[15:59] <jamespage> o/
[16:00] <smoser> o./
[16:00] <Daviey> o/
[16:01] <arosales> o/
[16:01] <arosales> Daviey:  are you chairing todays meeting?
[16:03] <Daviey> err, am i on point?
[16:03] <Daviey> #startmeeting
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[16:04] <Daviey> #TOPIC Review ACTION points from previous meeting
[16:04] <Daviey> smoser follow up on bug 1028453
[16:04] <jamespage> fixed
[16:04] <Daviey> super
[16:04] <jamespage> \o/
[16:04] <Daviey> jamespage to look into aligning release team and server team trackign reports
[16:04] <smoser> woot
[16:04] <skaet> :)
[16:05] <Daviey> Mr Page?
[16:05] <jamespage> still thinking about that one - I think we should probably just use the release team report - but it lacks MIR and other team tracking
[16:05] <jamespage> c/f
[16:05] <Daviey> jamespage: OK, i missed this action.  Can we organise an audio chat with interetsed people to gauge outcomes?
[16:06] <jamespage> sure
[16:06] <Daviey> #TOPIC Quantal Development
[16:06] <Daviey> jamespage or smoser, want to take release-bugs.html?
[16:06] <jamespage> o.
[16:06] <jamespage> ill do it
[16:06] <jamespage> http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/ubuntu-server/release-bugs.html
[16:07] <jamespage> only a few things on this report now.
[16:07] <jamespage> bug 1024326
[16:07] <adam_g> i committed a new fix for that last night. much simpler and cleaner
[16:07] <adam_g> so, with the next upload it should be fixed. i'd like to find a way to integrate the build steps into package build, tho
[16:08] <smoser> adam_g, link?
[16:08] <smoser> ah. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~openstack-ubuntu-testing/horizon/precise-folsom-proposed/revision/103
[16:08] <zul> hi ho
[16:08] <Daviey> jamespage: is the breadth of the report accurate, i haven't added anything myself for ages
[16:09] <jamespage> see action above about release tracking bugs
[16:09] <jamespage> hallyn: bug 1040033
[16:10] <jamespage> ah - I see last comment says HEAD fixes stuff - guess you just need to narrow things down
[16:10] <jamespage> and from http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html
[16:11] <jamespage> ivoks has a really old bug assigned - bug 671065
[16:11] <jamespage> hmm - not in channel - I'll followup - need to pester him for test cases anyway
[16:12] <jamespage> we have a load of undecided bugs for maas and juju  - which at least need a priority setting.
[16:12] <jamespage> my recommendation would be to drop the quantal tasks for the time being; that way the bug stays around - but we are not commiting to fix it for quantal unless we raise the tasks....
[16:13] <jamespage> smoser, can you and roaksoax review the maas ones - I'll pickup the juju ones with SpamapS
[16:13] <jamespage> ...
[16:13] <jamespage> thats be done on release bugs....
[16:14] <jamespage> of note anyway :-)
[16:14] <Daviey> super
[16:14] <Daviey> any extra ones that should be added?
[16:14] <smoser> jamespage, will do.
[16:14] <Daviey> ok
[16:14] <Daviey> smoser: do you want to go through http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/group/topic-quantal-servercloud-overview.html ?
[16:14] <jimbaker> fwiw, i think we have been doing a good effort on closing out the juju bugs, led by SpamapS
[16:15] <jamespage> jimbaker, +1 to that - there are just alot hanging around from last cycles MIR review
[16:15] <smoser> sure. i'll go through.
[16:15] <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-qa
[16:16] <smoser> i'll just hit red ones.
[16:16] <smoser> jamespage, ?
[16:16] <jamespage> ?
[16:16] <smoser> any comment on servercloud-q-opensetack-qa
[16:16] <arosales> is zul on point for servercloud-q-openstack-qa
[16:16] <smoser> ah. sorry. zul
[16:16] <jamespage> yep
[16:16] <jamespage> :-)
[16:16] <zul> dah
[16:16] <smoser> yes. i see that. thakn you arosales
[16:17] <Daviey> zul is acridness to the WI, but in reality jamespage and adam_g have had a significant influence
[16:17] <Daviey> err, "according to"*  .. damn dictionary
[16:17] <zul> i had to look up that word
[16:17] <smoser> fun... well anyone want to talk to that ?
[16:18] <smoser> its behind.
[16:18] <Daviey> primarily, reporting on upsteam gerrit.. pre-merge.. adam_g / jamespage ?
[16:19] <jamespage> I'll have to defer to adam_g - my involvement this cycle has been mainly doing password resets for zul
[16:19] <smoser> ok.
[16:19] <smoser> lets move on.
[16:19] <smoser> adam_g, zul, please take al ook at that today.
[16:19] <adam_g> Daviey: i have the majority of htat that work done
[16:19] <smoser> talk amoungst yourselves.
[16:19] <adam_g> just need to implement it live on the cluster. was preparing to do that a few weeks ago when i was hijacked with other things
[16:20] <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-best-practices
[16:20] <smoser> that seems more SpamapS per this group
[16:20] <smoser> i belive there is more progress there than shown
[16:21] <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-arm-deployment
[16:21] <smoser> i'll speak for rbasak on that. he has made considerable progress on it.
[16:21] <smoser> and the work remaining seems to be known
[16:22] <SpamapS> smoser: I'd have to poll everybody listed there. but in general that effort has been going slower than expected
[16:22] <smoser> SpamapS, thank you
[16:22] <smoser> please do try to get it into some sort of more current state (if that includes POSTPONE)
[16:22] <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-folsom
[16:23] <SpamapS> I'll poke a few of them though, I see a coupel WI's that have been half-done for a while
[16:23] <smoser> zul, you're most of those. ddoes that look reasonable?
[16:23]  * smoser will get my 2 updated on that.
[16:23] <zul> yeah more of it will be "DONE" as we get cloesr to release
[16:23] <smoser> i'll poke around, but my feeling is public glance is POSTPONED
[16:23] <Daviey> zul: when will nova for folsom for example, be marked DONE?
[16:24] <Daviey> smoser: lets discuss that after
[16:24] <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-stable
[16:24] <smoser> zul?
[16:24] <zul> ill update the spec
[16:25] <smoser> gracias
[16:25] <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-server-iso-tests-review
[16:25] <smoser> there are  a bunch of people listed on tasks there, but jamespage name on the item.
[16:25] <jamespage> smoser, that should catchup this week
[16:25] <jamespage> I'm gonna pester jibel about upgrade testing.... and ivoks for mail stuff
[16:26] <smoser> roaksoax, i'm assuming that powernap needs to go to POSTPONED
[16:26] <smoser> i'll follow up with roaksoax
[16:26] <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-bug-triage-review
[16:27] <Daviey> Ursinha: ^ ?
[16:27] <smoser> jamespage, ^ you again
[16:27] <smoser> or Ursinha
[16:27] <Daviey> James page is all done on that blueprint.
[16:27] <jamespage> yeah - again I'll followup with Ursinha (I keep forgetting and its my blueprint)
[16:27] <smoser> k. moving on.
[16:28] <smoser> https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-maas-next-steps
[16:28] <smoser> roaksoax, ^ ?
[16:28] <smoser> there is a bunch of work to do there.
[16:28] <smoser> i'll speak to it.
[16:28] <smoser> that is "Essential" and will be accomplished to a satisfactory end.
[16:29] <Daviey> nothing like a satisfactory ending
[16:29] <smoser> servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charms-release-policy
[16:29] <roaksoax> smoser: there are a couple bugs need to be addressed and other but currently blocked too due to
[16:29] <roaksoax> not having quantal support
[16:30] <smoser> SpamapS, that looks like yours. is there updates there?
[16:30] <smoser> servercloud-q-openstack-ha https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-openstack-ha
[16:30] <SpamapS> smoser: the two TODO's are still valid, and have to be completed this cycle.
[16:30] <smoser> SpamapS, thank you.
[16:31] <smoser> roaksoax, you're next there. ... i'm uguessing that one can stand some updates.
[16:31] <smoser> servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/servercloud-q-juju-charm-unit-tests
[16:31] <Daviey> was,
[16:31] <Daviey> "juju charms for DRBD (adam_g says it is impossible, SpampS seems it is possible): TODO" resolved?
[16:31] <zul> i think we need a steel cage for that one
[16:31] <SpamapS> we never have worked on it
[16:32] <SpamapS> but yeah I still believe its possible :)
[16:32] <adam_g> hehe
[16:32] <adam_g> SpamapS: go for it!
[16:32] <roaksoax> smoser: since I have been concentrated on maas the last two weeks I couldn't really advance any work on the HA stuff. But there are updates that need to be considered and will catch up with zul /adam_g as it relates to ha specific stuff for openstack
[16:32] <Daviey> smoser: do you have capacity to prove us all wrong?
[16:32] <smoser> roaksoax, gracias.
[16:32] <smoser> i want no part of the SpamapS adam_g steel cage
[16:32] <SpamapS> drbd seems so old fashioned.. don't people just do RAID1 across volumes these days?
[16:33] <smoser> alright. i think that is enough there.
[16:33] <adam_g>  drbd is basically distributed raid1
[16:33]  * SpamapS would promise not to use his roundhouse
[16:33] <smoser> please do take a bit of time today and make sure your blueprints represent their actual state.
[16:34] <smoser> and remember that we're past beta1, and there is not much time remaining.
[16:34] <smoser> and miles to go before i sleep.
[16:34] <smoser> lets move on.
[16:34] <Daviey> thank you Mr Moser.
[16:34] <Daviey> #TOPIC Ubuntu Server Team Events
[16:34] <smoser> you are most welcome.
[16:35] <Daviey> CFP Submissions: SoCal Linux Expo (Deadline: Dec. 10) http://www.socallinuxexpo.org/cfp
[16:35] <Daviey> Anyone else travelling soon?
[16:35] <Daviey> OpenStack Conference, San Diego, Oct 15-18, 2012 .. number of us going.
[16:36] <Daviey> UDS, Copenhagen, Denmark , 29th Oct – 1st Nov 2012
[16:36] <Daviey> Anything else?
[16:36] <Daviey> #TOPIC Weekly Updates & Questions for the QA Team (hggdh)
[16:37] <Daviey> Great to see we got Beta-1 out in reasonable shape, what is the plans between now and the next milestone for enrichment in testing?
[16:37] <Daviey> Nobody from QA here?
[16:38] <arosales> btw, for events Surge is also coming up on Sept 27, and jimbaker is giving  a Big Data meetup preso on Sept 19.
[16:38] <Daviey> *sigh*
[16:39] <Daviey> Okay, lets move frustratedly on.
[16:39] <Daviey> [TOPIC] Weekly Updates & Questions for the Kernel Team (smb)
[16:39] <Daviey> and no smb.
[16:39] <Daviey> ogasawara: anyone from kernel here?
[16:41] <Daviey> marvellous
[16:41] <Daviey> [TOPiC] Weekly Updates & Questions regarding Ubuntu ARM Server (rbasak)
[16:41] <arosales> rbask is on holiday
[16:41] <jamespage> rbasak on holiday
[16:41] <Daviey> Please, can someone cover this, before i shoot myself?
[16:41] <arosales> I think he synced up with smoser though
[16:41] <Daviey> smoser: ^?
[16:42] <arosales> we are working on adding in ARM support int MAAS
[16:42] <arosales> that is the main effort
[16:42] <smoser> sure...
[16:42] <Daviey> anything else of note
[16:42] <Daviey> ?
[16:42] <smoser> rbasak has made considerable and impressive progresses on maas and arm.
[16:42] <Daviey> \o/
[16:43] <smoser> the ephemeral images were giving him pai, but he has hacked his way around that, and my reproduction of that has lead me to chasing some other issues in those images.
[16:43] <Daviey> smoser: does it work with panda?
[16:43] <smoser> bug 1031065
[16:43] <smoser> i do not believe it works with panda
[16:43] <Daviey> what about qemu-system-arm-highbank ?
[16:43] <smoser> also, of interesting work there, dannf reportably can make things work with qemu-system-arm
[16:44] <Daviey> qemu-system-arm -M highbank*
[16:44] <smoser> https://launchpad.net/~dannf/+archive/qemu-highbank/+packages
[16:44] <smoser> ping him for more info there.
[16:44] <Daviey> that should be good in the archive now
[16:44] <Daviey> The blocker for me, was a devicetree which is now fixed
[16:44] <smoser> last i spoke to him on it, he had a kernel that would boot, but the latest highbank kernel for precise would not.
[16:45] <Daviey> okay, thanks smoser
[16:45] <smoser> but yeah, haivng some sort of qemu functional would be huge.
[16:45] <Daviey> moving on?
[16:45] <Daviey> #TOPIC Open Discussion
[16:45] <smoser> and ideally that can be booted with cloud images and cloud-localds
[16:45] <ogra_> omap works pretty well
[16:45] <ogra_> (but limited to 512M indeed)
[16:46] <Daviey> ogra_: might want to grab you to help polish this stuff :)
[16:46] <ogra_> feel free
[16:46] <Daviey> ogra_: Would like to do a PXE boot via system-arm.. which might be interesting
[16:46] <SpamapS> Dunno if this was brought up in the bugs discussion, but Juju is a bit broken in quantal right now
[16:47] <Daviey> SpamapS: oh?
[16:47] <SpamapS> There's a regression in python that hit yesterday, bug 1048710
[16:47] <SpamapS> Barry Warsaw is on it
[16:47] <ogra_> Daviey, qemu can boot our images out of the box (including the whole bootloader bits) so that shouldnt be any prob
[16:47] <SpamapS> Its pretty serious as it breaks the argparsing for all of juju's cli utilities
[16:48] <Daviey> Joy
[16:48]  * Daviey ads it to tracking
[16:48] <SpamapS> anyway, I'm sure it will be resolved soon, but just a heads up that you may need to downgrade python2.7 if you want to have a working juju on quantal
[16:48] <SpamapS> Daviey: in case that bug does not fix it, there's also a juju bug, bug #1048864 , that is worth tracking
[16:49] <Daviey> SpamapS: juju/precise archive + jitsu... Is it possible?
[16:49] <SpamapS> Daviey: it may end up being duped to 1048710 .. we'll see
[16:49] <jamespage> SpamapS, thats on the release bugs list (both of them)
[16:49] <SpamapS> Daviey: we can put juju-jitsu in backports
[16:49] <SpamapS> jamespage: right, because I targetted at quantal
[16:49] <Daviey> SpamapS: but does it work?
[16:49] <SpamapS> Daviey: It should. popey was looking at it.
[16:50] <Daviey> SpamapS: he pinged me otherwise this morning :(
[16:50] <SpamapS> Daviey: bummer. Ok, we'll have to dive into that
[16:50] <Daviey> thanks
[16:50] <Daviey> Anything else?
[16:51] <SpamapS> Daviey: wild thing, I think you move me.
[16:51] <Daviey> #TOPIC Announce next meeting date and time
[16:51] <Daviey> 18th, same time, same place
[16:51] <Daviey> #ENDMEETING
[16:51] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 11 16:51:41 2012 UTC.
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[16:51] <Daviey> Thanks all!
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #startmeeting
[17:00] <meetingology> Meeting started Tue Sep 11 17:00:32 2012 UTC.  The chair is jsalisbury. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ## This is the Ubuntu Kernel Team weekly status meeting.
[17:00] <jsalisbury> ##
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Meeting
[17:00] <jsalisbury> [LINK] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/ReleaseStatus/Quantal
[17:00] <jsalisbury> # Meeting Etiquette
[17:00] <jsalisbury> #
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[17:00] <jsalisbury> Roll Call for Ubuntu Kernel Weekly Status Meeting
[17:00] <cking> o/
[17:00] <henrix> o/
[17:00] <sforshee> o/
[17:00] <kamal> o/
[17:00] <sconklin> o/
[17:01] <herton> o/
[17:01] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] ARM Status (ppisati)
[17:01] <jsalisbury> No update this week.
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Release Metrics and Incoming Bugs (jsalisbury)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> Release metrics and incoming bug data can be reviewed at the following link:
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kt-meeting.txt
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Milestone Targeted Work Items (ogasawara)
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [LINK]
[17:02] <jsalisbury> http://status.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-quantal/canonical-kernel-distro-team-ubuntu-12.10-beta-2.html
[17:02] <jsalisbury> || apw       || hardware-q-kernel-config-review || 3 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ||           || hardware-q-kernel-delta-review  || 3 work items ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ||           || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ||           || desktop-q-clean-old-kernels     || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> || ogasawara || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 4 work items ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> || tgardner  || hardware-q-kernel-misc          || 1 work item  ||
[17:02] <jsalisbury> If your name is in the above table, please review your Beta-2 work items.
[17:02] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:02] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Quantal Development Kernel (ogasawara)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> We have uploaded the 3.5.0-14.16 Quantal kernel.  This upload contains
[17:03] <jsalisbury> updates for the mei driver, resolves misc touchpad regressions, and
[17:03] <jsalisbury> includes misc bug fixes for the apple-gmux driver.  This will also be
[17:03] <jsalisbury> uploaded to the q-lts-backport [1] PPA to help facilitate testing of the
[17:03] <jsalisbury> 12.10 kernel in 12.04.  We welcome anyone to please install, test, and
[17:03] <jsalisbury> let us know your feedback.
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [1] https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/q-lts-backport
[17:03] <jsalisbury> Important upcoming dates:
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * Thurs Sept 20 - Beta 2 Freeze (~1 week)
[17:03] <jsalisbury>  * Thurs Sept 27 - Beta 2 (~2 weeks)
[17:03] <jsalisbury> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: CVE's (sconklin)
[17:03] <sconklin> == 2012-09-11 (weekly) ==
[17:03] <sconklin> Currently we have 75 CVEs on our radar, with two CVEs added and two CVEs retired this week.
[17:03] <sconklin> See the CVE matrix for the current list:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/ALL-linux.html
[17:03] <sconklin> Overall the backlog has decreased slightly this week:
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/status/cve-metrics.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> [LINK] http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/cve/pkg/CVE-linux.txt
[17:03] <sconklin> ..
[17:03] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Status: Stable, Security, and Bugfix Kernel Updates - Precise/Oneiric/Natty/Lucid/Hardy (bjf/herton/henrix)
[17:03] <henrix> Here is the status for the main kernels, until today (September 11):
[17:03] <henrix>  * Hardy - Nothing in this cycle
[17:03] <henrix>  * Lucid - In Testing; 3 CVEs; (9 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Natty - In Testing; 4 CVEs; (9 commits)
[17:03] <henrix>  * Oneiric - In Testing; 2 CVEs; 2 upstream stable release(s); (67 commits)
[17:04] <henrix>  * Precise - In Verification; 2 CVEs; 1 upstream stable release(s); (66 commits)
[17:04] <henrix> Current opened tracking bugs details:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/kernel-sru-workflow.html
[17:04] <henrix> For SRUs, SRU report is a good source of information:
[17:04] <henrix>  * http://people.canonical.com/~kernel/reports/sru-report.html
[17:04] <henrix> Future stable cadence cycles:
[17:04] <henrix>  * https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/ReleaseInterlock
[17:04] <henrix> NOTE: this is the *last* Natty kernel being built.
[17:04] <henrix> ..
[17:04] <jsalisbury> [TOPIC] Open Discussion or Questions? Raise your hand to be recognized (o/)
[17:05] <jsalisbury> Thanks everyone
[17:05] <jsalisbury> #endmeeting
[17:05] <meetingology> Meeting ended Tue Sep 11 17:05:02 2012 UTC.
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[17:05] <cking> thanks jsalisbury
[17:05] <kamal> thanks jsalisbury
[17:05] <sconklin> thanks jsalisbury