[02:45] <xubuntu825> Hi there, I have some trouble to install Kolourpaint in Xubuntu 12.04 :(
[02:47] <xubuntu825> i have no problem to install it on Xubuntu 12.10 :s
[02:48] <xubuntu825> 11.10 ...
[02:48] <Unit193> Open synaptic search for kolourpaint4  or terminal sudo apt-get install kolourpaint4
[02:49] <xubuntu825> i tried that and get
[02:49] <xubuntu825> errors :/
[02:51] <xubuntu825> its xubuntu 12.04 a unstable distro?
[02:52] <Azelphur> xubuntu825: no
[02:52] <Azelphur> it's release, LTS
[02:52] <xubuntu825> i am using the 64 bit version
[02:52] <Azelphur> me too
[02:53] <xubuntu825> and cant install allegro 5 repository :( xorg-dev
[02:54] <Azelphur> !elaborate | xubuntu825
[02:56] <xubuntu825> Im using  Xubuntu 12.04. I tried with sudo apt-get install kolourpaint4 and it says "depends: kde-runtime but it will no install"
[02:57] <Azelphur> xubuntu825: paste the full output on http://pastebin.com
[02:58] <xubuntu825> http://pastebin.com/eL7f8fdx
[02:58] <xubuntu825> its in spanish :S
[05:18] <doug_carmichael> How can I change the resolution of the lightdm login screen to 1280x1024? I've changed the desktop resolution successfully from within xfce, but I see that ubuntu's xorg.conf is a multi file version.
[05:18] <doug_carmichael> (Coming from FreeBSD)
[07:03] <xubuntu659> hello?
[07:04] <xubuntu659> anybody here?
[07:04] <Marzata> yes?
[07:58] <Lavvy> Were do get ubuntu experts to hire for a job
[07:59] <TheSheep> !canonical
[07:59] <Unit193> !crosspost | Lavvy
[08:00] <Lavvy> Ok thanks
[09:27] <recon_lap> ok, got a prixma 495 printing through cups, it's out of color ink but has black ink but can't get it to print anything, looked in the setting and it set to grayscale but still wont print !!!
[09:28] <recon_lap> I had it working a while ago but I think CUP's has been updated and now not working
[14:06] <designbybeck> Greetings all... I have an old off brand all in one system. It will boot the Xubuntu 12.04 32bit  ...I get to the try ubuntu grub, then it goes a lil' longer and goes black
[14:06] <designbybeck> I then tried to do a nomodeset and it still goes black
[14:07] <designbybeck> There is a similar 17" with only 256mb that I did get it running on
[14:07] <designbybeck> the 15" had 515mb but I can't seem to get any OS to boot on it
[14:07] <designbybeck> Linux that is... it had WinXP and it boots into the login screen
[14:08] <designbybeck> These are donated computers we are trying to get OSS on to give back to the community Please Advise
[14:22] <holstein> designbybeck: i would try "nomodeset".. using the vesa driver would be acceptable for donation machines
[14:22] <designbybeck> holstein:  i did try that
[14:23] <designbybeck> neither setting worked
[14:23] <designbybeck> with or without
[14:24] <holstein> designbybeck: i would try a puppy live CD.. something with a nice GUI for selecting the graphics driver.. it could be that its not the graphics causing the issue, i just find that it typically is
[14:24] <pimperle> hi
[14:24] <designbybeck> holstein: I did try MacPup, bassed on puppy.... it got a little farther it seemed
[14:24] <designbybeck> what is odd, is the 17" which doesn't have as much ram, loaded up xubuntu decently
[14:25] <holstein> designbybeck: sure.. the graphics card is likely supported still by the kernel..
[14:25] <designbybeck> ah
[14:26] <pimperle> i bought an ssd after the notebooks disk has died and now i'll reinstall the system. I'd like to have encryption of all private data on it and since locate stores its db outside of /home and private stuff also sometimes finds its way into logfiles at least /var wil have to be encrypted as well. Before I used full disk encryption, but i'm afraid that the core2duo will be to slow to decrypt data at the
[14:26] <pimperle> ssds speed. Hence i think of usia split setup.
[14:26] <holstein> designbybeck: when you boot up puppy, select the vesa driver and try it.. you can grab the xorg.conf from there as well
[14:26] <pimperle> is there already a preferred way to make sure, that no private data gets stored unencrypted, while the system data is stored unencrypted?
[14:26] <holstein> designbybeck: sometimes i do that and drop that in after using an alternate CD to install
[14:26] <designbybeck> ok I might try just puppy linux
[14:27] <pimperle> i thought of dual booting with system-partitions only (for updates) and full boot with system-partitions RO and open encrypted partitions. readonly system partitions/volumes will then prevent spillage of private data
[14:27] <holstein> pimperle: the speed is effected by encryption.. if you want encryption, you'll have to use it, if you dont want the overhead, dont use it.. you can use something like truecrypt
[14:27] <pimperle> is this the way to go? Setting up dual boot sounds like a lot of hassle to me and will surely be likely to break during upgrades.
[14:28] <pimperle> holstein: yes, i'll accept the slowdown for my private data (/home, /etc, etc.) but i'd like to have /usr and /lib and co unencrypted for faster access, since nothing private will/should be stored there.
[14:28] <pimperle> to make sure, nothing private goes there, i'd also like to have them read only.
[14:28] <pimperle> however it will take me days to set all that up properly
[14:29] <holstein> i would just encrypt the /home partition.. or just do what the installer does automatically
[14:29] <pimperle> and i'm curious, if there's a preferred, easier way
[14:29] <holstein> pimperle: the preffered/easy way is how the installer would just do it
[14:29] <pimperle> holstein: yes, but then all filenames will go plaintext into the locatedb on /var
[14:29] <holstein> pimperle: if you want something else, go for it.. i would also have no issues using something like truecrypt
[14:30] <pimperle> ok, then i'll think about my solution some more time and see, what i'll come up with
[14:31] <pimperle> i think what i need is basically a network boot (but from the local disk, but the system would be RO) merged with encrypted home/var/etc
[14:31] <designbybeck> holstein:  what is the puppy linux ubuntu compatilbe build?
[14:32] <designbybeck> I mean which would you recommend
[14:33] <holstein> designbybeck: i always just use them diagnostically... but the 2nd one here http://puppylinux.org/main/Download%20Latest%20Release.htm is the lucid based one
[14:34] <designbybeck> ok burning it now
[14:34] <holstein> pimperle: if it were me, i would try the default one, and go from there assuming the performance hit was not tolerable
[14:34] <designbybeck> I'll see how this goes
[14:35] <designbybeck> there are 40 of these 15" machines with 512mb... and 20 17" machines with 256mb
[14:35] <designbybeck> i've already tried to see if the ram could be changed out, but it isn't the same type :(
[14:40] <designbybeck> holstein: It didn't seem to like puppy, at least the screen went all crazy flashy... I did hear it bark at me though
[14:41] <holstein> designbybeck: with the vesa driver? maybe you should try another one of the machines just to be sure its not hardware related
[14:42] <designbybeck> hmm how do I set those on puppy?
[14:42] <designbybeck> i did see this machine boot into windows so I know the screen isn't bad
[14:42] <holstein> designbybeck: those? the vesa driver? at startup there is a wizard.. you select the vesa driver there
[14:42] <designbybeck> ok let me check
[14:50] <designbybeck> hmmm... holstein I tried at the boot prompt: puppy nomodeset
[14:50] <designbybeck> didn't seem to help, is that what you meant?
[14:51] <designbybeck> I didn't see anything in the basic help that said anythign about VESA.... nor nomodeset
[14:53] <holstein> designbybeck: i would literally try from the GUI at the beginning.. there are quite a few modes there... a big list
[14:53] <holstein> i usually just start on something i think will work with vesa
[14:53] <designbybeck> GUI at the beginning? ... I did the F2 for basic help, and saw the list
[14:53] <designbybeck> but nothing about VESA
[14:54] <holstein> designbybeck: it'll just popup before the desktop... talking about the resolution and using xorg or not
[14:54] <holstein> designbybeck: you can load it up on a desktop that is "working" and choose it from the menu and play with it
[15:01] <echonize> Hello.
[15:17] <designbybeck> so instead of using F2 basic help you mean F3 advanced help
[15:18] <holstein> designbybeck: its just a display wizard that pops up when i load the CD
[15:18] <designbybeck> i see the puppy screen.... and it says boot:
[15:19] <designbybeck> but if i just leave it it boots to desktop I guess? but blank and flashy, but I hear the dog bark
[15:19] <holstein> designbybeck: yup.. after that, you'll get a popup.. looks like curses.. it'll be the only thing talking about the screen resolution.. one option there is to switch drivers.. it'll say
[15:19] <designbybeck> this is the ubuntu based puppy
[15:19] <designbybeck> let me try the other one
[15:20] <designbybeck> yeah I haven't seen that screen i don't think holstein
[15:20] <holstein> designbybeck: yup.. ive see it on *every* puppy ive lauched.. its a handy way to test the vesa driver
[15:20] <holstein> designbybeck: if you see *anything* about screen resolution, then thats it
[15:20] <holstein> designbybeck: if you make it to the desktop and choose 'display settings" or whatever its called from the menu, this wizard launches
[15:20] <designbybeck> holstein: no i haven' t seen anything that gave me options about screen resolutions
[15:21] <designbybeck> yeah that is the thing, i can't get to desktop
[15:21] <holstein> designbybeck: right.. you should see that popup prior to desktop
[15:21] <holstein> designbybeck: i would try disabling acpi and other options.. maybe its that
[15:22] <holstein> designbybeck: i would load up the xubuntu live CD.. hit shift.. and choose *everything* from the F6 menu at the bottom
[15:22] <holstein> nomodeset.. noacpi or whatever they are called
[15:22] <holstein> eventually, you'll sort out what is keeping the OS's from loading
[15:22] <designbybeck> ah i haven't tried choosing everytrhing in xubuntu
[15:22] <designbybeck> i'll try that as well
[15:31] <recon69_lap> hi, if i want a bash script to run when i open a terminal i can just add a line to the ~/.bashrc ?
[15:34] <holstein> recon69_lap: i would probably try and add it to the launcher for the term-emulator
[15:35] <recon69_lap> holstein: launcher? and why that way?
[15:35] <holstein> recon69_lap: it'll launch when a start the terminal
[15:36] <san> Hi guys
[15:37] <san> Can anybody please help me with ECLIPSE in xface
[15:37] <recon69_lap> holstein: well, the launcher I assume is the GUI component, why would I move a level up from ~/.bashrc which runs when a terminal opens?
[15:37] <recon69_lap> san:  sure what up
[15:38] <holstein> recon69_lap: sure.. go for it.. i would just add the script there, and see if it starts.. if it doesnt you can explore other options
[15:38] <san> i downloaded eclipse juno. and copy pasted at Desktop
[15:38] <san> but when i am clicking eclipse its not starting
[15:39] <san> i need it very badly
[15:39] <recon69_lap> san, I start eclipse from a terminal using "sh eclipse" , you could try making a launcher to do the same
[15:39] <san> ok let me try with it
[15:40] <san> sh /home/san/Desktop/eclipse/eclipse /home/san/Desktop/eclipse/eclipse: 5: /home/san/Desktop/eclipse/eclipse: Syntax error: "(" unexpected
[15:40] <san> not working
[15:41] <bazhang> how was eclipse installed
[15:41] <san> copy pasted only.. earlier in ubuntu it was working fine
[15:42] <bazhang> and it was installed how?
[15:42] <recon69_lap> san, you copied the eclipse files from an old install to you new one?
[15:42] <recon69_lap> you/your
[15:42] <san> i downloaded tar file and extracted it.. but this time it is not working
[15:43] <bazhang> thats not the way to install it
[15:44] <bazhang> use the package manager or the command line to install it
[15:44] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install eclipse
[15:44] <bazhang> !info eclipse | san
[15:46] <holstein> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EclipseIDE is what i would reference
[15:47] <bazhang> there is also a channel here on freenode #eclipse
[16:07] <recon69_lap> ok, adding my setup script to bashrc was a bit pointless
[16:07] <recon69_lap> keychain setup that is
[17:17] <san> got it guys
[17:17] <san> Thank u all
[17:19] <bazhang> np
[18:44] <asenk2> Hi. Im installing xubuntu, but dont know how to partition for this (i have to manually partition since im installing on free space)
[18:45] <bazhang> you want a separate /home?
[18:45] <Sysi> using entire disk should work even for empty disk
[18:45] <asenk2> i want the default setup, but cant use entire disk
[18:47] <Sysi> swap formatted partition as big as your RAM (if you want to use hibernation) and rest ext4 for " / "
[18:47] <Sysi> primary partitions
[18:50] <asenk2> is that (ram sized swap and rest as ext4) the default xubuntu would do if i would use the entire disk?
[18:50] <knome> asenk2, i believe that is it
[18:50] <bazhang> yep
[18:51] <martinphone> how do I find out if im behind a nat?
[18:53] <Sysi> martinphone: traceroute
[18:58] <martinphone> would it be asking too much for the actual command?
[18:59] <Sysi> traceroute someurl.dom
[18:59] <Sysi> and see the steps
[19:01] <asenk2> you can also look what your computers ip is with "ifconfig" and then comparing that to some website which tell your ip (google whatismyip)
[19:17] <devnill> I'm having a problem where an application isn't showing up in my notification area
[19:17] <devnill> I've made sure that it isn't set to be hidden in the preferences but I still cant get it to show up
[19:19] <holstein> devnill: other applications show up there? what application? how was it installed? you mean, the list of running applications? or a menu item launcher?
[19:19] <devnill> the application is mumble
[19:20] <Sysi> does it give errors if you run it from terminal?
[19:20] <devnill> it was there previously and others still show up (skype, wifi, pidgin)
[19:20] <holstein> devnill: when i used mumble, there was an icon in the notification area
[19:20] <devnill> There was for me briefly and now its gone
[19:20] <holstein> devnill: did you upgrade it? do you need an icon in the notification area? did you remove the notification area?
[19:21] <devnill> I tried removing it and adding it again
[19:21] <devnill> I didn't upgrade
[19:21] <devnill> I just installed via apt a couple days ago
[19:21] <holstein> devnill: it being mumble? or the notification area?
[19:21] <devnill> the notification area
[19:21] <holstein> devnill: so, your notification area is broken?
[19:21] <devnill> I actually created a second panel and added the area to it
[19:21] <devnill> right
[19:21] <devnill> It displays most icons but some just never show up
[19:21] <holstein> devnill: and mumble works in the new location?
[19:22] <devnill> Mumble works fine, it just doens't show up in the notification space
[19:22] <holstein> devnill: i would create a new user and test there
[19:22] <devnill> alright
[19:22] <devnill> If that works I should just delete my .mumble?
[19:22] <devnill> or whatever the config is?
[19:22] <holstein> devnill: if there is nothing wrong with mumble, i would leave it alone
[19:23] <devnill> Well the problem is that when it minimizes it disappears
[19:23] <holstein> devnill: if other applications arent showing up in the notification area, then its likely an issue with the panel or something in XFCE
[19:23] <devnill> Thats my suspicion
[19:23] <devnill> I can't find any documentation on how it works though
[19:23] <devnill> its all really superficial
[19:24] <holstein> a new user will take your current config out of the equation
[19:24] <devnill> http://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-panel/systray
[19:25] <devnill> I think the root cause is that the icon shrinks to 1px x 1px
[19:25] <holstein> devnill: i have never needed to mess around in there... i would see how the new user works, and consider blowing out some config changes
[19:25] <devnill> its a known issue for skype
[19:25] <devnill> ok so it comes back if I quit mumble, log out without saving session and log back in
[19:26] <devnill> then when i start mumble up it comes back
[19:27] <martinphone> there is an app to see in gui mode our computer's traffic. it has an eye as logo
[19:27] <martinphone> can anyone help me find its name?
[19:28] <devnill> what kind of interface is it?
[19:28] <devnill> and do you have access to it running somewhere?
[19:30] <devnill> its not much of a monitoring package but the nmap gui is an eye
[19:30] <devnill> its called zenmap
[19:30] <devnill> http://www.ashep.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/11/zenmap-5-35dc1-icon.png
[19:30] <devnill> is that it martinphone?
[19:31] <martinphone> yes devnill thx
[19:33] <martinphone> how do I run is as root? must it be from terminal with sudo?
[19:35] <holstein> gksudo
[19:35] <martinphone> i mean the gui, id like to use the gui not the terminal to run it
[19:35] <holstein> martinphone: gksudo will launch the gui as root
[19:35] <holstein> !gksudo
[19:35] <martinphone> holstein, so will sudo, wm i wrong?
[19:35] <martinphone> am*
[19:36] <martinphone> aaa
[19:36] <martinphone> ok
[19:36] <devnill> gksudo if you need graphics
[19:36] <devnill> to be honest I think nmap is faster to use commandline
[19:37] <martinphone> but im a noob and need to see shiny and cool graphics, otherwise my brain melts
[19:38] <devnill> haha, I guess if you want to stay a noob thats a good mentality
[19:39] <martinphone> not really, learning basic linux commands and the correct way of writting them needs a time i dont have
[19:40] <devnill> What are you trying to do?
[19:41] <martinphone> get my static IP so I can use gnunet
[19:41] <devnill> sudo ifconfig
[19:41] <devnill> your ip will be listed
[19:42] <devnill> if you are on wireless, its generally wlan0
[19:42] <devnill> ethernet is usually eth0
[19:48] <martinphone> is nmap 5.21 outdated?
[19:49] <devnill> not sure
[19:49] <devnill> I think you might be barking up the wrong tree to be honest
[19:49] <devnill> nmap isn't made for network monitoring
[20:05] <martinphone> isee
[22:11] <Sajan> Silly question maybe, but I use ssh keys to login to servers.  My private key is password protected, I was wondering if there was a way for me to keep the key unlocked rather than having to unlock my private key each time I use it.
[22:12] <holstein> you could make keys without a password
[22:13] <holstein> i remember in gnome2, i would put the password in once per session login, and it would be "remembered".. im sure theres a way to do that
[22:16] <cf29toughbook> Anyone know how to make calibration using xinput-calibrator permanent? I've done it before w/ubuntu but now having xubuntu 12.04 am running into problems.
[22:16] <cf29toughbook> this is to make the touchscreen accurate.
[22:17] <Sajan> holstein, I don't want to have a password less private key for security reasons.  I do want the key locked when I restart my computer still.
[22:18] <holstein> Sajan: you are prompted every time in XFCE?
[22:19] <holstein> i remember it just being automatice when i was on gnome2 and by the time i had left gnome2 i was not using passwords anymore
[22:19] <Sajan> holstein, I'm actually using an app called Gnome Connection Manager.  I used it in Ubuntu and it worked just fine.  Now that I think of it, it may well be because of xfce
[22:20] <Sajan> holstein, supporting evidence to that is the password prompt is in the terminal, rather than an actual xfce dialog box.
[22:21] <holstein> Sajan: might be an additional ssh key agent you can add.. i might fire up a normal ubuntu live CD and see how it works there.. see what is installed and try and determine what that is... assuming its still there in unity
[22:22] <Sajan> holstein, it is in unity.  I'll look into a key agent.  Thanks.
[23:52] <devnill> .keave