks
[11:29] <Eagleman> The following packages have been kept back:
[11:29] <Eagleman>   linux-headers-server linux-image-server linux-server
[11:29] <Eagleman> How do i install those?
[11:30] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:30] <dr_willis> perhaps
[11:30] <geirha> Eagleman: update-manager
[11:30] <bike> hey. i get a "not authorized" when i try to reboot lubuntu, any clues?
[11:31] <Eagleman> update manager?
[11:31] <Eagleman> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade worked
[11:31] <dinamicex1> Hi! I'm using gnome classic and I can't see my open windows on the bottom panel. What should I add to the panel? I also didn't saw the 4 rectangles for workspaces but I added them with add to panel.
[11:31] <Eagleman> what are those packages?
[11:31] <geirha> Eagleman: the kernel, the very core of Ubuntu.
[11:31] <Iron|2> dr willis, isn't that likely to uh, break stuff?
[11:31] <dr_willis> !info linux-server
[11:32] <Iron|2> I know I did that on an ubuntu once, it upgraded to an unstable version and was uh, unstable.
[11:32] <Eagleman> lets hope my pc will reboot
[11:32] <dr_willis> kernel related support packages it seems
[11:32] <Eagleman> i dont want to troubleshoot for 5 hours aigan
[11:32] <dr_willis> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   does not upgrade to the next release
[11:32] <Iron|2> are you trying to set up a server?
[11:32] <geirha> Eagleman: The previous kernel will still be installed; you can select it from the grub menu if the new one gives you issues
[11:32] <gordonjcp> Iron|2: that's not what "unstable" means
[11:32] <Eagleman> well if i do reboot?
[11:33] <dr_willis> often kernel packages and a few otheres get 'held'
[11:33] <Eagleman> will it be succesfull?
[11:33] <gordonjcp> Iron|2: if you are running say Debian Unstable it shouldn't crash
[11:33] <Iron|2> it didn't crash. It was just really ... weird
[11:33] <Eagleman> well i am rebooting
[11:33] <Eagleman> god bless me...
[11:33] <gordonjcp> Iron|2: "Unstable" means that the nature of packages may change at any moment, so don't get used to having the quirks of version 1.0.34.tuesday.lunchtime.6.4.alpha1
[11:33] <apg> amen, :)
[11:34] <Eagleman> well i can still login
[11:34] <Eagleman> :)
[11:35] <Eagleman> another thing
[11:35] <Eagleman> when i start puty and recieve this:  login as:
[11:35] <Eagleman> and type in my username i have to wait about 10 seconds to let it show the next thing
[11:35] <Eagleman> How could that happen?
[11:36] <geirha> Eagleman: slow connection..?
[11:36] <Eagleman> no
[11:36] <Eagleman> everything else works fine
[11:36] <Eagleman> its just the first login
[11:36] <Iron|2> type free -m
[11:36] <Eagleman> what is that?
[11:36] <geirha> Eagleman: Specify the username before clicking connect. E.g. username@hostname instead of just hostname
[11:36] <Iron|2> it will say how much ram you have free
[11:37] <Eagleman>   total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[11:37] <Eagleman> Mem:          7898       1100       6797          0         55        332
[11:37] <Iron|2> is that on your remove server or on your desktop?
[11:37] <Eagleman> on my server
[11:37] <Iron|2> yeah, seems fine, it could be what geirha said, your username not being entered properly slowing things down.
[11:37] <geirha> it's the next line that shows how much free space you have though
[11:37] <Eagleman> i run windows so it would be hard to get some output out of that
[11:37] <drecute> Is there a public doc for how to compile php5 for ubuntu server 12.04?
[11:37] <geirha> err, I mean free mem
[11:37] <Eagleman> -/+ buffers/cache:        712       7185
[11:38] <fidel> hi - i am testing the first time to setup an apt-mirror - basically for testing & interla usage in my localnet. right now i am using apt-mirror - but somehow i remember there are other tools to use as well - insteed of apt-mirror. any references from your experiences?
[11:38] <geirha> Eagleman: right, so about 7G free
[11:38] <Eagleman> yes
[11:38] <Eagleman> So what is this?
[11:38] <Eagleman>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[11:38] <Eagleman> Mem:          7898       1100       6797          0         55        332
[11:39] <drecute> Is there a public doc for how to compile php5 for ubuntu server 12.04?
[11:39] <Eagleman> geirha?
[11:39] <geirha> Eagleman: it's output from the free command ...
[11:39] <Eagleman> lol
[11:40] <Eagleman> i mean what does it say used 1100
[11:40] <Eagleman> and the next line 712
[11:40] <geirha> Eagleman: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ should explain it
[11:40] <Eagleman> and how can i find out of the swap memory is ever used?
[11:41] <fidel> drecute: most likely part of the official docs isnt it?
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> drecute  there's also #ubuntu-server
[11:41] <Eagleman> So why is the first login on puty so slow?
[11:41] <fidel> drecute: apart from that - why arent you using just precompiled packages? in need for a specific version
[11:41] <Eagleman> i have got 7hb of free ram
[11:41] <fidel> ?
[11:41] <Eagleman> gb
[11:42] <yopspanjers> You can use the system monitor
[11:42] <geirha> Eagleman: Possibly it loads a bunch of libraries from disk the first time
[11:42] <Eagleman> and how can i speed it up?
[11:42] <drecute> fidel: I don't have any problems with that
[11:43] <Iron|2> Eagleman, if you log out, then in again, is it still slow?
[11:43] <drecute> fidel:  if you say I can just do --with-apxs=/path with the existing installation, then that will be fine
[11:43] <bike> hrmf, the latest 3.2.0-30-x64 has ahteros 9k problems
[11:43] <Eagleman> what do you mean with log out log in
[11:43] <Eagleman> close puty?
[11:44] <Iron|2> also, the reason it says used 7gb, is it means it's caching data to the ram, but if that ram needs to be used for an actual program to run, it is free to be used by an actual program
[11:44] <Iron|2> linux does that to make itself go faster
[11:44] <bike> sometimes i have to rmmod modprobe it
[11:44] <Iron|2> and yes, if you close putty and re launch it and connect again, is it still slow?
[11:44] <tyonee> hi
[11:44] <Eagleman> yes it is still slow
[11:44] <Eagleman> i duplicated it
[11:44] <ActionParsnip> !atemyram
[11:45] <drecute> fidel: with the existing precompiled packages, can I just do ./configure --with-apxs=/path?
[11:45] <Iron|2> I can't help you further than that.
[11:46] <tyonee> how can i anonimize myself out of certain logs?
[11:46] <Iron|2> sorry
[11:46] <drecute> and php will be recompiled only with that single module?
[11:46] <Eagleman> And is it safe to remove the swap partition?
[11:46] <Eagleman> i dont have the idea that it is being used
[11:46] <Eagleman> not sure how to test it
[11:46] <Iron|2> it is safe, not recommended
[11:46] <Eagleman> its eating 8gb of my 60 gb space
[11:46] <Eagleman> while it is not in use
[11:47] <Eagleman> ssd
[11:47] <Iron|2> swap will enable you to sleep/hibernate
[11:47] <Iron|2> if you remove the swap, hibernate won't work
[11:47] <Eagleman> i never sleep or hibernate on my server
[11:47] <Eagleman> no purpose at all
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: 8Gb for an install of Ubuntu is pretty typical, you can remove old kernels to free space as well as use Bleachbit to clear temp stuffs
[11:48] <theuns> Hallo
[11:48] <Eagleman> well why let 8GB of space go to waste when it is never used
[11:48] <drecute> fidel
[11:48] <Eagleman> well i think it is not used
[11:48] <MaxMuts> hoi
[11:48] <evilbutts> my external drive isn't showing up in ubuntu but when i use the disk manager it says it's mounted
[11:48] <Eagleman> What else is it being used for?
[11:48] <evilbutts> im pretty new to ubuntu what can i do
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: then you can delete the swap partition and resize the others into the unallocated space
[11:49] <Eagleman> What else is it being used for?
[11:49] <fidel> drecute: i dont know - never needed that option
[11:49] <Eagleman> is it like a page file for windows
[11:49] <drecute> fidel:  I mean is it possible I can just recompile again only with the new module instead of recompiling again with every dependency
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: yes, same functionality
[11:49] <dhanasekaran> !checkinstall
[11:50] <dhanasekaran> !checkinstall | dhana
[11:50] <Eagleman> Ok how do i remove it
[11:50] <Eagleman> i am using LVM
[11:50] <fidel> drecute: sounds more like a #php question to me - considered asking in #php as well?
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: ive not use lvm myself, maybe others can advise
[11:50] <drecute> fidel:  except I get an invite
[11:51] <Eagleman> How do i remove the swap or resize the swap partition on ubuntu 12.04 server LVM
[11:51] <dhanasekaran> Hi Guys automated way build package  .deb and .rpm from source code any tool available please guide me guys..
[11:52] <princesje> heeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:52] <MaxMuts> hoi
[11:52] <princesje> euj mats k zit naast je
[11:52] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: read the checkinstall factoid above
[11:52] <princesje> *max
[11:52] <princesje> wies hier online?
[11:52] <dhanasekaran> !factoid
[11:53] <fidel> !nl > princesje
[11:53] <fidel> lets hope that was dutch
[11:53] <Eagleman> How do i remove the swap or resize the swap partition on ubuntu 12.04 server LVM
[11:54] <dhanasekaran> Hi guys any landscape alternative is there.. for debian based machine.
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> !info landscape
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> !find landscape
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> !info landscape-client
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: is it that?
[11:56] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: debian also isn't supported here, ask in #debian
[11:57] <dhanasekaran> ActionParsnip, It's a commercial tool, i want open source tool, landscape server alternative tool
[11:57] <MonkeyDust> dhanasekaran  landscape IS the alternative
[11:58] <helpme22> hail !
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: its still supported in #debian not here, this is ubuntu support
[11:59] <dhanasekaran> MonkeyDust, it's commercial product, i want open source free tool
[11:59] <fidel> dhanasekaran: yep you told us that already ;)
[11:59] <luuk> OLA
[11:59] <luuk> hahahaha
[11:59] <helpme22> hail ! my friend
[11:59] <luuk> yeahbuddy
[11:59] <helpme22> ola!
[12:00] <fidel> !en > helpme22
[12:00] <dhanasekaran> ActionParsnip, i support only Ubuntu, am running running ubuntu, i told debian based machines.
[12:00] <MaxMuts> hoi
[12:00] <luuk> eey
[12:00] <MaxMuts> lol
[12:00] <luuk> looool
[12:00] <MaxMuts> loooooooooooooooooooooooooool
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: can you give the output of:   lsb_release -sc   please
[12:00] <Pici> luuk, MaxMuts: This is a support channel, please thake the nonsense to PM or elsehwere.
[12:00] <dhanasekaran> ActionParsnip, precise
[12:01] <dhanasekaran> ActionParsnip, why?..
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> dhanasekaran: just checking :)
[12:01] <luuk> aight people from the hole world
[12:01] <dhanasekaran> ActionParsnip, 12..04.1
[12:02] <dhanasekaran> ActionParsnip, cool, any same type tool available for ubuntu
[12:02] <MonkeyDust> dhanasekaran  maybe Zimbra is what you want
[12:02] <MaxMuts> hoi
[12:02] <luuk> hoi
[12:02] <luuk> hpo
[12:02] <luuk> hpo
[12:02] <FloodBot1> luuk: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:03] <dhanasekaran> MonkeyDust, i thing Zimbra is a mail server
[12:03] <fidel> !enter > luuk
[12:03] <MaxMuts> heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey
[12:03] <fidel> MaxMuts: calm down and see what Pici told you already
[12:03] <MaxMuts> ok
[12:04] <helpme22> why my ubuntu memory usage keeps growing after a day or two of usage ?
[12:05] <fidel> helpme22: this might have several reasons - one might be a buggy app - but we cant tell you that out of the box
[12:05] <helpme22> how about you tell me how to disable the memory cache thing ?
[12:05] <fidel> helpme22: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ might be interesting as well ;)
[12:05] <Iron|2> helpme22: you don't want to disable memory cache, it won't hinder performance, only increase it.
[12:05] <Pici> dhanasekaran: There are a bunch of things that provide similar services to Landscape, but nothing that I'm aware of that is all integrated together.  Things like puppet or nagios.
[12:07] <dhanasekaran> Pici, I want push packages server to client , puppet for configuration system, nagios for monitoring system
[12:07] <dhanasekaran> Any tools available from packages from server to client
[12:07] <helpme22> Iron|2:  if you buy me RAM i won't
[12:07] <helpme22> shippong on you too
[12:08] <Iron|2> buyyourownram.bin
[12:09] <dr_willis> put az swap file on the cloud. ;)
[12:09] <drecute> where's php source stored on ubuntu server 12.04?
[12:09] <drecute> where's php5 source stored on ubuntu server 12.04?
[12:09] <jrib> drecute: why?
[12:10] <dr_willis> you mean the php5 source code you compile to get php5?
[12:10] <drecute> jrib: i want to recompile php5 using the source on ubuntu already
[12:11] <jrib> !source | drecute
[12:11] <jrib> drecute: but I'm still not sure why you would want to do that
[12:11] <Pici> dhanasekaran: I can't remember the name of the thing that does that, sorry. I haven't had my caffiene yet today though ;)
[12:11] <drecute> meaning I want to run ./configure from that source dir
[12:12] <jrib> Pici: chef?  (I have no idea what the question is and also just woke-up)
[12:12] <dr_willis> drecute:  and your end goal is ?
[12:12] <drecute> jrib: to recompile with apxs
[12:12] <jrib> drecute: right... but what's the point?
[12:13] <dr_willis> so the question is 'how to enable apxs on php5'
[12:13] <drecute> jrib: to recompile with apxs
[12:13] <drecute> dr_willis:  yes
[12:15] <jrib> drecute: from a quick read of the rules file, it seems to already be build with apxs
[12:16] <drecute> jrib: can you show me that file?
[12:16] <jrib> drecute: apt-get source php5, then read debian/rules in the php5* directory
[12:16] <Layke> I'm reinstalling Ubuntu from my 2TB disk, to my SSD. Any tips for making this go smoothly? dpkg --get-selections > packages.txt... to backup packages. But is there anything else I should think of?
[12:16] <Layke> Like configs? I'm not too sure about making sure my configs are kept safe.
[12:16] <Iron|2> backup your /home folder
[12:16] <Iron|2> I don't know how, but that's the first thing to do
[12:17] <baizon> deja-dup can backup your home folder
[12:18] <Iron|2> and it looks like it's installed already.
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Layke: configs are stored in hidden folders in $HOME alongside your userdata. You can see them with:  ls -a $HOME
[12:18] <geirha> Layke: Install them side by side, copy the stuff you need from the old install as you go
[12:18] <Iron|2> Here's a question, can I put my home folder from a partition on my HDD, onto a flash drive and then put another copy of ubuntu onto my flash drive and have both ubuntus share the same /home folder? I don't want details simple yes or no, and also general indication of difficulty.
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: sure, just add configs to mount the partition as /home in both
[12:19] <Layke> geirha, The bootloader is on my SSD. The 2TB disk that I mistakenly originally installed Ubuntu onto.. will that still be accessible if I wipe the bootloader on the SSD. (I'm 100% sure that it should be right?)
[12:19] <Iron|2> okay, I wil llearn about that later, because as you probably guessed: I intend to do this.
[12:19] <geirha> Layke: Yes, you'll be able to boot both systems, because the new install will detect the old and add an entry for that as well
[12:20] <Layke> Okay. Well, I shouldn't really need to back anything up then I think.
[12:20] <geirha> Layke: But more importantly, you can mount the partitions from the old install on /mnt or similar, and copy out whatever you need
[12:20] <Iron|2> What music players in the ubuntu repository can I use that are less resource intensive than rhythmbox?
[12:20] <Iron|2> I would like as little cpu and ram usage as possible.
[12:21] <Layke> I don't intent on touching the 2TB drive for anything.
[12:21] <esmirlin> hey guys where can i ask about the coming ubuntu gnome remix 12.10¿
[12:21] <geirha> Layke: It's always a good idea to do backups though
[12:21] <Iron|2> Layke, backing up your /home drive with deja dup should be all you need to use then.
[12:21] <Iron|2> without doing anything too complex
[12:21] <Layke> Thinking through, I'm not all to sure what I need to backup to be honest. My git repositories are all that's important mostly. I'll backup /home anyway
[12:22] <OerHeks> Iron|2, Quodlibetis a light musicplayer. i am sure there are more.
[12:23] <Iron|2> also, why is synaptic package manager not installed by default?
[12:23] <Iron|2> is there some horrible bug in it?
[12:23] <ssta> Iron|2: because it was deemed too "unfriendly" for newbies
[12:23] <dr_willis> disk space limitations
[12:23] <mevvis_> gh
[12:23] <dr_willis> 700mb iso size..
[12:23] <mevvis_> and dvd image?
[12:23] <Iron|2> but I'm a newbie
[12:24] <dr_willis> had to make room for moar wallpaper
[12:24] <dr_willis> dvd release has more languages is all i belive
[12:24] <Orpheon> my laptop's ubuntu is behaving strangely
[12:24] <OerHeks> Iron|2, if you are a newbie, howecom you know such details?
[12:24] <Orpheon> on boot, lightdm cannot start
[12:24] <Iron|2> actually, I agree, it was unfriendly when I first tried... at least it isn't horribly broken
[12:24] <Orpheon> Using the backup console to manually "startx" works
[12:24] <dr_willis> 12.10 will be on dvd. but i dont think it will be a full 4gb
[12:24] <Layke> Cool. Deja backup looks pretty cool. Just so I understand, it stores it against my Ubuntu One account? So it's all cloud based?
[12:24] <Iron|2> I'm not a newbie, I'm a beginner now. I have upgraded.
[12:25] <Iron|2> Layke, you can sore it somewhere else if you want.
[12:26] <Orpheon> lightdm log says that lightdm-greeter cannot be executed: Permission denied
[12:26] <Orpheon> can anyone help me?
[12:26] <Orpheon> :(
[12:27] <Iron|2> did you try, punching it in the face?
[12:27] <Orpheon> Iron|2: I tried pretty much everything including that
[12:27] <Iron|2> darn, well I got nothing else
[12:27] <Orpheon> sticks don't help either
[12:27] <Orpheon> no-one have an idea?
[12:28] <gordonjcp> Orpheon: sounds like a damaged installation
[12:28] <Orpheon> gordonjcp: the installation was fine before
[12:28] <Orpheon> and I don't remember upgrading
[12:28] <Orpheon> what could have happened is that I fumbled around with compiz
[12:28] <dr_willis> sudo service lightdm start         works or not?
[12:29] <Orpheon> dr_willis: does the same thing as normal boot
[12:29] <Orpheon> aka show a black screen saying Pulseaudio has been started
[12:29] <dr_willis> user settings should not be affecting lightdm
[12:29] <Orpheon> something about sanet being started
[12:30] <Orpheon> I checked the file that it could not exeute because permissions
[12:30] <dr_willis> this is messages on the lightdm  screen at boot?
[12:30] <Orpheon> dr_willis: yes
[12:30] <Orpheon> I can't really take a screenshot, sorry
[12:30] <Orpheon> do you want the exact lines?
[12:31] <dr_willis> cou;ld try a purge/reinstall of lightdm. or try gdm as a test
[12:31] <Orpheon> problem is I don't have internet
[12:32] <Orpheon> is there any downloadable package I could use?
[12:32] <dr_willis> no idea. i always am networked
[12:32] <dr_willis> ;)
[12:32] <Orpheon> lucky you
[12:32] <mevvis_> just startx
[12:33] <dr_willis> so this pc is totaly stand alone and is nevet on the internet?
[12:33] <Orpheon> not for a while
[12:33] <Orpheon> yes
[12:33] <Orpheon> trying to download lightdm deb package on phone right now
[12:33] <dr_willis> just have it do a startx as the right user at boot time. ;)
[12:34] <Orpheon> that has a few problems
[12:34] <dr_willis> i would also fsck the partitions to verify them
[12:34] <Orpheon> 1) there's a certain key that disables wifi which can't be pressed during startx
[12:35] <Orpheon> 2) Unity2d is the activated
[12:35] <Orpheon> 3) My parents will need to use this laptop in some time, and they aren't the type to love typing commands
[12:35] <Calinou> Iron|2, it is installed by default in xubuntu though
[12:36] <Calinou> as a music browser, try gmusicbrowser, it is the default xubuntu music player
[12:36] <dr_willis> but  you said it dident have internet... or you mean you can ONLY have internet  from the gui login first
[12:36] <Orpheon> dr_willis: found a lightdm deb package
[12:36] <Orpheon> downloading now
[12:36] <Orpheon> I'll tell you in a moment the results
[12:39] <ryan_> Hii all
[12:39] <ubuntusr> Can anyone tell me if I should be worried about this error when I do "apt-get install unison": WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! ?
[12:40] <ryan_> how do we install nfs world on ubuntu?
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> ubuntusr: can you use a pastebin and give the output of:   sudo apt-get update
[12:40] <dr_willis> nfs world?
[12:40] <ubuntusr> sure
[12:40] <ryan_> Yess nfs world
[12:40] <dr_willis> !nfs
[12:40] <helpme22> he means the world unauthentic
[12:40] <helpme22> word*
[12:40] <ryan_> ty im checking it ! :D
[12:41] <helpme22> ubuntusr:  it's like saying unoffical source
[12:41] <dr_willis> no idea how 'world' figures into nfs....
[12:41] <helpme22> not guaranteed to be c lean from manuplation
[12:41] <ubuntusr> http://pastebin.com/c8h3c6LX
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> helpme22: probably just added a PPA without the GPG key :)
[12:41] <helpme22> dr_willis:  thank you for being stupid
[12:41] <helpme22> go save your country.. smart kid
[12:41] <helpme22> they need somebody like you
[12:41] <dr_willis> helpme22:  any time.
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> ubuntusr: what is output after: Reading package lists... Done   ?
[12:41] <KnoWon> Hey -- anyone want to try something seriously hilarious/exciting? -- THIS IS *NOT* BOTSPAM -- ... PM me for details!
[12:42] <ubuntusr> @ActioParsnip: there's no output after that
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> ubuntusr: ok, can you run:  sudo apt-get upgrade     does it upgrade without a warning or error?
[12:42] <killer_> is there a tool that i can use to make iso file by using 2 different folders...(like i wanna make iso  which contains 2 of the folders in my current directory)
[12:42] <Iron|2> if it's not botspam, then just say it here.
[12:43] <Iron|2> or if it's not other scam, just say it here
[12:43] <dr_willis> if its off topic.. please dont..
[12:43] <KnoWon> Iron|2: not spam/scam but i don't necessarily want it public :P Heh
[12:43] <Iron|2> I'll pass
[12:43] <Iron|2> busy
[12:43] <Eagleman> How do i remove the swap or resize the swap partition on ubuntu 12.04 server LVM
[12:43] <ubuntusr> @ActionParsnip: will sudo apt-get upgrade try to upgrade me to a new Ubuntu?  I'm nervous about breaking things if I do that.
[12:44] <Iron|2> Eagleman, try gparted which is a partition manager, look up a tutorial on how to use it, but it's pretty easy.
[12:44] <dr_willis> upgrade = upgrades current packages. not the release
[12:44] <Iron|2> although I still wouldn't recommend it
[12:44] <Eagleman> i cant right now
[12:44] <Iron|2> then you will have to wait.
[12:44] <Eagleman> cant i use another tool?
[12:44] <Eagleman> in puty
[12:44] <ubuntusr> ah, ok
[12:44] <Iron|2> you can use gparted
[12:44] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  cfdisk, fdisk, perhaps others
[12:44] <Iron|2> the command line version
[12:44] <Eagleman> i am on a cli
[12:45] <dr_willis> 'parted
[12:45] <Iron|2> oh, right
[12:45] <Iron|2> the g stands for gnome right?
[12:45] <dr_willis> 'parted' is the cli of gparted
[12:45] <Eagleman> i've formatted a partition before for my other disk
[12:45] <dr_willis> i always do disk operations like that from a live cd
[12:45] <Iron|2> he's doing it to a remote server
[12:46] <dr_willis> one way to make it A NON SERVER. ;)
[12:47] <dr_willis> doing what exactly?
[12:47] <Iron|2> general positive comment about ubuntu 12.04: you can drag windows around in workspace switcher now, hooray! :)
[12:47] <Eagleman> i dont want a gui xD
[12:48] <Iron|2> then uninstall it
[12:48] <Iron|2> sudo apt-get remove xorg
[12:48] <Iron|2> sudo apt-get remove unity
[12:48] <Eagleman> what?
[12:48]  * dr_willis consides the console a text based gui
[12:48] <Eagleman> i dont even have it
[12:48] <Eagleman> i am running cli
[12:48] <ubuntusr> I realized I sent the wrong output for sudo apt-get update.
[12:48] <ubuntusr> Here is what I get:
[12:48] <ubuntusr> http://pastebin.com/4DHZCZfT
[12:48] <ubuntusr> Sorry about that.
[12:48] <Iron|2> oh yeah, you have to rever to a real terminal, which feeds in paper instructions, one character at a time.
[12:49] <ubuntusr> apt-get upgrade says
[12:49] <ubuntusr> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[12:49] <Eagleman> rm /
[12:49] <c-real> do you know how to restart unity just like we could with gnome (ctrl+alt+bksp) ??
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> ubuntusr: karmic is EOL, no support and no updates
[12:49] <dr_willis> Iron|2:  been there done that.. and greenbar printing terminals
[12:49] <ubuntusr> oh, ok, so i should install a new distro?
[12:49] <Iron|2> or would dr willis consider that gui still, do we have to use a thought controlled interface?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> ubuntusr: just a newer release and you'll be fine
[12:50] <ubuntusr> Ok, thank you!
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> ubuntusr: 12.04 is the latest stable as well as being LTS
[12:52] <Eagleman> Isnt there a easy way to resize the swap partition lol
[12:52] <Eagleman> or to remove it
[12:53] <MiteshShah> I'm come to very strange problem as a root user i'm run the crontab -e to add cron jobs like (* * * * * date &> /dev/pts/2) but its never execute
[12:54] <MiteshShah> i'm check weather my cron service is running or not biut its already running
[12:54] <MiteshShah> Any idea?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> MiteshShah: so every minute of every day you want the command to run?
[12:56] <MiteshShah> ActionParsnip, no but for testing i'm run this command and its never execute :(
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> MiteshShah: have you tried restarting the cron service?
[12:57] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  if it was on a normal partition it would be easy
[12:57] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  you neeed more swap?
[12:57] <Eagleman> well lvm should be easy to resize right?
[12:57] <Eagleman> i dont want any swap
[12:57] <dr_willis> i never use lvm.
[12:58] <Eagleman> its eating 8gb of my disk and its only 6gb big
[12:58] <Eagleman> 60gb*
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> thats like the windows 1949 edition joke pic
[12:58] <Eagleman> what?
[12:59] <MiteshShah> ActionParsnip, service cron restart (Already done)
[12:59] <dr_willis> with lvm you should be able to delete the partiton.  and edit fstab to not activate it
[12:59] <Eagleman> so how do i delete the partition?
[13:00] <MiteshShah> ActionParsnip, before asking help i'm try everything that i know but i'm now unble to solve this problem my self so i'm asked here
[13:00] <Eagleman> ./dev/mapper/eagleman-swap_1 none                swap    sw                      0       0
[13:00] <dr_willis> !lvm
[13:00] <b3ef> http://www.wired.com/wiredenterprise/2012/09/pluto-switch/
[13:01] <dr_willis> lvm on a 60gb hd seems.. overkill
[13:01] <b3ef> dr_willis, agreed
[13:01] <Eagleman> What is the use for lvm then?
[13:01] <b3ef> Eagleman, it can work like Drive Extender on Windows
[13:01] <Eagleman> what you did is assign 60gb to / without lvm?
[13:01] <X3MBoy> I need to configure a ubuntu server to be a log server...
[13:01] <b3ef> With LVM you can take 2x 1TB drives and a make a 2TB storage on /storage or whatever
[13:01] <dr_willis> i dont use lvm at all. even on my 3tb drives
[13:01] <b3ef> me either
[13:02] <dr_willis> just dont need to merge my disks that way
[13:02] <Eagleman> and if i want to run raid 6 with 3gb disks?
[13:02] <b3ef> i was going to use Greyhole but I ended up keeping them all seperate
[13:02] <b3ef> dr_willis, exactly
[13:02] <b3ef> Eagleman, why RAID at all? It's not as good as it sounds
[13:02] <Eagleman> so what is good
[13:02] <dr_willis> 128gb ssd = / here,  got swap and video storage on a hdd
[13:03] <b3ef> Eagleman, everything has their own ideal place. In my personal scenario, I use rsync and write scripts to meet my needs.
[13:03] <Eagleman> its better than loosing all your stuff when 1 disks fails
[13:03] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  we need details of your setup and needs
[13:03]  * dr_willis makes backups
[13:03] <b3ef> Eagleman, yes, it is. But there may be better solutions.
[13:03] <Eagleman> I also make backups
[13:03] <b3ef> I make backups as well, although a bit differently
[13:03] <chk> Q
[13:03] <Eagleman> just some tar script
[13:03] <b3ef> I have 2 disks in the host, and I use rsync to create copies of my important files on both disks
[13:03] <dr_willis> redundant stack or external usb hds
[13:03] <Eagleman> external disk
[13:03] <dr_willis> ;)
[13:04] <Eagleman> b3ef that would be the same as raid 0
[13:04] <b3ef> Eagleman, except it's a copy of the entire disk
[13:04] <Eagleman> raid 1*
[13:04] <b3ef> I only replicate folders I want to
[13:04] <b3ef> So, in detail...
[13:04] <b3ef> / is my root, obviously, a 500GB disk
[13:05] <Eagleman> yes
[13:05] <b3ef> /files is my storage, a 640GB disk
[13:05] <b3ef> and /backups is a 1TB disk
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: got /tmp and /var on the platter based drive too :)
[13:05] <llaskin> hi i have a lot of "firefox <defunct>" processes listed in a ps listing...is there a way to get rid of these?
[13:05] <llaskin> I'm talking 100's of instances
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> llaskin: kill the parent process
[13:05] <b3ef> i replicate from /files to / and /backups depending on the file and how important it is
[13:05] <dr_willis> how  cute and tiny..
[13:05] <llaskin> how to figure out parent process?
[13:05] <llaskin> i tried sudo killall firefox
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> llaskin: what is the output of: ps -ef | grep -i fire | head -n 1
[13:06] <Eagleman> basicly i want to use plex
[13:06] <Eagleman> so i will have a lot of movies/series on my disks
[13:06] <dr_willis> 128gb / here on ssd for / and /home/willis   all else on a bigger hd
[13:06] <llaskin> user    302 23641  0 Sep09 ?        00:00:18 [firefox] <defunct>
[13:06] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  with just a 60gb hd?
[13:06] <Eagleman> no
[13:06] <Eagleman> i've got / for my 60gb ssd
[13:06] <Iron|2> how did you afford all those movies?
[13:07] <Eagleman> and /media/usbbackupdisk 500gb for backups
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> llaskin: kill -9 23641
[13:07] <Eagleman> and /media/hdd1 1tb for movies
[13:07] <Eagleman> Iron|2 downloading for free
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> llaskin: 3rd colomn is the parent ID, ill the parent and the children die off
[13:07] <dr_willis> i have 3 seperate 3tb usb3 hds for my videos.   i mount them to vids1, vids2 and vids3
[13:07] <dr_willis> wife, kids, and mine   seperated out
[13:08] <Eagleman> so lvm could be usefull when using plex?
[13:08] <Eagleman> if i got more than 3tb of movies and stuff
[13:08] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  easier to just sort the movies out into seperate hds
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> llaskin: ill == kill
[13:08] <Iron|2> can ubuntu support 3 monitors?
[13:08] <chk> ~/help join
[13:08] <dr_willis> Iron|2:  yes
[13:09] <Iron|2> I wonder what the workspace switcher looks like under 3 monitors
[13:09] <Eagleman> not sure how plex scans so i might even need lvm
[13:09] <MagnusBS> Okey, I cant find any way to debug my problem with internet speed. Here are my problem with some terminal cmd's that can help.. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2055811
[13:09] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  it definatly CANhandle different sources to scan
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: http://design.canonical.com/2011/12/improving-the-multi-monitor-experience-in-ubuntu/   sure, why not :)
[13:09] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  same as xbmc and boxee does
[13:09] <dr_willis> i use all 3
[13:10] <Eagleman> i am not familier with xmbc and boxee
[13:10] <dr_willis> plex is a varient of xbmc
[13:10] <dr_willis> there are simpiler dlna/upnp servers in the repos also
[13:10] <dr_willis> minidlna took me 3 min to setup ;)
[13:11] <Iron|2> that's crazy.
[13:11] <ActionParsnip> or use samba
[13:11] <ChoHag> Is there a sensible way (I have a build environment based around pbuilder & reprepro set up) to build kernel modules which will be used on a wide number of servers (which don't have a compiler)?
[13:11] <dr_willis> cellphone has upnp player.. so minidlna works well
[13:11] <zelluz> hello guys, I have a very, very weird issue. Picture of it here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/544003/Pb%20Linux%20desktop.png
[13:12] <zelluz> anyone got any hints, tips or tricks to solve it?
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> zelluz: are you using Mate?
[13:12] <dr_willis> my boxee box and xbmc machines can see the upnp servers also
[13:12] <Eagleman> It is able to scan multiple folders
[13:13] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: I havent heard about it, so I dont think so
[13:13] <gordonjcp> zelluz: I'm sorry, I have no idea to fix it, but it's a really good problem ;-)
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> zelluz: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc   please
[13:13] <dr_willis> Eagleman: plex/xbmc/boxee can share from hundreds of folders/drives/sources
[13:13] <Eagleman> But it will get unorganized when i've got 3.5tb ot series and only a 3tb of disk i will have to seperate my data and it will be hard ti fond
[13:13] <Eagleman> to find
[13:13] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: its fully updated 12.04 if thats the question
[13:13] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  plex sorts the shows.. thats its main feature
[13:14] <Eagleman> i know
[13:14] <cigan_>  mysql -u root -p: ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)
[13:14] <Eagleman> but mannualy searching thins on the disks
[13:14] <Eagleman> things
[13:14] <dr_willis> you got 3tb of a singlre show? what show may that be..
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> zelluz: hmm and can you pastebin the output of:   pe -ef | grep -i panel
[13:14] <Eagleman> no multiple
[13:14] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: it happened after I used nvidia-settings to activate second(external) screen
[13:14] <cigan_> getting that error but the server is running
[13:14] <Eagleman> its IF i dont have that right now
[13:14] <MagnusBS> Atheros AR9485 Wireless Adapter, only  getting 1mb/s out of 12mb/s. Anyone that have other suggestions?
[13:14] <dr_willis> you are worriwd about a non issue
[13:15] <Eagleman> maybe yes
[13:15] <dr_willis> i have dozens of series across diffenrent hds. ples sortds it all out
[13:15] <ActionParsnip> zelluz: can you please pastebin the output of the command I gave. Thanks
[13:15] <Eagleman> i like to think about the future
[13:16] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: it will take some minutes Im afraid, its a friends laptop, he will be over shortly with the machine!
[13:16] <dr_willis> future = i plug in a new usb hd.. and fill it up.. plex scans it.. wife never notices any differance
[13:16] <Shadow`> i added an IP to allow SSH from a foreign IP into iptables, it is listed when i do --list... but it times out when i connect to it from the allowed IP
[13:16] <Eagleman> maybe ur right
[13:17] <Eagleman> i just have to sort out how i will do the backups
[13:17] <Eagleman> 2 times the same file should be enough?
[13:17] <dr_willis> add a file server, plex sees the smaba shares.. scans.. and adds shows to the list...
[13:17] <Eagleman> like in data and movies
[13:17] <Iron|2> hey, are there any good C++ or C# or programming in general irc channels around?
[13:17] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: I even tried reset the xorg.conf file with the xorg.conf.bak file aswell, no luck!(This was yesterday). I would gladly search on google after the issue, but the issue is so perplex that Im out of words! :P
[13:18] <llaskin> Iron|2:  have you checked #c++ or #c?
[13:18] <Eagleman> I already have a 3tb harddisk but it is filled with around 1.5tb of data
[13:18] <Iron|2> why would I do that?
[13:18] <dr_willis> just 1? ;)
[13:18] <Eagleman> yes
[13:18] <Shadow`> nothing? :/
[13:18] <Eagleman> it was very hard to get when i bought it
[13:19] <Eagleman> and since i didnt needed more
[13:19] <dr_willis> if i get a new 3tb. o copy over stuff to it. replaceing the smaller hd.. then i keep the sm aller hd offline as a backup copy
[13:19] <dr_willis> so i have seberal 1tb hds about 80% full with specific shows
[13:19] <Eagleman> 3tb external?
[13:20] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  ive been upgrading to usb3   3tbs lately
[13:20] <dr_willis> out of usb3 ports now. ;(
[13:20] <Eagleman> i''ve also got 1 usb3 3tb
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: sure, you can get usb nas...
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> well, raid array via usb technically
[13:20] <dr_willis> i have several nas's that can do usb2 shareing over samba.
[13:21] <dr_willis> no raids ;)
[13:21] <Eagleman> aha
[13:21] <Eagleman> never heard of a usb nas
[13:21] <Eagleman> seems nice
[13:21] <ubuntu_> tomboyyy
[13:21] <dr_willis> got a 500gb  hd that can share by itself from battery to my tablets on the road
[13:22] <Shadow`> so noone has any clue why my iptables isnt working properly?
[13:22] <dr_willis> when working with usb you realize how slow usb2 can be.
[13:22] <Shadow`> yeah cause years ago many harddrives broke the usb 2 limits
[13:22] <dr_willis> 1tb usb  backing up to a faster hd.. can take some time
[13:23] <BluesKaj_> Hey all
[13:24] <hatman> Hello
[13:24] <hatman> My audio fails
[13:24] <Shadow`> as usual superb linux support! god why isnt it the year of linux already? /s
[13:25] <rigo> hi. i know that i always ask. sorry for that. but now i share my experiences: http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=140198
[13:25] <dr_willis> its allready the year of linux.. its so common people dont notice it
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> hatman: can you give the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh
[13:25] <hatman> I installed Xubuntu yesterday, while and after installing my sound worked, but today the sound card isn't recognised of ALSA I think
[13:25] <hatman> it is a laptop, thus a integrated Intel sound chipste
[13:25] <hatman> *chipset
[13:25] <hatman> ActionParsnip: sure
[13:25] <dr_willis> bbl
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> Shadow`: its always been the year of linux...you were just blinded by windows :)
[13:26] <Iron|2> still waiting on steam for linux
[13:27] <Shadow`> so much humor, some should be comedians
[13:27] <Sennep> Got 1ssd disk and 3hdd disks, but i can only use two of the hdd disks at once. Any reason for that, can't ubuntu run more than 3 disks?
[13:27] <gordonjcp> Shadow`: I'm waiting for the year of Windows on the desktop
[13:27] <gordonjcp> Shadow`: Windows 8 looks like it might be getting close
[13:27] <Kartagis> gordonjcp: that is unlikely to come
[13:27] <Shadow`> see, so much humor ;)
[13:28] <Calinou> how can I reduce screen brightness (actual backlight, NOT using nvidia x server settings) on xubuntu 12.04.1? there doesn't seem to be any menu. I tried to use xbacklight but it doesn't work, saying there is no backlight
[13:28] <Calinou> I use a laptop
[13:28] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: that command (pe -ef | grep -i  panel) did not work!
[13:28] <hatman> ActionParsnip: http://temporary.paste.to/MTEyNTc2NQ==
[13:28] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: what model laptop?
[13:28] <Eagleman> So to get rid of LVM i just have to reinstall my ubuntu machine?
[13:28] <Calinou> ActionParsnip, HP pavillon dv7
[13:28] <Calinou> from 2009
[13:29] <Sennep> !text
[13:29] <hatman> ActionParsnip: This makes no sense! My audio worked fine yesterday
[13:29] <ActionParsnip> hatman: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:ubuntu-audio-dev/ppa; sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; sudo apt-get install --reinstall linux-sound-base alsa-base alsa-utils; killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*     wait 10 seconds and reboot
[13:29] <Iron|2> I just eat grub, no need to press escape or shift
[13:30] <hatman> ActionParsnip: ack
[13:31] <chenmiao> hey, how to make libreoffice auto fill id column(primary key) from previous number after i delete two rows
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> Calinou: Fn + F8 not increase brightness?
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> hatman: what?
[13:31] <gordonjcp> Shadow`: did you have a support question?
[13:31] <hatman> I'm doing it
[13:31] <Calinou> well I'm not on that particular computer right now; my concern is about _saving_ the brightness
[13:31] <Shadow`> ye few times, few days already too
[13:31] <Calinou> when I used ubuntu 11.10, I had to reset brightness at every reboot. very annoying :(
[13:31] <Calinou> I'll try later though (I want to decrease brightness, not increase it)
[13:31] <Iron|2> chenmiao, I don't think this is the libreoffice help channel
[13:31] <ActionParsnip> hatman: why the ack?
[13:31] <Shadow`> but im currently thinking of burning down ubuntu and migrating this POS linux to debian at least
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: its in the repos so is supported here :)
[13:32] <hatman> ActionParsnip: lol dunno I thought I would say "ok"
[13:32] <Iron|2> oh okay, cool.
[13:32] <hatman> but anyhow, the installation (or whatever happened) is done, will reboot
[13:32] <hatman> BRB
[13:32] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: I reckon you meant ps instead of pe. Output of that is gnome-panel and its running as the user
[13:32] <Iron|2> BOO ROOT BOOK
[13:32] <Shadow`> im sick of stuff randomly breaking for no apparent reason, no change, no input or whatever freaking reason
[13:32] <ActionParsnip> zelluz: yes, sorry, typo
[13:32] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: its only one process aswell
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> zelluz: ah, that's freaky
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> !panelfix
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> !fixpanel
[13:33] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[13:33] <zelluz> :P
[13:33] <dr_willis> old factoids
[13:33] <Pici> !resetpanel
[13:33] <Pici> And may not work with new things.
[13:33] <dr_willis> yeo
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> zelluz: maybe:   gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/panel; killall gnome-panel
[13:34] <gordonjcp> Shadow`: switch distro if you like; all distros are exactly the same
[13:34] <gordonjcp> Shadow`: Linux is just Linux
[13:34] <Shadow`> no they are not
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Pici: worth a punt :)
[13:34] <ActionParsnip> Pici: thanks btw
[13:34] <Pici> ActionParsnip: anytime
[13:35] <ActionParsnip> Shadow`: did you try the different releases, like xubuntu, kubuntu etc?
[13:35] <Shadow`> ...
[13:35] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: Pici: tested the command
[13:35] <Shadow`> ye i constantly resetup production servers, just for fun
[13:35] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: Pici: no dice! issue is still the same
[13:35] <hatman> ActionParsnip: Didn't work!
[13:37] <gordonjcp> Shadow`: did you actually have a support question, or did you just come here to whine?
[13:37] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: Pici: If I just take the killall gnome-panel command. The duplicate stuff goes away. though, the panels are obviously gone :P
[13:37] <Shadow`> i added an IP to allow SSH from a foreign IP into iptables, it is listed when i do --list... but it times out when i connect to it from the allowed IP
[13:37] <tristantristan> hello
[13:37] <hatman> why this makes no sense, what makes my audio not work today, I believe I didn't change any sound settings yesterday except for some MIDI stuff like Timidity
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> hatman: zelluz they should rerun and make only one
[13:38] <econdudeawesome> howdy all. Any idea how to get openbox to use two screens (I'm building up from ubunutu minimal)
[13:38] <xevwork> Can someone give me a link to a .deb file that's not in any Ubuntu repositories?
[13:38] <xevwork> It doesn't matter what it is, really.
[13:38] <hatman> ActionParsnip: What?
[13:38] <econdudeawesome> xevwork: try dropbox.com?
[13:38] <ActionParsnip> hatman: the killing of pulseaudio then deleting the ~/.pulse* folders will give default settings. If you run:  alsamixer   are all levels cranked and unmuted?
[13:39] <xevwork> econdudeawesome: Perfect - thanks!
[13:39] <hatman> let me check that
[13:39] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: Pici: getting closer! If I try to start gnome-panel after killing the process as the user. I get the duplicate stuff. If I try it as root, its ok!
[13:40] <Shadow`> ok, so, nothing. i've used the exact same way to add ports to be allowed from specific IP's. however, on one of the servers... it stopped applying new iptables changes for no apparent reason
[13:40] <econdudeawesome>  Anyone know how to get openbox working with dual screens if building up from ubuntu minimal?
[13:40] <ActionParsnip> zelluz: well you will be using root's blank profile with default settings, so yes it will be ok
[13:41] <Shadow`> been going through manpages, google help and been asking here the last couple of days (not counting weekend) and no support/help anywhere, whatso-freaking-ever
[13:41] <hashpuppy> what's the ubuntu equivalence of this command:  chkconfig --list ntpd
[13:41] <ActionParsnip> Shadow`: try swapping it for ufw and you can use gufw as a gui.
[13:41] <fidel> any experience where apt-mirror logs to?
[13:41] <Shadow`> gui
[13:41] <Shadow`> really
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Shadow`: or you can use ufw as is, without GUI. It works both ways....
[13:42] <econdudeawesome> hashpuppy: maybe chkconfig > <filename> is what you're looking for?
[13:42] <fidel> somehow it looks like my apt-mirror cmd is just idling - at least if i check the disk usage - while i see on the other hand that it has created some folder struxtures in /var/spool/apt-mirror/...
[13:42] <ActionParsnip> Shadow`: and yes, really
[13:42] <gordonjcp> Shadow`: if you disable iptables entirely, can you connect?
[13:43] <hashpuppy> econdudeawesome: it doesn't look like it even has chkconfig
[13:43] <gordonjcp> Shadow`: break it down, see if you can identify where your connection is being blocked
[13:43] <econdudeawesome> hashpuppy: http://linuxcommand.org/man_pages/chkconfig8.html
[13:43] <hashpuppy> sudo: chkconfig: command not found
[13:43] <Pici> econdudeawesome: chkconfig does not exist on Ubuntu.
[13:43] <Shadow`> usually iptables would be in /etc/init.d/iptables, but not on ubuntu?
[13:44] <econdudeawesome> Pici, hashpuppy well there you go. My ubuntu knowledge is still growing ;-)
[13:44] <econdudeawesome> what alternatives are there to twinview?
[13:44] <ActionParsnip> Shadow`: if you use nmap to scan the server you can see what is open and not....
[13:45] <Shadow`> its open, its working from another IP adres which was added to iptables like 2 years ago
[13:45] <gordonjcp> Shadow`: see when you added a second IP address
[13:45] <gordonjcp> are you *sure* it's the right one?
[13:45] <hatman> ActionParsnip: How do I stop pulse and how do I delete its folder by command?
[13:45] <Shadow`> iptables even resolved it to the correct hostname
[13:45] <Pici> hashpuppy: it would be something like: initctl list | grep ntpd
[13:46] <karamel4e> Hello, any help with gddrescue?
[13:46] <meet> how do i change the position of the notifications of chat un 12.04?
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> hatman: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.pulse*    run it as one command
[13:46] <Shadow`> uwf disable
[13:46] <Shadow`> still no
[13:46] <jpds> Shadow`: Ubuntu uses 'ufw' (frontend to iptables) for iptables management.
[13:46] <hashpuppy> Pici: that just tells me what services are running, as opposed to what runlevels they are configured to run at on start
[13:47] <jpds> Shadow`: Otherwise, use tcpdump to see what's talking to what.
[13:47] <Shadow`> haha
[13:47] <Shadow`> its a public production webserver
[13:47] <hatman> ActionParsnip: What should I do next? Audio seems disabled
[13:47] <Eagleman> So to get rid of LVM i just have to reinstall my ubuntu machine?
[13:47] <Shadow`> thats one big f'ing list
[13:47] <Shadow`> 5243 packets captured
[13:47] <blankondinar> blankon
[13:47] <jpds> Shadow`: So? Use the filters to limit down the dump to the port you're having issues with.
[13:48] <hashpuppy> is sysv-rc-conf recommended?
[13:48] <Shadow`> ye i grep 22 and it sees my current connection from our old IP address
[13:48] <jpds> hashpuppy: cd /etc/init; grep runlevel *
[13:48] <jpds> hashpuppy: To see what starts on which runlevel.
[13:49] <hashpuppy> jpds: thanks!
[13:49] <meet> how do i change the position of the notifications of chat un 12.04?
[13:49] <shawdy> hola
[13:49] <karamel4e> Hello, any help with gddrescue?
[13:50] <hatman> karamel4e: what's your question?
[13:50] <ActionParsnip> hatman: pulseaudio will restart and make the file and folder again
[13:50] <hatman> maybe I can help
[13:50] <hatman> ActionParsnip: So system reboot?
[13:50] <hashpuppy> jpds: if /etc/init.d/something has # Default-Start: 2 3 4 5.  Will this go into effect on reboot?
[13:50] <econdudeawesome> Anyone have experience setting up xinerama?
[13:51] <fidel> !anyone
[13:51] <jpds> hashpuppy: Upstart runs things in /etc/init.d/ last.
[13:51] <fidel> econdudeawesome: try to describe your problem in detail - might help more then asking if anyone.... ;)
[13:51] <jpds> hashpuppy: As in, after all the stuff in /etc/init/
[13:51] <econdudeawesome> fidel: my problem is sufficiently detailed for where I am at.
[13:51] <hashpuppy> gotcha.  thanks :)
[13:51] <barlew> l
[13:51] <karamel4e> @hatman  Well, I am trying to copy a partition which is 40gb, gddrescue has been running for 5 days till now and copied only 200mb. Is this normal?
[13:51] <meet> how do i change the position of desktop notifications  in 12.04?
[13:51] <jpds> meet: You can't.
[13:52] <fidel> econdudeawesome: well then wait for the answer ;)
[13:52] <econdudeawesome> fidel: I would like help figuring out how to set up multiple monitors on a fresh ubuntu minimal install with openbox
[13:52] <meet> jpds earlier it was at the bottom in 11.10 after i upgraded it went up and i cant even look at the messages properly
[13:52] <meet> jpds, any other soln?
[13:53] <jpds> meet: As far as I know, they could never be moved.
[13:53] <Shadow`> oh god, its 9.10
[13:53] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  what video card?
[13:53] <fidel> econdudeawesome: and i was just trying to point out that showing a problem in detailed works better then just asking for some general help in topic A
[13:53] <hatman> karamel4e: Lol. Seriously? From what? A computer from 1995? Or are you trying to copy through a parallel port? So... to where are you copying?
[13:53] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: how do I check?
[13:53] <jpds> Shadow`: Nice.
[13:53] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  lspci to see card info
[13:53] <meet> jpds: i wonder why the moved it up
[13:53] <hatman> karamel4e: Are you duplicating it to same drive?
[13:53] <Eagleman> So to get rid of LVM i just have to reinstall my ubuntu machine?
[13:53] <Shadow`> ye unfortunally its a production server, so i need to find a moment to do a release upgrade >.>
[13:54] <jpds> Eagleman: Why would you want to get rid of LVM?
 the cpu of the laptop is core 2 duo with 2.1gh
[13:54] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  or just dont use it on newer hds you install and keep it on /
[13:54] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: http://pastebin.com/TNttw90T is the output
[13:54] <wN> Eagleman: if you want to move off of LVM on your root drive, i would suggest a reinstallation. anything else will be a huge pain in the ass.
[13:54] <Eagleman> well i want to reinstall anyway
[13:55] <Eagleman> no need for it
[13:55] <Eagleman> dr_willis convinced me
[13:55] <hatman> karamel4e: Even if you have some hightech NASA computer over there, it is still weird why you let your computer on for 5 days
[13:55] <hatman> karamel4e: I mean for 200mb
[13:55] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: I removed .config .gnome2 .gconf .cache .local from user home folder and now its only two duplicates! (It was originally duplicated 5 times)
[13:56] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: is it safe to remove .nvidia-settings-rc from user home folder?
[13:56] <hatman> karamel4e: tip, if you wan't to mention my name, type the first couple 'o letters of my name, then press TAB and you will automatically ping me
[13:57] <hatman> But I have to go, I recommend using some other method
[13:57] <karamel4e> hatman: thanks, about that
[13:57] <hatman> bye
[13:57] <hatman> BRB system reboot
[13:57] <karamel4e> thank you again, bye
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> zelluz: sure
[13:58] <karamel4e> Any help with gddresque, please?
[13:58] <ActionParsnip> zelluz: you can delete .nvidia.... no problem
[13:58] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: I believe it's intel then? I didnt realize they were a chip card maker, as opposed to nvivia/ati
[13:59] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  intel is the #3 video chip company  would be my guess.
[14:00] <OriginJM> Hey guys, I'm in need of some help, anyone around?
[14:00] <dr_willis> from a # shipped they  are up there with the other 2 also id think
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> OriginJM: just ask dude
[14:00] <hatman> Bad news ActionParsnip, still not working
[14:00] <karamel4e> Any help with gddresque, please?
[14:01] <hatman> karamel4e, just once again
[14:01] <hatman> karamel4e, to where are you copying
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> karamel4e: in what way...try some details....
[14:01] <OriginJM> Brand new to Ubuntu, I installed the 32bit OS without knowing, is there anyway I can switch to the 64bit easily or do I have to uninstall everything and do it again?
[14:01] <dr_willis> karamel4e: ddrescue /dev/sda1  sda1.image logfile    ;)  if i remember
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> OriginJM: you will need to reinstall
[14:02] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: fair enough, wish I knew more about the market ;-). What do I do from here, having an intel card?
[14:02] <karamel4e> hatman:  something bad is happening to my hdd. I am trying to rescue some files.
[14:02] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  the normal gnome  monitors/display tools should let you configure things
[14:02] <hatman> OriginJM: copy personal files to safe partition, leave all partitions intact and reinstall ubuntu to same partitions (format first)
[14:02] <hatman> OriginJM: that is what I've learnt
[14:02] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: I'm installing up from ubuntu minimal, trying to avoid using Gnome.
[14:02] <OriginJM> Gotcha, do you think upgrading to 64bit is worth the time?
[14:02] <karamel4e> hatman: copying from one hdd to another, both of them are connected vie usb
[14:03] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  no idea then. i dont configure xorg.conf by hand anymore
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> OriginJM: depends what you use your OS for and how much RAM you have etc
[14:03] <OriginJM> I got an ASUS that has an i7 and 10GB of RAM
[14:03] <OriginJM> so i imagine yes
[14:03] <rigo> can you suggest me?
[14:03] <hatman> karamel
[14:03] <dr_willis> theres to many handy tools to limit yourself to non using gnome stuff ;)
[14:03] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: possible to configure via the gnome tools then be rid of them?
[14:04] <rigo> ...a pci-e dvb-S card?
[14:04] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  you need a proper xorg.conf i imagine
[14:04] <econdudeawesome> fair enough
[14:04] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  why so gnome-phobic
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> OriginJM: 32bit + PAE can access 64Gb RAM
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> OriginJM: but each process will only see 3.2Gb RAM
[14:05] <hatman> karamel4e: I'm PM'ing you
[14:05] <OriginJM> so should I just roll with 32bit for now?
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> OriginJM: so if yoyu only chat and web browse you will be ok with 32bit otherwise go 64bit
[14:05] <karamel4e> hatman: me too
[14:05] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: well, mainly want to squeeze as much juice out of this laptop as I can. Do a ton of development work, don't know Gnome3 or Unity, when I need GUI openbox has worked fine. Noticed before my recent wipe that Gnome utilities were running even when the session wasn't called (nor was gdm insalled)
[14:06] <OriginJM> Well, I've never used Ubuntu but I'm also a software engineer, though it sounds like I'm clueless. I think I'll just do 64bit then, I appreciate your help buddy. Thank you.
[14:06] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, but with 32 bit, would most of his 10g of RAM be unavailable?
[14:06] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  if the desktop is not running.. its not using power
[14:07] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  some services may be.. but theres text mode if you want.
[14:07] <econdudeawesome> but when I'd log into openbox Gnome would still rear its head. So I'm seeing if I can make Gnome-less work for me
[14:07] <dr_willis> what gnome stuff exactly was running...
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: all, max ram for 32bit PAE is 64Gb
[14:08] <dr_willis> and i doubt if any battery drain was much compared to say the led screen..
[14:09] <sasi> hi all
[14:09] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: my worry isn't the battery drain (battery sucks anyway, just leave it plugged in). I had over 3/4 of my 4 GB of RAM used in mainly keeping Gnome services running
[14:09] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: dont remember which services exactly
[14:09] <dr_willis> unity/gnome also has cpu throtteling features that could save battery
[14:09] <sasi> can any1 plz help, how to enable remote desktop service in ubuntu using command line
[14:09] <dr_willis> i think you are worrying about nothing.
[14:09] <sasi> ?
[14:09] <OriginJM> Also, another thing, this a bit more of a problem. Right now I'm not at home and my wireless connection is excellent, but at home it is constantly spiking and disconnecting. So a lot of connections work great except my home connection, is there a reason to this?
[14:10] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: fair enough. But at present, I have two things left to successfully setup--dual monitors and wireless card. Then I'll have the system right as I like it
[14:10] <dr_willis> sasi:   share the current desktop? or would a hidden desktop work?   vncserver is for the latter hidden desktop
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> OriginJM: check channels in use in the area, too many SSIDs on the same channel will cause issues
[14:10] <greg8347>  /dns assassin
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> OriginJM: if you see lots of channel 11s (common) try switching to channel 1
[14:11] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, i've been under the impression that 32 bit system could only address about 5Gb of RAM
[14:11] <sasi> dr_willis: share the current desktop
[14:11] <dr_willis> econdudeawesome:  you could boot a live ubuntu cd. configure things, check the xorg.conf and copy it over..... ;)
[14:11] <Toph2> 4 rather
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> Toph2: without PAE the max is 3.2Gb
[14:11] <OriginJM> How do I check channels? And thanks again.
[14:11] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: hah! :D Fair enough. The config for the file doesn't look too bad, but if I can't get it to work I might just do that
[14:12] <dr_willis> sasi:  not sure thsts easially done.  is someone at the other pc wanting to watch? ;)
[14:12] <Toph2> ActionParsnip,,, ok,, I'll have to check what PAE is
[14:12] <sasi> dr_willis: no.. just to be know...
[14:13] <dr_willis> bbl
[14:13] <Iron|2> hey, I'm not good enough with ubuntu yet. Can I install a new ubuntu to my flash drive for now, and then at a later date, delete the home from one, move the home from my hdd to my flash drive, and use that for both ubuntus? Or should I set this up when i install to flash drive?
[14:13] <sasi> dr_willis: i know how to enable it through GUI.. want to know if there is any option to enable it through CLI
[14:15] <Iron|2> does ubuntu come with an ssh client pre installed?
[14:15] <econdudeawesome> Iron|2: yes
[14:16] <Iron|2> how do i access it?
[14:16] <econdudeawesome> Iron|2: open a terminal, type ssh <server>
[14:16] <eneskuray> hi
[14:16]  * Iron|2 goes to the train station
[14:16] <Iron|2> hello
[14:16] <econdudeawesome> Iron|2: perhaps try ctrl+alt+t
[14:16] <eneskuray> eeei updated my kernel to 3.5.3
[14:17] <econdudeawesome> Iron|2: or press the Win key and type terminal
[14:17] <eneskuray> who can
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: yes, openssh-client
[14:17] <eneskuray> help me
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> eneskuray: what is the issue?
[14:18] <eneskuray> i can connect wifi network
[14:18] <Iron|2> i pinged a server, ping got a little excited, pinged it uh... lots of time
[14:18] <Iron|2> how do i stop it
[14:18] <eneskuray> i cant see any wifi
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> eneskuray: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: CTRL+C
[14:18] <eneskuray> there isnt wlan0 device
[14:18] <econdudeawesome> Iron|2: Ctrl+c
[14:18] <Iron|2> thanks
[14:18] <Iron|2> at least i know the ping is good
[14:19] <econdudeawesome> haha
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: if you use:  ping -c 4 host    it will ping 4 times like windows, and stop
[14:19] <layke> Is there anything I can easily do to show taskbar in Unity?
[14:19] <iateadonut> hi - new to ubuntu; on mandriva/fluxbox for desktop and adminster a few debian servers.
[14:19] <layke> For task switching at the bottom
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> layke: windows key.
[14:19] <Iron|2> good to know actionparsnip
[14:19] <iateadonut> i'm working to dual/triple boot several linux distro's
[14:19] <Iron|2> I really should have some sort of stickynote app to keep track of these commands
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: I like to add an alias to make it default :)
[14:19] <econdudeawesome> Iron|2: I've done the same. I had a script that, to check connectivity, pinged www.google.com. I wondered the day after why my script hadn't finished. Pinged many many times
[14:19] <iateadonut> using the same home directory of course.
[14:19] <ActionParsnip> eneskuray: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[14:19] <Iron|2> iatedonut, is this your first time with linux?
[14:19] <Guest86076> ActionParsnip, I find that I like to see the running tasks always open. If that makes sense. So I can quickly see whats running.
[14:19] <iateadonut> and the same /var/www partition, and var/lib/mysql partition
[14:19] <belugs> Hello guys... How the best way to recover undelete files / format files?
[14:20] <eneskuray> ActionParsnip there isnt wlan0 device
[14:20] <iateadonut> the default window manager on LTS is gnome?
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> Guest86076: if you enable the scale plugin, you can activate it and see all the windows for running apps
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> iateadonut: the WM is compiz
[14:20] <iateadonut> i kind of like it and am thinking of trading fluxbox for it.
[14:20] <eneskuray> ActionParsnip:
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> belugs: use your backups
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> eneskuray: can you run:  cat /etc/lsb-release     what is output please?
[14:21] <iateadonut> but wondering how i can keep my old debian and mandriva loading to fluxbox and have a choice of what to load up in ubuntu if i'm using the same home partition for all three.
[14:21] <belugs> ActionParsnip: I don't have backup... I read about foremost, but I don't know if it's the best way
[14:21] <iateadonut> ah yes, compiz.
[14:21] <iateadonut> what fun.
[14:21] <hatman> ActionParsnip: My sound still doesn't work, still not recognised. Help plz?
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> belugs: why is there no backup?
[14:21] <iateadonut> it looks great and is pretty fast.
[14:21] <eneskuray> DISTRIB_ID=Ubuntu DISTRIB_RELEASE=12.04 DISTRIB_CODENAME=precise DISTRIB_DESCRIPTION="Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS"
[14:21] <ActionParsnip> hatman: my sound troubleshooting ability is low, maybe others can advise
[14:21] <lyscer> I am trying to copy a mysql database directory from a drive I mounted to the current machines /var/lib/mysql directory but it isn't show up when I do "Show databases" in mysql… how do I get it to show up?
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> eneskuray: cool
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic
[14:22] <ActionParsnip> eneskuray: if you are using kernel 3.5.3 then you are using an unofficial kernel we cannot support here
[14:22] <belugs> ActionParsnip: because it's a recently files
[14:22] <iateadonut> lycer, what is the userid of your mysql user? what is the owner of the drive you mounted?
[14:22] <eneskuray> can you come channel alfa20
[14:23] <lyscer> I am running everything as root
[14:23] <eneskuray> #Alfa20
[14:23] <Guest86076> Cheers ActionParsnip Will attempt that.
[14:23] <lyscer> iateadonut, let me try chowning to mysql
[14:23] <ActionParsnip> belugs: i see
[14:23] <eneskuray> http://webchat.freenode.net/
[14:23] <eneskuray> #alfa20
[14:24] <hatman> ActionParsnip: Thanks
[14:24] <eneskuray> #alfa20
[14:24] <eneskuray> #alfa20
[14:24] <eneskuray> #alfa20
[14:24] <eneskuray> #alfa20
[14:24] <FloodBot1> eneskuray: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:24] <ActionParsnip> belugs: you will need a partittion mounted writable to spit the data to and then run the command on the unmounted partition, it will restore a lot of data as well as the file/s you want
[14:24] <Iron|2> and my final question of the day: how do I uninstall (remove) ubuntu server and then install lubuntu minimal in one command?
[14:24] <iateadonut> lyscer, hold on.
[14:24] <iateadonut> let me get you a few commands.
[14:25] <dmartin> hello all, to track down a bug I'm looking for a way to download a version of ubuntu oneiric 11.04 (server preferably) but I cannot find my way on the ubuntu website, can anyone help me?
[14:25] <k1l_> Iron|2: just install the lubuntu-desktop meta package?
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: if you have server install then just install lubuntu-minimal and it will install what you need
[14:25] <belugs> ActionParsnip: which command? foremost?
[14:25] <Iron|2> but i wish to remove the server components as well
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> belugs: yes, i suggest you use the ubuntu live CD to do it in
[14:25] <iateadonut> changing from 74 to 77 (userid)
[14:25] <iateadonut> find / -user 74 -exec chown 77 {} \;
[14:25] <ActionParsnip> Iron|2: just uninstall the services you don't want
[14:26] <iateadonut> that'd be system wide, because of the / after find
[14:26] <Iron|2> ok, so do it separately?
[14:26] <belugs> ActionParsnip: all right.. thank ActionParsnip ...
[14:26] <Iron|2> alright, thanks for the info, cya.
[14:26] <iateadonut> so you might want to restrict to /var/lib/mysql
[14:26] <econdudeawesome> dmartin: ftp://ftp.utexas.edu/pub/ubuntu-iso/CDs/
[14:26] <lyscer> iateadonut, what does that command do?
[14:26] <dmartin> thank econdudeawesome :)
[14:26] <iateadonut> finds all files with the user id of 74 and changes them to 77
[14:27] <iateadonut> you'll have to do whatever you do with your pertinent user id's
[14:27] <iateadonut> and also, you might change it to find /var/lib/mysql
[14:27] <iateadonut> instead of find /
[14:27] <belugs> ActionParsnip: Why do you suggest liveCD ?, I read that I need just it "sudo foremost -v -T -t doc -i /dev/sda6 -o /media/disk/Recover"
[14:27] <layke_> Sorry ActionParsnip, what was the name of that plugin?
[14:28] <lyscer> iateadonut, it doesn't look like it did anything
[14:28] <layke_> (Can't check history, just overwrote my /home directory)
[14:28] <layke_> So xchat has cleared what you last said :)
[14:28] <iateadonut> oh, guess i'm wrong. sorry
[14:28] <lyscer> iateadonut, thanks anyways
[14:28] <lyscer> good effort ;)
[14:28] <iateadonut> what is the first line that  ls -n /var/www/mysql gives you?
[14:29] <iateadonut> belugs, usually foremost works on a dd image
[14:29] <ActionParsnip> belugs: because the partition you are working on needs to be unmounted
[14:29] <iateadonut> does it work directly on a partition?
[14:29] <iateadonut> puppy linux is a good live cd to have handy for stuff like that.
[14:30] <iateadonut> lyscer, give me the output of "id mysql"
[14:30] <lyscer> iateadonut, uid=106(mysql) gid=113(mysql) groups=113(mysql)
[14:30] <iateadonut> and the first line that  "ls -n /var/www/mysql" gives you
[14:30] <belugs> ActionParsnip: Ok, Now I understood...  thanks a lot
[14:31] <lyscer> iatadonut, total 28692
[14:31] <lyscer> iateadonut, total 28692
[14:31] <iateadonut> i mean the first file
[14:31] <belugs> iateadonut: thanks for information
[14:31] <lyscer> iateadonut, -rw-r--r-- 1   0   0        0 Sep 10 14:10 debian-5.5.flag
[14:32] <mits> aladilas: hi
[14:32] <iateadonut> does foremost work on a dd image or directly on a partition? - sorry - it also works directly on an unmounted partition -  i was wrong.
[14:32] <lyscer> iateadonut, the next one has a user list of 106 113
[14:33] <mits> aarcane_: hi
[14:33] <hatman> does ANYONE here know how to set up audio here in Xubuntu?
[14:33] <lyscer> not sure if it matters but I have a symbolic link pointing to my new data files..
[14:33] <iateadonut> how about the directory that matches the name of the database you are trying to show with "show databases"
[14:33] <belugs> iateadonut: is it a question ? about foremost.. or affirmation?
[14:33] <iateadonut> affirmation
[14:34] <mits> hi how to enable remote desktop in linux
[14:34] <mits> ?
[14:34] <lyscer> iateadonut, lrwxrwxrwx 1 106 113       30 Sep 10 14:18 db1 -> /mnt/var/lib/mysql/db1
[14:34] <ActionParsnip> iateadonut: i believe so. If you use dd_rescue you can use foremost on the image i believe
[14:34] <centrelink> mits, same as windows
[14:35] <iateadonut> hmmm... not sure about symbolic links.
[14:35] <mits> centrelink:i need the command for that.
[14:35] <iateadonut> how about "ls -n /mnt/var/lib/mysql/db1" ?
[14:35] <lyscer> iateadonut, I am copying it over to see if it makes a difference, then I will restart mysql and try again
[14:36] <mits> centrelink: you gone?
[14:37] <iateadonut> lyscer, can you try that "ls -n /mnt/var/lib/mysql/db1" - i'm really curious now
[14:38] <hatman> again, does anyone have a knowledge on how to get ubuntu set my soundcard as output device?
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> mits: what are you connecting to achieve? There may be a more graceful solution
[14:39] <lyscer> iateadonut, it didn't go through to those files. they have a 102 103
[14:39] <mits> ActionParsnip: i'm a system engineer in a company
[14:40] <MonkeyDust> mits  and what do you want to do?
[14:40] <hylian> say guys, if i wanted to use firefox quickly while I was in tty0, (control alt f1), how would I do that without going back to tty7? i know there is a way to direct firefox to a specific display, is this a duable  thing?
[14:40] <mits> ActionParsnip: i need to install 1 software in one linux machine. now the user went home
[14:40] <lyscer> iateadonut, looks like copying them into the /var/lib/mysql shows them when I do "Show databases" so it was the symlink screwing me
[14:40] <lyscer> iateadonut, thanks for the help/troubleshooting
[14:41] <iateadonut> good luck
[14:41] <mits> ActionParsnip: so i'm trying to enable the remote desktop through CLI, as i can access the remote machine using putty
[14:42] <ActionParsnip> mits: if you install openssh-server on the system you can SSH in and use apt-get to install the packages you want...
[14:42] <mits> MonkeyDust: just want to know the command to enable the remote desktop
[14:43] <MonkeyDust> mits  what you can do, but maybe there's a more elegant way: start's the user's pc from a live usb stick, download and install the .deb for openssh-server, then you can login using ssh
[14:43] <mits> ActionParsnip: that i know... i just want to view the desktop so that i can do it through gui
[14:44] <mits> ActionParsnip: i'm not that familiar with linux commands
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> mits: if its not enabled now, you will need to physically attend the system
[14:44] <mits> MonkeyDust: i can ssh the machine.. but i need to view the desktop.
[14:44] <hylian> can you run a x program like firefox via tty0? I want quick in and out access, without going back to tty7...??
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> mits: sudo apt-get install packagename
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> hylian: ssh -X username@server
[14:45] <mits> ActionParsnip: ok.. so there is no command to enable remote desktop? :(
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> hylian: use that to connect, then you can run X apps and it will attach to the client system (assuming you have a running X)
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> mits: not without knowing where the VNC stuff is
[14:46] <hylian> ActionParsnip: i don't get it, I'm not running a server. I just want to launch firefox in control alt f1, which i thought was tty0?
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> !vnc | mits
[14:46] <mits> ActionParsnip: i googled and found out one command ... "gconftool-2"
[14:46] <ActionParsnip> mits: Newer releases don't use gconftool-2 now
[14:46] <mits> ActionParsnip: bt its not working for me...
[14:46] <mits> ActionParsnip: ok...
[14:47] <mits> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot...
[14:47] <ActionParsnip> hylian: if you connect with the -X option, you can run gui apps and it will act like citrix does
[14:48] <mits> ubottu: i cant go the machine physically now to enable the remote desktop...
[14:48] <ActionParsnip> mits: you will need to attend the ssytem. I would put openssh-server on all systems so you can install apps and such remotely
[14:48] <mits> ubottu: ok thanks bye
[14:48] <mits> ActionParsnip: bye.. thanks for the help
[14:50] <hylian> ActionParsnip: ok, i think i get it. first off i am not using tty0. I am using "virtual terminal 1", so that was my fault. so i want to ssh tunnel into my own machine, directing it to x. but what goes in username@server? my username @ my machine name?
[14:51] <meisth0th> when will gimp 2.8 be available on ubuntu?
[14:51] <cfhowlett> meisth0th: prob not until 12.10
[14:51] <meisth0th> thanks
[14:52] <p1l0t> if running tar from the cli just seems frozen (no action just blinking cursor) is that usually a bad .tgz or something else? Tried -t and -x same nothing happens. I can ctrl-c out of it. Is there an error log for tar? Or is it in syslog maybe?
[14:52] <orated> Hello! Even after installing lubuntu-desktop package on a Ubuntu 12.04 installation, I don't see Lubuntu option during login. Is there any other package required to be installed other than lubuntu-desktop? Secondly, after completing modprobe operations on kernel module, is there any thing to do so that I don't have to repeat that step on every system boot?
[14:53] <delinquentme> My 10.04 ubuntu just corrected a command I issued to it ... and in return it told me to run " service mysql start "   .. when that is a removed command O_o;;;;;;;; ?     apparently this "service" command has been replaced with " upstart " ??
[14:53] <p1l0t> Ubuntu server 12.04 LTS
[14:53] <hatman> come on people seriously can you please help me how to get my soundcard settings back?
[14:54] <cfhowlett> orated: you won't get a lubuntu option, you will have the option to boot an LXDE session.  Ubuntu is still your primary OS
[14:54] <selfowner> hi all!
[14:54] <selfowner> i am new here and to linux (ubuntu) as well
[14:54] <cfhowlett> greetings
[14:55] <orated> cfhowlett: Yes, I don't even see LXDE. I can only see Ubuntu, Ubunut2d, Openbox and GNOME/Openbox
[14:55] <p1l0t> I'm trying to extract fpdf17.tgz I used to have it installed but I reverted to server because the Unity got to be too much for this old machine. Worked fine before so I doubt its the file but can't seem to extract it from the CLI using tar
[14:55] <p1l0t> from fpdf.org
[14:56] <hylian> orated: I am assuming you are running 12.04? did you click on the little "ball" next to the place where you enter your password on the ldm login screen?
[14:56] <cfhowlett> orated: I can only assume that the lubuntu-desktop didn't install properly...
[14:56] <selfowner> so far have tried ubuntu just on virtualbox, but now i want to install it on my laptop, dualboot with win7, so ubuntu + win7 + a shared data partition. anyone have done that?
[14:56] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: why not install Xubuntu or Lubuntu then? You don't HAVE to use Unity/Gnome...
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: i suggest you install unp. It makes extracting stuff easy as you can use one command for all archives :)
[14:57] <orated> hylian: Yes, Ubuntu 12.04. Yes, I did click on that small ball.. only having gone through option I said Ubuntu, Ubuntu2D, Openbox,GNOME/Openbox in my previous reply
[14:57]  * ActionParsnip thinks unp should be default installed
[14:58] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: This computer only really needs to be a server anyway just trying to keep it efficent, been authorized by the company for a new build that will have a desktop. I'll check out unp thanks
[14:58] <orated> chalcedony: Umm.. sudo apt-get install --reinstall lubuntu-desktop installs that single package ... am I missing something?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: makes sense, yeah unp is awesmoe
[14:58] <hatman> come on... anyone... please some help? there is seriously no solution I can find... I don't want to reinstall xubuntu because that won't help anyway... can anyone please help?
[14:58] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: also install openssh-server for remote tweaking and file access :)
[14:58] <hylian> orated: if you type sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop in your terminal, what does it say? (control alt t usually brings up the terminal)
[14:59] <Bucko0909> hi, im trying to install wubi, got through the installation process rebooted laptop and tried to boot ubuntu but all i get is a something about ntfs prefix not set for a split second then a black screen, sometimes i get the ubuntu loading screen followed by a little jingle then stuck on a black screen, can anyone shed some light? im new to linux
[14:59] <hylian> ActionParsnip: i don't think ssh is the way to go for me. I don't want to bring up the whole desktop, i simply want to run one x app while still in virtual terminal 1.
[14:59] <orated> hylian: lubuntu-desktop is already the newest version.
[14:59] <hylian> orated: have you rebooted at all?
[15:00] <orated> Yes, three times before asking here
[15:00] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: Oh yeah already have openssh, just added denyhost too because of brute force attempts already. Going to make it RSA soon but other issues to deal with first.
[15:00] <ahhthai> a
[15:00] <hylian> orated: how did you install lubuntu-desktop, did you log out of unity or some other desktop environment, and then install it via the virtual terminal? (control alt-f1?)
[15:00] <cfhowlett> Bucko0909: wubi is for TESTING ubuntu - not a long-term installation solution.  So sayeth wubi developers.  Consider virtualbox or dual booting is the best advice I can offer.
[15:01] <orated> hylian: Is there a command line approach to check if they are installed or not? Not by checking state using aptitude show or something?
[15:01] <Bucko0909> i am testing lol , im a dj by proffesion and looking at diffrent laptop setups at the min, intrested in trying mixxx on ubuntu as windows is just greedy on resources
[15:02] <orated> hylian: I installed lubuntu-desktop this way - Logged out of Unity in tty7. Moved to tty1 using Ctrl+Alt+F1.. <sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop> then <sudo apt-get shutdown now -r>
[15:02] <WHAT_DOWN> so this is a silly question, but i have a file called "-". how do i read its contents? cat - or nano - don't work.
[15:02] <gordonjcp> WHAT_DOWN: cat -- -
[15:02] <hylian> orated: there might be. I would personally start by apt-get removing lubuntu-desktop, and then apt-get install lxde. if you can get that way if it is a package problem of some sort, you would know it is in the core of lxde. There is probably a better way to do this, but this is how I would do it.
[15:02] <cfhowlett> !ubuntustudio|Bucko909
[15:03] <CQ> hello, if I get an enclosure like this one http://www.icydock.com/goods.php?id=123 can I attach it to a standard SATA port on the MB (with eSATA connectors at the expansion slot to bring it outside) and then see teh 4 disks inside as separate devices, or how does JBOD work?
[15:03] <Bucko0909> cfhowlett: thanks will check it out :)
[15:03] <hylian> can I run a x app from virtual terminal 1? (or how can i?) I think the way i aked my question earlier was not clear.
[15:04] <orated>  Secondly, after completing modprobe operations on kernel module, is there any thing to do so that I don't have to repeat that step on every system boot?
[15:04] <jacta> Oooeh - i fucked up some things - it wont auto mount usb drives and such anymore - and manually its also b0rked - does anyone have a clue what to try?
[15:04] <cfhowlett> !language|jacta:
[15:04] <dr_willis> hylian:  and have it appear on the x server?
[15:05] <hylian> dr_willis: yeah, I am trying NOT to go back to control alt f7. I am trying to check something quick, and get back to terminal. switching virtual terminals is rather slow...
[15:05] <karamel4e> Hello, any help with rescuing data from a probably failing hdd?
[15:06] <delinquentme> Ok ... for " upstart " ... $ upstart should run it  ... if I've got it installed right?
[15:06] <hylian> dr_willis: i am also trying to just run the one app, and not switch back to the whole gui, because I would like to use the whole screen..
[15:07] <jacta> cfhowlett, thanks for all that helpfull help, great
[15:07] <hylian> jacta: what happens when you manually mount it?
[15:07] <econdudeawesome> dr_willis: Figured it out. Use xrandr commands at openbox autostart to get everything configured properly
[15:07] <jacta> hylian, nothing at all :/
[15:07] <dr_willis> hylian:  somthing like the following may do it 'xhost + localhost' 'export DISPlAY=localhost:0' then 'theappname'   may work
[15:07] <hylian> jacta: so what you are saying is you cant mount it?
[15:08] <hylian> dr_willis: thanks, I will try that!
[15:08] <jacta> hylian, yep, or atleast not automaticly - tried manually too without luck - also tried all usb ports
[15:08] <jacta> and sdcard slot too
[15:09] <hylian> oops, pressed the wrong button
[15:09] <ska> Is there a channel for ufw chatter?
[15:10] <hylian> dr willis, can you send that to me again, i accidentally closed my irssi sesssion..??
[15:10] <karamel4e> Hello, any help with rescuing data from a probably failing hdd?
[15:10] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: unp found all the files :) but said failed to detect file type I used 'unp -u fpdf17.tgz /tmp' Does this allow you to specify a folder or do I need to mv it there first? Or use proper syntax?
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: waaaay easier than messing with tar switches etc
[15:10] <hylian> dr_willis: can you send me that again, i accidentally closed my irssi client...??
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: not sure, check the man page, I always just extract to the location it is in
[15:11] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: The man page is only 37 lines but I will just mv and unzip its simple and it works I'm happy enough
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: yeah its one of the first things I install :)
[15:12] <ska> Do I need to use "sudo ufw" if working as root?
[15:13] <ActionParsnip> ska: if you are root, you don't need sudo
[15:13] <hylian> dr_willis: sorry I goofed up, and thanks. I'm going to see if i can find that command again on the web. i went to launch leafpad, and killed my irssi via terminator :(
[15:13] <orated> hylian: "somthing like the following may do it 'xhost + localhost' 'export DISPlAY=localhost:0' then 'theappname'   may work" - dr_willis
[15:13] <hylian> orated: thank you!
[15:13] <delinquentme> So... How does one find out about the grand changes being made in ubuntu ... say like this switch from "services" to " upstart" for managing things like databases ...?   THe issue comes into play when all of the existing documentation is wrong.  Even the manpage for myqsl on ubuntu doesnt work.
[15:14] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: Is there a place to vote for default packages or is it up to Linus?
[15:14] <ssta> p1l0t: Linus doesn't have anything to do with it
[15:14] <hash_> Im trying to install LMMS its telling me i need wine 1.2, if i try to install it under synaptic it selects wine 1.2 and wine 1.2 gecko and it wants to uninstall wine and wine 1.3 will i have any problem removing them
[15:14] <karamel4e> Hello, any help with rescuing data from a probably failing hdd?
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: you can vote for things at brainstorm.ubuntu.com but I don't think it does much. Linux just maintains the kernel and other packages, I don't think he inputs to the defaut package choice in ubuntu
[15:15] <orated> karamel4e: ddrescue?
[15:15] <mediamgl> hi
[15:16] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: ssta: I guess its up to Cannocial?
[15:16] <karamel4e> orated: I tried with ddrescue, it is copying for 5 days and now I have not more than 1gb, the partition is around 40gb.
[15:16] <unless> Could someone help me figure why Thunderbird insists in telling my gmail account password is wrong?
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: indeed
[15:16] <karamel4e> orated: I mean it is really slow...
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> unless: does email flow ok?
[15:17] <hylian> jacta: sorry, I had a bit of typing to do, have you gotten any more help on the usb thing?
[15:17] <ssta> p1l0t: yeah...there's a release team, who I guess have a say.  I dunno how much is "policy" and how much is "politics" though
[15:17] <jacta> hylian, not at all, also sd card wont work :o
[15:17] <p1l0t> ssta: yes
[15:17] <ssta> p1l0t: I'd *like* to think that all decisions were made for technical reasons, but I doubt that very much :)
[15:17] <unless> ActionParsnip, what do you mean?
[15:18] <ActionParsnip> unless: does email come down ok? can you send email ok?
[15:18] <unless> ActionParsnip, when I try to check my email it says I got the wrong password.
[15:18] <p1l0t> ssta: in a perfect world
[15:18] <hylian> jacta: what desktop environment do you use? Unity? Gnome? XFCE or LXDE? (Unity is the one that automatically comes with ubnutu 12.04)
[15:18] <jacta> hylian, xubuntu though :)
[15:18] <unless> ActionParsnip, actually its a imap account and it is not able to connect to server, both.
[15:19] <jacta> think I played in pysdm somehow, but its all b0rked :\
[15:19] <ActionParsnip> p1l0t: if you want to install only what you want, install minimal ubuntu and you can build up, so the package choices will be irrelevant :)
[15:19] <ssta> p1l0t: well, the world is faqr from perfect...I think Linux in general (and Ubuntu in particular) come closer to it than most in the release management aspects
[15:20] <ska> Does "ufw allow 80/tcp" write anything to a configuration file?
[15:20] <ssta> p1l0t: I tend to install default and then change it to how I want it (unity and friends go...xrdp comes in...if I could find a way to remove dnsmasq cleanly that would go too...)
[15:20] <hylian> jacta: in other words, you are using xfce. me too. xubuntu is just a bunch of packages that make xfce prettier, and gives it some nice functionality. some very nice extras.
[15:20] <karamel4e> Hello, any help with rescuing data from a probably failing hdd?
[15:20] <jacta> hylian, yep - correct :)
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> karamel4e: try dd_rescure
[15:21] <p1l0t> ActionParsnip: next time for sure
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> karamel4e: your backups will be far easier and more consistant data
[15:21] <hylian> jacta: well first off i can assure you it's not lxde. lxde works great. (i just realized I said xfce before.) my brain doesnt work all that well. I am gonna do some diggin on this.
[15:22] <p1l0t> ssta: I have been trying to figure out how to opensource life in general..
[15:22] <ssta> p1l0t: if you work it out, let me know
[15:22] <jacta> hylian, its xfce im on
[15:22] <unless> ActionParsnip, man, I didn't have my imap at google set. Thank you anyways.
[15:23] <p1l0t> ssta: WILCO
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> unless: ahhh, glad you got the gold :)
[15:23] <karamel4e> ActionParsnip: my backups are already gone, as the other hdd failed previously :9
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> karamel4e: oh boy
[15:23] <ActionParsnip> karamel4e: try foremost on the unmounted partition, you will need a large partition mounted writable to spit the data to
[15:23] <ssta> karamel4e: ouch.  I've been there long time ago...I feel your pain.  Get as much as you can off as soon as you can and hope you don't lose too much
[15:23] <utops> Gallium 0.4 on AMD RV730 - This don't recognize my monitor i need manualy add desired rez via xrandr It feels sloppy. Who got CRT monitor on DVI and can paste me xorg.conf?
[15:24] <hylian> jacta: I see.
[15:24] <karamel4e> ActionParsnip: I wil use foremost, but first I wanted to make an image of the drive with ddrescue and I am still not able to do it
[15:25] <hylian> jacta: what format is the usb stick?
[15:25] <jacta> hylian, but just tried again, noting popups - nothing mounts
[15:25] <karamel4e> ssta: not the first time
[15:25] <jacta> hylian, tried fat, fat32, ntfs
[15:25] <jacta> its all worked nice earlier :p
[15:25] <ska> Where does ufw store its user-created rules?
[15:26] <hylian> jacta: fat32 should have been a sure thing. this is not a usb issue. can you boot to a ubuntu live cd, and then see if you have usb capability? then we would know if it's an after installation issue, or an ubuntu issue.
[15:26] <fredddiiiiii> Does anyone know a repository for Ubuntu with Empathy themes?
[15:27] <jacta> hylian, it have been worked for long time, then I did something in some "cant-remember-apps" :\
[15:27] <ActionParsnip> karamel4e: you can use ddrescue to make an image then use foremost on that (if memory serves)
[15:27] <fredddiiiiii> Does Web Upd8 have an IRC channel?
[15:27] <karamel4e> ActionParsnip: I tried with ddrescue, it is copying for 5 days and now I have not more than 1gb, the partition is around 40gb.
[15:28] <codemonkey> any one know of a port of zork for linux
[15:28] <codemonkey> ?
[15:28] <codemonkey> looking for a repo source
[15:29] <gordonjcp> codemonkey: if you've got the Z-machine files, try frotz
[15:29] <karamel4e> ActionParsnip: is 'ddrescure' you are reffering to different from dd_rescue. I installed gddrescue and using this one
[15:29] <gordonjcp> codemonkey: incidentally, stick "play zork on linux" into google; the first two hits are relevant
[15:30] <zerts> hi I have ubuntu 11.10 gnome 2.32.1, should I update to gnome 3 ?
[15:30] <mike_sun> zerts: this is your call
[15:30] <Calinou> using xubuntu 12.04.1 -- why does my screen set itself to 50hz (using proprietary nvidia driver), while my laptop screen suppots 60hz? forcing it in nvidia x server settings does not work
[15:30] <Calinou> zerts, there is no gnome 2 in 11.10
[15:31] <codemonkey> gordonjcp: cant hit google from here... text only, and navigating via lynx is a pain...
[15:31] <zerts> Calinou yup I have this
[15:31] <Calinou> no
[15:31] <Calinou> you are not on 11.10 then; 11.04 or prior
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> karamel4e: yeah meant dd_rescue
[15:32] <fredddiiiiii> Does anyone know a repository for Ubuntu with Empathy themes?
[15:32] <hylian> jacta: what do you get when you use this command: sudo lshw -businfo?
[15:32] <zerts> I update from 11.04 to 11.10
[15:33] <karamel4e> ActionParsnip: so something is not right as I would have to wait for months to copy it
[15:33] <jacta> hylian, http://pastebin.com/E3pr7f1B
[15:33] <zerts> gnome-version its 2.32.1
[15:33] <Calinou> then you have gnome 3.
[15:33] <Calinou> or your upgrade didn't work somehow
[15:35] <hylian> jacta: it sees a flash memory card, is that what you are trying to mount?
[15:35] <jacta> hylian, really, nothing is trying to be mounted atm :\
[15:36] <MeXTuX> Does anybody know if there is package to install C++/Connector from MySQL? I need it but I prefer to install it from a deb package. The one provided by http://dev.mysql.com/downloads/connector/cpp/ is a tar file. Tnx in advance
[15:37] <hylian> jacta: but is it in the sd slot?
[15:37] <jacta> no :/
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> MeXTuX: is there a PPA for it?
[15:38] <hylian> jacta: can you plug one of the devices in and re-run sudo lshw -businfo?
[15:38] <karamel4e> Hello, any help with rescuing data from a probably failing hdd?
[15:38] <zerts> Calinou  http://postimage.org/image/4ik2tjot1/
[15:39] <auronandace> karamel4e: can't you mount it and copy what you need?
[15:39] <jacta> hylian, http://pastebin.com/sJar4GUV
[15:39] <kubanc> any idea why movies in youtube are playing extremly fast?
[15:39] <zerts> Its gnome 3 faster that gnome 2.6 ?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> zerts: depends on config
[15:40] <karamel4e> auronandace: unfortunately, no. windows can not handle it, ubuntu is mounting it for 10-15 min, after that I can see the folders but I can not copy
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> kubanc: can you give the output of:  lsb_release -a; uname -a; dpkg -l | egrep 'flash|gnash|swf|spark'      Thanks. Please use a pastebin like http://pastie.org
[15:41] <zerts> ActionParsnip what version of genome do you have ?
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> zerts: gnome, not genome
[15:41] <zerts> gnome sorry
[15:41] <Monterrazo> #ubuntu-br
[15:41] <Monterrazo> Quit
[15:42] <Monterrazo> Leaving
[15:42] <duckgod> Is anyone else experiencing frequent computer freeze ups on ubunutu 12.10 beta?
[15:42] <ActionParsnip> zerts: I use Precise so I have GTK 3.4.2
[15:42] <jacta> hylian, have to go home, brb - 20 mins :\
[15:42] <hylian> jacta: i think i stumbled onto something. the website at the end of this message has a post by a person names Joaquin that I think might solve your issue. Here is the website: http://tips4linux.com/usb-devices-not-mounting-in-lucid-heres-a-fix/
[15:42] <jacta> ill look- thanks <3
[15:42] <hylian> bye jacta
[15:43] <zerts> humm
[15:43] <neooen> Hi guys! I use German version of ubuntu. Does anyone know how to turn off the auto-correction? I can't type double s. Ubuntu corrects it always to ß.
[15:43] <hylian> zerts: I use the human genome myself. ;)
[15:44] <zerts> lol hylian
[15:44] <hylian> neooen: in what application?
[15:45] <zerts> so someone use gnome 2.6 or gnome 3
[15:45] <aLeSD> hi all
[15:45] <hylian> zerts: i was using gnome 3 for a while.
[15:45] <dell> Is anyone using Scilab for calculating?
[15:45] <hylian> aLeSD: hello
[15:45] <OerHeks> zerts gnome2 is dead.
[15:45] <aLeSD> is it possible to put the log of /var/log/kern.log in the background in unity desktop ?
[15:45] <kubanc> ActionParsnip, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1196870/
[15:46] <dell> Today, I use ubuntu 1204
[15:46] <zerts> OerHeks but its nice and fast
[15:46] <h00k> zerts: gnome2 is no longer supported by the gnome team
[15:46] <hylian> zerts: gnome 3 has a classical mode that works almost exactly like gnome 2 did. that
[15:46] <aLeSD> I use ubuntu 5.04
[15:46] <dell> I find this tool,Scilab
[15:46] <xangua> zerts: gnome1 was also nice and fast :P
[15:46] <duckgod> Every 30 minutes or so my computer freezes up. I can move the mouse pointer but nothing else happens. Any ideas what could be breaking that would cause this?
[15:46] <hylian> aLeSD: 5.04? that's from 2005!
[15:46] <aLeSD> dell, use python + numpy + scipy
[15:46] <aLeSD> hylian, just kidding
[15:46] <duckgod> I am testing ubuntu 12.10 beta 1
[15:47] <neooen> It is doing it all over the system, Browser, File Manager, just everywhere
[15:47] <zerts> Ho well xangua
[15:47] <OerHeks> duckgod, support QQ 12.10 in #ubuntu+1
[15:47] <aLeSD> you guys rules but may I put a console in the background of everything with tail -f /var/log/kern.log ?
[15:47] <duckgod> Yeah everywhere.  No matter applications.
[15:48] <zerts> In this case I will update to gnome 3
[15:48] <duckgod> Ok I will try and report to QQ. Just hoping to get a hunch for them to start with.
[15:49] <karamel4e> Hello, any help with rescuing data from a probably failing hdd?
[15:49] <zerts> thx for the help
[15:49] <neooen> @hylian just testing don't know how to send a message to you
[15:50] <Chardot> Hi o/ Does anyone here run Ubuntu on a MacBook Pro?
[15:50] <auronandace> !mac | Chardot
[15:51] <hylian> neooen: ubuntu does not have a system wide autocorrect. it took me a while to dig that up, that's why i was gone.
[15:51] <Chardot> auronandace: Thanks! :D
[15:52] <hylian> neooen: for instance, if you use a simple program like Leafpad, there will be no autocorrect.
[15:52] <hylian> hylian: could it be in your keyboard settings?
[15:52] <hylian> LOL, i just sent myself a massage... i yiy iy
[15:53] <DanielPorter>  /msg NickServ identify DspMnp31
[15:53] <hylian> neooen: could it be perhaps your keyboard settings?
[15:53] <test123> DanielPorter: !
[15:53] <dane> привет
[15:53] <hylian> DanielPorter: /msg nickserv identify username password, don't put the password here!
[15:53] <dane> нужна помощь
[15:53] <bazhang> !ru | dane
[15:54] <BluesKaj> DanielPorter, do that command in the server textbox
[15:54] <jacklk> DanielPorter: Please type "/msg NickServ SETPASS <new password>" once logged in.
[15:54] <neooen> hylian: OK but than maybe not system wide, but definitely in applications as above. The some here with Xchat. See ss ss ss ss ss no double s possible
[15:55] <DanielPorter> I see what I did working on it LOL
[15:56] <aLeSD> how could I remove mysql service from start on boot ?
[15:56] <hylian> neooen: i see double ss's in that text. I am using the english us keyboard layout. I think i see what's happening here now though, I am going to do some quick digging, I will be right back. :)
[15:56] <jacklk> I just jizzed in my pants...
[15:57] <BluesKaj> jacklk, are we supposed to care :)
[15:57] <jacklk> Eww.
[15:57] <jacklk> This is uncomfterble.
[15:58] <hylian> neooen: are you trying to make a §?
[15:58] <neooen> hylian: Yeh, I see it to and it is funny because wwnn I typing it I can see only the German ss, also called in German "scharfes s"
[15:59] <karamel4e> gddrescue had copied 1gb from a 40g partition for 5 days. Possible reason or solution for probably failing hdd to rescue the data?
[15:59] <GunClive> hi. why does my gnome 3 look like gnome 2? i installed ubuntu 12.04, then installed gnome-core, then selected gnome in lightdm. thanks.
[15:59] <calico> Am I safe resizing my partitions, deleting the Win7 partition, etc?
[15:59] <dane_> ghb
[15:59] <dane_> привет
[16:00] <dane_> нудна помощь
[16:00] <dr_willis> karamel4e:  took me about a month to recover 1tb befor.
[16:00] <dane_> есть кто
[16:00] <bazhang> !ru | dane_
[16:00] <neooen> hylian: sorry for the mistakes. I just suffer from keyboard dyslexia lol
[16:00] <karamel4e> dr_willis: so it is normal?
[16:00] <dr_willis> karamel4e:  all sort of tricks/gimmicks to try to get the hd going.. none ive ever seen actually work
[16:01] <hylian> neooen: hmm, in xchat it could be the auto replace function. the problem here is, you may get this on other apps. but I would try for now to turn off auto replace in xchat, and see if that gets you anywhere, if it does, it's not your keyboard layout. if it does not, that's the direction i would be leaning to.
[16:01] <zeitgeist> hi chan
[16:01] <dr_willis> karamel4e:  its trying over and over.. it has settings to try just a few times. and move on.. check its docs.
[16:01] <hylian> neooen: mee too! :)
[16:01] <karamel4e> dr_willis: this hdd still seems to work, it is mounts, that's why I am trying
[16:01] <hylian> dr_willis: thanks for helping me earlier.
[16:01] <kubanc> ActionParsnip, the problems is virtualBox
[16:02] <dr_willis> hylian:  i aim to please... even if i cant remember the problem. ;)
[16:02] <karamel4e> dr_willis: I checked the docs, but no approximate data for this is provided so I was wandering if I should leave it copying
[16:02] <karamel4e> *wondering
[16:02] <dr_willis> karamel4e:  you did use a logfile?
[16:02] <karamel4e> dr_willis: yes
[16:03] <hylian> neooen: you can find the auto replace option in settings, i believe. I personally don't use xchat, but I will fire it up and look around too,
[16:03] <dr_willis> karamel4e:  then you can stop and start it again later, with differewnt options and so forth
[16:03] <calico> karamel4e: riskovano li e da ---- Am I safe resizing my partitions, deleting the Win7 partition, etc?
[16:03] <alpi_bel>  /msg NickServ identify 256100
[16:03]  * calico slaps alpi_bel 
[16:04] <karamel4e> dr_willis:  ddrescue is reporting about 1000 errors up until now, I couldn't find what kind of errors are these
[16:04] <dr_willis> alpi_bel:  oops....
[16:04] <neooen> hylian: OK I'll try it, and let you know if something has changed
[16:04] <karamel4e> dr_willis: I did stopped it and resumed
[16:04] <karamel4e> calico: kakvo?
[16:04] <dr_willis> karamel4e:  file verify errors i imagine
[16:04] <ZzBuntu> which channel is used to discuss beta testing?
[16:04] <dr_willis> karamel4e:  do a fast ddrewcue perhaps. then see if you recover what you need..
[16:05] <calico> karamel4e: da si iztriq partitiona s windowsa i da si resizna diska
[16:05] <bazhang> ZzBuntu, #ubuntu+1
[16:05] <ZzBuntu> bazhang: thanks
[16:06] <karamel4e> dr_willis: I will check this 'fast' rescue and try
[16:07] <karamel4e> dr_willis: thanks
[16:07]  * hylian needs a break, goodbye all!
[16:08] <electric_mouse> i got a problem....  using setterm to set the terminal color does not work for at all.  If I do 'setterm -term xterm-color -fore blue | od' I just get '0000000' back
[16:08] <neooen> hylian: there is no aouto-correction in XChat, just spell chack. I tuned it off but no effect.
[16:09] <karamel4e> dr_willis: in the gddrescue docs nowhere I can find 'fast' option
[16:10] <GunClive> hi. why does my gnome 3 look like gnome 2? i installed ubuntu 12.04, then installed gnome-core, then selected gnome in lightdm. thanks.
[16:11] <trism> GunClive: the package you were probably looking for is gnome-shell
[16:11] <zeitgeist> hey, does anyone have any idea wy wget wouldn't work (no output at all) in the %pre section of a kickstart file ?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> zeitgeist: do you use a proxy for web access?
[16:11] <trism> GunClive: oh nm, gnome-shell is a dep of it
[16:12] <zeitgeist> ActionParnsip : no, and I wget files on my local network
[16:12] <GunClive> trism, thanks anyway
[16:12] <trism> GunClive: then you probably don't have graphics support for it, and it is falling back to gnome-panel
[16:13] <GunClive> trism, ok. thanks
[16:13] <hatman> does anyone know how I can fix my sound in Xubuntu?
[16:14] <hatman> it is been recognised, but isnt set as hardware output
[16:14] <hatman> it is unavailable
[16:14] <hatman> how do I fix it?
[16:14] <GunClive> in gnome3 how can i save a session?
[16:14] <dr_willis> karamel4e:  use the options to make it faster.... ignore errors. retry ince. and  so on. the homepage has examples
[16:15] <hatman> lol karamel are you still there? how is the copying?
[16:15] <hatman> did it work?
[16:16] <dr_willis> http://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html
[16:17] <karamel4e> hatman: I am here. I have stopped it for now.
[16:17] <karamel4e> hatman: I am trying to figure out what would be the best to be done.
[16:18] <hatman> karamel4e: ok
[16:18] <keepbro> Hi everyone
[16:18] <andrealto98> which ubutnu version do you have?
[16:18] <hatman> karamel4e: what brand is the hdd?
[16:18] <karamel4e> dr_willis: looking at it right now
[16:18] <keepbro> Can someone help a new user with a noob problem?
[16:18] <joever> hi guys. i'm running 12.04, fonts are blury and fuzzy. can someone please help me?
[16:18] <hatman> keepbro: hi, go aahead
[16:18] <karamel4e> hatman: give me a sec
[16:18] <keepbro> My mousepointer has become the amazing disappearing and reappearing mouse pointer
[16:19] <numarul7> I want to inform you all that CoreI7 Nehalem is not compatible with Linux/Ubuntu
[16:19] <hatman> keepbro: that sounds fun, doesn't it?
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> numarul7  there's a page where you can report it
[16:19] <keepbro> its all the rage here
[16:19] <hatman> keepbro: try restarting the system
[16:19] <keepbro> rage being the operative word
[16:19] <keepbro> well sometimes its there - then sometimes its not
[16:19] <hatman> keepbro: but without saving the session
[16:19] <MonkeyDust> !hardware > numarul7
[16:20] <ztane> i have fuse-encrypted home directory; is there anything in special slowing down stat system calls, like not caching dir names, that has changed recently?
[16:20] <keepbro> how do you mean?
[16:20] <dr_willis> karamel4e:   last drive i tried to rescue started working. ( the ddrescue load freed it up?)  so i backed it up... then it died again a week later ;)
[16:20] <Calinou> joever, try adjusting font smoothing settings
[16:20] <hatman> keepbro: just restart
[16:21] <kingnebex> can any 1 help me....my laptop keeps on freezing  specialy wen im on line
[16:21] <hatman> keepbro: when you go to Log off, it says if you want to safe session if I'm right?
[16:21] <hatman> keepbro: you have to turn that off
[16:21] <joever> Calinou, i've tried that
[16:21] <keepbro> no
[16:22] <keepbro> it just says cancel shutdown logout
[16:22] <keepbro> no save session
[16:22] <hatman> keepbro: go to your settings under energy, and see if you can find the option that says "automatically save session on logout" (yeah sorry my ubuntu is dutch, don't know the exact translation)
[16:23] <hatman> keepbro: afterwards just restart the system
[16:23] <karamel4e> hatman: seagate momentus
[16:23] <hatman> karamel4e: I told you it was a seagate!
[16:23] <hatman> I also had a seagate which had problems
[16:23] <keepbro> ok ill try that - thank you
[16:24] <hatman> np
[16:24] <karamel4e> hatman: probably, the other one that failed was also seagate
[16:24] <andrealto98> can you see what i'm writing?
[16:24] <Calinou> yes
[16:25] <andrealto98> oh, thanks you
[16:25] <hatman> Seagates are very well known for their... super-bad hddś
[16:25] <hatman> *hdd's
[16:25] <hatman> I believe
[16:25] <andrealto98> i'm italian, you?
[16:25] <numarul7> MonkeyDust i read it and see that is only bug report for app
[16:25] <karamel4e> hatman: I know that 'now' the hard way..
[16:25] <bazhang> !ot | andrealto98
[16:25] <andrealto98> ok, sorry
[16:26]  * BluesKaj knocks on wood ..my WD160G is 7 yrs old and still working fine , even this seagate is ok for a 4 yr old drive
[16:26] <hatman> ok
[16:27] <hatman> !afk
[16:27] <BluesKaj> all running kubuntu
[16:27] <karamel4e> hatman: But I really don't know if it's failing as first I checked it with the Ashampoo program in Windows and it said that the hdd is ok..
[16:27] <numarul7> people that have Samsung hardrive made in 2010 must know that their hdd will crash soon
[16:27] <numarul7> :)
[16:27] <numarul7> they have defects
[16:28] <hatman> Nah, all my hdd 's are WD. I have had one iomega and one Seagate that both got ruined
[16:28] <hatman> My old WD's are still doing fine
[16:28] <hatman> I'm doing some heavy math now, I'll come back later
[16:28] <numarul7> Samsung hdd division got bought by WD in 2010
[16:28] <numarul7> :))
[16:28] <numarul7> cause hardware failure all the time
[16:28] <bazhang> numarul7, `lets get back on topic
[16:29] <karamel4e> hatman: I really don't know what to buy next, but that's another topic
[16:29] <karamel4e> hatman: good luck with math :)
[16:29] <becom33> how do I know to which usb the dongle is connected to ?
[16:29] <hatman> thx
[16:29] <dr_willis> this is why this channel is strong on  having backups..
[16:30] <becom33> in /dev there are couple of usbs
[16:30] <dr_willis> bbl
[16:30] <numarul7> i want to report that DELL N5010 (Aluminium edition) Nehalem I7 is not supported by Ubuntu :) give 95`C  message and kill the PC , Windows 7 works perfect
[16:30] <Myrtti> numarul7: reporting it here will do no difference
[16:30] <neooen> hylian: I changed the system language to english. Everything is fine now. But I would like to know how to turn off auto replacing anyway, Didn't find such function anywhere in ubuntu settings.
[16:31] <Myrtti> numarul7: also even if you find a suitable place for reporting your issues, that's not detailed enough.
[16:32] <karamel4e> drecute: you are right about backups, but I ran out of hdds :)
[16:32] <becom33> anyone ?
[16:32] <Praxi> man, get a weekend off, and all of a sudden my chrome just quits working
[16:32] <dell> aLeSD:python? I have no idea about this soft
[16:33] <dell> numarul7:try redhat
[16:33] <OerHeks> becom33, plug it out, doe lsusb, and plug it in, lsusb again
[16:33] <dell> go to sleep
[16:33] <dell> bye
[16:34] <neooen> Hi! Does enybody know how to turn off/on the auto-correction, resp. auto replacing function in ubuntu?
[16:34] <becom33> OerHeks, Bus 002 Device 009: ID 12d1:1436 Huawei Technologies Co., Ltd
[16:34] <becom33> so how I do know its USB0 or USB1 Or USB2 ?
[16:37] <OerHeks> becom33, what do you want, there is no such thing as usb0
[16:37] <becom33> OerHeks, Im trying to use gammu to send sms trough the dongal but its asking to which port its connnted to
[16:37] <becom33> connected to *
[16:38] <daemongpl> becom33: lsusb
[16:40] <zeitgeist> hey, does anyone know why wget wouldn't work (i.e. zero output) when used through a script in the %pre section of a kickstart file ?
[16:40] <OerHeks> becom33, hwinfo, see >> http://z0manifest.blogspot.nl/2009/03/wammu-and-finding-usb-ports.html
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> zeitgeist: do you use a proxy for web access (missed your reply earlier).
[16:42] <afloater> I installed 12.04. When I connect to a dhcp server, it changes my nameserver in resolv.conf to localhost (127.0.0.1). Anyone know why?
[16:42] <ActionParsnip> zeitgeist: try: wget downloadfile -O/dev/null |& sed -u -n 's/[0-9]*%/&/p'
[16:42] <zeitgeist> ActionParsnip : No, and I wget files on my LAN. Actually, even when I use wget with no arguments, I don't even have the help message (thans for answering)
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> zeitgeist: source: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/programming-9/sed-processing-wget-progress-bar-841905/
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> zeitgeist: I try
[16:46] <eleazar> hey guys, i have a really stupid question, how do i get this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/sabnzbdplus to show up in ubuntu software center?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> !info sabnzbdplus
[16:47] <nateman254> can someone help me?
[16:47] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: sudo apt-get install sabnzbdplus
[16:48] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: make sure you have the multiverse repo enabled
[16:48] <eleazar> that's actually how i got it to instal, but it keeps installing 0.6.15, but that link shows 0.7.3 being available :\
[16:49] <zeitgeist> ActionParsnip: I'm setting up a new ks file with your code, but I don't think it's just an output problem : if I wget a file then list the content of my working dir, the file is not there
[16:49] <nateman254> i need to get linux on a windows 98 computer, but it won't read the disk when i set it to start up from it first...
[16:50] <eleazar> ActionParsnip, is there something i need to enable to download the latest version? (i have multiverse enabled in preferences for ubuntu software center)
[16:50] <bazhang> eleazar, thats from 12.10
[16:50] <bazhang> eleazar, dont mix version repos
[16:51] <bazhang> nateman254, what make and model of computer exactly
[16:51] <NEone> Hi. While most windows can be resized by picking the corner of the window with the mose and drag it, the "system settings" window cannot be dragged/resized. Is it just me, or can anybody confirm this behaviour?
[16:51] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: I may have a ppa
[16:51] <nateman254> hp pavillion
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:jcfp/ppa; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sabnzbdplus
[16:52] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: source: https://launchpad.net/~jcfp/+archive/ppa
[16:53] <eleazar> ActionParsnip, woot! thanks! :)
[16:54] <FunnyLookinHat> So - let's say I added the xorg-edgers PPA and installed a bunch of updates... is there a way to reverse that process without a clean install?
[16:54] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas    lets you search the PPAs
[16:54] <nateman254> it's an hp pavillion
[16:54] <bazhang> FunnyLookinHat, ppa-purge
[16:54] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | FunnyLookinHat
[16:54] <FunnyLookinHat> bazhang, Great thanks
[16:55] <eleazar> ActionParsnip, wow perfect, thanks again. i was just about to ask how you found that :D
[16:55] <eleazar> i think this is the fastest I've found help on IRC in about 10 years lol
[16:56] <wilee-nilee> NEone, some windows have a fixed size
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: that page lets you search for all packages :)
[16:56] <zeitgeist> ActionParsnip: tested, still no wget ouput
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: duckduckgo has a a bang for it to:  !ppa    makes life easy
[16:56] <nateman254> but what i'm trying to do is get the disk ready for it and then install it on there so i can use it... but for some reason, when i try to get it to read it, it stays on a black screen and doesn't load.
[16:56] <ActionParsnip> nateman254: what video chip do you use?
[16:57] <nateman254> idk... it's not my computer, it's my grandmothers...
[16:57] <ActionParsnip> nateman254: try the boot option:  nomodeset
[16:58] <eleazar> ActionParsnip, duckduckgo? not sure what you mean
[16:58] <nateman254> how do i get there? i have to move the screen back and forth from both computers
[16:58] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: its an internet search engine
[16:59] <eleazar> oh nice, i'll have to check that out
[16:59] <eleazar> is ubuntu 12.10 the next version coming out? and that's what this version of sabnzbd was technically compiled for?
[16:59] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: look at the version number and think ;)
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: think about what year it is :)
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> !info sabnzbd quantal
[17:00] <eleazar> ohh, it's year.month?
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> !info sabnzbdplus quantal
[17:00] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: exactly ;D
[17:00] <eleazar> i had no idea :x I'm running ubuntu for the first time in about 4years
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: as logical as it gets
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> !nomodeset | nateman254
[17:01] <eleazar> yes, that's great, knowing at a glance when it was released
[17:01] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: and when it is EOL
[17:01] <eleazar> ah yeah that too
[17:02] <eleazar> so now that i added that ppa, does that mean it's searchable in ubuntu software center?
[17:02] <eleazar> (only the packages for that ppa obviously)
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: yes, all package apps will search the PPA as well as the official repos
[17:03] <eleazar> perfect
[17:03] <eleazar> thanks again!
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: np
[17:04] <someprimetime> what's the best mail delivery agent: Dovecot or Courier?
[17:04] <someprimetime> or is there one that's installed by default usually?
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> someprimetime: there is no single best
[17:04] <b3ef> is a 5400rpm hdd too slow to stream movies from?
[17:04] <ikonia> no
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> b3ef: shouldn't be an issue
[17:05] <b3ef> ok, cool
[17:05] <b3ef> thanks
[17:05] <b3ef> wanted to double check before moving storage around
[17:06] <eleazar> ActionParsnip, I'm back with one more question :x i added this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~rgibert/+archive/media but when i sudo apt-get install sickbeard, it says it's not found. am i using the wrong name? (i used this command to install the ppa: sudo add-apt-repository ppa::rgibert/media; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install sickbeard
[17:06] <eleazar> )
[17:07] <eleazar> i think i might see the problem
[17:07] <ChogyDan> gedit sucks now.  Any recommendations for a text / code editor?  Something not tied to the terminal
[17:07] <raido> Just an FYI. I was having problems getting update-manager and APT to see the new releases here at the office. We use and apt-cacher proxy here and it turns out, for some reason not yet known, apt-cacher will prevent an install from seeing new releases. Easy fix to disable the proxy on the client... do the upgrade and then reenable the proxy.
[17:07] <eleazar> ActionParsnip, nevermind, it was an extra : in the command
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: leafpad :)
[17:09] <ChogyDan> ActionParsnip: thanks, Ill give it a go
[17:09] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: some text editor from Mac got portd to Ubuntu if you wanna try that
[17:10] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/08/textmate2-goes-open-source-could-come-to-linux
[17:10] <ChogyDan> ActionParsnip: cool
[17:10] <the[reason]> hello how can i learn installed tcl tk version
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> the[reason]: dpkg -l | grep tcl
[17:11] <the[reason]> and tk framework?
[17:11] <ActionParsnip> the[reason]: just grep for different things
[17:11] <the[reason]> oh i see
[17:11] <the[reason]> thnx
[17:11] <ChogyDan> ActionParsnip: are you sure you didn't mis-read the headline?  it says "could" come to linux
[17:12] <the[reason]> ActionParsnip, does tk tcl come with default
[17:12] <the[reason]> in ubuntu
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> the[reason]: not sure to be honet
[17:12] <the[reason]> ok thnx
[17:12] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: "Mac text editor .Text Mate. is going open-source"
[17:12] <zeitgeist> Anyone knows about using wget through the %pre section of a kickstart file ?
[17:13] <minas> I connected my TV to my laptop. the display is mirrored from my laptop to the tv. however, the resolution on tv that is displayed is 1280x720, but its native resolution is 1366x768 (as the laptop). there's no option for 1366x768 for the TV resolution. what can I do? (I'm using the ati proprietary driver - 12.04)
[17:13] <ChogyDan> ActionParsnip: ok ok, I was just asking for real recommendations, nm
[17:13] <smw> zeitgeist, kickstart is redhat family
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/15-ubuntu-text-editors-grab-your-favorite/
[17:15] <zeitgeist> zeitgeist: Does't Ubuntu's implementation have differences ?
[17:15] <zeitgeist> smw: I mean :smw
[17:16] <smw> zeitgeist, ubuntu uses the debian installer which uses "preseed" files
[17:17] <frafra> Hi!
[17:17] <zeitgeist> smw, what about https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/automatic-install.html ?
[17:18] <armando> what?
[17:18] <afloater>  I installed 12.04. When I connect to a dhcp server, it changes my nameserver in resolv.conf to localhost (127.0.0.1). Anyone know why?
[17:19] <frafra> currently i have win7 but i wish to have ubuntu also. I have a clean/empty usb stick. on the homepage, am I supposed to download the iso file "ubuntu-12.04.1-desktop-amd64.so" to my usb stick. and then in boot meny choose usb stick then follow instruction ? is that the way to go ?
[17:19] <smw> zeitgeist, I recommend https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/amd64/appendix-preseed.html
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> afloater: try:  echo "nameserver 8.8.8.8" | sudo tee -a /etc/resolvconf/resolv.conf.d/tail > /dev/null
[17:19] <smw> zeitgeist, I have no idea why it recommends kickstart :-\
[17:20] <karamel4e> ddrescue is copying files with 30B/s. Any possible reason?
[17:20] <f0reign3r> frafra I'd recommend using Unetbootin to setup your usb stick
[17:20] <ChogyDan> ActionParsnip: fwiw, I think Im going with sublime 2.  Not free software, but I know someone who uses it
[17:20] <apg> Hello, is it allowed here to chat about less formal topic?
[17:21] <DJones> !ot | apg
[17:21] <ikonia> apg: no, it's ubuntu support discussion
[17:21] <auronandace> apg: no, this is just support
[17:21] <bazhang> apg, in #ubuntu-offtopic or #ubuntu-discuss
[17:21] <apg> okay, got it :)
[17:22] <rtdos> hey all, just read an article on Wired that "claims" OSX killed the Linux Desktop, what do you guys think? have you seen the article?
[17:22] <NEone> afloater: If you want to make a dual-boot installation, I recommend making a copy (an image) of your windows partitions before starting. The "clonezille" bootable CD as imaging software and a big USB harddrive as target might serve good for this.
[17:22] <ChogyDan> rtdos: read the few lines posted above yours
[17:22] <bazhang> rtdos, thats offtopic here
[17:22] <frafra> f0reign3r okey, thank you I'll google "Unetbootin" to see what it is
[17:22] <bazhang> frafra, unetbootin.sourceforge.net
[17:23] <NEone> clonezilla*
[17:23] <zeitgeist> smw: Actually kickstart work as far as automating the install process, the only problem I have is using wget in the pre-install script. Do you mean Ubuntu's kickstart implementation is not to be considered stable ? I woulnd't mind using preseeding but my whole install thing is due tomorrow...
[17:23] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: try it, see how it goes
[17:24] <ActionParsnip> ChogyDan: I use leafpad and nano
[17:24] <smw> zeitgeist, I did not even know ubuntu had a kickstart implementation
[17:24] <frafra> bazhang thank you
[17:24] <smw> zeitgeist, no need to scrap your current one. Ignore me :-)
[17:24] <eleazar> I'm back with another noob question :\ i installed sickbeard using a ppa, it installed fine, but when i type the application name in dash home, the app doesn't come up. is there any way to make dash home refresh currently installed applications?
[17:25] <zeitgeist> smw, you scared me there ! Thanks for answering anyway :)
[17:25] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: try running it from terminal, the output may give clues
[17:25] <smw> eleazar, I have never install SB from packages, are you sure it is not running from init.d?
[17:25] <smw> eleazar, it is a service with a web interface
[17:26] <eleazar> smw, well i assumed it wasn't running b/c i thought on first run it would open firefox to the web interface, is that rong?
[17:26] <eleazar> *wrong
[17:26] <smw> eleazar, most likely wrong, yes
[17:26] <eleazar> lol
[17:26] <smw> eleazar, do ps -ef | grep -i sick
[17:27] <eleazar> smw,  27218 25776  0 13:26 pts/1    00:00:00 grep --color=auto -i sick
[17:27] <smw> eleazar, in that case it is not running
[17:27] <eleazar> ah ok
[17:27] <eleazar> how do i run manually from terminal?
[17:27] <smw> eleazar, I have no idea how the people who made the packages set it up
[17:28] <smw> eleazar, if they did it right, there is a file in /etc/default/ named sickbeard
[17:28] <smw> eleazar, is there?
[17:28] <eleazar> i'll check
[17:29] <atrus> smw: isn't /usr/share/applications/sickbeard.desktop more likely to be useful?
[17:29] <eleazar> sm no there isn't :(
[17:29] <eleazar> *smw
[17:29] <smw> atrus, does that exist?
[17:30] <smw> eleazar, see atrus's post
[17:30] <atrus> i expect that's what the dash search for
[17:30] <atrus> and what would cause it to show up in the list of applications, where i'm guessing it's missing for eleazar
[17:30] <rtdos> am using ubuntu server 12.04  - how do i create a cron script to automatically shut off the system at midnight (have the bios starting the system every morning at 7AM) ...???
[17:31] <ikonia> rtdos: sudo shutdown -h now run that script at midnight every day
[17:31] <smw> atrus, the issue is I don't know these packages... I installed it manually as a service on startup
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> rtdos: sudo crontab -e
[17:31] <romy420> hi, is there a way to 'undelete' files/folders that were deleted with rm -rf?
[17:32] <eleazar> atrus, smw i think you're right, it's looking in /usr/share/applications/ for dash home apps
[17:32] <ikonia> romy420: not really
[17:32] <eleazar> how do i add sickbeard to that? :\
[17:32] <atrus> eleazar: what is it you're trying to do exactly?
[17:32] <f0reign3r> romy420: perhaps using ddrescue, but i've never tried it
[17:32] <ikonia> that won't work
[17:32] <smw> eleazar, try running sickbeard -D
[17:32] <smw> eleazar, (or whatever the cmd is called)
[17:33] <romy420> too bas ... ty
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> rtdos: add the line:   0 0 * * * shutdown -h now
[17:33] <romy420> *bad
[17:33] <ikonia> use a full path to shutdown
[17:33] <Mysterytrain> if I copy /home to another partition will it also copy the filesystems I have mounted in it? In other words should I umount stuff before copying?
[17:33] <ikonia> cron has no shell envkiornment
[17:33] <ikonia> enviornment
[17:34] <smw> eleazar, I need to go. Good luck :-)
[17:34] <rtdos> OK so it should be "crontab -e" then "0 0 * * * /bin/shutdown -h now" ?
[17:34] <afloater> ActionParsnip: I dont understand why connecting to different network changes nameserver to localhost
[17:34] <p1l0t> is 00 a fail in crontab?
[17:34] <afloater> is there a local dns service that ubuntu uses now
[17:34] <ikonia> rtdos: sudo
[17:34] <ikonia> rtdos: also make sure you have "NOPASSWD" setup for sudo
[17:34] <hfic> 00 is a negative in cron
[17:34] <wad> I've got an ebook file. What's a good reader for these? Searching in the software center didn't turn up much.
[17:34] <atrus> afloater: sort of.
[17:34] <bazhang> wad what format
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> rtdos: the sudo crontab -e     will cron as root (needed for shutdown), the next bit I gave was to be added to the file. When you exit the editor the cron will be added
[17:35] <afloater> Id like to disable it
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> rtdos: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cron
[17:35] <afloater> it responds way to slowly
[17:35] <afloater> plus its not ideal when you have intranet dns
[17:35] <wad> > file 18.epub -----------> 18.epub: EPUB ebook data
[17:35] <ChogyDan> afloater: try dig hostname to test it out
[17:35] <bazhang> wad, fbreader iirc or okular
[17:35] <wad> ok, thanks
[17:36] <ActionParsnip> afloater: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-disable-dnsmasq-in-ubuntu-12-04precise.html
[17:36] <atrus> afloater: it's just a proxy to whatever dns server you've configured, so it's unlikely to cause any timing problems.
[17:36] <wad> bazhang, looks good, thanks!
[17:36] <afloater> it does not seem to be working at all
[17:36] <afloater> not sure why
[17:36] <atrus> afloater: just make sure you've listed the right server in your network configuration (eg, run nm-connection-editor, and edit the config there)
[17:37] <atrus> you don't typically edit /etc/resolv.conf by hand any more. there's a number of reasons why doing it with dnsmasq is better, mostly related to vpns, but getting it all done one way is a plus too.
[17:37] <eleazar> sorry, was afk for a minute :\
[17:37] <afloater> ActionParsnip: thank you
[17:38] <atrus> afloater: my guess is that you configured it manually, and the fact that those manual changes don't happen any more is the source of your problem.
[17:39] <atrus> afloater: ActionParsnip's link is likely not a good long-term solution.
[17:39] <afloater> not configured manually at all
[17:39] <afloater> its NM
[17:40] <zeitgeist> I'm still looking for a kickstart / installation environment hero to help me understand why wget won't even give me an error message when use in a pre-install script
[17:40] <afloater> everytime I reconnect to another dhcp server it changes resolv.conf's namerserver to localhost
[17:40] <atrus> afloater: that's supposed to happen.
[17:40] <afloater> Id like to just pull w/e namerservers are local
[17:40] <soman> I have a disc with windows image. Why can't I see its contents in Ubuntu 12.04 after putting it in CDROM? I'm looking at /cdrom
[17:40] <rochak> can anyone suggest me how to set default permision in folder in Ubuntu?
[17:41] <ikonia> umask
[17:41] <wad> soman, check in /media
[17:41] <batteronizer> Hi, need a little help. I have a USB modem and for some reason not able to connect to it through the usual Edit Connections->Mobile broadband
[17:41] <batteronizer> so I connected through wvdial
[17:41] <rochak> ikonia: hello. umask do i need that?
[17:41] <ikonia> rochak: yes
[17:42] <rochak> ikonia: i read about g+s . what does it do?
[17:42] <soman> wad: I have floppy0 and apt folders in media
[17:42] <ikonia> they are chmod options
[17:42] <atrus> afloater: n-m puts whatever nameserver it thinks it should use in /var/run/nm-dns-dnsmasq.conf, which your dnsmasq will use. if there are servers there you don't expect to use, then the config in NM is probably set up to use the dns server provided by dhcp.
[17:42] <ikonia> gor setuid on group
[17:42] <ikonia> for
[17:42] <wad> soman, Can you see the drive from: cat /proc/partitions
[17:42] <Jordan_U> soman: Please pastebin the output of "sudo blkid" and "mount".
[17:44] <rochak> ikonia: oh, Ok let me try with umask then
[17:44] <wad> soman, what do you mean "windows image"? Do you mean it's a Windows install disk of some sort? CDs use the ISO 9660 format, which linux reads quite nicely...
[17:44] <soman> wad: windows install disk
[17:45] <soman> Jordan_U: http://paste.kde.org/546794/29907913/
[17:45] <push> changed /etc/sudoers still unable to update /etc/hosts file with sudo
[17:46] <wad> soman, ah, maybe there is some MicroSoft trickery going on then. I don't see the drive... can you see a different CD when you insert it?
[17:46] <ActionParsnip> push: can you give the line you added please?
[17:46] <soman> wad: I'll check it now... just a min
[17:46] <ikonia> push: why have you changed /etc/sudoers
[17:46] <batteronizer> but the network status still shows up as disconnected
[17:47] <Jordan_U> soman: I don't see any CDROM listed by blkid, but I expect to. Is the CDROM drive connected properly and powered up?
[17:47] <batteronizer> and applications like software center and empathy aren't able to see the connection either
[17:48] <push> # User privilege specification
[17:48] <ikonia> push: why have you changed /etc/sudoers
[17:48] <rtdos> @ikonia - how do i setup the "NOPASSWD" option for sudo again?
[17:48] <push> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[17:48] <push> jaya    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[17:48] <wad> Jordan_U, yeah, checking another more "normal" CD should give us this info. :)
[17:48] <batteronizer> so, even though i'm connected, i'm unable to use those applications
[17:48] <soman> Jordan_U: yes
[17:48] <soman> Sorry people
[17:48] <ActionParsnip> rtdos: its not a good idea, it removes a LOT of security in your OS
[17:48] <wad> rtdos, also, it needs to be the last line in the file.
[17:48] <soman> After re-inserting the disc all works now
[17:49] <push> ikonia: was unable to update hosts file with sudo so tried  changing sudoers
[17:49] <wad> We fixed it!!
[17:49] <ikonia> push: the default sudo rules will allow you to update /etc/hosts
[17:49] <eleazar> atrus, i installed sickbeard via a ppa, but it's not showing up in dash home, and i can't figure out how to run it from the command line (I'm a linux noob :( )
[17:49] <soman> One more Q: is it etc/hosts file has same meaning as Windows hosts file?
[17:49] <Sokel> push: Exactly what ikonia said. You basically are now putting conflicts in the sudoers file. Remove it, now.
[17:49] <ActionParsnip> push: doesn't the line need starting with a percent sign?
[17:49] <ikonia> push: how are you editing the sudoers file
[17:50] <batteronizer> soman: yes
[17:50] <soman> batteronizer: thanks
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> push: for the groupname
[17:50] <atrus> eleazar: if it's not in the dash home, i'd call that a bug in the package. you may be able to work around that, eg, by running dpkg -L <package name> to see if there's a file in /usr/bin that should be executed
[17:50] <manisabri> I changed the usb port of my web cam and its not working any more , any ideas? I don't remember which port it was and I have 30 of them !!
[17:50] <smt> hi, i recently changed my hardware and now lm-sensors doesnt find any sensors (apart from hdd and gpu) i already ran sensors-detect... the new motherboard is an asus M5A78L-M LE
[17:50] <soman> Jordan_U: is cdrom should be a visible by those commands you gave me? Maybe I should mount it?
[17:51] <push> @ActionParsnip: # User privilege specification
[17:51] <push> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[17:51] <push> jaya    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[17:51] <ikonia> push: please stop posting that
[17:51] <Sokel> push: You're being dumb. Remove your name from the sudoers file.
[17:51] <atrus> eleazar: or see if it has something in /usr/share/doc/<package name> that would explain some first-steps.
[17:51] <ikonia> start answering the questions actually asked
[17:51] <ikonia> push: 1.) what was the command you used to edit sudo
[17:51] <ikonia> push: 2.) what is the command you are using to try to edit /etc/hosts
[17:51] <rochak> ikonia: gtg
[17:51] <eleazar> atrus, ah ok, i'll check those, thanks
[17:52] <wad> soman, actually, you have it backwards. The windows hosts file has the same meaning as the UNIX one. :)
[17:52] <atrus> eleazar: it could be the sort of program that just runs on startup in the background, and you access it via your web-browser on http://localhost:<some port> or something
[17:53] <eleazar> atrus, assuming this was a normal package that installed correctly, how would i normally launch it from terminal?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: have you read any man pages, websites or did you just thrown in the package and start guessing how it is used?
[17:54] <afloater> atrus: Id rather disable the dnsmasq stuff
[17:54] <afloater> dont see the benefit
[17:55] <bobweaver> go go speed  racer   afloater  ?
[17:55] <eleazar> ActionParsnip, i have been using sickbeard on windows for a year or so, so i know how sickbeard works, i just don't know linux :\ so i have no read any man pages :(
[17:55] <atrus> afloater: the simplest benefit is probably just that your system is configured the way ubuntu expects, so it'll be easier to get support later.
[17:55] <manisabri> ubuntu 11.10 64 , changed webcam usb port , not working any more , any ideas?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> eleazar: think you may want to find out how it runs on linux then, its clearly different
[17:56] <bobweaver> eleazar,  sickbread works on Ubuntu  http://www.ainer.org/sick-beard-install-setup-configuration-guide-for-ubuntu-linux-mint
[17:57] <eleazar> bobweaver, thanks! i'll check that out too
[17:57] <push> oh i lost the link
[17:57] <bobweaver> eleazar,  there is also mythtv and Ubuntu tv that is comming soon (Ubutnu tv ) there is also other things xbmc ect
[17:58] <bobweaver> gnome dvb ect
[17:59] <eleazar> wow nice
[18:00] <bobweaver> eleazar,  I am a huge fan of myth-tv   But help and work on Ubuntu tv everyday it will be great maybe in Ubuntu 13.10  or Ubuntu 13.04 we will all know soon
[18:00] <theadmin> Can anyone help me get magnet: links working? None of the torrent clients I tried work (I tried Deluge, uTorrent, Vuze...). Preferably in Deluge.
[18:00] <theadmin> Oh, the browser is Firefox.
[18:00] <push> Sorry i had lost the link.
[18:00] <push> couldnt change hosts file with sudo. So updated sudoers to
[18:00] <push> # User privilege specification
[18:00] <push> root    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[18:00] <push> jaya    ALL=(ALL) ALL
[18:00] <FloodBot1> push: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:00] <rtdos> OK, thanks.
[18:00] <push> Still unable to update hosts file
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: works in transmission last I tried (if I remember correctly)
[18:00] <Lunar_Lamp> push: log out and back in again.
[18:00] <auronandace> push: stop it
[18:00] <ikonia> push: if you post that again - you will be removed from the hcannel
[18:00] <ikonia> push: answer the questions
[18:00] <ikonia> push: 1.) what was the command you used to edit sudo
[18:00] <ikonia> push: 2.) what is the command you are using to try to edit /etc/hosts
[18:01] <rtdos> one more question (2 parts): does ubuntu server come with sdl / opengl installed? if not how do i install the sdl / opengl libraries?
[18:01] <theadmin> ActionParsnip: Ok... Transmission isn't a client I want to use (I have reasons -- some trackers I use don't allow it)
[18:01] <bobweaver> Dulge I thought you just go to file->open and paste in the magent
[18:01] <theadmin> bobweaver: Yeah, but I want to simply click the link in the browser, you know?
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> theadmin: ive used transgui and it accepts magnet links and they get sent to my server
[18:01] <push> visudo from #
[18:02] <UbuntuBookPro> Hey guys. I get terrible battery life on my Macbook Pro, what can I do about that?
[18:02] <bobweaver> theadmin,  Yeah I know and feel the pain also sometimes
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> !mac | UbuntuBookPro
[18:02] <ska> Can I deinstall a set of packages via dpkg --set-selections list.txt, where list.txt has the packages listed with "deinstall" after the package name?
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> ubottu: may have some tips / settings
[18:02] <bobweaver> what is kubutu torrent client ? try that . theadmin
[18:02] <theadmin> ska: Probably. But why no thave a list of packages and pass it on to apt-get remove? (sudo apt-get remove $(cat something))
[18:03] <theadmin> bobweaver: Meh... Ok, thanks, I'll figure it out myself.
[18:03] <bobweaver> ska,  what ?  dpkg-query -l | grep <name of package>   ??
[18:04] <theadmin> ska: If you're modifying the dpkg state you might want to run "sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade" after  modifying the states.
[18:04] <ckaeboss> Hey all. Is there any tool I can use to securely erase a file? I want at least 22 swipes.
[18:04] <theadmin> ckaeboss: Linux comes with "shred", try that. "man shred" for a manual.
[18:04] <bobweaver> srm  ckaeboss  ?
[18:04] <rsw> i have a small question involving virtualbox this pci passtrough setup i installed some old gfx for the host and my gamin card i put in other pcix slot but ubuntu is not detecting it
[18:04] <ckaeboss> theadmin thanks
[18:04] <bobweaver> !info srm
[18:04] <bobweaver> pff
[18:05] <bobweaver> !info secure-delete
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> cheez0r: why 22, you only need 1
[18:05] <rsw> or is a seperate gfx not needed for that ?
[18:05] <push> ikonia: sudo cat $new >> /etc/hosts
[18:05] <rtdos>  one more question (2 parts): does ubuntu server come with sdl / opengl installed? if not how do i install the sdl / opengl libraries?
[18:05] <selite> Hello. I know the stack limit is defined by the OS, but how do I check how much stack I have and is there a way to modify it?
[18:05] <theadmin> push: Well that won't work
[18:05] <selite> I am aware of the portability issues that may arise due that.
[18:05] <ActionParsnip> push: sudo doesn't traverse the redirection
[18:06] <crypticmofi> hi all
[18:06] <push> oh. So way out?
[18:06] <theadmin> push: >> is a shell thing, your bash isn't running as root so >> isn't working. Use this instead: cat new | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[18:06] <crypticmofi> how can i get rid of the ubuntu 12 launcher stuff looking thing
[18:06] <crypticmofi> i think its bogging down my system
[18:06] <theadmin> push: Remove "-a" if you'd use > rather than >> normally
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> push: echo $new | sudo tee -a /etc/hosts
[18:06] <kopoba> any one how know japanes language pm me plizz i need help in translation
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> !japan
[18:06] <ActionParsnip> !jp
[18:07] <theadmin> kopoba, ActionParsnip: Translations aren't something discussed or supported on any Ubuntu channels, except maybe #ubuntu-offtopic...
[18:07] <ckaeboss> theadmin: I see that they say one option is -n or --iterations=N. Can I just use --iterations=50 if I want to swipe over it 50 times?
[18:07] <theadmin> ckaeboss: Correct
[18:07] <crypticmofi> any ideas ?
[18:07] <ckaeboss> theadmin: thanks
[18:07] <ska> theadmin: yea, I have a big list of packages I want to remove and this seems like the fasted way to try it. I'm fuzzy on the details after a long time.
[18:07] <crypticmofi> or what i the launcher stuff in ubuntu 12 so i can google it ?
[18:07] <theadmin> !notunity | crypticmofi
[18:07] <push> theadmin : thank you . i was fixing wrong thing
[18:07] <kopoba> theadmin #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[18:08] <theadmin> kopoba: Yeah, it's a channel for about anything
[18:08] <kopoba> theadmin thanks
[18:08] <push> actionparsnip:thanx
[18:08] <fobo> does anyone know how can i collect information of a usb 3g modem
[18:08] <auronandace> fobo: lsusb
[18:08] <bobweaver> lsusb fobo
[18:09] <theadmin> push: Hint: use "sudo -i" to get a root shell and then you can run commands as you normally would. It's not really safe though (you may erase something you don't want to, for instance)
[18:09] <fobo> thanks :)
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> fobo: lsusb   is a good start
[18:09] <ska> theadmin: at least that is how I used to do it. but i forgot the dselect-upgrade part
[18:09] <crypticmofi> theadmin so just isntall gnome-panel ?
[18:09] <theadmin> crypticmofi: Yeah, pretty much
[18:09] <fobo> i'll send information to the usb modeswitch developer :)
[18:10] <crypticmofi> theadmin then reboot or logout ?
[18:11] <theadmin> crypticmofi: Log out, click the gear-looking thingy, choose "GNOME Fallback" (or "GNOME Classic") out of the list
[18:11] <rsw> nobody knows why ubuntu does not detect my other gfx card :(
[18:11] <dr_willis> what other card
[18:12] <push> theadmin: thanx. I was working on a script . Only beacaus of this line I was not able to avail it to normal users. should I revert changes in sudoers ?
[18:12] <bobweaver> rsw please PASTEBIN  the output os      lspci -nn | grep VGA
[18:12] <theadmin> push: Probably. They won't really hurt but they do nothing long as you are in the "admin" group
[18:12] <Jordan_U> push: Yes.
[18:13] <fobo> i think lsusb seems didn't get enough. what if i should supply denser information?
[18:13] <xevwork> I'm in dependency hell. I'm trying to backport samba 3.6.7 to Lucid using pbuilder. I need to install a newer version of debhelper, but it requires dh-apparmor. When I try to compile apparmor, it requires debhelper! Any tips?
[18:13] <push> theadmin: ok
[18:13] <kbrosnan> theadmin: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Register_protocol
[18:13] <sliddjur> I did a sudo useradd peter and passwd peter. then i tried to login with peter from the regular login window. why doesnt it work?
[18:13] <rsw> http://pastebin.com/1qzVT0rK there should be a 480gtx in the other pci slot
[18:14] <ska> theadmin: i see the point of your first comment. It also allows you to run the command with -s flag so you can check its action.
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> sliddjur: what happens when you log in? saying "it doesn't work" tells us nothing
[18:14] <theadmin> kbrosnan: Thanks!
[18:14] <codemaniac> ~/j perl
[18:14] <ActionParsnip> codemaniac: try:  /j #perl
[18:14] <sliddjur> actionparsnip: something black comes with a text i am too slow to read. then a sound. and straight back to logon screen
[18:15] <rtdos> one more question (2 parts): does ubuntu server come with sdl / opengl installed? if not how do i install the sdl / opengl libraries?
[18:15] <watermark> holy shit godaddy is down
[18:15] <codemaniac> ActionParsnip: thanks :D
[18:15] <IdleOne> !language | watermark
[18:15] <watermark> holy cow godaddy is down
[18:16] <IdleOne> watermark: What does that have to do with Ubuntu?
[18:16] <theadmin> IdleOne: Now fire !ot ;)
[18:16] <watermark> it affects everything
[18:16] <rsw> stop doss nowz
[18:16] <watermark> I'm done thou
[18:16] <IdleOne> theadmin: !language actually covers !ot also
[18:16] <theadmin> IdleOne: Guess so. Sorry.
[18:16] <IdleOne> theadmin: no worries :)
[18:16] <rtdos> is there a #channel for ubuntu server ?
[18:17] <IdleOne> #ubuntu-server
[18:17] <theadmin> rtdos: Yep, #ubuntu-server
[18:17] <rtdos> thanks.
[18:17] <rsw> brb gonna check bios if the pci lane is enabled cos i dont know what else to do to get the other card detected
[18:18] <Jordan_U> rtdos: Are you looking for the development libraries (headers), or the runtime libraries? If you're looking for the runtime libraries they should be installed when you install any package which needs them. What is your end goal?
[18:18] <rtdos> @Jordan_U: both.
[18:19] <theadmin> rtdos: OpenGL implementations are provided by whoever created your GPU driver, so search for a -dev package with your GPU driver's name in front of that.
[18:19] <sukima> What hardware does http://www.ubuntu.com/devices/android
[18:19] <rtdos> @Jordan_U: want to run wolf4sdl, doom, and mame ports but most importantly want to develop games using sdl / opengl
[18:20] <miraj> people still play doom?
[18:20] <Jordan_U> rtdos: sudo apt-get install wolf4sdl
[18:20] <rtdos> one stupid question, do the sdl libraries require a gui ?
[18:21] <Jordan_U> rtdos: You can build applications against sdl without a GUI, but you need a GUI to actually run said application (unless maybe it's audio only).
[18:23] <rtdos> ok thanks Jordan_U
[18:24] <rtdos> @Jordan_U am back to: how do i d/l the development libraries for SDL/OpenGL ?
[18:24] <Jordan_U> rtdos: "apt-cache showsrc wolf4sdl" shows that wolf4sdl build-depends on libsdl1.2-dev and libsdl-mixer1.2-dev. I don't know enough about sdl to say if that's what you'll want to develop against as well.
[18:25] <drecute> karamel4e_:  what backups?
[18:26] <rocket_hamster> rtdos: sudo apt-get libsdl1.2-dev
[18:26] <karamel4e_> recute: What's the question?
[18:26] <karamel4e_> drecute: What's the question?
[18:28] <Jordan_U> rocket_hamster: You forgot "install".
[18:28] <rocket_hamster> rtdos: sudo apt-get install mesa-common-dev freeglut3-dev
[18:28] <rocket_hamster> that should be it
[18:28] <miraj> are there any snmp utils? (to manage snmp-able devices)
[18:31] <kevin__> can I ask...Which graphics driver is likely to be best for linux, NVidea or ATI?
[18:31] <ska> Is there a logout equivalent in dash?
[18:31] <ahferroin7> ska: exit
[18:32] <miraj> kevin__ : always an opinion, but I'd say ATI
[18:32] <ska> ahferroin7: I want to put it into a script so that it logs out the user, instead of ending ther script.
[18:32] <kevin__> opinion accepted miraj
[18:32] <kevin__> and thanks
[18:32] <theadmin> ska: You can't exactly do that...
[18:33] <ska> theadmin: yea,, I'm thinking "kill -9 -1"
[18:33] <rsw> so can i some way let ubuntu scan for new hardware because it fails to detect my second gfx card
[18:33] <karamel4e_> drecute, what about the backups
[18:33] <dr_willis> kevin__: i avoid ati like its the plague...
[18:33] <theadmin> ska: idk if that would work
[18:34] <kevin__> opinion  noted dr_wills
[18:34] <ska> theadmin: it does..
[18:34] <ska> theadmin: but its kinda crude.
[18:34] <theadmin> ska: Yeah, but logging out a user is not something scripts normally do.
[18:35] <miraj> kevin__ : the alternative you proposed, Nvidia, has real driver problems for most users
[18:36] <kevin__> I have two ubuntu machines in the house, same network, which file sharing system should I use? Mostly I want to access movies on my main  pc and watch on my laptop?
[18:36] <compdoc> kevin__, samba isnt bad
[18:37] <D3> hello! I was wondering if there's any channel where I can beg for help with Ubuntu ? I installed a tar.bz2 and im unable to load the program :(
[18:37] <dr_willis> kevin__:  upnp/dlna servers are handy  for video sgareing
[18:37] <Kevin`> kevin__: I use nfs, since it's a bit faster, but really anything works, use whatever is easiest
[18:37] <kevin__> really I want the easiest to set up...editing files and stuff is a little bit scary
[18:38] <Euph0ria-XX> hello all.  I've been giving the btrfs fs a try and I've encountered my first errors with the filesystem.  I'm not sure how to repair the filesystem though.  Can anyone help teach me a bit about that?
[18:38] <ahferroin7> kevin__: sshfs is easy, although it is somewhat slow
[18:39] <ahferroin7> EuphOria-XX: I'm pretty sure there isn't a repair program for btrfs yet
[18:39] <kevin__> sshfs? not looked at that. I did try   nfs but got lot in the set  up.
[18:39] <D3> anyone experienced with tar.bz2 compilation ?
[18:39] <miraj> kevin__ : do you intend the watch the video live on-the-fly, or transfer them forst and then watch them?
[18:39] <kevin__> miraj, transfer (temporarily) and watch later
[18:40] <miraj> kevin__ : in that case, ftp is fastest
[18:40] <Kevin`> kevin__: any specific reason? even wifi is fast enough to watch them on the fly
[18:40] <Euph0ria-XX> I recall reading that there has been a repair tool since quantal alpha-1 but I was hoping someone here might have had a bit more experience with the testing of the alphas.
[18:40] <ozette> are webpages rendered differently in Chrome on ubuntu compared to chrome on windows?
[18:41] <ska> Is there a system script that logs a person completely out?
[18:41] <theadmin> ozette: Nope, same engine (webkit)
[18:41] <Euph0ria-XX> I'm using alpha 3.  There should be a beta by now...
[18:41] <theadmin> !quantal | Euph0ria-XX
[18:41] <Euph0ria-XX> but apparently not.
[18:41] <dr_willis> ozette:  never seen a diferance
[18:41] <kevin__> wow, kevin...I was not able to do that. I did use ssh and managed to access konsole.
[18:41] <kevin__> that is far as I can share
[18:41] <raido> Finally retiring a Dapper Drake server this week. Shes been running Ubuntu since Warty and has never undergone any hardware upgrades. She has been a faithful Hylafax, Snedmail, Spamassassin, Vexira server for 8 years and when I turn her off she will have 500 days of uptime.
[18:41] <ozette> theadmin, I designed a webpage to work in Chrome, FF, IE and Opera, I did this in a windows vm, when I brought the files over to Ubuntu it looked really messed up in Chrome
[18:42] <layke> How would I auto mount on startup... This is what I currently type...
[18:42] <layke> sudo mount --bind /media/6d722723-7eb9-4b60-9e7c-8f958e36e739/home/layke /home/layke
[18:42] <kevin__> I will look into sshfs, thanks for all the help.
[18:42] <ozette> I spent so much time on it, but now I see it in chrome I feel weird.
[18:43] <raido> 			Feedback
[18:43] <Euph0ria-XX> Ok, sorry.  I was just hoping someone had some more experience than I with the btrfs in new releases and it might be simple.  lol
[18:43] <dr_willis> layke:  just edit the /etc/fstab file to mount that drive  where you want.
[18:43] <dr_willis> layke:  no need to have it in /m,edia/ and /home/ both
[18:44] <layke> Would I just add it like...  /media/6d722723-7eb9-4b60-9e7c-8f958e36e739/home/layke /home/layke auto
[18:44] <dr_willis> !fstab | layke
[18:45] <ozette> I share a folder with my Windows VM, as soon as I put the webpage in there It looks different, like that shared folder is affecting my file - i.e a webfont not being 20px anymore but all of a sudden 10px
[18:45] <ozette> anyone ever experienced such thing?
[18:45] <dr_willis> layke:  what filesystem is that partition anyway?
[18:45] <layke> dr_willis, How do I detect that? df something? I can't reemmeber?
[18:45] <ozette> just by opening the file from that shared folder somethings look different
[18:45] <calico> I have an issue with my atheros wireless, it keeps dropping me, could I do something about it? It starts ok after installation, and then the problem keeps on getting more and more intensive
[18:46] <layke> dr_willis, df -T remembered. It's ext4
[18:46] <sliddjur> So im taking my first linux class. where would be a good place to store files that are supposed to be shared between groups?
[18:48] <miraj> sliddjur : under /home is usually Ok
[18:48] <sliddjur> in /usr/groupfolder ?
[18:48] <ratcheer> sliddjur: Make a subdirectory under /home
[18:48] <WeThePeople> hi
[18:48] <sliddjur> ok. why not in /usr?
[18:49] <miraj> sliddjur : /usr is usually more for system things rather than shared user files
[18:49] <ratcheer> sliddjur: Put it wherever you want, just make sure it is a special subdirectory.
[18:49] <theadmin> sliddjur: /usr is much of a system directory, it's a second-level hierarchy, sort of "a second /", so to say.
[18:50] <sliddjur> I made the groupfolder g+s and group owner of the specific group
[18:50] <ChogyDan> calico: what version of ubuntu?
[18:50] <sliddjur> ratcheer: is that what u mean by special subdir?
[18:50] <calico> ChogyDan: the latest
[18:51] <ChogyDan> calico: I thought atheros issues were a thing of the past, but you could try installing linux backports modules
[18:51] <ratcheer> sliddjur: I just mean a folder that's used by nothing else, a new folder. But, I agree with theadmin
[18:51] <sliddjur> Alright. will do that :)
[18:51] <sliddjur> thanks folks
[18:52] <theadmin> It seems Ubuntu dropped support for about every architecture but i386 and amd64, is that really so?
[18:53] <ph1rmw4r3> why use /usr insted of /home/user ??
[18:53] <calico> ChogyDan: how do I go about that, I find only old threads
[18:54] <miraj> theadmin : as of two days ago, macs apparently were
[18:54] <Orpheon> I need help with my ubuntu 11.10; The whole thing crashes at boot. Escaping to console with Alt-Ctrl-F1 and typing startx starts the whole GUI, but Pulseaudio is dead, the networking services ditto and unity refuses to start in unity-non-2d.
[18:55] <sliddjur> If a dir has g+s can users of that group execute files?
[18:55] <ChogyDan> calico: Im not sure actually.  It's changed every release, and I can't quite figure this one out.  Doesn't really seem to be in the repos that I can see
[18:56] <miraj> Orpheon : does the hardware work OK in other os's (like windows for example)?
[18:56] <Orpheon> The logs in lightdm say that a service lightdm-greeter could not be executed because of missing permissions
[18:56] <push> getting error in script  snippet http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197218/
[18:56] <ChogyDan> Orpheon: why aren't you on 12.04?
[18:56] <Orpheon> idk, it's not a dualboot
[18:56] <Orpheon> ChogyDan: because this isn't my laptop
[18:56] <theadmin> miraj: "macs" is not a processor architecture, unless you're refering to the old ppc arch (which interests me too though)
[18:56] <eleazar> is there a firewall built into ubuntu?
[18:56] <theadmin> But primarily, I wonder why there's no more support for ia64
[18:56] <jrib> sliddjur: your question isn't clear, but in any case g+s should be irrelevant as to wherer or not a user can execute a file
[18:56] <theadmin> eleazar: Yes, Ubuntu comes with ufw (an iptables frontend)
[18:57] <Orpheon> pulseaudio also complains of access denied on a ListAdapters reply
[18:57] <Orpheon> whatever that means
[18:57] <ChogyDan> Orpheon: is there room on the HDD?
[18:57] <eleazar> theadmin, great, how do i open ufw? (it's not showing up in dash home)
[18:58] <theadmin> eleazar: It's a command-line tool. If you want a GUI, install "gufw" from the software center.
[18:58] <ssta> theadmin: largely because nobody was interested enough to maintain it I think...it was never that widespread an architecture
[18:58] <theadmin> ssta: Guess that makes sense... I just hope there are no plans to drop i386 since it's no longer really "widespread"
[18:58] <BluesKaj> Orpheon, check if alsa is stiil installed then , pulseuadio runs on top of alsa as a sound server
[18:59] <Orpheon> ChogyDan: yes, there is 261 GB
[18:59] <Orpheon> free
[18:59] <eleazar> theadmin, awesome, thanks!
[18:59] <ssta> theadmin: I doubt there are plans, but the day will come I'm sure
[18:59] <Orpheon> BluesKaj: alsa seems to be up and running
[19:00] <ChogyDan> Orpheon: well, I dunno.  Maybe there are clues if you knew how this started.  Upgrading and clean installing are both good ways to start clean
[19:01] <Orpheon> ChogyDan: I suspect doing stuff with compiz destroyed stuff
[19:01] <ChogyDan> BluesKaj: Orpheon: I thought alsa ran on top of pulse as a plugin
[19:01] <Orpheon> but I'm not sure
[19:01] <theadmin> ssta: Well I'm on amd64 mostly, speaking of, what -march is used when official packages for amd64 are compiled? k8? core2?
[19:02] <eleazar> ah, looks like the firewall is disabled by default
[19:02] <ssta> theadmin: I dunno
[19:03] <theadmin> ssta: Ok, never mind, not much of an important thing anyway
[19:03] <BluesKaj> ChogyDan, nope , it's the reverse , altho pulse isn't a plugin
[19:03] <ChogyDan> Orpheon: well, I used to run a separate /home so I could easily reinstall if I messed things up.  Reinstalling really can be the easier than trying to track down problems individually
[19:03] <ChogyDan> BluesKaj: I was saying that alsa is a plugin
[19:04] <BluesKaj> ChogyDan, you can run alsa without pulse but pulse can't run without alsa
[19:05] <ChogyDan> BluesKaj: I have always heard the opposite, which is why I asked
[19:05] <ChogyDan> but I don't really know
[19:05] <BluesKaj> well , whoever says that, is misinformed , ChogyDan
[19:06] <theadmin> ChogyDan: ALSA is the common linux sound system. Pulse is another sound system, which uses ALSA as a backend and adds more capabilities to it.
[19:07] <BluesKaj> too bad we need pulseaudio ,. alsa used towork fine on it's own ,,now the devs are barely expanding it's capabilities due to pulse getting all the dev work
[19:08] <Phiscribe> i cant remember pulse ever working right
[19:09] <Orpheon> still need help, if anyone has to give
[19:10] <BluesKaj> Phiscribe, it seems ok on my setup, I just think if alsa could be configured to work with webaudio like flash audio , then pulse would be redundant
[19:10] <rtdos> ok lost sudo capability, am getting weird messages when i try to use sudo. how can i fix this without logging in as root?
[19:10] <Phiscribe> i got systems what have browers that play sound, no pulse, just alsa
[19:11] <ChogyDan> theadmin: again, I have read the opposite everytime.  This is the first I have heard alsa being a backend to pulse.  My understanding is pulse took over everything, and supported alsa as a legacy via a plugin
[19:11] <unknown420> can a staffer please give me an unaffilated clock?
[19:11] <theadmin> ChogyDan: Well that sounds completely wrong.
[19:11] <unknown420> cloak?
[19:11] <theadmin> unknown420: #freenode please
[19:11] <theadmin> unknown420: Not here
[19:11] <Phiscribe> pulse is an abstraction layer, if alsa is busted, no pusle
[19:11] <unknown420> where?
[19:12] <theadmin> unknown420: As I said, join the #freenode channel.
[19:12] <BluesKaj> Phiscribe, using onboard audio on those systems without pulse?
[19:12] <unknown420> cheers
[19:12] <HEuiHEUIhEui> hi everyone, what irc client you use?
[19:13] <theadmin> HEuiHEUIhEui: Please refrain from taking polls in this channel, this here is for support issues only.
[19:13] <Phiscribe> pulseaudio is like a software mixer.  its on top of the userland, it requires something under like alsa, pulse is never required
[19:13] <HEuiHEUIhEui> I'm trying a lot os clients, what´s the top client actually?
[19:13] <jagginess> HEuiHEUIhEui, there's google I use-> "List of irc clients linux site:wikipedia.org"
[19:14] <HEuiHEUIhEui> jagginess: and for windows?
[19:14] <theadmin> Phiscribe: Infact, Gnome 3 "requires" Pulse. More of, they were too lazy to let it control ALSA directly so they only let it use Pulse.
[19:14] <jagginess> HEuiHEUIhEui, google
[19:14] <doug1> Does anyone have any idea what packages besides ntp may create the ntp user? is there an easy way to find out?
[19:14] <jrib> rtdos: you should pastebin the "weird" messages
[19:14] <Phiscribe> theadmin oh i didnt know that, how foobared
[19:14] <Phiscribe> still alsa has to be in there
[19:14] <HEuiHEUIhEui> jagginess: special thank´s for the world´s best answer :)
[19:15] <theadmin> Phiscribe: Sure is
[19:15] <jrib> doug1: you could grep /var/lib/dpkg/info/ I guess
[19:15] <mbeierl> HEuiHEUIhEui, this is an Ubuntu support channel, not Windows or IRC.
[19:15] <BluesKaj> ChogyDan, thi might interest you : http://www.hecticgeek.com/2012/01/how-to-remove-pulseaudio-use-alsa-ubuntu-linux/
[19:15] <Orpheon> would anyone have an explanation to why everything including lightdm and pulseaudio don't work because of permission errors?
[19:15] <jrib> Orpheon: because of permission errors
[19:15] <doug1> jrib: Oh i see. didn't know that existed. Looks like uit has output of postinstall scripts. Handy. thanks
[19:16] <jagginess> Orpheon, you getting desktop freezes?
[19:16] <jrib> doug1: yeah.  It will only have it for packages you've installed though.  I'm assuming that's good enough for your question
[19:16] <Phiscribe> stuff doesnt work cause dev's like to make new cool things, not fix boring old bugs maybe?
[19:16] <Orpheon> jrib: do you happen to know a possible fix?
[19:16] <doug1> jrib: totally
[19:16] <jrib> Orpheon: I don't even know the problem
[19:16] <BluesKaj> Orpheon, were you using autoloogin previous to your lightdm crash ?
[19:16] <Phiscribe> and nobody is getting paid enuff
[19:16] <Orpheon> jagginess: no
[19:17] <Orpheon> BluesKaj: no
[19:17] <Orpheon> oh, and spftware center doesn't look capable of installing packages either
[19:17] <Orpheon> and no network connection of any kind, wired or not, can be made
[19:18] <Phiscribe> Orpheon if ever run a gui app with sudo instead of gksudo, well weird things can happen
[19:18] <jagginess> Orpheon, if you're *sure lightdm is a problem, and tried all avenues, there's also "gdm" as a login manager
[19:18] <jagginess> Orpheon, gdm will start and disable lightdm
[19:18] <jagginess> ,/(it disables the other, you can always enable lightdm later, with dpkg-reconfigure lightdm)
[19:18] <Orpheon> gdm; Unrecognized service
[19:19] <jagginess> apt-get install it
[19:19] <jagginess> ()
[19:19] <Orpheon> no internet on that pc
[19:19] <zanberdo> question: can one install 12.04 with full disk encryption?  That is, I would like to partition my disk with /boot, /, /home, and swap. I've encrypted the entire partition, used lvm to create the four listed parts but when grub2 attempts to write to the MBR I get the dreaded GRUB can not write to /dev/sda error.  Should I use the old-style of creating /boot as unencrypted?  I thought grub2 had support to decrypt a part then boot
[19:19] <zanberdo> .  Is that not the case?
[19:19] <jagginess> well then get internet
[19:19] <jagginess> a pc without internet is useless
[19:19] <BluesKaj> Orpheon, suggest you install either gdm or kdm for login , lightdm still has some bugs
[19:19] <Orpheon> jagginess: As I mentioned before, I can't get it to connect
[19:19] <Phiscribe> Orpheon check your /tmp permisions, if they are out of whack...well
[19:19] <Orpheon> BluesKaj: as a permanent solution I want lightdm
[19:20] <Orpheon> that tmp idea might be correct... let me check
[19:20] <BluesKaj> Orpheon, sometimes what you want isn't going to work for you , but it's your call
[19:20] <jagginess> why not help him fix his internet, that's more important..
[19:21] <Orpheon> Most folders in tmp have owner myself, with folder r&w, no file access, and nothing whatsoever for everything else
[19:21] <Orpheon> is that as it should be?
[19:21] <sazawal> I cannot configure my Thunderbird for gmail account. Any help?
[19:21] <BluesKaj> jagginess, it could be as Phiscribe suggested , a permissions proiblem
[19:22] <rtdos> i get this error message when using sudo: http://pastebin.com/tqT1ysPF
[19:22] <jagginess> well if he gets internet on that pc, first thing he should do is update any packages.
[19:22] <jagginess> ^
[19:22] <Orpheon> jagginess: I'm not going to get that
[19:22] <Orpheon> tried all forms of it already
[19:23] <buffalo960> I have a problem on my laptop, I have a core i5 and it doesn't seem to be dynamically clocking properly (stuck at 800mhz). Is there any way I can force it to full speed all the time?
[19:24] <Phiscribe> drwxrwxrwt for tmp
[19:24] <BluesKaj> rtdos, have been editing the sudoers file ?  parse error in /etc/sudoers near line 28
[19:24] <jagginess> buffalo960, maybe you should install the intel microcode pacakge if it's not installed
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> buffalo960, I use indicator-cpufreq to control.
[19:25]  * jagginess thinks speedstep as a keyword to search packages related
[19:27] <A[D]minS> !iphone
[19:28] <rtdos> i get this error message when using sudo: http://pastebin.com/tqT1ysPF
[19:28] <culture> Hello
[19:28] <buffalo960> jagginess, yay that seems to have worked. Thanks a lot :)
[19:29] <o0oScoRcHo0o> i have an ubuntu server that upon reboot asks for a disk check... i run the check and fix the errors.. but when i reboot again ... it asks again and constantly boots into readonly mode.  I cannot get this to work.  The fsck appears to fix the errors, because if i run it twice, the second attempt shows up clean... any ideas?
[19:30] <thebishop> hello ubuntuers
[19:31] <thebishop> i'm seeing an odd issue with sound.  running 12.04, kernel 3.2.0-30-generic.  audio works fine through speakers.  when i plug in headphones, pulse senses the jack and switches to headphone output, but i hear no sound.  system volume and rhythmbox volume are both maxed.
[19:33] <Orpheon> what does this mean?
[19:33] <Orpheon> WARNING: Failed to open CK session: GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit was not provided by any .service files
[19:34] <daemon> hey all I just installed a MTA (exim4) and it broke up the config into sections:
[19:34] <daemon> acl/ auth/ routers/ etc...
[19:34] <daemon> how do I tell it I just want one single config file
[19:34] <geekzero> hola
[19:34] <geekzero> ai alguien que hable español?
[19:35] <geekzero> HOOLAAAAAAAAA
[19:35] <alpre> o0oScoRcHo0o: post you fstab
[19:36] <thebishop> daemon, that looks like the normal behavior
[19:36] <thebishop> http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Spam-Filtering-for-MX/exim-configfile.html
[19:36] <Orpheon> what does this mean?
[19:36] <Orpheon> GDBus.Error:org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown: The name org.freedesktop.ConsoleKit was not provided by any .service files
[19:36] <o0oScoRcHo0o> alpre: there is nothing wrong with the FSTAB.. it hasn't changed.. I did now remove the fsck by cahnging the pass-num to 0... so it will boot in RW
[19:36] <alpre> thebishop: can you see the sound playing on the output in pavucontrol?
[19:37] <o0oScoRcHo0o> alpre: so basically i am cheating
[19:37] <daemon> thebishop, non of my other servers have it in that style
[19:37] <o0oScoRcHo0o> alpre: mind you .. i only changed the drive having this issue (unfortunately the root drive) over to not runa  check..
[19:37] <daemon> thebishop, kinda disorienbtating dealing with it
[19:37] <alpre> o0oScoRcHo0o: I had a brtfs root booting for a month, and suddenly it would do the same, then I read that one option was wrong for that fs
[19:37] <daemon> disorientating*
[19:38] <o0oScoRcHo0o> alpre: weird.. yeah.. i mean it boots fine if i just change that one flag..
[19:38] <alpre> sorry, no idea o0oScoRcHo0o
[19:40] <thebishop> alpre, yes.
[19:42] <alpre> thebishop: are you sure it is the headphone sink, does it switch sinks when you plug in the headphones? I'd look into module options for your hardware maybe, they can be set in .pulse/default.conf or something.
[19:46] <jagginess> alpre, you mean if the audio syncs with the video
[19:46] <jagginess> alpre, a small delay is fine as long as it's not too long
[19:47] <alpre>  jagginess no, just if it is the sink that is supposed to be playing.
[19:47] <ii00907> !list
[19:47] <Dresk|Laptop> Hello, I can't start X right now because I changed video cards - what's the procedure for Ubuntu to change the X video driver without having access to a GUI?
[19:48] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: try this: sudo dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[19:49] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: or maybe you want to remove the old video card driver
[19:50] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: sudo apt-get remove dkms     that might remove all the proprietary video card drivers
[19:50] <blackdevilz> salve
[19:51] <Dresk|Laptop> ChogyDan: Any risk of anything else it might remove?
[19:51] <thebishop> alpre, on the "Output Devices" tab, under "Built-in Audio Analog Stereo", when I plug/unplug, the "Port" field switches from "Speakers" to "Headphones" and vice-versa
[19:51] <Hexeon> Does anyone know about "Schulze method" for voting?
[19:51] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: yes, virtualbox drivers, or any other driver.     But if you describe the hardware, I might be able to give a more targeted command
[19:52] <Dresk|Laptop> ChogyDan: I'm going from an NVIDIA GTS 200, using (I believe) NVIDIA's proprietary installer (but I can check for dkms) to Intel Ivy Bridge onboard (Z77 chipset)
[19:52] <ChogyDan> Hexeon: try asking in offtopic
[19:52] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: oO   so you just removed the card?
[19:53] <Dresk|Laptop> ChogyDan: In the system I am working on right now, the card is plugged in but the BIOS was told to use onboard and that's where the HDMI cable is
[19:53] <ChogyDan> Dresk|Laptop: regardless, `dkms status`     if nvidia is the only thing listed, removing dkms should work
[19:54] <Dresk|Laptop> ChogyDan: Yes, it's the only thing listed
[19:54] <LibertyTrader> I have a 32 GB SSD and 500 GB HD In my laptop, what is the best way to install ubuntu?
[19:55] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: define "best"   and maybe folks can help further
[19:55] <BluesKaj> the nouveau driver should work with nividia card and doesn't require Dresk|Laptop
[19:55] <LibertyTrader> I want to use SSD to load my system and maybe some applications, but HDD for everything else
[19:56] <LibertyTrader> Probably just system loaded by SSD for now
[19:56] <alpre> thebishop: I'd guess a different jack is used than what you expect, you should be able to change the mapping in the module options then.
[19:56] <Dresk|Laptop> BluesKaj: I'm no longer using NVIDIA, I'm switching to onboard Ivy Bridge
[19:56] <BluesKaj> Dresk|Laptop, it doesn't reuire dkms
[19:56] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: than I guess just install to the SSD, and setup the HDD as /home
[19:56] <LibertyTrader> How do I do that?
[19:57] <Dresk|Laptop> BluesKaj: Well the first thing I noticed is mplayer performance is HORRIBLE, it seems to have no hardware scaling, it's running at like 1/4 the framerate
[19:57] <Dresk|Laptop> My next question was going to be what kernel is needed for Intel Ivy Bridge drivers
[19:57] <LibertyTrader> I anticipate I will have at least 50 GB of applications
[19:57] <LibertyTrader> so I don't know if that is a good setup
[19:57] <BluesKaj> Dresk|Laptop, what about vlc ?
[19:57] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: when it comes time to partition (during the installation process), ask to do, wait what?
[19:57] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: 50GB of apps?  what apps?  are these games?
[19:58] <LibertyTrader> yes games and development tools
[19:58] <LibertyTrader> like Quartus
[19:58] <BluesKaj> Dresk|Laptop, the kernel source driver should work
[19:58] <thebishop> alpre, i should've said audio works most of the time.  i've only seen this odd muted headphone thing once or twice before.  and now that you mention it, i plugged into the microphone jack.  still no audio, but both the input and output switched to 'line in' and 'headphones' respectively.  is that normal?  I wouldn't expect the output to change
[19:59] <drecute> i'm running netbeans on a latop with 8 cores 4gb and netbeans is still slow to a crawl on ubuntu
[20:00] <LibertyTrader> ChogyDan: do you see why I am concerned?
[20:00] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: well, I don't know.  Maybe maybe you could have all the app files mounted to the HDD?
[20:00] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: I do, but 50GB is a HUGE amount of apps
[20:00] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: unless its games, so... it's just unexpected
[20:01] <LibertyTrader> And my system is UEFI...
[20:01] <LibertyTrader> I'm in for a trat...
[20:01] <LibertyTrader> I bought a nice shiny ultrabook that used the SSD as a cache to 500 GB HD
[20:01] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: maybe dual boot, one for regular use, and one for all those games.
[20:01] <LibertyTrader> But linux doesn't support that
[20:03] <NEone> Trying to install the wine emulator to be able to run Windows programs. ... There's wine, wine 1.4, qt4wine, wine-config... OMG, so many packets! ...Which ones should I choose?
[20:03] <tfhlap> is there a way / a software that allows me to tell which device is using how much bandwidth of my wifi network for Ubuntu?
[20:04] <LibertyTrader> Is there a way I can just put the kernel and boot stuff on the SSD?
[20:04] <tzvi_> where can i download the mintmenu for ubuntu 12.04
[20:05] <tzvi_> ?
[20:05] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: maybe by mounting /boot to ssd, but I don't think that will garner you much performance benefit
[20:05] <tfhlap> is there a way / a software that allows me to tell which device is using how much bandwidth of my wifi network for Ubuntu?
[20:05] <NEone> tfhlap: I guess your linux box can't measure that. You've got to be looking in the wifi-router, there must be options and a monitor for QoS/bandwidth.
[20:05] <ChogyDan> LibertyTrader: in fact, the HDD might be faster for that...
[20:06] <luckyruby> getting Running /etc/init.d/networking restart is deprecated because it may not enable again some interfaces. What should I use then to restart after modifying that file?
[20:06] <guntbert> !repeat | tfhlap
[20:06] <tfhlap> @NEone ok thanks
[20:06] <ChogyDan> luckyruby: maybe sudo service networking restart, or something to that effect
[20:06] <tzvi_> where can i doenloaded mintmenu for ubuntu 12.04
[20:10] <kovu> hello
[20:11] <BluesKaj> luckyruby,  /etc/init.d/networking restart , still works . I just used that command 2 days and several reboots later my suystem still connects to internet just fine.
[20:12] <BluesKaj> 2 days ago
[20:13] <alpre> thebishop: no idea, try changing the module parameters in PA
[20:13] <alpre> thebishop: you can change the hardware config in pavucontrol too
[20:15] <thebishop> alpre, hmm, which hardware configs are you thinking of?  I've played around with all the ones i see.  is there some advanced configuration menu?
[20:15] <Pupuser402-1> hi
[20:16] <Pupuser402-1> maybe someone has a temptation to tell me does grub erasing mbr sector when it's written there?
[20:16] <alpre> thebishop: I meant those in the menu, other than that look at the module parameters
[20:16] <Pupuser402-1> i'd like to erase it and I thought that it could be easy way to do it
[20:16] <alpre> haven't tried microphone yet thebishop
[20:17] <alpre> luckyruby: try ifdown and ifup
[20:17] <alpre> luckyruby: I guess you modified interfaces
[20:18] <Pupuser402-1> hmm?
[20:19] <kontagious> hello, i cannot get the battery icon to appear in my ubuntu 12.04. I have tried "show battery status in the menu bar" in power settings but it doesnt seem to work. i have also tried reinstalling Indicator Applet Complete but it didn't fix it either.
[20:20] <alpre> tfhlap: you can use tcpdump for that if you know the ip addresses of the devices
[20:20] <WarOfTheNerd> Guys, how can I make dpkg skip --configure?
[20:20] <ubuntUser> yo
[20:20] <WarOfTheNerd> I have a badly-written package installed that ruins apt
[20:21] <ubuntUser> i tried to install ubuntu on a paritioned HDD , did the install but i get once i restart the laptop a No bootable device -- insert boot disk and press any key error
[20:21] <trism> kontagious: do you have indicator-power installed?
[20:21] <ubuntUser> any thoughts please !!!
[20:21] <ikonia> ubuntUser: grub was not installed
[20:21] <ikonia> ubuntUser: make sure grub is installed to the master boot record of the boot drive
[20:22] <ubuntUser> ok and how do i install the GRUB ?
[20:22] <BitWraith_> how do I control which renderer mesa uses?
[20:22] <ikonia> ubuntUser: the installer should do it for you, just pay attention where it puts it
[20:22] <kontagious> trism: "indicator-power is already the newest version"
[20:22] <trism> kontagious: if it is, check that: upower --enumerate; returns something, if indicator-power can't find a battery it will hide itself
[20:22] <zyphex> Anyone know a good opensource solution/combination of opensource tools for hotspot billing and captive portal?
[20:23] <kontagious> trism: the only device is line_power_AC
[20:23] <ubuntUser> well it's the second time ikonia i tried to install it, i created the partitions table with /, /home and swap
[20:23] <ubuntUser> do i need more ?
[20:23] <kontagious> trism: its good to note it shows when it's about to die, or plugged in
[20:23] <ikonia> ubuntUser: that should be fine
[20:23] <trism> kontagious: yeah then it is probably there but hidden
[20:24] <_Aviator__> Anyone know of a Ubuntu 12.04 system monitor applet that doesn't leak memory?
[20:24] <alpre> ubuntUser: you install grub to sda, that is the mbr of sda, not sda1 or some other partition
[20:24] <ubuntUser> ohhh
[20:24] <BitWraith_> I have the X server running, nd I believe it's using the nouveau driver now, but I'm not getting direct rendering... on Gentoo, I would normally use eselect mesa set to fix this. How's it done on Ubuntu?
[20:24] <ubuntUser> alpre thing is i have 2 hdd's on PC
[20:25] <ubuntUser> one is paritioned from 250 to a 211 and a 38
[20:25] <alpre> ubuntUser: then the installer should default to the drive set in bios to boot first, otherwise decide yourself and set it in bios too
[20:25] <ubuntUser> i am trying to install it in the 38GB partition
[20:25] <ikonia> ubuntUser: master boot record of the boot disk - install grub to it
[20:25] <ubuntUser> i did that ...but i get the same error
[20:25] <ikonia> ubuntUser: the partitions don't matter, just watch where grub is installed
[20:25] <ikonia> ubuntUser: you didn't - you can't have just re-installed in 2 minutes
[20:26] <ubuntUser> not now mate... today
[20:26] <ubuntUser> i did it two times
[20:26] <ikonia> ubuntUser: right, so re-install, and pay attention to where grub is installed
[20:26] <ubuntUser> and i tihnk i messed it up twice as it seems
[20:26] <alpre> ubuntUser: use the drive which boots first
[20:27] <ubuntUser> understood
[20:27] <ubuntUser> thank you !
[20:27] <kontagious> trism: after googling, i powered down, removed and inserted battery, and now it works. thanks for the idea(s)
[20:28] <kontagious> i would have never guessed it was hidden
[20:29] <utops> how to compile i686 on x64?
[20:29] <utops> +kernel
[20:29] <ikonia> utops: why are you compiling the kernel ?
[20:31] <ubuntUser> ok..so install it in /dev/sda and it should be OK /
[20:31] <ikonia> grub should auto install to /dev/sda (master boot record) unless you tell it not to
[20:31] <ubuntUser> great
[20:31] <ubuntUser> thanks !
[20:32] <utops> ikonia: im installing  gentoo i686 on free partion,using ubuntu.
[20:32] <ikonia> utops: so #gentoo is your channel
[20:32] <alpre> ubuntUser: np :)
[20:32] <ubuntUser> thanks guys , catch you later !
[20:32] <utops> Im almost done,only kernel need to be compiled on i686,but it won't
[20:32] <ikonia> utops: so #gentoo is your channel
[20:32] <utops> guess so.
[20:35] <Dresk|Laptop> I have no idea right now why this is happening, but Ubuntu is booting my drive with only one mount point, /, and it's 100% full, when there should be other mount points - what utilities should I use to investigate what's going on with the drive?
[20:36] <ikonia> Dresk|Laptop: a.) try to manually mount the partitions b.) look at the fstab c.) clean up your main partition
[20:36] <ubuntu8> ciao
[20:37] <ubuntu8> atutti:)
[20:37] <MonkeyDust> Dresk|Laptop  type sudo fdisk -l|pastebinit and paste the url here
[20:37] <ubuntu8> c'e qualche italiano?
[20:38] <MonkeyDust> !it
[20:38] <ubuntu8> sorry! tanks!
[20:39] <unknown420> cant find screem for 11.10???
[20:39] <Dresk|Laptop> MonkeyDust: I can't really do that because the entire drive is full
[20:40] <Dresk|Laptop> MonkeyDust: Is there a way to list all files above a certain filesize with ls or such?
[20:40] <ruif13> how can i downgrade pho 5.3.10 php 5.2
[20:40] <ruif13> ?
[20:42] <mbrigdan> Anyone know how I could remove every other page in a pdf under ubuntu?
[20:46] <zykotick9> Dresk|Laptop: running "sudo apt-get clean" will remove downloaded packages... might free some space for you
[20:46] <Dresk|Laptop> zykotick9: Thanks, let me see if it can even do that command
[20:47] <Dresk|Laptop> zykotick9: Unfortunately I can't do anything, it's 100% out of space
[20:47] <drecute> i'm running netbeans on a latop with 8 cores 4gb and netbeans is still slow to a crawl on ubuntu
[20:47] <zykotick9> Dresk|Laptop: you could try, "sudo -i" then retry above command without the sudo
[20:48] <extrasolar> netbeans 7.x?
[20:48] <drecute> extrasolar: yes
[20:49] <drecute> extrasolar: i also configured it to use opengl. I experienced worse performance
[20:49] <drecute> extrasolar: i gave it 1024m, no improvement as well
[20:49] <extrasolar> Do you have to use netbeans?
[20:49] <drecute> extrasolar: yes
[20:50] <drecute> extrasolar: eclipse is no better
[20:50] <extrasolar> interesting, what;s your full specs?
[20:50] <extrasolar> and laptop name/model
[20:50] <drecute> extrasolar: sony vaio F series
[20:50] <ssta> eclipse is slow always...that's the default speed.  Netbeans is generally faster though (unless you have a lot of modules enabled)
[20:51] <DrGrov> Hi, sitting on 10.04. Would like to check that I do not have SSH enabled on my install and check for attempted root access from the outside. I check the log in /var/log/messages, correct? I usually use grep ssh /var/log/messages
[20:51] <_cronus_> mbrigdan: take a look at pdftk. It has the ability to select odd and even pages with the cat command
[20:51] <drecute> nvidia GEFORCE with cuda, intel core i7
[20:51] <Dresk|Laptop> Something VERY weird is happening; after I got the space and rebooting, the other partitions mounted, but the main mount point is still 100% full
[20:51] <extrasolar> That's strange
[20:51] <drecute> 8 cores, 4GB, ubuntu 11.10
[20:52] <Dresk|Laptop> Now I have an "overflow" mount point
[20:52] <extrasolar> have you tried seeing what is being used in htop?
[20:52] <drecute> extrasolar: yes
[20:52] <drecute> extrasolar:  all 8 cores are currently in use
[20:52] <drecute> extrasolar:  java uses between 250 - 350MB of ram
[20:52] <mbrigdan> _cronus_, I was actually just looking at it! I'll see if their website explains how to select even/odd
[20:53] <zykotick9> Dresk|Laptop: mounting stuff won't affect the df of /.  what is taking up the space?  is it still being written to by something?
[20:54] <Dresk|Laptop> zykotick9: I'm not sure, I can't do any apt-get operations because it has no space to even do that
[20:54] <drecute> firefox uses up to 400 - 550mb
[20:54] <drecute> lots of tabs by the way
[20:54] <mbrigdan> _cronus_, Figured it out, thanks!
[20:55] <subcool> can someon help me setup magnet links
[20:55] <zykotick9> Dresk|Laptop: you need to figure out what is using the space (something you should already "know" as well).  how much space is apt using for it's cache ("du -sh /var/cache/apt/archives/" to find out)?
[20:55] <_cronus_> I think that you append even our odd to the range of the cat command. Unfortunately I am not in front of Ubuntu right now to test. I'll take a look at the manual and tell you more.
[20:56] <extrasolar> I'd try upgrading to ubuntu 12.xx
[20:56] <_cronus_> mbrigdan, good news.
[20:57] <extrasolar> subcool read the rules
[20:57] <DrGrov> Anyone who can explain how to check SSH server status on 10.04?
[20:57] <ikonia> check it's status ?
[20:57] <mbrigdan> _cronus_, FWIW, you give the file a handle, then add even or odd to the handle in the cat command (ex: pdftk A=Linear-Algebra.pdf cat Aodd output Linear-Algebra-fixed.pdf)
[20:57] <zykotick9> Dresk|Laptop: suggestion, "cd /" then "du -sh * 2>/dev/null" to get the sizes of all your root directories (might take a while)
[20:57] <subcool> extrasolar, which one are you referring to?
[20:58] <zykotick9> DrGrov: "ps aux | grep -i ssh" should tell you.  look for sshd.
[20:58] <jrib> DrGrov: initctl status ssh
[20:58] <zykotick9> DrGrov: "sudo /etc/init.d/openssh status" might also work
[20:59] <_cronus_> Drgrov: try ssh to the local machine or check if sshd is running with system monitor.
[20:59] <WXZ> is it possible to run a USB version of ubuntu through vbox?
[20:59]  * zykotick9 notes init.d is only applicable to 10.04 on ubuntu!
[20:59] <ikonia> WXZ: a usb version ?
[20:59] <extrasolar> WXZ YEs
[20:59] <WXZ> extrasolar: tutorial?
[20:59] <drecute> extrasolar: i dont think it matters
[20:59] <jrib> zykotick9: even on 10.04 it's the upstart job that gets started and the init.d is only there for use in chroot
[20:59] <subcool> extrasolar, ???
[21:00] <extrasolar> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VirtualBox/USB
[21:00] <zykotick9> jrib: you're right!  sorry, my mistake.  lucid did have upstart!
[21:00] <DrGrov> Apparently it is running, how do I turn it off from starting upon boot?
[21:00] <extrasolar> drecute sorry I can't help
[21:00] <snwh> Anyone running Ubuntu on an SSD? or have tips for optimizing Ubuntu for an SSD?
[21:00] <Dresk|Laptop> I found a ginormous 6.3GiB logfile from CUPS, I removed that, rebooting
[21:01] <DrGrov> Do I actually need a firewall while running if I disable SSHD?
[21:02] <zykotick9> DrGrov: if you're behind a home router, if you don't run services - you don't have "much" to worry about.  i don't run firewalls on each computer, just the network.
[21:03] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Yes, I am behind a home router. No, I do not run any services but would like to turn off that SSH daemon though since it probably got stuck running and starting when I boot up.
[21:03] <zykotick9> DrGrov: sorry man, i've forgotten how it worked (already demonstrated publicly above ;)
[21:04] <DrGrov> zykotick9: No worries.
[21:04] <DrGrov> So, how do I turn off SSHD on 10.04? I do not like it to be running upon boot.
[21:04] <DrGrov> The problem is that I can not even remember why I did it in the first place :D
[21:05] <zykotick9> DrGrov: if you install it, it's enabled by default (as it should be ;)
[21:05] <DrGrov> zykotick9: Ok, I leave it be then. No worries
[21:06] <jrib> DrGrov: "touch /etc/ssh/sshd_not_to_be_run" will stop it from running at boot (or if you don't want it at all anymore, just uninstall it)
[21:06] <_cronus_> Drgrov: the easiest is to remove the server I think
[21:07] <zykotick9> DrGrov: do you see an openssh file in /etc/init/ ?  (NOT init.d)  with sudo you can rename the script to foo.disabled and reboot and it "should" be gone.
[21:07] <ikonia> follow what jrib said
[21:07] <DrGrov> jrib: That did something at least when I did it as sudo :)
[21:07] <DrGrov> jrib: Thanks :)
[21:09] <DrGrov> Thanks for the help guys
[21:12] <zykotick9> jrib: looks like using sshd_not_to_be_run is "sshd_not_to_be_run is obsolete and only still
[21:12] <zykotick9> supported in order to be nice to people still relying on the old method"
[21:13] <zykotick9> that's from 2005
[21:16] <ubuntUser> :)
[21:16] <ubuntUser> ok back
[21:19] <ubuntUser> i've installed it, worked well but now i noticed that the laptop is running extremly slow
[21:19] <ubuntUser> lots of lag
[21:19] <subcool> can someon help me setup magnet links, i cant find a guide that refers to my setup
[21:19] <Axsuul> Anyone know why if i do... `ssh-add`, it asks me to enter in passphrase twice?
[21:19] <Axsuul> this is the ssh key agent
[21:21] <jrib> zykotick9: I agree it should go away, but there was no nice way to stop services from running on boot back in 10.04 other than what you suggested
[21:21] <zykotick9> jrib: i commented about that in #ubuntu-discuss a little while ago ;)
[21:21] <jrib> zykotick9: I didn't really know it was deprecated in some way, though it still exists in 2012 :P
[21:22] <zykotick9> jrib: i couldn't figure out a way to get ubottu to find debian bugs, but look into debian Bug#338366
[21:23] <zykotick9> jrib: removing the package is the best solution.
[21:24] <ubuntUser> damn it's kinda slow-ish !
[21:24] <atari314> Hello, does anyone know where lightdm set vsync on for the session it starts?
[21:25] <jrib> zykotick9: well, some users may want to not have it run at boot but still manage it manually with upstart.  I thought creation of that file allowed for that, but apparently it doesn't (so you end up with the same situation as renaming the .conf in /etc/init)
[21:25] <jrib> I guess in 10.04, you have to resort to editing the start on values in the scripts themselves
[21:25] <zykotick9> jrib: foo.disabled is almost the only way on ubuntu to manage services?!?
[21:26] <jrib> zykotick9: well later versions of upstart have override files you can use
[21:26] <trism> zykotick9: you can just comment out the 'start on' line in lucid
[21:27] <_cronus_> Jrib: I think update.rc is the official way of managing services under debian.
[21:27] <zykotick9> trism: true as well!  but more of a pita in my opinion, useing the number stuff makes little sence to me.
[21:28] <_cronus_> Jrib: i'm not sure though
[21:28] <trism> zykotick9: agreed
[21:28] <leojrfs> is anyone running ubuntu installed in a usb flash?
[21:29] <ubuntUser> any ideas why after a fresh install ubuntu runs very slow /
[21:29] <ozette> I'm trying to psftp, and mput some folders content. Yesterday it worked but now I get  "open for write: failure" 's for each child folders, these folders have full permission on host and client what am I doing wrong.
[21:29] <ikonia> ubuntUser: your video card is not configured correctly
[21:29] <ubuntUser> that might be it ikonia
[21:30] <ubuntUser> how should i do it right ?
[21:30] <ikonia> all depends on your video card
[21:30] <ubuntUser> i did installed a driver that was recommended in aditional drivers
[21:30] <ubuntUser> 9600m GT
[21:33] <ubuntUser> now i've removed the one that was supplied
[21:34] <id10terror> Anyone have a link for a tutorial on how to install eclipse from command line?
[21:35] <zykotick9> !info eclipse | id10terror
[21:35] <zykotick9> id10terror: "sudo apt-get install eclipse"
[21:35] <ubuntUser> there is driver found after searching for them and it's stated as [recommended]
[21:36] <id10terror> But I want Indigo not Galileo
[21:36] <zykotick9> ? good luck.
[21:36] <tamatar> id10terror, 3.7 is indigo I think
[21:36] <tamatar> do you menan Juno?
[21:36] <id10terror> Juno would be ok, just no galileo, which is the one in the ubuntu repos
[21:38] <tamatar> id10terror, i have juno installed in my home directory
[21:38] <tamatar> i downloaded it from the eclipse site and untarred it
[21:38] <tamatar> that's pretty much it
[21:38] <tamatar> of course you'll need to install a JDK
[21:39] <anternat> how do i fix mbr within windows/ boot repair didnt werk
[21:39] <Sokel> anternat: Fix mbr for what exactly? Windows or grub
[21:39] <teek_> hi, i'm using 12.04 with the side bar where your running programs are normally displayed. I minimized a program, and it just completely disappeared, but it's still running somewhere. how can I reopen/find it?
[21:40] <id10terror> tamatar, what is the command to install the latest JDK?
[21:40] <LibertyTrader>  I have a 32 gig ssd and 500 gig hdd in my laptop. Would it be possible to install my system to the SSD, mount home as the HDD, and use symbolic links to install large programs (steam) on the HDD?
[21:41] <Daekdroom> LibertyTrader, yes, yes, and I'm not sure.
[21:41] <teek_> alt+tab isn't working, also
[21:41] <cautiongamer> How bad is it that i just did "sudo chmod 777 -R /"
[21:41] <arno__> mam problem
[21:41] <zykotick9> LibertyTrader: moving program install directories is REALLY hard to do.  all the "os" should be able to fit on your 32GB ssd.  and just use your hd for /home.
[21:41] <tamatar> id10terror, unfortunately due to oracle's distribution policies, sunjdk is no longer available from the official repos. However, you can follow the instructions here: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[21:42] <tamatar> but i couldn't find a PPA for the latest eclipse
[21:42] <arno__> prosze o pomoc z systemem
[21:42] <LibertyTrader> zykotic9: So It will be very tough to have multiple games :/
[21:42] <teek_> okay could someone tell me how to at least kill the program if I can't find it?
[21:42] <tamatar> but since it's pretty much self contained, you can unzip it anywhere and it works
[21:42] <zykotick9> !tab > LibertyTrader
[21:42] <arno__> regreg
[21:43] <zykotick9> LibertyTrader: games can cause an issue with 32GB, my / was often much bigger then that.
[21:43] <id10terror> Damn you Larry Ellison!
[21:43] <arno__> ludzie pomożecie mi?
[21:43] <Troy^> LibertyTrader: have the released steam for linux yet?
[21:43] <tamatar> id10terror, my thoughts exactly ;). anyway, i'm off to bed, good luck!
[21:44] <OerHeks> !pl | arno__
[21:44] <LibertyTrader> zykotick9, this laptop came with a wierd cache raid
[21:44] <LibertyTrader> where the ssd would act like a cache for the 500 gb hard drive
[21:44] <ubuntu8> hello all, i have one problem, on this pc are installed Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex with Gnome 2.24.1, now when i try to update or install by Synaptic it's fail because i belive its all offline how to risolve this? I do not want to update to another Ubuntu because here everything is working, driver etc
[21:44] <id10terror> thanks tamatar
[21:44] <LibertyTrader> but it only seems supported in windoze
[21:44] <zykotick9> of course... ;)
[21:44] <arno__> jak ktoś nie zna języka angielskiego to co wtedy??
[21:45] <karamel4e__> Hello, is it a good idea to run a ddrescue to make an image of a hdd with 64 bad sector so I can recover some files?
[21:46] <Troy^> is there any decent games for ubuntu? ones that are actually interesting
[21:46] <Sebastien> how would one fix this
[21:46] <Sebastien> root@irczone:~# su - eggy
[21:46] <Sebastien> Cannot execute /bin/bash : No such file or directory
[21:47] <Troy^> also is there any newer fps games for linux
[21:47] <Sebastien> i have to use su -s /bin/bash -l user and i find it annoying.
[21:47] <ubuntu8> suppose to update ubuntu from here, retains all current settings drivers included?
[21:47] <Phiscribe> Troy^ short answer, no best stuff is commercial.  steam is on its way i hear tale
[21:48]  * zykotick9 points out Sebastien is root with a # prompt
[21:48] <nerdbromancer>  Troy^: steam beta should be out soon, valve is trying to put out l4d2 this year but I dont know about other games
[21:48] <Troy^> nerdbromancer: yea i have l4d2 in windows
[21:49] <anternat> Sokel i was dual booting but i had screwed my grub\ however my files remain still \ had to reinstall xp to another poartition
[21:49] <Sebastien> zykotick9 points out Sebastien is root with a # prompt
[21:49] <Sebastien> meaning?
[21:49] <ubuntUser> thanks for the tip ikonia
[21:50] <ubuntUser> i installed the recommended driver and it's a bit better now
[21:50] <ubuntUser> :)
[21:50] <ubuntu8> can someone help me..
[21:50] <Troy^> Amnesia game looks intense
[21:50] <nydel> hello ubuntu commons
[21:52] <Sebastien> zykotick9 ??
[21:52] <dr_willis> Sebastien:  su -    i belive means 'switchj to root'
[21:52] <zykotick9> dr_willis: the trailing - means "fake a login"
[21:53] <_cronus_> Sebastien: does "sudo -i -u eggy" work?
[21:53] <nydel> ubuntu8: i can try to help you
[21:53] <ubuntu8> on this pc are installed Ubuntu 8.10 Intrepid Ibex with Gnome 2.24.1,  when i try to update or install by Synaptic it's fail because i belive its all offline how to risolve this?
[21:53] <dr_willis> When - is used, it must be specified as
[21:53] <dr_willis>            the last su option
[21:53] <Sebastien> root@irczone:~# sudo -i -u eggy
[21:53] <Sebastien> sudo: shell: command not found
[21:53] <Sebastien> i don't use sudo
[21:53] <dr_willis> checking man su ;)
[21:53] <zykotick9> dr_willis: "trailing"
[21:53] <Sebastien> i log on root then i SU - user  when needed.
[21:53] <nydel> ubuntu8: you believe it's all offline -- what do you mean? are you offline?
[21:54] <dr_willis> su - username      works here.  su has weird syntax it seems. :)
[21:55] <OerHeks> ubuntu8 8.10 is EOL, no longer supported. please upgrade
[21:55] <zykotick9> dr_willis: ;)
[21:55] <_cronus_> Sebastien: what certain of Ubuntu are you using? Sudo should be installed by default.
[21:55] <ubuntu8> nydel no
[21:55] <OerHeks> !intrepid
[21:55] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  then you are on your own basically...
[21:55] <nydel> ubuntu8: are you on that system right now?
[21:56] <zykotick9> ubuntu still in brown ;)
[21:56] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  the old servers get moved to an archive server. so if you want to keep installing stuff. you need to change your sources.list
[21:56] <Sebastien> _cronus_ not sure
[21:56] <dr_willis> !eol
[21:56] <nydel> ubuntu8: you're technically on your own, we don't support that release. but i am happy to help you unofficially.
[21:56] <ubuntu8> if i upgrade loose my driver ?
[21:56] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  we have no idea..
[21:57] <dr_willis> most newer releases i find work better with any problem hardware i had in the past.
[21:57] <dr_willis> for a release that old.. a clean install may be a MUCH better idea
[21:57] <nydel> dr_willis: was there ubuntu one or any other backup type utility in 8.10?
[21:58] <dr_willis> nydel:  no idea.. that was quite some time ago
[21:58] <nydel> dr_willis: i think ubuntu8 will need to upgrade, we should help him to make that process as painless as possible.
[21:58] <Norrin> just ran apt-get install apache2
[21:58] <Norrin> why it is listening as root by default?
[21:58] <Norrin> # ps -ef|grep -i apache
[21:58] <Norrin> root      7457     1  0 21:57 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
[21:58] <Norrin> www-data  7459  7457  0 21:57 ?        00:00:00 /usr/sbin/apache2 -k start
[21:58] <FloodBot1> Norrin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:58] <ubuntu8> which version I have to upgrade?
[21:58] <dr_willis> most painless would be a clean install   to upgrade to  12.10 may be quite a challange
[21:58] <OerHeks> Ubuntu One has a client application that runs on Ubuntu 9.04 and later ...
[21:59] <nydel> dr_willis: okay, that sounds right to me. so we'll need him to back up everything he'll lose
[21:59] <dr_willis> You would have to upgrade to the  closest LTS then go LTS -> LTS to get to 12.04
[21:59] <dr_willis> and Hope it works. ;)
[21:59] <nydel> ubuntu8: what "driver" are you worried about losing?
[22:00] <ubuntu8> all :D i try on this pc to run an lastest ubuntu usb live
[22:00] <ubuntu8> but not run
[22:01] <ubuntu8> this version run very well
[22:01] <dr_willis> details would be more helpfull.
[22:01] <nydel> ubuntu8: it's extremely outdated. i think you will be pleasantly surprised by precise (12.04)'s automatic hardware support, don't you think, dr_willis ?
[22:02] <sliddjur> is the settings of /etc/login.defs loaded every time and for every user logging in?
[22:02] <ubuntu8> there is a way to update to this version so that I keep the current settings?
[22:03] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  yes.. and that updateing may take a few hours..
[22:03] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  and it may not work totally, or may have other issues
[22:03] <nydel> ubuntu8: i'm totally stabbing in the dark, but try sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install; sudo apt-get upgrade.
[22:03] <ubuntu8> sudo apt-get not work
[22:03] <dr_willis> and if the servers have been moved to the archive servers for that release. then you will need to 'fix' your sources.list first
[22:03] <_cronus_> Sebastien: you could try to edit /etc/passwd to make sure the login shell is properly set
[22:03] <dr_willis> which is why apt-get 'not works'
[22:04] <ubuntu8> becouse probably the server
[22:04] <ubuntu8> moving files
[22:04] <nydel> dr_willis: do you think it might be helpful if i upload my sources.list & ubuntu8 tries replacing his with mine?
[22:04] <nydel> dr_willis: or would that just be a fubar
[22:04] <ubuntu8> Err http://security.ubuntu.com intrepid-security/main Packages   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.92.190 80]
[22:04] <dr_willis> nydel:  if he were upgradeing, he has to upgrade to the next release and the next.. untill he gets to a LTS version. THEN go LTS to LTS
[22:05] <dr_willis> !eol
[22:05] <nydel> dr_willis: right right of course
[22:05] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  yes.. all those lines in sources.list need to be changed to point to the right a4rchive server
[22:05] <nydel> ubuntu8: does the machine run only ubuntu, or does it boot anything else such as windows
[22:05] <dr_willis> then you could upgrade/update, or perhaps you could get lucky and just try  the 'release upgrade' tool.
[22:06] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  in any case. i definatly would backup any imporntant data first.
[22:06] <Gycklarn> Quick question. can 'apt-get -y upgrade' make the computer reboot, if deemed necessary?
[22:06] <ubuntu8> i have dual boot with windows xp
[22:06] <dr_willis> Gycklarn:  not that ive ever noticed or seen
[22:06] <SolarisBoy> Gycklarn: afaik no - it should prompt or notify you to do though
[22:07] <SolarisBoy> IF an applied update requires that
[22:07] <nydel> Gycklarn: may i ask why you're doing that? just curious.
[22:07] <Gycklarn> cron
[22:07] <nydel> ubuntu8: did you use wubi?
[22:07] <ubuntu8> no
[22:07] <blackdevilz> io
[22:09] <tfittsy> can someone help me figure out what is wrong with an init.d script for managing nginx.  it seems like the only thing it does right is start the server.  it gives the wrong status and can't kill the service
[22:09] <WeThePeople> is it possible to hack inti ubuntu from windows
[22:09] <nydel> ubuntu8: if i were you, i would boot into windows & use wubi to make a new possibly temporary install of ubuntu LTS. you can then boot into it & see how it works, plus you can mount your old ubuntu partition & copy over needed files etc. or you could make a ubuntu cd & install on a new partition
[22:09] <ubuntu8> in the uptade manager i find Update to ubuntu 9.04
[22:09] <ubuntu8> but they are supported ?
[22:09] <nydel> ubuntu8: basically, you are going to have more trouble than anyone would hope for if you try to upgrade from so far away.
[22:09] <ubuntu8> Traduci da: italiano Digita il testo o l'indirizzo di un sito web oppure traduci un documento. Annulla tradotto automaticamente da Google italiano inglese spagnolo Alpha or has expired as this
[22:10] <ubuntu8> :)
[22:10] <nydel> ubuntu8: do you have enough hard disk free to create a new partition for a new install of ubuntu?
[22:10] <OerHeks> ubuntu8 see the links given, all info is there.
[22:11] <nydel> ubuntu8: you could start fresh then migrate your personal files & settings over. a lot of things are going to work differently with the newer ubuntu so you are best starting fresh than trying to upgrade.
[22:11] <nydel> does this assessment sparkle with all the girls?
[22:12]  * nydel hopes someone says 'sunshine'
[22:12] <ubuntu8> This version of this hardware is working and fast, I'd hate to use a new version with the live usb I have had many problems, the screen could not be seen for example
[22:13] <ubuntu8> probably keep this, but there is a way to install programs manually? for example Xchat , where i to donwload and install ?
[22:13] <nydel> ubuntu8: new ubuntu has a software center. or you can use apt-get or aptitude.
[22:14] <ubuntu8> most web sites give the comand to shell but not the link to dowload
[22:14] <dr_willis> You would be downloading several 100+mb of data.. more likely a few GB to do that ubuntu8 ..
[22:14] <dr_willis> Its best to just reinstall what you want.
[22:14] <dr_willis> and let the package manager download them as needed
[22:15] <Norrin> how do you set a password so that it cannot be used?
[22:15] <nydel> dr_willis is right. & ubuntu8: unless your hardware is particularly strange or outdated, i think you're going to be surprised at how easy the new ubuntu is to install & configure. find some joy in starting fresh, that's what i'd do.
[22:15] <Norrin> was it passwd \* <name> or something?
[22:16] <dr_willis> Norrin:  you mean disable an account?
[22:16] <daemongpl> add keyboard shortcut to disable laptop touchpad?
[22:16] <nydel> nologin account?
[22:16] <Norrin> dr_willis, not necessary.  just set a invalid password, so login can't be used with that account
[22:16] <duhnnie> hi everyone, i have a problem here with my Ubuntu installation on VirtualBox , when i try to start it it shows a message "the system is running in low graphics mode"
[22:16] <dr_willis> Norrin:  that is disabling the account...
[22:17] <Norrin> well i'd like if i could still su to the user from root
[22:17] <ubuntu8> nydel there is a difference between a live and installation hardware recognition?
[22:17] <dr_willis> since that dosent use the Users password.. that should still work i belive
[22:17] <Norrin> i notice that doesn't ask for a password
[22:17] <Norrin> right.  so that's what i'm trying to do
[22:17] <gandhi> hello guys i want to ask a question is richard stallman married ?
[22:17] <Norrin> passwd -l <user> isn't working
[22:17] <dr_willis> gandhi:  check his wikipedia entry
[22:17] <gandhi> nothing
[22:17] <nydel> ubuntu8: i don't understand the question -- do you, dr_willis?
[22:17] <Norrin> it'd thinking it syntax is bad for some reason
[22:18] <gandhi> can't find anything
[22:18] <W3R> Can someone confirm something for me?
[22:18] <Norrin> gandhi, why?
[22:18] <W3R> Is the section on KVM, DHCP Bridging accurate here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[22:18] <Norrin> dr_willis, so how to lock it?
[22:18] <miktor> Hello there. Anyone here that has experience with dwm?
[22:18] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  on a full install you can install extra drivers. so there is a diferance
[22:19] <Norrin> dr_willis, or diable, as you said
[22:19] <ubuntuunitysucks> isstallman a gay
[22:19] <nydel> Norrin: write a script to set the password to something random, then every time you want to use it, change the password using sudo?
[22:19] <Norrin> nydel, over kil?
[22:19] <ubuntuunitysucks> is richard stallman a gay guys ?
[22:19] <nydel> Norrin: fun?
[22:19] <nydel> ;)
[22:19] <dr_willis> Norrin:  http://askubuntu.com/search?q=disable+user+account  perhaps has exact answqer
[22:20] <ubuntuunitysucks> oioioioi
[22:20] <tuxhat> hey man my ubuntu is all working weird
[22:20] <tuxhat> can u help me i think its the unity shell
[22:20] <tuxhat> its all lagging and stuff
[22:20] <nydel> tuxhat: sudo apt-get install cinnamon
[22:20] <nydel> am i right!? woo!
[22:20] <tuxhat> oh i tried cinnamon same sshit
[22:20] <nydel> ubuntuunitysucks: can i get a hell yeah?
[22:20] <Norrin> nydel, masochist?
[22:20] <tuxhat> its all gnomeshell
[22:20] <dr_willis> nydel:  cinnamon is not in the default repos... and not supported here
[22:20] <tuxhat> is gnomeshell stil in beta testing ?
[22:21] <nydel> nevermind then! do we support gnome?
[22:21] <ash_> hi, i am having a problem with my sound :P whenever i do video call i cannt lisen to any music :O i got to switch to my sound seeting to do that and i cannot video call on skype and lisen to music together somebody help me plz
[22:21] <dr_willis> Unity uses gnome3
[22:21] <tuxhat> ubuntu does support gnome
[22:21] <ubuntu8> well thanks for the help nydel and dr_willis I will try to install tomorrow
[22:21] <tuxhat> no shit right
[22:21] <tuxhat> lulz
[22:21] <tuxhat> why u dont use awesome ?
[22:21] <ubuntu8> :)
[22:21] <tuxhat> or openbox ?
[22:21] <FloodBot1> tuxhat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:21] <W3R> ash_, check skype options for it turning down external audio.
[22:21] <Vincent0ne-> hmmmm
[22:21] <tfittsy> can anyone help me with a shell script for managing nginx as a service?
[22:21] <tuxhat> why unity looks so much like mac os x
[22:21] <nydel> ubuntu8: good luck - i think you should worry less, i think you will have a pleasant time installing the new ubuntu.
[22:21] <tuxhat> can u people be orgninal ?
[22:21] <W3R> tfittsy, install webmin, it will be much easier.
[22:22] <dr_willis> tuxhat:  it dosent.. and please troll elseehere
[22:22] <beastie> unity is lagging for me also tuxhat
[22:22] <tuxhat> what i am not trolling
[22:22] <OerHeks> !ot | tuxhat
[22:22] <tuxhat> this is realistic views
[22:22] <nydel> tuxhat: i can't tell you to do this, but use cinnamon. cinnamon has solved ALL my problems related to unity & gnome.
[22:22] <tuxhat> u people must know the truth
[22:22] <tuxhat> is it
[22:22] <OerHeks> tuxhat, stop it please.
[22:22] <tuxhat> people actually supports ubuntu lulz
[22:22] <nydel> tuxhat: we don't support cinnamon, but i do.
[22:22] <beastie> tuxhat try sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[22:22] <tuxhat> but my system works with make install
[22:22] <Norrin> dr_willis, found it.  thanks
[22:22] <tuxhat> what is apt-get ?
[22:23] <duhnnie> hi everyone, i have a problem here with my Ubuntu installation on VirtualBox , when i try to start it it shows a message "the system is running in low graphics mode"
[22:23] <tuxhat> i dont understand why i have a non linux kernel ?
[22:23] <Troy^> i am a XFCE fanhands down beandog
[22:23] <tuxhat> lulz
[22:23] <dr_willis> duhnnie:  install the guest addations perhaps?
[22:23] <beastie> tuxhat what was ur problem slow performance compiz makin fun of ur desktop
[22:23] <W3R> duhnnie, you need to change the VM options I guess.
[22:23] <beastie> tuxhat i think u should disale compiz
[22:23] <tuxhat> so ur saying in eed gibson computer to run ubuntu ?
[22:23] <beastie> haha
[22:24] <W3R> Take a look in the VM options for the gfx adaptor settings duhnnie
[22:24] <duhnnie> dr_willis: it's already installed, it was working fine, but an hour ago i have to reboot ubuntu and then i got that message
[22:24] <dr_willis> tuxhat:  do you have an actual support question or are you just rambling?
[22:24] <tuxhat> i thought ubuntu was server ready ?
[22:24] <beastie> tuxhat disable compiz
[22:24] <W3R> Ubuntu server is.
[22:24] <tuxhat> have u people heard of bsd ?
[22:24] <duhnnie> W3R: ok, i'll try
[22:24] <Sokel> tuxhat: BSD is terrible.
[22:24] <beastie> what is bsd
[22:24] <tuxhat> why is it terrible ?
[22:24] <dr_willis> !ot
[22:24] <hwkiller-netbook> yes, tuxhat. is it relevant to this channel?
[22:24] <tuxhat> please tell me this
[22:24] <W3R> tuxhat, this is not the correct channel
[22:25] <ubuntu-noob-101-> guys need help.. just installed ubuntu 12.04 update stuck at getting dconf-gsettings-backend.. its only 16 kB?
[22:25] <W3R> move elsewhere to discuss non support things.
[22:25] <tuxhat> u gonna banned me again
[22:25] <beastie> what is bsd tuxhat
[22:25] <ubuntu8> what is the fastest Desktop environment with ubuntu? like Enlightenment for example!
[22:25] <ozette> Can anyone tell me why I get "open for write: failure" errors on child folder upon psftp mput *
[22:25] <hwkiller-netbook> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:25] <tuxhat> remember the first time i made fun of faggotz in here
[22:25] <tuxhat> remember that
[22:25] <Sokel> tuxhat: First off, wrong channel to bring it up. Second off, I feel like having a working OS on the get go with.
[22:25] <beastie> waht is bsd tuxhat
[22:25] <tuxhat> cyberpunkarch
[22:25] <tuxhat> do u remember me
[22:25] <FloodBot1> tuxhat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:25] <tuxhat> i am tuxhat yes
[22:25] <hwkiller-netbook> beastie, not here. go to the offtopic channel
[22:25] <Sokel> beastie: Don't even bother.
[22:25] <beastie> how to go to offtopic am new to this irc
[22:25] <tuxhat> ubuntu suckz
[22:26] <hwkiller-netbook> join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:26] <hwkiller-netbook> if you're on xchat, just rightclick on that
[22:26] <tuxhat> no i want to tell u people that ubuntu sucks
[22:26] <ubuntu8> nydel ;P what is the fastest Desktop environment with ubuntu?
[22:26] <beastie> hwo to join this ubuntu offtopic am new to irc man
[22:26] <tuxhat> full of fagz in this community
[22:26] <Sokel> tuxhat: There are plenty of other distros :)
[22:26] <OerHeks> !ops | tuxhat
[22:26] <dr_willis> beastie:  /join #channelname
[22:26] <MonkeyDust> beastie  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:26] <tuxhat> i dont use linux
[22:26] <tuxhat> linux is bloated
[22:26] <Sokel> tuxhat: It's not. Please leave.
[22:26] <beastie> what is linux isnt ubuntu linux
[22:26] <dr_willis> !troll
[22:27] <tuxhat> why i can't come in here point real facts of ubuntu
[22:27] <deadmund> wow
[22:27] <MonkeyDust> Sokel  don't give it attention
[22:27] <randendavis> He's just a troll.
[22:27] <dr_willis> and a poor one at that.
[22:27] <tuxhat> u people must here the real facts so u can improve it ?
[22:27] <tuxhat> no ?
[22:27] <nothingspecial> poor people in #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:27] <tuxhat> ditch gnome 3
[22:27] <duhnnie> W3R: i have enabled the 3D aceleration and 128MB for video but it stills show the message
[22:27] <tuxhat> put awesome in ur system
[22:27] <WeThePeople> what does this look like to you guys >>> http://imgh.us/ip.jpg
[22:27] <Sokel> tuxhat: You're not one of them brazilians are you
[22:27] <beastie> tuxhat ubuntu is lsow to boot what to do
[22:27] <ubuntu-noob-101-> guys need help.. just installed ubuntu 12.04 update stuck at getting dconf-gsettings-backend.. its only 16 kB?
[22:27] <tuxhat> no i am canadian we use unix not linux wannabe unix
[22:27] <alpre> duhnnie: when does it show that?
[22:27] <ozette> Can anyone tell me why I get "open for write: failure" errors on child folder upon psftp mput *
[22:28] <duhnnie> when i start ubuntu
[22:28] <W3R> Strange, duhnnie try installing ubuntu vm extensions.
[22:28] <tuxhat> u people every though porting DTrace in ur kernel ?
[22:28] <duhnnie> alpre: when i start ubuntu
[22:28] <weebly> then go to #unix
[22:28] <alpre> duhnnie: that is normal
[22:28] <tuxhat> why
[22:28] <Pricey> Hey tuxhat, can I help? :)
[22:28] <tuxhat> i want to be in here
[22:28] <tuxhat> is that wrong
[22:28] <tuxhat> i am not allowed to be here ?
[22:28] <beastie> why not give freedom to tuxhat let him talk
[22:28] <duhnnie> alpre: no, it was working fine, today early end yesterday
[22:28] <beastie> share his knowledge
[22:28] <W3R> Use the following command to ignore tuxhat /ignore tuxhat!*@*
[22:28] <tuxhat> thanks beastie u see bsd on my side
[22:28] <dr_willis> beastie:  because this is a support channel.
[22:28] <Pricey> tuxhat: This is for Ubuntu support. It's very busy so perhaps #ubuntu-offtopic for other talk? :-)
[22:29] <beastie> he is not abusing
[22:29] <hwkiller-netbook> oh lord, tuxhat and beastie are working together (beastie is the bsd mascot, iirc)
[22:29] <tuxhat> oh this is ubuntu i tell u some support
[22:29] <kostkon> beastie, this is a support channel not a place to troll
[22:29] <dr_willis> beastie:  yes he is.
[22:29] <hwkiller-netbook> !ops
[22:29] <tuxhat> it sucks
[22:29] <tuxhat> bloated
[22:29] <tuxhat> crap
[22:29] <FloodBot1> tuxhat: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:29] <alpre> duhnnie: at boot it has low graphics, that's why, in desktop it is not a problem
[22:29] <tuxhat> unity shell is stupid
[22:29] <dr_willis> so are trolls..
[22:29] <Sokel> !ops
[22:29] <Pricey> Sokel: hwkiller-netbook, I'm here :-)
[22:29] <Sokel> Word
[22:29] <Pricey> Anyway, movin gon!
[22:29] <beastie> why is ubuntu gnome coming out in oct if canonical has os much faith uin unity
[22:29] <duhnnie> alpre: wha can i do to solve this?
[22:30] <ubuntu-noob-101-> help anyone?
[22:30] <ikonia> beastie: because it's not an official release.
[22:30] <ubuntu-noob-101-> im stuck at 17%
[22:30] <Sokel> ubuntu-noob-101-: !help
[22:30] <Pricey> beastie: THere's also kubuntu, xubuntu etc. Canonical aren't paying for it.
[22:30] <ikonia> beastie: someone has just decided to do it
[22:30] <alpre> duhnnie: nothing to solve
[22:30] <tuxhat> look at htes people going nuts
[22:30] <tuxhat> lulz
[22:30] <ubuntu-noob-101-> !help
[22:30] <duhnnie> but i can't start the graphic mode
[22:30] <beastie> tuxhat i aprreciate ur views respect\
[22:30] <duhnnie> alpre: i can't start the graphic mode
[22:30] <ubuntu-noob-101-> !help guys need help.. just installed ubuntu 12.04 update stuck at getting dconf-gsettings-backend.. its only 16 kB?
[22:30] <alpre> duhnnie: but try in #vbox if you want
[22:30] <W3R> Sorry I missed the all command
[22:30] <beastie> people should be open even torvalds agrees linux kernel is getting bloated
[22:30] <kostkon> beastie, gnobuntu is a community project like xubuntu kubuntu etc are
[22:31] <W3R>  /ignore tuxhat!*@* all
[22:31] <alpre> duhnnie: so you don't have a desktop ?
[22:31] <ozette> Can anyone tell me why I get "open for write: failure" errors on child folder upon psftp mput *
[22:31] <duhnnie> alpre: i'm with a desktop, not a laptop
[22:31] <W3R> Is the section on KVM, DHCP Bridging accurate here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[22:32] <duhnnie> alpre: is that what you mean?
[22:32] <alpre> duhnnie: I mean the desktop login doesn't work? with mouse?
[22:32] <duhnnie> alpre: exactly
[22:32] <alpre> duhnnie: OH
[22:33] <duhnnie> alpre: it only shows a X as the mouse pointer
[22:33] <alpre> duhnnie: is this ubuntu 12 you have?
[22:33] <duhnnie> alpre: and 4 options
[22:33] <beastie> FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU FUCK UBUNTU
[22:33] <duhnnie> alpre: i have 12.04
[22:33] <ubuntu8> what is the FASTEST (not the BETTER) Desktop environment for ubuntu??
[22:33] <W3R> Fastest is probably openbox.
[22:33] <kostkon> that escalated quickly...
[22:34] <ubuntu-noob-101-> guys need help.. just installed ubuntu 12.04 update stuck at getting dconf-gsettings-backend.. its only 16 kB?
[22:34] <ubuntu8> tanx w3r
[22:34] <alpre> duhnnie: did you install guest additions somehow?
[22:34] <ubuntu8> W3R openbox vs Enlightenment?
[22:35] <W3R> En is more shiny
[22:35] <W3R> thats about it
[22:35] <dr_willis> ubuntu8:  radically differnt apps/desktops/wms
[22:35] <duhnnie> alpre: i've installed guest additions yeasterday, and it was working fine,
[22:35] <W3R> Should be same kind of fast.
[22:35] <W3R> I prefer openbox.
[22:35] <hwkiller-netbook> ubuntu8, that's hard to gauge really. openbox is quick. tiling wm's are very quick. xfce is quick too
[22:35] <W3R> xfce is shinier
[22:35] <W3R> a lot easier to use for new people.
[22:35] <W3R> *correction
[22:35] <alpre> duhnnie: you mean you used the menu on your host system to do it? Did you try to reinstall them, just run the installer again from terminal.
[22:35] <hwkiller-netbook> xfce is the quickest of the fully featured DE's
[22:36] <W3R> That is if you install xubuntu
[22:36] <hwkiller-netbook> well, enlightenment is quick too, but it's still buggy
[22:36] <W3R> indeed.
[22:36] <dr_willis> lubuntu is very nice. perhaps missing some features people may want. but still useable
[22:36] <alpre> duhnnie: other than that I am really not sure what to do
[22:36] <duhnnie> alpre: i've used the VBOX ISO file,
[22:37] <hwkiller-netbook> does lxde use gtk3?
[22:37] <duhnnie> alpre: i'll try reinstall from terminal, can you guide me please?
[22:37] <alpre> duhnnie: yes, maybe try using it again
[22:37] <alpre> duhnnie: just ask
[22:38] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, it can be private? there are so much messages here
[22:38] <ubuntu8> I used bodhi linux liveusb, and very nice and fast
[22:38] <alpre> duhnnie: better ask here, more people who know stuff :) it is noisy sometimes
[22:38] <ubuntu8> ubuntu and enlightenment like bodhi ?
[22:38] <duhnnie> alpre:
[22:38] <ubuntu-noob-101-> UBUNTU SUCK!
[22:39] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, i have the ISO mounted on ubuntu
[22:39] <ubuntu-noob-101-> everyone READ that? it suck!
[22:39] <Kentos> all i saw was noob
[22:39] <aaas> ENGLISH BAD
[22:39] <Kentos> =P
[22:39] <ubuntu-noob-101-> what ever
[22:39] <ubuntu-noob-101-> it suck!
[22:39] <anubis_> lol
[22:39] <ubuntu-noob-101-> :p
[22:39] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, i logged in from terminal
[22:39] <alpre> duhnnie: cd into /media/cdrom0/ and run 'sh bla-installer-linux.sh
[22:40] <duhnnie> alpre: now, how can I access the image from terminal?
[22:40] <duhnnie> ok
[22:40] <alpre> duhnnie: sorry run sudo sh of course
[22:40] <ubuntu-noob-101-> just kidding.. help me please?
[22:40] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, thanks
[22:41] <ChogyDan> how do I turn pidgin off?
[22:41] <dr_willis> sudo sh  - is not advised... sudo -s or sudo -i   is perfered
[22:41] <W3R> Turn pidgin off?
[22:41] <ubuntu-noob-101-> ChogyDan: Uninstall Ubuntu
[22:41] <W3R> Open the menu, exit.
[22:41] <Kentos> whats the basic hardware list for making a decent low-mid traffick website. Would one server be enough(without media streaming or down/uploads) ?
[22:42] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Ctrl+Alt+F1. > sudo reboot
[22:42] <Fuchs> ubuntu-noob-101-: please don't do that in here, thanks.
[22:42] <funky1> ChogyDan: open terminal and "killall pidgin"
[22:42] <W3R> Hardware is rarely the issue Kentos
[22:42] <ChogyDan> ive been right clicking in the unity menu, and clicking quit, it keeps logging me back in
[22:42] <W3R> Network is.
[22:42] <duhnnie> alpre: i'm trying access /media/VBOXADDITIONS_XXXXX but it shows mw "Permiso Denegado" (Spanish Version), i think it means "Access denied"
[22:42] <Kentos> network speed?
[22:42] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Fuchs: why is it ubuntu update stuck at 16 kB of file?
[22:42] <W3R> How fast your network connection is Kentos
[22:43] <Fuchs> ubuntu-noob-101-: hard to say, maybe the remoted disconnected or something else happened, have you checked the log files?
[22:43] <Kentos> 30/4 currently
[22:43] <W3R> That will likely be saturated far before the server is.
[22:43] <Kentos> down/up
[22:43] <zeeeero> sup peoples.
[22:43] <W3R> A cheap celeron would be more than sufficient.
[22:43] <alpre> duhnnie: what command did you use to access?
[22:43] <W3R> A routers could probably manage Kentos
[22:43] <ChogyDan> I has no close option in pidgin!
[22:43] <W3R> router*
[22:43] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Fuchs: yes... it says it was moved to something.. it is actually dconf-gsettings-backend
[22:43] <funky1> ChogyDan: open terminal and "killall pidgin"
[22:43] <W3R> Yup that will work
[22:44] <dr_willis> ChogyDan:  why are you needing to close pidgin?
[22:44] <Phiscribe> ubuntu-noob-101- out of disk space?open dialoag behind the one your are looking at waiting on input? another program open trying to do updates?
[22:44] <ChogyDan> funky1: I would like the GUI method
[22:44] <ubuntu-noob-101-> space? its only 16kB
[22:44] <Kentos> interesting, it won't run into many problems say with proccessing the read files or anything? Im using a really old computer
[22:44] <duhnnie> alpre: i've used "cd /media" then "cd VBOXADDITIONS_4.1.6_74713"
[22:44] <funky1> ChogyDan: what happens when you right click icon and use "quit"?
[22:44] <Phiscribe> ubuntu-noob-101- just guessing. what about open dialog waiting on input? alt tab around
[22:45] <Kentos> its got a dual core Xeon in it, which to me sounds good for what i paid for the whole thing
[22:45] <alpre> duhnnie: does 'ls /media/cdrom0/' show something?
[22:45] <ChogyDan> dr_willis: no other reason than I want to.  The problem is that it keeps logging back on.  I think it is restarting based on my net connection, which is flacky
[22:45] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: I am not following u..
[22:45] <ChogyDan> funky1: ^
[22:45] <W3R> ChogyDan, my pidgin has the quit option under buddies
[22:45] <alpre> duhnnie: there should be an installer .sh file for linux in there
[22:45] <funky1> ChogyDan: what does that mean?
[22:45] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: Fresh install Ubuntu 12.04, Update, and im stuck only on this dconf-gsettings-backend
[22:46] <duhnnie> alpre:  it shows: "No existe el archivo o el direcotrio" = "no such file or direcotry"
[22:46] <funky1> ChogyDan: what vs of pidgin?
[22:46] <alpre> duhnnie: then you didn't mount it in /media/cdrom0/
[22:46] <zeeeero> having some issues here setting permissions of a home ubuntu core server even as owner of all files withen the target dir tree. can anyone one maybe lend a hand.
[22:46] <alch> hi, can someone help me, i was using a ubuntu live usb for some lab stuff, but it has stopped booting up, it locks on "[ somenumber] Btrfs loaded"
[22:46] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Fuchs: any idea?
[22:46] <alpre> duhnnie: do 'sudo mount /media/cdrom'
[22:46] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: any idea?
[22:47] <ChogyDan> funky1: omg, 12.04, but I think this is an issue with unity
[22:47] <duhnnie> alpre: i've just used the virtual box menu to mount the iso
[22:47] <dr_willis> ChogyDan:  i just clicked the close button.. and it closed.....
[22:47] <funky1> do you have the pidgin icon in the taskbar?
[22:47] <funky1> i have also piding 12.04
[22:47] <alpre> duhnnie: that only put the cd into the virtual drive, you need to mount manually now.
[22:47] <dr_willis> not any more ... no icon
[22:47] <funky1> i mean pidgin in 12.04
[22:48] <funky1> when i right click the icon, i can just select quit
[22:48] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, what command i need to run to mount it?
[22:48] <alpre> duhnnie: do 'sudo mount /media/cdrom'
[22:48] <ubuntu-noob-101-> how do we remove dconf-gsettings-backend from update pool?
[22:49] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Get:6 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main dconf-gsettings-backend amd64 0.12.0-0ubuntu1.1 [16.1 kB] 0% [6 dconf-gsettings-backend 3,845 B/16.1 kB 24%]
[22:50] <ubuntu-noob-101-> this is such a bad experience trying out ubuntu..
[22:50] <Phiscribe> ubuntu-noob-101- what im asking you to check is if a window is up, that is behind another, that is sitting there waiting on your input to continue the update.
[22:50] <duhnnie> alpre: it fails, it shows: "no se puede encontrar /media/cdrom en etc/fstab o etc/mtab"
[22:50] <nca_> hi all, quick question. I have a dual-port e1000 card in my desktop. Is there a straight-forward way to bond the interfaces through Network Manager? Googling just results in server configs (which just give issues with NM still running)
[22:50] <duhnnie> alpre: it fails, it shows: "no se puede encontrar /media/cdrom en etc/fstab o etc/mtab" = "it can't be found ..."
[22:51] <Kentos> im a little dissapointed by my service around here for internet. For a website its mostly upload if im not mistaken, and the highest package i can get is 5Mbit up speed.
[22:51] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: Yes its waiting for input "cursor blink" u mean?
[22:51] <alpre> duhnnie: try 'sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom'
[22:51] <ubuntu-noob-101-> i did was sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[22:52] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: and im stuck on that dconf....
[22:52] <W3R> Well Kentos how many people are you expecting?
[22:52] <Phiscribe> ubuntu-noob-101- try dragging the window to the left or right or up or down and see if ANOTHER window is behind it waiting on you to answer a config question
[22:52] <Phiscribe> if its not that, i dunno
[22:53] <duhnnie> alpre: it shows "el punto de montaje  /media/cdrom no existe" = "doesn't exist"
[22:53] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: Nope nothing..
[22:53] <alpre> duhnnie: ok, weird, the what is in /media? ls /media
[22:53] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: Its just this >> Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates/main dconf-gsettings-backend amd64 0.12.0-0ubuntu1.1 [16.1 kB] 0% [1 dconf-gsettings-backend 3,845 B/16.1 kB 24%]
[22:53] <skrocco> Hello all
[22:54] <duhnnie> ls /media
[22:54] <Kentos> could someone give me some info on the differences here in the US on what ISPs call a bussiness internet connection and a residential?
[22:54] <alpre> duhnnie: 'sudo mkdir /media/cdrom' if it doesn't exist, then try mounting sr0 again
[22:54] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[22:54] <duhnnie> alpre: in /media is VBOXADDITIONS_4.1.6_74713
[22:55] <zeeeero> any ideas
[22:55] <W3R> Kentos, you are better asking the businesses about that than here.
[22:55] <Kentos> yeah, im just wondering if theres any real difference
[22:55] <W3R> Business connections tend to be higher through put
[22:55] <W3R> i.e. faster
[22:55] <W3R> with no bandwidth limit
[22:55] <ubuntu-noob-101-> SO?
[22:55] <W3R> equal down and upload speed.
[22:55] <alpre> duhnnie: just try what I wrote then
[22:56] <Kentos> yeah, i was looking at the DSL companies, but...its the exact same speeds as their residential connections
[22:56] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: is there any way i can proceed update?
[22:56] <Phiscribe> if its stuck its stuck
[22:56] <duhnnie> alpre: i tried, i tried with both: VBOXADDITIONS... and cdrom and cdrom0
[22:56] <Kentos> bandwidth caps are something i would like the option of getting rid of lol
[22:57] <duhnnie> alpre: i'll have to reinstall ubuntu
[22:57] <alpre> duhnnie: 'sudo mkdir /media/cdrom' if it doesn't exist
[22:57] <alch> hey how i can get to the prompt in a live install? it goes right for unity(which seems to not work right now)
[22:57] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Ok, where do i change plist ?
[22:57] <duhnnie> alpre: dorectory created
[22:58] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[22:58] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: this file is actually moved to: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/
[22:58] <alpre> duhnnie: try 'sudo mount /dev/sr0 /media/cdrom', you can create another directory and use that too instead
[22:58] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Phiscribe: where do i change this plists to correct this ?
[22:59] <ubuntu-noob-101-> anyone?
[22:59] <Kentos> i suppose the service here isnt great for a server application, best upload speeds are the same residentially and for bussiness at a max of 5Mbit... kinda strange with down speeds are offered up to 100Mbit
[22:59] <ubuntu-noob-101-> where do i change this plists to correct this ?
[22:59] <duhnnie> alpre: mount as read only
[22:59] <duhnnie> alpre: mounted as read only (i guess)
[23:00] <alpre> duhnnie: ok, then cd /media/cdrom
[23:00] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, i'm inside cdrom
[23:01] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:01] <alpre> duhnnie: OK look how the installers inside are named
[23:02] <alpre> duhnnie: there should be a file called ...Linuxinstaller.sh not sure exactly
[23:02] <duhnnie> alpre: the "ls" command shows some elements like runasroot.sh, VBoxLinuxAdditions.run autorun.sh and some .exe ans a .pkg
[23:03] <ubuntu-noob-101-> THIS IS SUCK..
[23:03] <duhnnie> alpre: also shows 2 dirs: 32bit and 64bit
[23:03] <dr_willis> ubuntu-noob-101-:  yes  you do indeed.
[23:03] <alpre> duhnnie: VBoxLinuxAdditions.run it is. I did sudo sh 'VBoxLinuxAdditions.run'. Here it was mentioned that instead you should use sudo -i or sudo -s, but I don't know how that works
[23:04] <ubuntu-noob-101-> dr_willis: ya right.. you do as well
[23:04] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, i'll try
[23:04] <ubuntu-noob-101-> username states that i am a noob so?
[23:05] <ubuntu-noob-101-> =[
[23:05] <ubuntu-noob-101-> =)
[23:05] <ubuntu-noob-101-> =P
[23:05] <ikonia> stop that
[23:05] <ubuntu-noob-101-> ikonia: ok
[23:05] <ikonia> thank you
[23:05] <dr_willis> being annoying in the channel tends to get you ignored. restate the support question in a clear concise way.
[23:05] <delinquentme> How do I search recursively through my file system to file a file called "mysqld.sock"
[23:05] <delinquentme> ?
[23:05] <ikonia> delinquentme: it's in /tmp
[23:06] <ikonia> however find / -name mysqld.sock -print would work
[23:06] <ubuntu-noob-101-> dr_willis: its been almost.. but nothing seems to float
[23:06] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  the locate command, is very handy for finding files. but a .sock file is a socket file. whya re you needing it?
[23:06] <delinquentme> ikonia, no such luck
[23:06] <dr_willis> so much for clear and concise.
[23:06] <ikonia> I'm guessing an application is complainin it can't connect to mysql
[23:06] <ikonia> the socket file is missing because mysql isn't running
[23:06] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:06] <ikonia> (normally)
[23:06] <ubuntu-noob-101-> does anyone here from ubuntu support.. PLEASE update sources path..
[23:07] <funky1> delinquentme: go to / and run "sudo find . | egrep mysqld.sock"
[23:07] <delinquentme> ikonia, so " sudo start mysql " returns mysql start/running, process 9839
[23:07] <alch> i think my live usb tha i need for some lab work has been corrupted after forced shutdown, anything i can do to save it?
[23:07] <ikonia> delinquentme: can you connect with mysql client ?
[23:07] <delinquentme> nope
[23:07] <wilee-nilee> alch, this usb have a persistance?
[23:07] <ikonia> delinquentme: what's the error ?
[23:07] <dr_willis> alch:  you could try to fsck its casper-rw file.. be best to  copy that file somewhere else, then try fscking it. then mounting it.
[23:07] <alch> yep
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, frigg, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <Marvin827> Marvin827, you are just one person too many.
[23:08] <ubuntu-noob-101-> damn this.. :D
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, ubuntu-noob-101-, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <duhnnie> alpre: i've discovered something
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, duhnnie, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <delinquentme> what the shit.
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, delinquentme, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <delinquentme> now it connects
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, delinquentme, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <W3R> marvin please go elsewhere/
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, W3R, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <ikonia> delinquentme: please drop the language
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, ikonia, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Marvin827: no worries.. its me who is depressed not u
[23:08] <FloodBot1> Marvin827: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, ubuntu-noob-101-, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <Marvin827> I think you ought to know, FloodBot1, that I'm feeling very depressed.
[23:08] <ubuntu-noob-101-> Marvin827: no worries.. its me who is depressed not u
[23:09] <delinquentme> OK. sooo I dont even know what I did.
[23:09] <ikonia> delinquentme: probably started mysql
[23:09] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:09] <delinquentme> idk
[23:09] <duhnnie> alpre: maybe thats the original problem: i don't have enough space on my virtual disk
[23:09] <delinquentme> this is the worst kind of solution lol
[23:09] <delinquentme> because I learned nada
[23:09] <delinquentme> ikonia, how do you personally check the status of mysql being on or off?
[23:09] <alpre> duhnnie: maybe, the xcursor was not normal either
[23:09] <ikonia> delinquentme: ps -ef | grep mysqld
[23:09] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  the service command is handy for that
[23:10] <wilee-nilee> alch, I would answer the error question, and realise that a persistent file fills up and is difficult to clean, and will stop it from running when filled up.
[23:10] <delinquentme> sudo netstat -tap | grep mysql ... ps aux | grep mysql ... service mysql status
[23:10] <duhnnie> alpre: i remember, this morning ubuntu notified me about it
[23:10] <delinquentme> I've aquired a few today
[23:10] <ikonia> delinquentme: the service command as dr_willis said is valid, but it reads a pid file which doesn't always confirm mysqld is running
[23:10] <alpre> duhnnie: when you install ubuntu, don't install the guest addiditions from the menu, you usually don't need it and ubuntu has them built in, just a bit older
[23:10] <alch> well i dint changed anything in the last boot
[23:11] <duhnnie> alpre: ok, thanks
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> !who > alch
[23:11] <alpre> duhnnie: they are in ubuntu menu, system settings third party drivers or something, no need for the iso. np
[23:11] <duhnnie> alpre: well i'll try to resolve this by myself, i think that the problem is about disk space
[23:11] <alch> ubottu: ic sorrry
[23:11] <alpre> duhnnie: yes, could work
[23:12] <alpre> gl
[23:12] <W3R> Does anyone know if the DHCP section in KVM is accurate: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KVM/Networking
[23:12] <W3R> For bridged connections.
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> alch, I'm not saying the persistent is filed, but ut gets filled with error messages and just general use scripts as well as ading and removing apps and stuff.
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> s/it/filled/adding
[23:13] <alch> wilee-nilee: ic
[23:14] <CiscoNinja> hello folks
[23:14] <delinquentme> sudo find . | egrep mysqld.sock    << this finds no files .. however mysql is running
[23:14] <delinquentme> Le GRRRR
[23:14] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:15] <ikonia> delinquentme: look in my.cnf to see where your socket file hsould be
[23:15] <ikonia> delinquentme: /tmp /var/lib/mysql for example
[23:17] <ubuntu-noob-101-> If you want to get things done, do it your self.. thanks anyway
[23:18] <CiscoNinja> the wife likes to watch soap opera like from youtube and other websites. she is bugging me to stream it to our bedroom TV. my options are ROCKU box and xbox360 . any luck for me or should i stop being lazy and hook up vga to the tv each time she want to watch 'em?
[23:19] <Kentos> do you not have multiple connections for your streaming device?
[23:20] <Kentos> like multiple monitor type of deal
[23:20] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:20] <delinquentme> /var/lib/mysql/mysql.sock ikonia
[23:20] <delinquentme> OHHH
[23:20] <CiscoNinja> Kentos, am not sure i understand
[23:20] <delinquentme> grep didn't have search access to that dir
[23:21] <Kentos> where are you streaming from currently?
[23:21] <Kentos> what do you connect with the VGA to the TV
[23:21] <CiscoNinja> Kentos, i don't want to connect physically to the tv
[23:22] <pragmaticenigma> Anybody have a good resource for configuring a Nvidia GeForce 6200 card? When ever I am in X, the system hangs and the screen often draws a corrupted image
[23:22] <Kentos> ok, you have a wireless connection from your tv or something? there will have to be some physical connection to it for something, unless its a smart TV with youtube apps and webbrowseing
[23:23] <CiscoNinja> Kentos, xbox360 -> tv "netflix" or Rocku ->tv "netflix+ other channels"
[23:23] <zeeeero> for free or with a budget because I have seen a bunch of ways to handle your situation
[23:23] <RPG-Master> Is their a way to install Ubuntu to an extra internal hard drive *from* a currently running Ubuntu on another hard drive in the computer?
[23:23] <CiscoNinja> Kentos, no smart tv
[23:23] <RPG-Master> *in the same computer
[23:24] <zeeeero> for about 150$ you could build an itx to fi5t on the back of your tv(s)
[23:24] <Kentos> yeah, I'm not quite sure what your after then, zeeero seems to be more knowledgeable
[23:24] <pragmaticenigma> RPG-Master: You could use something like CloneZilla to image the main drive to the second drive.  You would have an exact copy for each harddrive
[23:25] <CiscoNinja> what is itx zeeeero ?
[23:25] <RPG-Master> pragmaticenigma: Is that ok if the "from" hard drive has bad sectors, which is why I'm doing this?
[23:25]  * CiscoNinja google to the rescue
[23:25] <zeeeero> also for $40-$70 you can buy one of many streaming box tops that support a wide variety of streamcast including your pc
[23:26] <pragmaticenigma> RPG-Master: It is possible that the corrupted sectors may cause difficulty, however, there is no harm in trying
[23:26] <CiscoNinja> zeeeero, ahhhh itx mobo
[23:26] <zeeeero> VERY low power mobo thats around 8"x8"
[23:27] <RPG-Master> pragmaticenigma: If I have so, I will, but if I can just install Ubuntu to the second hard drive with this current Ubuntu, I'd prefer it.
[23:27] <CiscoNinja> zeeeero, but then i will need a hdd and other stuff right
[23:27] <Kentos> would that allow him to then stream data wirelessly to his TV?
[23:27] <pragmaticenigma> RPG-Master: There is no way to "install" using one harddisk to another
[23:28] <delinquentme> http://pastie.org/4698752 ikonia does this mean mysql is running or not?
[23:28] <zeeeero> something that only did streaming could run from a 4gb usb
[23:28] <CiscoNinja> zeeeero do you mind to take this to pm....i don't want to piss ops since this is heading away from ubuntu
[23:28] <RPG-Master> pragmaticenigma: Eh, ok. I admit defeat. :/
[23:28] <_Marcus> What is the package name for CGI-bin?
[23:29] <RPG-Master> pragmaticenigma: Thanks for the help.
[23:29] <pragmaticenigma> _Marcus: There is no package CGI-BIN... that is just a folder used by apache to host server executed scripts
[23:29] <_Marcus> pragmaticenigma: So it's part of Apache?
[23:29] <zeeeero> yeah sure. dont know why it matter though I have been asking for a seemingly simple permissions queastion for about 45 mins now and no one here knows dick.
[23:29] <pragmaticenigma> _Marcus: It's a directory configured by Apache to store executable scripts
[23:30] <CiscoNinja> zeeeero, they make 32gb usb now! that is not the issue but you will still need keyboard and mouse
[23:30] <_Marcus> zeeeero: If it's simple, why can't you answer it yourself? No need to be rude to people.
[23:30] <zeeeero> synergy or vnc
[23:30] <zeeeero> ...
[23:30] <dr_willis> synergy and vnc have differnet tasks
[23:31] <CiscoNinja> dr_willis, i like nxclient
[23:32] <CiscoNinja> zeeeero, how can i stream youtube to my tv using uvuntu and xbox360 or rocku /
[23:32] <zeeeero> it seems simple but I dont know enough console jargon to google it properly cuz I have tried. all I wanted someone to do is give me a few good search terms to point me in the right direction. I intended to DO it my self. I wanted someone else to show me what I was doing wrong so I COULD do it me self cuz Im at a wall right now
[23:33] <dr_willis> zeeeero:  for what?
[23:33] <zeeeero> attemp proceed like this Terminal/gksudo nautilus/navigated to /media/trunk (folder containing storage partition from windows set up as nas with trunk as network storage)/right clicked (gksudoed) naut window of "trunk"/ attemped to change permission of "trunk"/ owner permission successful but group and other revert back to no access.
[23:33] <_Marcus> zeeeero: What exactly is the problem that you are having?
[23:34] <dr_willis> you do NOT chown/chmod a ntfs/vfat.. you set its permissions/owner at Mount time
[23:34] <zeeeero> I cant changed the permission to a folder of files I own
[23:34] <dr_willis> zeeeero:  is it on a ntfs/vfat/network share?
[23:34] <_Marcus> zeeeero: Try changing it as root?
[23:35] <zeeeero> ntfs on the same drive as the ubuntu server install
[23:35] <dr_willis> you do NOT chown/chmod a ntfs/vfat.. you set its permissions/owner at Mount time
[23:35] <zeeeero> seperate partitions
[23:35] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[23:36] <zeeeero> so I am to change the mount. think you could kindly throw a few search terms for or you think "drive mount options" would be enough
[23:37] <Russianeer> hi
[23:37] <zeeeero> drive mount options 12.04
[23:37] <CiscoNinja> with all do respect to everyone , in the past dr_willis have helped me a lot ...this dude knows his sh*t. i would listen to him @ zeeeero
[23:38] <zeeeero> I am listening he is helping.
[23:39] <snwh> Anyone running Ubuntu on an SSD?
[23:40] <zeeeero> or was but telling me there is a different ownership process was a lot of help. Fo reals. thanks.
[23:42] <dr_willis> !ntfs-3g
[23:42] <dr_willis> is what hanelds the mounting of ntfs... ....
[23:43] <joofsh> why doesn't % tar zxvf jre-7u7linux-i586.tar.gz work?  I get a bash: fg: %: no such job error
[23:44] <Noobuntu> hello
[23:44] <Kentos> I wasn't aware you could mount ntfs partitions to ubuntu
[23:44] <dr_willis> Kentos:  have been able to for years.. and years
[23:44] <Noobuntu> my synaptiks touchpad driver crashes on every reebot
[23:44] <Noobuntu> any idea guys?
[23:45] <dr_willis> for a long time it was read only... but now a days.. ntfs-3g works well
[23:45] <Kentos> ahhh
[23:45] <dr_willis> joofsh:  you are entering a % ? thats not part of the command...
[23:45] <Kentos> that work well when networking with windows clients?
[23:45] <dr_willis> Kentos:  thats samba.. has nothing really to do with ntfs.
[23:45] <zeeeero> thank you found it. and sry for talking smak. I just assumed I gave plenty enough info for a response. sadly I didnt get any until I started talking shit. I hate talking shit but posting my problem every 3 full scroll pages on a 1080 seemed like it was enough to let those busy stay busy and let anyone who thought they might could help could let me know. and if you did tell me that earlier I didnt know what it ment without my name or conte
[23:46] <joofsh> dr_willis: arg. Yep that's it. Thank you.  Was just trying to follow the java install guide.  Says to start with a %.  silly me
[23:46] <dr_willis> samba dosent care what FS you are shareiong.. as long as the permissions are correct
[23:46] <dr_willis> joofsh:  % = part of the prompt.
[23:46] <Kentos> i see
[23:46] <joofsh> okay, good to know for future reference
[23:46] <dr_willis> zeeeero:  i still dont know what youa re rambling on about....
[23:47] <Kentos> i recently set up an odd raid style for my server, had not found documents on it before
[23:48] <dr_willis> !iso
[23:48] <m3pow> a good IDE for Ubuntu ?
[23:48] <Noobuntu> anyone had any issues with synaptiks touchad driver crashing? I use an HP dv6t laptop
[23:48] <Kentos> I set up a mirror hardware raid  on 6 drives, 2 per mirror, using one as the install mirror, and then setup a softRAID in raid 0 for the two remaining mirrors
[23:49] <Kentos> has anyone done this before?
[23:49] <giorgia1503> ciao
[23:49] <giorgia1503> !list
[23:49] <pikeaero> Code::Blocks IDE
[23:50] <m3pow> i have noticed eclipse there aswell
[23:51] <m3pow> i want one that does a good job with ruby,php, html etc
[23:51] <CiscoNinja> is there is a way i can stream my screen to TV via xbox360 and ubuntu
[23:52] <Kentos> not sure how Xbox connects to a network, out of my area of knowledge
[23:53] <CiscoNinja> Kennocha, wire(less)
[23:53] <CiscoNinja> Kentos, ^^
[23:54] <Kentos> I'm not really familiar with streaming data either, much less so in using an Xbox even for games. Let me know if you find your anwser though I wouldnt mind learning how that is done
[23:55] <dr_willis> CiscoNinja:  dlna/upnp servers can stream to a xbox360
[23:55] <dr_willis> and i think vlc can do that.
[23:55] <Kentos> id really think the Xbox would have to DL something to accept a stream, however If it already has soemthing, you might want to look into its streaming app/software
[23:56] <CiscoNinja> dr_willis, i would like to stream youtube and other sites
[23:56] <CiscoNinja> dr_willis, by dlna you mean ushare
[23:59] <pragmaticenigma> Anybody have a good resource for configuring a Nvidia GeForce 6200 card? When ever I am in X, the system hangs and the screen often draws a corrupted image
[23:59] <zeeeero> I found this and I LOVE this site as its very user frendly if you can cookie cut http://www.havetheknowhow.com/Install-the-software.html