/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2012/09/10/#ubuntuone.txt

kieppiehi guys03:40
kieppiedoes anyone know if 2FA is available via UbuntuOne? I'd like to make use of one of my more obscure Ubuntu One accounts to store some sensitive (keepass) data - otherwise I'll need to set up another gmail account03:41
spmkieppie: sure is. login to your account on login.ubuntu.com and follow the bouncy ball to add it.05:13
mandel_rye, ping08:16
JamesTaitHappy Monday, people! :-D08:18
mandel_rye, ping08:41
ryemandel_: pong08:43
ryeah08:44
ryei guess i know08:44
mandel_rye, I'm a major stupid ass and forgot the settings for the hip server yet again.. (well I saved them in ubuntuone in a note and lost them) can you pm them to me again?08:44
mandel_rye, is that what you though?08:44
mandel_rye, also, about ubuntuone, if I upload a file with a leading . does it show in the webui?08:45
ryemandel_: first - yes, i have the credentials, second - yes, they will show up08:46
ryealso it was not a good idea to start updating to quantal - i thought 1 hour will be enough but I see I have a ton of packages08:47
mandel_rye, dammed, then my .vimrc did not get synced..08:47
ryemandel_: how did you sync vimrc?08:47
mandel_just moved to ubuntuone folder08:47
mandel_rye, can you pm the creeds to me please :)08:48
ryemandel_: hm, does u1sdtool --info show it?08:48
ryemandel_: i will just post them to #ubuntuone08:48
rye:)08:48
* rye has a 23" VT100 terminal08:48
ryenow08:48
mandel_rye, no, not lever here, but I seem not to be able connect to canonical irc08:48
mandel_rye, I get stuck at logging in, can you check the logs to know what is going on?09:31
ryemandel_: are you using SSL connection?09:46
mandel_rye, no, is that a need?09:46
ryemandel_: yes, bip listens on a SSL socket09:47
mandel_rye, ok, so I'm stupid :)09:47
ryewith expired certificate, nice. Will need to update once I get back my X server09:47
mandel_rye, yes, that I noticed :)09:49
mandel_rye, awesome is working now, I'll be with my real nick then :)09:50
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gatoxGOOD MORNING! :D10:58
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alecuhola gatox! welcome back!12:19
alecugatox: how was your trip???12:19
gatoxalecu, hi!!!!!! :D12:19
gatoxalecu, AMAZING!!! :'D12:19
gatoxalecu, and the ninja-talk in the pycon was amazing!!!12:19
alecugatox: great!12:20
gatoxthe people was really excited.... a lot of people was talking about ninja after that, and i hear some of them saying that it was the best talk :D12:20
alecugatox: hehehe12:20
alecugatox: :-)12:20
gatoxbecause it was really funny jeje12:20
gatoxalecu, i'm waiting for ralsina to discuss what tasks are there for me related to the share links tabs or whatever..... do you know something about that or i should wait for him?12:21
alecugatox: I'm not aware of tasks regarding the share link tabs, but there is this: bug #104234312:37
ubot5Launchpad bug 1042343 in Ubuntu One Client "[FFE] Ubuntu One integration with Q sync indicator" [High,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104234312:37
alecugatox: we should wait for ralsina to get here to discuss what takes priority, but perhaps you can start taking a look at that.12:38
gatoxalecu, is this regarding to the sync menu implementation that is not from us?12:38
alecugatox: right12:40
gatoxalecu, ok.... i'll wait for ralsina to see if i should assign that to me.... and talk about the share tabs12:41
alecugatox: afaik there was no progress on our front regarding that.12:42
gatoxalecu, do you know where is the doc about the api of that?? to be able to use it?12:42
alecugatox: but the indicator we were waiting on is ready12:42
alecugatox: and it was already uploaded to Q12:42
alecugatox: let me find them docs12:43
gatoxany doc?? so i can start taking a look at that12:43
alecugatox: I can't find any docs; what I've found instead is the example code on how to use it: http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-sync/trunk/view/head:/examples/sync-app-example.c12:47
gatoxlets see.....12:48
alecugatox: it's c. We should be using the gobject-introspection interface though.12:48
gatoxi though there were doing a python api also12:49
gatoxs/there/they12:49
alecugatox: yes, the gobject-interface is useable from python via GI12:50
alecugatox: I found it much easier to understand by first running that example12:50
gatoxalecu, ok.... i'll check that12:51
alecugatox: in an up to date Q vm: sudo apt-get build-dep indicator-sync; bzr branch lp:indicator-sync ; cd indicator-sync; ./autogen.sh; make ;  cd example; make sync-app-example12:52
alecugatox: and on the examples dir there's a nice README on how to run it.12:53
gatoxok, thx!12:53
alecugatox: it seems you'll also need libindicator-tools3 package to run the examples.13:05
gatoxalecu, ack.... i'm downloading the image of Q13:05
ralsinagood morning!13:06
gatoxralsina, hi!13:06
alecugatox: latest alpha, right?13:09
gatoxalecu, beta113:09
alecugatox: great then.13:10
ralsinagatox: http://www.zdnet.com/the-five-best-things-coming-in-ubuntu-12-10-linux-7000003927/ #3 specially ;-)13:10
alecugatox: make sure to dist-upgrade it as much as you can, because the unity on Q is very buggy when running inside virtualbox.13:11
gatoxralsina, jejeje :'D we have to improve it and it will be awesome.... i want to discuss some ideas for the problem you mentioned13:11
gatoxalecu, ack, thx13:11
ralsinagatox: as you can see, people like it but they don't understand it :)13:11
gatoxralsina, yes, if we improve the ux.... it would be a lot better!13:12
* dobey wonders if the installer is fixed yet13:22
* alecu needs to be afk for 10 mins13:28
ralsinagatox: mumble?13:33
gatoxlets13:33
mandelalecu, hello!13:36
gatoxralsina, i lost you in mumble13:39
ralsinagatox: my internet died13:43
ralsinagatox: I am back there I think13:43
gatoxralsina, i can't see you....... i'll reconnect13:43
gatoxralsina, let me know when you are back13:51
ralsinagatox: I am back now13:55
ralsinagatox: looks like arnet hates me today13:55
gatoxralsina, hehe..... ok..... i'm in mumble13:55
ralsinagatox: if you are talking, I am not hearing it13:56
gatoxralsina, i can't see you online on mumble13:56
gatoxralsina, really...... are you on mumble? :S13:58
ralsinagatox: I keeep getting disconnected14:16
ralsinagatox: let's keep fingers crossed14:16
gatoxon mumble14:16
ralsinagatox: we can talk about that a bit later in the meantime, get started with the menu thing14:16
gatoxralsina, ack..... i'm not sure if you listen the last thing i explain about the new design..... but.... i can send you an email later if you want with all the things i have written down here14:17
ralsinagatox: what I think would be a good interaction is to do like chromium does. The first result of completion is "search for 'string'"14:18
ralsinagatox: so, if the user selects that one, we search and show results. If theuser selects a "real" completion, then we use it14:18
gatoxralsina, ahhhh good one!14:19
gatoxi like that and has more sense14:19
gatoxthat just repeat the info14:19
ralsinagatox: and before the completion is ready, we just show the search, which is reasonable behaviour14:20
gatoxyep yep14:21
ralsinagatox: but let's aim to get that in in a microrelease after Q, the sync menu OTOH has deadlines14:21
gatoxralsina, so..... should i assign that bug to me?14:27
ralsinagatox: yes14:27
gatoxack14:27
dobeymandel, ralsina: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client-data/no-installer/+merge/123565 please :)14:45
mandeldobey, on sprint, but sure no problem :)14:45
dobeymandel: oh, right. nevermind then. go sprint14:46
* mandel starts running14:46
dobeyralsina: (and someone else who isn't sprinting) https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-control-panel/no-more-installer/+merge/123566 also14:46
gatoxdobey, 52748 lines (+52308/-0) 88 files modified ??14:47
dobeygatox: translations14:47
gatoxahhhhhhh14:47
dobeyi imported them :-/14:47
* gatox reviewing....14:47
mmcchi folks, welcome back gatox, glad to hear your talk went well!14:49
gatoxmmcc, hi and thanks!! :D:D14:49
j0nrrye: Did that issue get sorted out re. not seeing my newly purchased music? I still can't see it.14:50
gatoxdobey, +114:52
dobeythanks gatox14:54
dobeygatox: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client-data/no-installer/+merge/123565 is the other half of that change (removing that bit from ubuntuone-client-data); also large, but much less so. it's just removing all the translations from there :)14:55
ralsinagatox: put my idea in a comment in lisette's document14:57
gatoxralsina, ack14:57
gatoxdobey, another +114:57
ralsinaeveryone, my internet is really flakey today and I can't leave the house (waiting for a delivery)14:57
ralsinastill I have logs, so talk to me as i I were here ;-)14:57
ralsinaI am just more async than usual14:58
ryej0nr: looking, the fixes for admin util were rolled out and I've rescanned the files yesterday, checking the status now14:58
dobeyralsina: so i guess i shouldn't expect you to do reviews?14:58
ryej0nr: hm, could you please refresh the web page with the player?14:59
ralsinadobey: I can try14:59
dobeyralsina: did you see the two i just requested? or do i need to re-link?14:59
ralsinadobey: saw them, will do them15:00
gatoxme15:00
briancurtinme15:00
ralsiname15:00
dobeygreat, thanks15:00
dobeyme15:00
gatoxalecu, thisfred mandel mmcc15:01
ralsinamandel is on sprint, he's exempt15:01
thisfredme15:01
alecume15:01
gatoxah oka15:01
ralsinagatox: go15:01
mmccme15:01
gatoxDONE:15:02
gatoxAwesome vacations, catching up, mumble, reviews, install Q, start testing the menu code15:02
gatoxTODO:15:02
gatoxKeep playing with the sync menu indicator and integrate that with u115:02
gatoxBLOCKED:15:02
gatoxNo15:02
gatoxbriancurtin, go15:02
briancurtinDONE: devtools is probably done, HTTPS "works". started testing it with SSO and working through some of the failures15:02
briancurtinTODO: keep going and make SSO work with the devtools changes15:02
briancurtinNEXT: ralsina15:02
ralsinaDONE: calls, some UI discussions, 1-1s, reviews TODO: reviews, perhaps fix a bug, maybe tech leads?, other calls BLOCKED: no, NEXT: dobey15:02
dobeyDONE: icon magic15:02
dobeyTODO: releases15:02
dobeyBLCK: None.15:02
dobeythisfred: go15:02
thisfredDONE: u1db playlists backends TODO: more of that BLOCKED: no NEXT: alecu15:02
alecuDONE: learning how to make decent unit tests on vala, lens api calls15:03
alecuTODO: more lens api calls15:03
alecuBLOCKED: no15:03
alecuNEXT: mmcc15:03
mmccDONE: fighting with launchd and root daemon ipc.15:03
mmccTODO: root daemon ipc15:03
ralsinaok EOM it is15:06
alecuralsina: tech leads call!15:07
ralsinaalecu: going15:07
dobeyare there any special things we need to ensure are in any releases today?15:10
dobeybeta2 freeze is this week, so want to make sure everything is in15:11
* gatox lunch15:12
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j0nrrye: That's got them! Thanks!15:13
ralsinadobey: nothing comes to mind15:13
ralsinadobey: could be there's nothing, could be the mind ;-)15:13
j0nrrye: hope my problem helped towards some sort of bug fix15:13
dobeyheh15:14
ryej0nr: indeed, fixed a long standing bug in the admin interface, thought we are going to roll out a proper infrastructure change soon that would fix the underlying issue properly15:21
dobeyok. off to lunch, bbiab15:30
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gatoxback16:09
dobeyok16:31
dobeyralsina: did you get a chance to review my branches, or should i bug someone else to review them? or just go ahead with 1 review on them?16:49
dobeywtf. so my internal sound card isn't showing up in pulseaudio again. and i just opened evolution and hit send/receive, and the intel bios boot sound played through that card16:51
ralsinadobey: am on it16:51
ralsinadobey: +1 on both16:52
dobeythanks16:58
dobeyoh, b2 freeze is next week actually; doh17:05
dobeyanyways17:05
dobeyralsina: https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client/update-4-0/+merge/123605 please17:35
ralsinadobey: got it17:35
ralsinadobey: for next week's beta we do want to get the sync menu integration gatox is doing, so maybe there's no point in doing some of these today17:36
gatoxralsina, i'm still trying to get the example to work :S17:36
gatoxQ in the vm works like crap17:37
ralsinagatox: I consider that working ;-)17:37
ralsinagatox: as in "you are working on it "not as "it's working" ;-)17:37
dobeyralsina: well, the point of releasing everything today is to have a schedule of releases :)17:37
gatoxralsina, jeje okok17:38
ralsinadobey: sure, just checking.17:38
ralsinadobey: in any case +117:38
dobeythanks17:39
gatoxalecu, ping17:39
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gatoxalecu, please let me know when you are around18:13
ralsinaI'll go have a late lunch, then school run, will be back in about 90'18:25
gatoxok..... the example works now.....18:47
* briancurtin needs fresh air, be back after a quick break19:55
gatoxeod here!!! see you tomorrow people!!20:05
* gatox will keep fighting the good fight with gir20:05
dobeyhmm20:24
dobeycnyone left around to do reviews?20:26
dobeyeasy updating the stable branch reviews, even20:27
ralsinadobey: sure20:35
dobeyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntu-sso-client/update-4-0/+merge/12363520:37
dobeyhttps://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/rhythmbox-ubuntuone/update-4-0/+merge/12363620:37
ralsinadobey: got'em20:37
ralsinadobey: I am getting broken pages in launchpad, hopefully it's chromium acting up...20:43
dobeyralsina: chromium, or your ISP, depending on what you mean by broken. oh, and godaddy dns stuff is down, so could be related20:46
ralsinadobey: I am getting blank texts in half the page20:46
dobeyhrmm20:46
dobeyworks fine here20:46
ralsinaso may be chromium. It's cranky since a couple of weeks ago anyway20:47
mmccgoing to lunch. FYI, I think I've tracked my root daemon IPC issues down to memory management problems as a result of dropping ARC. Should be straightforward to fix20:48
* mmcc crosses fingers20:48
ralsinammcc: good news!21:01
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ralsinadobey: +1 on sso21:07
dobeythanks21:07
ralsinadobey: and +1 on rb-u121:12
dobeygreat21:12
ralsinaI will go take some fresh air, will be back later21:12
ralsinadobey: any more reviews need doing?21:12
dobeynot right now21:13
dobeyalright all. i'm out of here. have a good evening!22:07
mmccbye dobey22:09
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briancurtini guess time flies when you're porting webclient tests. with that, i'm out of here.22:48
mmccGood News everyone: the root daemon works now22:51
mmcc(from launchd :)22:51
mmccthe last issue was that launchd gives you an opened file descriptor that you can't get the path to. so fcntl(…, F_GETPATH) dies.22:53
mmccAlso, I now have new standards for C-family-language code reviews: no more unchecked return values, or if( call_that_can_fail() ){} with no else…22:55
mmccbecause fcntl doesn't actually die, it politely returns a failure value and sets errno with a mostly helpful explanation. You just have to listen…22:56
* mmcc is done now22:56
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mmccI'll come back tonight to clean this up and propose it, and probably put up a new build sometime soon. Next, we need to figure out how to tell the user / give them a choice about what backend to use…23:09
mmccor if to give them a choice23:09
mmccok, EOD for now23:09

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