[00:12] <cjohnston> http://ifunny.mobi/iJ5HyeoBO#J5HyeoBO
[01:27] <jono> balloons, can you let me edit the presentation?
[01:27] <balloons> bien sir mon ami
[01:27] <balloons> je suis desole
[01:27] <balloons> wait.. it says you can
[01:27] <balloons> lol
[01:28] <jono> odd
[01:28]  * balloons wasn't an idiot
[01:28] <jono> oh cool
[01:28]  * jono was
[01:28] <jono> :-)
[01:28] <balloons> lol
[01:29] <balloons> k -- I'll be about if you have any questions
[01:32] <jono> thanks, man!
[02:04] <cprofitt> night all
[02:04] <cjohnston> night cp
[07:01] <dholbach> good morning
[07:08] <elfy> morning
[07:14] <dholbach> hi elfy
[08:42] <czajkowski> http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/resources/case-studies/capgemini-bpo-deploys-hybrid-thin-client-solution-ubuntu-adva  folks might find this an intersting read
[14:37] <dholbach> for a demo I wanted to set my shell environment to english - I thought "export LC_ALL=C" would suffice - it seems it doesn't - does somebody know how I can do it?
[14:38] <dholbach> it seems like in my session settings I have English at the top of the list as well but it doesn't seem to work either
[14:38] <dholbach> hum
[14:39] <popey> dholbach, export LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8  ?
[14:39] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~$ export LC_ALL=en_GB.UTF-8
[14:39] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~$ LC_ALL=C bzr branch bla
[14:39] <dholbach> bzr: ERROR: Kein Zweig: »/home/daniel/bla/«.
[14:39] <dholbach> daniel@daydream:~$
[14:39] <dholbach> ah sorry
[14:39] <dholbach> still same output without the LC_ALL=C
[14:43] <tsimpson> try LANG=C
[14:45] <dholbach> still no dice
[14:45] <dholbach> also tried to set LANGUAGE
[14:45] <dholbach> I'll make do somehow
[14:45] <dholbach> :)
[14:59] <dpm> dholbach, perhaps setting LC_MESSAGES directly might help, but in general, bzr should be in English with LC_ALL=C , I'm also a bit puzzled
[15:05] <mhall119> dholbach: where is the hangout being broadcast?
[15:05] <mhall119> no link from your blog :(
[15:11] <cjohnston> AlanBell: ping
[15:52] <AlanBell> hi cjohnston
[15:52] <cjohnston> AlanBell: is there anything to worry about with upgrading the server that etherpad is on to precise
[15:53] <AlanBell> should all be fine, I have run it on precise
[15:54] <cjohnston> any update on etherpad-lite?
[15:55] <jcastro> we have a charm for that!
[15:55] <cjohnston> blah
[15:56] <AlanBell> I will check what the current status of it is
[15:57] <AlanBell> jcastro: what is the story with charms when you want to tweak an installation? like add a theme or plugin or hack some files
[15:57] <AlanBell> do you have to change the charm so that the changes get copied when you add a unit or something?
[15:58] <jcastro> ideally the charm handles user data
[15:58] <jcastro> so like, it sticks all that in VCS for you and repulls on new deployments
[15:59] <jcastro> but I would just modify a charm locally and keep that.
[15:59] <AlanBell> ok
[16:00] <jcastro> I think the ideal state is either the VCS thing or your "theme" or whatever is a subordinate charm of the main one
[16:00] <jcastro> so deploy wordpress, then $mystuff-wordpress on top of the generic one
[16:00] <dholbach> mhall119, I posted it on @ubuntudev accounts
[16:01] <mhall119> dholbach: do you have a few minutes before you end your day to talk to me about the ARB restaffing?
[16:01] <dholbach> yes
[16:03] <mhall119> hangouts hate me today
[16:03] <mhall119> dholbach: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/b075b62411e0fc4b78afe47a7cae9783328e8abf?authuser=0&hl=en
[16:58] <dholbach> have a great rest of your day everyone!
[18:41] <jcastro> pleia2, hey uh ....
[18:41] <jcastro> is the meter on your blog right?
[18:45] <pleia2> jcastro: yeah, and I managed to reach my goal already (!)
[18:45] <jcastro> wow
[18:45] <jcastro> that is _awesome_
[18:45] <pleia2> people are amazing :)
[18:46] <jcastro> like, I had no doubt you'd eventually reach the goal
[18:47] <jcastro> just not like in 3 hours, hahaha
[18:47] <jcastro> Dang, maybe I should ask for a new BBQ on the internet
[18:48] <snap-l> jcastro: pleia2's intentions are altruistic. The internet is not some "The Secret" proxy. ;)
[18:49] <snap-l> That said, if you are successful, please also ask the Internet for whatever is on my Amazon Wishlist.
[18:49] <snap-l> especially the 60" gong.
[18:50] <jcastro> yeah me too!
[18:51] <snap-l> http://www.gongs-unlimited.com/pasygo60.html
[18:51] <pleia2> lol
[19:17] <mhall119> jcastro: can you reddit http://mhall119.com/2012/09/looking-for-a-few-good-devs/ please
[19:17] <jcastro> yep, one sec
[19:17] <mhall119> thanks
[19:18]  * mhall119 is kind of ashamed to admit how much time he spent on that image
[19:21] <jcastro> http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/zq29s/looking_for_a_few_good_devs/
[19:22] <mhall119> thanks jcastro
[19:25] <jcastro> hey mhall119
[19:25] <jcastro> so other than non-voting
[19:25] <jcastro> a helper can totally help with the backlog right?
[19:26] <jcastro> so basically, rule out all the simple fixes, and so on
[19:26] <jcastro> so by the time it hits an ARB person ... it could just be all ready to go?
[19:26] <mhall119> jcastro: yes indeed
[19:26] <jcastro> excellent
[19:26] <mhall119> that's what we tried to do for all the showdown apps
[19:27] <jcastro> and is this something that will happen or can say, someone do it right now today?
[19:27] <bkerensa> jcastro: is Jono in Portland for the sprint?
[19:27] <jcastro> yeah
[19:27] <bkerensa> LOL
[19:27] <bkerensa> ok
[19:28] <bkerensa> I thought it might just be Engineering Managers
[19:28] <mhall119> technically he is
[19:28] <nigelb> Social Engineering Manager ;)
[19:28] <nigelb> s/Social/Community/g
[19:29] <mhall119> jcastro: arb helpers are already active
[19:30] <jcastro> bkerensa, jono's an engineering manager
[19:30] <jcastro> mhall119, ok so this whole time we could have been asking people to help? I didn't know that lol
[19:31] <mhall119> jcastro: we *have* been asking people to help
[19:31] <mhall119> dpm, dholbach and I
[19:31] <jcastro> ok good, now everyone knows
[19:32] <mhall119> jcastro: it was announced back in July
[19:32] <mhall119> http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/07/the-ubuntu-app-showdown-review-is-in-full-swing/
[19:33] <mhall119> and again in http://developer.ubuntu.com/2012/07/the-ubuntu-app-showdown-followup-reviews/
[19:33] <jcastro> yeah but I've never heard of an effort to grow the reviewers
[19:33] <jcastro> (until the thing you just posted)
[19:34] <jcastro> marcoceppi, did you know you could review apps as a non-ubuntu developer?
[19:34] <marcoceppi> jcastro: I had no idea
[19:34]  * marcoceppi reads mhall119's link
[19:35] <jcastro> maybe we've been isolated in charmland
[19:35] <jcastro> land of ice cream cones and unicorns
[19:35] <mhall119> yeah, you too spend too much time with your heads in the clouds
[19:35] <mhall119> two
[19:36] <mhall119> dholbach has been recruiting people to help since June
[19:36] <jcastro> well, either way
[19:36] <jcastro> knowing people can help the backlog is huge
[19:36] <mhall119> yeah, please spread the word
[19:36] <mhall119> also, anybody you know who could serve on the ARB itself
[19:40] <jcastro> yeah, my problem is to be on the ARB you need to be an ubuntu developer
[19:40] <jcastro> and every ubuntu developer I know is already busy
[19:41] <jcastro> however, ARB _helpers_ I can help find no problem
[19:43] <czajkowski> they did get some ARB folks after the competition but there was too many to review going by the last meetin gwith the ARB last week
[19:43] <czajkowski> and many could only offer 5 hrs a week which is great but that didnt help the back log
[19:46] <jcastro> mhall119, having a hard time G+ing your blog post, the instance isn't pegged from reddit is it?
[19:49] <bkerensa> mhall119: Your post suggests people join #ubuntu-arb but don't they need to be on the ARB or a Developer with upload rights to do reviews?
[19:57] <mhall119> bkerensa: no, they can review the package and help with fixes, they just can't vote
[19:58] <bkerensa> ahh
[19:58] <mhall119> jcastro: yes, my little m1.tiny is being throttled by Amazon at the moment
[19:58] <bkerensa> heh
[19:59] <mhall119> czajkowski is right, we got about 10 people helping the ARB, that let us get all 140+ apps reviewed once
[19:59] <mhall119> since then it's tappered off
[19:59] <czajkowski> mhall119: I wasn't making it up ya know :p
[20:00] <mhall119> *I* know that
[20:00] <mhall119> I was providing some extra detail
[20:02] <mhall119> jcastro: how's got the best cloud hosting prices these days?
[20:03] <mhall119> I need something about the size of an m1.tiny, but without the stupid throttling
[20:04] <bkerensa> jcastro: http://awesomescreenshot.com/0d2fr4sbf <-- best cloud hosting platform ever maybe?
[20:04] <bkerensa> :)
[20:04] <bkerensa> They gave me a comp account so I can spawn up servers on every cloud provider :D
[20:06] <marcoceppi> mhall119: maybe linode?
[20:07] <bkerensa> how bizarre someone put a url to a bug in the source for one.ubuntu.com
[20:33] <jcastro> mhall119, http://www.cloudorado.com/
[20:33] <jcastro> in the past I've used linode for small things like a blog, etc.
[20:33] <jcastro> they are really awesome folks, take care of their customers, etc.
[20:45] <snap-l> I <3 Linode
[20:45] <snap-l> Have had no problems with them
[20:45] <snap-l> Good for having a virtual box out there on the net.