| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| === jtechidna is now known as JontheEchidna | ||
| nixternal | this channel has seriously been quiet for almost 10 hours now? or did you all kick me or something | 05:29 |
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| * micahg waves to nixternal | 05:35 | |
| === fuchs is now known as Guest22658 | ||
| Mamarok | so no way to upgrade kde-full with kdeplasma-addons | 08:24 |
| Mamarok | why would that have an influence on meta-packages? | 08:24 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: what's the issue? | 08:24 |
| Mamarok | oh, still some missing packages in 4.9.1 apparently | 08:25 |
| Mamarok | kdeplasma-addons : Depends: plasma-widgets-addons (>= 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed | 08:25 |
| Mamarok | Depends: plasma-runners-addons (>= 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed | 08:25 |
| Mamarok | Depends: plasma-widget-lancelot (>= 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed | 08:25 |
| Mamarok | Depends: plasma-wallpapers-addons (>= 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed | 08:25 |
| Mamarok | Depends: plasma-containments-addons (>= 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1) but 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu2 is to be installed | 08:25 |
| shadeslayer | aye, haven't been built/published/sync'd to your mirror yet I presume | 08:26 |
| Mamarok | I use the main server | 08:26 |
| shadeslayer | then most likely the former 2 | 08:26 |
| Mamarok | hm, so building/publishing 4.9.1 takes over 24 hours | 08:27 |
| shadeslayer | plasma-widgets-addons | 4:4.9.0-0ubuntu2 | quantal/universe | amd64, armel, armhf, powerpc | 08:28 |
| shadeslayer | plasma-widgets-addons | 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1 | quantal/universe | i386 | 08:28 |
| shadeslayer | ^ I guess you have amd64 :) | 08:28 |
| shadeslayer | oh my | 08:29 |
| shadeslayer | amd64 failed | 08:29 |
| shadeslayer | trololol : libmarble-dev : Depends: libmarblewidget14 (= 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1) but it is not going to be installe | 08:29 |
| Mamarok | I wonder why 64bit stills looks like a stepchild, while most people nowadays have 64bit systems | 08:30 |
| shadeslayer | most likely because amd64 queues were longer | 08:31 |
| Mamarok | no, you don't get it: apparently i386 is default and everything else seems secondary | 08:31 |
| Mamarok | when 64bit should be default by now | 08:32 |
| Mamarok | I don't know if the CDs shipped to local teams are now 64bit, but back when I was head of the Swiss Team we mostly got i386 | 08:33 |
| Mamarok | which was in no relation to what people demanded | 08:33 |
| shadeslayer | ah that way | 08:33 |
| shadeslayer | yes | 08:33 |
| shadeslayer | I agree :) | 08:33 |
| Mamarok | which is stupid | 08:34 |
| shadeslayer | Mamarok: amd64 build ongoing for kdeplasma-addons | 08:34 |
| shadeslayer | should be done soonish | 08:34 |
| Mamarok | OK | 08:34 |
| xnox | one always works, while the other doesn't on some systems | 08:34 |
| shadeslayer | well ... I'm aware of only a couple of devices which can't handle x86_64 | 08:35 |
| Mamarok | xnox: that is just not true | 08:35 |
| Mamarok | that was so 5 years ago, but not now anymore | 08:35 |
| xnox | there are still 32 bit machines being sold. | 08:36 |
| shadeslayer | xnox: sure, but how many of them do support the 64 bit instruction set? Don't most Intel CPU's support the 64 bit instruction set? | 08:37 |
| shadeslayer | ( not sure about AMD ) | 08:37 |
| Mamarok | xnox: just because there are some still sold means that it should still considered to be default | 08:38 |
| Mamarok | I haven't had a 32bit system in over 5 years | 08:38 |
| yofel | there are still people that like i386 with PAE as it uses a bit less memory | 08:39 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: how does one use kbatch? | 08:40 |
| yofel | dunno, what's that? | 08:41 |
| Riddell | I installed kubuntu on a friends machine this weekend, tried 64 bit first and was surprised to find the machine didn't support it | 08:41 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger mentioned it ... not sure how to use it ... might have to read the code | 08:41 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: lp:~apachelogger/kubuntu-dev-tools/kbatch | 08:41 |
| * yofel has i386 running on his work notebook - but wubi's to blame for that | 08:42 | |
| shadeslayer | tehehe, backportpackage downloading o-i at 110 Mbps | 08:42 |
| shadeslayer | *yawn* | 08:44 |
| yofel | be happy instead of bored! :P | 08:44 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: it's just these visa forms are so boring to fill :P | 08:44 |
| yofel | oh, ok | 08:45 |
| debfx | I'll upload kde-l10n 4.9.1 | 09:11 |
| apachelogger | shadeslayer: lol, the first thing one ought to do is look at the code | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | :) | 09:13 |
| shadeslayer | apachelogger: I used backportpackage instead, worked like a charm, no idea if it'll build though :P | 09:13 |
| * shadeslayer will throw it up in ninjas and fix up as problems come up | 09:14 | |
| apachelogger | yeah | 09:15 |
| apachelogger | I am pretty sure I talked about kbatch WRT packages not uploaded | 09:15 |
| shadeslayer | yofel uploaded all of them, so doesn't matter now ;) | 09:16 |
| shadeslayer | 4.9.1 uploading for precise into ninjas | 09:23 |
| shadeslayer | so. much. lp. mail | 09:27 |
| debfx | at least you don't get translation import mails anymore ;) | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | aye | 09:28 |
| shadeslayer | great, ants on my keyboard | 10:22 |
| apachelogger | http://alan927.jalbum.net/Skins/ExhibitPlus/Folder/slides/Ants%20with%20an%20Appetite.jpg | 10:27 |
| === TheDrums is now known as Guest38162 | ||
| shadeslayer | how odd | 11:30 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ninjas/+archive/ppa/+build/3779072 < doesn't show any logs | 11:31 |
| shadeslayer | I'm not sure if it's even building | 11:31 |
| shadeslayer | hm ... seems it is | 11:31 |
| shadeslayer | https://launchpad.net/builders/charichuelo | 11:31 |
| BluesKaj | Heyas all | 12:55 |
| soee | ji2u | 13:13 |
| mparillo | It looks as if KDE 4.9.1 is almost ready. Want me to draft an announcement for the kubuntu/news site, but not check the publish box? | 13:15 |
| Riddell | mparillo: go for it | 13:30 |
| Riddell | but that's KDE SC 4.9.1, now you're into marketing you need to use the correct terms :) | 13:31 |
| Riddell | (and KDE SC shouldn't be used on much user facing stuff, it's ugly) | 13:31 |
| mparillo | Will do. I think it is proper to use the 'official' terminology whenever possible, even if it is a mouthful. | 13:34 |
| mparillo | BTW, I think https://www-admin.kubuntu.org/ may have an expired certificate. | 13:35 |
| yofel_ | wasn't it officially named 'KDE Workspaces, Applications, whatever else 4.9.1' now? | 13:35 |
| mparillo | yofel_: My sugested compromise is to use KDE SC 4.9.1 in the link but KDE Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Platform 4.9.1 in the title. It should be in the draft I will post, but not publish, shortly. | 13:39 |
| yofel_ | yeah, that sounds about right | 13:39 |
| mparillo | Done: News KDE Plasma Workspaces, Applications and Platform 4.9.1 has been created. | 13:40 |
| === skaet_ is now known as skaet | ||
| BluesKaj | the upgrade to 4.9.1 seems to gone well , so far | 14:16 |
| BluesKaj | to have | 14:16 |
| xnox | Riddell++ | 16:13 |
| * xnox achievement unlocked - "Great commit!" | 16:13 | |
| debfx | o_O | 16:15 |
| JontheEchidna | think he's referring to http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-installer/ubiquity/trunk/revision/5654 | 16:41 |
| debfx | LUKS support \o/ | 16:44 |
| === yofel_ is now known as yofel | ||
| Riddell | I still need to get a FFe on that ubiquity change | 19:03 |
| Riddell | and testers needed | 19:03 |
| Riddell | but maybe we can drop the alternate now | 19:03 |
| yofel | wasn't keeping the alternate mostly about offline-upgrades? | 19:05 |
| Riddell | yofel: I've mostly heard it being about partitioning options | 19:24 |
| yofel | that too, but I vaguely remember rbelem saying something about that during the UDS discussion | 19:25 |
| shadeslayer | you know there's a whole thread about dropping alternate cd | 19:26 |
| yofel | kuforums? | 19:26 |
| shadeslayer | *cd's on ubuntu devel | 19:26 |
| yofel | oh | 19:26 |
| * yofel realizes he hasn't read ubuntu-devel the last 3 weeks | 19:27 | |
| BluesKaj | shadeslayer, I sure hope not , the alternate install has always been a saviour for mu y older pcs | 19:27 |
| Riddell | I think that's pretty much concluded, they dropped alternates for beta | 19:28 |
| shadeslayer | I didn't follow it all the way through, that thread is gianormus ....47 emails | 19:29 |
| * yofel just wanted to ask for a tl;dr version... | 19:29 | |
| shadeslayer | hah :P | 19:30 |
| BluesKaj | Riddell, bummer:( | 19:30 |
| Riddell | BluesKaj: why? | 19:30 |
| yofel | it's still a bit more reliable on some hardware as it doesn't require KMS (and not all people know what nomodeset means) | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: try reading the one about the app developer upload process | 19:31 |
| yofel | shadeslayer: weekend - maybe | 19:31 |
| BluesKaj | the alternate install was reliable when the regular livecd wouldn't install | 19:31 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: FWIW nomodeset will now screw with drivers | 19:31 |
| yofel | as in...? | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | ( from what I have been told ) | 19:32 |
| yofel | I don't mind as long as it works | 19:32 |
| shadeslayer | yofel: apparently drivers are expected to be used only with modesetting | 19:33 |
| shadeslayer | without it, undefined behavior | 19:33 |
| yofel | and the problem with that is? | 19:33 |
| shadeslayer | passing nomodeset as an argument will lead to X being all weird | 19:34 |
| shadeslayer | or video drivers working improperly | 19:35 |
| yofel | as long as "X being all weird" means "fall back to VESA" I'm fine with that | 19:35 |
| mparillo | There was some user-focused discussion on the Proposal to drop Ubuntu alternate CDs for 12.10 at: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2049021 | 19:36 |
| shadeslayer | dunno about it falling back to VESA since I have to manually specify fbdev in xorg.conf | 19:36 |
| Riddell | darkwing, apachelogger, JontheEchidna, jussi01-nom, ScottK: nudge, meeting vote please, not much of a meeting without a council http://www.doodle.com/ep9bqbapvfh4r9aw | 19:44 |
| JontheEchidna | Riddell: done | 19:48 |
| yofel | oh, kdegames moved to git - yet another tar count explosion | 20:35 |
| ScottK | Riddell: Done (and done correctly if the poll is in UTC). | 21:36 |
| JontheEchidna | weird backtrace du jour: http://paste.kde.org/547340/ | 22:21 |
| JontheEchidna | that function only returns a QString. must be threading issues *sigh* | 22:22 |
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