=== Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [05:11] hi Squirm and others [05:11] hi [05:12] so hows you 12.04? [05:12] youre [05:12] I can't get alsa working :( [05:12] oh my here it worked on its own [05:13] I never installed it like you did [05:13] oh [05:13] why not [05:13] cause I don't like kde/gnome/lxde [05:14] mate is ok, but went for what I had before [05:14] what are you using [05:14] my [c looks and feels exactly the same as it did before, only now it runs Ubuntu as is a bit more updated [05:14] s/[c/pc [05:14] what is that [05:15] so no pulse either [05:15] I'll show you a screenshot this evening [05:15] well, can't get either to work [05:15] some of the pulse stuff must be installed or no sound works [05:16] everything is being picked up by alsa, right sound card, right model, etc. just nothing coming out of speakers [05:16] ok ill look tonight what it looks like [05:16] not a mute button you missed [05:17] I've quadruple checked for that. but can't seem to find one [05:18] eish [05:18] chat in a bit, going to breakfast [05:18] I'm late, as usual [05:18] you not near the pc now hey? [05:18] lol [05:18] I'm on it, but walking out the door [05:19] ok later [05:40] morning all [05:40] hey magespawn [05:40] hey Kilos [05:41] i see Squirm has sound problems [05:41] yeah [05:41] maybe hes doing like ian and got the speakers in the wrong hole [05:41] lol [05:42] hehe he spent days on it [05:42] does happen, check the most obvious things first. is there petrol in the tank? [05:43] lol ya [05:46] meh [05:46] you know how a problem with ubuntu/linux is flash and flash websites? [05:46] I was playing music before I formatted. So everything was working up to that point [05:46] well i can't get it to work on that other os either [05:46] checked everything isn't muted many times(always could have missed something) [05:47] mmm Squirm so something has changed then. [05:47] gstreamer plugins for alsa maybe [05:47] have gstreamer-alsa, gstreamer-ugly/bad/good [05:47] sjoe [05:50] sudo modprobe speakers [05:50] hehe [05:51] when you play sound do you get the levels showing in software? [05:53] and alsamixergui [05:55] maybe install vlc and see if sound works [05:55] hows things there magespawn [05:56] good doing a online course [05:57] on what? [05:57] a+ then n+ then MCITP [05:57] sjoe [05:58] more grunt work than anything else [06:01] i have found some links for you Squirm [06:02] I have tried many of those [06:02] thanks though, I'll have a look through [06:02] $ sudo aplay -l [06:02] **** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** [06:02] card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 0: ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog] [06:02] Subdevices: 1/1 [06:02] Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [06:02] card 0: Intel [HDA Intel], device 1: ALC662 rev1 Digital [ALC662 rev1 Digital] [06:02] Subdevices: 1/1 [06:02] Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 [06:02] sorry for the paste [06:02] http://askubuntu.com/questions/135778/no-sound-on-ubuntu-12-04 [06:03] my card is being picked up [06:03] http://askubuntu.com/questions/132577/no-sound-in-ubuntu-12-04 [06:04] http://www.unixmen.com/2012003-howto-resolve-nosound-problem-on-ubuntu/ [06:04] these all seem to deal with coerrect hardware but with software settings and problems. [06:04] correct even [06:05] thanks [06:06] not in front of my pc at the mo to test [06:06] will test it at lunch [06:06] hey np, easy for me to search, no worries [06:08] if one helps let us know. [06:09] I shall [06:09] well, you'll know if it hasn't worked [06:16] i suppose we would, lol [06:32] morning maiatoday [06:35] good evening folks [06:35] hi all [06:35] hi sup` [06:35] eish [06:35] superfly, [06:35] hey superfly, maiatoday [06:38] svn FTL :( [06:39] server acting up today for no reason [06:39] svn ls operation takes 9 seconds on the local network... [06:39] lo nuvolari [06:45] hi oom Kilos :) [06:45] gaan dit goed vanoggend? [06:45] ja dankie en jy? [07:01] ja oom, dit gaan goed, nuwe dag :) [07:04] Squirm: I know this sounds silly, but just make double sure you have your speakers plugged into the right socket. It's usually the light green socket [07:17] can't say how many times i though my sound wasn't working, where it was either muted or plugged into the wrong socket... [07:35] hi jrgns morgs [07:35] morning Kilos [07:35] i go sort sheep [07:35] morning [07:35] sounds interesting [07:43] heya morgs [07:45] hi superfly [07:45] how's things, morgs? [08:07] hi aquarat [08:07] lol [08:07] hi Kilos [08:08] howzit going ? [08:08] good ty and you? [08:08] good :) [08:08] I'm trying to get mdadm going on a raspberry pi [08:09] but after running into some obstacles I figure perhaps LVM is a better route [08:09] (and the USB bottlenecks) [08:09] haha there are some raspberry guys here [08:09] I'm sure [08:09] :P [08:09] anyone who's run ubuntu will be fairly at home using a pi [08:10] well, minus unity [08:10] lol [08:10] which would probably run nicely on a pi [08:10] do people talk about Unity or is it like religion ? [08:10] lol [08:11] there was a discussion going on in the list [08:11] some guys hate it and have swopped to other flavours [08:11] k [08:11] unity on a pi? [08:12] i tried it for the past 2 months and its not too bad but slow so i have installed mate onto 12.04 [08:12] it'd probably work [08:12] sounds like a bad idea [08:12] I'm a KDE user, so I'm immune :-D [08:12] why ? [08:12] hehe [08:12] I wouldn't do it [08:12] tonberryE352: no, I don't think it has the resources to run Unity [08:12] performance [08:12] im not so sure [08:12] the pi does have an integrated gpu [08:12] the pi I played with was sluggish on the default lxde [08:12] though a colleague here at work is using his Pi as a media centre, and it works well [08:13] yeah lots of people are using them as media pcs [08:13] o and ram usage [08:13] k [08:13] ah well [08:14] I don't even run an x server on mine lol [08:14] just use them as little servers [08:14] you dont even need to start x to decode media on it [08:14] x tunneling ? [08:14] omxplayer is more than happy to run out of a terminal [08:15] not exactly sure what trickery is done to make it work [08:15] I doubt video would play back nicely via ssh x tunneling [08:15] if that's what's being done [08:15] very doubtful yes [08:15] no tunneling [08:16] mplayer works in the terminal for mp3s and internet radio :P [08:16] omxplayer just dumps the video output to your screen regardless of what the screen is showing [08:16] *omxplayer [08:16] you can probably get vlc or mplayer to use the hdmi output as the video display [08:16] mplayer does not support the hardware decoding [08:16] neither does vlc [08:16] oh [08:16] you have to use omxplayer [08:16] oh ok [08:16] vaapi? [08:16] no [08:16] dont think so [08:16] some custom thing [08:16] k [08:17] vaapi is intel and amd [08:17] oh ok [08:17] vdpau is nvidia [08:17] yes, I tried getting vaapi going on my slate 500 [08:34] hi drussell [08:35] Kilos: howdy! [09:11] hmm hi psyatw [09:16] hi Kilos [11:00] Maaz, coffee on [11:00] * Maaz flips the salt-timer [11:00] inetpro, koffie tyd [11:03] hmm steven gone travelling again [11:04] Coffee's ready for Kilos! [11:04] Maaz, thanks [11:04] Kilos: No problem [11:08] hey Kilos how the sheep? [11:11] all good ty apaert from one old ewe thats too lazy to walk after food so i gotta cut and carry [11:12] she also had them strange ticks around the butt [11:12] when you get old you get certain privilages [11:12] so maybe not lazy [11:13] lol [11:13] must be a hybrid or evolved paralasis tick [11:14] global warming has modified them [11:15] maybe when i was studying nat con i thought they only occured in the karoo [11:16] no lots northern natal too but not this colour [11:16] think they the bontpoot ticks in natal [11:57] Squirm: I know this sounds silly, but just make double sure you have your speakers plugged into the right socket. It's usually the light green socket <-- I did check. I had music playing before format, I never unplugged or adjusted speaker volume inbetween. but yeah... [12:03] Squirm: never hurts to check :-) [12:04] it doesn't that's why I did [12:19] WHen I get it working, I need to find soemewhere I can save as to how [12:20] cause I always have the problem [12:22] ah always prob with same pc Squirm ? [12:27] no [12:27] it'd have been fine if I did a normal installation. I know it would have. [12:28] what have you actually changed from a normal install? [14:45] I did a minimal install [14:46] it doesn't seem to set everything up automatically [14:48] SystemSettings -> Sound -> (Select output) SPEAKERS [14:48] how would I do that on the cli? [14:51] aha [14:51] superfly: I don't think it's picking up my output devices [14:52] Squirm: sadly, I haven't messed with audio enough to be able to help you :-/ === Trix[a]r_za is now known as Trixar_za === Trixar_za is now known as Trix[a]r_za [17:28] teeheeeheee! superfly, sleep-eating :P [17:29] oe oe, 4de kabinet [17:30] awesome [17:30] net jammer ons tv uitsendings is dood :( [17:30] :-/ neee! [17:30] dit suck [17:30] hoe is dit dood Kerbero ? [17:30] vanoggend 8h gestop [17:31] verdwyn uit die lug [17:31] maar [17:31] MAAR [17:31] ek praat van die toets DVB-T2 uitsendings [17:31] so hulle speel seker nog daarmee [17:31] mao. Die pleister aftre na die bloedskenk is erger as die bloedskenk self :-/ [17:31] *aftrek [17:31] lol ja [17:33] ok, ek is weg, storie is aan die gang :P [17:33] hmm [17:39] huh? [17:39] superfly: your video of zak [17:40] nuvolari: that I gathered... it was the stuff afterward I was having trouble following [17:40] superfly: oh :P sorry [17:40] "Die 4de Kabinet" is a series on SABC 2 [17:40] afrikaans [17:41] yeah not to bad either [17:45] ah, now I follow [18:27] tumbleweed: when you get back, I have a question or few for you [18:29] superfly: where did he go? [18:29] good evening everyone [18:29] nuvolari, klomp skelms daar ne [18:29] hi inetpro welcome to ubuntu-za [18:29] kilos: ty [18:29] inetpro: CLUG dinner [18:30] ahh [18:33] bye :p [18:33] superfly: hi [18:36] tumbleweed: hi, I upgraded to the beta (the proper way) and now X doesn't seem to be very happy [18:37] I've tried with nvidia drivers, and with the nouveau, but X doesn't seem to like either. [18:37] any hints? [18:37] ouch [18:37] can you define "not very happy"? [18:38] tumbleweed: doesn't start. I'm looking at the log file, and there are some errors in there [18:38] one says that the glx module's abi differed from the server [18:39] *differs [18:39] package managed nvidia drivers? [18:39] yup [18:39] ok, this sounds vaugely familiar [18:39] I thuoght it was fixed ages ago, though [18:41] eish! [18:42] it loads the nouveau driver successfully , but there are still a few other errors in the log file [18:42] superfly: yeah, fixed on the 28th [18:42] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers/304.43-0ubuntu1 [18:42] but they don't look like they'd affect anything [18:43] hrm, I had that version installed [18:43] you need to reboot to switch between nouveau and nvidia [18:43] because the nvidia driver can't work when the nouveau kernel module is loaded [18:44] I have... I also get a segfault when I try to reboot from the command line, but I can live with that [18:45] I suggest visiting #ubuntu-x / #ubuntu+1 [18:45] * tumbleweed can't provide much help without seeing logs [18:45] pastebinit is awesome for that [18:45] and I can't get the logs online without a gui [18:46] is that a command line tool? [18:46] yes [18:46] I assume you also deleted xorg.conf when switching between the drivers? [18:46] yup [18:47] I don't see any even vaguely related open bugs [18:47] so this is something interesting... [18:48] superfly: aptitude install pastebinit [18:48] tumbleweed: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1199235/ [18:49] * superfly just typed that out -_- [18:50] tumbleweed: I've just purged noveau to see if it was causing a problem [18:51] so, this log was with noveau purged, and nvidia installed? [18:51] no, other way around [18:51] ok [18:51] [ 19.858] (II) LoadModule: "nvidia" [18:51] [ 19.890] (WW) Warning, couldn't open module nvidia [18:52] [ 19.890] (EE) Failed to load module "nvidia" (module does not exist, 0) [18:52] it couldn't find it [18:52] bleh, you said other way around [18:53] superfly: dpkg -l dpkg -l xserver-xorg-video-nouveau xserver-xorg [18:55] (all I want is the versions) [18:56] does your irc client have an /exec? :) [18:56] tumbleweed: I'm on my Android tablet [18:56] aah [18:57] tumbleweed: paste of my latest attempt: 1199250 [18:57] [ 20.231] (EE) NVIDIA: Failed to load the NVIDIA kernel module. Please check your [18:57] [ 20.231] (EE) NVIDIA: system's kernel log for additional error messages. [18:58] have, saw that. [18:58] *ja [18:58] why did it fail to load? [18:59] dunno [18:59] dmesg | grep -i nvidia ? [19:01] I only see my onboard audio stuff [19:02] Kern.log and syslog both just show the module loading, but no errors [19:03] hrm [19:03] hmm.... superfly I remember vagualy something about header files [19:03] kernel headers [19:03] it's a long time since I've used the proprietary nvidia driver [19:03] inetpro: if it's loading, it's built [19:04] ahh [19:04] superfly: so, if you lsmod, you see it? [19:04] sadly the nouveau driver is not stable enough for my games [19:04] yeah, I can't run any gl stuff on my desktop. nouveau doesn't like it [19:05] ah, no module in lsmod [19:05] modprobe it? [19:05] ah, it seems to be blacklisted [19:06] the nouveau package could do that. Can't remember all the details here [19:07] and just in for in case: [19:07] aptitude search linux-headers-`uname -r` [19:08] there :> now I'm happy for a change [19:08] awesome wm [19:08] rocks my boat [19:09] nuvolari, shhh [19:09] * nuvolari fluister [19:09] hoekom oom kilos ? [19:10] die vlieg sukkel [19:10] hy en tuimelkruid werk hier [19:10] :O apologies [19:11] ai [19:14] where the fly and weed went [19:14] grrr we were learning [19:14] presumably he's hacking away furiously [19:15] shame [19:15] not often he battles [19:15] tumbleweed: I managed to enable the module, but it doesn't seem to have helped... busy trying to find output why [19:17] dmesg | tail [19:22] tumbleweed: I still had kdm installed, and lightdm was also installed, so I've removed kdm to see if that helps [19:23] it looks like kubuntu uses lights now [19:25] hrm, dmesg says that lightdm terminated with status 1 [19:25] the more useful thing for dmesg to tell you would be module loading problems [19:25] as did plymouth [19:27] nope, no errors loading the nvidia module [19:28] ah, lightdm shows no greeters [19:29] superfly: wtf? [19:29] you do have kubuntu-desktop installed? [19:29] yes [19:30] when you boot, it is using VESA graphics, right? not modesetting and getting a high resolution? [19:30] tumbleweed: no, I use text mode [19:31] right, but it is 80x20, not high-res? [19:31] what I'm getting at is: does it load nouveau when you boot? [19:32] after reinstalling the kde greeter, now it works [19:32] \o/ [19:32] tumbleweed: no, not as far as I know [19:33] but you have it working now? [19:34] yes [19:34] that's what matters [19:34] we're busy having a big old grumble in #ubuntu-release about breakage in upgrades :) [19:35] well done superfly tumbleweed [19:35] night all . sleep tight [19:36] yay! Thanks tumbleweed, you're a star [19:36] np [19:38] now, for some reason, Quassel lost all its settings [19:39] ubuntu-bug quassel... [19:52] Squirm: ello :) [19:52] * Squirm looks at czajkowski [19:52] I know you [19:52] can't quite tell from where though [19:52] so what's wrong with ALSA and also what version of Ubuntu are you running [19:52] drubin: booo long time buddy! [19:54] running Ubuntu 12.04.1, ALSA seems to be picking up my Intel onboard sound card, but nothing is playing [19:54] just did a purge on all alsa packages, reinstalling now [19:58] ooooooh [19:58] sound! [19:58] yay [20:06] that's a glorious moment [20:06] Maaz: google define:glorious [20:06] nuvolari: "Glorious | Define Glorious at Dictionary.com" http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/glorious :: "Glorious - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster ..." http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/glorious :: "Paul Baloche - "Glorious" - Live - YouTube" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-5T2UAZoPU :: "Glorious Revolution - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glorious_Revolution :: "glorious - def [20:06] fail :-/ [20:07] Maaz: can you define words? [20:07] nuvolari: What? [20:09] Maaz: spell glorious [20:09] nuvolari: Yup, that's a word all right [20:09] \o/ [20:10] Maaz: define glorious [20:10] tumbleweed: Glorious \Glo"ri*ous\, a. [OF. glorios, glorious, F. glorieux, fr. L. gloriosus. See {Glory}, n.] [1913 Webster] 1. Exhibiting attributes, qualities, or acts that are worthy of or receive glory; noble; praiseworthy; excellent; splendid; illustrious; inspiring admiration; as, glorious deeds. [1913 Webster] These are thy glorious works, Parent of good ! --Milton. [1913 Webster] 2. Eager for glory or distinction; haughty; boastfu [20:10] nuvolari: there's also gdefine, if you like google's definitions... [20:10] czajkowski: Welcome! yes it has been a long time [20:10] czajkowski: what brings you to these parts? [20:12] drubin: chatting to Squirm in another channel and he said he was over your way [20:12] he was having issues with 12.04.01 and sound [20:12] still do [20:12] just putting it out there [20:14] ooh :> awesome [20:15] thanks tumbleweed [20:15] so speaker-test works [20:15] but nothing else [20:15] mebbe you need pulseaudio [20:16] a wild guess [20:16]