[02:02] <drupin> hello peepz
[03:24] <cadeonehalf> anyone know how to fix sound issues on Macbook Pro 3,1? I'm in 12.04, and I can see it's an old problem. I've tried unmuting everything with alsamixer, as well as installing pulseaudio (neither worked), and I've added the model code (mbp3) in the alsa-base.conf file, which seemed to work for other people but didn't for me. Currently, the laptop speakers return no sound, and I can get VERY
[03:24] <cadeonehalf> quiet sound when I plug in headphones
[03:37] <holstein> cadeonehalf: you can see its an old problem?
[03:37] <holstein> oh, the headphone jack doesnt trigger the speakers to mute or something?
[03:37] <cadeonehalf> well, there are a bunch of similar errors circa 2008 (when the 3,1 first came out)
[03:38] <holstein> thats pretty light i say
[03:38] <holstein> i wouldnt sweat that
[03:38] <cadeonehalf> I'm not certain what the issue is, it's a fresh install of 12.04 and I get zero sound
[03:38] <holstein> cadeonehalf: open a terminal and run
[03:38] <holstein> aplay -l
[03:38] <holstein> do you see a device?
[03:39] <cadeonehalf> yup, Intel ALC889A
[03:39] <holstein> cadeonehalf: you are using ubuntustudio? XFCE?
[03:39] <cadeonehalf> um, Ubuntu 12.04
[03:39] <cadeonehalf> I was redirected here from the main IRC
[03:40] <holstein> so, you have pulse installed by default.. what have you done so far?
[03:40] <holstein> anything that would break anything?
[03:40] <cadeonehalf> perhaps
[03:40] <holstein> if it were me, i would load up a live CD, and just tweak til it works
[03:40] <holstein> alsamixer is a good place to start
[03:40] <holstein> trying different kernels.. like the live 12.10 CD..
[03:40] <holstein> trying different alsa revs
[03:41] <holstein> cadeonehalf: also, install pavucontrol and run that
[03:41] <cadeonehalf> pavucontrol?
[03:41] <holstein> cadeonehalf: i would do that first.. pavucontrol
[03:41] <cadeonehalf> kk, I'll go try that for a moment
[03:41] <holstein> thats easy, and wont break anything
[03:46] <cadeonehalf> ok, got the pulseaudio installed
[03:46] <holstein> cadeonehalf: pulseaudio is installed by default.. you shouldnt need to install it
[03:46] <holstein> cadeonehalf: if it wasnt installed, we should look at your installer disc
[03:46] <cadeonehalf> well, I got the volume control from the software center
[03:47] <holstein> pavucontrol
[03:47] <holstein> ok.. run that and take a look at what device is being used
[03:48] <cadeonehalf> k, it's using Built-in Audio Digital Stereo
[03:48] <cadeonehalf> and when I un-mute it, the red light in my headphone jack turns on
[03:49] <holstein> cadeonehalf: that seems promising
[03:50] <holstein> i remember having to do something tricky to get my macbook sound working, but it did work
[03:50] <holstein> that was the least of the issues however
[03:50] <holstein> i geve up on it a few weeks in
[03:50] <holstein> gave*
[03:50] <cadeonehalf> ok, and when that red light is on, I get barely audible sound
[03:50] <cadeonehalf> weird, the sound is the only issue I've run into
[03:50] <holstein> cadeonehalf: but, you get sound?
[03:51] <holstein> cadeonehalf: look in alsamixer
[03:51] <cadeonehalf> When I plug headphones into the jack I get sound
[03:51] <holstein> hit f5 and tweak *everything*
[03:51] <cadeonehalf> nothing from the speakers
[03:52] <holstein> cadeonehalf: when i say "tweak everything" i mean, trust no labels
[03:54] <cadeonehalf> well, nothings muted in the alsamixer but still no sound from the speakers, and the same barely-audible sound in headphones
[03:54] <cadeonehalf> tweaked everything
[03:54] <holstein> cadeonehalf: ok.. assuming you havent done anything to break functionality, i would consider trying different alsa versions
[03:54] <holstein> i would look for and apply all updates
[03:55] <holstein> i would tri the 12.10 version, since it has a newer kernel
[03:55] <holstein> i would try 10.04 live since it has an older one
[03:55] <holstein> i would try live CD's til something works.. then i would note the kernel and alsa versions
[03:55] <cadeonehalf> wait, so 12.10 version or 10.04 live?
[03:55] <holstein> cadeonehalf: i would try whatever
[03:56] <cadeonehalf> k
[03:56] <holstein> whatever i can load live
[03:56] <cadeonehalf> thanks for the help
[03:56] <holstein> til something works
[03:56] <holstein> it
[03:56] <holstein> it'll be an alsa version that supports it
[03:56] <holstein> cadeonehalf: i assume you looked by the device at the wiki pages?
[03:56] <holstein> cadeonehalf: i remember some helpful pages on my macbook there
[03:56] <cadeonehalf> yeah
[03:57] <holstein> i had a 1,1 or 1,2
[03:57] <cadeonehalf> I think they're a little out of date because the modprobe.d file structure has changed a lot since they wrote those guides
[03:57] <holstein> cadeonehalf: they should work great for 10.04 :)
[03:57] <cadeonehalf> k, I'll try to get that installed.
[03:57] <holstein> cadeonehalf: just try it live
[03:58] <cadeonehalf> this may sound stupid, but what do you mean by live?
[03:58] <holstein> i wouldnt install anything til i sort out how to support all the hardware im interested in supporting
[03:58] <holstein> cadeonehalf: the LIVE cd's.. the installer cd's
[03:58] <cadeonehalf> ah ok
[03:58] <holstein> you just try them live
[03:58] <holstein> without installing
[03:58] <holstein> its an easy way to try different kernels and alsa versions without changing anything on your system
[05:49] <SirFunk> hmm. is there no hardware monitoring for firewire devices?
[05:50] <ailo> SirFunk: Depends on the device
[05:50] <ailo> HW monitoring implies the monitoring is done inside the device
[05:51] <ailo> Most devices have internal routing for that
[05:51] <SirFunk> ahh.. mine does but perhaps it's not supported on linux
[05:52] <ailo> The ffado-mixer should reveal stuff, but it can be hard to tell which is what if the names are weird
[05:57] <drupin> some thing is amking water like noise
[05:57] <drupin> making*
[05:58] <drupin> in new install
[05:59] <SirFunk> ailo: ffado-mixer has nothing about monitor
[06:08] <drupin> how i install flash player and plugins
[06:57] <cbx33> hey guys
[06:57] <cbx33> anyone here use guitarix?
[09:28] <asker> anybody ?
[09:28] <smartboyhw> Me here also
[09:28] <nothingspecial> oooops
[09:28] <asker> hımm
[09:28] <smartboyhw> lol
[09:28] <smartboyhw> Wow wait suddenly EVERYBODY comes here
[09:28] <asker> my alt+ctrl+f1-f6 texts is too big
[09:29] <asker> smatboyhw
[09:29] <smartboyhw> asker: Provide a screenshot is better in anything:)
[09:29] <asker> smatboyhw :
[09:29] <asker> can we screen shot in alt+ctrl+f1
[09:29] <asker> smatboyhw : ?
[09:29] <nothingspecial> you need to use console-setup
[09:30] <nothingspecial> you can screenshot with fbi
[09:30] <asker> how
[09:30] <smartboyhw> Or just use Print Screen lol
[09:30] <asker> ?
[09:30] <smartboyhw> asker: Use print screen key
[09:30] <nothingspecial> fbgrab I mean
[09:31] <nothingspecial> you can view it with fbi
[09:31] <smartboyhw> asker: Read https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/screen-shot-record.html
[09:31] <asker> not in desktop
[09:31] <nothingspecial> http://www.digipedia.pl/man/doc/view/fbgrab.1/
[09:32] <asker> ,only in command virtual4
[09:32] <smartboyhw> asker: You can select the active window
[09:32] <asker> smartboy
[09:32] <asker> look
[09:32] <nothingspecial> smartboyhw: asker is using the console
[09:32] <smartboyhw> Oh no
[09:32] <asker> finelly
[09:32] <smartboyhw> You mean the terminal?
[09:32] <asker> somebody understood me
[09:32] <asker> no
[09:33] <smartboyhw> !?
[09:33] <asker> in alt+ctrl+f1
[09:33] <nothingspecial> you need to screenshot using fbgrab
[09:33] <nothingspecial> but you may need to alter the permissions for thr framebuffer
[09:33] <nothingspecial> try it though
[09:34] <asker> 1 min
[09:34] <asker> to i ll back
[09:34] <nothingspecial> k
[09:35] <asker> how can i use this
[09:35] <asker> explams?
[09:35] <nothingspecial> fbgrab -c 4 -s 2
[09:36] <nothingspecial> if you are in tty4
[09:36] <asker>  how can i use this [12:35] <asker> explams?
[09:36] <nothingspecial> might need sudo if you don't have permission to use the framebuffer
[09:36] <smartboyhw> Sorry thanks to the console I don't how to get out of it
[09:36] <smartboyhw> Is the problem solved?
[09:36] <asker> no
[09:36] <asker> not yet
[09:36] <smartboyhw> For safety sake use sudo
[09:37] <asker> yes
[09:37] <asker> but what is code
[09:37] <nothingspecial> fbgrab -c 4 -s 2
[09:38] <nothingspecial> but you can change the console font with console-setup
[09:39] <nothingspecial> I think
[09:39] <asker> 1 min
[09:41] <asker> http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/31271262.png/
[09:41] <asker> but im using 1366*768
[09:42] <asker> its too big
[09:42] <smartboyhw> Uh what is that
[09:42] <smartboyhw> I never used the console
[09:42] <asker> in startup i see 2 second and i dont like
[09:42] <asker> 4
[09:43] <smartboyhw> nothingspecial: Since I have no experience with console would you please help:)
[09:44] <nothingspecial> maybe you need to change the resolution in /etc/default/grub
[09:45] <asker> how
[09:46] <smartboyhw> nothingspecial: I see no resolution thing in /etc/default/grub
[09:47] <smartboyhw> Ah yes I saw it now:)
[09:47] <smartboyhw> asker: Type "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub"
[09:47] <nothingspecial> gedit will not work in the console smartboyhw
[09:47] <smartboyhw> Ah alright
[09:48] <asker> but
[09:48] <asker> i can use it in terminal
[09:48] <nothingspecial> nano
[09:49] <smartboyhw> asker: If you have access to terminal then use it:)
[09:49] <nothingspecial> but be very careful because you could break stuff
[09:49] <asker> but in startup before plymouth
[09:49] <asker> i can see it for 2 second
[09:50] <asker> after reboot ?
[09:50] <asker> will it be
[09:50] <smartboyhw> ...
[09:50] <nothingspecial> asker, you either need to use console-setup or edit /etc/default/grub, this problem is not ubuntustudio specific, you should try asking in #ubuntu
[09:51] <smartboyhw> Yep but then
[09:51] <smartboyhw> note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE
[09:51] <asker> if it not specific why it be only studio , not be in ubuntu
[09:51] <asker> what's different
[09:52] <nothingspecial> ah, then it is ubuntustudio
[09:52] <smartboyhw> asker: 1. Do you have that problem in Ubuntu? 2. Do you have that problem in Xubuntu?
[09:52] <smartboyhw> If then both answers are no then it is a Studio issue
[09:52] <asker> i know what differnt letter in front of ubuntu
[09:53] <nothingspecial> I have no idea why ubuntustudio would behave this way asker
[09:53] <smartboyhw> NO idea for me too
[09:53] <smartboyhw> ailo: PING
[09:53] <asker> me too
[09:53] <smartboyhw> Well I am not a dev
[09:53] <smartboyhw> So I dunno too
[09:54] <smartboyhw> Sadly len-dt has not woken up
[09:54] <asker> i have a question too
[09:54] <smartboyhw> asker: Please
[09:55] <smartboyhw> do ask your question:)
[09:55] <asker> at reboot , before oem logo i hear kind of sound like litte bang
[09:55] <smartboyhw> bang?
[09:56] <smartboyhw> On my experience there has NEVER been a bang
[09:56] <asker> from speakears
[09:56] <asker> but i cant expleams only with bang
[09:56] <smartboyhw> Ow man where's ailo?
[09:57] <asker> if you wait for 3 min i will record
[09:57] <smartboyhw> OK then
[10:01] <smartboyhw> Oh
[10:03] <smartboyhw> Oh asker is back:)
[10:04] <asker> yes
[10:04] <asker> i'm uploading
[10:04] <smartboyhw> ;)
[10:04] <asker> %50
[10:04] <smartboyhw> ;)
[10:05] <asker> but i m saying it is being only when ubuntu installed
[10:05] <smartboyhw> asker: !?
[10:05] <asker> when windows installed
[10:05] <asker> i didnt hear that sound
[10:06] <smartboyhw> asker: So you have Ubuntu Studio and Windows installed?
[10:06] <asker> only studio
[10:06] <asker> http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=282161805229827&saved
[10:06] <smartboyhw> I am starting to think it is the system shutdown sound
[10:06] <smartboyhw> No the link is not working
[10:06] <asker> http:/ /www.facebook.com/video          /video.php?v=282161805229827&saved
[10:07] <smartboyhw> NO
[10:07] <smartboyhw> Ah yes
[10:07] <asker> nowü
[10:07] <asker> its work
[10:07] <smartboyhw> Well it maybe the hardware then
[10:07] <smartboyhw> srsly IDK
[10:07] <asker> 0:03 to 0:004
[10:08] <smartboyhw> ID
[10:08] <smartboyhw> K
[10:08] <asker> but it is only about linux
[10:08] <smartboyhw> asker: Does that happen in NORMAL ubuntu?
[10:09] <smartboyhw> Or even Fedora or openSUSE or GNU?
[10:09] <asker> it is being with all linux dist
[10:09] <asker> ubuntu , studio , suse ,fedora , mint , debian
[10:10] <asker> i tried those
[10:10] <smartboyhw> Hmm then IDK even more
[10:10] <smartboyhw> Anyway gotcha go see ya
[10:19] <ailo> asker: Whatever happens before the bios logo shows up, when you power on the machine, it has nothing to do with any OS
[10:20] <ailo> Don't know about rebooting though. There is usually a "system beep" when you do that
[10:20] <asker> windows was installed 4 day ago
[10:20] <asker> and sound wasnt then
[10:20] <ailo> asker: I'm just telling you the facts
[10:20] <ailo> If your computer is not on, and you power it on. If you hear a sound, it is because of the bios
[10:21] <ailo> asker: I never understood. Was it GRUB menu that was too large, or a console screen?
[10:22] <asker> i intalled ubuntu 4 day ago . a month ago and six monht ago
[10:22] <chimbo> hey guys
[10:22] <asker> and i use it for 2 week
[10:22] <chimbo> sorted out the guitarix issue
[10:22] <asker> after i installed windows7
[10:22] <asker> but
[10:22] <asker> i never hear this
[10:23] <ailo> asker: The size of the console, when you co Ctrl + Alt + F1 is probably due to your graphic drivers. Nvidia?
[10:23] <asker> yes
[10:23] <asker> but
[10:23] <asker> desktop
[10:23] <asker> is normal size
[10:23] <ailo> I know. I have the same thing
[10:24] <chimbo> i liked the terminal font size in knoppix
[10:24] <asker> but
[10:24] <asker> terminal size is normal too
[10:24] <asker> only in tty
[10:24] <ailo> asker: Same here. It's the graphic card
[10:24] <asker> whatever
[10:24] <asker> ican fix it
[10:25] <asker> but this sound makes me crazy
[10:28] <ailo> asker: One way is to disconnect the speaker
[10:28] <ailo> There's a little speaker in the computer
[10:28] <ailo> Never heard of anyone having problems with a reboot system beep
[10:29] <ailo> If you disconnect it, you'll be sure to not hear any sound, no matter what you install
[10:30] <asker> okey
[10:30] <ailo> asker: If you only want to disable system sounds for Linux, it's possible to do that in the system scripts
[10:31] <ailo> I don't know exactly which one. You'd have to google. It's located in /etc/rc* something. halt probably
[10:31] <ailo> "halt"
[10:31] <asker> i lll search
[10:36] <asker> i did something
[10:36] <asker> i ll look
[12:48] <keithl> holstein: You mentioned some firewire interfaces yesterday that would work well without too much hassle (you were helping me with the RME issue).
[12:49] <keithl> Could you (or anyone) repeat suggestions? I could not get it working yesterday and need something that will pretty much work out of the box
[12:56] <cfhowlett> keithl: check the presonus site.  while not advertised as linux compatible, many of their devices seem to work with ubuntu out of the box.
[13:01] <ailo-w> keithl: I suggest you ask ffado channel or list about your device
[13:01] <ailo-w> Since it's labeled full support, it seems strange you can't get it to work
[13:02] <ailo-w> Maybe it's your firewire port?
[13:02] <keithl> ailo-w: I did try last night -nobody home it appears.
[13:02] <keithl> ailo-w: I can try again
[13:02] <ailo-w> What does ffado-diag tell you?
[13:02] <ailo-w> Building ffado isn't the best place to start IMO
[13:03] <ailo-w> keithl: Best chance for a reply is on the mail list
[13:03] <keithl> ailo-w: It is finding the drivers, but throws a number of errors. What seems to be the case is that the version in the latest beta does not have the code that supports the RME, but I am really new at using firewire and it quite possibly could be user error.
[13:04] <keithl> ailo-w: I've been reading the list - I'll post something and see what comes up.
[13:04] <ailo-w> keithl: I'd like to see the jack error log, if you have it
[13:04] <keithl> ailo-w: Just getting into it, there are a lot of moving parts, making it hard to see where the real issue is
[13:05] <keithl> Ok - have to switch machines and I'll post the log.
[13:09] <keithl2> ailo-w: Here is the output from jackd
[13:10] <ailo-w> keithl2: Put it up on paste.ubuntu.com
[13:10] <keithl2> ailo-w: Here is what I get from ffado-diag
[13:11] <keithl2> ailo-w: Ok - one moment
[13:12] <keithl2> ailo-w: ffado-diag http://paste.ubuntu.com/1198611/
[13:14] <ailo-w> keithl2: I was just looking at the ffado version for Quantal. And also the one falktx has built
[13:15] <ailo-w> Seems like none are of the version where someone reported success
[13:15] <ailo-w> But, I'm not sure that means your version shouldn't work
[13:15] <ailo-w> Er, no. Strange that.
[13:16] <keithl2> ailo-w: I looked at those as well - the success versions seemed to be only in the latest trunk
[13:16] <ailo-w> Ok, so if we try to build it then..
[13:16] <ailo-w> What header was missing now again?
[13:16] <keithl2> ailo-w: It was devicemanager.h that was missing
[13:16] <keithl2> ailo-w: fwiw, here
[13:17] <keithl2> ailo-w: here's the jack dumup - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1198618/
[13:18] <keithl2> ailo-w: My *guess* was that devicemanager.h was part of a gnome lib/app that is not installed, but that's only a guess
[13:19] <ailo-w> Been a while since I tried building ffado
[13:19] <ailo-w> I also had to build jack, if I remember correctly
[13:20] <keithl2> ailo-w: I think that is right - the inst I found said you had to build both
[13:20] <keithl2> ailo-w: I REAlly appreciate the help - unf. I have to head to work. Should be back online in a while.
[13:21] <keithl2> ailo-w: Did you see any hints in the logs?
[13:22] <ailo-w> keithl2: I can't build it myself right now. Don't have the space
[13:22] <ailo-w> No hints.
[13:22] <ailo-w> I can give it a try when I get home
[13:22] <ailo-w> keithl2: I'll let you know how it went
[13:22] <keithl2> ailo-w: Thanks! Since I am not logged in all the time, is there a way for you to send me a message
[13:23] <keithl2> ailo-w: Somewhat of a newbie to irc as well :-)
[13:23] <ailo-w> keithl2: I can post the instructions on ubuntustudio-user mail list
[13:23] <keithl2> ailo-w: that would be great!
[13:24] <smartboyhw> Hi ailo-w keithl2
[13:24] <keithl2> ailo-w: Thanks again.
[13:24] <keithl2> smartboyhw: Hello
[13:25] <ailo-w> keithl2: np
[13:25] <keithl2> ailo-w: ttyl
[13:25] <keithl> exit
[16:08] <asker> i installed ubuntu studio and i installed gnome but when i control volume on keyboard  my volume seem in box bottom of screen lowresorution
[16:08] <asker> amybody  hear me?
[16:09] <holstein> asker: i see what you are typing, if thats what  you mean by "hear"
[16:09] <holstein> asker: i have not used gnome3, though ailo does
[16:09] <holstein> asker: does everything seem nomal in the ubuntustudio XFCE session?
[16:10] <asker> yes
[16:10] <holstein> asker: what volume control are you using?
[16:10] <asker> ipulse
[16:10] <asker> pulse
[16:10] <holstein> asker: pulse is not the volumen control GUI though, correct?
[16:10] <holstein> asker: what is displaying in a way you feel is not correct?
[16:11] <asker> yes
[16:11] <asker> then can you say me controler
[16:11] <asker> of ubuuntu
[16:12] <holstein> asker: you are looking for a volume control?
[16:12] <holstein> asker: i would try adding what is available in gnome3
[16:12] <holstein> see what looks and works best
[16:13] <asker> i cant find name ofi
[16:14] <holstein> asker: it? the gnome volume control?
[16:14] <holstein> asker: i would just add other ones, assuming there are other options
[16:14] <holstein> asker: i would try asking in the ubuntu gnome respin channel when that is established
[16:15] <holstein> you might fine a gnome3 user in #ubuntu if ailo doesnt show up soon enough for you
[16:17] <asker> i was in ubuntu
[16:17] <asker> ch
[16:17] <asker> they send me there
[16:18] <holstein> asker: sure. but you need gnome3 specific help
[16:19] <holstein> asker: we use and support XFCE
[16:19] <holstein> asker: if it were me, i would look for and apply all upgrades
[16:19] <holstein> asker: i would make a new user and test
[16:19] <holstein> asker: i would remove the current volume applet and just use pavucontrol
[16:19] <holstein> asker: i would try and look for and/or create a bug against gnome3
[16:23] <asker> thanks
[16:27] <holstein> asker: sound works otherwise? pavucontol works as expected?
[16:27] <asker> yes
[17:08] <asker> hi
[17:32] <asker> hi
[17:32] <asker> WHO CAN FIND ME PROGRAM LIKE DEADBOX
[17:32] <holstein> asker: what are you trying to do?
[17:34] <asker> five wrong password atemmp to delete my disk
[17:34] <holstein> asker: this is related to "deadbox" ?
[17:34] <ailo> asker: I saw that you had a problem with the volume image when using the keyboard to control the volume
[17:34] <holstein> im not familiar with "deadbox".. what are you trying to accouplish?
[17:34] <asker> ywa
[17:35] <asker> i want similar
[17:35] <asker> of
[17:35] <asker> deadbox
[17:35] <holstein> asker: lets assume i dont know what deadbox is, and you just have to explain the functionality you want
[17:36] <asker> deadbox is a program to secure user files
[17:36] <asker> if anybody try password for 5 times
[17:36] <asker> deadbox delete all user date program and os
[17:37] <holstein> asker: so you want to secure some files? i like to use truecrypt
[17:37] <holstein> asker: i wouldnt put all my faith in that... a forensic read of the disk might recover some data
[17:37] <ailo> holstein: Depends on how thoroughly you do it
[17:38] <ailo> I don't know in detail though
[17:38] <holstein> i dont see anything when i search "deadbox"
[17:38] <ailo> how about "suicide machine"
[17:39] <holstein> i know most folks encrypt, and true crypts is easy and full featured
[17:39] <holstein> truecrypt*
[17:39] <asker> my laptop
[17:40] <asker> supports encrypt
[17:40] <asker> data
[17:40] <asker> but
[17:40] <holstein> i mean, its all open, so you can just script that in theory
[17:40] <asker> i want to auto delte after 5 attemp
[17:40] <holstein> failed logins, start wiping data
[17:40] <ailo> Yeah, a simple script should do it
[17:41] <holstein> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1372793.html is relevant, though references truecrypt as i did
[17:41] <holstein> lots of jokes there too
[17:42] <holstein> i would just script something with the amount of passes that i would trust
[17:43] <holstein> personally, i would still want it encrypted
[18:15] <pandoras> so, here im again
[18:15] <pandoras> with the same problem
[18:15] <pandoras> cannot use the USB-stick, hangs at the loading screen, and this time i get informations
[18:16] <holstein> what usb stick? one you made to boot the ubuntustudio iso?
[18:18] <pandoras> NOT a sandisk, that was my fist try, then i switched to a kingston
[18:18] <pandoras> Kingston DataTraveler 102
[18:18] <holstein> the brand shouldnt matter... have you tried booting USB on this machine before? do you have another machine to test the USB stick on?
[18:19] <pandoras> holstein: it does load the bootmenu, and the splashscreen appears
[18:19] <holstein> pandoras: cool.. has it booted on another machine?
[18:19] <pandoras> and then it does nothing, so i figured out, it boots with the flag quiet
[18:20] <pandoras> so i removed this to get some information
[18:20] <holstein> pandoras: i wouldnt remove anything
[18:20] <holstein> its likely the graphics driver.. thats usually what hangs the boot up of the live media
[18:20] <pandoras> and the Part the boot-process is hanging is calles "Scanning disc for index files.."
[18:21] <holstein> pandoras: there are other options.. when tapping shift while booting, you see a bunch of options under F6
[18:21] <holstein> pandoras: if you want, take the stick to another machine.. preferably one that has successfully booted a live linux distro from USB
[18:21] <pandoras> i know, but thats not the Problem, the Problem is the boot-process is searching for some index files, but i dont know wich one are needed
[18:22] <holstein> pandoras: all that is needed is there
[18:22] <holstein> pandoras: you dont need to troubleshoot what is missing from the iso if:
[18:22] <pandoras> md5dum checked ...
[18:22] <holstein> you have confirmed the downloaded iso, and/or verified the USB stick
[18:22] <holstein> pandoras: OK. the md5 means the downloaded iso is good.. now you verify the stick
[18:22] <holstein> pandoras: i would just take it to another machine
[18:23] <pandoras> i hope my old dell laptop supports booting from USB
[18:23] <pandoras> brb
[18:23] <holstein> pandoras: plop allows that
[18:23] <holstein> booting usb on legace devices
[18:23] <holstein> i wouldnt waste time doint what you are doing though
[18:25] <pandoras> ups. its an i686 CPU xD
[18:26] <holstein> ups?
[18:31] <pandoras> ups ... its still a german word xD
[18:31] <holstein> pandoras: im not following you.. what do you mean by "up's its an i686 proc"?
[18:31] <holstein> you have the amd64 iso?
[18:32] <holstein> is ups = oops?
[18:33] <ailo> I guess he was trying amd64 on i686?
[18:35] <pandoras> ailo: exactly, i forgot how old the Machine is
[18:36] <holstein> i think its worthwhile in your position to download a 32bit iso and make a 32bit stick and test it on the other machine
[18:36] <holstein> then, see what it takes to get that *same* stick to boot on the other machine
[18:37] <holstein> there are lots of options in that f6 menu to try
[18:47] <pandoras> found some more useful parameter
[18:47] <pandoras> brb
[18:58] <pandoras> after i discovered, it exist a special flag, to use explicit on the USB it makes no different
[19:08] <holstein> Pici: correct.. that is not the issue.. you wont need any special USB flags, or extra files
[19:08] <holstein> Pici: sorry...
[19:08] <holstein> pandoras: ^^
[19:08] <holstein> pandoras: there are options under that F6 menu that might help