[00:05] bkm, I haven`t tried chromium [00:06] I`m on the ppc iso where Firefox is default browser [00:06] interesting! [00:07] bkm, does the flash bundle alternative work fine with chromium [00:07] no [00:07] not for me [00:07] pepper api or something like that [00:07] I hope they keep working on that [00:07] it is too new to run smooth on all setups I suppose [00:08] haven't figured out how to make it work, so i'm not one to ask. everything seems to blow up (or consume all of the limited resources) as far as i can tell [00:09] I keep getting conflicting info about the papi, they have already abandoned it, or they are still working on it [00:09] bkm, what kind of computer do you have? [00:10] 900 mhz; 512 ram pc [00:10] which is not too bad [00:11] however flash is the most difficult thing on low specs [00:11] seems to be [00:11] trick is to find workarounds [00:11] and run one application at a time when streaming any video [00:12] have you found anything that works? [00:12] i followed a hack of placing the adobe version in place of the whatever version, and that hack worked for a long time [00:13] now it does not seem to. something has changed [00:13] if it streamed smoothly it should though [00:14] adobe hardly streams smooth with less than 1.5GHz [00:14] it does depend a bit upon the cpu though [00:14] a weird problem is that worldcat.org tries to tell me what libraries hold a certain book, but with chromium, the libraries never show up. i'm not sure why [00:15] later chrome versions work as does firefox [00:15] i'm not sure what is happening on that website [00:17] anything I can test+ [00:18] ? [00:18] I`m not registered thre [02:08] hi [02:08] I am troubleshooting totem and mplayer plugins [03:03] sup [03:17] hey there [03:17] hello [03:19] morning [03:20] I was wondering if i could have some advice on how well lubuntu would work on my desktop, I love ubuntu but.. well it doesnt work well on my desktop [03:21] what's wrong with ubuntu? [03:22] Ubuntu standard appears to lag upon entering the desktop (KDE) [03:22] I tried Gnome, almost similar [03:23] I happened to hear around the corner that lubuntu could handle the lighter-capable computers [03:24] lubuntu is a lot faster [03:25] how well would you say it could respond on 256MB ram? [03:26] nearly as well as windows xp [03:26] the minimum RAM to install Lubuntu is 256 MB [03:26] which is good [03:26] cool [03:26] yeah windows XP was on this previously [03:26] just don't open 5 tabs in chromium [03:26] it will be slow [03:26] lol yeah [03:26] try firefox or xxxterm [03:27] if you get it intstalled [03:27] please post your results [03:27] we like to hear positive stuff [03:27] oh yeah, so far ubuntu hasnt really given me any problems [03:28] i'm testing 12.10 [03:28] not there yet :) [03:29] ah thats cool [03:29] actually [03:29] if you are lazy [03:29] you can just install lubuntu-desktop on top of ubuntu [03:29] and i think you are [03:30] well, i would overall just get an iso and throw it on the drive [03:31] you wouldn't even have to reboot [03:31] it would be a lot faster to do it like he said [03:31] to use lubuntu [03:31] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/UpgradeToLubuntu [03:31] but, if ubuntu wont even fully start up.. i would be able to work lubuntu onto it? [03:32] uh [03:32] please be specific about yer problem [03:32] i can't guess [03:32] once you get to the logon screen you can choose lubuntu [03:33] well, if i can install it without needing to go into the desktop then i suppose it could work [03:33] i can start a terminal session [03:33] why can't you get into ubuntu? [03:33] it should work [03:33] so you are on another computer? [03:33] really [03:33] just horribly slow... [03:33] yeah im on another computer [03:34] well anyhow [03:34] try it out [03:34] should take about 100MB of downloads or so [03:34] mebbe more [03:34] I happen to have an iso on me actually [03:34] when the logon screen comes up, press Ctrl + Alt + F2 and login and type sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop [03:34] alright, yeah i can do it from the terminal [03:35] Lubuntu should work for you [03:35] alright, i was just wanting some second opinions on how well it would work. [03:36] xxxterm [03:36] actually if you really need performance [03:36] it would be better to install from scratch [03:36] but i donno why ubuuntu isn't working now [03:37] it should start up [03:37] that was what i was thinking.. actually [03:37] for example [03:37] its seeming as if theres not enough ram to load it [03:37] i mean it shows up [03:37] you get the unity bar? [03:37] but, the side bar wont come up or anything [03:37] no [03:37] it just doesn't respond [03:37] hm [03:37] it should if you let it sit for 2 minutes [03:37] seems *maybe* to be a ram issue [03:38] but i can only guess [03:38] yeah this sat for.. 10 some odd minutes [03:38] how much swap space? [03:38] oh im not sure i wasnt able to get into the terminal, it locked up [03:38] once you get lubuntu-desktop working, you might wanna disable some unnecessary daemons that are using RAM [03:38] yeah [03:39] did you ctrl+alt+f2? [03:39] yeah [03:39] are you running livecd? [03:39] or idd you already install? [03:39] no i installed it [03:39] ok ctrl alt f7 [03:39] well, i dont have that option right now. as its not running [03:40] ok. sudo reboot -h now [03:40] mhm [03:42] how much hdd space on that? [03:42] anyhow Orrin_Fox you can install lubuntu, especially with the alternate installer [03:42] it installs and runs great on 128mb [03:42] yeah, i downloaded the mini installer [03:43] And i have two HDs so, space isnt too much an issue [03:43] the alternate text based installer.. im not sure how "mini" it is [03:43] yeah, true, ill just have to see how it goes [03:44] mini installer isn't for new usersd [03:44] alternate installer is [03:44] if it takes you an hour to get the 12.04 alt installer, it's time well spent [03:45] https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Lubuntu/Documentation/AlternateInstall [03:46] ^instructions [03:46] im there [03:46] am i wrong guys? I don't remember the mini iso being easy to use [03:47] It isn't hard. [03:48] ok maybe i'm off base [03:48] you'll need to download the desktop at some point though [03:48] Yeah, I wouldn't say you download less, just at a different time. [03:48] (Though, you wouldn't have a ton of updates later to do as well) === TheDrums is now known as Guest38162 === nothingspecial is now known as Not === Not is now known as nothingspecial [18:16] hello [18:16] my autostart entrys don't always work [18:17] toscho: in what case are the working and when are they failing [18:17] can someon help me fix them [18:18] I have added two lines to ~/.config/lxsession/autostart [18:18] if i start the laptop from cold they are most often ignored [18:18] if i kill x via ctrl-del-backspace, they work [18:19] toscho: what are "they".. maybe you just need to add a little delay in [18:19] @xmodmap -e "keycode 166=Home" [18:19] @xmodmap -e "keycode 167=End" [18:27] toscho: i would try a delay [18:28] how to? [18:29] i would read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1152099 [18:29] seems like adding the sleep command should add delay [18:31] thx, i will try [18:52] thx holstein, it worked [19:07] toscho: COOL! enjoy :) [23:23] can someone point me towards a latex friendly lubuntu editor [23:30] battlehands: yes! vi ;) [23:31] gvim if you need a gui [23:31] Im already in the process of installing texmaker or something like that [23:31] there's latex-suite [23:31] hoepfully this one has some preset templates that I can use. [23:31] ↑ for vi/vim/gvim [23:32] if you're not already used to (g)vi(m) tho prolly not best [23:32] there's also lyx and texmacs [23:32] haven't used any but vi [23:32] also ppl use emacs too [23:34] there's gedit but technically that will pull in some other gnome crap [23:35] lyx and texmacs are wysiwig which is not how i usually do latex. not how a lot of ppl do.