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ScottKIt would be nice if someone other than me could install 4.8.5 from precise-proposed and then comment favorably on Bug  #1047417.02:16
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1047417 in meta-kde (Ubuntu Precise) "SRU tracking bug for KDE SC 4.8.5" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104741702:16
ScottKJontheEchidna: If you're around, I just ran into a muon updater problem on precise ....02:32
JontheEchidnaScottK: oh?02:33
ScottKTrying to do this all with GUI tools, I added -proposed to my software properties02:33
ScottKChecked for updates02:33
ScottKInstalled the packages I wanted to test02:33
ScottKThen I went back to software sources and unchecked whatever proposed is called and checked for updates again.02:34
ScottKIt didn't forget about the packages from proposed.02:34
ScottKI checked and proposed was indeed unchecked, so I had it check for updates again.02:34
ScottKThey still didn't go away.02:34
ScottKThen I did sudo apt-get update and they went away.02:34
ScottKSo somehow the check for updates wasn't forgetting about the removed repository or something similar.02:35
JontheEchidnahmm, interesting02:36
JontheEchidnaI'm not able to reproduce it in quantal, fwiw02:49
JontheEchidnathough I can't think of anything that would have changed02:50
ScottKIn precise it asked to mark extra packages and I told it no.02:58
ScottKDunno if that might have affected the state of things in some way.02:58
JontheEchidnaThat's basically the way of saying "do you want to apt-get dist upgrade"03:24
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shadeslayer!find libGLEW.so07:52
ubottuPackage/file libGLEW.so does not exist in quantal07:52
shadeslayer!find libGLEW.so precise07:52
ubottuFile libGLEW.so found in libglew1.5, libglew1.5-dev, libglew1.6, libglew1.6-dev07:52
* jussi waves08:49
vHandaapachelogger: ping09:31
apacheloggervHanda: pong09:49
vHanda:/ I have to go on. I'll ping you in about an hour09:49
vHandaIt was about using phonon to extract simple video metadata for the fileindexer09:50
kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1045755] assistant-qt4 crashed with SIGSEGV in MainWindow::updateApplicationFont() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1045755 (by Alexander Langanke)09:54
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1045755 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "assistant-qt4 crashed with SIGSEGV in MainWindow::updateApplicationFont()" [Medium,Fix released]09:54
apacheloggervHanda: seems like a rather fat dependency, I wonder if taglib wouldn't be the better choice10:08
BluesKaj_Hi all11:15
shadeslayerhahaha11:27
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/firefox/15.0.1+build1-0ubuntu211:27
Riddellshadeslayer: what did he break that needed coffee?11:35
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Quintasan_\o11:38
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apacheloggerlo11:39
BluesKajhi, lo ...hel-lo :)11:40
vHandaapachelogger: yeah. I thought so.12:10
vHandaTaglib is nice (and I am using it), but it doesn't support avi files12:10
vHandaand some other video files12:10
* vHanda goes back to reading the non existant ffmpeg documentation12:11
apacheloggerjust a matter of writing support12:11
apacheloggergenerally creating a full media pipeline just to read the few tags that video files have (or mostly not have) seems like way too expensive12:12
apacheloggervHanda: http://libav.org/documentation.html12:15
vHandayeah. It seems easier to read the header fiels12:16
apacheloggerlol12:16
apacheloggervHanda: you could just as well use phonon and use its queue then :P12:17
apacheloggerthe overhead of gstreamer ought not be much concern at this pont ;)12:17
apacheloggervHanda: http://paste.kde.org/547586/12:22
apacheloggersomething like that12:22
vHandaI'll see, I think I've managed to extract the duration and bitrate from ffmpeg12:23
apacheloggeras long as gapless transitioning works you should have next to no overhead from batch processing12:23
apacheloggervHanda: sandsmark can help with ffmpeg btw12:23
vHandagood to know. I'll bug him if I have problems12:25
shadeslayerRiddell: I have no idea :P12:31
shadeslayerit was funny though12:31
shadeslayerlooks like someone turned off composting on paste.kde.org12:33
shadeslayers/composting/compositing12:33
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shadeslayergreat, timeouts when retrying builds12:37
shadeslayer!find Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/python3.pm13:08
ubottuPackage/file Debian/Debhelper/Sequence/python3.pm does not exist in quantal13:08
shadeslayer!find python3.pm precise13:08
ubottuFile python3.pm found in python313:08
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RiddellI've concluded the best thing to do about print-manager is just to make it ignore failures in dbus calls to s-c-p14:06
Riddellanything else gets pretty messy in its use of s-c-p14:06
Riddelland as far as I can tell the dbus calls aren't very useful14:07
Riddellprinters are already in a sensible order without them and it does pre-select a good driver anyway14:07
shadeslayerso, 4.9.1 for precise should be ready within the next 12 hours if lp resolves the deps automatically14:15
shadeslayera major chunk of it has been built14:15
Riddellshadeslayer: how about for quantal?14:15
shadeslayer0.o14:15
tsdgeosisn't it therealready?14:15
tsdgeosi got it yesterday14:15
* shadeslayer gives Riddell some coffee14:15
shadeslayerRiddell: there were a couple of missing packages that yofel took care of14:16
shadeslayerbut yeah, all of it was uploaded a couple of days ago14:16
shadeslayerMonday iirc14:16
Riddellgreat14:16
RiddellScottK: a FFe for you in bug 104871214:26
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1048712 in ubiquity (Ubuntu Quantal) "FFe [kde] add LVM and LUKS options" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104871214:26
Riddellhmm I have no idea when to hold this meeting http://doodle.com/ep9bqbapvfh4r9aw14:29
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Riddelltomorrow at 18:00 would be good but it would probably have to be without me14:30
shadeslayeranyone free to try out the new KDevelop?14:55
shadeslayerit's here https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental14:56
Riddellcao do14:57
Riddellcan do14:57
shadeslayer:D14:57
Riddellshadeslayer: successfully installs, runs and executes the hello world I had set up last time I tried kdevelop15:03
shadeslayerawesome, will upload later tonight then15:03
shadeslayertehehe15:20
shadeslayerseeds need a bit of cleaning15:20
yofeldid anyone take care of mplayerthumbs?15:21
shadeslayeryou mean let it out of new?15:22
shadeslayeror something else?15:22
yofelis it in new?15:22
shadeslayerI believe it's a new source15:22
yofelwas just wondering if anyone filed the FFe15:23
apacheloggerno one packaged it for .015:23
apacheloggeryofel: terribly unlikely15:23
yofelas you said that everything was up15:23
shadeslayerdamn, CIA out15:23
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Mamarokhm, I must have missed some stuff apparently, but why is there no Calligra 2.5.1 for Quantal? Didn't it make the cut to be included in final?15:37
yofel!info calligra15:38
ubottucalligra (source: calligra): extensive productivity and creative suite. In component universe, is optional. Version 1:2.5.0-0ubuntu1 (quantal), package size 8 kB, installed size 71 kB15:38
shadeslayerwat15:38
yofelhm15:38
yofelno15:38
shadeslayerlp says 2.5.115:38
yofel *** 1:2.5.1-0ubuntu1 015:38
shadeslayeraye15:38
yofel        500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/universe amd64 Packages15:38
Mamarokthen something is wrong somewhere15:38
shadeslayerhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/calligra/1:2.5.1-0ubuntu215:39
* cmagina is looking at the latest updates on quantal for his system and sees calligra 2.5.115:39
Mamarokwell, apparently mine is still at 2.5.015:39
apacheloggerit built 9 hours ago15:39
cmaginamirror lag?15:39
apacheloggermight not be propagated to mirrors15:40
Mamarokright now I am struggling to get Qt4 packages, the main server is extremely slow15:40
Mamarokapachelogger: I don't use a mirror but the main server15:40
Mamarokbut might be right next in queue once I mange to download all that Qt stuff15:41
Mamarokmanage*15:41
apacheloggerIIRC archive.ubuntu itself is also a mirror15:42
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mparilloOn Beta-1, I applied my updates and I got: KDE - Be Free! Platform Version 4.9.116:07
mparilloMamarok: On Calligra (why could it not have been Kalligra), I get: Plan Version 2.5.1 Using KDE Development Platform 4.9.116:10
Mamarokmparillo: it shows correctly now, no idea why the update was not showing correctly earlier16:20
Mamarokand Kalligra looks horrible, we really don't need that K everywhere, that was funny 10 years ago16:20
* Mamarok knows why she suggested Calligra16:21
mparilloMamarok: I was not sure of the update either. All I know is I tend to accept them always, generally as soon as they appear. And I had been watching for 4.9.1, so I think it was within the last 24 hours or so.16:24
Mamarokwell, I actualy don't use the packages from the repo, I compile it myself locally, but I wanted to answer a forum post about the availability that's why I searched16:25
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ScottKRiddell: Approved.16:37
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debfxScottK: hey, do you have some time for NEW review today?17:03
ScottKdebfx: Maybe later.  I'm about 4 hours behind my plan for today due to car trouble.17:03
ScottKapachelogger: That's correct.  a.u.c is a mirror.17:13
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Riddelldebfx: what do you need?17:22
shadeslayermmm .. daily iso's seem to have a weird bug17:23
shadeslayerand who'd like to test KDE 4.9.1 for precise?17:23
debfxRiddell: NEW review for package sync. bug #104723917:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1047239 in Ubuntu "[FFe] Sync gammaray 1.2.1-2 (universe) from Debian unstable (main)" [Wishlist,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104723917:23
Riddelldebfx: I'm confused "Fine by me, if you can find an AA to NEW it for you before you sync" surely you need to sync before it can be reviewed in New17:27
debfxRiddell: yes, but an AA needs to commit to review it before I'm allowed to sync it17:28
Riddelloh gosh, a whole new level of beurocracy17:29
Riddellcommented17:29
debfxyay, thanks :)17:31
Riddelland it's from debian anyway, we often just accept packages from debian without more than a glance, debian are trustworthy enough17:31
debfxsynced17:31
debfxyeah I'm sure no one really reviews all those new packages from Debian every cycle17:32
david__what's the best place to file a bug about kubuntu-defaults?17:33
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debfxd_ed: probably kubuntu-default-settings17:35
Riddelld_ed: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+filebug17:35
d_edthanks. I tried looking for that, I get so confused by launchpad17:36
Riddellwe should have a shortcut for kde browsers to just take you to the package page but I think it's got lost at some point (unless I'm missing it)17:38
shadeslayerd_ed: after you file it, please assign it to me, I've mostly been working on that these days ;)17:48
d_edI don't know how to.17:49
d_edwell, I pressed "assigned to"17:49
d_edhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-default-settings/+bug/104997617:49
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1049976 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "KTp Presence Applet should be added to the system tray by default" [Undecided,New]17:49
d_edbut it said you don't exist17:49
shadeslayerprobably want to type in rohangarg17:49
shadeslayerthere, done ;)17:50
* ScottK grumbles.17:50
shadeslayerwow, k-d-s sure has alot of bugs17:50
d_edit's totally not rohan garg17:50
shadeslayerd_ed: no spaces ;)17:50
d_edItriedthattoo17:51
* d_ed shrugs17:51
shadeslayeroh hmm17:51
shadeslayerRiddell: can you approve the milestone on bug 104997617:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1049976 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Quantal) "KTp Presence Applet should be added to the system tray by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104997617:51
shadeslayeras well as the target 17:52
ScottKshadeslayer: What happened to MI?17:54
shadeslayerhaven't worked on it yet :(17:54
shadeslayerd_ed: ^ let's work on that this weekend?17:54
shadeslayerquestion, why do we have MI if only quassel uses it?17:55
d_edMI?17:55
shadeslayerand if ktp starts using it, that'll be a grand total of 217:55
shadeslayerd_ed: Message indicator17:55
d_edoh right17:55
shadeslayerand iirc you bought up a issue about that Akademy17:56
shadeslayeryay for gcc stack differences18:25
shadeslayeron quantal : /build/buildd/libkolabxml-0.7.0/src/uriencode.cpp:44:21: warning: invalid conversion from 'const void*' to 'void*' [-fpermissive]18:25
shadeslayersame thing on precise : /build/buildd/libkolabxml-0.7.0/src/uriencode.cpp:44:21: error: invalid conversion from 'const void*' to 'void*' [-fpermissive]18:26
shadeslayerif someone want's to look at that ^ libkolabxml is the only thing that's missing for kdepim-runtime18:27
ScottKKmail uses it as well.18:28
ScottKIf Ktp would use it, it's one icon in the systray instead of two and it gives you a nice history of stuff that you don't get otherwise.18:29
ScottKIf we aren't going to get Ktp integration done, I think we should remove MI from our default panel layout and put Quassel's systray icon back.18:29
tsimpsonshadeslayer: patch it (remove the const)18:30
shadeslayerwell, the last time we discussed this, it was clear that it wasn't straight forward to implement this18:30
shadeslayertsimpson: if you have access, feel free to do it, I'm exhausted :)18:30
shadeslayer( and that's what I was going to do tomorrow )18:31
shadeslayeralright, night everyone 18:31
tsimpsonI don't have access, but the const part looks like an error anyway curl_easy_unescape returns a char*18:31
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apacheloggeruh, that's slightly silly19:06
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yofelshadeslayer: IIRC randomly assigning other people to bugs is restricted to U-B-C now or so20:00
yofelshadeslayer: yup, if a bug supervisor exists, only that person/team can assign people to bugs other than themselves (https://help.launchpad.net/BugSupervisors)20:04
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shadeslayerfun20:12
shadeslayeryofel: see #kubuntu20:13
yofellolwut...20:14
shadeslayeraye ..20:14
tsdgeosyo20:14
tsdgeoscould you guys package the new attica so we stop getting those annoying "Using Attica with KDE support" messages?20:14
shadeslayeroh hai20:15
shadeslayerquantal?20:15
tsdgeosplz20:15
shadeslayerwe are in Feature Freeze, needs approval from release team gods if its not a bug fix release :P20:16
tsdgeosit's a bugfix20:17
tsdgeosit fixes the bug of being annoying20:17
shadeslayerany takers ^ ?20:18
RiddellI can look in a bit20:19
Riddellshadeslayer: bug 1049976 needs tagged kubuntu so we can keep track of it20:19
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1049976 in kubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu Quantal) "KTp Presence Applet should be added to the system tray by default" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104997620:19
shadeslayerdone20:20
yofelcan't we track our bugs in some other manner? like... stuff that kubuntu-bugs is subscribed to?20:22
yofelhm. no. query timeout :(20:23
shadeslayerwe should have a launchpad bug scrub down where we close really really old and irrelevant bugs20:24
apacheloggeryofel: then you should write a script to move the tagged ones to subscription ;)20:25
tsdgeoshey, at least assistant does not crash anymore20:25
tsdgeosthat was annoying20:25
apacheloggerthings not crashing is always good ^^20:26
yofelapachelogger: well, that would have been a possibility if I could actually get the bugs that kubuntu-bugs is subscribed to - but the DB's to sloow20:26
yofel-o20:26
apacheloggeroh, that is also not working?20:26
apacheloggerwhy that is silly20:26
apacheloggerwe could of course stop using lunchpad :P20:27
yofelapachelogger: enjoy the timeout: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bugs?field.structural_subscriber=kubuntu-bugs20:28
shadeslayeralmost impossibru since we are too tied in ...20:28
apachelogger yofelhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs/+subscribedbugs20:30
apacheloggeryofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs/+subscribedbugs20:30
apacheloggeruse the tool right20:30
apacheloggershadeslayer: nonesense20:30
apacheloggerwhere are we tied into the buggery?20:31
apachelogger90% of bugs go to kde anyway20:31
shadeslayercdimagery magic20:31
Riddellapachelogger: needs to be bugs nominated to quantal since that's how release-team track them20:31
shadeslayerpackages, packaging, ninjas, Kubuntu-ppa20:32
apacheloggerthen the team needs to use two sources or all of ubuntu needs to switch20:32
apacheloggertool fails to deliver -> fix tool or use another one20:32
yofelthose are direct subscriptions, I was querying for the package subscriptions20:32
yofelwhich is too much for LP20:32
apacheloggeryofel: https://bugs.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-bugs/+packagebugs20:32
* shadeslayer would rather someone fix lp than work against it20:32
shadeslayerhey, they fixed copying didn't they 20:33
debfxhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+bugs?field.structural_subscriber=kubuntu-bugs does not time out20:33
yofelapachelogger: now give me the result of the 2nd link shown like the fist20:33
apacheloggershadeslayer: one fix a year does not make the tool more viable :P20:33
apacheloggeryofel: what for?20:33
apacheloggerwhat's a use case for that?20:33
yofeldebfx: that's only for stuff that has a quantal task - but good idea, thanks20:33
shadeslayerapachelogger: one fix is better than no fix :P20:34
apacheloggershadeslayer: I guess that is why ubuntu is using lunchpad :P20:34
debfxyofel: right, but all the important bugs that we care about for quantal should be nominated20:34
yofelshadeslayer: libkolabxml FTBFS: Could NOT find Qt4 20:36
shadeslayerwhaaaa20:36
shadeslayerplease fix if you can since I was/am sleepy ( I did skip over the CMake output )20:38
shadeslayerplus, qt is only required for tests I think 20:40
ScottKapachelogger: Fixing crashes is not ALWAYS good.  Sometimes have a tool fail to crash so you can attempt to make use of it is at best a mixed blessing.20:41
ScottK;-)20:41
yofelI'll try to20:42
yofelme, the actual failure is in curl20:43
shadeslayeryofel: aye20:46
shadeslayerneeds patching20:47
shadeslayerremove the const like tsimpson said20:47
Riddellfregl: any changelog for attica?20:52
Riddellagateau_: is kded-appmenu something you've involved with? http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kde-announce-apps/2012-September/004931.html20:59
Riddellhum, meeting at 19:00UTC tomorrow?21:08
RiddellI'll just have to work out how to skip out early from running the canoe club21:09
Riddellfregl: attica doesn't seem to compile with -fvisibility=hidden21:18
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Quantal bugs: http://goo.gl/ESmab | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | apachelogger: SRU plymouth logo & fix ipod support | UDS-R: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-uds | Meeting Thursday 19:00UTC
RiddellMeeting Thursday 19:00UTC21:42
yofelJontheEchidna: does qaptworker do any precalculations before applying changes in quantal? When I just installed (189) updates, after pressing apply qaptworker was using 100%CPU for ~10s, memory usage went up to ~250MiB and the polkit authentication only came up after that. 10s feels a bit long for a stuck UI21:42
JontheEchidnayup, it's known to take a bit for large operations21:43
JontheEchidnaI'm working on making it better in QApt2 :)21:43
yofelok. I would already be happy if the password dialog came up before that as I could then just press enter and ignore it :)21:44
yofeland that's about the only issue I have with muon lately, works fine otherwise :)21:45
JontheEchidna:)21:45
JontheEchidnaiirc I changed it because the precalculations could cause the commit to not happen. (e.g. untrusted packages, lack of disk space) The reasoning being that it would be better to ask for authorization before it was actually doing something that needed authentication.21:46
yofeltrue21:46
JontheEchidnawith QApt2 it will be able to show more detailed progress, as well as hopefully mark large upgrades faster21:47
=== Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu-devel to: Kubuntu - Friendly Computing | Quantal bugs: http://goo.gl/ESmab | Status: http://goo.gl/ZGGJP | Packaging TODO: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-ninjas | apachelogger: SRU plymouth logo & fix ipod support | UDS-R: http://notes.kde.org/kubuntu-uds | Meeting Thursday 18:00UTC
Riddellsorry meeting at 18:00UTC21:48
xnoxRiddell: did you build your changes?21:54
xnox./tests/run-pep821:54
xnoxubiquity/frontend/kde_components/PartAuto.py:66:80: E501 line too long (103 characters)21:54
xnoxubiquity/frontend/kde_components/PartAuto.py:195:1: W293 blank line contains whitespace21:54
xnoxubiquity/frontend/kde_components/PartAuto.py:201:80: E501 line too long (110 characters)21:54
xnoxubiquity/frontend/kde_components/PartAuto.py:212:80: E501 line too long (108 characters)21:54
* xnox fixes....21:54
xnox=)))))21:56
Riddellxnox: gosh, strict22:03
xnoxRiddell: tell me about it =)22:04
xnoxRiddell: partly my fault. I got a complaint from a reviewer for using inconsistent style, and I replied well half of the code base does one thing, the other one does my thing...... I got a massive commit back fixing them all & enabling FTBFS on pep8 runs ;-)22:05
xnoxand a one line comment "your merge proposal fails test on build"22:06
* Riddell snoozes22:07
xnoxanyone making a release now, such that we can test kubuntu lvm/luks in tomorrow's dailies22:09
xnoxs/anyone/anyway/22:10
kubotuxnox meant: "anyway making a release now, such that we can test kubuntu lvm/luks in tomorrow's dailies"22:10
xnoxkubotu++ you are awesome22:10
kubotucheers!22:10
* xnox ubotu should learn tricks from kubotu22:10
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