[00:00] <zeeeero> for cisco btw
[00:03] <zeeeero> check out http://tversity.com/ as well. they are more xbox oriented I believe.
[00:05] <black_13> blah
[00:05] <black_13> ok
[00:06] <icarious> can anyone tell me, which ubuntu repo contains the broadcom 4313 drivers?
[00:07] <black_13> is there a way to remaster the unbutu install cd to boot off a hard drive
[00:07] <snwh> icarious, the restricted repe "bcmwl-kernel-source" package
[00:08] <pragmaticenigma> icarious: You need to install the firmware-b43-installer which should enable the ability to install the drivers
[00:08] <icarious> snwh: isnt it the package "firmware-b43-installer" which contains the driver?
[00:08] <icarious> pragmaticenigma: thanks mate
[00:08] <icarious> i was confused which package contains the drivers ..
[00:09] <pragmaticenigma> the installer doesn't contain the driver, just the definition for the hardware detection to be able to identify and retrieve the correct drivers
[00:09] <pragmaticenigma> icarious: after you install that package, you will see the device appear in the additional drivers utiility
[00:09] <icarious> pragmaticenigma: so installing the package "firmware-b43-installer" will fetch the drivers for Broadcom 4313
[00:09] <snwh> icarious, I have the broadcom 4313 and all I install bcmwl-kernel-source
[00:09] <icarious> pragmaticenigma: thanks
[00:10] <snwh> icarious the b43-installer will just fetch them from the internet.
[00:10] <icarious> ok
[00:10] <pragmaticenigma> like everything snwh , there is more than one way to do things... just trying to use the easiest way that I know
[00:11] <snwh> pragmaticenigma, indeed there is, I just let the additional drivers dialog do its thing.
[00:11] <visioneer> can anyone help with trying to mkfs.ext4 for /dev/mapper/vg-root for encrypted drive?
[00:11] <ikonia> visioneer: just explain the problem
[00:12] <visioneer> keep getting ext2fs_check_mount: Input/outputerror while determining whether mounted
[00:12] <ikonia> visioneer: is it mounted ?
[00:13] <visioneer> i tohught when i luksopen it mounted it
[00:13] <xiamx> where's "Tickless System (Dynmaic ticks)" in menuconfig? I've been looking for 15mins...
[00:13] <ikonia> so it has to be unmounted to put a file system on it
[00:13] <visioneer> ok ty
[00:15] <trism> xiamx: type / then NO_HZ and hit enter
[00:17] <aliciapg> so my sound stopped working after i changed a setting and then changed it back, does anyone have an idea of what i can do to fix it?
[00:19] <smerz> try the various sound output's
[00:19] <daemongpl> aliciapg: specify what setting was changed
[00:19] <smerz> if you have multiple you can select a specific one (like line out & headphone out for example)
[00:19] <xiamx> trism: thanks
[00:19] <aliciapg> smerz: i've tried all combinations that i thought might work
[00:20] <aliciapg> daemongpl: i changed from internal audio analog stereo to GF104 HDMI
[00:20] <switchblade> y'all.  i can't play DVDs.  U12.04.1 restricted installed
[00:21] <kgee> I have a desktop and a laptop. I like that the ubuntu software center has many of the big indy games. What are the restrictions on multiple computer installs when it comes to paid apps?
[00:22] <aliciapg> smerz: i only really have two choices for internal audio: analog output and analog headphones
[00:22] <lewis> ubuntu vs lint
[00:22] <visioneer> ikonia /dev/mapper/vg-root isnt mounted... same issue
[00:24] <aliciapg> smerz: thanks for the suggestions, i just managed to fix it
[00:24] <kgee> can I install paid apps on multiple computers? Do I need always-on network connectivity?
[00:24] <ikonia> visioneer: is this your root file system logical volume ?
[00:25] <aliciapg> the output volume at the top was stuck at 0% even when i had the volume increased on the top panel
[00:25] <visioneer> ikonia vg-root is the fs for the external
[00:25] <ikonia> external ?
[00:25] <ikonia> visioneer: why don't you explain what you are actually doing
[00:26] <visioneer> ikonia im creating a fde external
[00:26] <ikonia> fde ?
[00:26] <visioneer> ikonia pvcreate /dev/mapper/pvcrypt
[00:26] <visioneer> Physical "volume /dev/mapper/pvcrypt" successfully created
[00:26] <visioneer> vgcreate vg /dev/mapper/pvcrypt
[00:26] <visioneer> Volume group "vg" successfully created
[00:26] <visioneer> lvcreate -n root -l 100%FREE vg
[00:26] <FloodBot1> visioneer: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[00:26] <visioneer> Logical volume "root" created.
[00:26] <daemongpl> full disk encrypt
[00:26] <ikonia> oh
[00:27] <ikonia> so what's a fde "external" ?
[00:27] <ikonia> what's an "external2
[00:27] <ikonia> "
[00:27] <switchblade> how can i post a screenshot?
[00:27] <daemongpl> sounds like trying to encrypt an external HD
[00:27] <arleslie3> upload it to site and post link
[00:27] <visioneer> ikonia full disk encryption
[00:27] <ikonia> visioneer: yes, FDE was explained, but whats an "external2
[00:27] <ikonia> damn "external"
[00:28] <visioneer> i have an external drive i am trying to creat a bootable fde on
[00:28] <daemongpl> ahahaha that 2
[00:28] <ikonia> and you're using lvm for that.....
[00:29] <ikonia> lvm on external disks, doesn't sound wise
[00:29] <daemongpl> bootable encryption installer or bootable OS that is encrypted
[00:29] <visioneer> ikonia i used cryptsetup. is that lvm?
[00:30] <visioneer> daemongpl bootable os that is encypted
[00:31] <the> #ubuntu-es
[00:31] <philsf> the unity dasher autohide is much more difficult to activate in 12.04 than in 11.10. Is there any way to restore the behavior of the previous release?
[00:32] <the> #ubuntu-es
[00:32] <Fail_fetch> hello everyone: i installed Jaunty Jackalope and wanted to upgrade my OS from there but my repositories are old and i get Fail Fetch errors. help!
[00:34] <Fail_fetch> should i edit my /apt/sources.list ? but i tried all kinds of mirrors still the same
[00:34] <wasanzy> hi
[00:35] <wasanzy> please am trying to create a startup disk using the startup disk creator on ubuntu 12.04 but it is not working
[00:35] <daemongpl> visioneer: I don't have experience with cryptsetup but from google it looks like it only encrypts the drive with no option to make it bootable. So to use that external drive you need an OS that has cryptsetup installed to be prompted for password to open the drive.
[00:35] <wasanzy> the iso if centos iso
[00:36] <daemongpl> visioneer: what OS is on the external HD?
[00:36] <snwh> wasanzy, I do believe the startup disk creator doesn't do isos outside of ubuntu
[00:36] <visioneer> daemongpl ive created a boot partition for that
[00:37] <wasanzy> so what can I use instead? because I need to create a startup disk using my pendrive
[00:37] <daemongpl> visioneer, boot partition has to boot some sort of OS with cryptsetup installed to access the drive
[00:37] <visioneer> specifically, im following this tut http://www.edwiget.name/2011/11/administration-backtrack-5r1-full-disk-encryption-install-to-hard-drive/
[00:37] <snwh> wasanzy, you can try unetbootin or the command "sudo dd if=[location of your iso] of=[location of your pendrive, /dev/sdX]"
[00:37] <daemongpl> you need something that will encrypt the drive and add its own preboot screen without software required
[00:38] <Guest4770> how do i hide the bottom panel in gnome classic? i googled it but havent sound a solution
[00:38] <wasanzy> sunh: thank you I will try that
[00:38] <snwh> wasanzy, for example: sudo dd if=some-centOS.iso of=/dev/sdc
[00:38] <visioneer> daemongpl im not concerned about that because ive done this for a live persistent FDE usb... now cant do it on stupid HDD
[00:39] <daemongpl> visioneer, so if its been done... let me ask have you tried to boot up the external OS and encrypt while its running?
[00:39] <johnnyfive> I have a question.. If I install some software in /opt/ that is started via shell script (./script), and I create a symbolic link for that script in /usr/bin/start_my_software, running start_my_software *should* open it, right? Or is there something tricky with symoblic links and shell scripts?
[00:40] <Guest4770> how do i hide the bottom panel in gnome classic? i googled it but havent sound a solution
[00:41] <visioneer> daemongpl i have to mkfs before i can install the OS
[00:42] <visioneer> deamongpl correct?
[00:42] <daemongpl> visioneer: so no OS is currently loaded on the external?
[00:42] <Cyclohexane> does anyone know the apt repo link for linux_source?
[00:42] <visioneer> daemongpl nope. trying to get to that point but no fs yet
[00:43] <switchblade> so yeah, i can't play a dvd or a blu-ray
[00:43] <daemongpl> linux going on external?
[00:43] <switchblade> nah, internal
[00:44] <ring2> switchblade, have you installed libdvdcss2?
[00:45] <daemongpl> visioneer: Use the tool --- sudo apt-get install unetbootin
[00:45] <visioneer> daemongpl that doesnt create FDE. does it?
[00:45] <daemongpl> visioneer: makes it EZ unless you are trying to learn the commands to do it in terminal
[00:45] <switchblade> i think so.   how can i know for sure?
[00:46] <ubuntu8> what's your opinion on OpenSuse and Fedora? :P
[00:46] <daemongpl> visioneer: installs OS to external and makes it bootable... you boot into it then encrypt
[00:46] <visioneer> daemongpl i am doing it in terminal via fdisk and cryptsetup
[00:46] <ring2> switchblade, i'm sorry, it's called libdvdread4
[00:46] <daemongpl> visioneer: you cannot install OS and encrypt at same time... one then the other
[00:46] <bazhang> ubuntu8 offtopic here
[00:46] <ring2> switchblade, in a terminal: apt-cache policy libdvdread4
[00:47] <ubuntu8> sorry !!
[00:47] <ClientAlive> is there any way to specify a pause before mounting in fstab. I'm not sure this would fix the problem but it's the best guess I have. I have a couple logical volumes I mount through fstab but recently one of them has been throwind an error at boot time and I have to "press s to skip"
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> ClientAlive, the UUID correct for it?
[00:49] <switchblade> RING2 - ok, i got that, and it's still not working..  do i need to reboot?
[00:49] <ring2> switchblade, if it says "Installed: (none)" it is not installed
[00:50] <ring2> switchblade, is it installed?
[00:50] <switchblade> ring2, yes
[00:50] <Jordan_U> ClientAlive: Can you post the fstab line in question? Most likely you can work around the problem by turning off automatic fsck (making the last column '0').
[00:50] <ClientAlive> wilee-nilee: I've been using /dev/mapper/system-storage (that's it's name)
[00:50] <ring2> switchblade, execute: sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread4/install-css.sh
[00:50] <ClientAlive> I can post the fstab. one moment
[00:51] <m0r0n> Hi I accidentally declined a security certificate for pidigin (network security certificate) and now it wont work. Where can I accept the certificate?
[00:51] <switchblade> PANCAKES
[00:51] <ring2> switchblade, done?
[00:52] <switchblade> wahoo!!!! it works!!!
[00:52] <ring2> switchblade, you're welcome
[00:52] <switchblade> will it play Blu-Rays, too?
[00:52] <switchblade> cuz i've got a brdrom drive
[00:53] <ring2> switchblade, vlc should be able to play it
[00:53] <ClientAlive> here's my fstab. Last 3 entries are my additions/ logical volumes. Second to last entry (/dev/mapper/system-media was just created like 5 min ago and never been tried. /dev/mapper/system-storage is the one give me a proble, /dev/mapper/system-virtual_machines has never given a problem)
[00:53] <ClientAlive> sorry: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197781/
[00:53] <switchblade> you're the best, RING2
[00:53] <switchblade> thanks!
[00:54] <ring2> switchblade, but i don't know, if it'll play bluerays with some fancy copy-protection
[00:56] <kingCrawlerx> is there any particular reason usernames must be all lowercase by default in ubuntu?
[00:56] <Leidenfrost> Hello people. I'm trying to use kmscon and it fails because it can't find libuterm.so.1. Any idea where can I install this library?
[00:56] <kingCrawlerx> and if I force a bad name, will it bite me later?
[00:56] <ClientAlive> willee-nilee: brb. gotta step away for a moment
[00:58] <HiggsPossum> anybody heard about the e3b ubuntu plug-in, it's some sort of add-on to facilitate the use of ubuntu for the blind and handicapped, I was just wondering if they had an official channel as the channel #e3b on Freenode doesn't seem to be related to it...
[00:59] <icarious> whenever i am trying to install firmware-b43-installer to enable my broadcom 4313 wireless i am getting a " unsupported device found: PCI id 14e4:4727" during installation
[00:59] <icarious> any solution ?
[00:59] <Leidenfrost> Nevermind. I had to run ./configure with "--prefix=/usr/".
[00:59] <ikonia> the device is not supported by that driver
[00:59] <icarious> ikonia: then which driver should i install
[00:59] <ring2> switchblade, if you encouter non-working bluerays, you probably have to fiddle some more. here is a good start: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/BluRayAndHDDVD
[00:59] <ikonia> icarious: the one which supports your device
[01:00] <icarious> ikonia: and ofcource which one is that? sorry i am asking cause i have no clue. i just want to activate my wireless
[01:00] <ikonia> icarious: so your job is to research it's linux support, and which drivers supports it
[01:00] <dr_willis> we cant tell you.... :) start with lspci perhaps?
[01:01] <OerHeks> icarious, according to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx you need the STA driver
[01:01] <switchblade> thanks, y'all.
[01:02] <ClientAlive> willee-nilee: I'm back if you have any suggestions
[01:02] <icarious> OerHeks: which package?
[01:02] <randi_> just curious, is there any voip solutions for ubuntu that allow me to have a regular phone number and use a landline phone? Like skype has...
[01:02] <OerHeks> icarious, why ask here, it is all on that page..
[01:03] <excervo> randi, you can use software for telephony that ubuntu support
[01:04] <ClientAlive> this is the updated one with the new entry for the new logical volume: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1197796/
[01:05] <randi_> excervo, I've seen a few but they just use SIP numbers
[01:05] <OerHeks> randi_, try Ekiga for VOIP
[01:06] <Leidenfrost> Where can I install libxkbcommon.h?
[01:07] <icarious> OerHeks: i cant understand the "Under the desktop menu System > Administration > Hardware/Additional Drivers, the STA drivers can be activated for use. " because i have a stock lxde installation
[01:07] <icarious> i have the package installed. but its not activated
[01:08] <dr_willis> icarious:  run the tool 'jockey-gtk' from the terminal.
[01:08] <icarious> ok thanks for that
[01:08] <dr_willis> icarious:  you may need to reboot after installing it.
[01:08] <icarious> sure
[01:09] <Donato11> Hello everyone
[01:09] <Donato11> I just have a quick question. Can I install Cinnamon and GNOME 3 on Ubuntu at the same time, so that I can switch when I want to?
[01:09] <ClientAlive> is chat.freenode having problems or something?
[01:09] <true_techie> i just resized a partition with ubuntu on it to create 16GB worth of free space for windows. after i installed windows the partition with ubuntu on it vanished. what happened?
[01:09] <Cyclohexane> if i do make && make install > install.log will that only store make isntall output or both?
[01:10] <ikonia> well, Cinnamon isn't an official package, so yes you can install it but you won't get much support
[01:10] <ikonia> Cyclohexane: don't do that
[01:10] <Donato11> Well I have Gnome 3 installed right now, and i don want to lose it by installing CInnamon
[01:10] <ikonia> Donato11: you won't "lose" it
[01:10] <Cyclohexane> ?
[01:10] <Donato11> Cool thank you. Awesome that you guys are here :D
[01:11] <dr_willis> true_techie:  how did you 'install' windows?
[01:11] <Cyclohexane> ikonia: why not?
[01:11] <ikonia> Cyclohexane: oh, I don't care, do it if you really want to. I advise against it, but it's up to you
[01:11] <true_techie> dr_willis, i had ubuntu booting from a jump drive
[01:11] <Cyclohexane> ikonia: you advise against it without reasoning.. ?
[01:12] <Donato11> What is bad about Cinnamon?
[01:12] <ikonia> I can't be bothered
[01:12] <dr_willis> Donato11:  its not officaially supported here. it could vanish/developers stop at any time..
[01:12] <ikonia> Donato11: it's personal preference, some people like it, some don't
[01:12] <dr_willis> and gnome2 is basically dead.. and was really lacking in a great many ways.. time to move on to gnome3
[01:13] <Donato11> Oh i understand. As far as I know its like a theme like for windows. But I am very very new to Ubuntu and such.
[01:14] <dr_willis> Donato11:  i would stick with unity and gnome3 then.
[01:15] <Donato11> Well im using gnome3 atm, and im pretty content with it.
[01:17] <lauratika> what calendar application you recomend?
[01:17] <excervo>  
[01:19] <ClientAlive> anyone know why I might be having a problem mounting my logical volume when I boot up?
[01:21] <true_techie> i installed ubuntu on an ext4 partition and then installed windows on an ntfs logical partition. why did the ubuntu partition vanish or why didnt it list both operating systems?
[01:22] <iateadonut> because windows doesn't want you to use linux
[01:22] <iateadonut> re-install grub
[01:22] <xangua> !grub2 | true_techie next time install windows first
[01:22] <true_techie> first link gave an internal server error
[01:23] <iateadonut> true_techie, you might get a disc like puppy linux and use it to dd your windows drive now, if you have it exactly like you like it, so that you can re-install windows again easily without over-writing grub
[01:23] <iateadonut> well, don't give up - you're in for hours and hours and hours of learning how operating systems work to boot up.
[01:25] <SnapSnap> I want to torrent a file without anyone being able to see my IP. I used to use PeerBlock to block IP and HTTP trackers but it's not available for Linux. Can anyone recommend alternative software with a similar function?
[01:25] <true_techie> xangua, so youre saying i have to reformat the whole thing?
[01:26] <xangua> true_techie: did i say that¿ or do you want me to say that¿
[01:26] <xangua> interesting how people interprete one says a thing that did not say
[01:27] <true_techie> xangua, i just need someone to point me in the right direction because the first link  you showed me is broken
[01:27] <ikonia> !grub2 | true_techie
[01:28] <true_techie> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub  is broken
[01:28] <ikonia> the wiki appears to be down
[01:28] <randi_> exit
[01:30] <nick_h> with ufw, i added a new section to /etc/ufw/applications.d/openssh-server to allow 9323/tcp, and restarted ufw. however, port 9323 isn't open. does something else need to be done to open this port?
[01:30] <WeThePeople> hi
[01:31] <excervo> hello guys what is the best video converter for ubuntu?
[01:31] <Leidenfrost> excervo: ffmpeg
[01:31] <WeThePeople> transmageddon or devede
[01:31] <WeThePeople> soft center
[01:31] <excervo> Leidenfrost, Thanks, I'll try that
[01:32] <SnapSnap> I want to torrent a file without anyone being able to see my IP. I used to use PeerBlock to block IP and HTTP trackers but it's not available for Linux. Can anyone recommend alternative software with a similar function?
[01:32] <GraemeLion> SnapSnap: Nope, impossible.
[01:33] <WeThePeople> bitdefender
[01:33] <WeThePeople> ?
[01:33] <GraemeLion> Someone will always see the IP linked to you.  It may be through proxies, but the swarm HAS to know your IP
[01:33] <bhast2> how do I get rid of the grable from the boot screen
[01:34] <rtdos> hey i added "0 0 * * * * /sbin/shutdown -h now" to my crontab, but do i need to update the sudoers file? ...to what?
[01:34] <WeThePeople> is it possible to disable any of these>>> http://imgh.us/lsof-i.jpg
[01:35] <SnapSnap> GraemeLion, blocking IP and HTTP trackers is impossible?
[01:35] <bhast2> when Ubuntu boots up where it is suppose to say UBUNTU it is just a bunch of lines
[01:36] <WeThePeople> snapsnap, maybe work through a socks5
[01:37] <Guest25034> hi, noob here just testing this out.....
[01:37] <GraemeLion> SnapSnap: Yep.  They still see your IP in the swarm.
[01:37] <WeThePeople> but its sock5
[01:37] <GraemeLion> All peerguardian and peerblock do is consult a whitelist of people you won't share with.
[01:37] <GraemeLion> Err. blacklist.
[01:40] <GraemeLion> SnapSnap: So theoretically, you won't be sharing to the blocked IPs, and thus if you're involved in illicit downloads MIGHT not be prosecutable.
[01:40] <GraemeLion> SnapSnap: But it doesn't, and cannot hide your IP from the swarm.
[01:43] <SnapSnap> GraemeLion, interesting. I'm just getting started on tightening down my security so I'll have to look further into this.
[01:43] <GraemeLion> SnapSnap: I'd consider a proxy.
[01:44] <RoxAbout> run torrents from work safer...even better from the dumb blondes pc next to ya
[01:44] <SnapSnap> I was thinking about routing all connections through Tor but A.) the connection wouldn't be encrypted, and B.) it would probably triple the download time. And I have no idea how to set up a VPN...
[01:44] <WeThePeople> hi
[01:45] <Nisstyre> SnapSnap: are you talking about bittorrent? Just run the tracker connection through tor
[01:45] <Nisstyre> that doesn't take much bw
[01:45] <Nisstyre> then force encryption
[01:45] <Nisstyre> that will take care of essentially all traffic shaping
[01:45] <SnapSnap> Nisstyre, I have Tor installed, but have no idea how to route connections through it, or how to force encryption.
[01:46] <Nisstyre> SnapSnap: what client? RTorrent is good.
[01:46] <WeThePeople> how do i disable these >>> http://imgh.us/lsof-i.jpg
[01:46] <SnapSnap> Nisstyre, Transmission
[01:46] <Nisstyre> SnapSnap: I recommend rtorrent because it's more configurable than transmission. Transmission is "Easier" to use because it's a GUI client, but rtorrent will server you better in the long run.
[01:46] <WeThePeople> snapsnap, use ip addreses
[01:46] <Nisstyre> s/server/serve/
[01:47] <WeThePeople> snapsnap, start Tor and put the ip address in Transmission or rTorrent
[01:47] <Nisstyre> SnapSnap: all you want to do, essentially is route all tracker connections (if using a tracker, this doesn't apply to magnet links) through a proxy system such as tor, a vpn, or any other proxy type deal
[01:48] <Nisstyre> I believe Transmission will let you do this
[01:48] <Nisstyre> SnapSnap: you can run the entire thing through a vpn if you have one
[01:49] <Nisstyre> that includes the actual downloading
[01:49] <WeThePeople> or maybe its loca idk
[01:49] <Nisstyre> since a vpn is just a new network interface
[01:49] <WeThePeople> local
[01:49] <ezio> how do i enable untrusted packages?
[01:49] <Nisstyre> SnapSnap: keep in mind this doesn't stop people from seeing the VPN doing things, so pick a VPN provider you trust
[01:50] <SnapSnap> Nisstyre, honestly I'm not as educated as I could be concerning Tor and VPNs so setting all of this up is kind of beyond me
[01:51] <Nisstyre> SnapSnap: setting up OpenVPN is quite easy, see this https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenVPN
[01:51] <Nisstyre> SnapSnap: ignore all the stuff about servers
[01:51] <Nisstyre> you just want the client
[01:52] <Nisstyre> SnapSnap: there's probably a guide to just doing the client configuration somewhere...
[01:56] <jrib> zykotick9: well later versions of upstart have override files you can use
[01:59] <cfhowlett> Hey is the question still active?  I've got a couple of resources
[02:00] <wingy> how can you do something like http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ftpcHD3378&feature=player_embedded
[02:00] <GraemeLion> wingy: Looks like a gnome-shell thing.
[02:01] <praeluceo> What's the best way to deploy LibreOffice 3.6.1 (from Quantal) to a bunch of 12.04 workstations? Its not in backports yet, and I'd prefer to avoid adding the quantal repos just for one application.
[02:01] <wingy> GraemeLion: is Ubuntu Unity customizable like that?
[02:01] <GraemeLion> wingy: I don't think it is that much, no
[02:02] <wingy> damn
[02:02] <Donato11> Hello, one more quick question. Do you guys know how long you can run a machine with Ubuntu with out restarting/shuting down compared to a machine with windows 7
[02:02] <cfhowlett> Donato11: I've seen 10 year uptimes ...
[02:02] <GraemeLion> Donato11: As long as the kernel doesn't update.
[02:02] <Donato11> Oh wow, very long time. Thank you.
[02:02] <daemongpl> wingy: everything is customizable, its just how bad you want it.
[02:03] <GraemeLion> Donato11: But uptime comparisons are BS.  You should be rebooting on security upgrades for the kernel
[02:03] <wingy> would want something as simple as installing a theme
[02:03] <Donato11> Well yea i normally always reboot after updates (if required).
[02:03] <wingy> don't have that much time to learn how to configure everything
[02:03] <Donato11> if not I normally shutdown at the end of the day
[02:05] <wingy> im looking at
[02:05] <wingy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWI2EaYdQIg&feature=fvwrel
[02:05] <wingy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqxp9q5j-RA&feature=watch_response
[02:05] <FloodBot1> wingy: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:05] <wingy> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ftpcHD3378&feature=player_embedded
[02:06] <wingy> is there a tutorial on how to do this on ubuntu?
[02:06] <sarsaeol> wingy
[02:06] <sarsaeol> compiz
[02:07] <GraemeLion> wingy: I would contact the people that made that and ask them how they do it.
[02:07] <sarsaeol> its mostly all compiz stuff in that vid
[02:07] <wingy> http://www.compiz.org/
[02:07] <sarsaeol> word
[02:07] <sarsaeol> it used to be sudo apt-get install ccsm
[02:07] <wingy> what does one mean by "word"?
[02:08] <searayman> does anyone know the name of the mint irc? or what irc would be a good place to ask for help?
[02:08] <drupin> i just installed unbuntu studio on flas drive .. on apt-get update i get this message ...
[02:08] <GraemeLion> That's the place.
[02:08] <drupin> Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[02:08] <GraemeLion> And ugh, that DE looks utterly unusable.
[02:08] <GraemeLion> But if I'm ever in a movie where someone needs to hack a Gibson, I know who to contact.
[02:09] <xangua> !mint | searayman
[02:10] <xangua> drupin: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[02:10] <xangua> or just use the update manager
[02:11] <drupin> xangua: how can i add the current user to sudo
[02:11] <drupin> so i dont need type sudo all time
[02:11] <unless> I just installed a upgrade version for VirtualBox and now Ubuntu Software Center app doesn't lists it as installed.
[02:11] <drupin> i need to run update and upgrade both
[02:12] <unless> I'd like to remove this applicaton.
[02:12] <unless> could someone help me please?
[02:12] <Kentos> did you do the sudo apt-get install 'app'
[02:13] <Kentos> 'app' being the virtualbox app
[02:13] <Kentos> @unless
[02:13] <Kentos> Drupin you need help managing your packages/release version?
[02:13] <unless> nopf, I think I installed via Ubuntu Software center at first.
[02:14] <Kentos> oh
[02:14] <drupin> ok
[02:14] <unless> sorry, nopf, I was saying it to Kentos
[02:14] <Kentos> didnt realize i was in the general help section
[02:14] <xubumafoo> i need some help installing linux onto a USB thumbdrive (not live mode, not persistent mode, not using casper)
[02:14] <Kentos> umm, you didnt find it through the...app search button at the top left or it doesnt work at all?
[02:15] <fdge> echo "{user} ALL=(ALL) ALL" > /etc/sudoers.d/{user} && chmod 0440 /etc/sudoers.d/{user};
[02:16] <xangua> xubumafoo: just install it as you would normally but select the usb stick in the advanced install option
[02:16] <Kentos> unless: it doesnt work or your not sure itf it installed?
[02:17] <Jordan_U> xubumafoo: Simply install Ubuntu the same way you would to an internal drive.
[02:17] <fdge> you will stil have to use sudo but you can use the command 'sudo -i' to go to a persistent 'root' prompt
[02:17] <xubumafoo> thats what i thought xangua, but i have been having problems. the installer crashes aparently at random times. i've tried diff source media, diff destination media and even from a diff laptop
[02:17] <cfhowlett> !who
[02:18] <unless> Kentos, the version available at USC didn't work, then I downloaded a upgraded version from oracle website as .deb and reinstalled it via USC again, then it stoped being recognized by USC and this one remains with same issues as the preview.
[02:18] <unless> Kentos, so maybe its time to see what could be wrong here.
[02:18] <Hotel_Guest> hi
[02:18] <xubumafoo> how can i read the crash report to find out what went wrong?
[02:19] <cfhowlett> Hotel_Guest: greetings
[02:19] <dj_ryan> ubuntu java dependencies are weird. i built my own jdk package that provides EVERY different meta package, and yet apt-get install maven attempts to pull down shit like gcj, icedtea, etc
[02:19] <Hotel_Guest> how to disable these>>> http://imgh.us/lsof-i.jpg
[02:20] <GraemeLion> Hotel_Guest: Why would you want to disable those?
[02:21] <Hotel_Guest> graemelion, i think it is messin with my internet connection
[02:21] <fdge> Hotel_Guest: turn the firewall on?
[02:21] <Hotel_Guest> cfhowlett, hi
[02:23] <wingy> is there a tablet running ubuntu?
[02:23] <cfhowlett> Hotel_Guest: sorry.  I'm in China.  Can't see your link
[02:23] <xubumafoo> yes
[02:24] <xubumafoo> check ubuntu.org
[02:24] <wingy> you mean .com?
[02:24] <Hotel_Guest> fdge, it doesnt help
[02:25] <daemongpl> wingy: if you still interested this might help http://gnome-look.org/
[02:25] <fragmachine> Hello, I'm trying to write a C program in eclipse, but I  don't get any output in the console. I've tried running  the program from the terminal ands it works fine. Any  ideas why? I'm on ubuntu 12.04
[02:25] <jagginess> wingy, tablet running ubuntu? there must be.. eventually later this year ubuntu tv is coming out
[02:26] <wingy> daemongpl: for gnome .. that means i have to switch from unity to gnome?
[02:26] <Hotel_Guest> fragmachine, see c++
[02:26] <kalio> how do i delete a network interface using the ip or ifconfig tools?
[02:26] <fragmachine> Hotel_Guest: you mean irc?
[02:26] <Hotel_Guest> yes
[02:26] <jagginess> kalio, why not just disable it?
[02:27] <kalio> jagginess: it's a temporary monitor interface from wireshark, said it couldn't remove and to do so manually
[02:27] <Hotel_Guest> kalio, sudo apt-get autoremove wireshark
[02:27] <daemongpl> wingy: per wiki Unity is a shell interface for the GNOME desktop environment developed by Canonical Ltd for its Ubuntu operating system.
[02:27] <rtdos> hey i added "0 0 * * * * /sbin/shutdown -h now" to my crontab, but do i need to update the sudoers file? ...to what?
[02:27] <jagginess> kalio, i think wireshark needs an interface ip in order to work
[02:28] <kalio> jagginess: well yeah i'm done using wireshark though and want to remove this leftover interface
[02:28] <jagginess> kalio, ?
[02:28] <jagginess> kalio, left over interface?
[02:29] <kalio> network interface
[02:29] <kalio> like eth0, wlan0
[02:29] <Rehan> I am trying to copy over a lot of data from a Windows share to my Synology NAS running linux. Copying with Windows Explorer keeps erroring out on some files (due to file names being too long or some other error). How can I use rsync or some other tool to copy over everything but skip the files that have already been copied?
[02:29] <kalio> this is mon0, i'm trying to remove it with ifconfig/ipconfig
[02:29] <daemongpl> wingy: so unity is interface (look) thats running on top of GNOME... so if your interested you may figure out how to replace it
[02:29] <jagginess> kalio, you're getting problems when trying to scan wlan0?
[02:29] <jagginess> wingy, oh
[02:30] <dietrichman> looking for a way to automount a network share on startup...
[02:30] <dietrichman> ubuntu 12.04
[02:30] <kalio> jagginess: no i'm not scanning anything anymore, wireshark is closed, when i was in wireshark though i got an error that it failed to remove the mon0 interface and to do so manually
[02:30] <Hotel_Guest> nfs?
[02:30] <dietrichman> yep
[02:30] <wingy> http://makeplaylive.com/
[02:30] <wingy> tablets with ubuntu
[02:31] <dietrichman> i am a newbie at this, dont mean to bother you guys...
[02:31] <cfhowlett> dietrichman: no worries.
[02:31] <Hotel_Guest> idk
[02:33] <squidnip_> so, I have a permissions/groups question
[02:33] <daemongpl> dietrichman: whats your command to open the network share?
[02:34] <squidnip_> I want to allow only certain users access to a folder, so I created a group titled folderaccess, and added those users to the group
[02:34] <dietrichman> i have been accessing network  shares via my home folder and then mounting it manually, the share set up isnt the problem, its setting up the automount in the terminal.....
[02:34] <squidnip_> then I changed the group of the folder to folderaccess
[02:35] <squidnip_> but users in that group still get permission denied. chmod on it is rwxrwx---
[02:36] <jagginess> squidnip_, well if you changed anything with "group" memberships, be sure to logout then relogin
[02:36] <squidnip_> accessing it from ssh, can i just jump out of the session and back in?
[02:37] <jagginess> squidnip_, ask a better question.. you obviously know that is a logoff
[02:37] <squidnip_> I'm new to this, but I tried it and it worked
[02:38] <jagginess> ok good, so it works.
[02:38] <squidnip_> awesome, thanks
[02:40] <squidnip_> more advanced question now: I'm doing this to ultimately mount an NFS share I'm setting up from my laptop
[02:40] <squidnip_> from my reading I have to sync the uids on them
[02:40] <squidnip_> did that, still getting permission denied errors even though the uids and usernames match
[02:41] <squidnip_> do i have to also create a matching group or something on my laptop (osx)?
[02:41] <unless> How can I remove a application which isn't listed at package list but installed from USC and ins't listed at USC as well?
[02:42] <ikonia> unless: if it's installed by usc, but not listed in usc or the package manager....you are mistaken
[02:42] <cfhowlett> unless: sudo apt-get purge foo.deb or sudo dpkg -r foo.deb IIRC
[02:42] <Kentos> what should i reference to make sure only one specific computer can be used as a remote access terminal
[02:43] <jron> I'm attempting to install a package (vsftpd) to migrate about 8 TB of data from an EOL server to a new LTS release via FXP... The apt-get is failing with a 404 which, after reading, is due to the release no longer being supported. As I'm only trying to install a package to get of this old release, is there a workaround to enable the installation of vsftpd? Thanks!
[02:43] <ikonia> Kentos: tcp wrappers or iptables, or sshd hosts
[02:43] <Nisstyre> Kentos: is this for ssh?
[02:43] <cfhowlett> unless: but ikonia is spot on.  USC packages are managed by USC ...
[02:43] <Nisstyre> Kentos: you can specify that in openssh.conf or w/e
[02:43] <Nisstyre> I think...
[02:43] <Kentos> yes for ssh
[02:43] <ikonia> jron: point at old-releases.ubuntu.com
[02:43] <Nisstyre> don't use tcpwrappers
[02:43] <Nisstyre> that is oooold
[02:43] <jron> ikonia not us.old-releases.ubuntu.com, correct?
[02:44] <ikonia> jron: no, old-releases.ubuntu.com
[02:44] <jron> ikonia, thank you. i'll give that a try now.
[02:45] <Nisstyre> Kentos: the best solution is to use ssh key authentication only
[02:45] <Nisstyre> Kentos: then only people with the correct private key can connect
[02:45] <ikonia> that won't limit it to one host
[02:45] <Nisstyre> no, it won't
[02:45] <ikonia> that will limit it to one key
[02:46] <ikonia> his request was to limit it to one host
[02:46] <Nisstyre> but it's a better solution imo
[02:46] <ikonia> not one user
[02:46] <ikonia> Nisstyre: no, it's not, if he wants to limit it to one host, then your solution is not what he asked for
[02:47] <elisa87> how can I open port 5900 for vnc? this doesn't work :  iptables -A INPUT -p tcp -d 0/0 -s 0/0 --dport 5900 -j ACCEPT
[02:47] <unless> cfhowlett, didn't work with the package name I've downloaded (virtualbox-4.1_4.1.22-80657~Ubuntu~precise_i386.deb)
[02:47] <Kentos> thank you guys, i was thinking about the authentication key poroccess, i had read up on ssh a while back and noticed it was implemented for higher security
[02:47] <ikonia> Kentos: there is nothing wrong with keys, it's a great tool, but it will not limit access from one host as you initially requested
[02:48] <Kentos> right now i have the host configured to only allow access to the port from one IP, but im not sure i set it correctly
[02:48] <jron> ikonia, you rock. thank you =)
[02:48] <cfhowlett> unless: dpkg -r foo.deb
[02:48] <Kentos> err the server, from one host IP
[02:48] <cfhowlett> unless: sudo dpkg -r foo.deb
[02:50] <RandomHat> quit
[02:50] <telesis> hello
[02:50] <cfhowlett> unless: per the dpkg man pages dpkg -r removes and --purge will, well, purge
[02:51] <cfhowlett> telesis: greetings
[02:51] <unless> cfhowlett, how do I know this package name?
[02:51] <telesis> has anyone installed ubuntu 12.04 on samsung series 3 laptop?
[02:51] <Hotel_Guest> --purge removes old packages of updates packages
[02:51] <cfhowlett> unless: it's the name you posted earlier ... virtualbox-etc-etc-etc.deb
[02:52] <cfhowlett> Hotel_Guest: ty
[02:53] <Hotel_Guest> updated*
[02:53] <unless> cfhowlett, if I use that name I get this error : dpkg: error: package name in specifier 'virtualbox-4.1_4.1.22-80657~Ubuntu~precise_i386.deb' is illegal: character `~' not allowed (only letters, digits and characters `-+._')
[02:53] <bkc_> !give bkc_ wiki ATI driver
[02:53]  * RoxAbout gives bkc_ a box of matches
[02:54] <Hotel_Guest> unless, just change it
[02:54] <unless> Hotel_Guest, like what?
[02:54] <cfhowlett> unless: quote marks around the package name or, as HG suggested, change
[02:54] <unless> Hotel_Guest, how ?
[02:55] <user_> list c
[02:55] <Hotel_Guest> unless, install from soft center
[02:55] <unless> Hotel_Guest, from SC it says I can only reinstall it.
[02:56] <Hotel_Guest> unless, whats wrong
[02:56] <unless> Hotel_Guest, I know that.
[02:57] <Hotel_Guest> unless, no.. what are you tring top do
[02:57] <Hotel_Guest> to do *
[02:58] <cfhowlett> unless: please restate the problem you're having
[02:58] <unless> cfhowlett, I cannot remove a package.
[02:59] <tpatt> who else likes the pic of the ubuntu girls?
[02:59] <unless> How do I install a package with is not the default ?
[02:59] <unless> Like I need to install the last version of a application ?
[03:00] <Hotel_Guest> unless, what distro u using
[03:00] <unless> Not sure why but VirtualBox is not working here.
[03:00] <jagginess> unless, google: "List of software <type of software> site:wikipedia.org" .. likely there are packages for those alternative applications
[03:00] <unless> Ubuntu
[03:00] <Hotel_Guest> unless, 12.04, 10.04
[03:00] <Hotel_Guest> ??
[03:00] <unless> 12.04
[03:01] <jagginess> unless, it's very rare for programs to become obsolete or replaced by something better, but often they're still packaged
[03:01] <unless> jagginess, I got a package at the developer website but it still not working.
[03:01] <Hotel_Guest> unless, unless, did you install?
[03:01] <jagginess> unless, or sometimes they may be in multiverse/3rd partner repos.. so just add all the repos with 'Update manager'
[03:03] <cfhowlett> unless: virtualbox is in the universe repo.  Current version is 4.1.12 ...
[03:03] <Hotel_Guest> unless, sudo apt-get update
[03:04] <hippyjake> anyone know of a gui for dd?
[03:04] <iateadonut> what are you trying to do?
[03:04] <Hotel_Guest> how to disable these processes>>> http://imgh.us/lsof-i.jpg
[03:04] <iateadonut> you don't really need a gui, i think
[03:04] <SillyTalker> is there a way to change the default session to lxde, without logging out? i just want to set it so that the next times i boot it will be lxde
[03:05] <Hotel_Guest> hippyjake, no
[03:05] <gswain> anyone know if 12.04 arm is stable?
[03:05] <iateadonut> but gparted might give you a visual of your partitions, if that's what you're looking for, hippyjake
[03:05] <hippyjake> i dont (lazy tho)
[03:05] <cfhowlett> SillyTalker: pretty sure whatever DE is running at logout is default on re-login...
[03:05] <Hotel_Guest> hippyjake, oops clonezilla
[03:05] <hippyjake> its for my pi
[03:05] <iateadonut> dd is like the laziest command there is - it'd be even more trouble to use a gui
[03:06] <hippyjake> haha you have a point
[03:06] <SillyTalker> cfhowlett: i know this lol
[03:06] <SillyTalker> but this doesnt help me
[03:06] <SillyTalker> i run a chroot image and its somehow setup to autologin, only autologin is disabled...
[03:06] <SillyTalker> so i cannot choose a session when logging out
[03:06] <cfhowlett> SillyTalker: then I misunderstood your qeustion.  sorry.
[03:06] <SillyTalker> so.... how do i do this through CLI...
[03:08] <Hotel_Guest> sillytalker, you mean logging in??
[03:08] <SillyTalker> Hotel_Guest: nope
[03:08] <SillyTalker> Hotel_Guest: i mean setting the default session, i want it to be LXDE
[03:08] <SillyTalker> not unity garbage
[03:10] <Hotel_Guest> sillytalker, lxde soo boot into
[03:10] <Hotel_Guest> idk
[03:10] <SillyTalker> Hotel_Guest: wth does that even mean lol?
[03:10] <Hotel_Guest> idk
[03:10] <Hotel_Guest> lol
[03:11] <Hotel_Guest> im a sillytalker
[03:13] <Hotel_Guest> sillytalker, http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/applications/468958-how-set-lxde-default-environment.html
[03:13] <shadedpixel> Hello :)
[03:13] <Hotel_Guest> hi
[03:13] <cfhowlett> shadedpixel: greetings
[03:13] <SillyTalker> Hotel_Guest: i'll check it out thanks
[03:14] <shadedpixel> How is everyone this evening (atleast for me)
[03:15] <tottiq> shadedpixel, great
[03:15] <shadedpixel> Good to hear, just finished installing ubuntu minimal
[03:16] <tottiq> shadedpixel, minimal cd?
[03:16] <shadedpixel> tottiq, yes
[03:16] <tottiq> first time I hear about minimal, lol
[03:17] <tottiq> is it good?
[03:17] <shadedpixel> tottiq, its basiclly a base install of ubuntu (no GUI, pre-install software, etc.)
[03:17] <SillyTalker> how do i kill all the unity crap?
[03:17] <SillyTalker> please
[03:17] <OerHeks> !nounity
[03:17] <SillyTalker> Hotel_Guest: startlxde works fine but i still need to kill the unity crap now
[03:18] <Hotel_Guest> hey any idea how to disable these processes>>> http://imgh.us/lsof-i.jpg
[03:18] <tottiq> SillyTalker, read the bot msg
[03:18] <shadedpixel> tottiq, and i like it :D
[03:18] <tottiq> so how does it looks like?
[03:19] <cadeonehalf> I don't suppose anyone here is intimately familiar with sound problems in 12.04?
[03:19] <SillyTalker> tottiq: what msg.. ?
[03:19] <tottiq> !nounity
[03:19] <SillyTalker> ty
[03:19] <tottiq> SillyTalker, that msg
[03:19] <cfhowlett> cadeonehalf: ask in #ubuntustudio as well
[03:19] <SillyTalker> i dont wanna use gnome
[03:19] <cadeonehalf> cfhowlett: ty
[03:19] <SillyTalker> i wanna use lxde
[03:20] <Hotel_Guest> gnome is bad @ss
[03:20] <OerHeks> SillyTalker, LXDE standard does not come with unity.
[03:20] <shadedpixel> I like gnome, it just uses to much memory
[03:21] <SillyTalker> OerHeks: i know, so i wanna get rid of unity, and use LXDE
[03:21] <OerHeks> SillyTalker, install lubuntu-desktop, logout, change GDM to LXDE and login again
[03:22] <shadedpixel> SillyTalker, what OerHeks said :D
[03:22] <SillyTalker> OerHeks: for some sick reason i cannot pick my session when i login, and autologin is disabled
[03:22] <SillyTalker> i'm using a prebuilt chroot
[03:22] <SillyTalker> it logs in automatically
[03:23] <SillyTalker> is there no config file or anything i can use for this?
[03:23] <gswain> Is anyone running the ARM port? is it stable?
[03:24] <OerHeks> you can logout anytime. that is not automatic.
[03:24] <altusanew> Hey I just wanted to send a shout out to whoever packaged the latest Chromium updates that I got tonight. Not sure if the specific people who were involved are on here tonight but if someone here knows who that was and could maybe pass it along, I just wanted to say thanks.
[03:24] <OerHeks> !arm | gswain
[03:26] <SillyTalker> Oerheks, no it just gives me a black screen when i log out
[03:26] <SillyTalker> Oerheks, but i can restart if that helps
[03:26] <SillyTalker> Oerheks, where should i change gdm to lxde?
[03:27] <ClientAlive> there's something funny going on with my sticky bt. There's 3 directories. All 3 have identical perms but one has a capital T and the other have a lower t (all are drwxrwx--) then then thing with the sticky bit as I described. What on earth is going on with this?
[03:28] <cadeonehalf> well, ubuntustudio is slow right now, so I'll try my luck here
[03:29] <cadeonehalf> running a Macbook Pro 3,1 and I have no sound out of speakers, and (sometimes) whisper-quiet sound from headphones. I've added the model code to the alsa-base.conf file, installed (and later un-installed) pulseaudio, and any other trick I could find in the guides from 2008-ish.
[03:30] <ClientAlive> I figured it out  lol  :o
[03:31] <ClientAlive> cam someone help me figure out why I have to run sudo on commands like mkdir and mount (normal everyday commands)  ??
[03:31] <aeon-ltd> ClientAlive: are you working outside ~ ?
[03:32] <shadedpixel> uit
[03:32] <shadedpixel> quit
[03:32] <shadedpixel> q
[03:32] <shadedpixel> exit
[03:32] <FloodBot1> shadedpixel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:35] <ClientAlive> aeon-ltd: If by outside you mean ssh or something, then no. I'm physically on this coputer. I fig that one out too though (about why I had to use sudo). Seems to me there is something funny going on with using my system though. I'd swear that after using chown and chmod to set a directory to my user then reboot it sets it back to root and whatever perms they were before.
[03:35] <luoluoluo> hi there, I'm using 12.04, and upgrading to 3.2.0-30-generic.  But the upgrade program keeps running for over 1.5 hours and not finish yet.  I discover that a program called depmod is running and occupied 100% of my cpu all the time.  Previous upgrade didn't take such a long time.  Any of you experience this?
[03:35] <ClientAlive> outside my home directory you meant. Well actually I am atm. Working in /mnt
[03:37] <ClientAlive> well, I think I undrstand what you were getting at aeon-ltd and I get what's going on here. thx man
[03:43] <ClientAlive> Is there a way to set the system up so every time I create a directory it gives it the perms drwxdrwx---    rather than drwxdrwxr-x  ??
[03:43] <ClientAlive> so it gives those perms I want automatically when the directory is created?
[03:47] <rsw>  #vbox
[03:48] <zeeeero> hello/
[03:48] <cfhowlett> zeeeero: greetings
[03:49] <zeeeero> Im having some permission problems think you can help
[03:50] <chillpil1_> yes go
[03:50] <zeeeero> I have a headless ubuntu server 12.04 and am trying to share a partition through samba
[03:50] <zeeeero> BUT I cant change the permission on the folder that I own and the files in it.
[03:50] <chillpil1_> very good
[03:51] <Hotel_Guest> hi
[03:51] <SillyTalker> can i change the default session without loggin out? (i do not get the menu topick my session, i'm running a premade chroot, and autologin seems to be disabled)
[03:52] <zeeeero> in theory if I gksudo and I have sudo rights into nautilus and right click and go to the permissions tab and change all to read write exacute thin tic apply to all sub folder or what ever it says there it should work.
[03:52] <Hotel_Guest> you can do anything to a folder in nautilus
[03:52] <zeeeero> but it automaticly reverts back to no access
[03:54] <zeeeero> confirm thats a can and not a cant please
[03:54] <zeeeero> lo
[03:54] <zeeeero> l
[03:55] <Hotel_Guest> can
[03:55] <chillpil1_> no which computer?
[03:55] <chillpil1_> can you ssh into box?
[03:55] <zeeeero> yes
[03:55] <Becket> Guys who can tell at the moment with the phone sitting ... Generally, after the monitor is determined by the installed ubuntu! After installing the driver, he offers me, the monitor is not detected ... sorry for the English ...
[03:55] <Hotel_Guest> thats odd
[03:55] <zeeeero> I thought so.
[03:55] <chillpil1_> did you change permission in ssh?
[03:56] <zeeeero> its not TRUELY head less I obvously got gnome core installed just to do what I KNOW in nautilus to GKsudo since you cant gksudo in ssh
[03:56] <chillpil1_> from which computer? ssh name@ipaddress
[03:56] <Hotel_Guest> zeeeero, type sudo -i in terminal and then use gksudo nautilus and change folder perm.
[03:57] <chillpil1_> so you have desktop access then no need for ssh
[03:57] <zeeeero> gksudo directly from server with screen attached loged in through gsm
[03:58] <zeeeero> it will be headless...forget the headless part for now.
[03:58] <zeeeero> sry
[03:58] <chillpil1_> k
[03:58] <chillpil1_> then you want access from another computer?
[03:59] <chillpil1_> to samba
[03:59] <zeeeero> its also a ntfs partition
[03:59] <chillpil1_> well thats the problem then :)
[03:59] <zeeeero> yes I want to use it as a mapped drive
[03:59] <chillpil1_> sorry im not sure some here may have an idea
[04:00] <chillpil1_> ntfs can be a problem
[04:00] <Hotel_Guest> try windows
[04:00] <zeeeero> :'(
[04:00] <Hotel_Guest> #
[04:00] <chillpil1_> it is a problem with mac too and i thnk the same for linux
[04:00] <xubumafoo> ntfs is the best to use when sharing with windows, otherwise, hfs+
[04:01] <zeeeero> I left windows for LEANiancy lol
[04:01] <chillpil1_> if the drive is empty then just reformat. if it not empty then....
[04:02] <shuttlewortth> i went to remove a folder in /usr/local but the delete/trash option was greyed out. why is that?
[04:02] <zeeeero> alright I has an external terra could I back it all up to that and format problematic partition to (please suggest) then do everything accordingly?
[04:02] <chillpil1_> its midnight here and I am now a pumpkin
[04:02] <silverarrow> is there something like unblock us for ubuntu?
[04:03] <chillpil1_> GN all
[04:03] <xubumafoo> shuttlewortth: chmod 777 the folder
[04:03] <chillpil1_> yes keep working it. your on the right track
[04:03] <chillpil1_> GN
[04:03] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow: unblock us?
[04:04] <zeeeero> thank you good night :)
[04:04] <silverarrow> GN?
[04:04] <shuttlewortth> xubumafoo, will i be doing that for every other folder i want to get rid of?
[04:04] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, yeah, you can watch blocked sites tv and related
[04:04] <IsmAvatar> hey guys, I'm wondering how I might enable Java on my firewall so I can host a java game on my LAN
[04:05] <shuttlewortth> it says Im not the owner yet i installed the OS
[04:05] <zeeeero> sudo -i then cd to folder then rm "foldername"
[04:05] <zeeeero> right
[04:06] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:you mean like a firefox addon? or a proxy program?
[04:07] <xubumafoo> shuttlewortth:  chmod -R 777
[04:07] <SteveThing> anyone have any experience with ubuntu server and rancid?
[04:07] <lotuspsychje> !server | SteveThing
[04:07] <xubumafoo> recursive for the whole dir tree
[04:07] <Canuckian> !networking > Canuckian
[04:08] <SteveThing> thanx
[04:08] <zeeeero> specifically -R or will -r work
[04:08] <silverarrow> I suppose a proxy program, it has to work, fast enough server for flash streams to work http://unblock-us.com/
[04:08] <zeeeero> I will need that latter too
[04:08] <shuttlewortth> cannot remove, is a directory
[04:08] <xubumafoo> what did you do?
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:there a cheap fast swedish vpn for ubuntu called mullvad
[04:09] <shuttlewortth> rm "directory"
[04:09] <xubumafoo> rmdir
[04:09] <Canuckian> ok folks, quick question. I have two laptops on a home wireless network, one running ubuntu 11.10, the other running 12.04. whats the best way to connect them in order to transfer files?
[04:09] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, have you tried it?
[04:09] <zeeeero> ah sry
[04:09] <zeeeero> close :0
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:try software centre and on their web, yes theres a free trial
[04:09] <shuttlewortth> failed. directory not empty
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:maybe 1% speed loss
[04:10] <silverarrow> worth trying
[04:10] <shuttlewortth> isnt this a bit tedious?
[04:10]  * silverarrow searches for mullvad
[04:10] <Cell> Hi, I want to know if it's possible to encrypt my / and /home file system in an existing Ubuntu installation?
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> !encryption | Cell
[04:11] <kelbizzle> I just installed xvkbd via APT and I thought it would be store in /usr/bin/xvkdb . Anyone know where else it may be stored?
[04:11] <xubumafoo> rm -r
[04:11] <zeeeero> why encrypt something that opensorce
[04:11]  * Canuckian is away: afk. pls msg me and i'll reply when i return
[04:11] <bazhang> Canuckian, disable that
[04:11] <Cell> Thanks
[04:11]  * xubumafoo kills Canuckian
[04:11]  * Canuckian is back (gone 00:00:18)
[04:11] <bazhang> zeeeero, that does not make sense
[04:12] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, not a thing in package manager?
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> !info mullvad
[04:12] <Cell> lotuspsychje: that link is for ubuntu 8
[04:12] <th3ic3man0> hi
[04:12] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:sorry you need to install the client from their web
[04:12] <alpre> kelbizzle: in ubuntu.packages website, you can see contents of the packages
[04:12] <silverarrow> lol
[04:12] <th3ic3man0> need some help
[04:13] <xubumafoo> shuttlewortth:  http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=940306
[04:13] <luoluoluo> hello~~
[04:13] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, darn, I need to build package locally probably
[04:13] <zeeeero> sry tired I ment freely available to everyone
[04:13] <mjuszczak> I'm trying to remove msttcorefonts ... I installed ubuntu-restricted-extras and now all of my firefox fonts look really bad.  There is no way to remove them though, as the package is just an installer.  Any ideas?
[04:13] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, I am on ppc
[04:13] <th3ic3man0> can anyone help me with my phpbb?
[04:13] <shuttlewortth> rm -rf did the trick
[04:13] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:apple?
[04:13] <th3ic3man0> i know this is an ubuntu room but i installed my phpbb on ubuntu
[04:14] <silverarrow> yes
[04:14] <bazhang> zeeeero, what are you trying to change permissions on, what filesystem
[04:14] <alpre> mjuszczak: look in ~/.fonts
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:sorry mate this is ubuntu support only
[04:14] <shuttlewortth> doing it with the gui would have been less time consuming though
[04:14] <th3ic3man0> does anyone know how to access phpmyadmin from ubuntu?
[04:14] <mjuszczak> ls: cannot access .fonts: No such file or directory
[04:14] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow: you also asked for ubuntu package right
[04:15] <mjuszczak> looks like they are in /usr/share/fonts... can I just remove them?
[04:15] <alpre> mjuszczak: don't know, maybe system settings, fonts
[04:15] <xubumafoo>   #phpbb
[04:15] <zeeeero> its ntfs and I can change the owner but nothing else. it just reverts back to no acces
[04:15] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, yes for ubuntu ppc
[04:15] <bazhang> zeeeero, you want to set linux permissions on a ntfs filesystem?
[04:15] <mjuszczak> is there a way with apt to see what files it installs?
[04:16] <zeeeero> It was a 2nd partition and 1st par was winxp
[04:16] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:they got a .deb file downloadable, did you try?
[04:16] <bazhang> zeeeero, is that a 'yes' or a 'no'
[04:16] <xubumafoo> http://askubuntu.com/questions/11840/how-to-chmod-on-an-ntfs-or-fat32-partition
[04:17] <Cell> Does anyone know to encrypt my / and /home file system in an existing Ubuntu installation?
[04:17] <zeeeero> I installed ubuntu server over windows and kept all my files becuase xp is not made to be a server
[04:17] <lotuspsychje> Cell:did you even read the url i pasted you?
[04:17] <Cell> yes
[04:17] <Cell> I dont think that was what I uswed last time
[04:17] <zeeeero> yes
[04:18] <th3ic3man0> thanks xubumafoo
[04:18] <lotuspsychje> Cell: what about describing more what you need
[04:18] <mjuszczak> worked!
[04:18] <mjuszczak> thanks!
[04:18] <kelbizzle> Thanks alpre tells me all about the package but not where it's installed. My goto place is synaptic.
[04:19] <zeeeero> I can share the folder and you can wrx from the network from windows machine but you can not see any other files that used to be there. only the ones you have made post ubuntu
[04:19] <zeeeero> I was working on it
[04:19] <alpre> kelbizzle: on the website, you can click on list of files at the bottom for each package
[04:20] <Cell> lotuspsychje: the ubuntu installer comes with an option to encrypt your home directory but for whatever reason, it didn't encrypt my home directory this time. I want to encrypt the entire file system, including my hone directory (im the only user). I have other partitions on the HD that are windows so I dont think I can do a full disk encryption either
[04:20] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, I`m never sure of ppc needs different packages or not
[04:20] <daemongpl> encrypt | Cell
[04:20] <kelbizzle> alpre, I see now thank you.
[04:20] <alpre> np :)
[04:20] <kelbizzle> hmm it is installed there.
[04:20] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:if the ppc got ubuntu installed, its an ubuntu pc you can install debs yes
[04:21] <Cell> daemongpl ?
[04:21] <kelbizzle> strange I just reinstalled via apt and it's now showing up.
[04:21] <daemongpl> cell: oops
[04:21] <daemongpl> !encrypt | Cell
[04:22] <kelbizzle> alpre, you ever heard of an install being corrupt while installing via apt?
[04:22] <Cell> I was just on that page
[04:24] <daemongpl> Cell: try this then http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/encrypt-home-folder-ubuntu-installation-linux/
[04:24] <alpre> kelbizzle: not really, maybe with a bad connection?
[04:25] <kelbizzle> makes sense.
[04:25] <maxagaz> what is the name of the text format that you have to code ?
[04:26] <maxagaz> I forgot... very famous, very old
[04:26] <alpre> kelbizzle: I don't know, I'd guess the installedr checks the md5 sum or something
[04:26] <xubumafoo> the attributes are not set to hidden?
[04:27] <kelbizzle> alpre, it's cool. I'm not gonna rack my brain over it. You helped me though. For years I've used synaptic to located files and I could have been using the package site the entire time.
[04:27] <Cell> any ops in here?
[04:28] <kelbizzle> I tried find but it turned up nothing.
[04:28] <bazhang> cell #ubuntu-ops
[04:28] <kelbizzle> why do you ask Cell ?
[04:28] <maxagaz> nobody can recall this file format to edit text ?
[04:29] <zeeeero> thats still only encrypting /home but if you were to encrypt the / "root"... why... if you want to encrypt something that your have made and installed maybe ask if you can encrypt just that. no need to encypt something even I have already downloaded.
[04:29] <Cell> see me in #ubuntu-ops kelbizzle
[04:29] <daemongpl> maxagaz: what do you mean "file format to edit text"
[04:29] <maxagaz> daemongpl: like txt, csv, rtf
[04:30] <maxagaz> daemongpl: the kind of format that your computer teacher wants you to use to write documents
[04:31] <jerry_l> hello room.
[04:31] <maxagaz> LaTex!
[04:33] <lotuspsychje> maxagaz:wrong channel for that
[04:34] <jerry_l> hello room. i have a situation. i need to triple boot a linux 32bit,xp32bit,win7x64 any one know a good page to get directioins from?
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | jerry_l
[04:35] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, very bad idea
[04:35] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:?
[04:35] <jerry_l> double dual boot. ?
[04:35] <silverarrow> with the mullvad install
[04:36] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:why's that?
[04:36] <jerry_l> thnks. looking.
[04:36] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, well, it`s like it was never installed, but it shows in menu
[04:37] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:it works for me..did you run it as root?
[04:37] <Guest43458> hello, is there any downside to 'upgrading' to Lubuntu or Xubuntu from Ubuntu via apt versus a fresh install?  I'm a bit confused because they seem to be presented as unique operating systems but are they actually just GUI wrappers with different resource requirements and features?
[04:37] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, I installed with package installer?
[04:38] <lotuspsychje> Guest43458: its always recommended to clean install new ubuntu version
[04:38] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, yeah, when lunched from terminal all it seems to do is reinstall
[04:39] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:if you downloaded from web, software centre should open to install.
[04:39] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, yes, I have, and it even shows in menu-internet
[04:40] <lotuspsychje> Guest43458:first choose the right system for you lubuntu or xubuntu, then clean install
[04:40] <silverarrow> Guest43458, you hesitate to upgrade ?
[04:40] <nokia> nouveau graphics driver. How do i  add resolutions not detected and make them permanent
[04:41] <lotuspsychje> !xrandr | nokia
[04:41] <Guest43458> K that makes sense to me but sites like this just say to install via apt http://www.techdrivein.com/2011/05/top-4-lightweight-official-ubuntu-based.html
[04:42] <Guest43458> I've found Ubuntu runs slow on my Dad's computer so I'm looking for less resource hungry options
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> Guest43458:yes you can install lubuntu-desktop from within ubuntu, but it will slow down your box
[04:42] <lotuspsychje> Guest43458:highly recomended downloading lubuntu and fresh install
[04:43] <Guest43458> ok cool, thanks :)
[04:43] <alpre> Guest43458: you'd have to look through and remove gnow packages I'd guess
[04:43] <alpre> gnomw
[04:43] <nokia> there is xorg.conf for nvidia. Where do i find the Nouveau equivalent to add resolutions
[04:43] <Guest43458> right… probably better to just do fresh install than shotgun surgery of packages ;)
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> Guest43458, It depends on your skill level all of those desktops can be removed and be replaced by the other, with pkg install lists, as far as speed I have nevr noticed any didderence.
[04:45] <wilee-nilee> s/speed/difference
[04:46] <alpre> well unity, gnome does like to use over 700MB it seems, maybe more RAM needed
[04:47] <alpre> Guest43458: then just installing lxde and choosing it at login would help still instead of reinstalling
[04:47] <WeThePeople> hi
[04:49] <Guest43458> alpre: I'd probably upgrade the ram but the system uses rd-ram and that stuff is rare and expensive now. ( well IIRC it was always expensive, just not as rare )
[04:50] <lotuspsychje> Guest43458:lubuntu on an older system installed on ssd hd will go rocket fast
[04:50] <nokia> does anyone here use Nouveau driver with Nvidia card?
[04:52] <kunji> Hey everyone, I have 2 lines that keep reappearing in my iptables rules, it would be awesome if someone could help me figure out why this happens.  The lines are  4      263 14212 REJECT     all  --  *      eth0    0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0           reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[04:52] <kunji> 5        0     0 REJECT     all  --  eth0   *       0.0.0.0/0            0.0.0.0/0           reject-with icmp-port-unreachable
[04:53] <lotuspsychje> !firewall | kunji
[04:54] <drupin> just got a new ubuntustudio youtube plays with frames in google chrome
[04:54] <kunji> lotuspsychje, hmm, ufw just modifies of it's own volition?  Also I'm pretty sure I had turned off ufw, does it restart itself?
[04:55] <kunji> Does ufw appear in the process name for ufw?  Because a ps ax | grep ufw doesn't return anything
[04:57] <jerry_l> anyone found the answer to crazy KVM mouse. i heard a capacitor can fix the problem.
[05:00] <kunji> lotuspsychje: I'm not sure what you were trying to get at by throwing some manuals at me....  There is nothing in them about this behavior, it is not reverting on reboot, it is reverting (possibly periodically) while still booted and running.
[05:01] <kunji> It seems to revert within 24 hours, but I haven't been testing that very long yet.
[05:01] <kunji> *that long yet
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> kunji: the url i pasted you shows howto config iptables right
[05:05] <lotuspsychje> kunji:if you dont find the right answer please describe your problem in channel once in a while
[05:05] <kunji> But I know how to merely configure it, and my question wasn't how to configure it.  I did describe the problem...
[05:06] <lotuspsychje> kunji:yes and if you pastebin it once in a while other users might wanna help you too
[05:06] <kunji> The problem is quite straightforward, I know I didn't attach reams of data, but reams of data isn't necessary here.
[05:07] <joejack> what is the command to see what wireless driver is loaded
[05:08] <susundbe1g> joejack: dmesg will show the prints the driver might made
[05:08] <kunji> I have used pastebin plenty in the past, I think this is pretty much just you being condescending because you assume the problem is me making a rookie mistake that isn't worth your time :P
[05:08] <susundbe1g> and 'iwconfig' should show the device
[05:08] <joejack> my wirless was working great but now I can't connect
[05:09] <lotuspsychje> kunji: no need to make early conclusions mate, just paste your problem(with or without pastebin) in channel once in a while
[05:10] <kunji> I don't see what you're getting at... I did exactly what you're saying, I did post the problem in channel.  (or has someone else been using my nick and being an ass with it?)
[05:11] <joejack> someone want to help me debug my wireless probs?
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> !patience | joejack
[05:11] <lotuspsychje> kunji: sudo ufw status
[05:12] <kunji> Thanks, the result is:     Status: inactive
[05:13] <joejack> it is showing the wireless spots but it is not connecting
[05:14] <lotuspsychje> joejack:try to look in /var/log/syslog whats happening to your wireless
[05:15] <jerry_l> sorry jack i was not paying attiton, i have found that on occasions i must disable increption then connect and then reEnable encryption on my router.
[05:17] <yakko> hey, Im trying to do an ssh tunneling with my Vps
[05:17] <yakko> can anybody help?
[05:17] <xubumafoo>  #ssh
[05:17] <yakko> all I get is this
[05:17] <yakko> The connection was reset
[05:17] <yakko> The connection to the server was reset while the page was loading.
[05:17] <yakko> oh thanks
[05:17] <FloodBot1> yakko: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:18] <lotuspsychje> yakko: http://www.aprillins.org/view/21/how-to-connect-vps-with-ssh-from-ubuntu-terminal
[05:19] <joejack> lotuspsychje yeah well I don't know what it means
[05:19] <yakko> lotuspsychje: do you actually rely on that site or did you just google for it?
[05:20] <xubumafoo> hey be thankful he was nice enough to google it for ya
[05:20] <lotuspsychje> joejack:you could pastebin it and describe your problem in channel once in a while
[05:20] <yakko> xubumafoo: thats not even what I asked for
[05:21] <yakko> Im from Brazil, Im in America right now and they blocked all non american websites in the hotel, so I need to use a proxy
[05:21] <lotuspsychje> xubumafoo: you know howto fix a square corrupt mouse pointer on every cold boot?
[05:21] <jerry_l> http://www.aprillins.org/view/259/content-copy-protection-by-using-simple-javascript
[05:22] <drupin> you tube video playing in frames
[05:22] <lotuspsychje> drupin: you installed flash correclty?
[05:23] <drupin> i didnt installed flash yet.
[05:23] <kunji> jerry_l: I don't think I've ever seen proper copy protection with javascript, I'm pretty sure it's actually impossible
[05:23] <WeThePeople> yakko, i think a cgi proxy maybe
[05:23] <drupin> but i got google chrome
[05:23] <drupin> and the flash is pre installed
[05:23] <yakko> WeThePeople: Im following this but its not working http://wiki.vpslink.com/Instant_SOCKS_Proxy_over_SSH
[05:23] <lotuspsychje> drupin: try installing flash or ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:23] <drupin> ok
[05:24] <WeThePeople> yakko, this might work>>> http://cgiproxy.at/
[05:24] <lotuspsychje> guys, lets stick to ubuntu support problems
[05:25] <drupin> eir: Unable to locate package ubuntu-restricted-extras
[05:25] <drupin> lotuspsychje: its not reading
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> !info ubuntu-restricted-extras | drupin
[05:26] <lotuspsychje> drupin: on what ubuntu version are you?
[05:28] <drupin> lotuspsychje: ubuntu studio 12.04
[05:29] <lotuspsychje> drupin: try #ubuntustudio
[05:29] <drupin> i am there
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> drupin: im not sure we can support ubuntu studio
[05:30] <drupin> ok lotuspsychje
[05:30] <lotuspsychje> drupin: i would go for adobe flash plugin first
[05:31] <drupin> ok how i install it or update it?
[05:31] <WeThePeople> drupin, its in soft center
[05:31] <WeThePeople> adobe
[05:31] <lotuspsychje> drupin:on web or software centre
[05:31] <drupin> where?
[05:32] <kunji> Just search for it in the software center
[05:32] <yakko> WeThePeople: it doesnt work for some of my ajax requests, but I was able to solve the problem, thanks =D
[05:32] <WeThePeople> np
[05:35] <WeThePeople> hi
[05:40] <ryzzan> entify tntlrefo@1980
[05:40] <szal> yeah right
[05:42] <RegexRon> Pogbot: WTF!
[05:42] <lotuspsychje> !polite | RegexRon
[05:43] <RegexRon> lotuspsychje: huh?
[05:43] <RegexRon> was testing my bot, fuck ubuntu...
[05:43] <lotuspsychje> lol
[05:45] <kunji> Well... I've checked all my cron jobs now, absolutely nothing related to iptables, so I'm stumped
[05:45] <orated> Hello! How can I get bash history of a single day? cat ~/.bash_history | grep ? ?
[05:45] <lotuspsychje> kunji: i really sugest you start reading iptables howto
[05:45] <auh> hi
[05:46] <Fahad_> Hi all. I have a problem. After upgrade form ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04, the mouse is behaving strangely. Double click doesn't work. any help?
[05:47] <kunji> lotuspsychje: I don't know why you think I haven't already read it, because I have at least skimmed it, and have read anything that seemed like it might be relevant.  Granted that is not completely thorough, but I'm curious what you think I will find in there.
[05:47] <lotuspsychje> IdleOne:is there like a channel that manages bot triggers of #ubuntu? some users reported outdated info
[05:49] <Guest82997> hi
[05:49] <jaypro> hey guys. i installed opensuse 12.2 with two 1TB harddrives in a raid1 config. when i turned on the computer this morning, suse was unable to boot. now im running ubuntu live cd with the hopes of mounting the harddrive so that i can back up the data that is currently on the two harddrives
[05:49] <jaypro> however, i was unable to mount the drives. how do i mount the hard drives that are raid1 config?
[05:50] <kunji> In fact lotuspsychje, I suppose I should restate my question.  How should I go about finding what modified an arbitrary file on my system (or in the case of iptables it may actually even be an arbitrary place in memory).
[05:51] <IdleOne> lotuspsychje: sorry, I'm not sure what you are talking about
[05:52] <lotuspsychje> Idle0ne:well a user said yesterday !ssh trigger was a bit outdated, so i thought maybe there's a channel for reporting such?
[05:52] <IdleOne> lotuspsychje: oh, you can use #ubuntu-bots and you can suggest edits to the factoids via /msg with ubottu . The syntax is !factoid is <reply> Some useful info or edit
[05:53] <lotuspsychje> Idle0ne:tnx that was usefull!
[05:53] <IdleOne> sure thing
[05:54] <lotuspsychje> !factoid > lotuspsychje
[06:03] <adheblack> hy
[06:05] <lwizardl> I have had problems with getting the mythbuntu and mythtv packages to work under ubuntu properly. Is there another package/system that I could try ?
[06:05] <drupin> software centre there is no adobe flash plugin
[06:06] <lotuspsychje> Idle0ne:can we support ubuntu studio in here?
[06:06] <m3pow> for firefox ?
[06:06] <kunji> There totally is drupin, I have it pulled up in front of me right now.
[06:07] <drupin> kunji: i am on ubuntustudio does it affect
[06:08] <kunji> it might, I use the vanilla ubuntu, I don't think I ever got around to trying UbuntuStudio
[06:09] <kunji> Are your sources just messed up then drupin?  Do you get errors when you run:   sudo apt-get update    ?
[06:10] <drupin> no its fine
[06:12] <kunji> drupin, can you maybe find the package in the Synaptic Package Manager?
[06:13] <drupin> i changed the server to us now
[06:13] <drupin> let me see
[06:13] <rapstudio> my laptop heats up very high at 80degrees on ubuntu studio. what should i do?
[06:14] <kunji> What part of your laptop rapstudio?  Also is that C or F?
[06:14] <rapstudio> plz help
[06:15] <tedrick> 80f would be nice
[06:15] <kunji> I know, right?
[06:15] <anternat2> hi, i cannot boot into my 12.04 server, i spoiled grub i guess.: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1198055/
[06:16] <anternat2> any suggestions
[06:16] <ph1rmw4r3> cant you live cd boot and restore grub?
[06:17] <anternat2> i am on live cd demo now
[06:17] <hateball> !fixgrub
[06:17] <anternat2> i got my xp back
[06:18] <jerry_l> omg pirana 2010 this movie had so much blood... at least it had a happy ending.
[06:19] <kunji> anternat2: This will probably do it for you: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:20] <wilee-nilee> anternat2, was sda5 the server?
[06:20] <drupin> kung: is it Adobe Flash plugin for Mozilla names? u talking about
[06:20] <anternat2> kunji: my case was playing with partitions actually
[06:20] <drupin> kunji:  is it Adobe Flash plugin for Mozilla names? u talking about
[06:21] <anternat2> i ruined the mbr
[06:21] <kunji> That sounds like the one drupin
[06:21] <penster> how do you install windows with unetbootin
[06:21] <drupin> kunji: not plugin i need player...
[06:22] <LorSamPau_w> penster, you can't
[06:22] <drupin> also on google chrome nor mozilla
[06:22] <kunji> The plugin is the player drupin, it's what plays it in Firefox
[06:22] <kunji> It should be built in on Chrome, no?
[06:22] <penster> hmmm, is there a tool to do so?
[06:22] <rapstudio> kunji : f
[06:22] <LorSamPau_w> penster, what windows version?
[06:22] <penster> win7
[06:22] <drupin> means?
[06:22] <kunji> rapstudio, I don't think you have a problem then.
[06:22] <anternat2> wilee-nilee: yes sda5 was the server
[06:22] <penster> I tried with unetbootin... failed
[06:23] <kunji> Unetbootin can be finicky, I sometimes have to try several times before it works correctly
[06:23] <ph1rmw4r3> ^
[06:23] <LorSamPau_w> penster, for win7 you just must format your usbflash to fat32/ntfs, then copy content of the iso and then in gparted add boot flag on the partition
[06:24] <penster> yea, thats why i kept trying
[06:24] <penster> LorSamPau_w, ill try that
[06:24] <penster> thanks
[06:24] <kunji> Oh windows actually has it's own tool for making a bootable usb, I don't think Unetbootin works for that one
[06:24] <rapstudio> i have a radeon graphic card...and its also at 80 degrees ....just close to the critical temp....i haven't updated the drivers for my graphic card thogh..is that a problem
[06:25] <penster> kunji, do you know the name of the tool
[06:25] <wilee-nilee> anternat2, sda5 is showing as a unknown file type, it isn't mounting at the least, the script is empty of any info on grub consequently.
[06:25] <kunji> But rapstudio, 80 F is not close to critical for a graphics card, if it was 80 C it would be
[06:25] <LorSamPau_w> penster, it will work... i tried that for win7 and win8... works every time
[06:26] <kunji> Hmm, I haven't had the same experience as you LorSamPau_w, but it can't hurt trying.  I don't remember the name of the tool, lemme google around and see if I can find it again.
[06:26] <rapstudio> i don't what is c and f.
[06:26] <rapstudio> i just guessed earlier
[06:26] <kunji> Celsius and Farenheit
[06:26] <penster> LorSamPau_w, maybe i just need the hp usb format tool. everytime i installed with unetbootin my usb would boot to purple ubuntu screen with only default as option
[06:27] <Phiscribe> does one use the ubuntu bug reporting mechanism for kubuntu?  its seems to have changed lately.  the desktop cd iso's are too large to burn.
[06:27] <anternat2> yes wilee-nilee : showing as unknown type, i think i have marked it with other software trying to rescue it. but it is definitely where mt linux lies
[06:27] <rapstudio> its 80 degree celsius
[06:27] <kunji> The measurements are probably Celsius, but I just went with what you said, which was F, yeah 80 C is a problem
[06:28] <rapstudio> then what shud i do?
[06:28] <gordonjcp> rapstudio: fix the cooling fan?
[06:28] <kunji> Have you cleaned out all the dust?  If you've owned it a while, then you might also want to check that the thermal paste is still paste and hasn't all dried up and cracked.
[06:28] <Geoffrey2> what is the recommended number of partitions for Ubuntu?
[06:28] <wilee-nilee> anternat2, I think you might make a thread on the ubuntu forums, it look pretty broken from here.
[06:28] <m3pow> also make sure it's fanned propertly
[06:29] <kunji> But doing that requires lifting up the processor, so I would try everything else first
[06:29] <kunji> Including updating to the latest drivers
[06:29] <gordonjcp> Geoffrey2: depends what you're trying to do
[06:29] <m3pow> kunji you have a laptop ?
[06:29] <gordonjcp> Geoffrey2: I tend to go with four, for boot, swap, root and home
[06:29] <rapstudio> i just bought it 4 months ago..do i have to check then kunji
[06:29] <fishcooker> how to build robust ubuntu server?
[06:29] <kunji> m3pow: I have several, as well as a desktop.
[06:29] <Fahad_> Hi all. I have a problem. After upgrade form ubuntu 11.10 to 12.04, the mouse is behaving strangely. Double click doesn't work. any help?
[06:30] <m3pow> rapstudio 4 month old laptop ?
[06:30] <kunji> Probably not rapstudio, try pretty much everything else first.
[06:30] <rapstudio> yes
[06:30] <kunji> Also you don't want to void any warranty you may have
[06:30] <wilee-nilee> Geoffrey2,  1 for the OS 1 for swap, you can seperate home if needed to upgrade or change the OS.
[06:30] <tasslehoff> Ubuntu 12.04 offers me no restricted drivers for my T530, but I suspect I need an NVIDIA one to make my minidisplayport work.
[06:31] <rapstudio> i haven't updated the graphic drivers.... kunji
[06:31] <kunji> fishcooker: It's basically robust out of the box.
[06:31] <kunji> rapstudio: Well, give that a try ^_^
[06:31] <anternat2> wilee-nilee:  thank you for your suggestion
[06:31] <Geoffrey2> ok, I'm dual booting with Windows 7, which is already installed, and I have a good 120+ gigs free for Ubuntu....
[06:31] <gordonjcp> fishcooker: robust?  Buy a good-quality case, possibly a ruggedised rackmount case
[06:32] <rapstudio> okk
[06:32] <gordonjcp> fishcooker: mount your mechanical drives on rubber shockmounts, or stick to SSD if you can live with the limited space
[06:32] <rapstudio> by the way....is there any reason behind the heatup of my laptop
[06:32] <rapstudio> i mean idon't run too many processes
[06:32] <Geoffrey2> ok, so the /, /home, and swap still pretty much covers it....
[06:32] <gordonjcp> fishcooker: What exactly are you trying to do?
[06:33] <gordonjcp> Geoffrey2: and /boot
[06:33] <kunji> Maybe, check if you have any processes that have run wild and are running up 100% cpu.  You can see what is using the most by using the top command in the terminal.
[06:33] <wilee-nilee> Geoffrey2, You want to be aware of the limit of the number of primary partitions on a HD, and installing ubuntu in a logical in a extended partition with the swap most likely.
[06:33] <gordonjcp> Geoffrey2: that only needs to be quite small - 256MB is overkill - but it needs to be ext2 ideally
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, boot partitions are not hardly needed.
[06:34] <wilee-nilee> but to each their own.
[06:34] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: yeah, but they make your life a lot easier
[06:34] <gordonjcp> there's no reason *not* to have one
[06:35] <kunji> Why would he have one?
[06:35] <Geoffrey2> all of ubuntu is going in the extended partition...
[06:35] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, maybe your life as that is what you use, but not really grub can be purged and installed in the OS and the mbr.
[06:35] <gordonjcp> Geoffrey2: yeah, that's fine
[06:35] <ahmad> helloow
[06:36] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: great, if grub supports ext4
[06:36] <wilee-nilee> gordonjcp, What?
[06:36] <kunji> It does gordonjcp
[06:36] <ahmad> what dp you talking about??
[06:36] <pndemc_> noob here, trying to duplicate a directory over ssh, can someone tell me the command? I've tried looking it up with no success oddly enough
[06:36] <kunji> Grub2 that is, if you were making the distinction
[06:36] <ahmad> I have a trouble
[06:36] <gordonjcp> pndemc_: What exactly are you trying to do?
[06:36] <gordonjcp> !ask | ahmad
[06:37] <hateball> pndemc_: You're looking to just copy a directory from one host to another, over SSH (SCP) ?
[06:37] <fishcooker> gordonjcp: ubuntu server with secured wireless connection, apache, mysql, php, JRE, tomcat +perl
[06:37] <pndemc_> gordonjcp, managing a server, and I need to duplicate a gameserver directory
[06:37] <pndemc_> for setting up another server of the same game
[06:37] <kunji> pndemc_: you can just use get and put (maybe need a -r to make them recursive), unless it's an old version of ssh you're dealing with
[06:37] <ahmad> okay
[06:37] <gordonjcp> pndemc_: right, but what are you actually trying to do with this directory?  Copy it from one machine to another?
[06:38] <pndemc_> nopf, just another folder in the same /home/ direcotry
[06:38] <gordonjcp> pndemc_: scp -r <source> <dest> ought to work, or maybe rsync -ave ssh --recursive <source> <dest>
[06:38] <gordonjcp> pndemc_: oh, then just ssh in and cp -r
[06:39] <pndemc_> what
[06:39] <pndemc_> what's the cp -r for?
[06:39] <gordonjcp> pndemc_: you want to copy a directory, right?
[06:39] <gordonjcp> cp --recursive source dest
[06:39] <pndemc_> yes
[06:39] <kunji> fishcooker: You can secure it various ways, including iptables or ufw, snort, etc... security is a large topic, you can install the LAMP stack with one command, it's something like sudo apt-get install lamp-server^
[06:40] <kunji> And the ^ is not a typo
[06:40] <hateball> I would use rsync, especially if it's something of size
[06:40] <gordonjcp> pndemc_: -r for "recursive" means "this, and everything below"
[06:41] <kunji> So that leaves what, JRE, tomcat+perl?  Which should all install easily through Synaptic, unless you want the Oracle version for your JRE, in which case Oracle has direction on their site.
[06:42] <nguyentrihai> hey guy!
[06:44] <fishcooker> thanks kunji thats quite comprehensive
[06:45] <wxl> please tell me there's someone here that can save me. i'm running lubuntu on a netbook with a trackpad. everything was peachy keen and now all of a sudden if i try to move the cursor it scrolls. i do have 2-finger xy scrolling setup on autostart with synclient, so this behavior is not abnormal, but it is when i don't have two fingers on the track pad :) so my question: do you know of any way i can restart the trackpad driver???
[06:46] <gordonjcp> wxl: if you reboot then anything you did with synclient on the command-line will be forgotten
[06:46] <Geoffrey2> thanks...can the updated ext for windows handle ext4 partitions, or should i stick with ext3?
[06:47] <wxl> gordonjcp: i'm trying to avoid rebooting but i did nothing with synclient between it working and it not working.
[06:47] <gordonjcp> wxl: weird
[06:47] <gordonjcp> wxl: synaptics is pretty weird and buggy
[06:47] <wxl> gordonjcp: i use it on a number of machines with no problems. just this one.
[06:48] <wxl> modprobe pulls up a variety of mouse drivers
[06:48] <gordonjcp> wxl: on my macbook I only ever use an external mouse, because the touchpad is so damn weird
[06:48] <wxl> one of which is synaptics
[06:48] <fishcooker> kunji: which version of your ubuntu server
[06:48] <ph1rmw4r3> ubuntu is pretty weird and buggy
[06:48] <gordonjcp> wxl: on mac osx it just does crazy stuff, on Ubuntu it mostly works but you need to press really hard
[06:48] <wxl> staging/ste_rmi4 (what's that?)
[06:48] <fishcooker> i've heard about lucid server robustness here
[06:48]  * wxl doesn't have a mac
[06:48] <gordonjcp> ph1rmw4r3: all OSes are
[06:48] <gordonjcp> ph1rmw4r3: Linux is the best of a bad bunch
[06:49] <wxl> so maybe i can restart modules
[06:49] <arpwatch> hi all
[06:49] <wxl> it's just a matter of figuring out which ones
[06:49] <gordonjcp> fishcooker: if you're installing a server, use an LTS
[06:49] <arpwatch> is there any way to have arpwatch start automatically when interfaces go up ?? look to do it but didn't succeed
[06:50] <gordonjcp> fishcooker: is the wireless connection the main connection for the server?  Because that's a really bad idea
[06:51] <fishcooker> i have to
[06:51] <fishcooker> for pragmatic matter
[06:51] <kunji> fishcooker: I'm running the latest12.04 (as it is an LTS release), though I don't actually run the server version (the difference is more or less just having the GUI by default).  My computer isn't primarily a server though, I just use it as one for my personal convenience.
[06:52] <gordonjcp> fishcooker: okay, well as long as you're not expecting more than a couple of simultaneous connections, it might work
[06:53] <kunji> gordonjcp: Like my case, where I only expect connections from me :P
[06:54] <gordonjcp> kunji: yeah, and if you're only connecting to one server at a time it should be fine
[06:54] <gordonjcp> kunji: if you want to do something like ssh in *and* use web *and* use mail, it'll just die
[06:55] <ph1rmw4r3> cough bsd
[06:55] <Marzata> mosh or ssh?
[06:55] <ph1rmw4r3> ssh
[06:55] <kunji> gordonjcp: Hmm, I actually haven't had any trouble doing that much.
[06:56] <Marzata> hmm, mosh seems to be better
[06:56] <fishcooker> hmmm gordonjcp actually what happen to ubuntu wireless card support?
[06:56] <kunji> gordonjcp: well, more or less, at the point where I'm putting through 720p video the buffering is too slow, but 480 works fine
[06:57] <Peddy> I'm getting strange messages in dmesg, 'UDP: short packet: From 74.165.56.154:36598 25649/109 to 192.168.1.69:49485'. The first address is from the US, I live in New Zealand. Am I being attacked?
[06:57] <fishcooker> my server have to work with wireless card
[06:57] <kunji> fishcooker: I think he's referring more to the practical limits of wireless connection speeds.
[06:57] <ph1rmw4r3> !info ssh-server
[06:57] <m3pow> i need some help on installing utorrent on Ubuntu and can't get the hang of it
[06:57] <ph1rmw4r3> !info openssh-client
[06:58] <ph1rmw4r3> !info openssh-server
[06:58] <fishcooker> i think i need the generic for wireless card on 2.4 GHz.. that will work well with ubuntu\
[06:58] <Marzata> !info mosh
[06:58] <kunji> m3pow: What's wrong with transmission, or azureus?  To each his own though I guess.
[06:59] <fishcooker> kunji: gordonjcp is there any brand that will fit best with ubuntu server
[07:00] <m3pow> i will use transmission
[07:00] <m3pow> thx Kunji
[07:00] <kunji> fishcooker: Hmm, that's not really something I've looked into ever, but I know that there are hardware compatibility lists that you could check.
[07:00] <kunji> m3pow: np
[07:03] <Marzata> we got new Lenovo L530 with Xubuntu 12.04 (32 bit) but freezes. Installed (64 bit) but freezes too. Any idea what to do?
[07:04] <BlueWolf> Hi there will ubuntu 10.04 support an Epsom LX300 printer? Or is it too old?
[07:04] <m3pow> try to install a propper video driver Marzata
[07:06] <Marzata> m3pow: how to? It comes with Intel HD Graphics 4000.
[07:06] <kunji> BlueWolf: I really have no idea, but on the other hand I haven't actually ran into a printer that ubuntu doesn't work with.  But then again, I wouldn't take my anecdotal case to heart.
[07:06] <m3pow> ohh
[07:06] <m3pow> and ubuntu didn't find you a recommended driver to download ?
[07:06] <zelluz> Hello guys, have you seen anything like this before in Ubuntu 12.04 with nvidia graphic card? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/544003/Pb%20Linux%20desktop.png
[07:07] <kunji> fishcooker: this might help: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[07:07] <BlueWolf> kunji: Well I am thinking of getting another printer, but it will just be for office use and well the Epson is just sting in a dusty corner
[07:07] <kunji> fishcooker: I also know what Hak5 has recommended some good ones in their episodes, but I certainly can't remember them off hand.
[07:07] <Marzata> m3pow: no extra drives
[07:08] <kunji> BlueWol: Oh, well just try it out then ^_^
[07:08] <kunji> *Bluewolf
[07:09] <m3pow> here it says it might be a bug
[07:09] <m3pow> sudo apt-get install mesa-utils
[07:12] <nmosiscstrjaho> What are the biggest changes from 10.04 lts to 12 lts?
[07:13] <BlueWolf> kunji: Will do, thank you :D
[07:23] <vantage|work> morning everyone
[07:23] <vantage|work> I just bumped into an error with the mysql startup script
[07:23] <vantage|work> start: Rejected send message, 1 matched rules; type="method_call", sender=":1.15" (uid=1000 pid=13478 comm="start mysql ") .....
[07:23] <nmosiscstrjaho> Who me?
[07:23] <vantage|work> anyone knows this error
[07:23] <vantage|work> ?
[07:23] <m3pow> Marzata, did you fix the problem ?
[07:24] <BlueWolf> kunji: Do you know if this printer will work well on linux? http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Home/Product_Finder/Multifunctionals/Inkjet/PIXMA_MG2140/
[07:24] <myrmidette> when searching with the find command, how can I exclude a certain subdirectory from my search?
[07:24] <vantage|work> stupid me, forgot to sudo
[07:24] <vantage|work> xD
[07:24] <mevvis> ryc
[07:25] <Marzata> m3pow: no
[07:25] <m3pow> ok moment
[07:25] <Marzata> m3pow: how to?
[07:26] <m3pow> have you tried to update the kernel ?
[07:29] <BlueWolf> Does anyone know if this printer will work well on linux? http://www.canon-europe.com/For_Home/Product_Finder/Multifunctionals/Inkjet/PIXMA_MG2140/
[07:37] <Dalek_> Help! Need to reinstall Nvidia drivers from console... When I go to run it tells me an X session is still running. Usually I can stop lightdm service and all is well, but this time lightdm service is not running so I cannot run the nvidia installer... what do I need to do?
[07:39] <Dalek_> it says "you appear to be running an X server"... how do I work out what is running and kill it, so I can install the Nvidia driver?
[07:40] <Dalek_> how do I see a list of services currently running in terminal?
[07:40] <MACscr> anyone using sshfs? if so, are symlinks working for you?
[07:41] <nmosiscstrjaho> I need help with ddc
[07:41] <Sajan> Dalek_, service --status-all should do it I believe.
[07:43] <Dalek_> Sajan: what does the ?, + or - next to each service represent?
[07:45] <Dalek_> it says "you appear to be running an X server"... how do I work out what is running and kill it, so I can install the Nvidia driver?
[07:46] <fidel> Dalek_: a first step might be stopping your login-manager (i..e lightdm, kgm, gdm)
[07:46] <fidel> *kdm*
[07:47] <||arifaX> somone knows details about ap_scan parameter in wpa_supplicant.conf manpage only says: Access point scanning and selection control; one of 0, 1 (default), or 2.
[07:47] <dj_ryan> you know, its really hard to edit /etc/network/interfaces with sed. anyone else with me?
[07:48] <Dalek_> fidel: lightdm is not running.. there is a window on Ctrl+Alt+F8 stating "system is running in low graphics mode". But I don't know how to kill it.
[07:48] <Sajan> Dalek_, using the top command might be more suitable.
[07:49] <Dalek_> Sajan: Top command???
[07:49] <Sajan> Dalek_, yep.  Just run 'top'
[07:49] <Sajan> Dalek_, it'll give you a list of running processes.
[07:50] <Sajan> Dalek_, sounds more like what you're looking for rather than services.
[07:50] <dj_ryan> anyone know how to get triple monitors out of this baby: http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/motherboards/desktop-motherboards/desktop-board-dq77mk.html
[07:52] <Dalek_> Sajan: ok... I have no idea what service or process I am looking for, but it surely has to be whichever one puts up the "system is running in low graphics mode" window when there is no video driver available... any clues?
[07:54] <ydbondt> Hey guys, I'm running ubuntu on btrfs and suffering from slow boot times :/ I've read somewhere that it should be faster when btrfs is loaded in the kernel. Any ideas or links on how to do this ?
[07:55] <ikonia> ydbondt: it won't make a difference
[07:56] <ikonia> the time taken to load the module is milliseconds
[07:56] <Prolac> hi all, am I allowed to kill this proccess on ubuntu server: "usr/sbin/named -u bind"? Its got something to do with DNS but I haven't touched that..
[07:56] <ikonia> Prolac: you are running a dns server
[07:58] <Prolac> ikonia: so If I kill that proccess I won't be able to access my server anymore?
[07:59] <fidel> Prolac: if you kill your local dns serv er - your local dns service will not run anymore ;)
[07:59] <Dalek_> I need to know how to stop all X servers so I can fix my nvidia driver
[07:59] <ikonia> Prolac: you won't be able to access any dns that the named process on your machine is serving
[07:59] <fidel> we cant tell you if you ask that service or not
[07:59] <Dalek_> I don't know the name of the running xserver.. how do I find it?
[08:01] <ydbondt> Well, it takes about 115s to mount all partitions :/
[08:02] <Dalek_> I don't know the name of the running xserver.. how do I find it?
[08:04] <Dalek_> "The system is running in low-graphics mode" - how do I stop this xserver which is displaying this message?
[08:04] <Prolac> ikonia: but if I access my server through IP only, it shouldn't matter, right?
[08:05] <ikonia> it may not matter at all if you are not using that to server the dns name of your server
[08:05] <Dalek_> ok.. new question... what key do I press during boot-up to stop ALL xservers trying load? I want to get to a terminal with NO xservers running... what do I press?
[08:06] <ikonia> Dalek_: use the recovery mode grub option
[08:06] <Dalek_> ikonia I can't remember the key to get a grub menu. Been a long time.
[08:06] <ikonia> Dalek_: shift isn't it ?
[08:07] <Dalek_> ikonia: I will give shift a try
[08:07] <Prolac> ikonia: thanks for help
[08:07] <Cybwoti> H
[08:13] <cell1> how do i mount a windows fileshare in ubuntu?
[08:15] <ActionParsnip> cell1: nautilus can do that
[08:15] <cell1> to a specified folder on my filesystem?
[08:18] <ActionParsnip> cell1: nautilus can mount the share and you can then access a subfolder and add it as a bookmark for later use
[08:25] <dalek_> HOw do I find a process name from its process ID? I want to know which process is 1574
[08:26] <gordonjcp> dalek_: ps ax | grep 1574 ?
[08:28] <ActionParsnip> minus the '?' ;)
[08:29] <AdvoWork> if ive got a folder, full of symlinks, can i somehow copy that to another location, and restore it back without messing any of them up?
[08:31] <asd> hello
[08:31] <sasd> i need some help
[08:31] <sasd> anyone has been working with cardman omnikey 4040 and ubuntu 12.04?
[08:32] <Stanley00> !ask | sasd
[08:34] <dalek_> AAAAARRRGGHH!!! I am getting nowhere! I have a window "system is running in low-graphics mode.. blah blah blah" I CAN't work out how to get rid of it!! help the window just locks up. I NEED desperately to KILL it so that I can install my nvidia driver... please help.
[08:35] <dalek_> Does ANYONE know how to kill ALL running Xservers?
[08:36] <dalek_> How do I kill ALL running xservers?
[08:36] <LorSamPau_w> try ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:37] <LorSamPau_w> mb ctrl+alt+f2
[08:38] <[twisti]> hello, ever since upgrading from lts 10 to lts 12, at 6:25 in the morning, 00logwatch runs and practically kills the server at 500% cpu load for like 10 minutes
[08:38] <[twisti]> does anyone know what that thing does, and why it needs to much cpu time ?
[08:38] <dalek_> I am already at tty terminals... I need to know how to kill this stupid xserver session in ctrl+alt+F8 which has a locked up/frozen window.
[08:39] <dalek_> I CANNOT run nvidia driver installer unless I can get rid of this retarded window on F8...
[08:39] <LorSamPau_w> (Right alt) + (Print Screen) + K
[08:40] <gordonjcp> dalek_: kill ?
[08:40] <gordonjcp> dalek_: maybe "sudo pkill X"?
[08:44] <Guest25830> hi all, how do i get the system tray to switch to avant? Compz fussion disapears once i type compiz --replace.
[08:46] <melvincv> Please... show me a way to get rid of the new scrollbar in Ubuntu Unity 12.04
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: the drivers are available in packages, you don't need the file from nvidia.com
[08:46] <tiger___> how to show the non-printable characters in emacs, like command ':set list' in vim ?
[08:46] <dalek_> Help! I need to kill the xfailsafe mode thing... I need to quit all running xservers.. HOW do I do this? I tried Alt+PrntScrn+K and the whole computer frozse dead
[08:46] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: which nvidia GPU are you using?
[08:47] <Guest25830> melvincv, do you use compiz?
[08:47] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: I do need to use the nvidia driver because it is the ONLY one which works for my old card
[08:47] <farzad> can anyone suggest me a digital clock widget for ubuntu desktop?
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-96
[08:47] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: the 96 driver works with old nvidia chips
[08:47] <farzad> can anyone suggest me a digital clock widget for ubuntu desktop?
[08:47] <max3> is it possibl to recover (not reset) the password for a winxp installation from a ubuntu live cd ?
[08:48] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: if you REALLY want the driver, run the file in root recovery mode
[08:48] <Guest25830> for all Ubuntu users, have you considered Pinguy OS? its also a version of ubuntu without the tool bar.
[08:48] <sasd> !info pcsc-omnikey
[08:49] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: I need to use nvidia's 173 driver. I tried to run form root recovery mode, but I couldn't make it work. I don't know why.
[08:49] <tiger___> anyone help me ?
[08:49] <Guest25830> tiger, what was your question?
[08:49] <max3> is it possibl to recover (not reset) the password for a winxp installation from a ubuntu live cd ?
[08:49] <tiger___> how to show the non-printable characters in emacs, like command ':set list' in vim ?
[08:50] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: if I could just work out how to quit this idiot xfailsafe frozen window, it would let me run the nvidia installer from the tty terminal
[08:50] <Eagleman> Is python auto installed on ubuntu?
[08:50] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: it should give a message to run a command and get a slightly different environment, it should then run
[08:50] <Eagleman> And how do i found it if it is installed?
[08:50] <Guest25830> oh lord, i'm sorry but i would have to research the web to help you.
[08:51] <Guest25830> what is emacs?
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> Guest25830: a text editor
[08:51] <LorSamPau_w> !emacs
[08:51] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: press CTRL+ALT+F1 and run:  killall -u $USER
[08:52] <tiger___> Guest25830: emacs like vim, i think
[08:52] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: it gave no such message.. I think it complained about not being able to find or create some file and gave up. If you want me to find out what it said I will have to reboot again to get to recovery console.
[08:52] <max3> is it possibl to recover (not reset) the password for a winxp installation from a ubuntu live cd ?
[08:52] <Guest25830> ok,  text editors
[08:53] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: what does killall -u $USER do?
[08:53] <_Aviator_> melvincv : sudo apt-get remove scrollbar*
[08:53] <melvincv> yes, I suppose, compiz --replace refreshes my desktop
[08:54] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: all the processes your user has, will be ended
[08:54] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: ok, so that will also kill this irssi chat...
[08:55] <Guest25830> tiger, check this link and see if it helps you. https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups=#!topic/comp.emacs/CIniluIG5oY
[08:56] <T-Co> Hi. In 12.04 what is the correct way to prefer ppa package over repo? Is pinning the way to go? (server install)
[08:56] <Noriandir> hi. I followed this tutorial (http://www.nabisoft.com/tutorials/glassfish/installing-glassfish-311-on-ubuntu) to install glassfish on ubuntu 10.04 LTS, but I cant access to the glassfish folder without being root =/
[08:57] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: sure but you will go back to the login page with a responsive desktop
[08:57] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: that did not work.. killed everything EXCEPT the xfailsafe windows
[08:57] <Guest25830> does anyone know how to move the system tray from the tool bar to the avant window navigator?
[08:57] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: it must be running under different user
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: then check using:  top
[08:58] <Eagleman> Is python auto installed on ubuntu?
[08:58] <Eagleman> And how do i found it if it is installed?
[08:58] <Eagleman> find*
[08:58] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: i tried looking at top, but i can make no sense of it
[08:58] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: python -version
[08:59] <tiger___> Eagleman: try python in terminal
[08:59] <melvincv> So I remove scrollbar* ?
[08:59] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: I have top running now... I don't know what I am looking for?
[08:59] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: dalek_ or use:  ps | less
[08:59] <Guest25830> good luck everyone, have a great night/ day.
[09:00] <Eagleman> usage: python [option] ... [-c cmd | -m mod | file | -] [arg] ...
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: a lot of ubuntu uses python, it is very powerful
[09:00] <Noriandir> ActionParsnip, its python --version btw (you missed a -)
[09:00] <IdleOne> ActionParsnip: Eagleman python --version
[09:00] <Eagleman> Python 2.7.3 (default, Aug  1 2012, 05:14:39)
[09:00] <Eagleman> python worked
[09:00] <Eagleman> but is it auto installed with ubuntu?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: the man page would have told you how to see the version...
[09:00] <Eagleman> or did i install it my self?
[09:00] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: its a default app
[09:00] <melvincv> The scrollbar comes in the way of programs and their buttons at the very right or bottom...
[09:00] <Eagleman> okgood
[09:00] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: that listed 3 processes and it says (END) at the bottom.
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: most of what you use is python based
[09:01] <sasd> !info linux-headers-3.2.0-25-generic
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: ok, try:  ps -ef | less
[09:01] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: press Q to exit the pager currently running
[09:02] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: what is this doing? it lists thousands of things....
[09:03] <Eagleman> And what about python setuptools python-numpy python-imaging libvirt python bindings?
[09:03] <gordonjcp> Eagleman: try it and see
[09:03] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: now what?
[09:04] <Eagleman> none of the commands are working
[09:04] <Eagleman> but otherwise my Archipel agent would not be working so i am not sure
[09:04] <dalek_> I still have a window on ctrl+alt+F8 which refuses to go away
[09:05] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: look for the process you want to kiill. The 2nd colomn is the PID
[09:05] <dalek_> surely someone must know how to kill the x failsafe windows??
[09:06] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: not obvious what was going on here?
[09:06] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, the command is "xkill" =)
[09:06] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: If I knew the process I would.
[09:06] <dalek_> what does xkill do?
[09:07] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: lets you click on a window and kill it...man pages and the web would have told you that..
[09:07] <LorSamPau_w> It kills a client by its X resource and not by process ID
[09:07] <[twisti]> i have problems with getting "DegradedArray event on /dev/md0" for all my drives. what can i do ? they are single drives, not arrays
[09:08] <Eagleman> how do i know if these addons are installed? python setuptools python-numpy python-imaging libvirt python bindings?
[09:08] <fidel> Eagleman: dpkg -l | grep SEARCHSTRING
[09:09] <msmith0957> ello.. need help getting an old laptop's drives to be recognized by ubuntu installer. parted magik sees them ok, i tried disabling acpi, but no go. can i mount them manually and give it a go ?
[09:09] <[twisti]> they all seem to think they should have another drive, but they dont, its one of the many bugs that showed up when i unfortunately upgraded from LTS 10 to LTS 12
[09:09] <fidel> as dpkg -l lists all installed packages -> the rest filters it
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: dpkg -l | egrep 'python|setuptools|python-numpy|python-imaging|libvirt|bindings'
[09:09] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: may want to remove the first python in the quotes, and the pipe character
[09:10] <layke> If I have some old files that I have on another drive mounted at /media/<deviceuuid>/var/www how would I just copy them over to /var/www
[09:10] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: dpkg -l | egrep 'setuptools|python-numpy|python-imaging|libvirt|bindings'
[09:10] <layke> I get cp omitting directory when trying to copy
[09:10] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: xkill doesn't appear to be what I want.. It seems to be for closing windows but not stopping an xserver completely.
[09:10] <Eagleman> Thanks mate
[09:11] <msmith0957> layke: cp -R ?
[09:11] <layke> Ah thanks. :)
[09:11] <dalek_> xserver failsafe crap still persists....
[09:12] <LorSamPau_w> sudo service lightdm stop
[09:12] <tiger___> dalek_: killalll X
[09:12] <dalek_> tiger___: no such process exists
[09:13] <dalek_> LorSamPau_w: ligthdm is NOT running.. xserver is STILL running.. God!!! help!! AAAARGGRHHH!!
[09:13] <msmith0957> I'm staring at the installation screen that lets you select which device/partition to install ubuntu on. but its blank. machine has a raid card but i dont believe thats the issue bc its currently in ata mode and a live cd saw the drives just fine.
[09:14] <tiger___> dalek_: Can you find the process by command 'ps -ef |grep X' ?
[09:14] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: thought about rebooting?
[09:15] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: rebooting? lol.. done that countless times already. I am always stuck with the xfailsafe low-graphics mode window lock-up freeze.
[09:15] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: did you get the nvidia driver installed?
[09:16] <dalek_> dalek_: I have NOT been able to run it and NEVER will be able until I can KILL this xserver failsafe thing
[09:16] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: I have NOT been able to run it and NEVER will be able until I can KILL this xserver failsafe thing
[09:16] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, have you tried nomodeset?
[09:17] <LorSamPau_w> or recovery mode
[09:17] <Eagleman> ii  python-setuptools                    0.6.24-1ubuntu1                     Pyt                                                                                                                                                             hon Distutils Enhancements (setuptools compatibility)
[09:17] <Eagleman> ii  python-libvirt                       0.9.8-2ubuntu17.3                   lib                                                                                                                                                             virt Python bindings
[09:17] <Eagleman> I am missing the rest
[09:17] <dalek_> LorSamPau_w: no... but I HAVE tried recovery mode, and.. I don't know why,  but the nvidia installer won't run from the recovery console...
[09:18] <Eagleman> What in need is:  https://github.com/ArchipelProject/Archipel/wiki/Installation%3A-Agent
[09:18] <fidel> dalek_: how about trying to get rid of that special mode as a first step?
[09:18] <dalek_> fidel: sorry... what?
[09:18] <Eagleman> But i have to be sure if it will be auto installed during the instalation or if i did install it somehow
[09:18] <fidel> as in using the default drivers provided - then do a normal boot - kill lightdm & x and run the NVIDIA sh thing
[09:19] <d1rkp1tt> Sep 10 14:53:30 ubuntu sshd[4057]: error: connect_to 192.168.2.114 port 5901: failed.
[09:19] <fidel> if recovery-mode blocks you - get rid of the recovery mode (if possible)
[09:19] <fidel> never had that issue while installing nvidia-drivers - but i never started from recovdery-mode either dalek_
[09:19] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, ubuntu have problems with some video cards, nomodeset helped me other time
[09:19] <d1rkp1tt> Anyone able to help me with a VNC issue.. I can connect locally but not through my ssh tunnel .... its reaching the server.. hence log
[09:19] <d1rkp1tt> Sep 10 14:53:30 ubuntu sshd[4057]: error: connect_to 192.168.212.104 port 5901: failed.
[09:20] <dalek_> LorSamPau_w: is nomodeset something I need to install? it doesn't appear to be present on my system.
[09:20] <d1rkp1tt> So it seems its not forwarding from ssh to vncserver
[09:20] <d1rkp1tt> I have tried settings like X11forwarding
[09:20] <d1rkp1tt> etc
[09:20] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, nope, you can set it in the grub, before loading the os
[09:21] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/3509/dgfdgrunningoraclevmvir.png
[09:21] <dalek_> LorSamPau_w: any URLs are wasted on me.. I have no way to access the internet. I can only get onto IRC using irssi console client.
[09:22] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: have you tried the boot option:  nouveau.blacklist=1
[09:23] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, when you are selecting the os before loading it - press F6(Other options) - there will be nomodeset option
[09:23] <ombletukelis> hey
[09:23] <ombletukelis> :D
[09:23] <ombletukelis> whats up
[09:23] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: sounds complicated... I am soooo tired. I am going to try and find this nomodeset this then I may have to quit for the night
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: not at all
[09:24] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: its very simple
[09:24] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, if it isn't there - you can manualy edit the os line by pressing "e" - and add nomodeset
[09:25] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: hold shift at boot, delete the words (using keyboard):  quiet splash    and add the word: nouveau.blacklist=1     press ENTER to continue the boot, how is taht in any way hard. Its basically typing..?
[09:25] <LorSamPau_w> and to edit the line you must press "e"
[09:26] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: I am going to have to write this down since I won't be able to see this when I reboot.
[09:27] <LorSamPau_w> 1) During the restart, when you see the “Grub Loading” message, immediately press “ESC”  or holde "SHIFT" while booting to get to the grub menu. 2) Highlight the first entry and press “e” to edit the entry. 3) Scroll down to the line that starts with “linux…” and move the cursor to the end. Enter “nomodeset” or "nouveau.blacklist=1" 4) Press Ctrl + X to continue the booting process.
[09:28] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: so am I deleting "quiet splash" and replacing it with "nouveau.blacklist=1" ???
[09:28] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: yes, simple isn't it
[09:29] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: maybe... I will have to try and see ;) brb... maybe
[09:29] <jalexandru> hi, silly question I guess but I need to know... is there a way ubuntu 64bit can run in a 32bit computer?
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: you will force the OS to use failsafe vga and you will get a desktop
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> jalexandru: not possible
[09:29] <jalexandru> ActionParsnip: thanks
[09:29] <ActionParsnip> jalexandru: the install media will also refuse to install
[09:30] <melvincv> Is there a way to get a clean GNOME 3  install on Ubuntu without breaking anything? installing gnome-panel caused stability issues...
[09:31] <jalexandru> ActionParsnip: I've installed ubuntu 64bit on an old computer are there any reasons to install 32bit? or they'll work the same?
[09:32] <msmith0957> So, I've determined that fdisk -l shows my disk, but the ubuntu installer does not populate my disk/partition details, any ideas ?
[09:33] <compdoc> msmith0957, youre trying to install ubuntu, and its not working?
[09:33] <LorSamPau_w> msmith0957, raid controller?
[09:33] <msmith0957> compdoc: yes sir
[09:33] <msmith0957> LorSamPau_w: yes, but its in ata mode currently
[09:33] <Noriandir> jalexandru, depends on how old is the pc. if it is older than a Core 2 Duo probably it wont suport 64bits
[09:34] <msmith0957> LorSamPau_w: a live cd (parted magic) allowed me to access the drive with no issues
[09:34] <compdoc> msmith0957, how many drives are installed?
[09:34] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: that did nothing.. after I made the edit, the retarded "system running in low-graphics mode blah blah blah" window popped back up instantly. Back to square 1. AAARRGHHH!!!
[09:34] <msmith0957> compdoc: single, in ata mode
[09:34] <compdoc> do you have teh choice of ahci?
[09:34] <compdoc> the
[09:34] <msmith0957> no ahci options in bios :/
[09:34] <msmith0957> just raid/ata
[09:34] <compdoc> no worries
[09:35] <compdoc> its an ide drive?
[09:35] <LorSamPau_w> msmith0957, well then i guess that ubuntu just don't have the driver... parted magic is better in this way
[09:35] <msmith0957> yerp
[09:35] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: Do you think it is worth trying LorSamPau_w 's nomodeset thingy?
[09:35] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: worth a shot
[09:35] <compdoc> msmith0957, are you trying to dual boot? is some other OS on there as well?
[09:35] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: rebooting again :( .....
[09:36] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, it helped me with geforce 550 ti
[09:36] <msmith0957> compdoc: currently runs xp, but trying to get rid of it to throw ubuntu on here
[09:36] <compdoc> msmith0957, ubuntu 12.04?
[09:36] <msmith0957> LorSamPau_w: would i require a driver for the drive to show up via fdisk -l
[09:36] <AdvoWork> if ive got a folder, full of symlinks, can i somehow copy that to another location, and restore it back without messing any of them up?
[09:36] <Fawaz> A warm greet for a warm brother.
[09:36] <msmith0957> compdoc: yes
[09:36] <Fawaz> Anyone seek a refidge? Or Asbestos
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[09:37] <Fawaz> Has what needs you!
[09:37] <compdoc> msmith0957, what brand of system is it?
[09:37] <Fawaz> Fawaz al-Yakhchalieh wa al-Azbestieh.
[09:37] <msmith0957> compdoc: hah, if you must know, its an ancient alienware area 51 m7700
[09:38] <Fawaz> Buy here, you are a cool.™
[09:38] <fidel> Fawaz: stop the offtopic stuff please
[09:38] <Fawaz> (in)fidel: Ok dear.
[09:38] <msmith0957> compdoc: aka clevo d9t
[09:38] <compdoc> msmith0957, are you booted the live cd now?
[09:38] <msmith0957> compdoc: i'm in the ubuntu installer
[09:39] <msmith0957> currently on another machine talking to you
[09:39] <compdoc> msmith0957, where in the process?
[09:39] <Fawaz> (in)fidel: It is ontopic a bit, our store computere have the lininx Uperator!
[09:39] <compdoc> what do you see on the screen?
[09:39] <msmith0957> compdoc: http://leekaelin.co.uk/downloads/TechSpot/Linux_Guides/Responses_to_guides/Ubuntu11_10_post_5_2.JPG
[09:39] <Fawaz> That is why a visit to Fawaz al-Yakhchalieh wa al-Azbestieh is good.
[09:39] <msmith0957> compdoc: im there, but nothing is populated in that last
[09:39] <dalek_> LorSamPau_w: sorry.. I forgot how to get the boot options where I can select nomodeset
[09:40] <fidel> Fawaz: read the topic and stop the advertising
[09:40] <msmith0957> compdoc: currently staring at terminal tho, fdisk -l shows my disk at /dev/sda1 but the partition manager doesnt show my drive/part :/
[09:40] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, tap "e"
[09:40] <Fawaz> Ok, infidel. :)
[09:40] <Fawaz> Does it belong to the Ubuntu company?
[09:41] <dalek_> LorSamPau_w: oh ok... then do I type nomodeset somewhere in there?
[09:41] <compdoc> msmith0957, those are fat32 partitions, and a bunch of partitions that have no business being on a windows xp drive
[09:41] <msmith0957> compdoc: lol its just a screenshot i found on the web
[09:41] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, in the back of the line thet starts "linux..."
[09:41] <msmith0957> compdoc: im just saying, thats the section of the install im in
[09:41] <LorSamPau_w> *that
[09:41] <dalek_> ok thanks
[09:41] <msmith0957> compdoc: except on my screen, no devices/partitions are shown
[09:42] <trijntje_> I want to be able to ssh into another computer that has two installs of ubuntu on it. How can I ssh into both without getting certificate errors?
[09:42] <compdoc> msmith0957, reboot it and load the live cd to the desktop. Its the Try Ubuntu option
[09:43] <msmith0957> compdoc: ok, and then try the install option from there ?
[09:43] <compdoc> msmith0957, no, Ide like you to run the disk utility to check the health of the drive, and also gparted to look at the partition
[09:43] <compdoc> Id
[09:45] <msmith0957> compdoc: alright, i'll give it a try. i'l say o/ in a few minutes
[09:45] <compdoc> k
[09:45] <dalek_> LorSamPau_w: that failed to achieve anything too. It still throws me into the "system is running in low-graphics mode" window... :(
[09:46] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, then i don't know how to help =(
[09:48] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: the full message is "your screen, graphics card and input devices could not be detected correctly. you will need to configure these yourself".. I can press enter to "ok" the window, then it locks up and freezes.
[09:50] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: I am going to try running nvidia installer from recovery console again... I will make a note of the messages when it fails and re-type them in here....
[09:50] <msmith0957> compdoc: o/, so, disk util shows my disk, its single ntfs parition, and says its healthy. now what ?
[09:50] <compdoc> msmith0957, no bad sectors?
[09:51] <msmith0957> compdoc: bad sectors: none
[09:51] <krak> is possible to turn my x86 installation into amd64 without reinstalling Lubuntu?
[09:51] <compdoc> msmith0957, open gparted. does it see the drive?
[09:51] <compdoc> krak, I dont think so
[09:51] <msmith0957> yep, no problem
[09:52] <krak> compdoc: ok
[09:52] <compdoc> msmith0957, well, why not delete the partition there and then run the installer
[09:52] <jinu_> hi
[09:52] <compdoc> with gparted
[09:52] <msmith0957> compdoc: il try it
[09:52] <soee> hi, whta is te command to copy whole directory with subdirectories, files etc to new  directory?
[09:52] <jinu_> I am using ubuntu 11.10
[09:53] <jinu_> but hard disk failed
[09:53] <jinu_> when I am using  sudo gdisk -l  /dev/sdb
[09:53] <jack-xtr> pardon me, i have a question indirectly related to ubuntu. I'll wait my turn.
[09:53] <jinu_> it show GPT: damaged
[09:53] <jinu_> any solution?
[09:53] <compdoc> jack-xtr, you'll be waiting forever
[09:54] <dr_willis> ask away jack-xtr  and see who knows
[09:55] <msmith0957> compdoc: no go..
[09:55] <compdoc> msmith0957, whats happens?
[09:55] <compdoc> what
[09:55] <dr_willis> soee:  cp has a -r  for recursive option.
[09:55] <krak> by the way: I found bug discussion where they say as a workaround to remove ubiquity-slideshow becuase installer crashes. I found another solution simply upgrading ubiquity-slideshow: hope to help somebody
[09:55] <msmith0957> compdoc: same thing, just doesnt show any drives available to install to
[09:56] <krak> speaking about Lubuntu installer
[09:56] <soee> dr_willis, will this work for dot files also ?
[09:56] <compdoc> msmith0957, when you delete the partition in gparted, you have to click 'apply'
[09:56] <msmith0957> compdoc: yep, did that, verified in disk utils that it had changed
[09:57] <dr_willis> soee:  try it and see you may need to use -a or .* type wildcards.  may be worth the time to check a few bash tutorials for examples
[09:57] <soee> ok, thank you dr_willis
[09:57] <dr_willis> !bash
[09:58] <compdoc> msmith0957, well, it makes no sense. You might try the Alternative installer for Ubuntu, but that will mean downloading and burning another cd
[09:58] <msmith0957> compdoc: ohh shit i got it
[09:58] <msmith0957> compdoc: i think it had to do with the way the disk was originally partitioned
[09:58] <compdoc> cool
[09:59] <msmith0957> i deleted all volumes, reformatted with master boot record, added a new ext4 partiton, and then all of a sudden it picked up on it
[09:59] <compdoc> heh
[09:59] <msmith0957> i gues the key was the master boot record ?
[09:59] <compdoc> msmith0957, I bet it was the partition type
[09:59] <msmith0957> what does xp installer do ?
[10:00] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: attempting to run nvidia installer from a grub recovery console fails with "mkdir cannot create directory '/tmp/selfgz722' read-only file system. Unable to create target directory etc.... but I've had another idea....
[10:00] <ActionParsnip> dalek_: is the partition healthy?
[10:00] <msmith0957> compdoc: alright wel, whatever it was, thanks a lot for helping me along. much appreciated
[10:01] <compdoc> np
[10:01] <dalek_> ActionParsnip: If I can install the non-working default ubuntu nouveau drivers... I may AT LEAST be able to boot up THEN kill lightdm.. then I might be able to install the WORKING nvidia driver....
[10:01] <dr_willis> dalek_:   you may want to try the 'text' mode console. tye recovery mode has an option to remount / read/write i recall.
[10:01] <msmith0957> yaahooo ! (im off)
[10:01] <dr_willis> !text | dalek_
[10:02] <dr_willis> text mode does not start up lightdm
[10:02] <dr_willis> but everything else should be 'normal'
[10:02] <dalek_> dr_willis: that sounds like exactly what I need! Will that ALSO stop the xfailsafe window system from loading?
[10:02] <mystblade9> Is it safe to use the X Updates PPA? I need it because the propietary nVidia driver that is included with the current Ubuntu release causes system freezes.
[10:03] <dr_willis> no x at all.
[10:03] <unless> How do I check the available user groups of my machine?
[10:03] <unless> And how do I add a user to a group?
[10:03] <LorSamPau_w> dalek_, no windows at all )
[10:03] <dr_willis> mystblade9:  as safe as any other ppa.  ive not heard of any issues with it
[10:04] <dalek_> hooray! So I just type text at the end of the linux.... line? no need to delete anything else?
[10:04] <ssta> unless: "cat /etc/group" and "sudo adduser <username> <groupname>"
[10:04] <unless> ssta, thank you!
[10:04] <dr_willis> dalek_:  i tend to say change 'quiet splash' to 'noquiet nosplash text'
[10:04] <mystblade9> dr_willis: Good ^^. But how safe are PPA's in general? I'm quite new with them.
[10:04] <dr_willis> !ppa
[10:05] <christaras> Hi guys i am usin ubuntu 12.04 and i have NO sound (LIke i dont have with any other distros/versions) except if i reload alsa. I have googled it but with no succes MANY MANY MANY times. Can you suggest a fix?
[10:05] <dr_willis> christaras:  how are you reloading alsa?
[10:06] <christaras> sudo alsa force-reload
[10:06] <dr_willis> christaras:  put that command in /etc/rc.local   after a sleep 30  to let it wait a while.. perhaps
[10:06] <dr_willis> dirty work around..
[10:06] <Guest24217> hi, i created an user from terminal, but when i login with that user auto completes are not working. do i need a bashrc file to make it work?
[10:06] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: the sleep will make the boot hang for 30s too
[10:07] <dr_willis> Guest24217:  how did you make the user?
[10:07] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  lightdm wont wait..
[10:07] <Guest24217> adduser -m bla
[10:07] <christaras> wait what do you mean?  put that command in terminal  "/etc/rc.local   after a sleep 30"
[10:07] <dr_willis> Guest24217:  you can copy the default files from /etc/skel/
[10:08] <christaras> Hey about my problem just something i forgot sometimes the sound works perfectly when i boot without need to reload.
[10:08] <dr_willis> christaras:  add 2 lines to /etc/rc.local  befor the exit 0.....     sleep 30      then your command, no sudo needed
[10:08] <Guest24217> dr_willis, ah thank you
[10:08] <Guest24217> :
[10:08] <Guest24217> :)
[10:09] <dr_willis> christaras:  ive had some cards work IF i cold booted straight to linux, but not if i rebooted from windows into linux.
[10:10] <dalek_> dr_willis: that worked perfect! I can now finally run the Nvidia installer. *writes that down for next time a kernel update messes up my driver* thank you!
[10:10] <mystblade9> dr_willis: What happens if I upgrade my Ubuntu to 12.10, when it is released, while having my Xorg been upgraded through the PPA?
[10:10] <dr_willis> mystblade9:  upgrade tools normally disable all the ppa's
[10:10] <mystblade9> dr_willis: Good ^^
[10:10] <christaras> Thank you for your help i really apreciate it. SO this command is supposed to reload alsa on each boot after 30 sec system has loaded.
[10:11] <dr_willis> christaras:  you got it.
[10:11] <jinu_> GPT:damged
[10:11] <jinu_> any help
[10:11] <dr_willis> 30 sec is just a guess.. it may not be needed at all
[10:11] <compdoc> jinu_, is the disk healthy?
[10:11] <christaras> Well i will make it less to make sure it will work :). THANK YOU.
[10:11] <dr_willis> you could make rc.lolcal play a sound if you wanted.. ;)
[10:12] <erqwerr> Not for me Windows
[10:12] <jinu_> compdoc: ya
[10:12] <christaras> Nah...
[10:12] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: rc.local is processed before lightdm, if you put the command in a script and run the script backgrounded, it allows the boot to continue :)
[10:12] <compdoc> jinu_, Ive never seen a damaged partition on any type. What caused it?
[10:13] <jinu_> compdoc : it show all the partition
[10:13] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  from what ive seen rc.local gets ran along side lightdm,     sleep 30 &    wont wait.
[10:13] <jinu_> how to recover data from it?
[10:13] <compdoc> I dont know what that means
[10:14] <compdoc> oh, well just boot the live CD
[10:14] <dr_willis> oh in a script.. that would be a cleaner way
[10:14] <dr_willis> ;)
[10:14] <jinu_> compdoc: ok
[10:14] <jinu_> compdoc:then?
[10:14] <dr_willis> weird that it needs to get reloaded...
[10:15] <compdoc> then copy your files somewhere
[10:15] <BlackPanx> iostat -N should show device names, but it doesnt on one of my servers. do i need aditional package installed to make device-mapper show proper LV's of disk... ?
[10:15] <compdoc> jinu_, how large is the drive?
[10:16] <BlackPanx> maybe i need to mount another module
[10:16] <BlackPanx> into kernel
[10:16] <BlackPanx> ?
[10:16] <daemon> I want to tell a program to not use the conf.d config system and use a configuration file I specify manually
[10:16] <jinu_> compdoc: 1 TB
[10:16] <daemon> what script will I need to edit to achieve this behaviour
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: ahh, I've always made little scripts and added it that way, can help with stuff (especially startup stuf in X needing root access, bit hacky but t works)
[10:17] <jinu_> now i am connected with other working hard disk
[10:17] <jrib> daemon: what program?  What exactly do you want to accomplish?
[10:17] <jinu_> when I use live cd, it is unbale to mount the hard disk
[10:17] <compdoc> jinu_, ok, well, a 1TB doesnt need a gpt partition type, but its ok. I use gpt on a few large volumes in raids
[10:17] <Guest24217> dr_willis, i copied but, when i log in, bash does not work, when i give command bash it starts to working
[10:18] <daemon> jrib, exim4 I want it to use the default path the source version would normally use /etc/exim4.conf oir /usr/local/etc/exim4.conf
[10:18] <daemon> and not go through the conf.d/ dir at all
[10:18] <jinu_> compdoc: Actually it automatically came when I done complete hard disk installation using ubuntu
[10:19] <Guest24217> dr_willis, forget it i fixed thanks for your help :)
[10:21] <dr_willis> Guest24217:  your user isusing sh... not bash.. is this on a vpn?
[10:21] <jinu_> compdoc: is it possible to recover data from one partition?
[10:21] <Guest24217> dr_willis, i used chsh command to run bash instead of sh. its working fine now
[10:22] <dr_willis> vpns and other hosting sites often default to sh  not bash
[10:22] <dr_willis> or whatever you call those services..
[10:22] <compdoc> jinu_, its possible, buit you wont know until you try
[10:22] <compdoc> but
[10:23] <jinu_> compdoc: pls tell me the way
[10:23] <compdoc> boot the Live CD and look
[10:24] <dj007> hi everyone
[10:24] <dj007> can some one help me screen resolution............... ubuntu 12.04
[10:25] <dj007> i broke me screen of notebook and now i am using hp 20XLED
[10:26] <ActionParsnip> dj007: what make and model system? what video chip?
[10:26] <crizis> dj007, http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxHelpAsk.html
[10:30] <ActionParsnip> dj007: sudo lshw -C display    will tell you
[10:30] <dj007> totally newbie
[10:32] <jinu__> compdoc: using gdisk it is showing the partition but gpt is damaged..using live cd it says the disk is free
[10:32] <dj007> yes
[10:32] <dj007> got some info
[10:32] <dj007> VGA compatible controller
[10:32] <dj007>        product: Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
[10:32] <dj007>        vendor: Intel Corporation
[10:32] <dj007>        physical id: 2
[10:32] <dj007>        bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
[10:32] <FloodBot1> dj007: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:32] <dj007>        version: 07
[10:32] <compdoc> jinu__, i dont know how to fix that. Try asking in #linux
[10:33] <dj007> sorrry
[10:35] <BlackPanx> iostat -N should show device names, but it doesnt on one of my servers. do i need aditional package/module in kernel installed to make device-mapper show proper LV's of disk... ?
[10:35] <dj007> any 1
[10:37] <oddie> is there another channel to conenct to if you have issues with 12.10? compiz no longer loads, fglrx is not installing I think, needs dependencies that are no longer in 12.10
[10:37] <MonkeyDust> oddie  try #ubuntu+1
[10:38] <oddie> MonkeyDust thank you :D
[10:45] <dr_willis> the joys of testing 12.10  ;)
[10:45] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: its been ok here :)
[10:45] <dr_willis> roller coaster last month with it.
[10:45] <tasslehoff> What makes fsck run on a standard 12.04 install? tune2fs shows me a Maximum Count of -1 and a Check Interval of 0.
[10:46] <tasslehoff> (if it runs at all)
[10:48] <N03L> I can only scroll down with f12, how do you scroll up? F11 just fullscreens the chat (Weechat)
[10:48] <yki> how do I have to select files in terminal wich are starting with "["
[10:50] <Guest57658> Hi just got my first ubuntu laptop - cant seem to install the 64 bit google hangout plugin for chrome - keeps sending me back to green install plugin button: https://plus.google.com/hangouts?enfplm
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> yki  find -name "^[*"
[10:50] <Blazemore> I accidentally installed a package at some point which pulled down X along with a million other desktop dependencies
[10:50] <Blazemore> How can I remove the x server
[10:50] <MonkeyDust> yki  ^ means: beginning of the line
[10:50] <Guest57658> have restarted chrome and whole machine to no avail
[10:50] <dr_willis> N03L:  the window manager/terminal app is grabbing some of the shortcuts it seems
[10:51] <yki> Thank you!
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[10:52] <BlackPanx> iostat -N should show LVS names, but it doesnt on one of my servers. do i need aditional package/module in kernel installed to make device-mapper show proper LV's of disk... ? using ubuntu distro.
[10:54] <N03L> dr_willis: Of course. How silly of me. Thanks.
[10:54] <mystblade9> If I use tasksel to install Xubuntu and remove Ubuntu, will I have a clean Xubuntu system - and could I easily switch back to Ubuntu by deselecting Xubuntu and selecting Ubuntu?
[10:54] <jack-xtr> can someone tell me if an ubuntu-like OS is there that can work with only an "enlightenment" or an "openbox" on it
[10:55] <Blazemore> crunchbang uses openbox and is based on Debian
[10:55] <Blazemore> Ubuntu is also based on Debian, so you'll find yourself right at home
[10:55] <cfhowlett> jack-xtr: ubuntu.  Just install openbox and select at login
[10:55] <Blazemore> Crunchbang's the ultimate in "well, might as well stick Linux on this piece of shit"
[10:56] <NewWorld> jack-xtr:  all of them can. All linux distros can.
[10:56] <compdoc> BlackPanx, do you think you need to install lvm2?
[10:56] <hateball> !ot
[10:56] <BlackPanx> compdoc of course not, lvm2 is installed. and works. i just need mapped dm-0 to for example /dev/LV/LV_VSERVER
[10:57] <BlackPanx> dmsetup shows it
[10:57] <BlackPanx> but...
[10:57] <BlackPanx> iostat should too
[10:57] <m3pow> if there any ubuntu software that canhelp me run windows apps ?
[10:57] <BlackPanx> would like to get iostat work, since i run iostat for statistic purposes
[10:57] <Blazemore> m3pow: Yes, Wine
[10:57] <Blazemore> Do we have a shortcut for
[10:57] <Blazemore> !wine
[10:57] <BlackPanx> m3pow try playonlinux
[10:57] <cfhowlett> !wine|m3pow:
[10:58] <BlackPanx> !playonlinux
[10:58] <m3pow> thanks a lot, appreciate it !
[10:58] <BlackPanx> :(
[10:58] <N03L> m3pow: Yeah, Wine is one. But no guarantee the windows apps will run properly with it.
[10:58] <Blazemore> Of course there's no guarentee. m3pow What did you want to run, specifically?
[10:59] <BlackPanx> u might want to check http://www.playonlinux.com/en/ also, since that brings whole load of programs you can install and with settings for wine, to make it work.
[10:59] <m3pow> Blazemore , Eclipse IDE
[10:59] <Blazemore> m3pow: There's a Linux version of that already
[10:59] <m3pow> i just installed Ubuntu yesterday, love it
[10:59] <m3pow> is there ?
[10:59] <BlackPanx> m3pow you dont need wine for that
[10:59] <BlackPanx> of course
[10:59] <Blazemore> In fact, I didn't even know there was a Windows version of Eclipse
[10:59] <m3pow> oh great
[11:00] <Blazemore> Just open the Software Centre and search for Eclipse
[11:00] <m3pow> yes there is a windows version, i used it in college
[11:00] <Blazemore> Then click Install, put your password in, and boom, Eclipse is installed
[11:00] <naftilos76> does anybody know where i can get latest thunderbird for my ubuntu 10.10 ? I tried a repo but something i wrong and synaptic does not show up the 3.3 ver while it should.
[11:00] <gordonjcp> isn't Eclipse written in Java?
[11:00] <Blazemore> Do not try to go to the eclipse website, download a file and do something with it
[11:00] <m3pow> yes it is written in JAVA
[11:00] <gordonjcp> and therefore, works on anything with a JVM?
[11:00] <m3pow> found it
[11:00] <Blazemore> In principle, yes
[11:00] <m3pow> had no idea
[11:00] <m3pow> thanks
[11:01] <BlackPanx> naftilos76 u need to add latest thunderbird repository, or just install it from their website... it's .deb package and it works like charm if you just click twice on it.
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> naftilos76: Maverick is EOL
[11:01] <ActionParsnip> naftilos76: so no, it shouldn't show anything, there are no more packages for Maverick
[11:02] <Blazemore> Maverick is my second favourite release, after 6.06
[11:02] <naftilos76> BlackPanx: their website does not give binaries - only source
[11:02] <m3pow> oh it has RoR aswell in software centre
[11:03] <Blazemore> What's RoR?
[11:04] <m3pow> Rails framework for Ruby language
[11:04] <m3pow> Ruby On Rails
[11:04] <Blazemore> Oh right
[11:04] <m3pow> and i see i can install Ruby from terminal
[11:04] <m3pow> Linux is so smooth
[11:05] <Blazemore> I'd always recommend using apt-get in a terminal to install software
[11:05] <Blazemore> m3pow: Is this your first Linux distro?
[11:05] <m3pow> yes
[11:05] <Blazemore> m3pow: have you come from Windows?
[11:05] <m3pow> yes...sadly
[11:05] <BlackPanx> baftilos76 did you open that tar.bz2 ? it's precompiled source. meaning, binary. but either way add ppa:mozillateam/thunderbird-stable
[11:06] <Blazemore> m3pow: Just a reminder that #ubuntu-beginners exists if you have any fundamental questions, or you think a question would be better suited
[11:06] <BlackPanx> naftilos76*
[11:06] <m3pow> thank you Blazemore
[11:06] <N03L> I'm new to Ubuntu. Sorry.
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> naftilos76: I suggest a clean install of Precise. It is the latest stable ubuntu and is also LTS
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> N03L: everyone is at some point
[11:08] <cfhowlett> naftilos76: second ActionParsnip's suggestion: clean install, LTS is the way to go.
[11:08] <urhet> hi
[11:08] <qak> for the life of me I can't get mpd to start up properly. even doing `sudo -u mpd /usr/bin/mpd` fails with errors about the port being in use (netstat says it's not), no audio_output defined (there is, but afaik shouldn't need to be). I'm stumped
[11:08] <cfhowlett> urhet: greetings
[11:08] <N03L> It's amazing. I'm just starting to learn Unix language.
[11:08] <naftilos76> ActionParsnip: Thanks but no thanks. I have been trying all the latest vers of ubuntu and i ended up considering 10.10 the most suitable and stable. I may be wrong!
[11:09] <SimonJai> hey guys, recently VIA VT6421A thinking I could RAID0 and run Ubuntu off that.... wrong
[11:09] <BlackPanx> iostat -N should show LV names, but it doesnt on one of my servers. do i need aditional package/module in kernel installed to make device-mapper show proper LV's of disk... ? using ubuntu distro.
[11:09] <naftilos76> Thanks guys anyway
[11:09] <SimonJai> seems like i got to include the VIA driver file in the BIOS firmware, and then reflash the mobo
[11:09] <iNTEl_> hey dudes
[11:09] <SimonJai> any ideas how to do that?
[11:09] <iNTEl_> oh cool
[11:10] <iNTEl_> i think i can get help here
[11:10] <iNTEl_> i have a prop
[11:10] <iNTEl_> after i installed ubutnu 12.04
[11:10] <iNTEl_> i installed windows xp
[11:10] <iNTEl_> so the windows xp in not reading or showing the ubuntu in the boot menu
[11:11] <gordonjcp> `
[11:11] <iNTEl_> any one could help ?
[11:11] <cfhowlett> iNTEl_: you used the windows ubuntu installer?
[11:11] <iNTEl_> nah
[11:11] <iNTEl_> after i installed ubuntu from a DVD
[11:11] <iNTEl_> i installed windows xp
[11:11] <cfhowlett> iNTEl_: got it.
[11:12] <iNTEl_> k
[11:12] <cfhowlett> !grub|iNTEL_
[11:12] <cfhowlett> iNTEl_: you need to restore grub.  See the link above
[11:12] <MonkeyDust> iNTEl_  first win, then lin... windows ruins everything that is not windows, e.g. the GRUB menu
[11:12] <iNTEl_> k
[11:12] <cfhowlett> MonkeyDust: stealing your quote! "first win, then lin"
[11:13] <iNTEl_> chfowlett_ ty for help
[11:13] <iNTEl_> but am now using xp
[11:13] <iNTEl_> so can i do that from the xp
[11:13] <iNTEl_> cuz i can't login to ubuntu by anyway
[11:13] <cfhowlett> iNTEl_: yes.  read the link.  You'll need to boot your ubuntu dvd and then fix.
[11:13] <iNTEl_> k
[11:13] <MonkeyDust> iNTEl_  try and repair the grub menu
[11:13] <iNTEl_> cool thnx
[11:13] <iNTEl_> i was have another prop
[11:13] <iNTEl_> k
[11:13] <iNTEl_> i will try :D
[11:14] <nature> .
[11:14] <iNTEl_> i forgot the pass
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> nafstill doesn't mean its supported here, the OS will run but the is zero suport here or anywhere for Maverick
[11:14] <iNTEl_> and i tried all what i can remember
[11:14] <iNTEl_> but nothing worked
[11:14] <cfhowlett> !password|iNTEL_
[11:14] <cfhowlett> iNTEl_: first fix grub, then fix password
[11:15] <iNTEl_> tea
[11:15] <iNTEl_> yea
[11:15] <iNTEl_> k
[11:15] <iNTEl_> i will fix the pass
[11:15] <FloodBot1> iNTEl_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:15] <iNTEl_> then i will come back
[11:17] <MalMen> can anybody help me to mount a remote dir from windows7 on my ubuntu ?  i use malmen@asus-pc:~/workspace$ sudo mount -t cifs //10.12.12.113/htdocs /home/malmen/workspace/windows/ -o username="my user",password=mypass,defaults and that mounts ok, but stays read only
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> MalMen: add the option:   rw,user
[11:19] <MonkeyDust> MalMen  in /etc/exports on the remote pc
[11:19] <MalMen> ActionParsnip after defaults ?
[11:20] <MalMen> MonkeyDust remote pc is windows7
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> MalMen  sorry, misreafd
[11:20] <MonkeyDust> misread*
[11:21] <jacta> Does anyone know if theres a place to discuss about usage of aptana?
[11:21] <iNTEl_> chfhowlett , r u here ?
[11:21] <cfhowlett> iNTEl_: yes
[11:22] <MalMen> on mounted dir i can create dirs only with sudo
[11:23] <MalMen> chown: a alterar o dono de «windows»: permition denied
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> thats portugese ;)
[11:24] <MalMen> yes it is xD
[11:28] <Noodels> Hi, I was this thread here which has helped me fix a problem ( http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7773811/gcc-compile-has-undefined-references-despite-previously-functional-linking-ubunt ), as a developer, should I make any changes to my program to make it compile straight away on ubuntu without having to apply patches to the Makefile after it's generated? Should I wait for autotools or gcc to be fixed?
[11:29] <qak> when i start mpd it says "failed to bind to 0.0.0.0:6600 address already in use", but `netstat -lptn` shows nothing on that port. any ideas?
[11:30] <Noodels> qak: Is this after a fresh boot or did you previously run and stop mpd?
[11:30] <hal> I am looking for a GUI file manager with two panels, that will allow me to browse two almost identical file systems and *visually* compare them. Thus, it will allow me to descend into usr/local/bin from usr/local/ in both /mnt/backup/daily.0/usr/local/ and /mnt/backup/daily.1/usr/local/
[11:31] <hal> does anyone have any suggestions, please?
[11:31] <JonJ> Would dolphins split view work?
[11:31] <qak> Noodels: mpd stopped working may 27 ; rebooted several times, been going at it this morning trying to get it to work with no luck. been killing it with  "kill -term `pgrep mpd`" and checking lsof to make sure it's dead
[11:31] <NewWorld> hal:  what does it mean to visually compare?
[11:32] <Raji> Hello everyone i want to share files using empathy but in empathy Send file is in disabled.
[11:32] <hal> really, I want it to "lock" onto the roots of those hierarchies, at backup.0 and backup.1, and use one panel to navigate both
[11:32] <qak> hal: i thought mc did that, but it's been a *long* time
[11:32] <hal> NewWorld: just look at them, as you would with any file manager. In other words, I don't need any diff of the directories
[11:33] <NewWorld> hal:  I get it, you wanna navigate two nearly identical dirs from just one of the panels - not both.
[11:33] <Raji> Hello everyone i want to share files using empathy but in empathy Send file is in disabled. How to enable that.
[11:33] <hal> NewWorld: precisely :)
[11:34] <Noodels> qak: Strange. Check mpd has left any files in /var
[11:34] <MonkeyDust> hal  in nautilus, press F3 to have two panels
[11:35] <Noodels> qak: MPD keeps some files there, so if it crashed they might still be there and preventing it from restarting. Beyond that, I don't know sorry.
[11:35] <qak> Noodels: i've tried deleting all of /var/lib/mpd/ before starting it; i've tried `start mpd` as well as `sudo -u mpd /usr/bin/mpd` ... i see some msgs in /var/log/upstart/mpd but nothing to go on
[11:35] <iNTEl> cfhowlett , dude can u give me the link again
[11:35] <cfhowlett> !grub|iNTEl:
[11:35] <iNTEl> k ty
[11:35] <qak> Noodels: i'll keep at it ... thanks for your thoughts
[11:35] <nature> .
[11:36] <Noodels> qak: I would use a different port, but you shouldn't /have/ to do that. Definitely sounds like an mpd specific problem rather than an ubuntu specific problem though.
[11:36] <NewWorld> hal:  Well I've been a Krusader user  for a long time and don't think it can do that locking thing (although, I haven't explored all features of Krusader thoroughly)
[11:36] <killer_> hi...if i install ubuntu 12.10 beta now.....then after official release ...do i need to reinstall or just upgrade??
[11:36] <MonkeyDust> killer_  ask in #ubuntu+1
[11:36] <Noodels> qak: There's probably an #mpd channel that can better help you
[11:36] <jrib> qak: have you purged the package responsible for mpd and its configuration?
[11:36] <hal> NewWorld: yeah, I installed krusader this morning, but couldn't find a way, unfortunately
[11:36] <qak> Noodels: i'm trying `apt-get install --reinstall mpd` but if that doesn't work i'll try #mpd
[11:37] <SimonJai> is it possible to software raid0 the HDD which ubuntu is installed on?
[11:38] <Noriandir> does any of you being able to use the java plugin on firefox? i've upgraded to 1.7.0_7 but it still doenst work
[11:39] <MonkeyDust> Noriandir  i guess you need icedtea
[11:40] <Fudge> anyone use apt-mirror, how in the conf file can I specify amd64 and i386 on the use architecture line, not deb sources
[11:40] <MonkeyDust> !find icedtea
[11:40] <Noriandir> MonkeyDust, I have jdk1.7.0 installed and followed this instructions: http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/javase/manual-plugin-install-linux-136395.html
[11:41] <MonkeyDust> Noriandir  you may want to try open-jdk, not oracle jdk
[11:41] <Noriandir> MonkeyDust, I need to use jdk (i'm a developer)
[11:42] <MonkeyDust> !java > Noriandir
[11:42] <iNTEl> cfhowlett : its didn't work
[11:42] <hal> MonkeyDust: F3 doesn't do it, I'm afraid
[11:42] <iNTEl> ?
[11:43] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: details ...
[11:43] <iNTEl> w8
[11:43] <MonkeyDust> hal  F3 opens a second panel in nautilus
[11:44] <iNTEl> cfhowlett : ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda3 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[11:44] <hal> MonkeyDust: yes, but it doesn't browse both directory file structures using one panel
[11:44] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: why did you put select /sda/dev3?  usually, grub goes to /sda/dev
[11:44] <iNTEl> cfhowlett : am installing ubuntu on dev/sda6 and i choosed dev/sda3  as a boot loader
[11:45] <iNTEl> u know am trying to turn from WINDOWS
[11:45] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: how many partitions have you got now?
[11:45] <MonkeyDust> hal  try mc (midnight commander), it looks like Norton Commander 4 from the old days
[11:45] <iNTEl> alot
[11:45] <iNTEl> 6 partitions
[11:46] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  you most likely wanted grub on sda  not sda3
[11:46] <iNTEl> so i don't have a lot of exp
[11:46] <iNTEl> k np
[11:46] <iNTEl> if it won't del or wipe my drives
[11:46] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: grub will not wipe drives
[11:46] <iNTEl> i know
[11:46] <iNTEl> just afraid :D
[11:46] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: worst case, you have to configure the bootloader...
[11:46] <dr_willis> hal theres a great many other  '2 pane file managers' out there. nautilus used to have a dual mode on 'f3' i belive..
[11:47] <iNTEl> cfhowlett : k
[11:47] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: understood.  breath.
[11:47] <NewWorld> hal:  Not ideal, but Vim allows you to browse dirs (use Nerdtree), and I remember you can apply commands (to browse in this case) to two Vim windows from a single Vim window.
[11:47] <iNTEl> cfhowlett : k am breathing all i wanna is restore my ubuntu
[11:47] <Noriandir> MonkeyDust, I already have jre and jdk correctly configured. that's not the problem
[11:49] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: try grub-install /dev/sda
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: with sudo ;)
[11:49] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip: but of course.
[11:49] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: try sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[11:49] <iNTEl> k
[11:50] <iNTEl> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo grub-install /dev/sda3 /usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: cannot find a device for /boot/grub (is /dev mounted?).
[11:50] <SimonJai> guess no one knows.....
[11:50] <SimonJai> shame.....
[11:50] <iNTEl> cfhowlett:cannot find a device for /boot/grub
[11:50] <SimonJai> all good, got it all working
[11:50] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: just to confirm, ONE hdd, right?
[11:51] <iNTEl> nah
[11:52] <iNTEl> cfhowlett , its 1 hard disk
[11:52] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: ok.  next thought: did you allow ubuntu to automatically partition or did you manually do it?
[11:52] <iNTEl> cfhowlett : 6 partitions , 1 hard disk , ubuntu installed on dev/sda6 15 GB , boot loader on dev/sda3
[11:52] <iNTEl> no i manually did it
[11:53] <iNTEl> cuz i was have any operating system
[11:53] <iNTEl> so ubuntu was gonna to erase the whole part
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> iNTEl: are you chrooted?
[11:53] <iNTEl> i mean the whole hard disk
[11:53] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: final question: you DID remember that windows and ubuntu both like MBR partition schemes?  And that means no more than 4 primary partitions?
[11:54] <ActionParsnip> iNTEl: follow this: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[11:55] <Eagleman> I need an alternative to webmin and zentyal
[11:56] <iNTEl> ya
[11:56] <iNTEl> i just have 3 primary
[11:56] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: follow the link Action Parsnip sent
[11:56] <iNTEl> i think
[11:56] <iNTEl> k
[11:57] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: ssh :)
[11:57] <dr_willis> perhaps better to state what features you need.
[11:57] <Eagleman> ActionParsnip i am using ssh but i just want some webgui
[11:58] <Eagleman> i did not like the way zentyal was changing config files
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: in what way do you modify the OS?
[12:00] <iNTEl> cfhowlett : there is a lot of commands
[12:00] <iNTEl> and i cant understand it
[12:01] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: slow down.  take your time.  this can be fixed.
[12:01] <Eagleman> ActionParsnip changing some configs and installing things
[12:01] <ActionParsnip> iNTEl: watch the vieo, it's not hard
[12:02] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: you can install things with apt-get
[12:02] <Eagleman> ActionParsnip i am already doing it that way
[12:02] <iNTEl> actionparsinp : ah i didn't told u
[12:03] <iNTEl> am now using livd cd
[12:03] <iNTEl> so i can use terminal
[12:04] <BlackPanx> iostat -N should show LV names, but it doesnt on one of my servers. do i need aditional package/module in kernel installed to make device-mapper show proper LV's of disk... ? using ubuntu distro.
[12:04] <iNTEl> i think i should install ubuntu again
[12:04] <iNTEl> its more easier XD
[12:05] <cfhowlett> iNTEl: that's one way to fix it...
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> iNTEl: sure you can. you can do anything you can in a live OS that you can in an installed OS except reboot
[12:05] <ActionParsnip> iNTEl: hardly needed but yes its easier, just a bit OTT for the sake of a bootloader..
[12:06] <iNTEl> k
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> iNTEl: once you run the terminal you can use the guide and chroot properly and reinstate the bootloader,
[12:08] <^DEMOSS^> hello, anybody can help me? i clone my phisical server to virtual using vmware 5.0 converter ( 10.10 lts \ i686 ) but have a failed boot vm. I do some things to install grub 2 again, but failed all. grub error: symbol 'grub_puts_' not found  - is now )
[12:09] <bazhang> ^DEMOSS^, 10.10 is not LTS
[12:09] <jrib> ^DEMOSS^: 10.10 is not lts.  10.10 is no longer supported even
[12:09] <^DEMOSS^> ok
[12:09] <bazhang> ^DEMOSS^, upgrade
[12:09] <^DEMOSS^> i cant upgrade
[12:09] <jrib> ^DEMOSS^: why?
[12:10] <bazhang> ^DEMOSS^, it's not supported here
[12:10] <cfhowlett> !eol
[12:10] <^DEMOSS^> i can't loading my system. couse have problem with grub
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> ^DEMOSS^: its not supported anymore
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> ^DEMOSS^: its like calling Microsoft support for windows 95 support, they won't help you as it is dead
[12:10] <cfhowlett> It's not even supported here.
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> ^DEMOSS^: maverick is also dead
[12:11] <Eagleman> So ActionParsnip you are saying i should ust stick with ssh and not get a webgui?
[12:11] <^DEMOSS^> -_- 10.10 is super-pupper secure nano ubuntu, what have non-material system and not ubuntu ?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> Eagleman: if you are doing such basic stuff as installing software, you can use SSH for taht and gain a whole bunch of security rather than some junk web interface
[12:12] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  thats the best way i would think.
[12:12] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  what?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> English?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> ^DEMOSS^: maverick is EOL, all that nonesense is mooted by this fact
[12:13] <Eagleman> i will deinstall webmin and zentyal then
[12:13] <Eagleman> on your advise
[12:13] <BlackPanx> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysstat/+bug/358382 is this a bug or not ?
[12:13] <cfhowlett> In other words, "It's dead, Jim."
[12:14] <^DEMOSS^> how i can upgrade maveric to non-eol bild ?
[12:14] <cfhowlett> clean install.
[12:14] <cfhowlett> NOT upgrade
[12:14] <MonkeyDust> ^DEMOSS^  frsh install is the fastest and easiest way, don't forget to backup, first
[12:14] <dr_willis> a clean install would be easier i imagine
[12:14] <cfhowlett> And I suggest you go with an 12.04 as it is LTS
[12:15] <^DEMOSS^> ok - but how i can do clan install, if i need to boot my SERVER  were i have MORE working service ?
[12:15] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  what?
[12:16] <^DEMOSS^> i need boot my system, if i wanna to reconfigure more system application to work an another system and server
[12:16] <^DEMOSS^> many pple can't working now, becouse ican't boot system
[12:17] <anyfrancis> Hello
[12:17] <aum__> in rc.local i have added "firefox &" so as to start firefox on every boot but its not working . any suggestion  how to fix it...
[12:17] <jrib> !startup | aum__
[12:17] <dr_willis> aum__:  rc.local is NOT for x/gui apps
[12:17] <jrib> aum__: don't use rc.local for that
[12:17] <dr_willis> use your users autorun directory
[12:17] <dr_willis> or was it autostart
[12:18] <jrib> dr_willis: ~/.config/autostart/ I guess
[12:18] <cfhowlett> demoss  I guess you're the sysadmin?  Send out word that you're upgrading and sys will be unavailable for ### hours.  Make a plan, make a back, make a download and install your system.  Just my opinion.
[12:18] <aum__> jrib, i can not use graphics , its not in my control
[12:18] <jrib> aum__: if you can't use graphics, what's the point of trying to run firefox?
[12:18] <diverdude> how can i count how many files this command finds? find Plugin/TwigView/tmp/views/ -iname '*.php'
[12:19] <aum__> dr_willis, its like a kiosk system on every boot up i need firefox to start
[12:19] <jrib> diverdude: pipe to « wc -l »
[12:19] <^DEMOSS^> cfhowlett: this server - it is so big SHIT, that doing two stuped pple who worked before me
[12:19] <dr_willis> aum__:  you set up a koisk x session and have lightdm start it
[12:19] <diverdude> jrex: thx
[12:19] <bazhang> ^DEMOSS^, no cursing here
[12:20] <mystblade9> I've just switched to xubuntu. Now how do I remove all the applications that were included with Ubuntu (the Unity version), so that it leaves only the applications xubuntu-desktop installed?
[12:20] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  time to build your own server then i guess and transfer stuff over
[12:20] <bazhang> !purexfce | mystblade9
[12:21] <aum__> dr_willis, how to set up a kiosk x session , basically i need to give random parameter to the firefox so i can not give it a static parameter
[12:21] <cfhowlett> demoss ask in #ubuntu-server.  Maybe there's an answer there.
[12:21] <dr_willis> aum__:  theres guides out about it. and even koisk-specific ubuntu varients and live cds
[12:21] <dr_willis> no ides what you mean about random/static...
[12:22] <dr_willis> koick extensions for firefox also
[12:22] <mystblade9> bazhang: thanks :)
[12:22] <dr_willis> koisk
[12:23] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com most likely has some info on setting up a koisk
[12:24] <^DEMOSS^> i need doing 2 things - 1 - i need free hardware - so i must convert phisical server to virtual. then, pple working on application on virtual machine, and i am build new system on physical machibe and reconfigure all infrastructure... AND i am not using ubuntu - this is no true  and have a lot of problem. I using debian 6.0 and have not problem with my project.
[12:24] <MonkeyDust> aum__   http://www.instructables.com/id/Setting-Up-Ubuntu-as-a-Kiosk-Web-Appliance/
[12:25] <bazhang> ^DEMOSS^, then ask in #debian , that is NOT supported here
[12:25] <Eagleman> and what about controlling kvm dr_willis and ActionParsnip?
[12:25] <dr_willis> even if you are using ubuntu - i think that would be out of scope for our support
[12:25] <Eagleman> stick to the cli or use a webgui?
[12:25] <^DEMOSS^> i's funny to hair here, that ubuntu is not ubuntu
[12:25] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  kvm means what in this instance?
[12:26] <Eagleman> kvm hypervisor
[12:26] <bazhang> !ot | ^DEMOSS^
[12:26] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  you just said you were not using ubuntu.. but debian
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> ^DEMOSS^: ubuntu is ubuntu, just that releases do die, just as all OSes do. You are using a dead release. Debian is also not ubuntu, it is debian and has its own channel
[12:26] <^DEMOSS^> i am not, but SERVER using now this sh*t
[12:26] <BlueWolf> Hi, is there any Linux program capable of creating 3D, 2D or 1D Characters similar to Spore.
[12:26] <BlueWolf> ?
[12:27] <MonkeyDust> BlueWolf  what's Spore?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> demoss might be time to consider purchasing support from canonical if this is beyond you...
[12:27] <dr_willis> spore. ;) what a fun game.
[12:27] <bazhang> ^DEMOSS^, no more cursing. dont ask for debian support here
[12:27] <BlueWolf> MonkeyDust: Spore is a windows game that allows one to make such characters
[12:28] <Eagleman> and what about controlling the kvm hypervisor?
[12:28] <BlueWolf> dr_willis: ;-)
[12:28] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  you are not being clear... the server is ubuntu. but your desktop is debian?
[12:28] <cfhowlett> quote:  AND i am not using ubuntu - this is no true  and have a lot of problem. I using debian 6.0 and have not problem with my project
[12:28] <dr_willis> BlueWolf:  with an annoying game tossed in.
[12:30] <^DEMOSS^> bazhang: excuse me, but i think, i can find some help here about ubuntu, becouse i working with server on OS ubuntu, and i can't understand why in channel ubuntu i can't get help for starting Ubuntu ?
[12:30] <BlueWolf> 	
[12:30] <BlueWolf> dr_willis: Agreed.
[12:30] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  you are confuseing people with what you are saying....
[12:30] <gordonjcp> !ask | ^DEMOSS^
[12:30] <cfhowlett> demoss see your quote  AND i am not using ubuntu - this is no true  and have a lot of problem. I using debian 6.0 and have not problem with my project
[12:30] <bazhang> ^DEMOSS^, 10.10 is NOT supported here. stop asking for help with it
[12:31] <bazhang> ^DEMOSS^, neither is debian.
[12:31] <BlueWolf> ^DEMOSS^: What help are you looking for in Ubuntu?
[12:31] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  if  your 10.10 server is dead. id build a new server, move the hard drive over and transfer the needed data, or use a live cd to transfer it over
[12:31] <cfhowlett> demoss  the fix is to clean install.  period point blank.  How you manage that in a server environment is not something we can help with.
[12:31] <^DEMOSS^> I have no negative feelings to the people here. I can not understand your policy. It is very strange.
[12:32] <^DEMOSS^> ok i understand
[12:32] <gordonjcp> ^DEMOSS^: what's strange about it? We don't support obsolete releases
[12:32] <^DEMOSS^> bye :(
[12:32] <BlueWolf> ^DEMOSS^: http://ubottu.com/y/gl
[12:32] <dr_willis> i think we have a 'language' barrier..
[12:33] <BlueWolf> A serious one ;-)
[12:33] <cob> hi guys, don't get stressed
[12:33] <gry> if you install bum (boot up manager) do you see long '92...da2' (about 14 symbols) long names of some services, or is it just me? what is a good tool to see startup services and descriptions without such issues?
[12:34] <dr_willis> !info bum
[12:34] <dr_willis> i thought bum was obsolete. ;) not tried it in years
[12:34] <cob> bleargh, these graphical things are nasty
[12:34] <cob> except aptitude
[12:35] <dr_willis> gry you just exploreing the services?
[12:35] <gry> aptitude gui ?
[12:35] <gry> yes dr_willis
[12:35] <dr_willis> aptitude is  sort of obsolete also
[12:35] <cob> right, but gui, whether curses or X based, is nasty for configuring software...
[12:35] <gry> dr_willis: some are unneeded and a description would be about all i would want -- and a button to turn off without editing files manually
[12:36] <dr_willis> gry not surer there is a upstart gui tool like that
[12:36] <cob> man update-rc.d
[12:36] <dr_willis> remove the unneeded services or rename the services /etc/init.d/servicename.conf   i belive to disable them
[12:37] <dr_willis> update-rc.d may not work with all upstart services. but it may be better these days
[12:37] <dr_willis> it usedc to not work with them at all ages ago.
[12:37] <cob> i looked recently
[12:38] <cob> it works with most things now
[12:38] <gry> the rc runlevel things are something i keep trying to avoid (last time i tried to understand it was fairly confusing and i would expect that there is an application not involving such mess to do the job)
[12:38] <dr_willis> upstart is getting mature enough where they will replace it soon i bet... ;)
[12:38] <ikonia> gry: it's basically a mess at the moment
[12:39] <alpre> you don't understand the beauty of it
[12:39] <ikonia> I really do
[12:39] <alpre> :)
[12:39] <dr_willis> its amazeing it works as well as it does
[12:39] <gry> (such as er, i installed apache and start it up on each boot but i don't need it anymore as it's a home box)
[12:39] <ikonia> the legacy init process is still the most sane tool.
[12:40] <dr_willis> gry use package managre to remove apache, or rename the apache.conf to apache.dontrun   is one way
[12:40] <cob> yeah, i think so too
[12:40] <gry> ikonia: the update-rc.d is ?
[12:40] <ikonia> gry: no, systemV init
[12:40] <ikonia> gry: older still
[12:40] <cob> gry: no, just hardcore shell scripts :D
[12:40] <BlueWolf> Is there any Linux program capable of creating 3D, 2D or 1D Characters similar to Spore?
[12:40] <dD0T> Hi. Is there any reason the "time in other locations" feature doesn't include timezone names? I really don't want to select a city name when all I want is the timezone.
[12:40] <dr_willis> BlueWolf:   blender. ;) but thats for much more
[12:41] <dD0T> (there is UTC but that seems to be it)
[12:41] <GirlyGirl> BlueWolf: Spore itself runs properly under WINE
[12:41] <ikonia> BlueWolf: depending on wine as a long term solution is not wise thoug
[12:41] <ikonia> though
[12:42] <Promethes> how to install ia32-libs-multiarch on ubuntu 12.04? i tried sudo apt-get install ia32-libs-multiarch but i get error about libcurl3 (386) dependency that cannot be installed. Anyone?
[12:42] <fidel> !info ia32-libs-multiarch
[12:42] <BlueWolf> 	
[12:42] <BlueWolf> dr_willis: Blender will take ages to learn not that I can't. GirlyGirl: I use Spore as an example. ikonia: I know it will run under wine, any similar programs?
[12:42] <Eagleman> dr_willis what do you think about managing KVM hypervisor, do you prefer the cli os a webgui?
[12:43] <GirlyGirl> BlueWolf: You could also use inkscape or even gimp but that needs some practice
[12:44] <DX099> hello, everyone, hmm how should I put it, have anyone heard about this : http://vimeo.com/48631985 ?
[12:44] <ikonia> DX099: how is that an ubuntu topic ?
[12:44] <MonkeyDust> DX099  it's on omgubuntu today
[12:44] <DX099> ikonia, I believe it is
[12:44] <ikonia> DX099: how ?
[12:44] <fidel> DX099: why?
[12:44] <Promethes> fidel: i tried to install this, but it wont install (dependency error)
[12:45] <ikonia> DX099: how is it an ubuntu topic ?
[12:45] <ikonia> am I missing the point ?
[12:45] <knick_> Hi guys - question - I can't get GNOME3 to work with the neat looking interface. I keep getting placed in the classic layout. Tried using tutorials but it just doesn't work (with Unity, that is)
[12:45] <usr13> DX099: I'm sure some of us have.  Why do you ask?
[12:45] <BlueWolf> GirlyGirl: I know gimp really well strangely, but I wondered if there was a program more suited to making Characters, drawings of them similar to warcraft or Wow drawings?
[12:45] <usr13> ikonia: It uses Ubuntu OS.
[12:45] <DX099> usr13, does that mean that Unity is definitely going over table-like interface ?
[12:45] <gry> knick_ you may want to mention your hardware and specs details ( but don't address me, someone else would be helping you )
[12:46] <ikonia> usr13: ahh, it uses ubuntu, ok, thank you
[12:46] <knick_> gry: It worked before, it might be some configuration issue, I don't know.. My hardware is strong enough for it though
[12:46] <GirlyGirl> BlueWolf: I doubt you will find programs with ready made character builders like adding a premade eyeball etc except in game creators
[12:46] <DX099> ikonia, yesterday I was struggling to sync an android device with Ubuntu 12.04... so instant android recognition.. I won't say no
[12:47] <iNTEl> actionparsnip : ?
[12:47] <ikonia> DX099: sorry, I don't understand you're failure to sync with android has anything to do with the video you posted
[12:47] <usr13> ikonia: The "wave-of-the-future" includes smart-phones and tables, *but also includes Linux/Ubuntu*.
[12:47] <ikonia> "yeah right"
[12:48] <cfhowlett> BlueWolf: maybe cinepaint??
[12:48] <BlueWolf> GirlyGirl: Dully noted, Well I guess it's the hard way round in Gimp. Haaaaaaa
[12:48] <DX099> ikonia, on the video, you can see Unity instantly turning into android phone interface
[12:48] <BlueWolf> cfhowlett: Eplain more? :D
[12:48] <ikonia> DX099: yes, towards the end you can see unity running.
[12:48] <zelluz> ActionParsnip: Dont know if you remember me(the issue with duplicates of everything on screen) But I fixed it! The issue was corrupt .gvfs in users home folder.
[12:49] <DX099> ikonia, it's not just a matter of seeing it, the guy clearly says : "thanks to the power of Ubuntu" or something similar
[12:49] <ikonia> DX099: again, I don't see the relevence.
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> zelluz: ahhhh
[12:49] <cfhowlett> BlueWolf: never mind.  seems to be a customized fork of gimp for retouching and painting bitmap film frames.
[12:50] <ikonia> DX099: #ubuntu-discuss maybe a good place to chat about it/get info etc
[12:50] <DX099> ikonia, ok
[12:50] <BlueWolf> 	
[12:50] <BlueWolf> cfhowlett: Ok thanks
[12:50] <Noobuntu> how do you get the fm radio plugin working on rhtyhmbox/
[12:50] <Noobuntu> ?
[12:50] <Noobuntu> I have enabled it but still don't see FM radio in the music lbrary..
[12:51] <usr13> I just now watched the entire video and I see that nex may be on the right track in that they may have discovered what is important/userul to people in the way of computing and internet access.
[12:51] <Promethes> why support for 32bit apps i so broken in ubuntu 12.04 64bit? i cannot install required libraries for running 32bit apps
[12:51] <BlueWolf> Thanks for the Help :D
[12:51] <usr13> *useful*
[12:52] <usr13> Promethes: Why can't you?
[12:52] <fidel> Promethes: consider showing us the full output in a pastebin
[12:53] <fidel> this should include your os-version as well in best case
[12:53] <Promethes> i am trying to run "sudo apt-get install librtmp0:i386" - but apt wants to remove half of my packages from the system
[12:53] <punisher_> i have a ubuntu 11.10 installed on my laptop and the electricity came out. and when i turn it on again it freaked me out with these two messages: 1) checking for disk errors....2)entering the keyring
[12:53] <punisher_> can anyone help me
[12:53] <punisher_> ?
[12:53] <dr_willis> gnome keyring file m ay have gotten currupted
[12:53] <fidel> punisher_: where is the problem if your device is checking its disk after loosing power?
[12:54] <dr_willis> so its remaking it
[12:54] <fidel> !details > punisher_
[12:54] <h22turbo> punisher_: its fine... it checking the hard drive (kinda like windows does if shutdown improperly)
[12:55] <punisher_> the problem arose when it checked the disks every time you boot up to it
[12:55] <BluesKaj> Heyas all
[12:55] <h22turbo> punisher_: time to format and install ubuntu 12.04 then!
[12:55] <h22turbo> lol
[12:57] <h22turbo> Promethes: i installed 32 bit libs on 64 bit just fine... nothing is broken
[12:58] <Promethes> h22turbo: on precise (12.04) ?
[12:59] <dr_willis> isent wine 3bit? or am i confused again
[12:59] <g105b> I'm trying to write a script to do 3 things in order: start mysql server, run php script, execute a binary file. I can do these three things manually in separate terminal windows, but I want to do them in one automated script. I could use the & operator, but then how will I know when any of them have closed?
[12:59] <dr_willis> 32bit. ;)
[13:00] <borax12> @g10b-closed as in
[13:00] <borax12> ?
[13:00] <dr_willis> g105b:  make sub scripts for esch one that prints a m essags
[13:00] <MonkeyDust> g105b  better ask in #bash
[13:00] <g105b> ok thanks
[13:01] <punisher_> h22turbo: U serious?
[13:04] <griffrez> Hello!
[13:04] <griffrez> I'd like to know what is the best way to install the Cinnamon Desktop Environment on Ubuntu.
[13:06] <niklas> hello, i need some help because i deleted the tmp folder and now the system doesnt work anymore
[13:07] <MonkeyDust> griffrez  there are plenty how to's, here's one http://ubuntublog.org/cinnamon-desktop.htm
[13:07] <dr_willis> check the cinnamon homepage griffrez  its not by ubuntu so not really supported here
[13:08] <dr_willis> griffrez:  'best' would be a ppa that allows for easy removaL of it
[13:08] <DX099> griffrez, there's a ppa. You could check linux mint irc.
[13:08] <punisher_> how can i check my disks manually for errors? especially the home partition
[13:08] <griffrez> Oh
[13:08] <punisher_> ....
[13:08] <dr_willis> punisher_:  live cd and fsck command
[13:08] <griffrez> MonkeyDust, dr_willis, DX099: Thanks for your help. :)
[13:09] <punisher_> dr_willis: would u please tell me more about the fsck command? i'm not familiar with the command....thnx
[13:09] <niklas> hi all
[13:09] <niklas> i need some help because i deleted the tmp folder and now the system doesnt work anymore
[13:10] <gordonjcp> niklas: hah
[13:10] <gordonjcp> niklas: and have you learned an important lesson from that?
[13:11] <geirha> niklas: mkdir -m 1777 /tmp
[13:11] <niklas> gordonjcp, i think so...was not my brightest moment...but still would like to repair it..
[13:11] <gordonjcp> niklas: try something like "sudo mkdir /tmp && sudo chmod 1777 /tmp && sudo chown root.root /tmp"
[13:12] <gordonjcp> niklas: that's off the top of my head; I could be wrong but it shouldn't make anything *worse*...
[13:12] <usr13> phenom: In a terminal type  man fsck  and hit enter.
[13:12] <usr13> punisher_: In a terminal type  man fsck  and hit enter.
[13:13] <usr13> phenom: Sorry, wrong nic
[13:13] <geirha> punisher_: There's not much to it.  fsck /dev/sda1  checks the filesystem on /dev/sda1 (may also fix it if there's errors)
[13:14] <usr13> geirha: punisher_  fsck -y /dev/sda1
[13:14] <usr13> to fix....
[13:15] <usr13> ... by itself, fsck just checks
[13:15] <geirha> well, it'll ask you what to do if it finds errors
[13:15] <punisher_> usr13: when i typed fsck /dev/sda1 this error appeared: fsck.ext2: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda1 You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root
[13:16] <usr13> punisher_: Are you running the livecd?
[13:16] <punisher_> no...i;m in ubuntu
[13:16] <geirha> punisher_: You need read and write permission to the device, so typically one runs fsck as root.  sudo fsck /dev/sda1
[13:16] <usr13> punisher_: As you probably have already noticed, it will require admin priviledges
[13:16] <geirha> punisher_: But DO NOT run it on a filesystem that is mounted
[13:16] <usr13> phenom: Do *not* run fsck on a mounted partition.
[13:17] <usr13> punisher_: Do *not* run fsck on a mounted partition.
[13:17] <usr13> punisher_: Are you running the liveCD? If not, wait until you are.
[13:18] <punisher_> yes usr13 you're right...it was mounted but when i unmounted it and ran it again this error appeared: fsck.ext2: Permission denied while trying to open /dev/sda1 You must have r/w access to the filesystem or be root
[13:18] <usr13> punisher_: sudo
[13:18] <lenneth> hello everyone
[13:18] <BluesKaj> punisher_, use sudo
[13:18] <punisher_> aha....I have to boot with live cd
[13:18] <punisher_> i did but the result was that i've mentioned
[13:18] <usr13> punisher_: If the partition is unmounted you do not need the CD.
[13:20] <punisher_> usr13: look there are lots of strage things going on that maybe interconnected:
[13:20] <usr13> punisher_: Such as......?
[13:20] <punisher_> 1) my vuze cannot save the data on the partition it was downloading on...despite the fact that it's not full
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> punisher_: is the partition NTFS based?
[13:21] <punisher_> 2) when i entered my ubuntu this bizzare error appeared on my screen asking me to enter the keyring which was the first time
[13:21] <punisher_> yes ActionParsnip it is
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> punisher_: then fsck is of no value to you
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> punisher_: is the partition mounted writable?
[13:21] <zykotick9> ActionParsnip: nice crystal ball ;)
[13:22] <punisher_> 3) the last one is this error for disk errors
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> zykotick9: its common
[13:22] <punisher_> yes ActionParsnip it was, before the electricity went off....
[13:22] <punisher_> how can i check that?
[13:22] <usr13> punisher_: Use MS Windows
[13:22] <ActionParsnip> punisher_: when did you lst chkdsk the ntfs partition in windows?
[13:23] <punisher_> Yesterday
[13:23] <usr13> punisher_: Is this a dual boot system?
[13:23] <ActionParsnip> punisher_: can you run:   mount    and give the line that references the NTFS partition you are saving to
[13:24] <punisher_> i have two hard disks and Disk Utility says that one of my disks has a few bad sectors
[13:24] <punisher_> yes my system is a dual boot one
[13:24] <usr13> punisher_: Ok, then, try booting to MS Windows and it will check/repair it's filesystem.
[13:24] <usr13> or attempt to....
[13:24] <punisher_> ActionParsnip would u be clear about the thing i have to do? because i'm not familiar with this...
[13:25] <punisher_> thanx usr13
[13:25] <ActionParsnip> punisher_: in a terminal, run:  mount    one line will identify the NTFS partition. What is the line?
[13:26] <punisher_> ActionParsnip i ran it and this appeared:
[13:26] <punisher_> No command 'mout' found, did you mean:  Command 'lout' from package 'lout' (universe)  Command 'gout' from package 'scotch' (universe)  Command 'mount' from package 'mount' (main)  Command 'mount' from package 'loop-aes-utils' (universe)  Command 'most' from package 'most' (universe) mout: command not found
[13:27] <usr13> punisher_: If you think there could be a hardware problem with the HD, damaged HD (due to power surge) see:  http://www.hdsentinel.com/hard_disk_sentinel_linux.php
[13:27] <usr13> punisher_: mount not mout
[13:27] <abdeleebraheem> hello guys..i have a problem, my launcher and panel icons just disappeared in ubuntu 12.04
[13:27] <abdeleebraheem> what do i do pls i need help
[13:28] <usr13> abdeleebraheem: Unity?
[13:28] <fidel> !details | abdeleebraheem
[13:28] <punisher_> my bad, sorry
[13:28] <punisher_> this is what appeared
[13:28] <auronandace> punisher_: use a pastebin
[13:29] <abdeleebraheem> I am running ubuntu 12.04, after installing it when i start the OS, I can't find the launcher icons
[13:29] <abdeleebraheem> usr13 yes unity how do i go about it
[13:29] <usr13> abdeleebraheem: unity --reset   or  unity --reset-icons
[13:30] <usr13> abdeleebraheem: running unity --reset will reset all of the launcher options
[13:30] <punisher_> how can i use it auronandace
[13:30] <punisher_> ?
[13:30] <qos> is there a special channel to ask kernel related questions?
[13:30] <auronandace> !paste | punisher_
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> qos: #kernel or #linux
[13:30] <abdeleebraheem> usr13 I can't even lunch my terminal
[13:30] <klj613> how do i grep (i get x amount of results) but i also want the first line?
[13:30] <ActionParsnip> abdeleebraheem: press CTRL+ALT+T
[13:30] <usr13> abdeleebraheem: Alt-t
[13:31] <abdeleebraheem> will do that and get back to you, thanks guys
[13:31] <usr13> abdeleebraheem: Ctrl-Alt-t  (I was wrong.)  (Thank you ActionParsnip for correction.)
[13:31] <punisher_> usr13 this is the error appeared:
[13:31] <punisher_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1198648/
[13:33] <usr13> punisher_: Is that an error message? (Or is it the output of the command  mount?  )
[13:33] <auronandace> punisher_: that isn't an error, thats the output of the command mount
[13:35] <usr13> punisher_: As auronandace points out, the text you pasted indicates what your system has mounted at this time.
[13:35] <Rajvi> Hello all
[13:35] <Rajvi> Greetings!!
[13:35] <usr13> Rajvi: Yes?
[13:37] <usr13> puppy_parade: Look at /etc/fstab and you'll see why/how these filesystems are mounted
[13:38] <usr13> puppy_parade: Sorry.  I guess punisher left us.
[13:43] <Dark-chc> hello
[13:44] <Dark-chc> i'm curious about 12.04, and i want to know if unity is better in 12.04
[13:44] <fidel> Dark-chc: then test 12.04 i.e. using a live cd or a vm
[13:44] <fidel> better is heavily user-specific ;)
[13:45] <gordonjcp> Dark-chc: it's an incremental process
[13:45] <usr13> Dark-chc: 12.04.1 is out so....
[13:45] <gordonjcp> Dark-chc: 12.10 is nice
[13:45] <mobius420> greetings #ubuntu
[13:46] <Dark-chc> gordonjcp: i'm so happy with 11.10 should i try 12.04?
[13:46] <usr13> Dark-chc: "is it better" or "will it get better" well, yes, and yes, but better is subjective so...
[13:46] <mobius420> I am thoroughly stuck trying to downgrade the bios on my ell laptop
[13:46] <mobius420> dell*
[13:46] <mobius420> can someone tell me how to extract an hdr file easily possibly online?
[13:46] <usr13> Dark-chc: If you are happy with 11.10, stay ....
[13:46] <gordonjcp> I must admit, I find all this "make it look like Gnome 2" stuff kind of cute
[13:46] <chicognu> in my opinion unity is not better and cant get better due to the concepts it is build
[13:46] <chicognu> resuming: i hate unity so much
[13:47] <gordonjcp> do you remember when Windows 95 came out, and we all discovered you could run progman.exe and make it look like Windows 3.1?
[13:47] <usr13> Dark-chc: But LTS is a good place to be, (IMHO).
[13:47] <gordonjcp> usr13: good point
[13:47] <mobius420> my computer has a bios virus and the only way I can clean it is to kill the bios ....since I have the latest bios version it has been very difficult to do
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> Dark-chc: it runs well here
[13:47] <gordonjcp> chicognu: each to their own
[13:47] <usr13> mobius420: How did you get a bios virus?
[13:47] <mobius420> all of the dell utilities are designed to run from windows and even then if you already have the latest version installed it wont let you downgrade
[13:48] <mobius420> usr13,   my former  roommate decided to be a bad person
[13:48] <mobius420> I know for a fact thats what it is....  my bios jumped from version 10 to version 8  on its own
[13:48] <mobius420> and then i start getting backdoored constantly
[13:49] <mobius420> I really need help getting an hdr file extracted from a particular dell bios utility
[13:49] <gordonjcp> mobius420: this is probably not the best place for it
[13:49] <usr13> mobius420: YOu will more-than-likely need to use a boot CD  to flash the bios
[13:50] <usr13> mobius420: or USB...
[13:51] <usr13> mobius420: There are utilities out there.  But... it's not within the scope of Ubuntu/support.
[13:51] <borax12> dunno if this is relevant in this channel but what does it take to contribute to a desktop environment (programmatically )
[13:51] <borax12> ?
[13:51] <borax12> ie code wise
[13:52] <ssta> borax12: generally: write code, submit it, wait and see if it's liked/included
[13:52] <MonkeyDust> borax12  http://www.ubuntu.com/community/get-involved
[13:52] <usr13> borax12: You contact the project leader
[13:52] <gordonjcp> yeah, basically
[13:52] <chicognu> mobius420, i don't know if you you realy have a bios virus ... but is u are infected and can't upgrade you bios version cuz it is already up to date try find some one with a "bios burning" ... do you know what chip you computer use as bios ?
[13:52] <gordonjcp> borax12: find a bug, submit a fix
[13:52] <gordonjcp> borax12: keep going
[13:52] <gordonjcp> borax12: congratulations, you're a dev
[13:52] <Dark-chc> ActionParsnip: you think i should do it?
[13:53] <borax12> @gordon-hehe ,nothing like that
[13:53] <borax12> :)
[13:53] <borax12> thanks anyways
[13:53] <gordonjcp> borax12: what kind of thing do you want to contribute to?
[13:53] <borax12> i was already aware about ubuntu contribution
[13:53] <borax12> but more specifically -the unity project
[13:54] <borax12> interests me
[13:54] <borax12> i want to put to use both my design skills and a little bit of whatever coding skills i have
[13:54] <MonkeyDust> borax12  did you get the link I showed you?
[13:54] <borax12> yeah
[13:55] <borax12> i did @monkeydusy,i was aware of that already
[13:55] <borax12> but thanks anyways
[13:55] <borax12> btw guys ,i am working on a icon set now ,should be out in about a weeks time
[13:56] <borax12> its a very nice icon set with special focus on design aesthetics
[13:56] <borax12> minimal but se*y
[13:56] <Sokel> Sounds disgusting.
[13:56] <Pici> !enter
[13:56] <usr13> borax12: gordonjcp is correct.  For instance, if you are interested in xfce, see:  https://bugzilla.xfce.org/
[13:58] <borax12> usr13, thanks ,but unity(gnome ) > xfce
[13:58] <borax12> Sokel, whats disgusting btw ?
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> borax12: stick it on gnome-look.org :)
[14:01] <borax12> ActionParsnip,-yeah surely
[14:01] <makezan> hey guys if you were to setup a syslog server, what service would you use, and why?
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> makezan: http://www.techiecorner.com/1479/how-to-setup-syslog-server-in-ubuntu/
[14:02] <khamer> For some reason, calling amixer set Master toggle twice is still leaving my audio muted, any thoughts?
[14:03] <borax12> makezan, -debian syslog server is what is used in our institution
[14:03] <borax12> i dunno of alternatives though
[14:04] <Jessicatz> something keeps adding a bookmark for x-nautilus-desktop:/// to nautilus file manager
[14:05] <Jessicatz> how do I find out what it is? or how do I stop it?
[14:06] <makezan> ActionParsnip borax12 thx roger that
[14:17] <makezan> okay after some reading I also see sysklogd menitioned a lot, vs rsyslog, anyone knows the major difference between the tow?
[14:17] <makezan> *two
[14:25] <ahuyarok> hello people!
[14:25] <danielsp> Hello :)
[14:30] <Hbb__> BONJOUR
[14:31] <Hbb__> comment je peux changer de serveur svp ?
[14:31] <DJones> !fr | Hbb__
[14:31] <MonkeyDust> !fr
[14:31] <Hbb__> thx Djones
[14:32] <RealKillaz> Gents, I have an LVM , but my box is nott activating it on boot...
[14:33] <RealKillaz> I need to activate it everytime manually with vgchange -ay
[14:33] <RealKillaz> What is the option to add this in the bootsequence init.d so that i load/activate automatically?
[14:34] <gnotej> register good72 gnotej@gmail.com
[14:35] <MonkeyDust> gnotej  be more careful, do not do that in an active channel
[14:36] <DasEi> makezan: rsyslog is the follower of sysklogd and has advanced features, but sysklogd is still fine
[14:36] <SAngeli> Hi, I need an inexpensive RAID controller and do not know if this one (ADAPTEC
[14:36] <SAngeli> RAID 1220SA SINGLE) si compatible or not with latest version of ubuntu server x64
[14:37] <DasEi> makezan: http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/intrepid/en/man8/rsyslogd.8.html
[14:37] <SAngeli> I went to ubuntu hcl but all I find for Adaptec is this: Adaptec AAC-RAID
[14:37] <DasEi> !hcl |SAngeli:
[14:38] <ActionParsnip> RealKillaz: add it above the 'exit 0' line in /etc/rc.local   I suggest you add an ampersand to it so that it backgrounds
[14:38] <compdoc> SAngeli, I cant say if that partiticular raid card is supported, but some adaptec cards are not supported well at all. I would suggest a used 3ware raid card from ebay
[14:38] <DasEi> SAngeli: there also is ##hardware to ask such questions, but most adaptecs I know are fine with linux
[14:38] <SAngeli> Companion, thank you
[14:38] <SAngeli> DasEi, ok. will try
[14:39] <Companion> SAngeli, your welcum
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> SAngeli: or contact the manufacturers :)
[14:39] <compdoc> lol
[14:39] <gnotej> register good72
[14:39] <wN> RealKillaz: im not sure if ubuntu has the _netdev mount option, but if it does adding it to fstab should fix it
[14:39] <MonkeyDust> gnotej  do that in a different screen, not in the channel
[14:39] <b26> on 12.04, anyone running dovecot 2.x and having issues trying to convert a v1 config? i tried running doveconf -n -c with the v1 and output to a new file, but only output to the new file is: # 2.0.19: dovecot-1.conf
[14:39] <auronandace> !register | gnotej
[14:39] <SAngeli> no, I need a shortcut as I do not have so much money to spend. So, I need to know if someone know of a cheat RAID controller (for Raid-1) for two HD Sata-II
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> SAngeli: look through amazon, people will say if it worked in ubuntu etc
[14:40] <SAngeli> great, I will
[14:40] <SAngeli> ActionParsnip, thanks
[14:41] <DasEi> SAngeli: why, if on budget using a fake-raid at all ? just go with mdadm, unless high-performance is needed
[14:41] <DasEi> !info mdadm
[14:42] <gnotej> identify good72
[14:42] <b26> heh
[14:42] <b26> i'd change your password gnotej
[14:42] <DasEi> SAngeli: pm you ?
[14:42] <SAngeli> DasEi, because I tried to install it and got problems. One sec
[14:43] <makezan> this weird and upsetting, every OS I could come up will get an IP from my DHCP server, but ubuntu. at setup it stalls, even when I enter the ip manually
[14:43] <SAngeli> DasEi, I asked help in the IT forum and did not get any solution
[14:43] <Charlie1979> hi
[14:44] <ActionParsnip> SAngeli: that file is dead handy, it runs as root too so you may need to use su if you want to run a command as another user etc
[14:44] <SAngeli> DasEi, I already have problems with Samba and am already tired of this. So, I wa thinking to remove this problem and rely on a raid controller to preserve my data
[14:44] <DasEi> SAngeli: pm you ? as this is not a support question for ubuntu I'd like tot take it out the channel
[14:45] <tech_> hi
[14:45] <makezan> centos will pick an ip, windows 7 will pick an IP, BSD will pick an IP, on the same box, same cable same port, but ubuntu will tell me network cannot be configured
[14:45] <alpre> impossibu
[14:45] <DasEi> makezan: interfaces - file configured for dhcp ?
[14:46] <alpre> makezan: you got more than one interface?
[14:46] <makezan> DasEi I'm using the install cd.
[14:46] <SAngeli> DasEi, what does it mean "pm you ?" I do not understand
[14:46] <makezan> alpre two interfaces. and I know for a fact its eth0, because i've used it previously
[14:46] <DasEi> makezan: you are currently installing and autoconfig of network doesn't do ?
[14:46] <DasEi> !pm | SAngeli
[14:46] <TheLordOfTime> SAngeli:  it means private message.
[14:46] <TheLordOfTime> SAngeli:  a direct message between you and DasEi in a separate window
[14:46] <SAngeli> I see. sorry
[14:47] <makezan> DasEi correct autoconfig doesn't work. manual stalls install
[14:47] <alpre> makezan: so did you try the other one too?
[14:47] <DasEi> I'll just do, SAngeli, watch your chat tabs..
[14:47] <makezan> alpre tried both ya. and the logs through alt f4 don't really give me much
[14:47] <SAngeli> ok
[14:47] <DasEi> makezan: could be a corrupt installer, did you do both, md5-check on the isofile and the cd's self-test ?
[14:48] <makezan> DasEi hmm never thought of that, but I do have 2 different cds i'm using
[14:49] <rigo> top command shows that xbmc.bin uses 21% cpu constant. i read somewhere that i should use older nvidia driver. is that right?
[14:50] <makezan> DasEi will change mirror as well, maybe that's why, i'm always using umdcp mirror
[14:50] <DasEi> makezan: leat reboot cd and check media for defects
[14:50] <rigo> in another thread i read that i should turn the vsync off. (i would like this cause its faster and easyer.. :))
[14:51] <DasEi> makezan: torrent the iso down, or easier, pick the iso and check it , most corruptions are bad burns (is why, amongst from saving a disk, I prefer usb-install)
[14:51] <DasEi> !md5sum
[14:51] <makezan> DasEi youu read my mind. lol just pulled out a usb.
[14:51] <makezan> ahhaha
[14:53] <DasEi> :))
[14:53] <cortexA9> hello
[14:54] <DasEi> makezan: make sure iso is fine, use pgarted to format thumbd. to fat, go unetbootin
[14:54] <PeterGriffin> MySQL question: Hallo. Is it possible to load somehow the files with .frm .MYD and .MYI formats and export a .sql file?
[14:56] <cortexA9> this is kubuntu support too ?
[14:56] <gnotej> identify good72
[14:56] <makezan> 12.04  DasEi the hash do not match
[14:56] <makezan> but that must also be because i'm using 12.04.1 not 12.04
[14:56] <BluesKaj> cortexA9, ask in #kubuntu
[14:57] <gnotej> register good72
[14:57] <DasEi> makezan: see, there you go, d/l again via torrent (as this auto-checks)re-hash, go usb
[14:57] <DasEi> gnotej: #freenode is a good place to questions about irc usage
[14:57] <gnotej> identify good72
[14:57] <makezan> I just downloaded via torrent and the hash matches the old browser download
[14:58] <makezan> a8c667e871f48f3a662f3fbf1c3ddb17
[14:58] <Pici> gnotej: please stop, you're announcing your password to the entire channel.  If you can't figure out how to register, ask in #freenode
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> makezan: thats the server install
[15:00] <makezan> ActionParsnip yup
[15:00] <makezan> amd64 bit
[15:00] <ActionParsnip> makezan: you want a CLI inteface to Ubuntu?
[15:01] <makezan> ActionParsnip could have asked ubuntu-server, but ubuntu users more responsive and less elitist lol
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> makezan: just making sure you knew the deal :)
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> makezan: here's how I do it: https://duckduckgo.com/?q=a8c667e871f48f3a662f3fbf1c3ddb17   :D
[15:01] <dr_willis> does the server iso still have issues when put on a live usb?
[15:01] <makezan> ActionParsnip ahaha, yeah..  for this appliance I need server
[15:02] <makezan> ActionParsnip neat!
[15:02] <Eagleman> dr_willis last time i installed 12.04 i did not had issue's
[15:03] <kreature> can anyone tell me why my dhcp is acting this way? http://pastebin.com/VMuDa8Pn
[15:03] <dr_willis> ok. 11.04 had issues i recall with the server iso not seeing the usb properly
[15:03] <kreature> why is the ip address abandoned?
[15:03] <scotty^> does anyone know how to add the universe and multiverse software repositories from the command line?
[15:03] <txomon|nqas> scotty^, look at vim /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:03] <scotty^> (I'm currently typing this in a terminal running ircii
[15:04] <scotty^> )
[15:04] <dr_willis> just edit sources.list and uncomment them
[15:04] <mz|`> scotty^: example : deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-backports main restricted universe multivers
[15:04] <mz|`> +e
[15:06] <scotty^> Thanks all.  I had found that file but was unsure what to add.  I didn't realise it was so simple.
[15:06] <DasEi> scotty^: you can add the needed line like above example also by echo :sudo  echo'deb http://fr.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-backports main restricted universe multiverse' >> /etc/apt/sources.list      , just make sure to use 2 '>>' , as one will not append, but overwrite the file
[15:07] <makezan> does someone know why it runs dhcpdiscover on 255.255.255.255
[15:07] <dr_willis> isent that the broadcast address ?
[15:08] <scotty^> Thanks DasEi
[15:08] <cylonmath> is there a computer vision channel in freenode?
[15:08] <DasEi> scotty^: FYI http://repogen.simplylinux.ch/   , and synaptic has the ability to ping and find fastest mirror four your location
[15:08] <DasEi> for*
[15:08] <dr_willis> 4
[15:08] <dr_willis> ;)
[15:09] <Pici> !alis | cylonmath
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> makezan: thats broadcast to all nodes for a DHCP server...
[15:09] <cylonmath> thats cool !
[15:10] <TomM2> There's nothing in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[15:10] <dr_willis> TomM2:  you using grub1 or 2?
[15:10] <alpre> TomM2: that was grub1 now is grub2
[15:10] <TomM2> Latest version.
[15:10] <TomM2> I'm on ubuntu 11.10
[15:11] <dr_willis> thats grub2...
[15:11] <dr_willis> !grub
[15:11] <cortexA9> when windows 8 exit, it is possible to delete and install ubuntu ?
[15:11] <alpre> TomM2: /etc/default/grub
[15:11] <TomM2> Thanks.
[15:11] <dr_willis> cortexA9:  should be anle to.
[15:11] <dr_willis> able
[15:11] <makezan> ActionParsnip okay.
[15:12] <TomM2> I don't think I'm looking for that.
[15:12] <DasEi> cortexA9: I don't understand that question, you can always delete one os and change to another, as you can dualboot
[15:12] <dr_willis> TomM2:  state the real question. ;)
[15:12] <TomM2> Let me explain, I want it to say "Mocha" when my system boots.
[15:12] <TomM2> In grub it would be "e" right?
[15:12] <dr_willis> say it where?
[15:12] <cortexA9> DasEi no.
[15:12] <cortexA9> windows 8 have a protection.
[15:13] <TomM2> But I need to do it while logged in.
[15:13] <dr_willis> cortexA9:  thaqts still up in the air.
[15:13] <makezan> ActionParsnip my problem is while installing ubuntu server it just hangs and dhcp config don't work? I tried BSD linux, Fedora, Centos and Win7 on that same box, cable and ethernet port and they all worked. I suspected hash, but it was obviously not it, I also suspected disk errors, and that came with no errors too. I'm just wondering what could be the issue
[15:13] <dr_willis> TomM2:  clarify what you mean.
[15:14] <DasEi> TomM2: so you want an espeak, say in /etc/rc.local, for instance or in a cronjob, or even in a upstart-event
[15:14] <TomM2> dr_willis, Well I ran "figlet Mocha" in terminal and I want the output to display on boot.
[15:14] <YokoBR> hey guys, can someone help me configuring /etc/ldap.conf
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> makezan: tried the boot option: nomodeset
[15:14] <dr_willis> TomM2:  as part of your MOTD? on login?
[15:15] <TomM2> dr_willis, MOTD.
[15:15] <makezan> ActionParsnip lemme look into how to do that.
[15:15] <TomM2> Like on boot.
[15:15] <dr_willis> TomM2:  on boot is very different then in the motd
[15:15] <dr_willis> !motd
[15:16] <dr_willis> there are motd config files you can add your own info to
[15:16] <andrealto98> i'm recording a video of ubuntu servers
[15:16] <TomM2> Well when I did "e" on one of my kernels I saw you could add your own lines of text to it such as "echo" I have tested it and I confirm it working.
[15:17] <TomM2> Yet where is the data for the kernel stored?
[15:17] <dr_willis> TomM2:  thats not the same as motd..
[15:17] <TomM2> dr_willis, Well where is it stored anyway?
[15:17] <dr_willis> kernels and stuff are in /boot/
[15:17] <DasEi> TomM2: /boot
[15:18] <TomM2> I know.
[15:18] <TomM2> But how do you edit the kernel while logged in.
[15:18] <DasEi> TomM2: you won't else would have to rebuild init.rd
[15:18] <dr_willis> you edit the grub configs in /etc/grub.d/ or /etc/default/grub
[15:18] <dr_willis> then rerun update-grub
[15:18] <TomM2> If you have ever held shift on boot and then pressed "e" you should understand.
[15:19] <dr_willis> TomM2:  yes.. we know and are telling you...
[15:19] <DasEi> TomM2: it's clear, mind DrWillis
[15:19] <dr_willis> you do NOT edit grub.cfg directly
[15:19] <TomM2> Okay.
[15:19] <dr_willis> read the grub2 wiki pages the bot has
[15:20] <dr_willis> !grub2
[15:20] <ser1> hi
[15:20] <dr_willis> hello
[15:21] <m000gle> Does anyone know if there is a way to add extra options to the wallpaper drop-down menu, in Appearance? ... I hope to organize my wallpapers by adding options beyond the defaults, "Wallpapers", "Pictures Folder" and "Colors & Gradients".
[15:21] <DasEi> m000gle: sure, just put files of same type in that folder, and take a look on gnome.org
[15:22] <DasEi> ah, the drop-down menu, sorry, I missread that
[15:22] <dr_willis> ;)
[15:22] <makezan> I'm starting to think ubuntu server doesn't like dhcp relay.  I did the same install on another box and it fails in the same exact fashion
[15:23] <dr_willis> we need moar better wallpaper managers like android has. ;)
[15:23] <DasEi> makezan: seldom, maybe an unrecognised NIC ?
[15:23] <TorpedoSkyline> Hey everyone, I'm getting this strange clicking sound out of my earbuds while not playing music on my MacBook Pro 5,5. It wasn't doing this yesterday. Any thoughts?
[15:23] <DasEi> makezan: you us is ready I assume ?
[15:23] <DasEi> usb*
[15:24] <MistakenElf> Can anyone help me out with a programming project
[15:24] <dr_willis> doing your homework?
[15:24] <DasEi> MistakenElf: can try to ask in #bash
[15:25] <MistakenElf> yeah im trying to do homework and gettting no where
[15:25] <m000gle> DasEi:  Yeah, the drop-down menu is key.  I have several dozen wallpapers in my Pictures folder, making it inconvenient to use.  It would be nice to have several groups in the drop-down menu.  For example: "Windows Wallpapers", "OSX Wallpapers", "Natty Wallpapers", "Oneiric Wallpapers", "Precise Wallpapers" etc
[15:25] <DasEi> MistakenElf: generic questions ##linux, programming (c++) #bash or #phython or whatever you are using
[15:26] <dr_willis> several dozen? how cute and tiny.. last i looked my collection was like 8 gb..
[15:26] <OerHeks> isn't there a #homework channel on #freenode ?
[15:26] <MistakenElf> Im not sure
[15:26] <MistakenElf> I will try the #linux
[15:27] <DasEi> m000gle: wait for another helper, I'm overasked there to give more than generic hints (also lubuntu here, unity-refugee)
[15:27] <m000gle> dr_willis:  An underestimate, maybe =P  The once you have too many, though, Appearance becomes a bit unwieldy as a manager.  Plus, loading the wallpapers each time can take a while.
[15:28] <dr_willis> m000gle:  i just keep my wapllpapers dir sorted and right click to chage it. or use some other wallpaper tools
[15:28] <m000gle> DasEi:  Cool!  Thanks for you help :)  ...  I'm actually a Unity refugee, running a highly customized Zukitwo, Gnome-Shell setup
[15:29] <hal> MonkeyDust: just to report back on my question earlier, about browsing two filesystems simulataneously, I ended up using tmux. It's not a GUI, but at least it achieves the desired result
[15:29] <dr_willis> i got wallpapers collected from my amiga days. ;)
[15:29] <OerHeks> m000gle, rename the wallpapers, like Win7flower.png Win8flower.png and so on
[15:29] <hal> MonkeyDust: if you see NewWorld around later, please pass it on for me
[15:29] <m000gle> dr_willis:  What are some wallpaper tools you recommend? It may not solve my exact problem, but could be useful.
[15:30] <makezan> DasEi ? I misunderstood question
[15:30] <makezan> DasEi i tried 11.10 doesn't work either
[15:30] <dr_willis> m000gle:  i just normally use some randomizer i found on webupd8 or omgubuntu,  havent even messed with them  lately.
[15:31] <dr_willis> i just sort the folders out by hand then set the randomixer to one dir i want for a while.
[15:31] <m000gle> OerHeks:  Thanks.  I may do that as a band-aid solution.  Sorting it by drop-down menu has the advantage of only having to load one category at a time.  Once you have dozens of wallpapers, it can take quite a while to load them each time you open Appearance.
[15:32] <Nabstylez> Is there any way to display a message through terminal (ssh) -> GUI ?
[15:32] <dr_willis> !info zenity
[15:33] <Nabstylez> The zenity won't work for me -.- Just tried it and it fails.. :p
[15:33] <dr_willis> and theres ways to make the osd-notify do it also
[15:33] <dr_willis> details  would help...
[15:33] <dr_willis> you do have security features to overcome... you cant just pop porn errr.. programs onto anyones desktop
[15:34] <Nabstylez> The command I run is: zenity --info --text="My message"
[15:34] <Nabstylez> The error is: ** (zenity:10484): WARNING **: Kommandoraden "dbus-launch --autolaunch=45c39c9c5286ddc6cf14ece50000000a --binary-syntax --close-stderr" avslutades med icke-noll-status 1: Autolaunch error: X11 initialization failed.\n
[15:34] <dr_willis> is someone logged into x?
[15:34] <Nabstylez> This is a fresh install on original Ubuntu 12.04 Desktop.
[15:34] <Nabstylez> Yes, one local user.
[15:35] <Nabstylez> And me ofc, via ssh.
[15:35] <dr_willis> have them try the same command locally.
[15:35] <dr_willis> are you sshed in as the same user?
[15:35] <jorenl_> Hi all, sorry to drop in and bother you. But, is there a way to pipe a terminal program's output to the system keyboard input? (e.g.; ./myprog > keyboard)
[15:36] <Nabstylez> I'll try, sec :)
[15:36] <DasEi> Nabstylez: did you login ssh with x enabled, server also configured to allow it ? dbus running ?
[15:37] <wildwind> jorenl_: ...and where should it go from keyboard?
[15:37] <jorenl_> wildwind: I have to admit I'm not entirely sure yet. I'm guessing I'll go with some form field in a browser.
[15:37] <Nabstylez> Holy crap, that's kind of advanced for me, you would'nt happen to have info links so I can read up on it?
[15:38] <dr_willis> !ssh | Nabstylez
[15:38] <dr_willis> Nabstylez:  you want to chat with whos ever on the desktop , or what exactly?
[15:39] <dr_willis> or just mess with their head? ;)
[15:39] <DasEi> /etc/ssh/sshd_config  , Nabstylez
[15:39] <killer> how do i password protect a folder ?
[15:39] <DasEi> ^ on the server side, pretty at the bottom, allow X-forwarding, then (client-side) ssh -X user@ip
[15:39] <dr_willis> !encrypt
[15:40] <DasEi> killer: just protect from other users as root or encrypt it ?
[15:40] <wildwind> jorenl_: curl can submit web forms with any data
[15:41] <jorenl_> wildwind: If you're curious, I'm looking into my options of using a webcam with zbarcam as a barcode reader
[15:41] <jorenl_> it'd be nice if I could use a visual GUI with it for whoever would have to use it in the future :P
[15:41] <danielyna75> ciaooo
[15:41] <danielyna75> !list
[15:42] <Nabstylez> When the command (zenity --info --text="Test") is fired off locally in terminal, there's "Command not found"
[15:43] <GunClive> hi. i got no option to save sessions in gnome 2 or gnome 3 fallback. why? thanks.
[15:44] <Nabstylez> The /etc/ssh/sshd_config is forwarded in x-param. aswell :p
[15:44] <DasEi> Nabstylez: heh, install figlet, nor ?
[15:44] <DasEi> err, zenity
[15:46] <livingdaylight> does ubuntu still do #ubuntu-class?
[15:46] <bazhang> livingdaylight, #ubuntu-classroom , yes
[15:46] <livingdaylight> cool
[15:46] <livingdaylight> thanks bazhang
[15:46] <delinquentme> can anyone make a recommendation for a high quality password manager?
[15:47] <delinquentme> for ubuntu **
[15:47] <chris|> delinquentme, gnome-keyring, comes preinstalled
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> delinquentme: gnome-keyring is installed by default
[15:48] <fre> can i use your help in smth
[15:48] <fre> i've got my hands full of problems
[15:48] <Nabstylez> DasEi: Oh yea, it's installed. :)
[15:49] <jorenl_> Any help on directing ZBar output (or any terminal output for that matter) to the keyboard input stream? :S
[15:49] <fre> I have been trying to move to Ubuntu for nearly 6 years now
[15:49] <fre> and one problem after another did a lot to me
[15:50] <wildwind> jorenl_: maybe Autokey can help, not shure
[15:50] <fre> did so much that prevented to be the happy user
[15:50] <fre> so when lately i installed the system 12.04
[15:50] <bazhang> fre is there an actual question?
[15:50] <fre> yeah
[15:50] <fre> i am coming to that
[15:50] <Uber-Geek> Hello all - trying to get vlc to run automatically at startup on ubuntu server 12.04. Any ideas as to how to do this?
[15:50] <fre> so afterh the installation
[15:50] <bazhang> fre on ONE line please
[15:50] <fre> i cannot actuall load the system itself
[15:51] <fre> i went through all the net to find the answer
[15:51] <bazhang> !enter | fre
[15:51] <fre> but i guess i am either not lucky
[15:51] <fre> sorry, i will take it into account
[15:52] <ActionParsnip> fre: what happens when you try and boot the installed OS?
[15:52] <fre> this file is not available for loading /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.mbr
[15:53] <bazhang> fre so this is a wubi install
[15:53] <kunji> Just going to bump the problem I'm having: my iptables rules keep being changed to include 2 lines that stop all traffic from the eth0 interface.  How can I find out what is making this change?  The change seems to occur within 24 hours of my removing these very two lines, and it is while the machine is running untouched (So it is not  a matter of rebooting and losing the rules, etc..).  I don't think it's relevant necessarily, but I'm Ubun
[15:54] <sefsfeesgfeasgfa> how can I download aircrack-ng?
[15:54] <fre> i went through all the stages  starting with loading the livecd then partitioning, and installing in iteself
[15:54] <sefsfeesgfeasgfa> I cant find it in Ubuntu Software Center
[15:54] <sefsfeesgfeasgfa> I use Ubuntu latest version
[15:54] <kunji> sefsfreesgfeasgfa: Probably:  sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng
[15:55] <dr_willis> sefsfeesgfeasgfa:  or look for a ppa
[15:55] <dr_willis> !find aircrack
[15:55] <DasEi> sefsfeesgfeasgfa: #backtrack right channel; go to their website and get it from there
[15:55] <kunji> Oh, huh, I thought aircrack would have been in the packages
[15:56] <dr_willis> aparently not
[15:56] <sefsfeesgfeasgfa> terminal says it has been replaced with iw:i386 iw ???
[15:56] <DasEi> kunji: btw, nick miss on sefs...^
[15:56] <dr_willis> !info iw
[15:56] <kunji> DasEi: ... I knew I should have copy pasted that one T.T
[15:57] <sefsfeesgfeasgfa> dr_willis can you tell me the results of your searches?  where is the aircrack-ng program?
[15:58] <DasEi> kunji: anyway, wrong place here, get it as ppa, from their homepage or ask in #backtrack, no penetration testing here
[15:58] <bazhang> it's #backtrack-linux
[15:58] <DasEi> :)
[15:58] <kunji> DasEi: I wasn't the one looking for it, I had just assumed it would be there because it's fairly popular.
[15:59] <abourget> abou theming Unity in 12.04, I made a change to a certain gtk-widgets.css file.. and I'd like that change to be applied to my desktop..
[16:00] <abourget> is there a command I can run to reload the theme ?
[16:01] <fre> so what should i do with the problem. It occurs right after Bios ends completing all the neccessary operations it performs and gives a wat for the OS loading process per se. That is when i should come across the choice of OSs. What i find is this error of  /ubuntu/winboot/wubildr.mbr which is not available and then after I press "enter" windows 8(which is currently the main system) is loading. What does it mean? Is it me that is so stupid or this
[16:01] <fre> is just that i am unlucky?
[16:01] <bazhang> fre, thats a wubi install
[16:02] <fre> so what
[16:02] <bazhang> fre, not a true dual-boot
[16:02] <albech> im having some strange mouse issues, where it loses click when i hold down the button.. it causes drag and drop to be very painful.. i have tried with different mouse types.
[16:02] <asker> amybody  hear me?
[16:02] <albech> this is u11.10 btw
[16:02] <bazhang> asker, whats the real question
[16:02] <reuf> hello
[16:02] <fre> hi
[16:02] <reuf> pdf wot word bash tool?
[16:03] <reuf> pdf to doc bash tool?
[16:03] <bazhang> reuf, convert?
[16:03] <reuf> yea
[16:03] <reuf> extract text
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> there is pdf2text
[16:03] <asker> i installed ubuntu studio and i installed gnome but when i control volume on keyboard  my volume seem in box bottom of screen lowresorution
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> !find pdf2text
[16:04] <fre> I guess i will undo partitioning and delete the system. That's sad. Thanx for all you efforts
[16:04] <kunji> reuf: those things usually don't work that great, depends in the text in the pdf was text though, or if the pdf resulted from say a scan.  There are ways to do both, I forget the names of the respective tools you would want though.
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> hmm
[16:04] <ActionParsnip> !find pdftotext
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> reuf: install poppler-utils  and you will get the pdftotext command
[16:05] <kunji> fre: You could try using an actual dual boot after that, using GRUB2 as your bootloader.
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> reuf: it will give a txt file of the pdf
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> reuf: of use google docs :)
[16:06] <reuf> i understand
[16:06] <reuf> thanks
[16:06] <reuf> thanks all
[16:06] <kunji> google docs does pdf to text?  Like for scanned pdfs, or just the ones that were originally text?
[16:06] <asker> i installed ubuntu studio and i installed gnome but when i control volume on keyboard  my volume seem in box bottom of screen lowresorution
[16:06] <asker> i installed ubuntu studio and i installed gnome but when i control volume on keyboard  my volume seem in box bottom of screen lowresorution
[16:07] <fre> kunji, you see i can only boot ubuntu through livecd
[16:07] <fre> that is the problem, and how am i supposed to use a dual boot
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> kunji: dunno, just saw it on a forum, try it is all I can say
[16:08] <kunji> fre:  So you installed it as a windows app (the Wubi installer?)
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> asker: not sure we can support ubuntu studio here try #ubuntustudio
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> lotuspsychje: its an official release
[16:08] <needhelp1> Hello all, im helping to pull some data for Ubuntu Beta releases and have a very short survey up on google documents found here. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFdSTUgzREoyeFZNSWRHSjlXMGYteGc6MQ    Anyone interested please take the survey and feel free to share the link. The results will be published in two weeks to the public domain.
[16:08] <sefsfeesgfeasgfa> this guide helped me install aircrack-ng: http://www.riyazwalikar.com/2010/12/installing-aircrack-ng-on-ubuntu-1204.html
[16:08] <fre> maybe there is an faq topic on that matter i will appreciate your giving the link
[16:08] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:can we? ok then
[16:09] <ssfdre38> hey would it be possible to set up a proxy server to block sites on my work's network
[16:10] <kunji> fre: for dual booting you would pick that option during the Ubuntu installation (the advanced partitioning stuff) and create an ext4 (or 3) partition for Ubuntu, and  a partition for the swap (ext2)
[16:10] <bazhang> !wubi | fre
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> !studio
[16:10] <lotuspsychje> ActionParsnip:cool
[16:11] <ssfdre38> !about
[16:11] <kunji> fre: If Windows currently takes the entire drive, then you may need to shrink that partition, which can take a while
[16:11] <joever> hey guys, i'm running 12.04, fonts are fuzzy and blurry in firefox and chrome. tried to play around with the hinting, anti-aliazing, change fonts, but no luck. can someone please help me?
[16:12] <GunClive> hi. i got no option to save sessions in gnome 2 or gnome 3 fallback. why? thanks.
[16:12] <lotuspsychje> joever:did you install adobe flash plugin?
[16:12] <fre> ubottu, thanx a lot but here is the thing: I created 3 logical partitions: one ext4 for / one ext4 for /home one swap???? for swap
[16:12] <ssfdre38> GunClive, cause you need to install Gnome or gnome-shell (gnome2 fallback)
[16:12] <joever> lotuspsychje, i install the generic flash stuff of ubuntu, should i ?
[16:13] <kunji> fre: oh, so you're not using the Wubi installer
[16:13] <fre> kunji, no i am not
[16:13] <lotuspsychje> joever:you can try installing ubuntu-restricted-extras
[16:13] <kunji> fre: can you paste the page with the directions you were following?
[16:13] <fre> I do eagerly want to just switch
[16:13] <joever> lotuspsychje: done that also
[16:13] <fre> well i guess you cannot read that page
[16:13] <fre> its the russian version of ubuntu.com
[16:14] <lotuspsychje> joever:or maybe switch from software centre version to web version flash?
[16:14] <GunClive> ssfdre38, so its a brand new feature only for gnome shell and not my ubuntu 11.04=?
[16:14] <joever> lotuspsychje: should i install adobe flash? but we're talking about fonts in general
[16:14] <ssfdre38> GunClive, gnome2 was removed in 10.10 and replaced with Unity so you will need to do that
[16:14] <fre> but if you are interested i can give you the link =)
[16:14] <kunji> fre: Ah, well then, do you know how far the install got?  Did it seem to complete successfully, or did the installer crash at some point?
[16:15] <fre> no it completed successfully
[16:15] <ssfdre38> GunClive, also i would say update as well so you can get the latest gnome-shell and drivers
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ssfdre38: it really wasnt
[16:15] <delinquentme> is there a quick start guide for gnome keyring?  like i just need to start stuffing passwords into it for things .. not SSH keys .. but just something that will securely store my passwords
[16:15] <fre> upon completion i was asked to take the media from cdrom
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> ssfdre38: Unity is a shell for Gnome, Unity runs on top of Gnome and simply replaces gnome-panel as the default shell
[16:15] <fre> i guess its an equivalent for successfull completion, am i right?
[16:16] <GunClive> ssfdre38, thanks. right now i am stuck with fallback, because my gfx card does not work wit gnome shell
[16:16] <ActionParsnip> ssfdre38: gnome was never 'removed'
[16:16] <kunji> fre: It's possible that you just didn't install GRUB2 (the bootloader) to the right place.  So it is still using the windows bootloader.  Yeah, sounds like it completed successfully.
[16:17] <kunji> www.www.googwwwwwwwwww.google.com
[16:17] <kunji> grub2
[16:17] <kunji> sorry about that spam... my browser wasn't taking focus for some reason...
[16:18] <fre> for now i will go with w8 because i have office2010 installed, but when i will be asked to pay for the final version i will choose ubuntu as my default os, that is i will install u instead of w8
[16:20] <dfcnvt> Hi, I recently had my terminal closed itself and some of the program that ran inside the terminal are still running. ie: chroot.... How do I get back in pts after the terminal is closed?
[16:20] <fre> though I was not given an explicit answer thanx for all your efforts
[16:20] <eamon> Hi, Windows user here. We have to install java for school. I don't want to get a rootkit. Is ubuntu or FreeBSD better for this?
[16:21] <GunClive> what payment method does the software center use?
[16:21] <bekks> dfcnvt: There is no way to do so. Except you had been starting "screen" first, and then issued chroot. In that case, you could use screen -DR
[16:21] <kunji> fre: Sorry, what was the original question?
[16:22] <wilee-nilee> eamon, Any OS is only as safe as the user, ubuntu starts out with a password needed for admin.
[16:22] <kunji> fre: oh, right, I think you should try reinstalling just GRUB2 to the drive, not just to the partition.
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> eamon: java is java, so anything affecting java will probably affect ubuntu too
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> eamon: there is a handy PPA to install oracle java if you need it but open java is installed by default afaik
[16:23] <eamon> Do you need to be admin to delete my docements on ubuntu
[16:23] <eamon> ?
[16:23] <bekks> No.
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> eamon: a user can delete it's own docs even if it cannot use sudo
[16:24] <ActionParsnip> eamon: same as in windows
[16:24] <kunji> fre: I would use this documentation to go about fixing Grub https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing   it's never failed me yet ^_^
[16:24] <adib> hey,
[16:25] <eamon> so malicious java could delete all my work
[16:25] <adib> does anyone know if i can use an existing partition with windows to use as virtual machine?
[16:25] <DasEi> dfcnvt: yes, take a look at screen, want a weblink ?
[16:25] <DasEi> !info screen
[16:26] <kunji> adib: That's a difficult question, the answer is maybe, but it's way more work than it's worth.
[16:26] <adib> well i only have 40gb on my ubuntu partition, i kinda need the space
[16:26] <DasEi> dfcnvt: https://www.rackaid.com/resources/linux-screen-tutorial-and-how-to/
[16:27] <eamon> wilee-nilee: But I have to use java I dont have a choice. How do I use it so it can't ielete my stuff?
[16:27] <j98jeep> I've created a software raid for storage purposes, but it won't let me copy files onto it in the GUI stating I don't have permission to do that. I understand I can do it in the terminal, but I'm  not the only one who uses this computer and if possible would like to be able to copy them in the GUI. Is there a way to edit permissions permanently?
[16:28] <eamon> j98jeep: man chmod
[16:28] <DasEi> eamon: sandbox the browser, either chroot-jail. apparmor or other acl, vm-solutiouns
[16:28] <Dev-Brian> does anyone know how i can get desktop notifications using irssi?
[16:28] <kunji> adib: I know what you mean, I run a 30 GB SSD that's dual booting, and I've looked into what you want.  I at least haven't found any way to do it that is within a reasonable time investment (this could pretty much be it's own research project)
[16:29] <Dev-Brian> i tried using the following notify.pl here http://code.google.com/p/irssi-libnotify/source/browse/notify.pl but it doesn't seem to do anything.
[16:29] <adib> so any tips how to do it with as least space as possible?
[16:29] <physically_fit> is there a problem with the update manager? when i click on install it does nothing and it just keeps "waiting". i can't click on "details" because it's greyed out.
[16:29] <j98jeep> I'll check that out, thanks eamon
[16:29] <ActionParsnip> Dev-Brian: http://www.codealpha.net/215/script-irssi-ubuntu-notify-osd-notification-system/
[16:30] <kunji> adib: Unfortunately, not really, I struggle to have enough space to even download updates on that machne T.T
[16:30] <eamon> adib: VMWare can use existing partitions. Trp running it in WINE
[16:30] <adib> that is actual true? i heard it from someone and no one else can confirm it
[16:31] <BluesKaj> physically_fit, run sudo apt-get update in the terminal and check the output
[16:31] <kunji> adib:  There are ways to migrate partitions though, so maybe you could move it to an external drive or something.
[16:31] <Dev-Brian> @ActionParsnip, thank u. I will try it out now.
[16:31] <unless_> Which is the command to trace open door at a IP really?
[16:31] <eamon> adib: https://my.vmware.com/web/vmware/details?downloadGroup=WKST-716-LX&productId=154&rPId=2616
[16:32] <eamon> unless: traceroute
[16:32] <eamon> unless_: traceroute
[16:32] <kunji> eamon: I've read that that method doesn't really work very well
[16:32] <adib> thanks eamon, ill try that
[16:32] <bekks> vbox can use existing partitions too.
[16:32] <adib> without alot of trouble?
[16:32] <unless_> ea
[16:32] <bekks> With the same trouble as vmware.
[16:32] <adib> and how much is that?
[16:33] <unless_> eamon, no, it not that one.
[16:33] <eamon> unless_: ping?
[16:33] <bekks> adib: You should have a backup of your complete system - in both cases.
[16:33] <unless_> eamon, no, not even.
[16:33] <physically_fit> BluesKaj, thanks, i'll do that. my pc is a mess right now. thanks again.
[16:33] <kunji> adib: sorry, I need to go right now (class T.T), and yeah, as bekks said, full back up if you're going to try doing it
[16:34] <adib> no thanks then
[16:34] <adib> if i have to backup my whole system i'd rather not do it
[16:34] <salvo> ciao
[16:34] <salvo> !lista
[16:35] <daemongpl> anyone know how to disable to touchpad while typing?
[16:36] <Dev-Brian> @ActionParsnip, i tried that script and nothing happened for me.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Dev-Brian: ask in #irssi too :)
[16:37] <eamon> daemongpl: Write a script and assign it to a hot key
[16:37] <Dev-Brian> haha, that gave me a notification.
[16:37] <Dev-Brian> guess it did work.
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> Dev-Brian: if you drop the @ character, it will highlight me, this isn't twitter
[16:37] <Dev-Brian> oops, yea my bad.
[16:38] <Dev-Brian> i think its working.  could u try pming me one time to see if that works?
[16:39] <eamon> daemongpl: http://wpkg.org/Disable_/_enable_keyboard_and_mouse_in_Linux < write a script to do that and put it on ctrl+alt+space bar or somehting
[16:39] <wilee-nilee> daemongpl, There is this ppa webupd8 will give you I use it on one computer that does not have a built in app for this.  http://www.webupd8.org/2011/02/touchpad-indicator-now-automatically.html
[16:40] <j98jeep> how do I reference my storage RAID in terminal? I've tried using the results of fdisk -l but it says no such file or directory. How do I find out what to call my RAID in terminal?
[16:40] <dfcnvt> Thanks guys, for your help. I manages to get it resolved.
[16:41] <ActionParsnip> Dev-Brian: test
[16:41] <wilee-nilee> eamon, your response to just write a script is a perfect example of why asking here for security help is not really a good idea people wil just say what they think is right.
[16:41] <Dev-Brian> ActionParsnip, public chat messages work.
[16:41] <Dev-Brian> but not the pm's
[16:42] <Dev-Brian> maybe if i change the message level to CRAP
[16:42] <eamon> wilee-nilee: What's wrong with writing a script?
[16:43]  * eamon writes scripts all the time. Anyone else?
[16:43] <wilee-nilee> eamon, nothing but there is an ap for that option your answer did not mention this, do you understand what I'm getting at as far as you getting solid information on security.
[16:44] <eamon> Oh you said it in the context of security. How is writing a script a security compromise?
[16:44] <rtdos> hey i added "0 0 * *  * /sbin/shutdown -h now" to my crontab, but do i need to update the sudoers file? ...to what? or should that be "/sbin/poweroff" instead? help?
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> rtdos: just cron as root, no need to mess with sudoers
[16:45] <Dev-Brian> awesome, thanks
[16:45] <ActionParsnip> rtdos: sudo crontab -e     will do it
[16:46] <wilee-nilee> eamon, he isn't but you were asking questions about it, and I assume hoped for straight answers I'm just pointing out the lack of real solid eveidence to be gotten on a support channel for some things, you just happen to prove it.
[16:46] <wilee-nilee> don't take it personally it is just an observation
[16:46] <eamon> wilee-nilee ho didn't ask gor an app
[16:46] <adib> wgucg tune if unage sgiykd u yse? virtual disk image, virtual machine disk, virtual hard disk or parallels hard disk
[16:46] <eamon> wilee-nilee h. didn't ask gor an app
[16:46] <eamon> wilee-nilee he didn't ask gor an app
[16:46] <adib> lets redo that
[16:47] <adib> i cant type
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> lol
[16:47] <eamon> fuckin typos
[16:47] <adib> which type of disk should i use? virtual disk image, virtual machine disk, virtual hard disk or parallels hard disk
[16:47] <bazhang> lets move on wilee-nilee eamon
[16:47] <adib> there we go
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> bazhang, no problem I thought my point was obvious.
[16:47] <bazhang> eamon, please no cursing here
[16:48] <bazhang> adib for vbox? vmware? which?
[16:48] <adib> vbox
[16:48] <bazhang> adib, tried in #vbox yet?
[16:48] <adib> nope
[16:48] <adib> ill go try there
[16:50] <eamon> wilee-nilee: my advice was to change a setting, yours was to install more bloat, and you say I'm a perfect example of bad advice. Riiiiiiiight.
[16:51] <Bitruder> Anybody get PostgreSQL 9.2 installed?  I'm getting hung up at the logrotate 3.8 requirement as 3.7 is the latest version in all the repositories I'm checking (Postgresql coming from debian experimental).
[16:51] <^Mike> Is there a way to have window focus follow the mouse in unity?
[16:54] <guntbert> ^Mike: does http://askubuntu.com/questions/64605/how-do-i-set-focus-follows-mouse help?
[16:54] <^Mike> guntbert: Great, thanks!
[16:55] <Dev-Brian> woo, notifications finally!
[16:55] <arosen1> Hi, I have 12.04 installed on by box but my sound card doesn't seem to work. It's detected though and showing up in alsamixer. Any ideas?
[16:55] <arosen1> join #geni
[16:55] <Dev-Brian> ActionParsnips, although, when i switch the script to MSGLEVEL_ACTIONS, i don't see anything anymore.
[16:56] <Dev-Brian> I would really like it to work for PUBLIC AND PRIVATE
[16:56] <DarkStar1> how do I find out the realease version I am working with?
[16:56] <Dev-Brian> is this line wrong?   return if (!$server || !($dest->{level} & MSGLEVEL_ACTIONS));
[16:56] <guntbert> DarkStar1: lsb_release -a
[16:56] <bazhang> !version | DarkStar1
[16:57] <DarkStar1> thansk
[16:58] <dfcnvt> How do I umount all that is connected to /mnt/disk ?
[16:58] <dfcnvt> I have four other parts that is binded to it.
[16:58] <black_13> why would ubuntu not hsow the grub2 boot menu?
[17:00] <guntbert> black_13: it isn't shown by default when ubuntu is the only OS, press left<shift> during boot to see it
[17:00] <livingdaylight> what is the command that tells me what my hardware processor and graphics card is?
[17:00] <bazhang> livingdaylight, sudo lshw  lspci
[17:00] <SlutaTramsa> hello everyone, my volume up/down & mute doesn't work on my microsoft wired keyboard 600. Any idea
[17:00] <SlutaTramsa> using ubuntu 12.04
[17:00] <dfcnvt> Nevermind, I use -l option for umount. It worked.
[17:00] <livingdaylight> bazhang, thanks, I had lspci but wasn't getting what I was looking for ^
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: sudo lshw -C display; cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:02] <livingdaylight> ActionParsnip, thanks, no wonder I couldn't remember that :s
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> SlutaTramsa: if you run:  xev   does it make events
[17:02] <ActionParsnip> livingdaylight: once you get used to the OS that stuff is simple
[17:03] <SlutaTramsa> yup
[17:03] <jacta> will 12.10 come next month?
[17:03] <jrib> jacta: 12.10 == 2012 october
[17:03] <ActionParsnip> SlutaTramsa: then go into the keyboard config, click on an action and you can press the key to assign it
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> jacta: year.month   is the version number form
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> jacta: so 14.04 will be out in 2014 in April
[17:04] <ActionParsnip> jacta: very logical
[17:04] <jrib> great -- ActionParsnip just jinxed an lts
[17:05] <ActionParsnip> jrib: hahah
[17:06] <jacta> :o
[17:06] <jacta> cant wait :o does it normaly come in start of month
[17:07] <SlutaTramsa> alright, I got http://pastebin.com/cdYeJjuN
[17:07] <SlutaTramsa> ActionParsnip
[17:07] <TheWarden> Where is the  .Xauthority file located on Ubuntu?
[17:07] <TheWarden> I don't see it in the /root nor in /home/user
[17:07] <guntbert> jacta: no, and further discussion in  #ubuntu+1
[17:08] <jacta> ActionParsnip, do you think you can help me get my ubuntu to see usb drives?
[17:08] <guntbert> TheWarden: type ls -A in your home directory
[17:08] <asker> hi
[17:09] <TheWarden> guntbert: I did that but I don't have such a file. Should I?
[17:09] <jacta> or other, nothing happens when I stick in usb drives, nor cards
[17:09] <TheWarden> jacta: try seeing if you can see the USB device, blkid
[17:09] <asker> hi
[17:09] <guntbert> TheWarden: not necessarily
[17:09] <SillyTalker> when unity is started, can i somehow switch to LXDE without logging out?
[17:10] <jacta> TheWarden, gives me: /dev/sr0: LABEL="CSI_MIAMI_1_D1" TYPE="udf"
[17:10] <SillyTalker> (i have my reasons to do this)
[17:10] <TheWarden> jacta: also you can try doing ls /dev/sd*
[17:10] <asker> can you read me
[17:10] <SillyTalker> yes asker
[17:10] <guntbert> ask| asker
[17:10] <jacta> TheWarden, /dev/sda  /dev/sda1  /dev/sda2  /dev/sda5
[17:10] <guntbert> !ask| asker
[17:10] <SillyTalker> he's not asking to ask guntbert
[17:10] <LLStarks> how do i restore menu bar when switching between unity and gnome-shell without restarting session?
[17:11] <SillyTalker> he's asking if we could read what he entered
[17:11] <asker> do you know a program to 5 times wrong password attemp after delte all user info
[17:11] <asker> like deadbox
[17:11] <bazhang> asker, why would you want that
[17:11] <TheWarden> jacta: that's odd, your saying when you do blkid you get /dev/sr0 and that, that is your USB flash drive? As the results from ls /dev/sd* doesn't show /dev/sr0
[17:11] <TheWarden> guntbert: mmm okay strange.... argh this is frustrating.
[17:12] <jacta> TheWarden, blkid is my ODD - i have CSI in that ;)
[17:12] <asker> i have some special info to secure
[17:12] <guntbert> TheWarden: what is your problem then?
[17:12] <TheWarden> jacta: ODD?
[17:12] <jacta> TheWarden, optical disc drive :)
[17:12] <theadmin> asker: That's no way to secure info... If it's deleted by entering passwords wrongly, it's not "securing" at all, it's risking it
[17:13] <TheWarden> jacta: oh how is the ODD connected, SATA, IDE, USB, SCSI, etc?
[17:13] <asker> my info can be secure only red by me
[17:13] <jacta> TheWarden, its a dell machine, no clue - inside :p
[17:13] <asker> i dont want to everybody to know
[17:13] <Uber-Geek> how do I run a service at startup in ubuntu server? rc.local isn't doing it.
[17:13] <jacta> ide would be my guess
[17:14] <SillyTalker> when unity is started, can i somehow switch to LXDE without logging out?
[17:14] <asker> i dont want to everybody to know
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> asker: then set the ownership to the user you want to only have access
[17:14] <jrib> Uber-Geek: what service?
[17:14] <TheWarden> guntbert: I'm trying to get VLC running on Ubuntu using RC (remote control) via Unix socket to control the player in fullscreen mode within a infinite loop. I keep getting errors, you can see my results here, https://gist.github.com/7d553adc6a268baa1b20
[17:14] <asker> you know it isnt solve security problem
[17:14] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: did you edit to .hosts file for it?
[17:15] <asker> ActionParsnip : you know it isnt solve security problem
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> asker: it does as the system will deny access to any other user
[17:15] <TheWarden> jacta: try ls /dev/hd* and see if you can see sr0
[17:15] <Uber-Geek> I created a script that runs vlc in daemon mode, if I do a service moh start it runs, but not from rc.local. The file is in the init.d directory and is executable
[17:15] <guntbert> TheWarden: sorry, no idea :(
[17:15] <jacta> TheWarden, ls: cannot access /dev/hd*: No such file or directory
[17:15] <TheWarden> ActionParsnip: what? edit the hosts file, what for? its locally receiving commands to add/remove items from the playlist, etc.
[17:15] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: .hosts   not hosts
[17:15] <ikonia> asker: you have been watching too many movies with self destruct sequences.
[17:16] <asker> ikonia : MAYBE
[17:16] <ikonia> asker: if you want to remove your user account on failed login, use a tool like fail to ban to monitor the security logs, and instead of the firewall commands, change the commands to remove the user account
[17:16] <TheWarden> ActionParsnip: again I ask, why do I need that? That's the help resolve domain names. That's not being used in this case at all.
[17:16] <TheWarden> guntbert: no problem, thanks.
[17:16] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: it dictates who can access the vlc service remotely
[17:16] <asker> ikonia : i want to delete all hdd
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: its nothing to do with DNS names at all
[17:17] <rupper> Hi
[17:17] <SlutaTramsa> ActionParsnip any idea on my question regarding Volume up/down on my keyboard? (don't mean to bother you..)
[17:17] <TheWarden> ActionParsnip: well its interfacing with int remotely locally to a socket and therefore doesn't require resolving domains.
[17:17] <ikonia> asker: well, you can't do that as the hard disk will be in use, however you can remove most of it by running an rm -rf as a trigger instead of a firewall
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: I'll put it in quotes to make it clearer as you aren't getting it
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: did you edit the ".hosts" file
[17:17] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: noth the period, that's not an accident
[17:17] <asker> ikonia : i have a idea
[17:18] <asker> ikonia : can i change boot device order of bios on linux
[17:18] <jrib> asker: you should just encrypt your data
[17:18] <TheWarden> ActionParsnip: no I have not, I'm not aware of the requirement to do this as there was no mention of this. Please explain to what do I need to edit this file?
[17:18] <ikonia> asker: no, you can't as the file system will still be in use
[17:18] <ikonia> asker: look, I've given you a solution that will do what you want.
[17:18] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: if you don't allow your netmask, the only system allowed access is localhost
[17:19] <TheWarden> ActionParsnip: okay, but that's what I have been saying I just want localhost to have access.
[17:19] <asker> ikonia : thanks man
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: edit the /etc/vlc/lua/http/.hosts    to allow your netmask
[17:19] <TheWarden> I'm trying to resolve error messages such as "main interface error: no suitable interface module" and "main libvlc error: interface "default" initialization failed".
[17:19] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: ahh, thats cool then , no need
[17:20] <jacta> TheWarden, did I lose you?
[17:20] <AutistiCucumber> Hey guys ubuntu rocks
[17:21] <Uber-Geek> I need to get vlc to run at startup on ubuntu server, however that is possible. I'm out of ideas at this point
[17:21] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: do you want the vlc to run on the remote screen only?
[17:21] <TheWarden> jacta: no I'm here, trying to solve my own issues :-). Ahh, trying mounting it manually "mount /dev/sr0 /media/temp" without double quotes and make sure the mount path exists, "/media/temp". In this case it should be mounted under /mnt and if we get this to work we can add this to your /etc/fstab
[17:23] <jacta> ActionParsnip, TheWarden does dmesg says something? http://pastebin.com/FVr9X1bm
[17:23] <TheWarden> ActionParsnip: no it runs on the system itself. I want VLC to run in full screen mode playing an infinite loop of videos. I'm locally via a script send commands using RC via the Unix socket to start VLC and add items to the play list. Perodicially it checks a remote server for new content if new content is found it downloads it and updates the play list.
[17:24] <TheWarden> ActionParsnip: at this stage I'm just enabling the RC and setting the socket and I'm getting these errors. It keeps crappying out.
[17:24] <joever> hi guys. running 12.04, having a problem with blurry fuzzy fonts on browsers. can someone please help me?
[17:25] <TheWarden> ActionParsnip: see https://gist.github.com/7d553adc6a268baa1b20
[17:25] <asker> joever : what is it
[17:25] <jrib> TheWarden: don't you need X for that?
[17:25] <asker> @joever
[17:25] <asker> @joever
[17:25] <asker> joever : what is it
[17:26] <jrib> asker: stop repeating please
[17:26] <jacta> TheWarden, hrrm
[17:26] <TheWarden> jrib: I do have X, these is all run via scripts using cron. It will initialize an instance of VLC within X make it full screen and play videos. I have it working at times but eventually it craps out and always gives these errors.
[17:26] <TheWarden> jacta: did you try the manual mount, I didn't see the results if you posted it.
[17:27] <jacta> but its not sr0 i try to get to work, TheWarden, its the mounted usb drive
[17:27] <Hexch> hi, can some of you recommend a simple hosting panel, just to manage apache, ftp, mysql?
[17:27] <joever> asker : fonts are blurry in firefox or chrome
[17:27] <TheWarden> jacta: okay I'm confused here now. start over again, your  trying to do what again?
[17:27] <jrib> TheWarden: I don't see why you would use rc.local then; you should just start your script on login probably
[17:28] <jacta> TheWarden, all usb drives and sdcards are not getting mounted
[17:28] <Sebastien> i am running eggdrop, and i would like to put it all in a .tar.gz file to create a "backup" of it. How could i do that?
[17:29] <ikonia> Sebastien: tar cvf eggdropbackup.tar .
[17:29] <ikonia> within the eggdrop directory
[17:29] <GunClive> what payment method does the software center use?
[17:29] <ikonia> put eggdropbackup.tar somewhere safe
[17:30] <TheWarden> jrib: ahh who said I was using rc.local. The scripts are executed using cron for the user the system boots into automatically. Either way I just trying to resolve the issue.
[17:30] <lazukars> Are there any applications that do this: http://thenextweb.com/dd/2012/09/11/uberlayer-lets-overlay-design-mockups-reference-code/  on Ubuntu?
[17:30] <TheWarden> jacta: Oh dang, I'm not sure what to suggest then. Maybe the controller is screwed.
[17:30] <Sebastien> ikonia: netbot@irczone:~$ tar cvf eggy.tar.gz
[17:30] <Sebastien> tar: Cowardly refusing to create an empty archive
[17:30] <ikonia> Sebastien: you missed the . at the end
[17:30] <jrib> TheWarden: oh that was Uber-Geek
[17:30] <TheWarden> jacta: have you tried mounting those USB devices manually?
[17:30] <Sebastien> oh
[17:30] <jacta> TheWarden, aww - Think I some time before played in pysdm app :\
[17:31] <Sebastien> same error
[17:31] <jacta> TheWarden, not sure what to try :\
[17:31] <Sebastien> nmv nmv
[17:31] <Sebastien> ty
[17:31] <ikonia> Sebastien: showme the command
[17:31] <ikonia> ok
[17:31] <asker> WHO CAN FIND ME PROGRAM LIKE DEADBOX
[17:31] <jrib> Uber-Geek: vlc probably needs to have access to X?
[17:31] <Sebastien> i forgot to put a space
[17:31] <ActionParsnip> Sebastien: try installing unp
[17:31] <Sebastien> unp ?
[17:31] <Sebastien> What is this ActionParsnip ?
[17:32] <TheWarden> jacta: find out the device name of a usb device with certainty. Then try to mount it a simple mount /dev/device_name /mnt/temp should do the trick. As I stated before make sure the mount point /mnt/temp exists before issuing the command.
[17:32] <TheWarden> jacta: blkid should list all devices as well
[17:32] <jacta> TheWarden, blkid only gives the sr0 :/
[17:33] <Uber-Geek> jrib, it can run via the command line, vlc with the --daemon flag. I can get it to work manually, just not upon bootup
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> Sebastien: its a one shot app for extracting any archive with a single command, no need to memorise stuff
[17:33] <TheWarden> jacta: ensure the cables are secured properly.
[17:33] <TheWarden> jacta: try doing sudo blkid
[17:33] <jrib> Uber-Geek: is there a reason you don't just run it on login?
[17:33] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: if you have the app running at startup, you can control it with the web ui. Is that what you need?
[17:33] <jacta> TheWarden, check pm for output :o
[17:33] <Uber-Geek> it's a server, I need it to run when the machine powers on
[17:34] <TheWarden> jacta: you have a usb hug connected?
[17:34] <jacta> TheWarden, only thing right now is the usb pen
[17:35] <TheWarden> ActionParsnip: no I stated what I required, I need to use the RC interface module so that I can send commands to control the player, add files to the play list, etc. without human interaction directly. All this is done via scripts.
[17:35] <ActionParsnip> TheWarden: oh, thats pretty fancy
[17:35] <TheWarden> jacta: mm the reason I as is because the dmsg stated a usb hub and I was wondering if you were hooking a USB hub up and then plugging devinces into that.
[17:36] <Uber-Geek> jrib, this server sits in a remote data center, when we reboot the server, I need the vlc to start up automatically without logging in and executing the command manually
[17:36] <TheWarden> ActionParsnip: well yes and no but the idea works just getting all these errors and then having it crap out once daily. which the errors is what I'm trying to resolve.
[17:36] <jacta> TheWarden, only had mouse/keyboard/pens in it
[17:36] <jacta> TheWarden, futhermore, gparted sees it right now as /dev/sdb/
[17:37] <jrib> Uber-Geek: so you have an upstart script you created with this "moh" service?
[17:37] <TheWarden> jacta: according to the dmsg you have an ODD HL-DT-ST DVD+-RW GT50N running on SATA.
[17:37] <jrib> Uber-Geek: or is this a sys-v style script you created?
[17:37] <jacta> TheWarden, must be my cd drive inside it :o
[17:38] <Uber-Geek> jrib, I added the init info to it, and made it executable.
[17:38] <jrib> Uber-Geek: this is not a clear answer
[17:38] <TheWarden> jacta: yeah have you tried different discs? I see the Logitech keyboard and mouse.... mmm
[17:39] <jrib> Uber-Geek: maybe just pastebin your script and mention its location
[17:40] <Uber-Geek> jrib, working on it :) have to move from ubuntu to windows
[17:41] <SillyTalker> can i switch to LXDE without logging out?
[17:42] <Uber-Geek> jrib, http://pastebin.com/embed_js.php?i=pbrpEcz6
[17:42] <dr_willis> not very easially SillyTalker
[17:42] <theadmin> SillyTalker: No, you can't really "switch" desktop environments without starting a new session
[17:42] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: are there any instructions or something?
[17:43] <jrib> Uber-Geek: this isn't a proper init script for either upstart or sys-v
[17:43] <dr_willis> SillyTalker:  you have to somehow kill off unity as you start lxde.. you kill the wrong thing= you get logged out.
[17:44] <Uber-Geek> jrib, I'm flying blind here, as there is very little out there for running this sort of thing.
[17:44] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: aha
[17:44] <dr_willis> SillyTalker:  easier to just lotout
[17:44] <dr_willis> logout
[17:44] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: well i can't it's a long story
[17:45] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: in short: it's a prebuilt chroot image and they messed it up so you cannot evne logout and choose anotehr session
[17:45] <SillyTalker> i guess i have no choice but to try and build my own image :(
[17:45] <dr_willis> can you logout at all?
[17:45] <SillyTalker> nope
[17:45] <dr_willis> you got a .dmrc file?
[17:45] <SillyTalker> blackscreen with mouse pointer when i do
[17:46] <jrib> Uber-Geek: if you want to stick with sysv-init for some reason, then you should model your script after /etc/init.d/skeleton.  However, ubuntu has moved on to upstart and the scripts are not formatted the same.  There's a very good document at http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/ about creating init scripts for upstart.  In either case, you should not be attempting to start the init script with commands in
[17:46] <jrib> rc.local
[17:46] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: i'm not sure, what is this file for?
[17:46] <dr_willis> SillyTalker:  it dedines your default desktop
[17:46] <dr_willis> defines
[17:46] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: aha, so i i set it to LXDE there i should be fine?
[17:47] <Uber-Geek> jrib, I just want it to run, I'm not real picky as to how, so long as it starts on its own.
[17:47] <dr_willis> in theory
[17:47] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: well i'll try, but i need to copy the image again firs,t where do i find the file please?
[17:47] <jrib> Uber-Geek: well ideally, you would use upstart.  If you don't care about having it managed and just want to run a command at boot, then just put the command in /etc/rc.local itself
[17:47] <dr_willis> SillyTalker:  .dmrc is in your home
[17:48] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: ok thanks, i'll let you know if it worked
[17:48] <jrib> Uber-Geek: you could also use @reboot in crontab.  But again, it really is better to manage it with upstart
[17:49] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: are you sure it is still supported though?
[17:49] <SillyTalker> i can only find old information about it
[17:49] <Uber-Geek> jrib, for now, the crontab might work until I get upstart figured out. So @reboot vlc /opt/music/WRRK.m3u --daemon ?
[17:49] <dr_willis> SillyTalker:  its us3ed by gdm, lightdm and kdm  last i looked its on 12.10 system
[17:50] <jrib> Uber-Geek: give the full path to vlc
[17:50] <dr_willis> it just saves your last selected desktop from lightdm
[17:50] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: ah ok then it will be on 12.04 as well :) do you happen to know the proper name for LXDE?
[17:50] <SillyTalker> to put in the file
[17:50] <SillyTalker> can't find it on google so far
[17:50] <dr_willis> SillyTalker:  nope.  ask a lubuntu user perhaps
[17:50] <Uber-Geek> jrib, ok, I'm getting that set up now.
[17:50] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: i can pastebin my lubuntu session file if you want
[17:51] <SillyTalker> ActionParsnip: sure thanks in advance
[17:51] <dr_willis> should be just 1 or 2 lines
[17:51] <SillyTalker> is .dmrc referred to as the session file?
[17:52] <dr_willis> theres .Xsession and .xinitrc  session filesa
[17:52] <dr_willis> .dmrc is where the login m anager saves the desktop you selected
[17:52] <SillyTalker> so is it not neough to jsut change .dmrc?
[17:53] <SillyTalker> enough
[17:53] <dr_willis> if you autologin - then its used. by default
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1199125/
[17:53] <SillyTalker> ok the image does autologin so :)
[17:53] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: SillyTalker that is /usr/share/xsessions/Lubuntu.desktop
[17:53] <SillyTalker> (even when it's not set btw :s)
[17:54] <SillyTalker> ActionParsnip: and can you see what's in .dmrc to start lubuntu ?
[17:54] <dr_willis> ActionParsnip:  whats in your .dmrc ?
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1199127/
[17:54] <SillyTalker> ty again ActionParsnip
[17:54] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: that is the startlubuntu script
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: is that in $HOME? I don't have one
[17:55] <shahriyar> do i need to add "#" before commands while editing a config file?
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> wait, i do
[17:55] <ActionParsnip> dr_willis: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1199130/
[17:55] <SillyTalker> thanks ActionParsnip
[17:56] <ash_> I am missing gaming :'(
[17:56] <ash_> :
[17:56] <SillyTalker> "Session=Lubuntu"
[17:56] <SillyTalker> :)
[17:56] <shahriyar> please reply this noob question immidiately, i am in hurry
[17:56] <kymwash> Quick question, how often to you guys run into broken kernels?
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> ash_: wassup?
[17:56] <SillyTalker> so i'll just get lubuntu instead of LXDE on its own
[17:56] <dr_willis> lubuntu is lxde
[17:56] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: its an option
[17:56] <Uber-Geek> jrib, @reboot /usr/bin/vlc /opt/music/WRRK.m3u --daemon in the crontab doesn't do anything
[17:56] <shahriyar> so do i have to add ## sometimes # while adding new commands in any config file?
[17:57] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: ActionParsnip i'll let you know how it works out, need to wait until the image is copied
[17:57] <SillyTalker> thanks for the hlep and info!
[17:57] <dr_willis> shahriyar:  adding comments?
[17:57] <SillyTalker> i was asking about this yesterday and nobody knew
[17:57] <ActionParsnip> SillyTalker: depends who is on the channel really
[17:58] <dr_willis> SillyTalker:  sounds like you are using some wacked out most likely not supported by us setup also... ;)
[17:58] <shahriyar> dr_willis: there is ## and # before the previous commands, i think i should add ## or # ahead of 2 lines im gonna add..but dont know about this damn thing
[17:58] <ActionParsnip> could be a mionimal install
[17:58] <daemongpl> What is the path to the keyboard shortcuts config? (Unity > Keyboard > Shortcuts tab)
[17:59] <dr_willis> shahriyar:     #command      is commented out..[ it dosent get ran
[17:59] <dr_willis> ######  is also a comment.. and does nothing
[17:59] <jrib> Uber-Geek: redirect stdout and stderr somewhere (and consider installing an mta so you can get mail from cron)
[18:00] <shahriyar> dr_willis: you mean it is not important whether i do add it or not? but why is it applied for the prevous ones? just for formality?
[18:00] <Deeewayne> I just upgrade to Ubuntu precise (server) and now my vmware workstation (2) is no working.  Can someone please tell me how to roll back to Lucid?
[18:00] <dr_willis> shahriyar:  no idea why.. but   # is the start of a comment......
[18:00] <ActionParsnip> Deeewayne: reinstall
[18:00] <Uber-Geek> jrib, I'm going to focus on the upstart portion, I'll just have to manually start it until then. Thanks for looking at it for me.
[18:01] <dr_willis> bash basics
[18:01] <bazhang> Deeewayne, full reinstall
[18:01] <Deeewayne> :-( ok, thanks
[18:01] <ActionParsnip> Deeewayne: i suggest you ask in #vmware  they may know some logs you can check and may have advise
[18:01] <shahriyar> dr_willis: should i add that ## or # or nothing but space?
[18:01] <Deeewayne> I was just in there and checking out my options.  I guess I need to purchase Workstation 9
[18:01] <Deeewayne> ActionParsnip, bazhang : thanks
[18:02] <ActionParsnip> shahriyar: anything to the right of a '#' will be ignored, even if it is any number of # characters
[18:02] <dr_willis> # and ## and ########### are all comments...
[18:02] <shahriyar> Deeewayne: what kind of problem you do face with with vmware? i just solved an issue on vmware incompatibility with upgrades i would help so
[18:02] <dr_willis> delete the lines if you want to.. ;P
[18:02] <Deeewayne> shahriyar, http://pastebin.ca/2203267
[18:02] <dr_willis> #la da dee  the script never sees me.....
[18:03] <tsimpson> shahriyar: it depends what you are configuring and how it parses it's configuration file(s)
[18:03] <Deeewayne> shahriyar, does (http://pastebin.ca/2203267) look like the issue you just solved?
[18:03] <dr_willis> specific script/cof`nfig examples would be handy
[18:03] <shahriyar> ActionParsnip: so i just type my 2 line of code and save&quit complie. is it right ?
[18:03] <dr_willis> the old grub menu.lst did weird nested comments
[18:04] <ActionParsnip> Deeewayne: what is the output of:  file /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-24-generic
[18:04] <dr_willis> shahriyar:   you could just try it and see.
[18:05] <shahriyar> Deeewayne: no i havent met this problem, i have 12.10 quantal right now, kernel works okay..but im sure there is a solution on google..gl
[18:05] <dr_willis> we have no idea what you are editing or doing shahriyar  pastebining the file would help us understand
[18:05] <Deeewayne> ActionParsnip, /usr/src/linux-headers-3.2.0-30-generic/: directory
[18:05] <shahriyar> dr_willis: im not gonna corrupt that's an imporatant configuration file
[18:06] <dr_willis> shahriyar:  so logically..... back it up....
[18:06] <shahriyar> dr_willis: i doesn't have ~ file
[18:06] <auronandace> shahriyar: 12.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[18:06] <dr_willis> you havent told us what file or any details
[18:06] <dr_willis> cp foo foo.mycriticalbackup
[18:07] <shahriyar> dr_willis: may i pm you some previous lines ? have no time to pastebin
[18:08] <extrasolar> pastebin takes 10 seconds
[18:08] <bazhang> !12.10 | shahriyar
[18:08] <dr_willis> im at work.. so i may have to leave at any time
[18:08] <dr_willis> it just took us 5 min to educate you on # = a comment...
[18:08] <kolato> Hey
[18:09] <shahriyar> dr_willis: hehe right but i thought it was easy Q
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> Deeewayne: cool, i'd ask in the #vmware channel, see wnat they say
[18:09] <bazhang> shahriyar, this is not the correct channel for 12.10 support
[18:09] <rtdos> how do use i use cron as root?
[18:09] <extrasolar> sudo
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> rtdos: sudo crontab -e
[18:10] <ActionParsnip> rtdos: or if you have a desktop UI:  gksudo gnome-schedule
[18:11] <Deeewayne> ActionParsnip, here is a better output (http://pastebin.ca/2203270).  If you can't suggestion anything after this I'll just have to purchase workstation 9 which is the #vmware recommendation
[18:11] <shahriyar> bazhang: i was using precise till the day before yesterday so stop bothering me !
[18:11] <auronandace> shahriyar: if you are having issues with 12.10 take it to #ubuntu+1
[18:12] <sahirh> exit
[18:12] <ActionParsnip> Deeewayne: if you can get the later gcc it should be ok
[18:12] <auronandace> shahriyar: this channel is for stable releases only
[18:12] <Deeewayne> ActionParsnip, gcc -version shows I have 4.6.3 which is what the kernel was built with
[18:13] <shahriyar> auronandace: hey listen my question is not distro release related okay?
[18:13] <auronandace> shahriyar: what is your question?
[18:14] <shahriyar> auronandace: i mentioned above if you were intereested you could respond already
[18:15] <dr_willis> shahriyar:  if a line is not a command and is just infor ation,,, its a comment... put a # befor it.. its not that hard
[18:15] <servercbe> Hello!... I need help to use my 2 video card at the same time.. any help please...
[18:15] <auronandace> shahriyar: depends on the config file, usually # means comment (in other words the script ignores that line)
[18:16] <dr_willis> shahriyar:  used options would NOT be commented
[18:16] <servercbe> Hello!... I need help to use my 2 video card at the same time.. any help please...
[18:17] <ActionParsnip> Deeewayne: does /usr/bin/gcc point to the right version and is that the output of:  which gcc
[18:17] <k1l_> servercbe: which ubuntu, which video cards?
[18:17] <daemongpl> anyone know where the custom keyboard shortcut are stored?
[18:17] <servercbe> K1l... I have EduUbuntu 12.04....
[18:18] <servercbe> and the  video cards are ..... any comand to  paste the info???
[18:18] <JJJ> Hey . . .  I have a quick question. . . . I'm seriously considering switching to ubuntu . . . . .  My wife wants to continue using the computer for Scrapbooking. . . .  does a package exist on Linux?
[18:18] <shahriyar> applied without ##s hope it works. thanks guys
[18:19] <dr_willis> how many times do we say # = same as a blank line.. its ignored
[18:19] <k1l_> servercbe: "lspci | pastebinit"  maybe install pastebinit first
[18:19] <auronandace> shahriyar: you haven't told us what you are editing
[18:19] <dr_willis> adding   somthing like   #foo=1000000       would be pointless unless its for informational purposes for the reader of the config
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> JJJ: try it on a USB stick or run it in liveCD, see how it suits you
[18:20] <servercbe> what I mean... is to get the info and then I will paste it
[18:20] <shahriyar> i dont mind you would know it but if interested it was onioncat)
[18:20] <ActionParsnip> JJJ: you can always dual boot.....
[18:20] <w30> JJJ, what's Scrapbooking, a program to make a scrapbook? i.e. print one out
[18:20] <Deeewayne> ActionParsnip, which gcc outputs '/usr/bin/gcc'
[18:20] <k1l_> servercbe: lspci
[18:20] <JJJ> w30:  yes.
[18:21] <otpicnerpe> Hello #ubuntu, I need help.  I just installed Ubuntu but I must have selected the wrong partition to install GRUB to, as rebooting it goes into Windows.  I have rebooted again into the Ubuntu Live CD to attempt to correct this problem.  I am not confident in trying to solve this problem myself, and I am scared I will wreck my Windows partition.  Anyone here willing to help me?
[18:22] <servercbe> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation GT218 [GeForce 8400 GS] (rev a2)
[18:22] <servercbe> one card is integrated, and the other is a gforce
[18:22] <alpre> otpicnerpe: how many hard disks?
[18:23] <otpicnerpe> alpre, I have three hard disks.  Windows is on /dev/sda1 and Ubuntu is on /dev/sdb1.  Since it boots into Windows when I turn my computer on, I believe I need to install GRUB to the MBR of /dev/sda
[18:23] <aminosamigos> hello :) i want to ask what is the purpose of the .local folder
[18:23] <otpicnerpe> my other hard disk is just for extra storage, my D drive on Windows, it is an NTFS partition
[18:24] <servercbe> should I past all the info? Is it Needed.. If it is let me know please
[18:24] <alpre> otpicnerpe: you don't need to overwrite the windows mbr on sda, you can use sdb
[18:24] <capribex> Upgraded to 12.04 and lost the encryption of Home folder. First boot everything was fine and Ubuntu asked for the encryption passphrase. But then it stopped asking for the passphrase or in other words canceled the encryption by its own will... How do I reinstate encryption? Why did the system delete it?
[18:24] <alpre> otpicnerpe: if you installed grub to sdb, then you just need to set in bios to boot from that hdd first
[18:24] <otpicnerpe> alpre, OK.  So if I install GRUB on the MBR of sdb, I imagine I would need to configure the BIOS?
[18:24] <alpre> yes
[18:24] <otpicnerpe> OK.
[18:25] <otpicnerpe> When I look at the software repository for Grub, the only result I see is this Legacy version... that doesn't seem like what I want
[18:25] <rtdos> ipmi ?
[18:26] <alpre> otpicnerpe: you don't install grub from software center usually
[18:26] <servercbe> Hello!... I need help to use my 2 video card at the same time.. any help please...
[18:26] <capribex> Anybody with any knowledge about the lost encryption?
[18:26] <alpre> otpicnerpe: if you really need to reinstall grub, you can google on help.ubuntu.com reinstall grub from livecd
[18:27] <ataturkpicleri> .
[18:27] <k1l_> servercbe: so the one onboard is an intel video card? this is not the new optimus nvidia thing?
[18:27] <dr_willis> servercbe:  just install the drivers and run the config tool.  nvidia onboard and nvidia extra card makes it easy
[18:27] <dr_willis> servercbe:  is this a laptop or desktop
[18:29] <servercbe> desktop
[18:29] <dr_willis> tried the displays/monitor tool yet in the system settings?
[18:30] <servercbe> It only shows me 1 monitor no two..
[18:30] <ataturkpicleri> .
[18:30] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: i do not have a .dmrc :(
[18:30] <w30> JJJ, If your wife has used Windows Scrapbook for years, she won't be happy with anything thats even a little different. See if you can run the Windows program in Wine or maybe the commercial version of Wine.
[18:31] <k1l_> !ot > ataturkpicleri
[18:31] <dr_willis> its also possible the onbord turns it offi
[18:32] <dr_willis> SillyTalker: make one perhspd
[18:32] <servercbe> yes... One of the cards,,, turns off
[18:33] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: i'm installing lubuntu-desktop now, i'll check again afterwards, and make one if there's none, will let you know how it works out
[18:34] <capribex> nobody with any insight re lost encryption?
[18:35] <servercbe> help please.
[18:36] <otpicnerpe> alpre, I mounted /dev/sdb1 and I see grub is already installed there in /boot.  So I believe I just need to tell the BIOS to boot from that disk.  However, looking at cfdisk for /dev/sdb, I do not see the BOOT flag for /dev/sdb1 where root (and thus /boot) is mounted to.  Does this mean I would need to give this partition the boot flag?
[18:36] <guntbert> capribex: normally you are not asked for the encryption passphrase every time, it is by itself encrypted with your password and therefore used "automatically" when you log in
[18:36] <alpre> servercbe: it could be impossible, the internal card shuts off if you use another
[18:37] <servercbe> mmmm....but it works with windows pretty well... so.. this is why I am trying to do the same on ubuntu
[18:37] <servercbe> I dont understand why I could be impossible
[18:37] <servercbe> could you explain me please...
[18:38] <alpre> otpicnerpe: I am not sure about the boot flag, I'd follow the instructions first on ubuntu.help, section 2.2.2 and if it still won't boot change the flag too. Don't forget the bios boot order.
 thanks! finally some insight :-)  with the previous versions of ubuntu it asked me every time I booted. note that my log-in password and my encrypted home folder passphrase are different. are you sure it is still, somehow, encrypted and safe?
[18:38] <alpre> servercbe: if it works on windows, then I was wrong
[18:39] <servercbe> so... any suggestion...
[18:39] <guntbert> capribex: how did you creat that homedir encryption?
 about a year ago when installed ubuntu.... a few days ago i run the upgrade to 12.04. worked perfectly and first few boots asked for my passphrase. but then stopped. now when i boot as USER it just asks for the boot password but not for the encrypted directory passphrase. but still gives me access to it....
[18:42] <guntbert> capribex: please look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EncryptedHome, scroll down to "Encrypted Home" - does that apply to your situation?
[18:42] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: still installing lubuntu-desktop but i was wondering, can i not remove unity?
[18:42] <SillyTalker> and the gnome fallback
[18:42] <SillyTalker> i got limitd space too so
[18:42] <guntbert> and, capribex you don't need < > around my nick :)
[18:43] <m1chael> i deleted all partitions with fdisk, but when i boot, the computer is still trying to do a windows xp install... what should i do?
[18:43] <bazhang> !purelxde | SillyTalker
[18:44] <SillyTalker> bazhang: ty
[18:44] <dr_willis> SillyTalker:  why bother.. you that tight on hd space?
[18:44] <guntbert> m1chael: wild guess: remove the CD?
[18:44] <m1chael> there is no CDs in the drive!
[18:44] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: it's a chroot on a sdcard on a android tablet
[18:44] <SillyTalker> so yes
[18:44] <SillyTalker> lol
[18:46] <dr_willis> sounds experimental to me.. ;) my new phone is not rooted yet so i cant do that
[18:46] <capribex> sorry guntbert.... i am quiet new to this :-)   the link references 9.04. is it valid for the migration to 12.04? either way, i didnt upgrade from a CD but rather from the software updates link...
[18:46] <Aegir> Aegir heeft verlaten (quit)
[18:46] <Troy^> my ubuntu desktop has been up 14 days. would never have gone this far on windows
[18:46] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: my phone is not rooted either, but this tablet came rooted, i just needed busybox (and optionally superuser) and that was that
[18:47] <guntbert> capribex: encryption didn't change since then, I guess that somewhere in the process you selected option 3. But we can test it. Do you have another user?
[18:48] <mathi> hi
[18:48] <capribex> guntbert: i have "guest".... good enough or root user?
[18:48] <mathi> How can I see if any firewall is active in my ubuntu ?
[18:49] <mathi> anyone ?
[18:49] <WaffleScratch> How can I get cron to not log in auth.log and system log?
[18:49] <Cottus> i don't think there is by default
[18:49] <otpicnerpe> alpre, thank you for your help.  I am rebooting my box now... *fingers crossed*
[18:50] <ataturkpicleri> ubottu fucking your private message
[18:50] <Cottus> m1chael, you can also choose the 'o' option in fstab
[18:50] <IdleOne> !language | ataturkpicleri
[18:51] <alpre> mathi: I'd guess 'sudo iptables -L -n'
[18:52] <guntbert> capribex: guest is no good, and don't enable root. Create another user (say name temp, you can delete it afterwards), log out, log in as that other user, open a terminal and type    sudo ls /home/temp.
[18:52] <ataturkpicleri> ubottu sie
[18:52] <guntbert> capribex: you *should* only see .Private
[18:53] <guntbert> ataturkpicleri: stop that
[18:53] <DJ_Danni> hi all
[18:53] <DJ_Danni> i have Ubuntu 12 and i am having Prablome
[18:53] <auronandace> DJ_Danni: 12.04?
[18:53] <DJ_Danni> yes
[18:54] <auronandace> DJ_Danni: whats the problem?
[18:55] <ataturkpicleri> non stop
[18:55] <francesco_> Hello, I would like to ask you something. I am experiencing the following problem. I would like to update my Ubuntu, but I have an old Pentium IV. I have tried to install a new version of Ubuntu, but my PC gets very slow. That's why a keep an old version of Ubuntu on my PC. On another channel someone told me that it could be the interface that is to "heavy". Is it so, and how could I choose the interface that I l
[18:55] <francesco_> ike most?
[18:56] <auronandace> !lubuntu | francesco_
[18:56] <DJ_Danni> well when i try to go to my website http://www.djdanni.com witch is on 89.160.201.74 i get error on my ubuntu :(
[18:56] <capribex> gunbert: so non admin account?
[18:56] <ataturkpicleri> mehdi no terror no
[18:56] <guntbert> capribex: no, not necessary, just another normal account
[18:56] <francesco_> lubuntu? Does it stand for "Light Ubuntu"?
[18:56] <bazhang> ataturkpicleri, thats enough
[18:57] <bazhang> francesco_, lxde
[18:57] <pantheon> #ubuntu-ru
[18:57] <Cottus> does not seem to connect to 89.160.201.74
[18:57] <whyz> how do i turn on screen sharing in 12.04? has it been removed?
[18:57] <ataturkpicleri> fucking america
[18:57] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[18:57] <francesco_> auronandace, ubottu, if I install Lubuntu, do I have all the functionalities that I need? Graphics, videos, etc.?
[18:57] <auronandace> DJ_Danni: i can't access your site either
[18:57] <mathi> alpre, do you know what that means ?     http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=7LycPYAj
[18:58] <DJ_Danni> wait
[18:58] <guntbert> whyz: on terminal type  vino-preferences
[18:58] <auronandace> francesco_: lxde is just the desktop environment, you can install whatever apps you like (as usual)
[18:59] <alpre> mathi: lookup the manual for iptables, this means there are no firewall rules. I don't know how the ubuntu default firewall works
[18:59] <DJ_Danni> Strance bechuse nothink have chande
[19:01] <Eagleman> netsplit?
[19:02] <garr> hi there
[19:02] <garr> have a small question
[19:02] <Eagleman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Roundcube
[19:03] <Eagleman> IS OUTDATED RIGHT?
[19:03] <Eagleman> caps
[19:03] <garr> I made a package with my program and I want to share it somewhere
[19:03] <garr> I mean in a repo
[19:03] <bazhang> garr, consider a ppa then
[19:04] <bazhang> !ppa | garr
[19:04] <garr> alraight, thanks ;)
[19:04] <garr> I what sould I do to have my package in the main repo?
[19:04] <Eagleman> a lot
[19:04] <Eagleman> I dont think it will be easy
[19:06] <garr> yeah, but what to start with? ;)
[19:06] <Eagleman> i have no idea
[19:06] <garr> maybe I have some chances
[19:06] <garr> ok, I'll start my own ppa then
[19:06] <Eagleman> dont espect ur app to be in the main repository for the next year
[19:06] <Eagleman> expect
[19:06] <kostkon> garr, also check this option http://developer.ubuntu.com/publish/
[19:07] <garr> oh
[19:07] <garr> thats great
[19:07] <extropy> am I crazy or did "Terminal" in Ubuntu used to have a scrollbar?
[19:07] <garr> kostkon: thanks :)
[19:07] <kostkon> garr, np
[19:08] <Eagleman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Roundcube Is it me or is it way obselete?
[19:08] <capribex> guntbert: it said "testtemp is not in the sudoers file" when i entered the sudo ls /home/temp
[19:09] <SillyTalker> grrrrrrrr
[19:10] <guntbert> capribex: my bad - make it an "administrator" account please
[19:10] <SillyTalker> still unity garbage!
[19:10] <capribex> guntbert: you are forgiven :-)
[19:13] <francesco_> auronandace, I am reading your message only now. If I want to install Lubuntu, do I have to install the OS from the beginning, or update my Ubuntu?
[19:13] <bazhang> francesco_, lubuntu-desktop package
[19:14] <auronandace> francesco_: you can download lubuntu iso or just install lubuntu-desktop if you already have ubuntu installed
[19:14] <francesco_> auronandace, how can lubuntu-desktop be so much lighter that the usual interface?
[19:15] <bazhang> francesco_, it's lxde and openbox
[19:15] <capribex> guntbert: ls: cannot access /home/temp: No such file or directory
[19:15] <guntbert> capribex: of course it must be /home/<nameofthatuser>
[19:16] <francesco_> bazhang, auronandace, I am not sure if this the proper channel to ask (perhaps it is not), but someone suggested me to install Debian. What do you think?
[19:16] <bazhang> francesco_, #ubuntu-discuss or #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:16] <auronandace> francesco_: use whatever suits you or gets the job done
[19:17] <capribex> guntbert: too much milk this morning....
[19:18] <capribex> guntbert: Desktop    Downloads	     Music     Public	  Videos
[19:18] <capribex> Documents  examples.desktop  Pictures  Templates
[19:18] <francesco_> bazhang, auronandace, just curiosity. Have you ever experienced the problem I am having now?
[19:18] <auronandace> francesco_: the oldest machine i have is my t40 and that runs xubuntu quite well
[19:19] <auronandace> francesco_: xfce is lighter than kde or gnome/unity
[19:19] <francesco_> t40?
[19:19] <auronandace> francesco_: lxde is even lighter still
[19:19] <guntbert> capribex: (I don't know what I had too much of :-)),  you need  sudo ls /home/<nameofyourownuser>  - sorry
[19:19] <auronandace> francesco_: thinkpad t40
[19:19] <Socket-> Can anyone give me a good resource for how to properly lock down a ubuntu server.  I found STIGS for General UNIX standards, but nothing for ubuntu in particular.
[19:19] <dr_willis> And lighter then lubuntu would be... err.. rolling your own. ;)
[19:20] <francesco_> auronandace, perhaps I still have difficulties thinking that OS and interface are two different things.
[19:20] <dr_willis> I wonder how light jwm+rox-filer would be.
[19:20] <mehul> hello?
[19:20] <dr_willis> mehul:  hullo
[19:21] <capribex> guntbert: Access-Your-Private-Data.desktop  README.txt
[19:21] <mehul> i have a windows i5 proccessor n a hp laptop. I am new to ubuntu , i need help with the installation guide.
[19:21] <guntbert> capribex: see? encryption works :)
[19:21] <mehul> i had downloaded 12.04 both amd and intel installation files
[19:21] <dr_willis> francesco_:  linux is all about 'layers' and 'legos' ;) little bits making layers with more bits on top
[19:21] <capribex> guntbert: this is so strange. so how come i am not asked for the passphrase but still have access to it?
[19:22] <dr_willis> mehul:  amd64 means its the 64bit version for intel or am d 64 bit cpus
[19:22] <dr_willis> mehul:  the i386 is the32bit version
[19:23] <francesco_> Silly question. (Forgive me!) Why does Ubuntu use Gnome if it is so "heavy"?
[19:23] <mehul> when i use the windows installer, it tries to download again? can this be remidies?
[19:23] <GunArm> francesco_: ubuntu uses unity now
[19:23] <guntbert> capribex: as I said in the beginning: the actual passphrase is encrypted with your password and used to decrypt the directory when you log in (choice 3 on the page I told you about)
[19:23] <GunArm> unless you choose gnome
[19:23] <auronandace> francesco_: why not?
[19:23] <dr_willis> francesco_:  its not that heavy.   unity runs well on my low end netbook
[19:24] <capribex> guntbert: it means that in order to access the encrypted files, "all" it takes is the admin password and the system ignores the passphrase protecting the encrypted data... isn't it unsafe and defeating the purpose?
[19:24] <francesco_> Perhaps it is not Gnome that is heavy. It is my pc that is slow.
[19:24] <GunArm> does anyone use the vnstatphp front end to vnstat?  if so any idea why the hours are off by 7 hours?
[19:24] <auronandace> francesco_: most likely a combination of both
[19:25] <dr_willis> GunArm:  i would guess a time zone setting.
[19:25] <capribex> guntbert: that is, with the previous version of ubuntu, even after log in i would still need to give the system a different passphrase to make the encrypted files available....  looked safer, no?
[19:26] <francesco_> I should not criticize Ghome perhaps, but if what you tell me is true, and Gnome is "heavier" than LXDE, and with LXDE I can get the same result, I don't understand why they don't use LXDE.
[19:26] <guntbert> capribex: it doesn't ignore anything, the decryption is done when you log in - people usually choose a secure password for their account (and you need the password of that account)
[19:26] <Eagleman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Roundcube Is it me or is it way obselete?
[19:26] <dr_willis> francesco_:  lxde does not have the same feature set
[19:27] <GunArm> dr_willis: that was my guess too, (I'm in GMT -6) but I just manaully reset the timezone and no dice,  and actually these are the lampp files copied from another server where i originally started having the problem (out of the blue) so maybe the php files got jacked up some how
[19:27] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  cube and unity does not work well. so id say its been  an outdated guide for some time
[19:27] <Eagleman> unity?
[19:27] <capribex> guntbert: so i was worried for nothing :-)   guntbert, thank you so much. your help was (is) much appreciated.
[19:27] <dr_willis> !unity
[19:27] <Eagleman> I am running CLI only
[19:28] <Eagleman> ubuntu-server
[19:28] <guntbert> capribex: You're welcome :)
[19:28] <dr_willis> you are talking about the compiz cube?
[19:28] <dr_willis> it has a 'round/sphere' option ;)
[19:28] <francesco_> dr_willis, pertinent question: could you explain me again how I install the lxde environment, where I have Ubuntu pre-installed already?
[19:29] <Eagleman> dr_willis isnt there a web interface?
[19:29] <auronandace> francesco_: sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[19:29] <dr_willis> francesco_:  on the lightdm login screen you select it via the gear icon
[19:29] <dr_willis> Eagleman:  a web interface to compiz?
[19:29] <Eagleman> for roundcube
[19:30] <dr_willis> i think we are talking about 2 totally different round cubes...
[19:30] <Eagleman> Well there is so i aam a bit confused with you saaying that it isnt compatible with unity
[19:30] <Eagleman> while i am on a server :P
[19:30] <francesco_> auronandace, do I need to reset something after I install it, or do I just reboot my PC?
[19:31] <OerHeks> Eagleman, good to mention you are on a server, so why do you need roundcube anyway ?
[19:31] <auronandace> francesco_: log out then choose lxde at the login screen
[19:31] <Eagleman> To look at my e-mail online
[19:32] <francesco_> auronandace, after I install lxde do I have multiple environment to choose when starting up my pc?
[19:33] <auronandace> francesco_: at the login screen
[19:33] <Pazzie> hi all, i have a question, (i am building a ubuntu server, on vmware esx, i am replacing my windows media server for a ubuntu media server) bascily what i want to know is, since i have 4 different disks (1 os, 4 data disks) would you recommend lvm or no lvm, Since i am reading alot of different information about it.
[19:33] <Eagleman> Which mediaa center will you use?
[19:33] <wN> Pazzie: lvm is great if your'e going to manipulating your storage
[19:33] <francesco_> auronandace, what if I want to use lxde permanently, and I don't want Ubuntu to ask me all the time?
[19:34] <Pazzie> ps3 media server Eagleman
[19:34] <wN> Pazzie: for exmaple, if you plan on adding more disks to this setup in the future, lvm will allow you to extend the existing file-system over the new disk, increasing the total available space for that 1 volume
[19:34] <Pazzie> wN: what do you mean? with manipulating
[19:34] <wN> see previous example
[19:34] <auronandace> francesco_: it doesn't ask all the time, it uses your previous selection as a default
[19:35] <Pazzie> yes but, i use one disk for one partion
[19:35] <wamicho> how do you change the color of the fonts on unity top panel ?
[19:35] <Chris___> just installed 12.10 x64; how can I switch my desktop manager to gnome? I don't like this default one.
[19:35] <wamicho> Hey  i am new to unity how do you change the color of the fonts on unity top panel ?
[19:36] <Pazzie> let me correct that, if i want to extend my disk, i simply resize the disk in vmware (make it bigger) insteat of adding a new disk
[19:36] <dr_willis> Pazzie:  i dont use lvm for my media server. i just keep my vids sorted onto similer related disks and share them all
[19:36] <sliddjur> Are there any quick button command to switch language with two installed keyboard layouts?
[19:36] <francesco_> auronandace, is it dangerous?
[19:36] <dr_willis> vmware has tools to enlarge vmware disk im ages
[19:36] <auronandace> francesco_: not in the least
[19:36] <wN> Pazzie: in my media server, I have 3 disks. 2x1TB and 1x3TB. I use LVM to make 1x5TB volume
[19:37] <Pazzie> dr_willis: on my windows media server i have now 4 disks that i share in my media server and i want to do the same configuration om my ubuntu machine
[19:37] <wN> [root@hoarder ~]# df -h /storage
[19:37] <wN> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[19:37] <wN> /dev/mapper/storage-lv_data
[19:37] <wN>                       4.5T  2.6T  1.8T  60% /storage
[19:37] <FloodBot1> wN: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:37] <Pazzie> no i dont want that wN
[19:37] <francesco_> auronandace, thank you very much for your advice and for your patience.
[19:37] <dr_willis> Pazzie:  i dont see how vmware figues into this..
[19:37] <Pazzie> and i dont need that, since i have all my data organized allready
[19:37] <auronandace> francesco_: no worries :)
[19:38] <grandemago66> film
[19:38] <wN> Pazzie: if you're not going to be manipulating the storage then you dont need lvm
[19:38] <Pazzie> dr_willis: i have a vmware esx server had home with 16GB of RAM so i have everything virtual at home
[19:38] <dr_willis> i keèp mine organized with a simple directory structure and let xbmc/boxee/plex share them all
[19:38] <wN> i didnt' think i'd fill 2TB as fast as i did. im glad i used lvm so i could just throw 3tb at it and extend the volume.
[19:39] <Troy^> is lvm done during formating of the drive?
[19:39] <Pazzie> dr_willis: i like ps3 media server more, gives my more settings and love the addons
[19:39] <wN> Troy^: yes
[19:39] <GunClive> the package nvidia-current in 12.04 is defect. i read i should add a ppa, which i did. but which package shall i install now? is it still the same name or something from there? https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-x-swat/+archive/x-updates btw i got nvidia gtx 550 ti. thanks
[19:39] <wN> Troy^: it's a layer inbetween the disk and the file-system
[19:40] <gordonjcp> Pazzie: I use minidlna, which is a bit clunky but works fairly well
[19:40] <dr_willis> i just use boxee/plex/xbmc or some of the other dlna/upnp servers like minidlna
[19:40] <Troy^> I love XBMC
[19:40] <dr_willis> minidlna seems to work well to my android tablets
[19:40] <dr_willis> and my xbmb boxs
[19:40] <Eagleman> plex also works very good
[19:40] <Eagleman> there are plex apps
[19:41] <Pazzie> na since i stream everything, i like to be able to add settings like dts, quality settings, speaker setup, can tweak the proccesor usage
[19:41] <wN> xbmc++
[19:42] <Pazzie> and because i also have a ps3, so the same matches more :P
[19:42] <Pazzie> name
[19:42] <Troy^> i absolutely hate the ps3 for streaming
[19:42] <Pazzie> Troy^: i love it
[19:43] <dr_willis> looked at getting a ps3.. never did
[19:43] <Troy^> specially when i like to stream 1080k DTS MKVs over 802.11n
[19:43] <Troy^> 1080P*
[19:43] <Pazzie> i can stream everything with the best quality and the ps3 have dts-hd support and 3d support same as my reciever and tv
[19:44] <Pazzie> and the ps3 is the only console who support those things
[19:45] <Troy^> i had problems with cinavia and other encoding bullcrap. with my HTPC and my ubuntu server it's perfect.
[19:45] <dr_willis> 3d looks totally... like nothing to me. ;)   >0_o<  i squint and look and never see a diff.
[19:45] <hal> woudl someone mind opening this page in firefox on ubuntu 12.04, please? It crashes the whole machine when JS is enabled, although it works fine in chromium
[19:45] <hal> http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2011/01/rsync-exclude-files-and-folders/
[19:46] <dr_willis> impressive when a browseer takes down the os...
[19:46] <hal> yeah
[19:46] <Pazzie> but Troy^  i bought also new network cables and i have everything wired (except my laptop) and that change allot i my internal network speed, after that everyting was perfect, the best quality, and no more hickups
[19:46] <hmavi> ?
[19:46] <hmavi> help
[19:47] <Pazzie> 1080P DTS-HD no problem
[19:47] <Troy^> yea i can do it over 802.11n with my HTPC though..
[19:48] <Pazzie> okay, well i dont use wireless for streaming so i dont have that challence ;)
[19:48] <Troy^> yea ps3 is only 802.11g which really is a big downfall of the ps3
[19:48] <guntbert> !ot
[19:48] <hmavi> exit
[19:49] <Pazzie> i have another question, what size do you recommend for the OS disk? 10GB?
[19:49] <Pazzie> more or less?
[19:49] <Troy^> 10gb is pretty small is your /home/ going to be on there as well?
[19:50] <OerHeks> hal, a quick scan shows no problems with thegeekstuff url. so firefox has a problem then.
[19:50] <Pazzie> yes (i must say i am new to linux)
[19:50] <hal> OerHeks: did you open it in firefox?
[19:50] <Pazzie> i am a windows server guy normaly
[19:50] <Troy^> Pazzie: this is for a desktop correct? I would definietly allocated double that to an install of ubuntu
[19:50] <hal> OerHeks: ubuntu 12.04 and firefox 15.0.1
[19:50] <OerHeks> hal, no, i have no firefox.
[19:50] <Pazzie> Troy^: no its for ubuntu server
[19:51] <Troy^> Pazzie: 10gb is fine then really..
[19:51] <hal> OerHeks: ok, thanks for your response. I am hoping for someone to test it in the same versions I have
[19:51] <guntbert> Pazzie: see https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/installation-guide/hppa/directory-tree.html
[19:52] <guntbert> Pazzie: and https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/directory-tree.html for the current version :)
[19:53] <dr_willis> i have filled up 20gb on / befor. i make m ine at least 30gb these days
[19:53] <dr_willis> but it was due to tmp space mainly ;)
[19:53] <Troy^> dr_willis: it is a server setup
[19:54] <dr_willis> lots of users?  using tmp? doing what?
[19:54] <SillyTalker> any ideas?
[19:54] <SillyTalker> i created .dmrc
[19:54] <SillyTalker> dr_willis: i got rid of unity etc, now i just get the X mouse pointer from X11 on a grey background
[19:54] <Troy^> dr_willis: i assume from him that it is going to be basically his personal server
[19:55] <dr_willis> SillyTalker:  thats about as minimal a desktop as it gets. ;)
[19:55] <guntbert> Pazzie: my "personal server" as Troy^ put it has 10 GB, 2 GB used
[19:56] <dr_willis> SillyTalker:  did you remove lightdm by mistake?
[19:56] <adie_> Hello friends!
[19:56] <shwaiil> hi
[19:56] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: i created .dmrc and got rid of unity
[19:56] <Troy^> guntbert: which makes sense.. right now my server main install and usage is on 2x(80gb) in Raid 1 so i have lots of space
[19:56] <Pazzie_> Troy^: sorry chat hang
[19:57] <Pazzie_> i didnt say what you said to my question
[19:57] <Pazzie_>  i want to do the most through the cli, and i have read also something like installing a core desktop... like gnome-core?
[19:57] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: now it starts but i get a grey screen and the default X mouse pointer of X11
[19:57] <dtcrshr> im strugling for a few weeks now, after the last update on my ubuntu my battery indicator is gone. Is there a way to get it back?
[19:57] <dr_willis> SillyTalker:  got rid of it how...
[19:57] <shwaiil> Im thinking about getting a new laptop with Killer Wireless-N 1102 and intel 520 SSD. Is this compatible with Ubuntu ? I didnt find much info around the web. tks
[19:57] <SillyTalker_> any way i can start lubuntu?
[19:57] <Pazzie_> say = saw ;)
[19:57] <SillyTalker_> i can ssh in
[19:57] <dtcrshr> all other indicators are there. clock, im, wireless
[19:57] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: apt-get remove
[19:58] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: the line the link bazhang gave earlier
[19:58] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: first line here: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purelubuntu
[19:58] <adie_> I am having an issue with 3d acceleration I think. games flicker black and run really crappy, yet I have the official drivers for my gpu. I dunno what to do ><
[19:58] <SillyTalker_> without the linux-headers parts
[19:58] <Pazzie_> Troy^: still here?
[19:58] <Troy^> Pazzie_: yes
[19:59] <guntbert> dtcrshr: goto settings/power settings, there you can select if and when you want the icon to be present
[19:59] <Pazzie_> read my question?
[19:59] <Troy^> ?
[19:59] <Pazzie_>  i want to do the most through the cli, and i have read also something like installing a core desktop... like gnome-core?
[19:59] <compdoc> shwaiil, should be no problem. Seems that wireless card started being supported in Natty Narwhal (11.04).
[19:59] <iNTEl_> i forgot my password
[19:59] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: any ideas?
[20:00] <Troy^> Pazzie_: you should be fine but honestly a server is best headless not gui
[20:00] <iNTEl_> is there someone could help me ?
[20:00] <iNTEl_> ?
[20:00] <guntbert> !password | iNTEl_
[20:00] <shwaiil> compdoc: thanks :) So if I install the latest Ubuntu, it should work without some extra commands etc ?!
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> iNTEl_  the password was 1d10t
[20:00] <dr_willis> SillyTalker_:  not really with your frakenstine android-ubuntu setup. you hsould of just installed lubuntu into your vm fro m the start perhaps.
[20:00] <iNTEl_> ty monkeydust
[20:00] <MonkeyDust> ;)
[20:01] <Pazzie_> thats why i want to do the most through the cli, but i dont know if some things are better to do with the desktop
[20:01] <iNTEl_> that show ur great cooperate
[20:01] <Eagleman> Pazzie_ a GUI has way to much limitations and eats space, if you want to run it as a server run it as a server
[20:01] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: the only thing i need to do now is startlubuntu
[20:01] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: but it complains there's no display when i do this over ssh of course
[20:01] <dr_willis> SillyTalker_:  i would guess the lubuntu session is not there.
[20:01] <hmavi> help
[20:01] <Pazzie_> point taken Eagleman
[20:01] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: but lubuntu-desktop is installed
[20:01] <dr_willis> SillyTalker_:  export your display variable
[20:01] <Pazzie_> :)
[20:01] <Eagleman> you will learn it
[20:02] <Eagleman> i did and i am still learning it
[20:02] <dr_willis> export DISPlAY=localhost:0
[20:02] <Troy^> Pazzie_: things aren't setup via desktop really for most of the things you're going to be setting up on a server. text editor and cli and it is easiest done through ssh where you have a full desktop
[20:02] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: how please?
[20:02] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: ok thanks again :)
[20:02] <Eagleman> linux is made for the CLI
[20:02] <compdoc> shwaiil, thats hard to say. Sometimes things have to be set up, sometimes not. Ive never done it with your system
[20:02] <shwaiil> compdoc: thanks :)
[20:02] <Pazzie_> yes i and its better that way, then your realy learn what your are changing and not just click on something with your mouse ;)
[20:03] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: cannot open display
[20:03] <compdoc> shwaiil, buy another hard drive, and test with that
[20:03] <compdoc> if you want to save windows
[20:03] <shwaiil> compdoc: I wont use windows, I'm just a lil bit worried, because it's so expensive.... :)
[20:03] <Troy^> Pazzie_: most things aren't really going to let you click on things anythings.. like i said most everything in linux is configure/installed and run via cli specially for a server
[20:04] <Troy^> Pazzie_: specially things that are usually put on a server
[20:04] <dr_willis> SillyTalker_:  no idea then.  id reinstall ubuntu-desktop and see if you can get to a lightdm login screen. or just install lubuntu from the start
[20:04] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: i can't just install anything but thanks
[20:04] <Pazzie_> yes and what do you guys recommend for a management server, webmin or ebox (has a new name now)
[20:04] <Pazzie_> or maybe something else
[20:04] <Troy^> SillyTalker_: why can't you install anything?
[20:05] <guntbert> Pazzie_: just do it from the command line
[20:05] <guntbert> !webmin | Pazzie_
[20:05] <dr_willis> SillyTalker_:   which is why i mentioned your setup  mostly likely is some frankenstein  ubuntu variant. ;)
[20:05] <Pazzie_> guntbert: do you also know ebox?
[20:06] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: no but i dunno why the hell they removed the login screen, maybe because VNC wouldnt work with it or something like that
[20:06] <dr_willis> SillyTalker_:  ive seen lubuntu on android vm things. that use  lubuntu from the beginning
[20:06] <SillyTalker_> thats the only nonstandrd thing really
[20:06] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: well i didn't find anything
[20:06] <SillyTalker_> Troy^: i'm running a premade image in a chroot on an android device
[20:06] <Eagleman> Pazzie_ i wouldt recomend a webgui
[20:06] <Nisstyre> For some reason libjpeg62 is not installed as a dependency for racket...yet it requires it to run
[20:06] <Nisstyre> bug?
[20:06] <guntbert> Pazzie_: I treid it once and removed it almost immediately - not my taste - CLI is better in my opinion
[20:06] <guntbert> *tried
[20:06] <Eagleman> i''ve been there to, also to much limitations
[20:07] <W00D> Hello everyone
[20:07] <W00D> Anyone around?
[20:07] <W00D> I need some help
[20:07] <W00D> :)
[20:07] <XiaolinDraconis> Hello Buntu
[20:07] <FloodBot1> W00D: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:07] <Eagleman> !ask W00D
[20:07] <guntbert> Pazzie_: if you want to learn managing a server DO IT :)
[20:07] <W00D> I am attempting to use tomcat and apache2 at the same time
[20:07] <silverslimer> ubuntu, you are the best os. FINALLY, a linux that allows me to put my computer to sleep
[20:07] <MonkeyDust> W00D  start with a question
[20:07] <W00D> I'd like to have tomcat run on port80
[20:08] <W00D> under somthing like this: sub.domain.com
[20:08] <Pazzie_> okay... thnx haha i am going to install ubuntu, 10gb is bigg enough for my OS disk?
[20:08] <MonkeyDust> W00D  betterstate your issue in one line
[20:08] <lanoxx> W00D, just put the domain name into /etc/hosts
[20:08] <Eagleman> Pazzie_ it will get larger the more you need ofc, it depends on your needs
[20:08] <Troy^> Pazzie_: yes https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/index.html <-- great guide for getting started with ubuntu server
[20:09] <W00D> My issue is that the default webapp dir is /var/lib/tomcat(version)/webapps/ROOT
[20:09] <Eagleman> i am on a 60gb ssd and i still got 5 gb of space left
[20:09] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: i've seen people that use ubuntu1204-v4-small but it doesnt work at all, you cant even start a temrinal on it
[20:09] <W00D> Thanks Troy
[20:09] <XiaolinDraconis> I'm having trouble with unity quicklists, can't figure out how to get separate profiles in there.
[20:09] <W00D> I need tomcat to run on /var/default/sub.domain.com
[20:09] <W00D> the only thing I can thing of running iptables and port forward
[20:10] <dr_willis> SillyTalker_:  if its using vnc you have .vnc/xconfig to define what desktop to use.
[20:10] <iNTEl_> i didn't woked
[20:10] <iNTEl_> am still can't access
[20:10] <iNTEl_> the option i have is to use guest
[20:10] <iNTEl_> but its so limited
[20:11] <W00D> I'm new to this irssi so I don't know how to PM
[20:11] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: aha, well i'll look into that, i already deleted the image so.... too late
[20:11] <SillyTalker_> gotta start over
[20:11] <dr_willis> SillyTalker_:  basically you need to get help/support from the app/image maker. since our advice here assums you are on a normal pc
[20:11] <W00D> but if you can PM I would appreciate it
[20:11] <iNTEl_> dr_willis , can u help me ?
[20:11] <greenit> hi, i have a program (a bin-file) which starts java... well, now i want to get the pid of the java-process to kill it, does any1 know how to get the java-process, which is started via a bin-file?
[20:11] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: yeah the problem is they don't know wither :p
[20:11] <SillyTalker_> lol
[20:11] <SillyTalker_> *either
[20:11] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: anyway thanks i'll look at that this could be it...
[20:12] <W00D> ps aux | grep java
[20:12] <XiaolinDraconis> http://pastebin.com/tQeAg1Vs
[20:12] <iNTEl_> i forgot my password and i can't access to my acc
[20:12] <XiaolinDraconis> not working
[20:12] <dr_willis> SillyTalker_:  all those vm things ive seen  use vnc so its setup/changed that way.
[20:12] <W00D> !greenit ps aux | grep java
[20:12] <iNTEl_> i can access from the guest mode
[20:12] <SillyTalker_> dr_willis: yeah it definitely uses vnc
[20:12] <dr_willis> iNTEl_:  use live cd and set a new password.
[20:12] <iNTEl_> can i ?
[20:13] <dr_willis> iNTEl_:  or recovery mode
[20:13] <iNTEl_> could u just give me insturction ?
[20:13] <iNTEl_> k
[20:13] <dr_willis> assuming you are not using an encrypted home
[20:13] <iNTEl_> so how can i use recovery mode
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> iNTEl_, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[20:13] <W00D> help!
[20:13] <W00D> !help
[20:13] <dr_willis> select recovery/rescu at the grub menu..   sudo passwd username
[20:13] <iNTEl_> wille-nilee : ty
[20:13] <W00D> ?
[20:14] <W00D> disconnect
[20:14] <XiaolinDraconis> I can haz internetz?
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> iNTEl_, should work, no problem.
[20:14] <dr_willis> W00D:  most people have you on ignore now i imagine
[20:14] <iNTEl_> wilee-nilee : i think its perfect , thanks for help
[20:15] <Eagleman> What happend to /etc/ssh/sshd_config ? I''ve made documentation but the file does not exist anymore
[20:15] <dr_willis> !find sshd_config
[20:16] <greenit> W00D, yeah, that would work, but i want to start / stop it via a script, which starts the bin-file. i need to kill the bin file, which i get the pid from, and the java-process, but not all java processes, only the one which is started
[20:16] <dr_willis> you installed openssh-server ?
[20:16] <Eagleman> i am on puty and use sftp in filezilla
[20:16] <Eagleman> so i think yes
[20:16] <W00D> ok back
[20:16] <W00D> phew
[20:16] <W00D> had a littl trouble
[20:16] <XiaolinDraconis> Unity quicklist has failed me, http://pastebin.com/tQeAg1Vs anyone know whats wrong?
[20:16] <dr_willis> double check
[20:16] <Pazzie_> do you guys recommend automatic updates or not? or just security updates?
[20:16] <edve> hello ppl
[20:16] <XiaolinDraconis> hello
[20:17] <Eagleman> How can i see it?
[20:17] <Pazzie_> i dont know if it is the same with windows that the system then also automaticly reboots?
[20:17] <Eagleman> dkpg something?
[20:17] <edve> im currrently running openbox and actually it is smotth as helll
[20:17] <Pazzie_> Eagleman:
[20:17] <wilee-nilee> Pazzie_, I recommend turkish coffe and a scone, but take all updates.
[20:17] <XiaolinDraconis> Pazzie_, i use them and sometimes the system does need a restart, not always
[20:18] <Eagleman> Pazzie_ linux is made to restart services, actually you never have to reboot
[20:18] <rennason> hi
[20:18] <Eagleman> Only when ur upgrading the kernel
[20:18] <rennason> can you help me?
[20:18] <Pazzie_> Eagleman: so automatic updates then?
[20:18] <Eagleman> i never worked with them
[20:18] <Eagleman> basicly i log in from time to time and update myself
[20:18] <Pazzie_> what did you used?
[20:18] <XiaolinDraconis> rennason, the correct format is, Hi, my problem is.
[20:18] <Pazzie_> aah
[20:19] <Eagleman> when you log in you will see there are updates
[20:19] <Pazzie_> thats maybe better
[20:19] <rennason> excuse me XiaolinDraconis
[20:19] <Pazzie_> more in control
[20:19] <rennason> i am brazilian
[20:19] <rennason> Hi, my problem is with PXE
[20:19] <XiaolinDraconis> rennason, pleasantries seemed frowned upon, only because theres usually a lot going on
[20:20] <Eagleman> Pazzie_ this is what you see when you login:  http://pastebin.com/MqpBmr4d
[20:20] <XiaolinDraconis> rennason, now the question
[20:20] <Eagleman> How do i check if i have openssh server installed?
[20:21] <Pazzie_> Eagleman: yes but i dont see anything about the updates,.. or does it only show if there are any
[20:21] <MonkeyDust> Eagleman  apt-cache policy openssh-server
[20:21] <Eagleman> Installed: 1:5.9p1-5ubuntu1
[20:21] <Eagleman> Pazzie_ it will show beneath that text, if there are updates
[20:22] <Eagleman> But dont pay to much attention to updates
[20:22] <adie> unity freezes unless I start in 2dubuntu, but my gpu shows hardware acceleration and all that good stuff... any ideas on what I should do?
[20:22] <Eagleman> !find /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[20:22] <Eagleman> !find sshd_config
[20:22] <jrib> Eagleman: what are you looking for?
[20:22] <Eagleman> So why do i not have that file?
[20:22] <jrib> Eagleman: maybe you deleted it?
[20:22] <Eagleman> ./etc/ssh/sshd_config dissapeared
[20:22] <Eagleman> no
[20:23] <Eagleman> becuase things in that file are still working like sftp chroot
[20:23] <jrib> Eagleman: it's not "./etc/ssh/sshd_config", it's "/etc/ssh/sshd_config"
[20:23] <Eagleman> serious jrib
[20:23] <jrib> Eagleman: are you looking in the right place?
[20:23] <Eagleman> try to copy something with / infront of your sentence
[20:23] <AquaVulture> Right, umm.. idk what to do :/.
[20:24] <AquaVulture> http://prntscr.com/fdim4
[20:24] <AquaVulture> Un-installed and re-installed and got the same problem.
[20:24] <jrib> /like this?
[20:24] <XiaolinDraconis> Help with quicklists? I've been through google and can't find anything.
[20:24] <Eagleman> well you used a space i used a .
[20:24] <jrib> Eagleman: nope :/  Anyway, that's not important.  You have no idea why you are missing that file?  What ubuntu version?  (please answer both questions)
[20:25] <Eagleman> nbo idea 12.04
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> AquaVulture, maybe a dual boot would serve you better.
[20:25] <iNTEl_> wilee-nilee : its didn't work
[20:25] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/sAH4iA6W
[20:25] <AquaVulture> That's what I am trying to create.
[20:25] <AquaVulture> I have the .iso but :/
[20:25] <XiaolinDraconis> Cannot figure out why this won't work. http://pastebin.com/tQeAg1Vs
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> iNTEl_, Hmm, to bad never had to use it mtself, I wonder if you followed the directs exactly is my only help really.
[20:26] <jrib> Eagleman: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" --reinstall install openssh-server
[20:26] <wilee-nilee> !pm > iNTEl_
[20:26] <Marco99> hello all
[20:26] <camaro> hi marco
[20:26] <iNTEl_> i saw it
[20:26] <iNTEl_> its k
[20:26] <iNTEl_> am srr ubottu
[20:26] <Eagleman> command not working
[20:27] <Marco99> what about this message error in installing kernel patch :
[20:27] <iNTEl_> wilee-nilee : should i do all the steps
[20:27] <Marco99> root@pabl0-desktop:~/compat-wireless-2010-10-16# make
[20:27] <Marco99> /root/compat-wireless-2010-10-16/config.mk:196: "WARNING: CONFIG_CFG80211_WEXT will be deactivated or not working because kernel was compiled with CONFIG_WIRELESS_EXT=n. Tools using wext interface like iwconfig will not work. To activate it build your kernel e.g. with CONFIG_LIBIPW=m."
[20:27] <Marco99> ./scripts/gen-compat-autoconf.sh config.mk > include/linux/compat_autoconf.h
[20:27] <Marco99> make -C /lib/modules/2.6.38-15-generic/build M=/root/compat-wireless-2010-10-16 modules
[20:27] <FloodBot1> Marco99: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:27] <wilee-nilee> iNTEl_, personally I don't pm's and really are not your best help altogether. ;)
[20:27] <jrib> Eagleman: you're being too vague
[20:27] <Eagleman> http://pastebin.com/kviQ7zTD
[20:27] <Marco99> hi
[20:27] <W00D> Ok
[20:28] <iNTEl_> wilee-nilee , there is a step its changing the user name
[20:28] <W00D> Anyone know any good tomcat resources / docs for tomcat7 jklib connector
[20:28] <iNTEl_> should i make it ?
[20:28] <greenit> i have a script, which starts and stops a bin-file. this file is executing a java-process... i get the pid of the bin-file, but not of the java-process and i don't want to kill all java-processes... how can i get the pid of the started java-process?
[20:28] <wilee-nilee> iNTEl_, as far as all the steps follow the directions would be your only method, you are trying to change the password.
[20:28] <iNTEl_> wilee-nilee : can u give me the same link , srr
[20:28] <AquaVulture> So what can I do to dual-boot? I used a flash drive to try and boot but it doesn't seem to want to work :/. Was trying to create a dual-boot.
[20:28] <iNTEl_> ya i changed it
[20:29] <Marco99> hello
[20:29] <iNTEl_> and the root told me that the pass changed succesfully
[20:29] <jrib> Eagleman: this channel is not for support with development versions of ubuntu
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> iNTEl_, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[20:29] <Eagleman> development versions what?
[20:29] <W00D> AquaVulter!  Look into editing grub
[20:30] <Eagleman> I dont even know how to develop lol
[20:30] <jrib> Eagleman: never mind, I misread.  In any case, you have repository issues you need to sort out first
[20:30] <W00D> google: edit grub disk
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> AquaVulture, You mean you can't biit the flash?
[20:30] <wilee-nilee> boot*
[20:31] <Jordan_U> AquaVulture: I would highly recommend doing a normal dual boot install, booting from CD/USB and using Ubuntu's normal installer, rather than using Wubi.
[20:31] <Eagleman> i''ve installed some things lately but it is hard to rid of them
[20:31] <Eagleman> I will do a clean install soon
[20:31] <Eagleman> Thanks anyway
[20:31] <strombom> Hi, where can I find out how to start a gui program as root/sudo automatically after login?
[20:31] <strombom> I have tried for five hours >_<
[20:32] <jrib> strombom: what program?
[20:32] <guntbert> strombom: you really don't want to do that!
[20:32] <strombom> i really want to do that
[20:32] <strombom> a SDL animation that i wrote
[20:32] <strombom> its on an embedded platform, i don't care about security issues
[20:32] <dr_willis> strombom:  a script in your .config/autostart directory
[20:32] <strombom> but it needs to access hardware so i need root
[20:32] <strombom> config/autostart, thanks i will check!
[20:33] <dr_willis>  .config
[20:33] <XiaolinDraconis> http://pastebin.com/tQeAg1Vs    anyone got an idea why this is not working?
[20:33] <dr_willis> or was it .local
[20:33] <jrib> dr_willis: ~/.config/autostart/
[20:33]  * jrib considers creating a bind (including the dr_willis part)
[20:34] <jrib> ;)
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, YOu trying to make a desktop launcher?
[20:34] <dr_willis> they need to link it to a dir in home. :)
[20:35] <dr_willis>   /home/billgates/Autostart  ')
[20:36] <strombom> it seems like the "startup applicatinos" goes to that dir; .config/autostart, so unfortunately i have already tried
[20:36] <strombom> i added "Exec=gksudo /home/ro/src/exhibit_robot"
[20:36] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, i am trying to make a sidebar quicklist
[20:36] <dr_willis> strombom:  id say you did it wrong then
[20:36] <strombom> and added  /home/ro/src/exhibit_robot to the sudoers file (which seems to work)
[20:36] <strombom> ok
[20:37] <dr_willis> just use a bash script thats executable perhaps
[20:37] <silverslimer> my god, ubuntu + faenza icons + my unity (to make sure only active icons get the background colour) = heaven
[20:37] <strombom> i tried that and got it booting once :) but not always, i'm going crazy
[20:37] <XiaolinDraconis> i wish azenis icons would get updated
[20:37] <dr_willis> put a delay in the script  sleep 20
[20:37] <silverslimer> hmmm, what do azenis look like?
[20:38] <eltigre> hey, can someone help me figure out why my dvd drive isn't working on ubuntu?
[20:38] <strombom> dr_willis: thanks i will try
[20:38] <dr_willis> at the top
[20:38] <dr_willis> bbl
[20:38] <XiaolinDraconis> silverslimer, a dark black and blue
[20:38] <silverslimer> oh wow
[20:38] <silverslimer> looks nice
[20:38] <OerHeks> !work | eltigre
[20:39] <silverslimer> i've always like buuf but it doesn't look right in ubuntu
[20:39] <eltigre> my dvd drive worked when I installed ubuntu... now it doesn't show up /dev/, all connectors seem to be ok...
[20:39] <ComputeristGeek> Hello, how can I log someone into an account remotely through command line
[20:39] <ComputeristGeek> ?
[20:39] <Eagleman> For what do i need the execute permissions in a home folder?
[20:40] <auronandace> !ssh | ComputeristGeek
[20:40] <ComputeristGeek> I know ssh
[20:40] <jrib> Eagleman: execute permissions on directories let you "enter" the directory basically
[20:40] <wilee-nilee> XiaolinDraconis, This might help overall since you seem to be making your own I assume on unity. http://developer.ubuntu.com/resources/technologies/launcher/
[20:40] <Eagleman> jrex i;ve got 750 <5> but i can still enter a folder
[20:40] <ComputeristGeek> I do not know how to manipulate the GUI display when no one logged in
[20:40] <eltigre> so noone can help me because I used the wrong word for "not showing up in /dev/ or mountable drives"?
[20:41] <GunArm> are all lampp packages insecure and made for internal testing? or is that just xampp?
[20:41] <gordonjcp> !ask | eltigre
[20:41] <gordonjcp> eltigre: sorry, mistab
[20:41] <jrib> GunArm: it's recommended you use the repository packages for apache, php, and mysql (see ubottu)
[20:41] <gordonjcp> eltigre: what was your problem/
[20:41] <jrib> !lamp > GunArm
[20:41] <XiaolinDraconis> wilee-nilee, thanks ill have a look, heres to hoping i understand ;)
[20:42] <auronandace> eltigre: have you tried putting something in the drive to see if it is detected
[20:42] <eltigre> gordonjcp, my dvd ceased to work. It doesn't show up in mountable drives and I have no /dev/cdrom  or dvd etc
[20:42] <eltigre> auronandace, yes
[20:42] <eltigre> auronandace, and the ejection mechanism works
[20:43] <eltigre> even with the eject command on the shell I can eject it
[20:43] <gordonjcp> eltigre: wonder if you can get eject to say what it's actually talking to?
[20:44] <ComputeristGeek> I can lock a computer remotely and get it back using the gnome-screensaver-command, but how can I do the same with the actual login
[20:44] <mario_> hey The action would require the installation of packages from not authenticated sources
[20:44] <drag0nius> is there some "media center" compilation of ubuntu?
[20:44] <mario_> when i try update
[20:44] <gordonjcp> eltigre: what does "eject -v" tell you?
[20:44] <auronandace> eltigre: what is the output of ls -a /dev/
[20:44] <Nisstyre> drag0nius: mythbuntu
[20:44] <Guest37895> hello, im trying to connect a sata ssd hard drive to an old ide motherboard but live cd just work for a few seconds before it crashes when the ssd hard drive is connected. what can i do?
[20:44] <eltigre> the funny thing is when I say mount /dev/sr0 /media/dvd then it says there's no medium in sr0
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> mario_, run a update from the terminal and look for misssing keys
[20:45] <mario_> with apt-get update?
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> mario_, yeah with a sudo
[20:45] <Nisstyre> eltigre: I'm a bit new to ubuntu, but /dev/dvd /dev/cdrom, etc... are usually symlinks to /dev/sr0 no?
[20:45] <mario_> ok ty
[20:45] <W00D> I like apttitude much better
[20:45] <W00D> ^_^
[20:45] <strombom> is there some way to move or hide the mouse pointer (without any physical pointer device)?
[20:45] <eltigre> I do have /dev/cdrom  and /dev/cdrw
[20:46] <eltigre> I can't mount it though
[20:46] <Nisstyre> eltigre: what does mount tell you?
[20:46] <eltigre> Nisstyre, "no medium in /dev/sr0"
[20:46] <eltigre> and yes, I did insert a disk
[20:46] <Nisstyre> eltigre: have you tried it with another disc?
[20:46] <eltigre> multiple one
[20:46] <Nisstyre> eltigre: okay, and are there errors in dmesg?
[20:47] <khadea> hi
[20:47] <strombom> hi
[20:47] <marcappuccino> hello
[20:47] <khadea> how are u
[20:47] <Nisstyre> eltigre: paste the output of dmesg | tail -n 50 to ideone.com or pastie.org
[20:47] <Nisstyre> (or whatever your preferred paste service is)
[20:47] <khadea> bored
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> mario_, if a key is shown run this to set it  sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "missing key"
[20:48] <eltigre> Nisstyre, hm that won't work because it shows too many wlan messages... do you know a way to filter them out?
[20:48] <Nisstyre> eltigre: you can use sed for that
[20:48] <Guest37895> hello, im trying to connect a sata ssd hard drive to an old ide motherboard but live cd just work for a few seconds before it crashes when the ssd hard drive is connected. what can i do?
[20:49] <Nisstyre> eltigre: sed s/wlan/d/
[20:49] <marcappuccino> sata cabe is used via a ide adapter?
[20:50] <Nisstyre> er, that won't work though
[20:50] <Nisstyre> you want to delete the whole line
[20:50] <Jordan_U> Nisstyre: I've missed most of the conversation, but how does replacing the word "wlan" with the letter "d" help anything?
[20:50] <eltigre> Nisstyre, sorry that just deletes a word in those lines, not the lines itself
[20:50] <ohzie> If I used dm-crypt and have a separate /boot partition, is grub on the /boot partition or is it in my mbr?
[20:50] <eltigre> I need some "inverse grep"
[20:50] <Jordan_U> eltigre: grep -v wlan
[20:51] <adoniscik> How do you resolve "unmet dependencies" on an install? I get
[20:51] <adoniscik> > unity-dictionary-lens : Depends: unity-singlet (>= 0.2.0) but it is not installable
[20:51] <mario_> wilee-nilee,   Failed to fetch http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise-updates/universe/i18n/Translation-en  Unable to connect to 173.224.120.70:8118:
[20:51] <MsSayian> hey guys i just updated via my package manager now im getting this error. CRTC 72: trying mode 1280x720@0Hz with output at 1920x1200@51Hz (pass 0)
[20:51] <Jordan_U> ohzie: Grub's boot sector should always be installed to the MBR>
[20:51] <mario_> i have several failed to fetch
[20:51] <adoniscik> Can someone show me how to install unity-singlet?
[20:51] <eltigre> then there is no output
[20:51] <ohzie> Jordan_U: Okay, what's the best way to make it not on the MBR.
[20:51] <Pazzie_> anyone... if i run sudo apt-get upgrade, i see that there are updates held back, like linux-server, linux-headers-server and linux-image-server
[20:51] <lder> hi, i'm trying to install a 10.04 server and it keeps seeing a usb0 device and configuring that.  is there a way to disable a network device via boot options?
[20:52] <Jordan_U> ohzie: Why do you not want it in the MBR? That's where it *should* go.
[20:52] <Pazzie_> kept
[20:52] <marcappuccino> Pazzie_ sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[20:52] <MsSayian> eltigre im running it on my laptop, and before i updated it was running fine at that resolution
[20:52] <ohzie> Jordan_U: I need grub to be secondary, because I'm multibooted and I'm trying to truecrypt my windows system partition.
[20:52] <eltigre> MsSayian, xchat's tabcompletion isn't really that great ;-)
[20:53] <eltigre> I guess the dvd drive is somehow fried or something
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> mario_, might be the server might just be nothing is there new, failed fetches are common, the original notice is a generic one at times.
[20:53] <Pazzie_> marcappuccino: what is the dist- part? distrubution?
[20:53] <Nisstyre> Jordan_U: I meant to type sed /wlan/d
[20:53] <marcappuccino> Pazzie_ it does not upgr the distro, only the held back parts, dont worry
[20:54] <MsSayian> so theres nothing i can do to get my display back to its old setting because im stuck at 1280x760 and i was at 1920x1200
[20:54] <marcappuccino> i assume it stands for distribution though
[20:54] <Pazzie_> marcappuccino: just a question, why are there updates held back?
[20:54] <eltigre> Jordan_U, Nisstyre thanks anyway...
[20:55] <Nisstyre> eltigre: anyway, did you paste it?
[20:55] <MsSayian> eltigre: so theres nothing i can do to get my display back to its old setting because im stuck at 1280x760 and i was at 1920x1200
[20:55] <eltigre> Nisstyre, there is nothing to paste
[20:55] <Nisstyre> eltigre: there is _nothing_ related to your disc drive in there?
[20:55] <Nisstyre> eltigre: I find that hard to believe
[20:55] <marcappuccino> i beleive it has something to do with being too much weight or something for a regular upgrade, update manager includes the new kernels anyway...
[20:55] <eltigre> Nisstyre, yes
[20:56] <eltigre> Nisstyre, if I grep out the wlan stuff, nothing is left except one crash report on flight gear
[20:57] <drag0nius> how can i change ubuntu menus language?
[20:57] <drag0nius> i've installed second language but it's grayed out under  Language tab
[20:58] <Nisstyre> eltigre: have you ruled out hardware failure?
[20:58] <drag0nius> ohh i drag em top
[20:58] <eltigre> Nisstyre, not completely
[20:58] <Jordan_U> ohzie: Truecrypt has a non-Free (and pretty poor) license, and is a pain to install in a *reliable and secure* dual boot fashion. You can use manual partitioning in Ubuntu's installer and it will give you the option to install grub to the PBR of your ext4 partition, but this is unreliable and insecure (with any bootloader). You can also install grub to the MBR and reliably load Truecrypt from grub, but I unfortunately don
[20:58] <Jordan_U> ohzie: ... don't have time to explain how to do that at the moment.
[20:58] <OerHeks> eltigre, if you installed ubuntu with it, it should be oke. what disc did you insert ? try ubuntu iso
[20:58] <Nisstyre> eltigre: well, can you try using the disc drive with another machine?
[20:59] <eltigre> Nisstyre, and I don't have access to another pc that would take the drive or another operating system to try it in
[20:59] <Nisstyre> ah okay
[20:59] <Nisstyre> eltigre: did it work previously?
[20:59] <eltigre> OerHeks, the installation was alsmost 2 years ago... I don't remember if I used it since...
[20:59] <eltigre> I don't think so though
[20:59] <eltigre> oh wait yes I did
[20:59] <Nisstyre> eltigre: sounds like it's failing
[21:00] <crc32> what is the package and repository for freetype2 with ubuntu 12.04. I can't seem to find it.
[21:00] <eltigre> Nisstyre, yes probably
[21:01] <greenit> i installed lubuntu / kubuntu / xubuntu -desktop, but now the splash-screen is the kubuntu-standard... how can i set it back to ubuntu-standard?
[21:01] <ohzie> Jordan_U: Thanks!
[21:02] <Jordan_U> ohzie: You're welcome.
[21:02] <W00D> exit
[21:02] <Nisstyre> ohzie: avoid using truecrypt for FDE (Full Disk Encryption) on Linux, it won't really work
[21:03] <Nisstyre> and isn't designed to work anyway
[21:03] <MsSayian_> im a try to shutdown my computer and do a hard restart if not im a delete monitors.xml and see what happens this is to zoomed in for me
[21:04] <XiaolinDraconis> horrible fails
[21:05] <XiaolinDraconis> guess i need to post a new topic to askubuntu.com
[21:08] <tarwich1> tty2 keeps blanking on me (presumably because there is a display open on tty7?). I don't know where to start or what to ask. I've tried setterm -powersave off and I get setterm: cannot (un)set powersave mode: Invalid argument
[21:08] <slackwareisbette> karamel4e slackwareisbette Jeepbeats smerz Joonake LASTofS- tamatar Squarepy karakedi XiaolinDraconis mevvis madLyfe james-ubc debsan_ MsSayian_ ueliw0 crc32 |oop ch33z bandeira drag0nius fadfadfsa Phaba_ phenom duhh maletor clouder`grr fbernier lder freedomrun mylowx adoniscik kushal_kumaran themill SkippersBoss hellp DigiDaz LikeLakers2 jasonwert huesos nathandim b1tgl0w mario_ bmatschullat sn
[21:08] <slackwareisbette> wh Donato11 Guest66196 tarwich1 mtrd` giddob_
[21:08] <slackwareisbette> * Users on #ubuntu: average_drifter aperson jincreator nuclearbob bustacap hmavi antonio_stavropo thunderstrike s1w__124 ssam JayWalker zach_mtu_ s1w__646 Pinehead gdbye S0lo vexus wgas rcxdude bapa s1w__314 tiagoscd GEEGEEGEEE HiggsPossum wilee-nilee sign xangua marrusl Solet Borgso mongy Spiralmatrix trez glebihan dzragon vinithra s1w__363 brax 16SABYIT0 mircolillo Visual` PhilSliderS ni1s s1w
[21:08] <FloodBot1> slackwareisbette: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:09] <tarwich1> Does anyone know how to keep tty2 from sleeping when I'm logged into the desktop on tty7
[21:09] <slackwareisbette> !info
[21:10] <slackwareisbette> karamel4e slackwareisbette Jeepbeats smerz Joonake LASTofS- tamatar Squarepy karakedi XiaolinDraconis mevvis madLyfe james-ubc debsan_ MsSayian_ ueliw0 crc32 |oop ch33z bandeira drag0nius fadfadfsa Phaba_ phenom duhh maletor clouder`grr fbernier lder freedomrun mylowx adoniscik kushal_kumaran themill SkippersBoss hellp DigiDaz LikeLakers2 jasonwert huesos nathandim b1tgl0w mario_ bmatschullat sn
[21:10] <slackwareisbette> wh Donato11 Guest66196 tarwich1 mtrd` giddob_
[21:10] <slackwareisbette> * Users on #ubuntu: average_drifter aperson jincreator nuclearbob bustacap hmavi antonio_stavropo thunderstrike s1w__124 ssam JayWalker zach_mtu_ s1w__646 Pinehead gdbye S0lo vexus wgas rcxdude bapa s1w__314 tiagoscd GEEGEEGEEE HiggsPossum wilee-nilee sign xangua marrusl Solet Borgso mongy Spiralmatrix trez glebihan dzragon vinithra s1w__363 brax 16SABYIT0 mircolillo Visual` PhilSliderS ni1s s1w
[21:10] <black_13> when you make an install of ubunto can you save all the installation steps that you took to a preseed file?
[21:10] <FloodBot1> slackwareisbette: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:10] <marcappuccino> can we kick people on irc?
[21:11] <auronandace> marcappuccino: only ops can, but feel free to use /ignore
[21:11] <smerz> not us ourselves. but heck that one should be kicked hehe. or IP banned
[21:11] <silverslimer> lol @ slackware is better
[21:11] <silverslimer> no it's not
[21:11] <marcappuccino> ok lol
[21:11] <silverslimer> just the help available for ubuntu makes it the best
[21:11] <smerz> for xchat type /ignore slackwareisbette!*@* CHAN NOSAVE
[21:12] <Fuchs> an ignore on the nick is usually not working for very long, just as a sidenote
[21:13] <bustacap> Is there a way to add syntax highlighting for smali into gedit?
[21:13] <marcappuccino>   
[21:14] <marcappuccino> !ubuntu
[21:16] <tamatar> bustacap, no idea how to do it for gedit, but here's one for vim if it helps at all: http://codetastrophe.com/smali.vim
[21:17] <bustacap> tamatar, thanks. I'll look into it.
[21:17] <black_13> can a preseed file be used with the desktop linux or is it only with the alternate installer
[21:17] <Russianeer> sup guys
[21:17] <cc210> I have a question a friend has an old dell computer had ubuntu 11.04 installed on it. Now when he boots it up it says grub error and can not for the life of him get another cd to boot any sugestions
[21:17] <marcappuccino> bye everyone
[21:17] <silverslimer> cc210: is usb bootable on the laptop?
[21:17] <ska> Does dpkg-statoveride --remove command restore the command to its original status?
[21:18] <wellwhy> Is anyone available to help installation wise?
[21:18] <cc210> yeah i sent the link for the universal usb he is saying he can not get that to work either
[21:19] <wellwhy> I am having a boot problem saying "wubildr.mbr" is missing. But in fact, it is NOT missing, I have it, and it is in C:/ as well. I have tried a USB and easy windows partition install. I have an HP Pavilion desktop
[21:20] <silverslimer> cc210: time to wait for a professional to help then.
[21:20] <wellwhy> silverslime, could you help with my problem?
[21:20] <cc210> lol didn't want to drive over there guess i will have to just to make sure
[21:21] <wellwhy> can ANYONE help?
[21:21] <wellwhy> >.>
[21:22] <tamatar> bustacap, was just having a look at the gedit lang spec docs, turns out it's a fairly simple XML format. If you have the time/motivation you could convert the vim file to a gedit syntax file. http://developer.gnome.org/gtksourceview/stable/lang-tutorial.html
[21:22] <wellwhy> tamatar
[21:22] <OerHeks> wellwhy, wubi install .. hard to support.
[21:22] <wellwhy> what do you mean?
[21:23] <wellwhy> is there a way to install ubuntu that isnt wubi? I am a linux newbie
[21:23] <wellwhy> maybe something else can do the job
[21:24] <Nisstyre> wellwhy: yes, you  can boot from a CD, DVD, usb drive, etc..
[21:24] <cc210> >wellwhy did you install it inside windows
[21:24] <DJRWolf> I put a dvd in my optical drive and I don't see it on my drive list, am I missing a step here?
[21:24] <wellwhy> I have installed it inside windows yes
[21:24] <goddard> who needs netflix when you have amazon prime
[21:24] <wellwhy> And I have done it on a USB
[21:24] <wellwhy> Both have given the same problem
[21:24] <Nisstyre> DJRWolf: you have to change the boot priority in your BIOS settings
[21:24] <jrib> wellwhy: wubi installs ubuntu to a file in windows.  You can choose to instead install ubuntu to its own partition
[21:24] <Nisstyre> er
[21:24] <Nisstyre> wellwhy
[21:24] <wellwhy> YEs
[21:24] <Nisstyre> not DJRWolf
[21:25] <wellwhy> I have used wubi to install to a usb, is this not correct?
[21:25] <XiaolinDraconis> i installed my Ubuntu via usb, went to pendrive linux from windows and installed ubuntu to a thumb drive booted that and then installed from there
[21:25] <cc210> try booting from the disk or usb then you can either install it along side windows or replace windows
[21:25] <wellwhy> I have also tried putting an iso on the usb
[21:25] <DJRWolf> Nisstyre not to boot from, trying to get Civ4 on PlayOnLinux and I don't see the disk/drive for my optical
[21:25] <wellwhy> I boot with the usb but it says the file is missing
[21:25] <Nisstyre> DJRWolf: yeah, my bad, I meant to highlight wellwhy, not you
[21:26] <wellwhy> or goes into this weird code loop
[21:26] <DJRWolf> Nisstyre ok
[21:26] <XiaolinDraconis> wellwhy, what method did you use to get it on usb
[21:26] <Nisstyre> wellwhy: I suspect you just put the .iso file on the usb drive
[21:26] <wellwhy> I have tried using an ISO to install it, just put the iso in
[21:26] <Nisstyre> wellwhy: that won't work
[21:26] <wellwhy> And using easy windows install
[21:26] <wellwhy> But Im guessing that wont work either
[21:26] <wellwhy> for it uses wubi
[21:26] <Nisstyre> wellwhy: use a program such as unetbootin to create a bootable usb drive
[21:27] <wellwhy> what should i do if I use easy windows install in windows but it still continues to give me the wubildr.mbr error?
[21:27] <cc210> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/ use this set bios to boot from usb then but into live disk
[21:27] <XiaolinDraconis> wellwhy, http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/
[21:27] <XiaolinDraconis> lols
[21:27] <wellwhy> alright ill try that
[21:28] <wellwhy> wait, will unetbootin just make the ubuntu file in my flashdrive? Because that is what I have
[21:28] <wellwhy> then it goes into others but its a wubi based install, is wubi only for windows, not USB?
[21:28] <cc210> unetbootin sucks with windows for some reason
[21:28] <IdleOne> wellwhy: correct
[21:28] <IdleOne> !USB | wellwhy
[21:28] <wellwhy> alright
[21:28] <Nisstyre> cc210: wfm on linux
[21:29] <XiaolinDraconis> http://askubuntu.com/q/186730/89012
[21:30] <d00durk00l> I have a large file 3.2gb that I wish to send to a friend (I don't have a addy to send it to via snailmail).  I am looking to scp a file to him but he is using a Win7 box.. I was thinking of using winspc but I don't want to setup a server that he can access all of my files.. What is the easyiest way to do this so I can just send him the file and he can't access anything else without screwing around with permission or opening a new
[21:30] <d00durk00l> account?
[21:30] <Kamilion_> This is driving me nuts -- i've been trying to debug a cron job for over an hour -- it's a oneliner shellscript that runs something else and appends to a log -- but somehow when run from cron it doesn't work at all, nothing is getting appended
[21:30] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: you can setup sftp such that only one directory is accessible no?
[21:30] <Steve^> Kamilion_, what directory is it running in?
[21:30] <Kamilion_> i can see in /var/log/syslog that it's trying to execute the command
[21:31] <d00durk00l> true...
[21:31] <Kamilion_> Steve^: crontab -e from a user, script is in ~/powerwatch/power_mgr.sh, trying to write to ~/powerwatch/power_mgr.log
[21:31] <d00durk00l> I have just never done that
[21:31] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: so just do that
[21:31] <IdleOne> d00durk00l: have them connect to irc and DCC it to them. You could also use teamviewer
[21:31] <Kamilion_> the path is hardcoded in crontab -e
[21:31] <Steve^> Kamilion_, any ~ in the crontab? they can cause issues
[21:31] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: google gives me this: http://superuser.com/questions/443640/whats-missing-from-my-sftp-chroot-setup
[21:32] <Kamilion_> IE, not using the ~ shortcut, but specifying /home/kamilion/powerwatch/powermgr.sh
[21:32] <DJRWolf> I put a dvd in my optical drive and I don't see it on my drive list, am I missing a step here??
[21:32] <korridor> hello;) who can help me?
[21:32] <Steve^> Kamilion_, I assume something simple like "date >> ~/logs/foo" would work?
[21:32] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: also http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1922395
[21:32] <ska> Does "dpkg-statoveride --remove command" restore the command to its original status?
[21:32] <wellwhy> Just ask your question korridor
[21:32] <Kamilion_> Steve^: That's pretty much what it's doing >.<
[21:33] <Steve^> Kamilion_, also, don't forget some nice >> my.log 2>> my.err
[21:33] <Kamilion_> it's running a shellscript that gets a five character value from a power regulator and writes a timestamp and the value to a log.
[21:33] <Troy^> 14 days uptime on my desktop
[21:34] <drag0nius> i plugged comp into TV with HDMI (TV) -> Display Port (comp), works so far, but edges are cut
[21:34] <drag0nius> like i see around 90% of what i should see no matter what resolution i set
[21:34] <Kamilion_> i have: * * * * * /home/kamilion/power_mgr.sh 2>&1 >> /home/kamilion/power_mgr.log
[21:34] <Kamilion_> erk
[21:34] <d00durk00l> IdleOne: I was thinking that orginally ..
[21:34] <d00durk00l> Nisstyre: Thanks
[21:34] <Kamilion_> i have: * * * * * /home/kamilion/powerwatch/power_mgr.sh 2>&1 >> /home/kamilion/powerwatch/power_mgr.log
[21:34] <XiaolinDraconis> http://askubuntu.com/q/186730/89012
[21:34] <drag0nius> got ubuntu 12.04 with propertiary drivers installed before
[21:34] <MsSayian> eltigre, i fixed my problem. I did have an output but whatver update package did to my display it took off my nvidia driver. so I had to reinstall via additional drivers
[21:35] <Kamilion_> when i run the script manually it works fine
[21:35] <Steve^> Kamilion_, and does     * * * * * date 2>&1 >> /home/kamilion/powerwatch/power_mgr.log    do anything?
[21:35] <Kamilion_> i can move the power_mgr.sh script, as it's just a 2 line wrapper around powerquery.sh
[21:36] <Kamilion_> that is also supposed to be doing a 2>&1 logfile
[21:36] <Kamilion_> trying
[21:36] <jrib> Kamilion_: and a newline to the end of your crontab, pastebin your script
[21:36] <jrib> Kamilion_: s/and/add
[21:36] <Kamilion_> there's four newlines at the end
[21:36] <Steve^> Since formatting is likely your issue, trying the simple things is a good step
[21:36] <Kamilion_> I already hit stack overflow for this
[21:36] <Steve^> oo, karma, where? ;)
[21:37] <jrib> Kamilion_: how did you edit the crontab and whose crontab is it?
[21:37] <Kamilion_> crontab -e
[21:37] <Kamilion_> mine
[21:37] <jrib> Kamilion_: "mine" is too vague
[21:37] <Kamilion_> kamilion
[21:37] <jrib> Kamilion_: pastebin the script
[21:37] <Kamilion_> ergh, sec, lemme get on webirc from there.
[21:37] <Kamilion_> oops, can't
[21:37] <Kamilion_> airgap on that machine
[21:38] <Kamilion_> no network allowed, so no pastie
[21:38]  * Kamilion_ digs for a usb stick >.<
[21:38] <d00durk00l> chrooting means what? Changing root directory?
[21:38]  * Steve^ wants a photo ;)
[21:38] <jrib> Kamilion_: also, try Steve^'s date suggestion.  What version of ubuntu is this?
[21:38] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: more or less
[21:38] <Kamilion_> 12.04.1
[21:38] <Kamilion_> it was working in 11.04
[21:38] <Kamilion_> rather
[21:39] <Kamilion_> it works fine on another identcal unit that was not updated to 12.04
[21:39] <Kamilion_> which is why it's really throwing me for a loop
[21:39] <d00durk00l> so by chroot for a sftp user is what will be there first directory when connecting therefore changing the directory to what I want correct?
[21:39] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: it's useful for doing stuff like fixing your OS from a live cd
[21:40] <d00durk00l> okay how would that be useful sorry for the ignorance
[21:40] <Nisstyre> some distros require you to chroot in first, like Gentoo
[21:40] <jrib> Kamilion_: you're determining that it's not working fine because there is no output to the .log file?
[21:40] <korridor> guys) who use 'proxycheck'? console application for cheking proxy (socks/http etc) i don't understand how does it work :(
[21:40] <Kamilion_> jrib: no output in *THREE* logfiles.
[21:40] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: it's hard to explain, sometimes you want your environment to act as if the root directory is somewhere new
[21:40] <jrib> Kamilion_: which 3?
[21:40] <Kamilion_> cron.log is blank, 0 bytes, and the two others only show when I manually run the script
[21:40] <Steve^> I care more about the *ONE* log file that is specified in 2>&1
[21:41] <Kamilion_> jrib: the three I'm trying to write to -- one in the powerquery.sh, one in power_mgr.sh, and one from the crontab itself :<
[21:41] <Guest82082> !help
[21:41] <jrib> Kamilion_: do you happen to be using encrypted home directories?
[21:41] <d00durk00l> so your able to boot up to another so that you can repair the real root?
[21:41] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: something like that, yes
[21:41] <Kamilion_> jrib: nope
[21:41] <d00durk00l> Nisstyre: So why would a distro require you to do this on bootup?
[21:42] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: anyway, people sometimes use it as a security thing too
[21:42] <Steve^> Kamilion_, does the date thing work?
[21:42] <d00durk00l> Nisstyre: Sorry just want to understand
[21:42] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: on install
[21:42] <Nisstyre> not on every boot
[21:42] <d00durk00l> oh kk
[21:42] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: some distros have a much more "hands on" install procedure
[21:42] <Kamilion_> steve, i keep walking over there to try, but get highlighted on IRC >.<
[21:42] <Nisstyre> :P
[21:42] <Steve^> Kamilion_, and check chmod
[21:42] <d00durk00l> Nisstyre: Yeah I used to use slackware about 5 years ago
[21:43] <Kamilion_> check chmod for what? They're +x.
[21:43] <extropy> Hey, there's like droidbuntu now right?
[21:43] <Kamilion_> yes, the date line works
[21:43] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: anyway, in the context of your problem, what you want to do is chroot your friend when they access your sftp server, so that they can only access files under that root
[21:43] <d00durk00l> Does anyone know if pidgeon has a size limitation for file transfers?
[21:44] <extropy> armbuntu?
[21:44] <Steve^> Kamilion_, so cron is fine, your script either is not executing or does not print anything
[21:44] <XiaolinDraconis> http://askubuntu.com/q/186730/89012
[21:44] <Kamilion_> it does when it's run manually.
[21:44] <extropy> gsmbunutu? lol
[21:44] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: probably
[21:44] <d00durk00l> Nisstyre: Actually using that on bootup as a security mechanism is a good idea.. I will have to look into that
[21:44]  * jrib predicts a PATH issue
[21:44] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: er, that's not what I was getting at
[21:44] <Steve^> so if you take the line from cron, and remove "* * * * * " and run, it works?
[21:45] <d00durk00l> Are the connections with pidgeon through a server or direct?
[21:45] <Kamilion_> grr, okay, f--k cron then, I'll just rewrite a do while loop and add it to rc.local >.<
[21:45] <gordonjcp> d00durk00l: I reckon you could get a 32GB micro SD card on a leg tag though, and a pigeon could carry that
[21:45] <Kamilion_> Wasting too much time debugging this in the field.
[21:45] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: that depends on the protocol...
[21:45] <Kamilion_> Steve: yessir, it does
[21:45] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: pidgin uses libpurple, which supports many protocols
[21:45] <jrib> Kamilion_: if you pastebin the script, it would be helpful
[21:45] <d00durk00l> I don't like the idea of running a server...
[21:45] <Steve^> Kamilion_, then jrib's PATH suggestion is a good one
[21:46] <Nisstyre> d00durk00l: then use the IP over Avian protocol like gordonjcp suggested
[21:46] <d00durk00l> If I can avoid it I would.. Is there any protocols that would support that size of a file and diret not through a proxy?
[21:46] <Nisstyre> :P
[21:46] <arosen1> Hi, i'm unable to get sound though my headphones though I can hear static if i turn the volume up high.
[21:46] <Steve^> arosen1, static would be normal
[21:46] <arosen1> Any ideas how to debug this? I've gone though alsamixer but nothing makes sound come out.
[21:46] <d00durk00l> I don't have a addy to send it too
[21:46] <Nisstyre> arosen1: that doesn't necessarily mean anything
[21:47] <d00durk00l> I have to send it through the net
[21:47] <d00durk00l> :(
[21:47] <Nisstyre> arosen1: if they're connected to an amp then there would be static, it doesn't mean the soundcard is producing it
[21:47] <arosen1> I have youtube open and vlc playing stuff.
[21:47] <Steve^> arosen1, is this a problem right from when you turn the computer on?
[21:47] <d00durk00l> I was going to try to use a torrent but that sucked
[21:47] <Nisstyre> arosen1: are all your channels unmuted?
[21:47] <arosen1> Steve^: the head phones plug into the sound card on the computer.
[21:47] <Nisstyre> more than one soundcard?
[21:48] <arosen1> Nisstyre: no
[21:48] <arosen1> noe are.
[21:48] <arosen1> none*
[21:48] <Steve^> arosen1, I mean, right after you turn the computer on, do you have sound? Or does it dissappear later?
[21:48] <arosen1> in alsamixed i went though and confirmed hitting 'm'
[21:48] <arosen1> Steve^: I think doesn't work from the start.
[21:48] <Nisstyre> arosen1: wait
[21:49] <Nisstyre> arosen1: so you want _no_ sound?
[21:49] <arosen1> No i want sound
[21:49] <Nisstyre> arosen1: then why are you muting things?
[21:49] <arosen1> oh sorry i meant to ensure nothing is multed.
[21:49] <arosen1> muted*
[21:49] <Nisstyre> okay
[21:50] <arosen1> Nisstyre: i have everything marked as green at the bottom in alsamixer
[21:50] <Nisstyre> arosen1: next step is to tell us your chipset
[21:50] <Nisstyre> lspci should have that information
[21:50] <Nisstyre> arosen1: it will be something like "05:01.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10)"
[21:50] <Nisstyre> except different depending on your chipset manufacturer
[21:51] <arosen1> 06:00.0 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies Inc. VT1720/24 [Envy24PT/HT] PCI Multi-Channel Audio Controller (rev 01)
[21:51] <arosen1> Nisstyre: http://pastebin.com/e6FxtyU3
[21:52] <Nisstyre> arosen1: seems relevant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/622980
[21:52] <Kamilion_> steve: took a picture, but my phone is being a butt and dropbox refuses to sync with my battery at 9% >.<
[21:53] <Kamilion_> i hate hotel rooms. There's never enough outlets when you need them... Note to self: buy power strips today.
[21:53] <jrib> Kamilion_: you could have just typed it out by now :)
[21:53] <Kamilion_> yeah, i know >.<
[21:53] <Kamilion_> jrib: but I assume he was more interested in what the hell I'm actually doing.
[21:54] <Kamilion_> and a picture is worth 30,000 words in this case... hahahaha
[21:54] <Nisstyre> arosen1: are you _sure_ you only have the one soundcard?
[21:54] <arosen1> Nisstyre: yes
[21:54] <Nisstyre> arosen1: okay, well, there's some info on google. I'm not sure what your specific issue is.
[21:56] <Kamilion_> and stupid qwebirc has decided it no longer wishes to scroll automatically. Wow. Today's a bad day for me.
[21:57] <Steve^> Kamilion_, next step would be to make a shell script called ~/date.sh,  crontab of "* * * * * ./date.sh 2>&1 >> ~/logs/datelog2"  and contents of "!/bin/bash<NEWLINE>date"
[21:57]  * Kamilion_ copies that into notepad++ to retype on the airgap'd machine
[21:57] <Steve^> Kamilion_, "
[21:57] <Steve^> Kamilion_, "#!/bin/bash"
[21:57] <Steve^> typos won't help anything right now :)
[21:57] <d00durk00l> kk sftp it is
[21:58] <juan> guys
[21:58] <d00durk00l> Nisstyre: Thanks for the help :)
[21:58] <juan> what distribution linux recommends?
[21:58] <Kamilion_> yeah, yeah, I know bash pretty well (which is why this is aggrivating me to no end)
[21:58] <Steve^> juan, Ubuntu!
[21:58] <jrib> Guest17524: well... you're in #ubuntu...
[21:58] <Guest17524> but Ubuntu is very heavy and slowly
[21:58] <Guest17524> :(
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> Guest17524  it's fast and swift here
[21:59] <Guest17524> how desktop use?
[21:59] <Kamilion_> Steve^: the reason I wrapped the main script with power_mgr.sh was so i could have the script it calls be set with #!/bin/bash -x, and the 2>&1 should have captured all the debug output.
[21:59] <Guest17524> Unity, KDE or XFCE?
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> Guest17524  the best way to learn, is by using it
[21:59] <Guest17524> i know
[21:59] <MonkeyDust> Guest17524  try them all, then decide which you like more
[21:59] <Guest17524> but KDE is very heavy
[21:59] <BluesKaj_> arosen1, that soundcard is the same as mine and it's a pci card , you also have your onboard card , howvever if you install pavucontrol , you'll be able to setup your inputs and outputs , to make them work for you
[22:00] <Guest17524> and XFCE is buggin
[22:00] <Guest17524> any sugestion?
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> Guest17524  try some other DE, then decide
[22:00] <Kamilion_> ahh, there goes dropbox.
[22:00] <Steve^> Guest17524, Normal machine use Ubuntu/Unity. Older machine use Xubuntu/XFCE
[22:00] <Guest17524> MonkeyDust: wath DE use?
[22:01] <Guest17524> Steve: wath Desktop use?
[22:01] <Kamilion_> Steve^: https://www.dropbox.com/s/qlc8vn2ava0xrr9/2012-09-11%2017.46.06.jpg
[22:01] <MonkeyDust> Guest17524  try a few DE'sn then decide
[22:01] <Guest17524> any sugestion DE?
[22:02] <MonkeyDust> Guest17524  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:02] <nino>  hey, this might be an odd question, but...:  anyone knows where i can talk with someone about old paintings? I found an old one and like to date it.
[22:02] <jrib> Kamilion_: haha what on earth am I looking at
[22:02] <DOokami> hello guys, who can help me out with some IRC basics ?
[22:02] <Kamilion_> https://www.dropbox.com/s/l750isi2aq5kkyv/2012-09-11%2017.46.13.jpg
[22:02] <Steve^> Kamilion_, I am going to imagine you are Jack Bauer, trying to defuse a suitcase bomb by monitoring the power output frequncies
[22:02] <Kamilion_> jrib: NDA.
[22:02] <goddard> nino: your grandmother?
[22:02] <Guest17524> wow this chanel is very bad,... is boring
[22:02] <Kamilion_> let's just say there's a big battery and an ubuntu machine inside.
[22:02] <goddard> Guest17524: your bad!
[22:02] <nino> goddard, she is dead.
[22:03] <Kamilion_> and it does stuff in meatspace that I'm not supposed to be talking about
[22:03] <goddard> nino: some one elses grandmother
[22:03] <BluesKaj_> gues wanna chit chat , go to ubuntu-offtopic
[22:03] <BluesKaj_> Guest17524,^
[22:03] <Guest17524> they are supposed to do this channel? help?
[22:03] <nino> goddard, seriously, i think this painting has some value ( very old i guess )
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> Guest17524  type /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[22:03] <goddard> Guest17524: some one already answered your question
[22:03] <jrib> Kamilion_: skynet... great.  (But the text is not readable in your picture)
[22:03] <DOokami> guys who knows where i can find a channel about android ?
[22:03] <Guest17524> ok... bye guys, so bad
[22:04] <goddard> Guest17524: so either try the DE out or stop saying the same thing over and over
[22:04] <Steve^> bye Juan
[22:04] <Kamilion_> Either way -- what it does is orthogonal to the problem I'm trying to solve; a simple shellscript to keep an eye on the stupid battery voltage
[22:04] <goddard> nino: We talk about computers not ART
[22:04] <Kamilion_> Argh, keep forgetting, I put ICS on my tmobile G2 and it still doesn't support the camera at full resolution
[22:04] <jrib> Kamilion_: are you sure it's not an issue with your PATH?  The PATH in crontab is not the same as the PATH you get when you log in
[22:04] <nino> goddard, rly? damn im a geek like u, just asking if you know a goddamn ART channel ;)
[22:05] <goddard> nino: freenode is the best place to do that my friend
[22:05] <DOokami> umm ..
[22:05] <Steve^> what I can say is, there is not freaking way you're getting that on a plane.
[22:05] <jrib> Kamilion_: make the font size huge :)
[22:05] <Kamilion_> jrib: ... hmmm... okay, well, then lemme try something. *sticks echo $PATH in place of 'date'*
[22:05] <arosen1> BluesKaj_: cool trying that now. (mines a pci one too)
[22:05] <nino> goddard, never got in touch with art, except tweeking the colors of my shell. what am i supposed to do?
[22:05] <Kamilion_> Steve^: It's been on four planes in the last five days
[22:06] <Steve^> jrib, Kamilion_ well it must be a PATH problem from inside the script? As the cron line is an absolute path?
[22:06] <DOokami> guys do you read me ?
[22:06] <Kamilion_> Steve^: I'm from california, two planes to arkansas, another to georgia.
[22:06] <Steve^> Kamilion_, TSA needs to do better checking of suitcases then
[22:06] <goddard> nino: its obvious if you want to just chit chat do it in offtopic
[22:06] <jrib> DOokami: roger
[22:06] <Kamilion_> Steve^: they checked it right in front of me. Four of them. Real interested in it.
[22:07] <Kamilion_> but they just swabbed it for explosives and let me go through.
[22:07]  * Kamilion_ shrugs
[22:07] <DOokami> jrib: thanks
[22:07] <Steve^> Kamilion_, I guessed you passed the "No terrorist is this stupid" test ;)
[22:07] <nino> goddard, ok - should have gone to the debian channel in the first place. i assume these guys are more mature.
[22:07] <tarwich1> Can anyone tell me how to keep a tty from falling asleep?
[22:07] <Kamilion_> Stupid airline won't let us use big lithium batteries... they took them away at the first airport
[22:07] <arosen1> BluesKaj_: i have something playing and i ccan see the line move up and down in pavucontrol but still no output.
[22:07] <tarwich1> tty2 is sleeping when inactive.
[22:07] <Kamilion_> So we bought some heavy ass lead acids and they havn't given us any shit since
[22:08] <goddard> nino: that makes no sense which = nonsense
[22:08] <nino> goddard, whatever
[22:08] <jrib> tarwich1: see the various options to setterm (blank, powersave, powerdown), maybe
[22:08] <arosen1> BluesKaj_: On Output Devices: Port I only have Digial Output S/PDIF
[22:08] <arosen1> I think that' the issue.
[22:08] <Kamilion_> the lithium batteries were 7 pounds... the lead acid is about 40lbs -- and the whole rig as is, is just under 49 lbs, right under the 50lbs airline limit. :)
[22:09] <arosen1> I'm just trying to use the green hole not the fiber one.
[22:09] <tarwich1> setterm -powersave off gives me setterm: cannot (un)set powersave mode: Invalid argument
[22:09] <Kamilion_> and yeah -- I'm a skinny white engineer with a NASA badge
[22:09] <Kamilion_> I think that kind of trumps the TSA badge, lmfao
[22:09] <WeThePeople> this is a ubuntu support channel
[22:09] <WeThePeople> keep it that way
[22:09] <Kamilion_> anyway, back on topic
[22:09] <Steve^> Kamilion_, ok, so I'm looking for a hotel within a 20 minute drive of Atlanta, with green carpets. Skirting boards are also carpeted, which ups the budget a little bit
[22:10] <Steve^> Kamilion_, East facing window
[22:10] <Kamilion_> why is this path different when it's the user's own crontab?
[22:10] <Kamilion_> i would expect a different $PATH from /etc/crontab
[22:10] <Kamilion_> but not from a user's crontab -e
[22:10] <jrib> Kamilion_: because cron
[22:10] <Steve^> Kamilion_, I imagine it won't run bashrc or bash_whatevertheotheroneiscalled
[22:10] <Kamilion_> which stack overflow described as 'don't use /etc/crontab or apt will overwrite it!' where 'will' meant 'may'
[22:11] <tarwich1> jrex: Thanks. I ran setterm -powersave off and it gave me "cannot (un)set powersave mode", which google says is because I'm running the desktop gui in another tab.
[22:11] <drag0nius-tv> how do i integrade Periscope with nautilus?
[22:11] <Kamilion_> WeThePeople: Can I scroll an ascii middle finger? Is *that* on topic? Man, the people who mouth off to IRC Opers are just unreal. :<
[22:11] <drag0nius-tv> i've installed it along with placing that python script for nautilus but nothing changed
[22:12] <Kamilion_> anyway, going to a while loop. Thanks Steve and jrib.
[22:12] <WeThePeople> sure go for it
[22:12] <jrib> let's try to stay civil please
[22:13] <Kamilion|2> Ahhh, a real IRC client.
[22:14] <Kamilion|2> nobody would want to trust qwebirc to oper against, lmfao
[22:14] <jrib> Kamilion|2: just do "echo $PATH" as your user and then define the PATH at the top of your crontab
[22:14] <Kamilion|2> jrib: any idea why the path is so different?
[22:15] <Kamilion|2> oh -- let me guess... my ~profile isn't getting run?
[22:15] <Steve^> I swear I said that...
[22:15] <Steve^> :)
[22:15] <Kamilion|2> yeah, that fixed it. >.<
[22:15] <Kamilion|2> "source /home/kamilion/profile"
[22:16] <Kamilion|2> er, there's a dot in there too.
[22:16] <Kamilion|2> Thanks Steve^/jrib!
[22:17] <Steve^> no worries
[22:17] <Steve^> see you in the hotel bar
[22:17] <cidness> i am trying to mkdir(which i have done a million times) but everytime i hit enter i get a '>' with a flashing cursor. i can type, nothing happens, and i have to ctrl+c to get out of it.
[22:17] <jrib> cidness: pastebin your full command and the full output
[22:17] <Steve^> cidness, '?
[22:18] <cidness> jrib: ok,,, wont be much
[22:19] <drag0nius-tv> where would i put nautilus context menu extension written in python?
[22:20] <black_13> how do i get grub to boot  a second linux install that is on another disk?
[22:20] <zykotick9> black_13: try "sudo update-grub" and see if it get automatically added
[22:20] <Kamilion|2> Steve^: Hamilton inn doesn't have a bar -- but The Rusty Nail around the corner's a great dive bar.
[22:21] <Kamilion|2> if you're nearby; I'd be happy to buy you a round for the help.
[22:21] <Steve^> Kamilion|2, i'm in London, UK, so no thanks :) - just trying to be stalkerish
[22:22] <cidness> jrib: it hangs at the '>_' and wont pastebin. the folder has a ' eg: I'm
[22:22] <goddard> anyone know why amazon wont play any videos
[22:22] <cidness> Steve^: yea, you got issues?
[22:22] <jrib> cidness: hit ctrl-c and you should get a new prompt, then use your mouse to copy and paste
[22:23] <Steve^> cidness, you shouldn't make a folder with ' in it, the bash prompt will look for a matching ' later on
[22:24] <Steve^> cidness, though you can do the following, if you want    $ mkdir "i'm here"
[22:24] <res22> I have ubuntu 12.04 installed but grub-install -v says version 0.97, how do I install grub 2?
[22:24] <zykotick9> cidness: ' in a folder/filename seems silly to me.  but use "mkdir this\'s\ really\ what\ I\ want" type thing
[22:25] <cidness> http://pastebin.com/xJxiGCaH
[22:25] <cidness> as far as having the '... just trying to use propper grammer, i can leave it out if thats the issue
[22:25] <Steve^> cidness, ok then yea, escape the ' or wrap the whole thing in ""
[22:26] <Steve^> cidness, you would also encounter issues with ! and other special grammar characters
[22:26] <res22> never mind, apt-get install grub-pc
[22:26] <Steve^> cidness, oh, the "" helps with the space problem too
[22:27] <cidness> thanks for the school guys. much appreciated.
[22:28] <cidness> what is the >_ promt though? thats interesting
[22:28] <zykotick9> cidness: incomplete command, waiting for you to finish it.
[22:29] <Kims_pc> I was wondering if there was a way to sync contacts calendar and so on, on an android device with ubuntu
[22:30] <neo_> i've been trying to figure out a way to get my BCM4311 wireless card working on my dell latitude D520. I've installed the needed files i found on the forum site but they havent helped my problem at all, can anyone help?
[22:31] <zykotick9> !broadcom | neo_
[22:31] <neo_> i have tried that it hasent helped
[22:37] <leonas> hey guys. can anyone help me with setting default runlevels for ubuntu? I'm a bit confused by the upstart/sysv duo
[22:37] <zykotick9> !runlevels | leonas
[22:37] <neo_> I need some help with a BCM4311, I have the files the help guides and forums say i need but to no avail, i have a dell latitude D520 ubuntu 12.04
[22:37] <zykotick9> leonas: are you just trying to stop Xorg from starting?
[22:38] <leonas> zykotick9 no I jjust want to make sure a certain service starts all the time.
[22:38] <zykotick9> leonas: ahhh.  good luck then.  (/methinks ubuntu users aren't suppose to be interested in services ;)
[22:39] <Costeelation> !pastebinit
[22:39] <Costeelation> :)
[22:40] <neo_> I need some help with a BCM4311, I have the files the help guides and forums say i need but to no avail, i have Ubuntu 12.04.
[22:40] <OerHeks> neo_, after install, did you reboot?
[22:40] <leonas> zykotick9 for reelz? :P I want to add "unatended-upgrades" (but any service will do) to the boot level.
[22:40] <neo_> yeah
[22:41] <leonas> !upstart
[22:41] <Kims_pc> never mind i can sync contact with thunderbird through google
[22:41] <zykotick9> leonas: sorry man, i have no idea.  good luck.  /methinks unattended upgrades are also silly admining ;)
[22:41] <Kims_pc> and calendar it seems
[22:41] <Kims_pc> later
[22:41] <OerHeks> neo_, you installed the STA driver ?? >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx
[22:41] <leonas> zykotick9 depends on what you want the unnatended upgrades for
[22:42] <neo_> the STA driver was already installed, i was told i was supposed to disable it and then install firmware-b43-installer
[22:42] <hilo> hello Ubuntu!
[22:42] <zykotick9> leonas: not to me.  i think knowing what gets upgraded and when, and controlling that process - is essential for a functional/stable-system.  YMMV
[22:42] <OerHeks> neo_, follow that ubuntu page, you really need the STA driver, AFAIK
[22:43] <neo_> alright i will thanks
[22:43] <tryingUbuntu> Everytime I go to hibernate or sleep my computer will NOT connect to the Internet when I log back in,,,,  Is there a fix for this??
[22:43] <leonas> zykotick9 unless it's something you want to put next to a television and never hear from again until there is a problem. as I said, depends on the use case. for my computers os I wouldn't use ubuntu in the first place
[22:43] <tryingUbuntu> I always have to restart
[22:43] <zykotick9> leonas: this is ubuntu - do what you want.
[22:46] <Kamilion|2> "I have not failed 700 times. I have not failed once. I have succeeded in proving that those 700 ways will not work. When I have eliminated the ways that will not work, I will find the way that will work." -Thomas Edison
[22:47] <hilo> Anyone in here have any experience with virtualization on Ubuntu?
[22:48] <Kamilion|2> hilo: Sure. Which virtualizer?
[22:48] <zykotick9> !anyone | hilo
[22:48] <Kamilion|2> hilo: Which virtualizer? Virtualbox, VMware, KVM, Qemu, or Xen?
[22:48] <black_13> does anyone?
[22:48] <tryingUbuntu> Is anyone else having this issue???       Everytime I go to hibernate or sleep my computer will NOT connect to the Internet when I log back in,,,,  Is there a fix for this??
[22:48] <tryingUbuntu>  I always have to restart
[22:49] <hilo> I am have only used VMware in the past, but I am looking for something that can be run on the Ubuntu Server without a GUI (but I want to run virtual machines with GUI)
[22:49] <Costeelation> i can paste a plain text with the command pastebinti?
[22:49] <Kamilion|2> hilo: I've used VirtualBox + vboxtool + vboxweb for that in the past.
[22:49] <todd__> hilo, virtualbox can run headless on the server, then connect via web interface
[22:50] <zykotick9> tryingUbuntu: details, like what computer you have, and which ubuntu version you're using might help the channel.  searching for bugs on launchpad for you computer model might be a good idea.
[22:50] <OerHeks> black_13, does anyone what?
[22:50] <Kamilion|2> hilo: however, the open source version does not support RDP -- only VNC. If you install the propritary addon modules, you can obtain RDP access -- but the two are mutually exclusive
[22:50] <MagiC3PO> Hey guys, I need some help.
[22:50] <hilo> Kamilion|2: any strengths weaknesses or other reasons to choose one over the other
[22:50] <Kamilion|2> hilo: Well, you also have libvirt, which can frontend for many virtualizers, including kvm and virtualbox.
[22:50] <MagiC3PO> So, I have Ubuntu 12.04 and an ATI Radeon 2600 XT Graphics card
[22:50] <hilo> Kamilion|2: I use VNC pretty much exclusively so that isn't an issue
[22:51] <tryingUbuntu> I have a toshiba satellite laptop ubuntu 12.04 and this problem       Everytime I go to hibernate or sleep my computer will NOT connect to the Internet when I log back in,,,,  Is there a fix for this??
[22:51] <tryingUbuntu>  I always have to restart
[22:51] <MagiC3PO> I also have a 1920x1080 and a 1280x1024 monitor
[22:51] <MagiC3PO> tryingUbuntu, driver issue?
[22:51] <black_13> can the ubuntu desktop isntall iso have a customized preseed
[22:51] <zykotick9> tryingUbuntu: satellite's often have model numbers ;)
[22:51] <Kamilion|2> hilo: vbox is usually the easiest way imo, but may not be the most powerful or most compatible. Depending on what you're doing. (I was trying to keep my Diablo II bots running)
[22:51] <black_13> or can i use isomaster to change the preseed file ?
[22:51] <MagiC3PO> Maybe your network card and wireless cards are shut down for sleep mode, then they aren't turned back on?
[22:52] <tryingUbuntu> MagiC3PO  how would I know??  New to ubuntu  thx for any help
[22:52] <MagiC3PO> tryingUbuntu, hmm...
[22:52] <Kamilion|2> tryingUbuntu: look on your laptop for a wireless indicator light?
[22:52] <MagiC3PO> Kamilion|2, good suggestion
[22:52] <Kamilion|2> or a 'killswitch' in the off position
[22:52] <tryingUbuntu> Kamilion it is there.  and on.. I am connected now????
[22:53] <Kamilion|2> otherwise, you may need firmware for your wireless adapter... if it's a broadcom.
[22:53] <zykotick9> Kamilion|2: tryingUbuntu is having the issue after sleep/hibernate....
[22:53] <OerHeks> black_13, wey you can >>> https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/installation-guide/i386/appendix-preseed.html
[22:53] <hilo> Kamilion|2: Thanks! I will look into that. I just want to run a few Ubuntu and Windows virtual servers on top of my ubuntu
[22:53] <Kamilion|2> MagiC3PO: what's your issue with the 2600XT? I have one too.
[22:53] <tryingUbuntu> Doesnt matter if i close the laptop or leave it open or touch it in anyway other than a  software
[22:53] <MagiC3PO> ANYWAYS, back to my issue. So, I have a 1920x1080 monitor and a 1280x1024 monitor. When I try to set them up in a dual monitor configuration, unless I set the second one to be small, (like 800x600)
[22:53] <MagiC3PO> It says...
[22:53] <MagiC3PO> One sec while I copy the message
[22:53] <todd__> ubuntu 12.04 is so much better with synapse for a launcher
[22:54] <zykotick9> !ot | todd__
[22:54] <MagiC3PO> requested position/size for CRTC 148 is outside the allowed limit: position=(1280, 0), size=(1920, 1080), maximum=(1920, 1920)
[22:54] <Kamilion|2> MagiC3PO: Virtual desktop too large? or something similar?
[22:54] <Kamilion|2> yeah, you need to add a VIRTUAL line to your xorg.conf
[22:54] <black_13> what does initrd preseed mean?
[22:54] <MagiC3PO> I was able to do this before I enabled the proprietary driver
[22:54] <tryingUbuntu> Software sleep or hibernation.. I think there is only sleep,, anyway, when logging back in I always have to reboot to connect to the interner again.  I am using ubuntu 12.04 with a Satellite A205 Toshiba laptop.. Thanks for any help anyone can give me.
[22:54] <tryingUbuntu> and the sys is up to date
[22:55] <Kamilion|2> virtual needs to be the size of both monitors in whichever orientation you wish -- if they're side by side, 1920x2104
[22:55] <MagiC3PO> On another note, how do I use the downloaded file from AMD's website with drivers?
[22:55] <hilo> Kamilion|2, todd__: Any particular guide you guys like? Googlingggg
[22:55] <todd__> was it something i said?
[22:55] <zykotick9> tryingUbuntu: fyi hibernation is disabled (by default) in 12.04 due to high failure rates...  good luck.
[22:55] <MagiC3PO> The xorg.cong is where again?
[22:55] <Kamilion|2> not sure, never got that to work myself, MagiC3PO... i've been stuck on the prop drivers included with ubuntu for a while -- they have some compatibility requirements WRT the XServer version
[22:55] <Kamilion|2> MagiC3PO: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[22:56] <MagiC3PO> Okay, I have it open
[22:56] <MagiC3PO> What do I do then?
[22:56] <tryingUbuntu> hhhhmmmm looks like Trying ubuntu may not have been such a good Idea after all.. Thanks all for trying anyway/
[22:56] <Kamilion|2> hilo: not off the top of my head -- virtualbox will install on it's own, then google for vboxweb and set that up, but that will not start/pause machines on reboot -- vboxtool can handle that.
[22:56] <MagiC3PO> tryingUbuntu, I think it's your laptop at fault
[22:56] <kesavan> Help me plese
[22:56] <todd__> hilo, check out http://www.category5.tv/episodes/230.php
[22:56] <MagiC3PO> kesavan, ask a question, get an answer!
[22:57] <Kamilion|2> MagiC3PO: This may or may not help; i just took a glance at it. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1284786
[22:58] <tryingUbuntu> MagiC3P0   Sounds like management to me, if you don't know the answer it must be my laptop..hahahaha   Windows works just fine...   yea, my dog ate it..
[22:58] <Kamilion|2> hilo: it should be noted; last time i was doing this was before virtualbox 4.x -- YMMV with more modern versions.
[22:58] <kesavan> my pc resolution is 1280*768 but i have only  1024*768
[22:58] <Kamilion|2> tryingUbuntu: try mint -- it's an ubuntu derived disc that may help.
[22:58] <silverslimer> kesavan: what graphics chipset are you using?
[22:58] <hilo> Kamilion|2: appreciate it
[22:58] <hilo> todd__: thanks, watching
[22:58] <MagiC3PO> Kamilion|2, I don't seem to have the AMD Catalyst control center...
[22:58] <kesavan> defult asus mother bord graphic
[22:59] <MagiC3PO> kesavan, check under System Settings
[22:59] <MagiC3PO> Then Additional Drivers
[22:59] <silverslimer> kesavan: and how old is this computer?
[22:59] <Kamilion|2> MagiC3PO: TBH, I got sick of fglrx and went back to the OSS drivers for most of my older radeons -- i tend to game on my newer nvidia 470 equipped system now, and the OSS driver was fine for anything but that.
[23:00] <kesavan> 3yr
[23:00] <Kamilion|2> kesavan: Do you have an AMD based system or an Intel based system?
[23:00] <MagiC3PO> Kamilion|2, I found the included one slow
[23:00] <kesavan> amd
[23:00] <zykotick9> kesavan: in a terminal "lspci | grep -i vga"
[23:00] <MagiC3PO> And I kinda want to do Minecraft on this computer
[23:00] <Kamilion|2> kesavan: it's likely a AMD 780G or 880G then.
[23:01] <Kamilion|2> MagiC3PO: ahh -- minecraft works for me on the OSS driver -- it's just slow. I'd recommend patching it with optifine.
[23:01] <wellwhy> I have Gnome Shell 3.4, and I have installed Gnome-Tweak-Tool, and User Theme Extension, but under the theme tab the theme box is greyed out so I cannot select my theme! What do I do?
[23:01] <MagiC3PO> Kamilion|2, I have Windows 7 Pro 64-bit on this computer, but I'd like to use Ubuntu
[23:01] <Noobuntu> hii , I am not able to get synclient monitor working on Precise. Any help ould be appreicated.
[23:01] <Kamilion|2> MagiC3PO: the minecraft forums can help you figure that out -- optifine basically splits the render/network into two threads, so the network chunking can't lag the rendering.
[23:01] <MagiC3PO> Since I need to boost my Linux knowledge some
[23:02] <MagiC3PO> I use Optifine on my laptop at home. With Intel 945 GM Graphics
[23:02] <MagiC3PO> NOT designed for MC :P
[23:02] <Kamilion|2> indeed. TBH, I'd say stick to the FGLRX that ubuntu offers you.
[23:02] <Noobuntu> synclient monitor works on Precise?
[23:03] <Kamilion|2> i've really found no paticular reason to try to upgrade to a driver that's only a few months newer
[23:03] <wellwhy> Anyone able to help with Gnome Shell/Themes?
[23:03] <kesavan> athlon
[23:03] <Kamilion|2> MagiC3PO: ohh-- also, keep in mind that AMD will be dropping support for the 2X00 series of Radeon HDs with the most current few driver releases.
[23:03] <Noobuntu> wellwhy: install gnome shell extensions, user extensions and gnoe tweak tool
[23:03] <wellwhy> I did that Noobuntu
[23:04] <wellwhy> You didnt read very clearly
[23:04] <kesavan> grephelp me pls
[23:04] <MagiC3PO> Kamilion|2, it's already on the Legacy support
[23:04] <Noobuntu> beg your pardon
[23:04] <Noobuntu> what help do you need exactly?
[23:04] <MagiC3PO> wellwhy, be NICE
[23:04] <Kamilion|2> erk, looks like i've got to jet and get back to work.
[23:04] <MagiC3PO> These people are VOLUNTEERING to help
[23:04] <wellwhy> My problem is that I have a greyed out box where theme is
[23:05] <wellwhy> I didnt mean to make the sentence sound that mean MAgic
[23:05] <Kamilion|2> Thanks for the assistance, those who provided; hope my assistance has helped whom I've provided.
[23:05] <MagiC3PO> They don't have to be here helping, and they DON'T have to take insults
[23:05] <MagiC3PO> I shall be back in a minute or two
[23:05] <Kamilion|2> wellwhy: have you searched google and stackoverflow network for the answer first?
[23:05] <MagiC3PO> Since I must reboot for changes to take effect.
[23:06] <wellwhy> I have, and I have no idea how to fix it
[23:06] <wellwhy> I have tried many commands
[23:06] <Kamilion|2> What is it that you're attempting to accomplish?
[23:06] <Magiobiwan> Derp
[23:06] <wellwhy> But it is greyed out with an exclamation point where the theme dropdown
[23:06] <Kamilion|2> changing an existing theme, installing a new theme... ?
[23:06] <wellwhy> I am trying to apply a gnome shell theme
[23:06] <Magiobiwan> Phone still Connected
[23:06] <Magiobiwan> Silly magi.
[23:06] <kesavan> how c an i fix my resolution problem
[23:06] <Noobuntu> wellwhy: make sure you are using the gnome 3.x desktop and not unity to begin with
[23:06] <wellwhy> But there is no way to do this because the area is greyed out with an exclamation oint
[23:06] <wellwhy> That is currently being ran
[23:07] <wellwhy> 3.4 Gnome shell
[23:07] <Noobuntu> aand also ensure you have some shell themes downloaded and placed in the correct location
[23:07] <Kamilion|2> kesavan: change your xorg.conf to limit your maximum resolution, comes to mind. OR connect a monitor that supports the higher resolution, select 800x600, and Make Default. Then plug in your smaller monitor.
[23:07] <wellwhy> That is the problem. Where do I place it>
[23:07] <wellwhy> It is currently on my desktop
[23:07] <Noobuntu> /usr/share/.themes or ~/.themes
[23:08] <Kamilion|2> wellwhy: sorry -- not sure. I use gnome-fallback/gnome-shell/whatever-it-is-that-looks-like-10.04-in-12.04.1
[23:08] <kesavan> how can i get 128*768
[23:08] <maca> Hello. I have a doubt with efax-gtk. Can I send files to a fax number phone eth or wlan trough as device? It could work?
[23:08] <kesavan> How get 1280*768
[23:08] <Kamilion|2> kesavan: you'll have to create a modeline for a custom resolution like that. Normally it should be 1280x720, not 1280x768.
[23:08] <Noobuntu> is synclient monitor working for anyone on Precise?
[23:08] <Kamilion|2> kesavan: it's more common to see 1366x768
[23:09] <wellwhy> I cant seem to find a .theme
[23:09] <dr_willis> wellwhy:  make the directory if you want it..
[23:09] <Noobuntu> create a folder by that name
[23:09] <Kamilion|2> kesavan: however, if your monitor is truly 1280x768, it should advertise that in it's EDID
[23:09] <wellwhy> Alright
[23:09] <dr_willis> and its .themes
[23:09] <kesavan> how cteat it ?
[23:09] <wellwhy> It seems to say I have an error when putting it in
[23:09] <dr_willis> same as you make any other directgory/folder
[23:10] <dr_willis> mkdir directorynme
[23:10] <wellwhy> Have I not supposed to put it in Themes, and .themes?
[23:10] <dr_willis> Themse go in .themes
[23:10] <Kamilion|2> kesavan: googleing 'ubuntu custom resolution xorg.conf 1280x768'
[23:10] <dr_willis> Case matters in linux.
[23:10] <wellwhy> Can they go in Themes?
[23:10] <wellwhy> Because that is the only theme related folder I have
[23:10] <Noobuntu> wellwhy: please follow exactly what dr_willis is telling you
[23:11] <Noobuntu> go to your home folder
[23:11] <Noobuntu> and type 'mkdir .themes'
[23:11] <dr_willis>  note the .    that makes it a hidden directory
[23:11] <Kamilion|2> kesavan: perhaps this, first entry from said google search, might assist. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1730277
[23:11] <dr_willis> they go in .themes   NOT Themes not THEMES not ThEmeS
[23:11] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:11] <wellwhy> It cant seem to find .themes
[23:11] <Kamilion|2> wellwhy: try hitting Ctrl-H to show hidden files/folders
[23:12] <Kamilion|2> wellwhy: I'm assuming you're using nautilus or whatever
[23:12] <wellwhy> Not the slightest idea what that is
[23:12] <Kamilion|2> the file browser window thingy
[23:12] <Noobuntu> is synclient monitor working for anyone on Precise?
[23:12] <wellwhy> it is called File
[23:13] <wellwhy> Or files
[23:13] <Kamilion|2> Noobuntu: Seems to work here on my netbook.
[23:13] <Noobuntu> Kamilion|2: did you have to tweak anything to get it working?
[23:13] <Noobuntu> the list mode seems to work
[23:13] <wellwhy> where did you find the .themes folder in the netbook?
[23:14] <Noobuntu> monitor doesnt
[23:14] <kenalex> hello
[23:14] <Kamilion|2> Noobuntu: just the normal SHMConfig bs for synaptics, but I did that ages ago.
[23:14] <kenalex> do any of you guys run ubuntu on a ssd ?
[23:14] <Kamilion|2> Noobuntu: I had to use 'synclient -m 100'
[23:14] <Kamilion|2> kenalex: yes
[23:15] <Noobuntu> I read that synclient doesnt need SHMConfig anymore
[23:15] <Kamilion|2> i run it on about... *counts* 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14 machines.
[23:15] <kenalex> Kamilion|2:is it significantly faster than  running it on a hard drive
[23:15] <wellwhy> I just dont seem to have a .themes file
[23:15] <wellwhy> I guess I will create one in share?
[23:16] <Kamilion|2> kenalex: depends on the SSD you buy. The cheap $40 one in my netbook only does 80MB/sec, when the hard disk will do about 96MB/sec. The expensive one in the server does 600MB/sec.
[23:16] <kenalex> ok
[23:16] <Kamilion|2> it also depends on what you're doing -- databases benefit the most from SSD
[23:16] <shwaill> For wireless on a laptop what's more compatible on Ubuntu ? Intel® Centrino® Advanced-N 6235 or Killer Wireless-N 1102 ?
[23:16] <shwaill> Tks
[23:16] <silverslimer> my ssd does about 500mb/s
[23:16] <silverslimer> :)
[23:16] <Kamilion|2> shwaill: the killer wireless runs linux internally.
[23:17] <kenalex> silverslimer: what ssd do you have ?
[23:17] <shwaill> Kamilion|2: so, I shouldn't be worried about it, should work fine with ubuntu ? Thanks for looking
[23:17] <Kamilion|2> shwaill: should be possible to SSH/telnet into your Killer adapter.
[23:17] <silverslimer> kenalex: linux detects it as being a kingston, i don't remember the brand itself. i just remember it was the fastest 120gb i could het
[23:17] <silverslimer> get
[23:17] <shwaill> Kamilion|2: I'm getting a new laptop so, I'm just trying to be sure I get something compatible, a little bit worried :S
[23:17] <wellwhy> Is there a way to get rid of a Permission Denied error when moving a file?
[23:17] <Kamilion|2> shwaill: as far as I know, the checksum offload and bunch of other stuff works fine on linux, but I don't have the 1102 -- I have the Killer NIC. (pci express desktop gigabit card)
[23:18] <Kamilion|2> wellwhy: sudo
[23:18] <Kamilion|2> wellwhy: or chown/chmod
[23:18] <wellwhy> I dont understand..?
[23:18] <Kamilion|2> kenalex: I'd recommend looking for one with the Sandforce controllers.
[23:18] <wellwhy> I type sudo into a terminal?
[23:19] <wellwhy> Im trying to move my folder into another but it says access denied
[23:19] <Kamilion|2> wellwhy: you either don't own the file or don't have the proper permissions set. Either sudo to root and do the operation that way, or chown the file to the proper user, or chmod the permissions properly
[23:19] <silverslimer> terminal -> sudo mv [folder]
[23:19] <wellwhy> so how do I move a file using the terminal?
[23:19] <silverslimer> for instance sudo mv porn /home/loser/hidden/
[23:19] <Kamilion|2> sudo chown username.groupname file
[23:19] <wellwhy> oh
[23:19] <dr_willis> !terminal > wellwhy
[23:20] <Kamilion|2> ie, I would 'sudo chown kamilion.kamilion myawesomefile'
[23:20] <Kamilion|2> or chown -R kamilion.kamilion myawesomedirectory/
[23:20] <Noobuntu> wellwhy: type "sudo nautilus" ina terminal and move your file to wherever in that window
[23:20] <shwaill> I'm a little bit worried about purchasing this laptop. I've asked some questions so far here in the room and looks fine, but just to make sure I'll leave the config on a pastie if someone don't mind having a look http://pastie.org/private/j1gentwaiud82k2x4vvhuw thank you! :D
[23:20] <dr_willis> its well worth the effort to spend an hr or so reading some bash basics guides
[23:20] <Kamilion|2> you can use "ls -al" to see who owns the file and what permissions are on it.
[23:20] <dr_willis> use 'gksudo GUIAPP' not sudo.
[23:21] <Noobuntu> sudo works just as well right?
[23:21] <Kamilion|2> shwaill: clevo whitebox from avadirect.com? They work great. Try the Sagers as well -- they're just branded Clevos.
[23:22] <Kamilion|2> shwaill: also, RAM is cheap -- if it'll take 32GB, load it with it.
[23:22] <shwaill> Kamilion|2: I'm in London, getting from a local store. I wanted a desktop, but I need the mobility, hope not to regret it
[23:22] <wellwhy> Well, now the Advanced system settings will not open, should I relog?
[23:22] <silverslimer> 8 gb of ram is way more than enough
[23:22] <Kamilion|2> shwaill: RAM == ~20,000 - 40,000 MB/sec and linux will try it's best to fill all that 'empty ram' with disk cache.
[23:23] <shwaill> Kamilion|2: 16 gb shouldn't be enough ?!
[23:23] <dr_willis> Noobuntu:  No.. use gksudo for gui apps or else you can run into problems
[23:23] <Kamilion|2> SSD == 600MB/sec. Which do you think is more performant for the $?
[23:23] <shwaill> I see
[23:23] <Kamilion|2> $60 extra for another 16GB or $300 extra for a big SSD? ;)
[23:23] <shwaill> I see your point
[23:23] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: thanks for the tip, although I have never noticed any difference between the two to be honest :)
[23:24] <Kamilion|2> shwaill: I call it the poor man's SSD now that 8/16GB sticks have gotten so cheap.
[23:24] <dr_willis> Noobuntu:  often when people cant login or change some setting.. its due to sudo nautilus messing with their configs and making them owned by root.
[23:24] <Kamilion|2> and the magic of tmpfs makes everything yummy.
[23:24] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: ohh ok
[23:25] <shwaill> what's the best and fastest Ubuntu version ?
[23:26] <dr_willis> shwaill:  totally depends on your needs.
[23:26] <dr_willis> 'lightest' = Lubuntu
[23:26] <shwaill> Web Development, 3d graphics
[23:26] <dr_willis> then xubuntu,   then  perhaps kubuntu then ubuntu from a 'system resources' need
[23:27] <dr_willis> shwaill:  any of them will do  for that stuff
[23:27] <silverslimer> ubuntu is worth trying though. unity seems like crap at first but once you stick to it, it becomes awesome.
[23:27] <kevin> hey all. is there a command i can use that will replace all symbolic links with the file they are actually linked to?
[23:27] <shwaill> Blender 3d. I also use VM for win and running sony vegas (at least that's what I'm thinking)
[23:27] <shwaill> dr_willis: thanks :)
[23:27] <Noobuntu> i personally like gnome 3
[23:27] <dr_willis> Unity is gainign some neat features  with each new release
[23:27] <Kamilion|2> i don't mind gtk3 -- but I dislike the unity crap they stuck us with.
[23:27] <silverslimer> noobuntu: i used to as well ... but a lot of the things that unity does right aren't well executed in gnome 3
[23:27] <shwaill> silverslimer: I've got ubuntu running in my pc, I think it's the previous version before unity
[23:27] <silverslimer> mind you i love gnome 3 as well
[23:27] <Noobuntu> i think its pretty awesome thatt u can customize the hell out of it using plain javascript
[23:28] <Kamilion|2> that would be useful if I knew javascript instead of python.
[23:28] <Kamilion|2> But I'm a sysadmin, not a webmonkey, sooooooo
[23:28] <silverslimer> i love how going to the top-left in gnome 3 is your one way to do everything
[23:28] <silverslimer> works well
[23:28] <Noobuntu> i am a die hard javascript fan
[23:28] <kevin> nm, guess i can do it with find
[23:28] <dr_willis> id rahter it  do it with Python . ;) but thats not how it is..
[23:28] <Kamilion|2> silverslimer: yeah -- if you have a mouse. It's REALLY REALLY annoying when you're on a touchpad that you can't modify the acceleration values for.
[23:29] <Noobuntu> there are limits to what you can do with unity as far as customization goes I guess
[23:29] <Kamilion|2> especally for something like IRC where you're constantly clicking at the bottom of the window to focus the input field.
[23:29] <Noobuntu> but maybe I dont know enough :)
[23:29] <Jordan_U> Kamilion|2: Why can't you modify the accelleration values?
[23:30] <jamesfrank> #ubuntu-ops
[23:30] <Kamilion|2> Jordan_U: I um,... er... use a motorola lapdock with some HDMI adapters to connect to my desktop...
[23:30] <Kamilion|2> I don't have the space for a full keyboard/mouse/monitor workstation :<
[23:31] <dr_willis> Noobuntu:  i find that a GOOD thing in some cases.
[23:31] <silverslimer> Kamilion|2, i used it on a touchpad. it wasn't bad at all
[23:31] <Kamilion|2> Jordan_U: http://liliputing.com/2012/06/turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-laptop-with-a-70-motorola-lapdock.html
[23:31] <Kamilion|2> silverslimer: it's only annoying when the cursor drags really slowly
[23:31] <Kamilion|2> Jordan_U: works on anything with an HDMI port
[23:32] <Noobuntu> dr_willis: If i liked my choices restricted, I d be using windows :)
[23:32] <Noobuntu> Kamilion|2: you can modify the acceleration values
[23:32] <Noobuntu> I use a touchpad myself
[23:32] <silverslimer> if i wanted to use gnome 3's shell in ubutnu rather than unity, it's just a matter of installing gnome-shell right?
[23:32] <dr_willis> Noobuntu:  i  spend way to much time UNDOING customaziations various idiots ^h^h^h^h  people  have done on differnt devices/pcs/os's
[23:32] <tambu> Hey all, I have an old install and was doing upgrade to 11 and then to 12.04 however after reboot on 12.04 I can't get the xorg to come up.. I think it's a driver issue. from what I've read I need to be on 12.10 (w/ kernel) for a fix.. problem is I only have ssh access.. Can I do an ubuntu upgrade to 12.10 from console?
[23:32] <dr_willis> ;)
[23:32] <Noobuntu> silverslimmer: yes
[23:32] <Kamilion|2> Noobuntu: sadly, not this one. It presents itself as a USB mouse -- not a synaptics/tptouch  touchpad.
[23:33] <silverslimer> good .. is the ubuntu software center seen in ubuntu's gnome 3 iteration?
[23:33] <Kamilion|2> IE, cursor+left/right click only. No multitouch, no two finger scrolling, no side-bar/top-bar scrolling, etc etc etc
[23:33] <i7c> silverslimer: you mean if you can access it?
[23:33] <hashem> silverslimer, it's just an application, so you can still open it
[23:34] <Noobuntu> Kamilion|2: ohh - wonder why thats happening.. I assume you have installed the latest synaptics driver and not using the default one that comes with the installation
[23:34] <silverslimer> ahh, nice then. i guess i'll have to keep using unity for a bit to see if i still prefer gnome. unity is pretty nice admittedly.
[23:34] <OerHeks> tambu, sure, do a development upgrade > do-release-upgrade -d
[23:34] <Kamilion|2> Noobuntu: I believe it is because it's supposed to be connecting to a Motorola Atrix android phone -- which only supports USB mice, not external touchpads with kernel module / evdev drivers like synaptics
[23:34] <dr_willis> silverslimer:  check out the list of indicator-applets and   quicklists at the askubuntu.com site
[23:35] <tambu> OerHeks: hrm I tried it with the -d and it comes back with "No new release found"
[23:35] <tambu> OerHeks: but "cat /etc/issue" shows Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[23:35] <juliancho> ubuntu esp??
[23:35] <trism> tambu: you need to enable normal upgrades: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QuantalQuetzal/TechnicalOverview/Beta1#Upgrading_from_Ubuntu_12.04_LTS (really more of a #ubuntu+1 issue though)
[23:36] <juliancho> someone has installed eden eternal on ubuntu
[23:36] <juliancho> ?
[23:36] <Kamilion|2> Noobuntu: IIRC the Atrix was one of the last of the Gingerbread phones, and a lot of gingerbread phones don't even have USB on the go support in their chipsets... Some do but have it disabled; others (like motorola) have patched Gingerbread to support it.
[23:36] <Noobuntu> Kamilion|2: I see
[23:36] <Kamilion|2> Most of the Cyanogen derived images support it -- but rooting/flashing your phone isn't something the average person does.
[23:37] <daemongpl> this linux box is dragging down my network (voip on windows box) starts dropping packets and call drops... Other devices start working when i disconnect this ubuntu 12.04 laptop from my ssid. Any thoughts? bad wireless driver???
[23:37] <Kamilion|2> Let alone with a vendor provided accessory. :)
[23:37] <juliancho> someone has installed eden eternal on ubuntu ?
[23:37] <tambu> trism just to check can I safely do the upgrade from an SSH console? or do I need to boot into a recovery console? not sure if it updates ssh server during the upgrade might break something
[23:37] <Kamilion|2> daemongpl: probably an issue with fair airtime, or the device has an 802.11B wireless adapter and is forcing everything down to 11mbit max
[23:38] <trism> tambu: you can upgrade over ssh, it usually isn't an issue
[23:38] <Kamilion|2> daemongpl: most 802.11N access points will degrade back to B or G speeds if there is even a single non N or non G device in the area.
[23:38] <daemongpl> Kamilion|2, gonna try N only AP settings to see if that clears it up
[23:39] <Kamilion|2> daemongpl: also -- try 40Mhz channels if you have support for it on both sides.
[23:39] <tambu> trism thx for the url I got the release-upgrades fixed.. here go nothing :)
[23:39] <OerHeks> tambu, else you can boot in recovery mode, hold shift at boot
[23:39] <Kamilion|2> daemongpl: that resolved some issues I was having with getting my netbook and my buffalo openwrt (running HEAD) working together
[23:39] <Kamilion|2> but that's my fault for running HEAD ;)
[23:40]  * Kamilion|2 looks at the battery charger... 94%
[23:40] <wellwhy> I still have the same theme problem, it is not showing up and I still cannot have the theme become ugnrayed and the exclamation point to go away
[23:40] <drecute> Please does anyone have success installing activemq 5.6 on ubuntu server 12.04?
[23:40] <Kamilion|2> nearly time for me to get on the road and use my fancy mobile ubuntu case
[23:41] <Kamilion|2> drecute: google says http://stackoverflow.com/questions/11441865/activemq-not-running-on-ubuntu-12-04
[23:41] <eutheria> are .desktop file not launchers like they used to be?
[23:42] <Kamilion|2> drecute: also, this bug may be relevant: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/activemq/+bug/1000396
[23:43] <Kamilion|2> drecute: would you like me to continue doing google searches on your behalf, or are you a big boy now who can search on your own?
[23:43] <Kamilion|2> :3
[23:43] <GunArm> i am installing lamp with tasksel and it seems to have frozen at 78% during the mysql-server-5.5 install.  what do I do?  I have other terminals open, I could task kill it, but is that safe?
[23:43] <wellwhy> Can anyone help me with my Gnome theme problem still? It has not been resolved
[23:44] <juliancho> alguien ha instalado eternal eden
[23:44] <tambu> OerHeks: I held shift on boot and it took me to grub launcher I picked recovery kernel... it started showing console output but then it jumped to a blank screen where it normally boots X11 that normal?
[23:44] <daemongpl> Kamilion|2, anything here you think i should change http://i.imgur.com/nPUEf.png
[23:45] <OerHeks> tambu, do you get a prompt?
[23:45] <Kamilion|2> daemongpl: not offhand.
[23:45] <tambu> OerHeks: nope blank/black screen.. same as on non-recovery boot.. the server loads as far as I can tell which is why I think it's a video driver issue
[23:46] <tambu> OerHeks: does holding shift "show the grub menu" or do I keep holding shift after i pick recovery?
[23:47] <wellwhy> Can someone help with Gnome Themes
[23:47] <b3ef> Anyone setup jabberd2 before?
[23:48] <OerHeks> tambu strange, go back to normal boot, use SSH to enter your install, and maybe the server-upgrade part on this page works, http://ubuntulife.net/upgrade-to-ubuntu-12-10-from-ubuntu-12-04/  >> sudo apt-get install update-manager-core >> Edit  /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades file and set Prompt=normal >>Now Launch the Ubuntu upgrade tool with the fallowing command:  sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[23:48] <tambu> OerHeks: ok thx
[23:49] <drecute> Kamilion|2: maybe you have better keywords than I do
[23:49] <wellwhy> Anyone able to help with Gnome?
[23:51] <Noobuntu> wellwhy: please paste the contents of ~/.themes folder here
[23:52] <GunArm> can anyone please give me some advice about how to proceed when tasksel is hung?
[23:52] <GunArm> i cant go home because its running in an ssh terminal from work
[23:52] <b3ef> I'm trying to setup a Jabber server on Ubuntu Server 12.04. When I connect with Pidgin I get 'Invalid response from server'.
[23:52] <b3ef> The error only occurs when authentication passes. If I use a bad username and/or password, I get a message saying authentication failed.
[23:53] <wellwhy> Adawaita, AgingGorilla, Ambiance, Atlanta, Bright, Clearlooks, Crux, Defualt, Emacs, Esco, HighContrast, HighCOntrastInverse, Industrial, Low contrast, Metabox, Mist,Radiance,Raleigh,Redmon,Simple, and Thin Ice
[23:53] <wellwhy> All are folder
[23:53] <Noobuntu> Are any of these shell themes? I don't think so
[23:53] <Kamilion|2> drecute: "ubuntu 12.04 activemq" was my query ;)
[23:53] <wellwhy> Not even sure.
[23:53] <wellwhy> The folder doesnt have a period in front either
[23:53] <Noobuntu> download something like "London Smoke"
[23:53] <wellwhy> Im not sure if that is bad
[23:54] <Kamilion|2> GunArm: kill off mysqld, then wait until apt has finished up, then dpkg-reconfigure mysql
[23:54] <drecute> Kamilion|2:  i did not install from apt
[23:54] <zykotick9> b3ef: i'd try ##jabber perhaps... good luck.
[23:54] <drecute> i install 5.6 manually
[23:54] <b3ef> zykotick9, I asked in there too. Very few people, so I asked here.
[23:54] <wellwhy> Should I put it in the folder
[23:54] <drecute> will remove and install from apt
[23:54] <Kamilion|2> drecute: no idea. do other java applications work?
[23:55] <drecute> yup
[23:55] <Noobuntu> yes, put it in the .themes folder
[23:55] <zykotick9> b3ef: i haven't run a jabber server in years, so i'm no help - sorry.
[23:55] <b3ef> no worries
[23:55] <Kamilion|2> drecute: are you sure it's not a stupid issue with openjdk 6 / 7 or requires SUN java 6 or some other idiot requirement like that?
[23:55] <b3ef> thank you regardless
[23:55] <Kamilion|2> IE, minecraft shits bricks on openjdk, and runs fine on sun java.
[23:56] <Kamilion|2> err s/shits/shat/
[23:56] <wellwhy> Alright Noobuntu it is inside the folder
[23:56] <Noobuntu> restart your gnome tweak tool and see if its enabled
[23:56] <wellwhy> Alright
[23:57] <drecute> Kamilion|2: i'm installing from apt now
[23:57] <drecute> hoping things work right
[23:58] <wellwhy> It is still greyed out with an orange exclamation point and I cant find London Smoke anywhere
[23:58] <wellwhy> Also it may be a problem that I have to turn off User Theme Extensions in the website every time to open it up
[23:58] <wellwhy> Then turn it back on
[23:58] <Noobuntu> what website?
[23:59] <wellwhy> https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/19/user-themes/
[23:59] <wellwhy> this was the only way to get the extension
[23:59] <wellwhy> using terminal and sudo-apt-get
[23:59] <wellwhy> wouldnt work
[23:59] <Noobuntu> its sudo apt-get
[23:59] <Noobuntu> it should have worked