[06:48] <Monotoko> mornin' all
[07:08] <mattt> morning
[07:11] <christel> morning pretties
[07:12] <TheOpenSourcerer> Want one now: http://www.nexcrea.com/video/
[07:12] <MartijnVdS> Looks vaporwareish
[07:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> Oh yes MartijnVdS - it isn't real now.
[07:13] <TheOpenSourcerer> That's not the point though. ;-)
[07:14] <MartijnVdS> agreed, it looks nice
[07:15] <TheOpenSourcerer> It'll need a octacore 3Ghz ARM processor, 8G of RAM and a minimum of 64G of storage to be really usable in all those configuration ;-)
[07:15] <TheOpenSourcerer> And an *amazing* battery
[07:19] <ali1234> what happens if you lose your phone?
[07:19] <ali1234> none of your computers tablets and TVs works any more?
[07:19] <ali1234> sounds like a good idea
[07:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> Don't lose it then.
[07:20] <MartijnVdS> have it implanted
[07:20] <ali1234> what if you want a iPad, and android phone, a sony TV and a asus laptop?
[07:21] <ali1234> "sorry you can't you have to buy all of them from us"
[07:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> That's an Apple sales strategy.
[07:21] <ali1234> yeah and even apple is not razy enough to try this
[07:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> As it is Android & Ubuntu you can chose to use different h/w and sync via any cloud system of your choice.
[07:22] <MartijnVdS> you could make the screens etc. conform to a common standard
[07:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> Make the connectors "standard" then lots of manufacturers can play :-)
[07:23] <ali1234> yeah, fair enough
[07:23] <MartijnVdS> connectors? make it wireless :)
[07:23] <ali1234> they have ageneric docking station
[07:23] <ali1234> yeah it really should be wireless
[07:23] <MartijnVdS> if we're blue-skying anyway..
[07:23] <TheOpenSourcerer> Fair point.
[07:23] <ali1234> and while you're at it, how about putting a CPU in the docking station as well, so it can work without the phone
[07:23] <MartijnVdS> and it becomes dual-core when you add the phone?
[07:23] <ali1234> yes
[07:24] <MartijnVdS> Everything stored "in the cloud" so you don't have to worry about that?
[07:24] <TheOpenSourcerer> The phone would need to be at least quad already I reckon.
[07:24] <ali1234> why?
[07:24] <TheOpenSourcerer> So it would be as usable as my S3 :-)
[07:28] <MartijnVdS> S3 ViRGE?
[07:36] <darren> keiran, ping
[07:36] <darren> KScully, ping
[07:59] <diplo> Morning all
[08:16] <JamesTait> Good morning, angels! :-D
[08:17] <MartijnVdS> JamesTait: Good morning Charlie!
[08:17] <MartijnVdS> 8-)
[08:17] <TheOpenSourcerer> Some people seem to get up so late!
[08:17]  * JamesTait is more of a night owl.
[08:18]  * MartijnVdS has been up since 7:30
[08:18] <JamesTait> Hey, me too!
[08:19] <diplo> 6:15 here, just have to do the school run etc before work :)
[08:19] <JamesTait> I set my alarm for 7:00, though, and drive my wife batty hitting snooze. :-P
[08:19] <Monotoko> 5:45 here
[08:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> Our alarm is 06:15 but I am usually awake before it.
[08:20] <JamesTait> I don't think the school run counts as an excuse to get up at such a scary time. I did the school run on my bike twice before work this morning - one of my boys forgot his lunch bag.
[08:21] <diplo> hah JamesTait, and it's not scary.. my boys wake me up.. not a lot of choice :)
[08:21] <JamesTait> I could think of a few "choice" words I might use if my boys woke me up at that time. :-P
[08:22] <diplo> They are only 4 & 5, the younger one would quite happily sleep in
[08:23] <JamesTait> Mine are 8 and 5, and I think it's the younger one who normally wakes the older one up.
[08:23] <JamesTait> Although I can never be totally sure. They're a sneaky pair at times. ;)
[08:24] <diplo> heh
[08:24] <christel> GOOD MORNING
[08:25] <christel> i am having One of Those Mornings...
[08:25] <MartijnVdS> howdy christel
[08:25] <MartijnVdS> christel: "one of those morning"?
[08:25] <christel> just sat down at my desk and realised i'd made 3 separate mugs of coffee in the space of 20 minutes
[08:25] <christel> one is now cold, one is lukewarm and one is hot hot hot
[08:25] <christel> not quite sure where i left my brain
[08:25] <JamesTait> Buongiorno, christel!
[08:25] <diplo> lol
[08:25] <christel> JamesTait: \o/
[08:25]  * TheOpenSourcerer has had 3 large mugs already... Can feel #4 coming up.
[08:26] <MartijnVdS> christel: time for coffee ;)
[08:26] <christel> TheOpenSourcerer: ah but you are probably sensible enough to drink them rather than put them down to go make another one! :P
[08:26] <TheOpenSourcerer> Indeed I am christel :-D
[08:26] <MartijnVdS> christel: maybe you need sugar first?
[08:28] <christel> hehe
[08:28] <christel> i think i need a jump start indeed!
[08:29] <hoover> Hi folks
[08:29] <christel> hiya hoover :)
[08:30] <hoover> fingers crossed... rebooting a remote server with a new dhcp config... ;-)
[08:30] <hoover> hey christel
[08:30] <Monotoko> right... work time, see you later fellas :D
[08:30] <hoover> Have fun Monotoko
[08:30] <christel> have fun indeed!
[08:30] <Monotoko> and dhcp... urgh ._. my routers DHCP broke so I have a box sat next to it that does it now
[08:30] <hoover> yay, it's back up! ;-)
[08:30] <MartijnVdS> hoover: that's the scarey :)
[08:31] <hoover> This went better than expected, considering I also removed a previous 70-persistent-net.rules udev file ;-)
[08:31] <Monotoko> the scarier bit is when you're remotely rebooting :P
[08:31] <Monotoko> and it just... doesn't come back
[08:31] <hoover> exactly... the machine has ilo, but it's not connected 8P
[08:32] <hoover> Ok, now on to updating virtualbox
[08:34] <BigRedS> Hm. I seem to have lost the "Desktop Size" setting in 12.10's ccsm. Anyone know where it's gone?
[08:42] <czajkowski> http://www.canonical.com/about-canonical/resources/case-studies/capgemini-bpo-deploys-hybrid-thin-client-solution-ubuntu-adva  folks might find this an intersting read
[08:47] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:47] <diplo> Anyone recommend a good tutorial for a mail server on 12.04 that they have used ?
[08:49] <BigRedS> diplo: what sort of mail server?
[08:50] <TheOpenSourcerer> diplo: We've been using Zentyal for a while - easy to use, manage and set up. Runs atop of Ubuntu.
[08:50] <bigcalm> I found the quickest way to get a box sending out email was to install exim and use the ncursers interface to set it up
[08:51] <mattt> bigcalm: ++
[08:51] <bigcalm> But that might not be what you actually want *shrug* :)
[08:53] <marsilainen_> can anyone suggest what channel it is best to ask DNS questions? (godaddy fallout...)
[08:53] <marsilainen_> trying to understand how you are meant to work around the registrar (rather than just name servers) not being available
[08:53] <marsilainen_> since I understand that's part of what happened yesterday
[08:54] <BigRedS> exim? Ew.
[08:55] <BigRedS> But any of the smtpds should Just Work on installation as far as sending mail goes; is that all you're after?
[08:58] <diplo> Sorry out making cuppa
[08:58] <diplo> BigRedS: for my vps
[08:59] <diplo> Zentyal I'm looking at for work, but won't be suitable for my vps, was thinking postfix/dovecot setup.. is that what most people use ?
[08:59] <BigRedS> It's the same on virtual hardware and on real hardware :)
[08:59] <BigRedS> Are you wanting virtual mailboxes for incoming mail?
[08:59]  * bigcalm offers christel a mug of coffee
[08:59] <BigRedS> are you just after working outbound mail? Are you happy to have a unix user per mailbox?
[08:59] <diplo> I think so, I'd like to see how others have set up
[08:59] <BigRedS> I wrote this: https://github.com/BigRedS/postfixadmin-installer
[08:59] <diplo> It's going to be very low traffic and max of probably 30 mailboxes
[08:59] <BigRedS> which is badly written but appears to work
[08:59]  * diplo looks
[09:00] <christel> bigcalm: WHY THANK YOU I SHALL ADD IT TO MY COLLECTION
[09:00] <BigRedS> for virtual mailboxes in Postfix/Dovecot with Postfixadmin for a GUI to manage it
[09:00] <bigcalm> :D
[09:00] <mattt> managing your own email kinda sucks
[09:00]  * BigRedS concurs
[09:00] <bigcalm> christel: drink them all and bounce off the walls
[09:00] <BigRedS> ( /me manages other people's mail )
[09:00] <mattt> BigRedS: sorry to hear that :(
[09:00] <mattt> :P
[09:00] <diplo> mattt: Not as much as GoDaddy going down
[09:00] <diplo> :P
[09:00] <christel> bigcalm: i am!
[09:00] <brobostigon> good morning everyone.
[09:01] <mattt> they still having issues?
[09:01] <christel> brobostigon \o/
[09:01] <diplo> They did last night, mine is back up this morning
[09:01] <brobostigon> christel o/
[09:01] <diplo> But I'm paying two bills atm and want everything moved to the VPS asap
[09:01] <BigRedS> mattt: other people's mail is much better than your own mail :)
[09:02] <MartijnVdS> Woo! http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hitchhikers-Guide-Galaxy-Complete-Series/dp/0563504196 arrived!
[09:02] <diplo> Also need to work out how to use Bitfolks spamassasin setup
[09:02] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: woop :)
[09:03] <mattt> bitfolk any good?
[09:03] <diplo> yeah, well I've had no issues at all
[09:06] <MartijnVdS> brobostigon: 14 CDs!
[09:06] <mattt> diplo: i think i must have tried everyone but (linode, slicehost, rackspace, ec2, digital ocean, etc.)
[09:07] <brobostigon> MartijnVdS: :)
[09:10] <popey> diplo, its documented on their wiki
[09:10] <popey> i used to use it, but switched to gmail
[09:11] <diplo> the bitfolk one? popey, i've just opened Roberts one if you mean that ?
[09:18] <diplo> BigRedS: Whats the reason of using your script over apt-geting postfixadmin ?
[09:33] <AlanBell> czajkowski: do you know more about the cap gemini thing?
[09:34] <czajkowski> AlanBell: only the link sorry its one of the case studies
[09:34] <AlanBell> ok
[09:35] <AlanBell> would be curious how they intend to do Unity to a thin client
[09:37] <MartijnVdS> magic!
[09:41] <AlanBell> server side llvmpipe?
[09:41] <AlanBell> use the 3d accelleration of the client somehow?
[09:42] <AlanBell> or is it a carefully worded case study and they are actually just using it to run citrix to windows terminal services
[09:46] <czajkowski> AlanBell: wow you're a pessimist!
[09:48] <popey> thats an option
[09:49] <AlanBell> don't mean it in a pessimist way, it is just a bit vauge about whether it is Ubuntu that is being delivered to thin clients as a hosted desktop, or a fat install of ubuntu that is connecting to other hosted desktops
[09:50] <AlanBell> or a hosted ubuntu deliverd to windows CE thin clients and hosted thin sessions to other windows things which makes even less sense
[09:50] <AlanBell> and quite where unity fits into this is interesting
[09:53] <BigRedS> diplo: we run Debian
[09:53] <BigRedS> the postfixadmin package doesn't do all the configuring for you, either
[09:53] <BigRedS> there is a ubuntu package for a pma server, though, now I think of it
[09:54] <BigRedS> or at least something similar
[09:54] <BigRedS> but if you apt-get install postfixadmin you still need to make Postfix and Dovecot talk to the DB
[09:54] <Monotoko> ugh, postfix
[09:54]  * Monotoko shudders
[09:54] <BigRedS> haha
[09:55] <Monotoko> I took the easy way... I use virtualmin :P
[09:55] <BigRedS> MTAs are the new text editor
[09:55] <diplo> I'll take a look then thanks
[09:55] <Monotoko> after days and days of trying to get postfix to conform
[09:55] <BigRedS> virtualmin uses postfix
[09:55] <Monotoko> I know, but it configures it automatically :P
[09:57] <Monotoko> saying that though, I do need to configure a basic inbox on an amazon AMI soon -.-
[09:58] <davmor2> Morning all
[09:58] <Monotoko> mornin'
[10:01] <czajkowski> davmor2: ello
[10:01] <czajkowski> anyone elses skype icon changed.....
[10:02] <Monotoko> skype keeps crashing on me in Linux :(
[10:02] <Monotoko> add a contact - crash, open settings - crash, try to talk to someone - crash
[10:03] <czajkowski> it only crashes once when I video skype
[10:03] <czajkowski> then reboot and it;s fine
[10:03] <czajkowski> it's a mind of its own
[10:03] <czajkowski> but I also *need* it
[10:05] <davmor2> czajkowski: morning prod and a hug just cause
[10:06] <czajkowski> heh cheers
[10:09]  * popey needs some help with testing
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> "make test"
[10:09] <MartijnVdS> popey: what do you need tested?
[10:09] <popey> a font
[10:10] <MartijnVdS> I have lots of fonts! :)
[10:10] <popey> :)
[10:18] <czajkowski> hmm my little envelope indicator is gone
[10:18] <czajkowski> bugger
[10:19] <Monotoko> heh... it's not as bad as it was in the 8.04 days :P
[10:19] <christel> you keep losing it!
[10:19] <Monotoko> things just used to vanish and reappear a few reboots later :')
[10:19] <czajkowski> well this is 12.10
[10:19] <czajkowski> so I dont mind as much
[10:19] <czajkowski> it's just unusal
[10:22] <BigRedS> czajkowski: if it's any consolation, 12.10 is generally Just Working for me :)
[10:22] <BigRedS> except for my not working out a way of rearranging my workspaces
[10:22] <davmor2> christel: czajkowski lost it years ago
[10:22] <czajkowski> BigRedS: it's working fine also here. I just noticed skype went away and now reinstalled it, and my envelope thingymagiggy is gone
[10:23] <BigRedS> pft. I refuse to believe you're not having any problems :)
[10:23] <czajkowski> I do like the default of 4 workspaces I use them every day
[10:23] <BigRedS> yeah, I just like them all in a line
[10:23] <czajkowski> BigRedS: just imagine me and the language and then it's very easy to see
[10:23] <czajkowski> BigRedS: ah I dont I like up down and over :)
[10:23] <BigRedS> else I forget two of them exist and lose apps...
[10:24] <AlanBell> is there some special magic you need to do to allow rhythmbox to sync to android devices?
[10:24] <popey> MTP?
[10:25] <AlanBell> I plug it in and it connects and shows up in rhythmbox (and says MPT connect on the phone)
[10:25] <czajkowski> popey: not working for me using jellybean and ubuntu
[10:25] <AlanBell> but sync with library is greyed out and I can't drag stuff onto it
[10:25] <czajkowski> AlanBell: is it jellybean ?
[10:25] <AlanBell> no
[10:25] <AlanBell> not even ICS
[10:25] <czajkowski> ah ok differnet issue
[10:25] <popey> can you make it mount in 'not mtp' mode?
[10:25] <czajkowski> it used to work pefectly for me
[10:25] <AlanBell> because they won't do over the air upgrades and I can't get kies to work
[10:26] <davmor2> AlanBell: are you on quantal there?
[10:26] <AlanBell> popey: yes, just tried that, still won't let me put stuff on it
[10:26] <AlanBell> shows up as 12gb usb drive rather than music player
[10:26] <AlanBell> davmor2: yes
[10:26] <popey> can you fudge it with the special file you put in the root?
[10:27] <davmor2> there is a fault with all music players I think there is an issue with the detector I pointed it out to pitti the other day I'll chase up with him
[10:27] <popey> .is_audio_player is a file you can put on the device which rb and other players find
[10:27] <popey> http://almost-a-technocrat.blogspot.co.uk/2010/11/isaudioplayer.html
[10:30] <AlanBell> fudging it makes little difference
[10:30] <Monotoko> right... need some coffee before moving all my domains away from GoDaddy
[10:31]  * AlanBell won't bother moving from godaddy
[10:31] <Monotoko> well, I'm moving my DNS hosting
[10:32] <Monotoko> not the actual domains
[10:32] <Monotoko> been meaning to get my own bind9 server up for some time
[10:32] <AlanBell> cool
[10:34] <popey> if you are on quantal, could you test this:-
[10:34] <popey> sudo add-apt-repository ppa:sil2100/fonts
[10:34] <popey> sudo apt-get update
[10:34] <popey> sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:34] <popey> you should get a new font package which adds the "medium" weight
[10:34] <popey> this breaks some things, but I don't know the full scope
[10:34] <popey> I think it's mostly limited to qt apps such as vlc, skype and mumble
[10:35] <popey> would appreciate some testing to find others!
[10:35] <popey> e.g. in vlc the preferences pane is all in bold
[10:35] <MartijnVdS> who uses Qt apps anyway :P
[10:35]  * MartijnVdS adds ppa
[10:36] <MartijnVdS> "picard" (music tagger) is in semi-bold
[10:36] <MartijnVdS> it's a qt app
[10:36] <AlanBell> http://www.the-crown-london.co.uk/
[10:37] <MartijnVdS> vlc as well
[10:37] <AlanBell> http://www.imbibe-bar.com/garden.php
[10:37] <MartijnVdS> it's not quite bold.. maybe it's the new "medium" font?
[10:37] <AlanBell> are two pubs that have been suggested for the release party
[10:40] <popey> MartijnVdS, any chance you can get before/after screenshots?
[10:40] <MartijnVdS> uhh
[10:41] <MartijnVdS> too late
[10:41] <MartijnVdS> I can get "after" now..
[10:41] <popey> you can revert back the font
[10:41] <popey> or just remove the M font files
[10:41] <popey> in /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ubuntu-font-family
[10:41]  * MartijnVdS downgrades
[10:43] <BigRedS> AlanBell: Not sure if suggestions are still open, but The George is very nice and not far from the Blue Fin building
[10:43] <BigRedS> Is The Crown the old boxing pub on the corner of the Cut?
[10:45] <MartijnVdS> popey: before: http://imagebin.org/227996
[10:45] <AlanBell> BigRedS: suggestions still very much open
[10:45] <AlanBell> no idea where the crown is
[10:45] <MartijnVdS> popey: after: http://imagebin.org/227997
[10:46] <popey> thanks
[10:47] <BigRedS> AlanBell: yeah, George is nice, just off Borough High St, down towards te shard
[10:47] <BigRedS> has a courtyard off the road, several ales. Proud of being old and/or having a shakespeare connection
[10:47] <BigRedS> I havent been for five years, though
[10:47] <mattt> i've been there recently
[10:47] <mattt> to use the toilet :P
[10:47] <BigRedS> used to be our defaul for work drinks
[10:48] <mattt> i can vouch for the toilet
[10:48] <BigRedS> haha
[10:48] <mattt> it's quite clean
[10:48] <BigRedS> blimey, it even has its own wikipedia page
[10:48] <BigRedS> Oh, the connection is Dickens, not Shakespeare
[10:50] <MartijnVdS> BigRedS: http://london.randomness.org.uk/wiki.cgi?George,_SE1_1NH ?
[10:50] <mattt> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_George_Inn,_Southwark
[10:50] <mattt> same one
[10:51] <BigRedS> yeah
[10:57] <BigRedS> Is there a way to search Launchpad for stuff written in a given language?
[10:57] <BigRedS> I'm wondering if I'm yet good enough at Perl to help other people, but everything's written in Python these days
[10:57] <daubers> \o/ python
[10:57] <BigRedS> I found a script for it once, but it seems like the sort of thing that might be hidden away in a web UI...
[10:58] <BigRedS> (a python script, no less. :) )
[10:58] <daubers> a python script to search for perl projects?
[10:59] <mattt> BigRedS: maybe just search by date
[10:59] <mattt> ie, "projects last updated 15 years ago"
[10:59] <mattt> may turn up a perl project
[11:01]  * mattt realizes that wasn't a very helpful answer
[11:05] <oimon> guys, if i wanna remove the ubuntu scrollbars is it safe to remove overlay-scrollbar package, and that's it?
[11:06] <BigRedS> mattt: :)
[11:12] <ali1234> BigRedS: perl is a write-only language anyway
[11:12] <ali1234> nobody is good enough at perl to work on another developer's perl code
[11:14] <AlanBell> oimon: gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.interface ubuntu-overlay-scrollbars false
[11:15] <AlanBell> oimon: that way you don't remove the ubuntu-desktop package
[11:15] <ali1234> does that actually work now?
[11:15] <oimon> AlanBell, thanks. trying that. think i need to logout now
[11:16] <mungojerry> AlanBell, i can confirm it works,. ta
[11:16] <ali1234> here's a question: how do you tell a list can be scrolled, if the scrollbar is hidden?
[11:17] <mungojerry> it's not hidden though, is it?
[11:17] <mungojerry> there's a slim thingy
[11:18] <mungojerry> hmm, there's a side effect which is that it always shows a scoll bar even even it doesn't need to
[11:18] <mungojerry> in terminal for example
[11:18] <popey> i see no scrollbar in terminal
[11:18] <popey> until there is something to scroll
[11:19] <mungojerry> i've disabled the ubuntu overlay jobby though
[11:19] <ali1234> in other OSs it's hidden all the time
[12:35] <BigRedS> I'm used to not being able to save attachments opened in Libre Office, but this now doesn't seem to want to let me zoom...
[13:43] <mungojerry> owncloud just saved my bacon
[13:44] <mungojerry> so i had a bacon sandwich to celebrate
[13:44] <popey> mungojerry, i installed owncloud on a server at home
[13:44] <popey> no idea what to do next :)
[13:45] <mungojerry> colleague killed the hard drive on my pc
[13:45] <davmor2> popey: use it :D
[13:45] <mungojerry> Documents folder saved phew
[13:45] <mungojerry> and my keepass file...
[13:46] <mungojerry> popey, you can also lin together external cloud storage accounts into your owncloud
[13:46] <popey> like U1 and dropbox?
[13:47] <mungojerry> yesh
[13:47] <mungojerry> or maybe a paid owncloud provider too
[13:48] <popey> how?
[13:49] <mungojerry> ownCloud currently supports: Amazon S3, Dropbox, FTP, Google Drive, OpenStack Swift, SMB, and WebDAV. Local file storage can also be mounted that is outside of your ownCloud’s data directory
[13:50] <mungojerry> go to apps and enable external storage support
[13:51] <mungojerry> " it is relatively easy to add support for other services if they provide an API."
[13:59] <mungojerry> more details here http://blog.gapinthecloud.com/2012/06/10/configuring-external-storage-for-owncloud/
[14:00] <mungojerry> but i am missing a step since it aint showing for me
[14:08] <mungojerry> bug 690080
[14:08] <mungojerry> bug 689080
[16:06] <ali1234> what exactly is U1 music streaming?
[16:07] <MartijnVdS> music
[16:07] <ali1234> ok let me put the question a different way
[16:07] <davmor2> ali1234: music that you buy that is streamed to stuff like phones
[16:08] <ali1234> if i don't pay £3.99 a month extra for "music streaming" what exactly prevents me from streaming the music in U1?
[16:08] <ali1234> considering that there is absolutely no difference between streaming and downloading
[16:09] <gord> music streaming = access to the music streaming api. you could write a client that uses the syncing api but loose things like server side search
[16:09] <ali1234> is that just meta data search?
[16:09] <gord> i dunno
[16:10] <ali1234> ID3 tags and such
[16:10] <ali1234> i suppose that would be useful
[16:10] <gord> i think the streaming api converts also, though i may be making that up
[16:10] <davmor2> ali1234: streaming it mean that you don't fill up your phones memory with music tracks it is streamed like youtube
[16:10] <ali1234> also, is it possible to link to albums and songs in the store yet?
[16:11] <ali1234> davmor2: youtube downloads the whole video you know
[16:11] <ali1234> into the firefox cache
[16:12] <davmor2> ali1234: indeed but once you close it it goes away ie you get it back if you play a second track the memory from the first is freed up etc
[16:12] <ali1234> it doesn't actually
[16:12] <ali1234> the videos hang around in the cache for a long time
[16:12] <ali1234> anyway, there's no reason this cannot be implemented using the syncing API as gord said
[16:14] <ali1234> http://al.robotfuzz.com/~al/random/ffcache.py
[16:14] <ali1234> ^ use that to rip flash video from firefox cache
[16:14] <ali1234> and various other formats
[18:08] <JamesTait> 'night all!
[18:08]  * JamesTait waves
[18:08] <MartijnVdS> howdy
[18:15]  * MartijnVdS plays with ebtables
[18:18] <xr1rr> anyone know a good bitcoin miner
[18:20] <Azelphur> xr1rr: depends on hardware
[18:22] <xr1rr> Nvidia, I know they not the best - far from, just want to try and setup and see how it works
[18:24] <Azelphur> xr1rr: laptop or desktop?
[18:24] <Azelphur> which nvidia?
[18:25] <xr1rr>  desktop, I got hold of a, NVIDIA Tesla graphic card
[18:47] <Azelphur> xr1rr: I dunno how well that will perform, perhaps try phoenix
[18:55] <Toby> ...Hulllo?
[18:55] <Toby> ...Ah, maybe some other time. Night!
[18:56] <brobostigon> evening Toby
[18:56] <Azelphur> !hello | Toby
[18:56] <Azelphur> no hello? :<
[19:05] <oimon> if something is for sale at £0.00 on a website do they have to honour it? (i guess not)
[19:06] <AlanBell> oimon: nope
[19:08] <oimon> thought so :D
[19:08] <oimon> i remember a well known case of argos and a £30 telly
[19:15] <davmor2> night all
[20:04] <MartijnVdS> A program about VI kings on BBC HD.. but no editor in sight!
[20:11] <dogmatic69> something is chewing up my drive.
[20:11] <dogmatic69> got a notice there was 1.1GB left, went for dinner and now got another saying 500mb
[20:11] <dogmatic69> Any way I can see what is using so much?
[20:12] <dogmatic69> hmmm... just opened sys monitor and can see it ticking down
[20:12] <popey> probably a log in /var ?
[20:12] <popey> maybe use disk space analyzer?
[20:12] <popey> could be something in your home spinning and putting a log in a .local directory
[20:16] <dogmatic69> down to 380mb now :/
[20:17] <dogmatic69> I dont even do much on my pc, I have most things on my server, just running xchat, email and netbeans really
[20:17] <dogmatic69>  /var/log had kbs of logs
[20:19] <dogmatic69> lol
[20:19] <dogmatic69> popey: found the problem
[20:20] <popey> ?
[20:20] <dogmatic69> I closed my terminal (terminator) that had ~20 ssh sessions open to ~5 server all running innotop/htop/iotop etc.
[20:20] <dogmatic69> instantly have 15GB again
[20:33] <Azelphur> popey: did you hear about the guy who made a 10k btc bet that pirate would pay? XD
[20:40] <popey> Azelphur, matthew?
[20:40] <Azelphur> yea
[20:40] <Azelphur> did you hear he ragequit bitcoin xD
[20:41] <Azelphur> because he lost the bet
[20:41] <popey> yes
[20:41] <Azelphur> xD
[20:41] <popey> i don't think there was ever any possibility either would pay out
[20:42] <Azelphur> fun fun
[21:14] <Azelphur> Anyone recommend anything besides cheese for video recording?
[21:14] <Azelphur> Cheese records at like 0.1fps or less for me
[21:14] <AlanBell> guvcview
[21:22] <smallfoot-> can we release Ubuntu Muslim Edition today on 9/11 ?
[21:23] <MartijnVdS> ಠ_ಠ
[21:27] <mattt> :-/
[21:31] <shauno> are we ever going to teach them to use dd/mm like the rest of the planet?
[21:33] <MartijnVdS> I think that requires a proper invasion
[21:35] <AlanBell> just revoke the declaration of independence
[21:48] <Azelphur> AlanBell: it worked but it desynced the audio track :(
[21:50] <brobostigon> nos da everyone, sleep well.
[21:50] <AlanBell> :( I had some problems with playback in openshot, I tried recording it as mjpeg because that is what comes from the camera rather than h264
[21:50] <AlanBell> seemed better, then can transcode later in openshot
[21:51] <Azelphur> hehe
[21:51] <Azelphur> think I'll just try the youtube uploader this time, guvcview literally has like 10 seconds+ of difference between the audio and video
[21:51] <Azelphur> annoying
[21:54] <Azelphur> and the youtube uploader doesn't get any sound at all :(
[21:57] <popey> pip pip
[22:14] <Azelphur> since the internet is conspiring against me
[22:14] <Azelphur> all of this https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/2012/September/2012-09-11-230018.jpg in here https://dl.dropbox.com/u/3832397/Photos/2012/September/2012-09-11-230445.jpg
[22:14] <Azelphur> scottevest \o/
[22:15] <shauno> http://www.amazon.com/The-Book-of-Tea-ebook/dp/B000JQUVMC/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1347400801&sr=8-2&keywords=the+book+of+tea#_
[22:15] <shauno> argh
[22:15] <shauno> sorry, not used to putty.  trying to figure out how to get it to click Azelphur's links as, well, links
[22:16] <Azelphur> hehe
[22:17] <shauno> it used to work :/ but I think I had a third-party build, because it used to minimize to the tray.  oh well