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arosalesDaviey:  are you chairing todays meeting?16:01
Davieyerr, am i on point?16:03
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Daviey#TOPIC Review ACTION points from previous meeting16:04
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Davieysmoser follow up on bug 102845316:04
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1028453 in livecd-rootfs (Ubuntu) "Quantal Ubuntu Server minimal install oversized" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102845316:04
Davieyjamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports16:04
DavieyMr Page?16:05
jamespagestill thinking about that one - I think we should probably just use the release team report - but it lacks MIR and other team tracking16:05
Davieyjamespage: OK, i missed this action.  Can we organise an audio chat with interetsed people to gauge outcomes?16:05
Daviey#TOPIC Quantal Development16:06
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Davieyjamespage or smoser, want to take release-bugs.html?16:06
jamespageill do it16:06
jamespageonly a few things on this report now.16:07
jamespagebug 102432616:07
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1024326 in horizon (Ubuntu) "node.js is required for access to the dashboard" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/102432616:07
adam_gi committed a new fix for that last night. much simpler and cleaner16:07
adam_gso, with the next upload it should be fixed. i'd like to find a way to integrate the build steps into package build, tho16:07
smoseradam_g, link?16:08
smoserah. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/horizon/precise-folsom-proposed/revision/10316:08
zulhi ho16:08
Davieyjamespage: is the breadth of the report accurate, i haven't added anything myself for ages16:08
jamespagesee action above about release tracking bugs16:09
jamespagehallyn: bug 104003316:09
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1040033 in qemu-kvm (Ubuntu Quantal) "Fresh VM installs via preseeded oneiric isos sometimes fail with filesystem issues" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104003316:09
jamespageah - I see last comment says HEAD fixes stuff - guess you just need to narrow things down16:10
jamespageand from http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html16:10
jamespageivoks has a really old bug assigned - bug 67106516:11
ubottuLaunchpad bug 671065 in dovecot (Ubuntu Quantal) "deliver broken because dovecot.conf uses !include_try" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/67106516:11
jamespagehmm - not in channel - I'll followup - need to pester him for test cases anyway16:11
jamespagewe have a load of undecided bugs for maas and juju  - which at least need a priority setting.16:12
jamespagemy recommendation would be to drop the quantal tasks for the time being; that way the bug stays around - but we are not commiting to fix it for quantal unless we raise the tasks....16:12
jamespagesmoser, can you and roaksoax review the maas ones - I'll pickup the juju ones with SpamapS16:13
jamespagethats be done on release bugs....16:13
jamespageof note anyway :-)16:14
Davieyany extra ones that should be added?16:14
smoserjamespage, will do.16:14
Davieysmoser: do you want to go through http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html ?16:14
jimbakerfwiw, i think we have been doing a good effort on closing out the juju bugs, led by SpamapS16:14
jamespagejimbaker, +1 to that - there are just alot hanging around from last cycles MIR review16:15
smosersure. i'll go through.16:15
smoseri'll just hit red ones.16:16
smoserjamespage, ?16:16
smoserany comment on servercloud-q-opensetack-qa16:16
arosalesis zul on point for servercloud-q-openstack-qa16:16
smoserah. sorry. zul16:16
smoseryes. i see that. thakn you arosales16:16
Davieyzul is acridness to the WI, but in reality jamespage and adam_g have had a significant influence16:17
Davieyerr, "according to"*  .. damn dictionary16:17
zuli had to look up that word16:17
smoserfun... well anyone want to talk to that ?16:17
smoserits behind.16:18
Davieyprimarily, reporting on upsteam gerrit.. pre-merge.. adam_g / jamespage ?16:18
jamespageI'll have to defer to adam_g - my involvement this cycle has been mainly doing password resets for zul16:19
smoserlets move on.16:19
smoseradam_g, zul, please take al ook at that today.16:19
adam_gDaviey: i have the majority of htat that work done16:19
smosertalk amoungst yourselves.16:19
adam_gjust need to implement it live on the cluster. was preparing to do that a few weeks ago when i was hijacked with other things16:19
smoserthat seems more SpamapS per this group16:20
smoseri belive there is more progress there than shown16:20
smoseri'll speak for rbasak on that. he has made considerable progress on it.16:21
smoserand the work remaining seems to be known16:21
SpamapSsmoser: I'd have to poll everybody listed there. but in general that effort has been going slower than expected16:22
smoserSpamapS, thank you16:22
smoserplease do try to get it into some sort of more current state (if that includes POSTPONE)16:22
SpamapSI'll poke a few of them though, I see a coupel WI's that have been half-done for a while16:23
smoserzul, you're most of those. ddoes that look reasonable?16:23
* smoser will get my 2 updated on that.16:23
zulyeah more of it will be "DONE" as we get cloesr to release16:23
smoseri'll poke around, but my feeling is public glance is POSTPONED16:23
Davieyzul: when will nova for folsom for example, be marked DONE?16:23
Davieysmoser: lets discuss that after16:24
zulill update the spec16:24
smoserthere are  a bunch of people listed on tasks there, but jamespage name on the item.16:25
jamespagesmoser, that should catchup this week16:25
jamespageI'm gonna pester jibel about upgrade testing.... and ivoks for mail stuff16:25
smoserroaksoax, i'm assuming that powernap needs to go to POSTPONED16:26
smoseri'll follow up with roaksoax16:26
DavieyUrsinha: ^ ?16:27
smoserjamespage, ^ you again16:27
smoseror Ursinha16:27
DavieyJames page is all done on that blueprint.16:27
jamespageyeah - again I'll followup with Ursinha (I keep forgetting and its my blueprint)16:27
smoserk. moving on.16:27
smoserroaksoax, ^ ?16:28
smoserthere is a bunch of work to do there.16:28
smoseri'll speak to it.16:28
smoserthat is "Essential" and will be accomplished to a satisfactory end.16:28
Davieynothing like a satisfactory ending16:29
smoserservercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy16:29
roaksoaxsmoser: there are a couple bugs need to be addressed and other but currently blocked too due to16:29
roaksoaxnot having quantal support16:29
smoserSpamapS, that looks like yours. is there updates there?16:30
smoserservercloud-q-openstack-ha https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha16:30
SpamapSsmoser: the two TODO's are still valid, and have to be completed this cycle.16:30
smoserSpamapS, thank you.16:30
smoserroaksoax, you're next there. ... i'm uguessing that one can stand some updates.16:31
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smoserservercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests16:31
Daviey"juju charms for DRBD (adam_g says it is impossible, SpampS seems it is possible): TODO" resolved?16:31
zuli think we need a steel cage for that one16:31
SpamapSwe never have worked on it16:31
SpamapSbut yeah I still believe its possible :)16:32
adam_gSpamapS: go for it!16:32
roaksoaxsmoser: since I have been concentrated on maas the last two weeks I couldn't really advance any work on the HA stuff. But there are updates that need to be considered and will catch up with zul /adam_g as it relates to ha specific stuff for openstack16:32
Davieysmoser: do you have capacity to prove us all wrong?16:32
smoserroaksoax, gracias.16:32
smoseri want no part of the SpamapS adam_g steel cage16:32
SpamapSdrbd seems so old fashioned.. don't people just do RAID1 across volumes these days?16:32
smoseralright. i think that is enough there.16:33
adam_g drbd is basically distributed raid116:33
* SpamapS would promise not to use his roundhouse16:33
smoserplease do take a bit of time today and make sure your blueprints represent their actual state.16:33
smoserand remember that we're past beta1, and there is not much time remaining.16:34
smoserand miles to go before i sleep.16:34
smoserlets move on.16:34
Davieythank you Mr Moser.16:34
Daviey#TOPIC Ubuntu Server Team Events16:34
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smoseryou are most welcome.16:34
DavieyCFP Submissions: SoCal Linux Expo (Deadline: Dec. 10) http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/cfp16:35
DavieyAnyone else travelling soon?16:35
DavieyOpenStack Conference, San Diego, Oct 15-18, 2012 .. number of us going.16:35
DavieyUDS, Copenhagen, Denmark , 29th Oct – 1st Nov 201216:36
DavieyAnything else?16:36
Daviey#TOPIC Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)16:36
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DavieyGreat to see we got Beta-1 out in reasonable shape, what is the plans between now and the next milestone for enrichment in testing?16:37
DavieyNobody from QA here?16:37
arosalesbtw, for events Surge is also coming up on Sept 27, and jimbaker is giving  a Big Data meetup preso on Sept 19.16:38
DavieyOkay, lets move frustratedly on.16:39
Daviey[TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)16:39
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Davieyand no smb.16:39
Davieyogasawara: anyone from kernel here?16:39
Daviey[TOPiC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)16:41
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arosalesrbask is on holiday16:41
jamespagerbasak on holiday16:41
DavieyPlease, can someone cover this, before i shoot myself?16:41
arosalesI think he synced up with smoser though16:41
Davieysmoser: ^?16:41
arosaleswe are working on adding in ARM support int MAAS16:42
arosalesthat is the main effort16:42
Davieyanything else of note16:42
smoserrbasak has made considerable and impressive progresses on maas and arm.16:42
smoserthe ephemeral images were giving him pai, but he has hacked his way around that, and my reproduction of that has lead me to chasing some other issues in those images.16:43
Davieysmoser: does it work with panda?16:43
smoserbug 103106516:43
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1031065 in cloud-init (Ubuntu) "cloud-init-nonet runs 'start networking' explicitly" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/103106516:43
smoseri do not believe it works with panda16:43
Davieywhat about qemu-system-arm-highbank ?16:43
smoseralso, of interesting work there, dannf reportably can make things work with qemu-system-arm16:43
Davieyqemu-system-arm -M highbank*16:44
smoserping him for more info there.16:44
Davieythat should be good in the archive now16:44
DavieyThe blocker for me, was a devicetree which is now fixed16:44
smoserlast i spoke to him on it, he had a kernel that would boot, but the latest highbank kernel for precise would not.16:44
Davieyokay, thanks smoser16:45
smoserbut yeah, haivng some sort of qemu functional would be huge.16:45
Davieymoving on?16:45
Daviey#TOPIC Open Discussion16:45
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smoserand ideally that can be booted with cloud images and cloud-localds16:45
ogra_omap works pretty well16:45
ogra_(but limited to 512M indeed)16:45
Davieyogra_: might want to grab you to help polish this stuff :)16:46
ogra_feel free16:46
Davieyogra_: Would like to do a PXE boot via system-arm.. which might be interesting16:46
SpamapSDunno if this was brought up in the bugs discussion, but Juju is a bit broken in quantal right now16:46
DavieySpamapS: oh?16:47
SpamapSThere's a regression in python that hit yesterday, bug 104871016:47
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1048710 in python3.2 (Ubuntu) "Regression in argparse for Python 2.7, 3.2 and 3.3" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104871016:47
SpamapSBarry Warsaw is on it16:47
ogra_Daviey, qemu can boot our images out of the box (including the whole bootloader bits) so that shouldnt be any prob16:47
SpamapSIts pretty serious as it breaks the argparsing for all of juju's cli utilities16:47
* Daviey ads it to tracking16:48
SpamapSanyway, I'm sure it will be resolved soon, but just a heads up that you may need to downgrade python2.7 if you want to have a working juju on quantal16:48
SpamapSDaviey: in case that bug does not fix it, there's also a juju bug, bug #1048864 , that is worth tracking16:48
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1048864 in juju (Ubuntu Quantal) "Latest python in quantal breaks juju test suite" [Critical,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104886416:48
DavieySpamapS: juju/precise archive + jitsu... Is it possible?16:49
SpamapSDaviey: it may end up being duped to 1048710 .. we'll see16:49
jamespageSpamapS, thats on the release bugs list (both of them)16:49
SpamapSDaviey: we can put juju-jitsu in backports16:49
SpamapSjamespage: right, because I targetted at quantal16:49
DavieySpamapS: but does it work?16:49
SpamapSDaviey: It should. popey was looking at it.16:49
DavieySpamapS: he pinged me otherwise this morning :(16:50
SpamapSDaviey: bummer. Ok, we'll have to dive into that16:50
DavieyAnything else?16:50
SpamapSDaviey: wild thing, I think you move me.16:51
Daviey#TOPIC Announce next meeting date and time16:51
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Daviey18th, same time, same place16:51
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Sep 11 16:51:41 2012 UTC.16:51
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DavieyThanks all!16:51
meetingologyMeeting started Tue Sep 11 17:00:32 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.17:00
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jsalisbury## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.17:00
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting17:00
jsalisbury[LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal17:00
jsalisbury# Meeting Etiquette17:00
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jsalisburyRoll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting17:00
jsalisbury[TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)17:01
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jsalisburyNo update this week.17:01
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)17:02
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jsalisburyRelease metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:17:02
jsalisbury[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)17:02
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jsalisbury[TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)17:02
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jsalisbury|| apw       || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item  ||17:02
jsalisbury||           || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 3 work items ||17:02
jsalisbury||           || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||17:02
jsalisbury||           || desktop-q-clean-old-kernels     || 1 work item  ||17:02
jsalisbury|| ogasawara || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 4 work items ||17:02
jsalisbury|| tgardner  || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||17:02
jsalisburyIf your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-2 work items.17:02
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)17:02
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jsalisburyWe have uploaded the 3.5.0-14.16 Quantal kernel.  This upload contains17:03
jsalisburyupdates for the mei driver, resolves misc touchpad regressions, and17:03
jsalisburyincludes misc bug fixes for the apple-gmux driver.  This will also be17:03
jsalisburyuploaded to the q-lts-backport [1] PPA to help facilitate testing of the17:03
jsalisbury12.10 kernel in 12.04.  We welcome anyone to please install, test, and17:03
jsalisburylet us know your feedback.17:03
jsalisbury[1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport17:03
jsalisburyImportant upcoming dates:17:03
jsalisbury * Thurs Sept 20 - Beta 2 Freeze (~1 week)17:03
jsalisbury * Thurs Sept 27 - Beta 2 (~2 weeks)17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)17:03
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sconklin== 2012-09-11 (weekly) ==17:03
sconklinCurrently we have 75 CVEs on our radar, with two CVEs added and two CVEs retired this week.17:03
sconklinSee the CVE matrix for the current list:17:03
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html17:03
sconklinOverall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:17:03
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt17:03
sconklin[LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt17:03
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)17:03
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henrixHere is the status for the main kernels, until today (September 11):17:03
henrix * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle17:03
henrix * Lucid - In Testing; 3 CVEs; (9 commits)17:03
henrix * Natty - In Testing; 4 CVEs; (9 commits)17:03
henrix * Oneiric - In Testing; 2 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (67 commits)17:03
henrix * Precise - In Verification; 2 CVEs; 1 upstream stable release(s); (66 commits)17:04
henrixCurrent opened tracking bugs details:17:04
henrix * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html17:04
henrixFor SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:17:04
henrix * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html17:04
henrixFuture stable cadence cycles:17:04
henrix * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock17:04
henrixNOTE: this is the *last* Natty kernel being built.17:04
jsalisbury[TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)17:04
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jsalisburyThanks everyone17:05
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meetingologyMeeting ended Tue Sep 11 17:05:02 2012 UTC.17:05
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ckingthanks jsalisbury17:05
kamalthanks jsalisbury17:05
sconklinthanks jsalisbury17:05
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