| silverarrow | bkm, I haven`t tried chromium | 00:05 |
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| silverarrow | I`m on the ppc iso where Firefox is default browser | 00:06 |
| bkm | interesting! | 00:06 |
| silverarrow | bkm, does the flash bundle alternative work fine with chromium | 00:07 |
| bkm | no | 00:07 |
| bkm | not for me | 00:07 |
| silverarrow | pepper api or something like that | 00:07 |
| silverarrow | I hope they keep working on that | 00:07 |
| silverarrow | it is too new to run smooth on all setups I suppose | 00:07 |
| bkm | haven't figured out how to make it work, so i'm not one to ask. everything seems to blow up (or consume all of the limited resources) as far as i can tell | 00:08 |
| silverarrow | I keep getting conflicting info about the papi, they have already abandoned it, or they are still working on it | 00:09 |
| silverarrow | bkm, what kind of computer do you have? | 00:09 |
| bkm | 900 mhz; 512 ram pc | 00:10 |
| silverarrow | which is not too bad | 00:10 |
| silverarrow | however flash is the most difficult thing on low specs | 00:11 |
| bkm | seems to be | 00:11 |
| silverarrow | trick is to find workarounds | 00:11 |
| silverarrow | and run one application at a time when streaming any video | 00:11 |
| silverarrow | have you found anything that works? | 00:12 |
| bkm | i followed a hack of placing the adobe version in place of the whatever version, and that hack worked for a long time | 00:12 |
| bkm | now it does not seem to. something has changed | 00:13 |
| silverarrow | if it streamed smoothly it should though | 00:13 |
| silverarrow | adobe hardly streams smooth with less than 1.5GHz | 00:14 |
| silverarrow | it does depend a bit upon the cpu though | 00:14 |
| bkm | a weird problem is that worldcat.org tries to tell me what libraries hold a certain book, but with chromium, the libraries never show up. i'm not sure why | 00:14 |
| bkm | later chrome versions work as does firefox | 00:15 |
| bkm | i'm not sure what is happening on that website | 00:15 |
| silverarrow | anything I can test+ | 00:17 |
| silverarrow | ? | 00:18 |
| silverarrow | I`m not registered thre | 00:18 |
| silverarrow | hi | 02:08 |
| silverarrow | I am troubleshooting totem and mplayer plugins | 02:08 |
| kanliot | sup | 03:03 |
| Orrin_Fox | hey there | 03:17 |
| tony_ | hello | 03:17 |
| bioterror | morning | 03:19 |
| Orrin_Fox | I was wondering if i could have some advice on how well lubuntu would work on my desktop, I love ubuntu but.. well it doesnt work well on my desktop | 03:20 |
| tony_ | what's wrong with ubuntu? | 03:21 |
| Orrin_Fox | Ubuntu standard appears to lag upon entering the desktop (KDE) | 03:22 |
| Orrin_Fox | I tried Gnome, almost similar | 03:22 |
| Orrin_Fox | I happened to hear around the corner that lubuntu could handle the lighter-capable computers | 03:23 |
| tony_ | lubuntu is a lot faster | 03:24 |
| Orrin_Fox | how well would you say it could respond on 256MB ram? | 03:25 |
| kanliot | nearly as well as windows xp | 03:26 |
| tony_ | the minimum RAM to install Lubuntu is 256 MB | 03:26 |
| kanliot | which is good | 03:26 |
| Orrin_Fox | cool | 03:26 |
| Orrin_Fox | yeah windows XP was on this previously | 03:26 |
| kanliot | just don't open 5 tabs in chromium | 03:26 |
| kanliot | it will be slow | 03:26 |
| Orrin_Fox | lol yeah | 03:26 |
| kanliot | try firefox or xxxterm | 03:26 |
| kanliot | if you get it intstalled | 03:27 |
| kanliot | please post your results | 03:27 |
| kanliot | we like to hear positive stuff | 03:27 |
| Orrin_Fox | oh yeah, so far ubuntu hasnt really given me any problems | 03:27 |
| kanliot | i'm testing 12.10 | 03:28 |
| kanliot | not there yet :) | 03:28 |
| Orrin_Fox | ah thats cool | 03:29 |
| kanliot | actually | 03:29 |
| kanliot | if you are lazy | 03:29 |
| kanliot | you can just install lubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu | 03:29 |
| kanliot | and i think you are | 03:29 |
| Orrin_Fox | well, i would overall just get an iso and throw it on the drive | 03:30 |
| kanliot | you wouldn't even have to reboot | 03:31 |
| tony_ | it would be a lot faster to do it like he said | 03:31 |
| kanliot | to use lubuntu | 03:31 |
| kanliot | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu | 03:31 |
| Orrin_Fox | but, if ubuntu wont even fully start up.. i would be able to work lubuntu onto it? | 03:31 |
| kanliot | uh | 03:32 |
| kanliot | please be specific about yer problem | 03:32 |
| kanliot | i can't guess | 03:32 |
| tony_ | once you get to the logon screen you can choose lubuntu | 03:32 |
| Orrin_Fox | well, if i can install it without needing to go into the desktop then i suppose it could work | 03:33 |
| Orrin_Fox | i can start a terminal session | 03:33 |
| kanliot | why can't you get into ubuntu? | 03:33 |
| kanliot | it should work | 03:33 |
| tony_ | so you are on another computer? | 03:33 |
| kanliot | really | 03:33 |
| kanliot | just horribly slow... | 03:33 |
| Orrin_Fox | yeah im on another computer | 03:33 |
| kanliot | well anyhow | 03:34 |
| kanliot | try it out | 03:34 |
| kanliot | should take about 100MB of downloads or so | 03:34 |
| kanliot | mebbe more | 03:34 |
| Orrin_Fox | I happen to have an iso on me actually | 03:34 |
| tony_ | when the logon screen comes up, press Ctrl + Alt + F2 and login and type sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop | 03:34 |
| Orrin_Fox | alright, yeah i can do it from the terminal | 03:34 |
| tony_ | Lubuntu should work for you | 03:35 |
| Orrin_Fox | alright, i was just wanting some second opinions on how well it would work. | 03:35 |
| kanliot | xxxterm | 03:36 |
| kanliot | actually if you really need performance | 03:36 |
| kanliot | it would be better to install from scratch | 03:36 |
| kanliot | but i donno why ubuuntu isn't working now | 03:36 |
| kanliot | it should start up | 03:37 |
| Orrin_Fox | that was what i was thinking.. actually | 03:37 |
| kanliot | for example | 03:37 |
| Orrin_Fox | its seeming as if theres not enough ram to load it | 03:37 |
| Orrin_Fox | i mean it shows up | 03:37 |
| kanliot | you get the unity bar? | 03:37 |
| Orrin_Fox | but, the side bar wont come up or anything | 03:37 |
| Orrin_Fox | no | 03:37 |
| kanliot | it just doesn't respond | 03:37 |
| kanliot | hm | 03:37 |
| kanliot | it should if you let it sit for 2 minutes | 03:37 |
| Orrin_Fox | seems *maybe* to be a ram issue | 03:37 |
| kanliot | but i can only guess | 03:38 |
| Orrin_Fox | yeah this sat for.. 10 some odd minutes | 03:38 |
| kanliot | how much swap space? | 03:38 |
| Orrin_Fox | oh im not sure i wasnt able to get into the terminal, it locked up | 03:38 |
| tony_ | once you get lubuntu-desktop working, you might wanna disable some unnecessary daemons that are using RAM | 03:38 |
| Orrin_Fox | yeah | 03:38 |
| kanliot | did you ctrl+alt+f2? | 03:39 |
| Orrin_Fox | yeah | 03:39 |
| kanliot | are you running livecd? | 03:39 |
| kanliot | or idd you already install? | 03:39 |
| Orrin_Fox | no i installed it | 03:39 |
| tony_ | ok ctrl alt f7 | 03:39 |
| Orrin_Fox | well, i dont have that option right now. as its not running | 03:39 |
| tony_ | ok. sudo reboot -h now | 03:40 |
| Orrin_Fox | mhm | 03:40 |
| tony_ | how much hdd space on that? | 03:42 |
| kanliot | anyhow Orrin_Fox you can install lubuntu, especially with the alternate installer | 03:42 |
| kanliot | it installs and runs great on 128mb | 03:42 |
| Orrin_Fox | yeah, i downloaded the mini installer | 03:42 |
| Orrin_Fox | And i have two HDs so, space isnt too much an issue | 03:43 |
| holstein | the alternate text based installer.. im not sure how "mini" it is | 03:43 |
| Orrin_Fox | yeah, true, ill just have to see how it goes | 03:43 |
| kanliot | mini installer isn't for new usersd | 03:44 |
| kanliot | alternate installer is | 03:44 |
| kanliot | if it takes you an hour to get the 12.04 alt installer, it's time well spent | 03:44 |
| kanliot | https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/AlternateInstall | 03:45 |
| kanliot | ^instructions | 03:46 |
| Orrin_Fox | im there | 03:46 |
| kanliot | am i wrong guys? I don't remember the mini iso being easy to use | 03:46 |
| Unit193 | It isn't hard. | 03:47 |
| kanliot | ok maybe i'm off base | 03:48 |
| holstein | you'll need to download the desktop at some point though | 03:48 |
| Unit193 | Yeah, I wouldn't say you download less, just at a different time. | 03:48 |
| Unit193 | (Though, you wouldn't have a ton of updates later to do as well) | 03:48 |
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| toscho | hello | 18:16 |
| toscho | my autostart entrys don't always work | 18:16 |
| holstein | toscho: in what case are the working and when are they failing | 18:17 |
| toscho | can someon help me fix them | 18:17 |
| toscho | I have added two lines to ~/.config/lxsession/autostart | 18:18 |
| toscho | if i start the laptop from cold they are most often ignored | 18:18 |
| toscho | if i kill x via ctrl-del-backspace, they work | 18:18 |
| holstein | toscho: what are "they".. maybe you just need to add a little delay in | 18:19 |
| toscho | @xmodmap -e "keycode 166=Home" | 18:19 |
| toscho | @xmodmap -e "keycode 167=End" | 18:19 |
| holstein | toscho: i would try a delay | 18:27 |
| toscho | how to? | 18:28 |
| holstein | i would read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1152099 | 18:29 |
| holstein | seems like adding the sleep command should add delay | 18:29 |
| toscho | thx, i will try | 18:31 |
| toscho | thx holstein, it worked | 18:52 |
| holstein | toscho: COOL! enjoy :) | 19:07 |
| battlehands | can someone point me towards a latex friendly lubuntu editor | 23:23 |
| wxl | battlehands: yes! vi ;) | 23:30 |
| wxl | gvim if you need a gui | 23:31 |
| battlehands | Im already in the process of installing texmaker or something like that | 23:31 |
| wxl | there's latex-suite | 23:31 |
| battlehands | hoepfully this one has some preset templates that I can use. | 23:31 |
| wxl | ↑ for vi/vim/gvim | 23:31 |
| wxl | if you're not already used to (g)vi(m) tho prolly not best | 23:32 |
| wxl | there's also lyx and texmacs | 23:32 |
| wxl | haven't used any but vi | 23:32 |
| wxl | also ppl use emacs too | 23:32 |
| wxl | there's gedit but technically that will pull in some other gnome crap | 23:34 |
| wxl | lyx and texmacs are wysiwig which is not how i usually do latex. not how a lot of ppl do. | 23:35 |
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