[02:02] hello peepz [03:24] anyone know how to fix sound issues on Macbook Pro 3,1? I'm in 12.04, and I can see it's an old problem. I've tried unmuting everything with alsamixer, as well as installing pulseaudio (neither worked), and I've added the model code (mbp3) in the alsa-base.conf file, which seemed to work for other people but didn't for me. Currently, the laptop speakers return no sound, and I can get VERY [03:24] quiet sound when I plug in headphones [03:37] cadeonehalf: you can see its an old problem? [03:37] oh, the headphone jack doesnt trigger the speakers to mute or something? [03:37] well, there are a bunch of similar errors circa 2008 (when the 3,1 first came out) [03:38] thats pretty light i say [03:38] i wouldnt sweat that [03:38] I'm not certain what the issue is, it's a fresh install of 12.04 and I get zero sound [03:38] cadeonehalf: open a terminal and run [03:38] aplay -l [03:38] do you see a device? [03:39] yup, Intel ALC889A [03:39] cadeonehalf: you are using ubuntustudio? XFCE? [03:39] um, Ubuntu 12.04 [03:39] I was redirected here from the main IRC [03:40] so, you have pulse installed by default.. what have you done so far? [03:40] anything that would break anything? [03:40] perhaps [03:40] if it were me, i would load up a live CD, and just tweak til it works [03:40] alsamixer is a good place to start [03:40] trying different kernels.. like the live 12.10 CD.. [03:40] trying different alsa revs [03:41] cadeonehalf: also, install pavucontrol and run that [03:41] pavucontrol? [03:41] cadeonehalf: i would do that first.. pavucontrol [03:41] kk, I'll go try that for a moment [03:41] thats easy, and wont break anything [03:46] ok, got the pulseaudio installed [03:46] cadeonehalf: pulseaudio is installed by default.. you shouldnt need to install it [03:46] cadeonehalf: if it wasnt installed, we should look at your installer disc [03:46] well, I got the volume control from the software center [03:47] pavucontrol [03:47] ok.. run that and take a look at what device is being used [03:48] k, it's using Built-in Audio Digital Stereo [03:48] and when I un-mute it, the red light in my headphone jack turns on [03:49] cadeonehalf: that seems promising [03:50] i remember having to do something tricky to get my macbook sound working, but it did work [03:50] that was the least of the issues however [03:50] i geve up on it a few weeks in [03:50] gave* [03:50] ok, and when that red light is on, I get barely audible sound [03:50] weird, the sound is the only issue I've run into [03:50] cadeonehalf: but, you get sound? [03:51] cadeonehalf: look in alsamixer [03:51] When I plug headphones into the jack I get sound [03:51] hit f5 and tweak *everything* [03:51] nothing from the speakers [03:52] cadeonehalf: when i say "tweak everything" i mean, trust no labels [03:54] well, nothings muted in the alsamixer but still no sound from the speakers, and the same barely-audible sound in headphones [03:54] tweaked everything [03:54] cadeonehalf: ok.. assuming you havent done anything to break functionality, i would consider trying different alsa versions [03:54] i would look for and apply all updates [03:55] i would tri the 12.10 version, since it has a newer kernel [03:55] i would try 10.04 live since it has an older one [03:55] i would try live CD's til something works.. then i would note the kernel and alsa versions [03:55] wait, so 12.10 version or 10.04 live? [03:55] cadeonehalf: i would try whatever [03:56] k [03:56] whatever i can load live [03:56] thanks for the help [03:56] til something works [03:56] it [03:56] it'll be an alsa version that supports it [03:56] cadeonehalf: i assume you looked by the device at the wiki pages? [03:56] cadeonehalf: i remember some helpful pages on my macbook there [03:56] yeah [03:57] i had a 1,1 or 1,2 [03:57] I think they're a little out of date because the modprobe.d file structure has changed a lot since they wrote those guides [03:57] cadeonehalf: they should work great for 10.04 :) [03:57] k, I'll try to get that installed. [03:57] cadeonehalf: just try it live [03:58] this may sound stupid, but what do you mean by live? [03:58] i wouldnt install anything til i sort out how to support all the hardware im interested in supporting [03:58] cadeonehalf: the LIVE cd's.. the installer cd's [03:58] ah ok [03:58] you just try them live [03:58] without installing [03:58] its an easy way to try different kernels and alsa versions without changing anything on your system [05:49] hmm. is there no hardware monitoring for firewire devices? [05:50] SirFunk: Depends on the device [05:50] HW monitoring implies the monitoring is done inside the device [05:51] Most devices have internal routing for that [05:51] ahh.. mine does but perhaps it's not supported on linux [05:52] The ffado-mixer should reveal stuff, but it can be hard to tell which is what if the names are weird [05:57] some thing is amking water like noise [05:57] making* [05:58] in new install [05:59] ailo: ffado-mixer has nothing about monitor [06:08] how i install flash player and plugins [06:57] hey guys [06:57] anyone here use guitarix? [09:28] anybody ? [09:28] Me here also [09:28] oooops [09:28] hımm [09:28] lol [09:28] Wow wait suddenly EVERYBODY comes here [09:28] my alt+ctrl+f1-f6 texts is too big [09:29] smatboyhw [09:29] asker: Provide a screenshot is better in anything:) [09:29] smatboyhw : [09:29] can we screen shot in alt+ctrl+f1 [09:29] smatboyhw : ? [09:29] you need to use console-setup [09:30] you can screenshot with fbi [09:30] how [09:30] Or just use Print Screen lol [09:30] ? [09:30] asker: Use print screen key [09:30] fbgrab I mean [09:31] you can view it with fbi [09:31] asker: Read https://help.ubuntu.com/11.04/ubuntu-help/screen-shot-record.html [09:31] not in desktop [09:31] http://www.digipedia.pl/man/doc/view/fbgrab.1/ [09:32] ,only in command virtual4 [09:32] asker: You can select the active window [09:32] smartboy [09:32] look [09:32] smartboyhw: asker is using the console [09:32] Oh no [09:32] finelly [09:32] You mean the terminal? [09:32] somebody understood me [09:32] no [09:33] !? [09:33] in alt+ctrl+f1 [09:33] you need to screenshot using fbgrab [09:33] but you may need to alter the permissions for thr framebuffer [09:33] try it though [09:34] 1 min [09:34] to i ll back [09:34] k [09:35] how can i use this [09:35] explams? [09:35] fbgrab -c 4 -s 2 [09:36] if you are in tty4 [09:36] how can i use this [12:35] explams? [09:36] might need sudo if you don't have permission to use the framebuffer [09:36] Sorry thanks to the console I don't how to get out of it [09:36] Is the problem solved? [09:36] no [09:36] not yet [09:36] For safety sake use sudo [09:37] yes [09:37] but what is code [09:37] fbgrab -c 4 -s 2 [09:38] but you can change the console font with console-setup [09:39] I think [09:39] 1 min [09:41] http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/705/31271262.png/ [09:41] but im using 1366*768 [09:42] its too big [09:42] Uh what is that [09:42] I never used the console [09:42] in startup i see 2 second and i dont like [09:42] 4 [09:43] nothingspecial: Since I have no experience with console would you please help:) [09:44] maybe you need to change the resolution in /etc/default/grub [09:45] how [09:46] nothingspecial: I see no resolution thing in /etc/default/grub [09:47] Ah yes I saw it now:) [09:47] asker: Type "gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub" [09:47] gedit will not work in the console smartboyhw [09:47] Ah alright [09:48] but [09:48] i can use it in terminal [09:48] nano [09:49] asker: If you have access to terminal then use it:) [09:49] but be very careful because you could break stuff [09:49] but in startup before plymouth [09:49] i can see it for 2 second [09:50] after reboot ? [09:50] will it be [09:50] ... [09:50] asker, you either need to use console-setup or edit /etc/default/grub, this problem is not ubuntustudio specific, you should try asking in #ubuntu [09:51] Yep but then [09:51] note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE [09:51] if it not specific why it be only studio , not be in ubuntu [09:51] what's different [09:52] ah, then it is ubuntustudio [09:52] asker: 1. Do you have that problem in Ubuntu? 2. Do you have that problem in Xubuntu? [09:52] If then both answers are no then it is a Studio issue [09:52] i know what differnt letter in front of ubuntu [09:53] I have no idea why ubuntustudio would behave this way asker [09:53] NO idea for me too [09:53] ailo: PING [09:53] me too [09:53] Well I am not a dev [09:53] So I dunno too [09:54] Sadly len-dt has not woken up [09:54] i have a question too [09:54] asker: Please [09:55] do ask your question:) [09:55] at reboot , before oem logo i hear kind of sound like litte bang [09:55] bang? [09:56] On my experience there has NEVER been a bang [09:56] from speakears [09:56] but i cant expleams only with bang [09:56] Ow man where's ailo? [09:57] if you wait for 3 min i will record [09:57] OK then [10:01] Oh [10:03] Oh asker is back:) [10:04] yes [10:04] i'm uploading [10:04] ;) [10:04] %50 [10:04] ;) [10:05] but i m saying it is being only when ubuntu installed [10:05] asker: !? [10:05] when windows installed [10:05] i didnt hear that sound [10:06] asker: So you have Ubuntu Studio and Windows installed? [10:06] only studio [10:06] http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=282161805229827&saved [10:06] I am starting to think it is the system shutdown sound [10:06] No the link is not working [10:06] http:/ /www.facebook.com/video /video.php?v=282161805229827&saved [10:07] NO [10:07] Ah yes [10:07] nowü [10:07] its work [10:07] Well it maybe the hardware then [10:07] srsly IDK [10:07] 0:03 to 0:004 [10:08] ID [10:08] K [10:08] but it is only about linux [10:08] asker: Does that happen in NORMAL ubuntu? [10:09] Or even Fedora or openSUSE or GNU? [10:09] it is being with all linux dist [10:09] ubuntu , studio , suse ,fedora , mint , debian [10:10] i tried those [10:10] Hmm then IDK even more [10:10] Anyway gotcha go see ya [10:19] asker: Whatever happens before the bios logo shows up, when you power on the machine, it has nothing to do with any OS [10:20] Don't know about rebooting though. There is usually a "system beep" when you do that [10:20] windows was installed 4 day ago [10:20] and sound wasnt then [10:20] asker: I'm just telling you the facts [10:20] If your computer is not on, and you power it on. If you hear a sound, it is because of the bios [10:21] asker: I never understood. Was it GRUB menu that was too large, or a console screen? [10:22] i intalled ubuntu 4 day ago . a month ago and six monht ago [10:22] hey guys [10:22] and i use it for 2 week [10:22] sorted out the guitarix issue [10:22] after i installed windows7 [10:22] but [10:22] i never hear this [10:23] asker: The size of the console, when you co Ctrl + Alt + F1 is probably due to your graphic drivers. Nvidia? [10:23] yes [10:23] but [10:23] desktop [10:23] is normal size [10:23] I know. I have the same thing [10:24] i liked the terminal font size in knoppix [10:24] but [10:24] terminal size is normal too [10:24] only in tty [10:24] asker: Same here. It's the graphic card [10:24] whatever [10:24] ican fix it [10:25] but this sound makes me crazy [10:28] asker: One way is to disconnect the speaker [10:28] There's a little speaker in the computer [10:28] Never heard of anyone having problems with a reboot system beep [10:29] If you disconnect it, you'll be sure to not hear any sound, no matter what you install [10:30] okey [10:30] asker: If you only want to disable system sounds for Linux, it's possible to do that in the system scripts [10:31] I don't know exactly which one. You'd have to google. It's located in /etc/rc* something. halt probably [10:31] "halt" [10:31] i lll search [10:36] i did something [10:36] i ll look === TheDrums is now known as Guest38162 === nothingspecial is now known as Not === Not is now known as nothingspecial [12:48] holstein: You mentioned some firewire interfaces yesterday that would work well without too much hassle (you were helping me with the RME issue). [12:49] Could you (or anyone) repeat suggestions? I could not get it working yesterday and need something that will pretty much work out of the box [12:56] keithl: check the presonus site. while not advertised as linux compatible, many of their devices seem to work with ubuntu out of the box. [13:01] keithl: I suggest you ask ffado channel or list about your device [13:01] Since it's labeled full support, it seems strange you can't get it to work [13:02] Maybe it's your firewire port? [13:02] ailo-w: I did try last night -nobody home it appears. [13:02] ailo-w: I can try again [13:02] What does ffado-diag tell you? [13:02] Building ffado isn't the best place to start IMO [13:03] keithl: Best chance for a reply is on the mail list [13:03] ailo-w: It is finding the drivers, but throws a number of errors. What seems to be the case is that the version in the latest beta does not have the code that supports the RME, but I am really new at using firewire and it quite possibly could be user error. [13:04] ailo-w: I've been reading the list - I'll post something and see what comes up. [13:04] keithl: I'd like to see the jack error log, if you have it [13:04] ailo-w: Just getting into it, there are a lot of moving parts, making it hard to see where the real issue is [13:05] Ok - have to switch machines and I'll post the log. [13:09] ailo-w: Here is the output from jackd [13:10] keithl2: Put it up on paste.ubuntu.com [13:10] ailo-w: Here is what I get from ffado-diag [13:11] ailo-w: Ok - one moment [13:12] ailo-w: ffado-diag http://paste.ubuntu.com/1198611/ [13:14] keithl2: I was just looking at the ffado version for Quantal. And also the one falktx has built [13:15] Seems like none are of the version where someone reported success [13:15] But, I'm not sure that means your version shouldn't work [13:15] Er, no. Strange that. [13:16] ailo-w: I looked at those as well - the success versions seemed to be only in the latest trunk [13:16] Ok, so if we try to build it then.. [13:16] What header was missing now again? [13:16] ailo-w: It was devicemanager.h that was missing [13:16] ailo-w: fwiw, here [13:17] ailo-w: here's the jack dumup - http://paste.ubuntu.com/1198618/ [13:18] ailo-w: My *guess* was that devicemanager.h was part of a gnome lib/app that is not installed, but that's only a guess [13:19] Been a while since I tried building ffado [13:19] I also had to build jack, if I remember correctly [13:20] ailo-w: I think that is right - the inst I found said you had to build both [13:20] ailo-w: I REAlly appreciate the help - unf. I have to head to work. Should be back online in a while. [13:21] ailo-w: Did you see any hints in the logs? [13:22] keithl2: I can't build it myself right now. Don't have the space [13:22] No hints. [13:22] I can give it a try when I get home [13:22] keithl2: I'll let you know how it went [13:22] ailo-w: Thanks! Since I am not logged in all the time, is there a way for you to send me a message [13:23] ailo-w: Somewhat of a newbie to irc as well :-) [13:23] keithl2: I can post the instructions on ubuntustudio-user mail list [13:23] ailo-w: that would be great! [13:24] Hi ailo-w keithl2 [13:24] ailo-w: Thanks again. [13:24] smartboyhw: Hello [13:25] keithl2: np [13:25] ailo-w: ttyl [13:25] exit [16:08] i installed ubuntu studio and i installed gnome but when i control volume on keyboard my volume seem in box bottom of screen lowresorution [16:08] amybody hear me? [16:09] asker: i see what you are typing, if thats what you mean by "hear" [16:09] asker: i have not used gnome3, though ailo does [16:09] asker: does everything seem nomal in the ubuntustudio XFCE session? [16:10] yes [16:10] asker: what volume control are you using? [16:10] ipulse [16:10] pulse [16:10] asker: pulse is not the volumen control GUI though, correct? [16:10] asker: what is displaying in a way you feel is not correct? [16:11] yes [16:11] then can you say me controler [16:11] of ubuuntu [16:12] asker: you are looking for a volume control? [16:12] asker: i would try adding what is available in gnome3 [16:12] see what looks and works best [16:13] i cant find name ofi [16:14] asker: it? the gnome volume control? [16:14] asker: i would just add other ones, assuming there are other options [16:14] asker: i would try asking in the ubuntu gnome respin channel when that is established [16:15] you might fine a gnome3 user in #ubuntu if ailo doesnt show up soon enough for you [16:17] i was in ubuntu [16:17] ch [16:17] they send me there [16:18] asker: sure. but you need gnome3 specific help [16:19] asker: we use and support XFCE [16:19] asker: if it were me, i would look for and apply all upgrades [16:19] asker: i would make a new user and test [16:19] asker: i would remove the current volume applet and just use pavucontrol [16:19] asker: i would try and look for and/or create a bug against gnome3 [16:23] thanks [16:27] asker: sound works otherwise? pavucontol works as expected? [16:27] yes [17:08] hi [17:32] hi [17:32] WHO CAN FIND ME PROGRAM LIKE DEADBOX [17:32] asker: what are you trying to do? [17:34] five wrong password atemmp to delete my disk [17:34] asker: this is related to "deadbox" ? [17:34] asker: I saw that you had a problem with the volume image when using the keyboard to control the volume [17:34] im not familiar with "deadbox".. what are you trying to accouplish? [17:34] ywa [17:35] i want similar [17:35] of [17:35] deadbox [17:35] asker: lets assume i dont know what deadbox is, and you just have to explain the functionality you want [17:36] deadbox is a program to secure user files [17:36] if anybody try password for 5 times [17:36] deadbox delete all user date program and os [17:37] asker: so you want to secure some files? i like to use truecrypt [17:37] asker: i wouldnt put all my faith in that... a forensic read of the disk might recover some data [17:37] holstein: Depends on how thoroughly you do it [17:38] I don't know in detail though [17:38] i dont see anything when i search "deadbox" [17:38] how about "suicide machine" [17:39] i know most folks encrypt, and true crypts is easy and full featured [17:39] truecrypt* [17:39] my laptop [17:40] supports encrypt [17:40] data [17:40] but [17:40] i mean, its all open, so you can just script that in theory [17:40] i want to auto delte after 5 attemp [17:40] failed logins, start wiping data [17:40] Yeah, a simple script should do it [17:41] http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1372793.html is relevant, though references truecrypt as i did [17:41] lots of jokes there too [17:42] i would just script something with the amount of passes that i would trust [17:43] personally, i would still want it encrypted [18:15] so, here im again [18:15] with the same problem [18:15] cannot use the USB-stick, hangs at the loading screen, and this time i get informations [18:16] what usb stick? one you made to boot the ubuntustudio iso? [18:18] NOT a sandisk, that was my fist try, then i switched to a kingston [18:18] Kingston DataTraveler 102 [18:18] the brand shouldnt matter... have you tried booting USB on this machine before? do you have another machine to test the USB stick on? [18:19] holstein: it does load the bootmenu, and the splashscreen appears [18:19] pandoras: cool.. has it booted on another machine? [18:19] and then it does nothing, so i figured out, it boots with the flag quiet [18:20] so i removed this to get some information [18:20] pandoras: i wouldnt remove anything [18:20] its likely the graphics driver.. thats usually what hangs the boot up of the live media [18:20] and the Part the boot-process is hanging is calles "Scanning disc for index files.." [18:21] pandoras: there are other options.. when tapping shift while booting, you see a bunch of options under F6 [18:21] pandoras: if you want, take the stick to another machine.. preferably one that has successfully booted a live linux distro from USB [18:21] i know, but thats not the Problem, the Problem is the boot-process is searching for some index files, but i dont know wich one are needed [18:22] pandoras: all that is needed is there [18:22] pandoras: you dont need to troubleshoot what is missing from the iso if: [18:22] md5dum checked ... [18:22] you have confirmed the downloaded iso, and/or verified the USB stick [18:22] pandoras: OK. the md5 means the downloaded iso is good.. now you verify the stick [18:22] pandoras: i would just take it to another machine [18:23] i hope my old dell laptop supports booting from USB [18:23] brb [18:23] pandoras: plop allows that [18:23] booting usb on legace devices [18:23] i wouldnt waste time doint what you are doing though [18:25] ups. its an i686 CPU xD [18:26] ups? [18:31] ups ... its still a german word xD [18:31] pandoras: im not following you.. what do you mean by "up's its an i686 proc"? [18:31] you have the amd64 iso? [18:32] is ups = oops? [18:33] I guess he was trying amd64 on i686? [18:35] ailo: exactly, i forgot how old the Machine is [18:36] i think its worthwhile in your position to download a 32bit iso and make a 32bit stick and test it on the other machine [18:36] then, see what it takes to get that *same* stick to boot on the other machine [18:37] there are lots of options in that f6 menu to try [18:47] found some more useful parameter [18:47] brb [18:58] after i discovered, it exist a special flag, to use explicit on the USB it makes no different [19:08] Pici: correct.. that is not the issue.. you wont need any special USB flags, or extra files [19:08] Pici: sorry... [19:08] pandoras: ^^ [19:08] pandoras: there are options under that F6 menu that might help