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[14:20] <G__81> hi
[14:20] <joever> hi guys
[14:21] <G__81> i am having a system with xubuntu installed (12.04) and i face issues with shortcuts, especially the terminal does not get maximized when i press Alt+ F7
[14:21] <G__81> anyone facing this problem ?
[14:21] <biuffon> hi
[14:22] <joever> does anyone can help me with how to make xubuntu run faster? 12.04
[14:22] <joever> please thanks :)
[14:54] <Mathias> is there a way to boot up from a cd via grub?
[14:54] <Mathias> i kind of messed it up
[14:59] <baizon> insert the cd and boot from it :)
[14:59] <Mathias> i can't
[15:13] <G__81> why is that some of the keyboard shortcuts are broken in xubuntu
[15:14] <G__81> i am using 4.10 but i saw the same problem with 4.8 as well
[15:16] <recon_lap> G__81: 4.10? anyway, do you mean media keys by keyboard shortcuts?
[15:17] <G__81> the maximize key is broken which i saw especially and few others.
[15:17] <G__81> the Alt+F7 does not work
[15:18] <G__81> if you change it to something else it works for that session and once you reboot it stops working again
[15:20] <recon_lap> G__81: http://xubuntu.org/news/12-04-release/#defaultshortcuts
[15:21] <G__81> recon_lap, yes i have seen that . Try out the Alt+F7 one Maximizing the window it does not work
[15:22] <recon_lap> G_81: did you upgrade? if so read the know issues.
[15:22] <G__81> recon_lap, i installed 4.8 and it didnt work and then upgraded to 4.10 it still does not work
[15:28] <recon_lap> G_81: your right, seems like it's fubar , maybe someone with more exp will help
[15:29] <recon_lap> I reset to defaults and F5,F6,F7 all dont do anything
[15:30] <recon_lap> opps, I take that back , f7 does not do anything
[15:30] <apm1> recon_lap, thinkpad ?
[15:30] <recon_lap> no, aspire
[15:31] <apm1> "god" save people from acer :D
[15:32] <apm1> recon_lap, new ?
[15:32] <apm1> ^if you can return it :D
[15:33] <recon_lap> apm, laptop is over 4 years old and still limping along :)
[15:33] <apm1> recon_lap, netbook ?
[15:33] <apm1> what distro ? xubuntu ?
[15:34] <recon_lap> aspire 6930g with nvedia 6800 , xubuntu
[15:34] <apm1> nvidia geforce 6800 huh nice :)
[15:35] <apm1> my nvidia machine owns my ati  bigtime
[15:35] <recon_lap> don't see any of the f-5 f-6 or f-7 shortcuts in the keyboard setting app
[15:36] <apm1> recon_lap, do you have a "fn" key on your aspire ?
[15:36] <recon_lap> yep, spent the extra when buying it
[15:36] <apm1> ?
[15:37] <apm1> the function key is present or not ?
[15:37] <recon_lap> apm1: I got the fn key, I spent extra to get the nvidia video card
[15:37] <apm1> ok
[15:37] <apm1> try holding fn key and then press f1,f2...
[15:38] <recon_lap> apm1, they work, but fn-7 turns my screen off
[15:38] <recon_lap> fn-f7
[15:39] <apm1> fn-f7 is genrally mapped for your vga cable port output at least on my thinkpad it is
[15:40] <recon_lap> well, it's G__81 who wants the alt-f7 key to work
[15:40] <Sysi> winkey + B is so much better :P
[15:41] <recon_lap> I'd be happy to see the functions operate and documented ;)
[15:41] <recon_lap> and/as
[15:41] <Mathias> yay, i managed to boot from usb via grub :P
[15:45] <recon_lap> hmm, might have to re-login to get changes to work, brb
[15:47] <recon_lap> nope, alt-f7 not maximizing windows
[15:47] <Mathias> ;3~
[15:48] <Mathias> lol, that's what alt+f7 does in irssi :P
[15:48] <TheSheep> recon_lap: all the keys are configured in the window manager settings and you can view them there
[15:48] <Mathias> try alt+f10
[15:48] <Mathias> alt+f9 minimizes and alt+f10 maximizes
[15:49] <Mathias> or normalizes?
[15:49] <Mathias> unmaximizes*
[15:49] <torax> Hey, Can the keyboard used to install xubuntu effect the system keyboard layout of the installed system?
[15:49] <Sysi> alt F7 set for maximizing works fine for me
[15:50] <Sysi> 4.10 on 12.04
[15:50] <TheSheep> torax: not, but it may affect it
[15:50] <recon_lap> Mathias: alt - f10 maximizes alright, but why do the release not say that alt-f7 does this?
[15:50] <recon_lap> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/Xubuntu
[15:50] <TheSheep> torax: you can't effect a keyboard with software, unless it's software in a keyboard factory
[15:52] <torax> Because I have installed xubuntu on 2 computers with logitech K250 and had "bug" in both that it uses us layout and I cannot change login screen keyboard layout from anywhere. But when I installed xubuntu from same media to same computer with another keyboard the layout worked
[15:53] <Mathias> doesn't that just depend on what you choose under the installation?
[15:53] <torax> yes, thats why this is so weird
[15:53] <TheSheep> torax: you choose the keyboard layout during the installation, in the installer
[15:53] <recon_lap> well. my keyboard layout is set to irish
[15:54] <torax> TheSheep: I always chose finnish keyboard
[15:54] <recon_lap> Top of the morning to all of ya ;)
[15:54] <Mathias> i always choose norwegian keyboard
[15:54] <Mathias> weird isn't it?
[15:54] <recon_lap> begor it tis
[15:56] <recon_lap> G__81: does alt-f10 work for you?
[15:57] <recon_lap> cant seem to find where the FX shortcut keys are set, they dont show in keyboard setting
[15:57] <torax> TheSheep: approaching from different angle, where does one set login screen keyboard layout
[15:58] <ekkos> I have (two) problems with Xubuntu/Xfce (not sure which to adress..). a) When mounting a cryptsetup drive it accepts the key and mounts just fine. But tells me that there is a job pending on /dev/md-1 (i dont have a mdadm raid). and b) The places menu does not display an icon for the cryptsetup drive.
[15:59] <ekkos> Does anybody know a solution for these problems ?
[15:59] <TheSheep> torax: you have an icon in the upper left corner to change it, and the default is the system's default, which you can change with 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration'
[16:02] <ekkos> oh. i just noticed about /dev/md-0 : /dev/mapper is a symlink to it
[16:02] <ekkos> /dev/mapper/{uuid}
[16:03] <recon_lap> G__81: ok, found the keyboard shortcuts, they are in System Setting -> Window Manager -> Keyboard
[16:05] <recon_lap> Alt-F7 is in there as maximize window but it does not work :(
[16:07] <recon_lap> alt f-10 is not in there but it maximizes the window ???
[16:11] <G__81> recon_lap, you can delete the shortcut and add it again it will work but reboot will lose it again
[16:12] <torax> TheSheep: I am able to change kb layout with dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, but the settings does not last when I log in again
[16:12] <TheSheep> torax: look into /etc/default/keyboard
[16:12] <Mathias> i need some help fixing my grub now, could anyone help me? :)
[16:14] <torax> TheSheep: XKBLAYOUT=fi
[16:14] <TheSheep> torax: looks fine
[16:15] <recon_lap> Mathias: hmm, dont like messing with people boot record
[16:15] <joever> hi guys
[16:16] <joever> i'm running xubuntu 12.04. experiencing fuzzy and blurry fonts. can someone help me please/
[16:16] <joever> ?
[16:16] <recon_lap> G__81: ok, seems that there is a bug in there, you could use alt-f10 and file a bug report
[16:16] <Mathias> *bleeeep* it
[16:16] <Mathias> i'll just reinstall
[16:17] <recon_lap> Mathias: have a read of http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-24113.html , are you installing with a USB stick or a CD?
[16:17] <Mathias> USB
[16:17] <Mathias> managed to boot it via grub :P
[16:17] <torax> TheSheep: yep everything seems like fi layout would be in use, but I havent yet been able to change login screen layout, I dont have button to change it in the the login screen itself
[16:18] <recon_lap> Mathias: so the USB stick did not work without tweeking
[16:18] <Mathias> recon_lap: locked up computer ;P
[16:20] <recon_lap> Mathias: how did you create the live USB on the flashdrive?
[16:20] <Mathias> with my other laptop (the one that's barely useable)
[16:21] <recon_lap> Mathias: is it running XUbuntu, what program did you use to write the iso to the USB
[16:21] <Mathias> xubuntu 12.04 and unetbootin
[16:22] <Mathias> the laptop(broken one) is installing now :D
[16:23] <recon_lap> Mathias: crosses finges
[16:24] <Mathias> yeah, if it breaks i'll have nothing to do today and then i need to borrow a comp with a sata-interface :P
[16:29] <G__81> recon_lap, yeah will file it. There is another bug. When i do git clone or pull i get this warning
[16:29] <G__81> "WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to: /tmp/keyring-ySN77r/pkcs11: No such file or directory
[16:29] <G__81> Already up-to-date.
[16:29] <G__81> "
[16:29] <G__81> anyone else facing this ?
[16:30] <recon_lap> G__81: remember reading that issues somewhere recently
[16:30] <Mathias> tried making the file just to see what happens?
[16:31] <recon_lap> G__81:  the /tmp/ folder look a bit suspicious to me
[16:32] <v1adimir> not using it atm, but tmp does look strange?..
[16:37] <recon_lap> ok, tmp not looking so odd now, probably where is stores you credentials for that session
[16:37] <recon_lap> found a old bug report from ubuntu https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-keyring/+bug/932177
[16:37] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 932177 in gnome-keyring (Debian) "XFCE (and other non-GNOME) desktops do not initialise gnome-keyring correctly / WARNING: gnome-keyring:: couldn't connect to PKCS11" [Unknown,New]
[16:41] <recon_lap> G__81: you see that bug report ^^
[16:42] <G__81> yeah looks like its not released as such?
[16:42] <G__81> the bug fix for it
[16:43] <Mathias> ok, now i'm going to reboot it
[16:43] <Mathias> let's hope it doesn't *bleep* itself up
[16:43] <G__81> recon_lap, it says this as a workaround http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=649408#109
[16:43] <ubottu> Debian bug 649408 in gnome-keyring "gnome-keyring: no socket to connect to" [Critical,Open]
[16:43] <G__81> can gnome-keyring be uninstalled ?
[16:46] <recon_lap> G__81:  that fix was targeted for release 4.6 of xfce , seems it's back for you
[16:46] <G__81> recon_lap, looks like it should be for 4.10
[16:46] <G__81> This should be fixed with xfce4-session 4.10 (in quantal), but gnome-compat needs to be reenabled by default now (Bug #1008993).
[16:46] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 1008993 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "enable gnome services compat (for gnome-keyring)" [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1008993
[16:47] <G__81> i am using 4.10 and i am still seeing it
[16:47] <recon_lap> G__81:  it's a zombie bug , back from the dead :)
[16:48] <G__81> :)
[16:49] <recon_lap> G__81: I dont get any messages from keyring , so cant really comment
[16:49] <recon_lap> G__81: you running 64bit?
[16:50] <G__81> yes i am running 64 bit
[16:50] <G__81> i added a comment to that bug stating that i am facing the problem still
[16:54] <orangepnut> what's a good program to burn an iso
[16:55] <holstein> orangepnut: the default one works well.. i think that is xfburn
[16:55] <holstein> orangepnut: you can open the package manager of your choice and search for burners if you dont like the default one
[16:55] <holstein> brasero is a commonly used one
[16:56] <SkippersBoss> k3b has always been my favourite
[16:57] <holstein> yup.. if you dont mind the KDE libs.. k3b is *very* nice
[16:58] <v1adimir> lol I get so mad when I don't notice the KDE dependence and a whole truckload of stuff gets installed with a program :s
[16:59] <recon_lap> danm, forgot my ssh passphrase aggh
[17:00] <v1adimir> xD
[17:02] <recon_lap> G__81: might be a 64bit issue, but not sure if I'm even using keyring
[17:02] <Mathias> recon_lap: get a smartcard with certifcates on :P
[17:04] <v1adimir> Mathias: that's a great idea, to have a computer key for everything.. i should look into it. =)
[17:04] <Mathias> :P
[17:04] <Mathias> i've ordered some smartcards because i'm lazy and i keep forgetting stuff :P
[17:04] <v1adimir> no rly lol, never actually figured it out
[17:05] <v1adimir> hehe cool
[17:07] <Mathias> and they're cool
[17:07] <v1adimir> :)
[17:07] <Mathias> adds more geekyness to the laptops :P
[17:14] <biuffon> please some help. =( xubuntu hangs when i  use any app with a little of 3d graphic..
[17:15] <biuffon> and drives seems to be good installed
[17:15] <holstein> biuffon: drivers? they "seem" good?
[17:16] <holstein> thats what i would look into.. the graphics driver
[17:16] <biuffon> and glxgears opens a window but doest show the gears
[17:17] <biuffon> sorry about my English
[17:17] <holstein> biuffon: sounds like a graphics driver issue then...
[17:18] <biuffon> yep. =S i dont know how to fix it..
[17:19] <biuffon> lspci grep vga: Ati Express 200m
[17:19] <holstein> biuffon: i would search around for a bug relating to that specific hardware.. i would check for and apply all updates.. i would search for an older driver to try... maybe try that PPA... xorg edgers
[17:20] <biuffon> im using those xorg..
[17:20] <recon_lap> biuffon: you probably need to install the property drivers for that graphics card
[17:20] <holstein> biuffon: the xorg edgers PPA? that could be the issue... i would look for the proprietary driver that recon_lap is mentioning that i was assuming you had installed
[17:21] <biuffon> but propertary  doest work since 2008 i think.. ati leave support
[17:21] <biuffon> =/
[17:22] <biuffon> thats what i found..
[17:22] <recon_lap> thats why I alway go for nivida graphics cards, better support
[17:22] <biuffon> i cant change.. its my laptop integrated graphics
[17:22] <biuffon> haha
[17:24] <biuffon>  recon_lap ?
[17:25] <recon_lap> biuffon: well, if you want more specific help you need to at lest give us make and model of you computer, can say that i can help though
[17:25] <recon_lap> can't*
[17:26] <biuffon> Good its a toshiba satellite pro a100
[17:26] <biuffon> intel celerom m
[17:26] <biuffon> 512 ram
[17:27] <v1adimir> *celeron ;)
[17:27] <biuffon> haha my bad..
[17:27] <v1adimir> :p
[17:28] <biuffon> in using xubuntu 12.04
[17:28] <biuffon> i'm *
[17:30] <biuffon> ATI RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200M]
[17:31] <holstein> biuffon: i would probably force vesa and test.. i remember being so happy when i got rid of my old satelite that was a pain with linux
[17:32] <biuffon> haha.. i know what you mean
[17:33] <biuffon> give me a hint how to do that? then i keep going..
[17:33] <biuffon> please =)
[17:35] <recon_lap> biuffon: not looking good from what i'm reading
[17:36] <biuffon> =S
[17:39] <recon_lap> biuffon: might be better to look for a old cheep nvidia laptop video card and install it
[17:39] <biuffon> i'll making a xorg.cong file..
[17:39] <biuffon> i'l try **
[17:53] <holstein> biuffon: i sometimes use a puppylinux live CD to setup a vesa enviroment that is working, and copy the xorg.conf
[17:54] <biuffon> fine.. i'll for it
[17:54] <biuffon> puppylinux
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[22:53] <tuxhat> hey
[23:19] <AndreeeCZ> hi! running latest stable xubuntu. When i set my panel to autohide, it cannot be unhidden by mouse. When its set to visible all the time, its visible
[23:23] <holstein> AndreeeCZ: are you up to date with upgrades?
[23:23] <holstein> AndreeeCZ: i would try as a new user
[23:25] <AndreeeCZ> holstein, ah.. it seems that it works now. Not shure what solved it
[23:25] <AndreeeCZ> sure :D
[23:33] <AndreeeCZ> holstein, my next problem : :)
[23:33] <AndreeeCZ> i cant set brightness
[23:33] <AndreeeCZ> via xfce4-power-manager-plugins
[23:33] <AndreeeCZ> and the brightness plugin
[23:33] <AndreeeCZ> when i click on it on the panel, nothing happens