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| eamon | how do I Switch to dvorak in Kubuntu? | 01:12 |
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| * eamon tried google but he could only find stuff from 2006 | 01:12 | |
| DarthFrog | eamon: System Settings/Input Devices/Keyboard/Layout | 01:14 |
| eamon | thanks DarthFrog | 01:42 |
| eamon | how do I install the latest gcc? | 01:42 |
| bazhang | !crosspost > eamon | 01:46 |
| ubottu | eamon, please see my private message | 01:46 |
| DarthFrog | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential | 01:46 |
| DarthFrog | All on one line. | 01:46 |
| eamon | DarthFrog: that didn't work | 01:49 |
| DarthFrog | Didn't it install a bunch of packages, including gcc? | 01:50 |
| eamon | DarthFrog yes but not the latest GCC | 01:58 |
| eamon | http://dpaste.de/uL0Ww/ | 01:58 |
| DarthFrog | Well, that will have been the current officially supported (by Canonical) version of GCC. If you want to go outside the distro's ecosystem, you're on your own. | 02:00 |
| DarthFrog | See if they're offering binary packages. If there's a DEB file, you can use dpkg to install it. | 02:00 |
| eamon | k | 02:02 |
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| eamon | DarthFrog: How do I add this to my aptitude list? http://packages.ubuntu.com/quantal/gcc-4.7-multilib (first day at kubuntu) | 02:10 |
| OerHeks | eamon, if you are on 12.04, you can't mix precise & quantal | 02:15 |
| eamon | OerHeks: ok i'm gonna inshall quantal - will gcc 4.7+ install then? | 02:16 |
| OerHeks | i am not sure, support for 12.10 Quantal in #ubuntu+1 ( but your package-url says yes) | 02:17 |
| eamon | ty for helping me | 02:18 |
| OerHeks | have fun :-) | 02:19 |
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| c_smith | Hi, I'm trying to connect to a UPnP Media server with Kubuntu 12.04.1 with Amarok (or another media player that will work) and am having no luck, is there something I'm missing? | 02:58 |
| c_smith | it's a media server on XBMCBuntu | 02:59 |
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| mydoghasworms | Hello, I am a Kubuntu newbie. I have just installed 12.04.1 and the performance of the UI is terrible, even when disabling the desktop effects. I have a decent machine (i5, 8GB memory), so what else could be wrong? | 05:08 |
| jdrs | mydoghasworms: check if you're using OpenGL -> system settings > desktop effects > advanced tab : composition type | 05:14 |
| mydoghasworms | jdrs: Yes, I am. I read in a thread of someone using xrender (correct?) but that it is not great for nvidia cards, so I haven't tried it. I think OpenGL is anyway the default setting, right? | 05:18 |
| hyper_ch | Hi there, often shutdown doesn't work and I'm not sure what's the cause. I think samba mounts prevent from properly shutting down the notebook until I unplug the network cable. | 05:18 |
| hyper_ch | any ideas how to pinpoint that issue? | 05:18 |
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| duxxx | does muon discovery need gnome keying? it aslo installed gnome keying while installing a prgram that didn't need it in 12.04 and 12.10 http://s17.postimage.org/tawgy5et9/muonbug.png | 05:36 |
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| hyper_ch | Hi there, often shutdown doesn't work and I'm not sure what's the cause. I think samba mounts prevent from properly shutting down the notebook until I unplug the network cable. - any ideas how to pinpoint that issue? | 08:47 |
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| n8w | hey guys, do u know how to import a custom syntax highligh schema into kate? this one in particular: http://osdir.com/ml/kde.devel.kwrite/2004-04/msg00271.html | 09:23 |
| tsimpson | n8w: try placing it in ~/.kde/share/apps/katepart/syntax/ (you may need to create the last two directories) | 09:28 |
| n8w | tsimpson: cool, gonna check it out, thx | 09:29 |
| mr0wl | how stable is Kubuntu 12.10 Beta 1 right now? | 10:02 |
| mr0wl | would you guys recommend an upgrade for day to day use on a personal machine? | 10:02 |
| hyper_ch | mr0wl: is it a machine for work? | 10:03 |
| mr0wl | hyper_ch: not really | 10:03 |
| hyper_ch | anything essential you do on there? | 10:03 |
| mr0wl | hyper_ch: just my main desktop, but i'm not shy on it breaking on me | 10:04 |
| hyper_ch | then go for it:) | 10:04 |
| mr0wl | hyper_ch: fresh install or upgrade? | 10:04 |
| hyper_ch | I prefer to do fresh installs when I have the time | 10:05 |
| hyper_ch | so I can kick everything out I installed for testing | 10:05 |
| hyper_ch | right now, I upgraded form 11.10 to 12.04 | 10:05 |
| mr0wl | i guess i'll go with a simple upgrade then | 10:07 |
| hyper_ch | :) | 10:07 |
| tsimpson | mr0wl: or, you could test the upgrade, provide some feedback, then do a fresh install, and provide more feedback :) | 10:11 |
| mr0wl | tsimpson: lol, i'll do what i can | 10:15 |
| hyper_ch | Hi there, often shutdown doesn't work and I'm not sure what's the cause. I think samba mounts prevent from properly shutting down the notebook until I unplug the network cable. - any ideas how to pinpoint that issue? | 10:15 |
| n8w | tsimpson: great man, it works...cheers | 10:56 |
| BluesKaj_ | Hi all | 11:15 |
| hyper_ch | hi BluesKaj_ | 11:21 |
| BluesKaj_ | hi hyper_ch | 11:22 |
| hyper_ch | BluesKaj_: you're really smart regarding Kubunut IIRC, right? | 11:22 |
| BluesKaj_ | I have some experience , yes | 11:23 |
| hyper_ch | well, on my notebook, I attach at work and at home external monitors, keyboard mous and mount some network drives. When I want to power it off, it doesn't shut down properly but hangs itself until I unplug all the things. Any idea why or how I can pinpoint the issue? | 11:24 |
| BluesKaj_ | well, until you figure out the problem , you shutdown cleanly from the terminal with sudo halt , but check in system settings >power management | 11:27 |
| hyper_ch | will do so :) | 11:27 |
| hyper_ch | see, I knew you're smart ;) | 11:27 |
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| starlook | Hi, here in brazil 08:53AM | 11:53 |
| starlook | running a vmplayer 5.0 over a kubuntu 12.10 alpha 3, kernel 3.5.0 | 11:53 |
| starlook | (vmware-modconfig:8025): Gtk-WARNING **: Unable to locate theme engine in module_path: "oxygen-gtk", | 11:53 |
| starlook | vmplayer install and open OK, but when a try to open a vmmachine crash and close | 11:54 |
| desonic | Hi everyone. I have this missbehavior from QApt Installer: I'm using kubuntu 12.04 and qapt-deb-installer doesn't work. | 11:55 |
| desonic | Step to reproduce: | 11:55 |
| desonic | 1) Open a .deb package | 11:55 |
| desonic | 2) Click install | 11:55 |
| desonic | Expected behaviour: | 11:55 |
| FloodBotK1 | desonic: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 11:55 |
| desonic | The deb package will be installed | 11:55 |
| Riddell | desonic: do report a bug to bugs.kde.org, the maintainer is pretty responsive | 11:56 |
| Phiscribe | i need to file one, the desktop cd iso is to large to burn. been that way for awhile. crazy | 11:57 |
| Phiscribe | ack nm, thats kde. | 11:58 |
| Riddell | Phiscribe: it's not intended to fit on a CD any more, DVD and USB disk only | 11:58 |
| Phiscribe | then why do they have seperate dvd and cd images | 11:58 |
| Riddell | we don't, in 12.10 | 11:59 |
| Phiscribe | im talking 12.04 | 11:59 |
| Riddell | 12.04 should fit on a CD | 11:59 |
| Phiscribe | it doesnt | 11:59 |
| Phiscribe | its beyound the hard physical limit for a cd | 11:59 |
| Phiscribe | hasnt for months | 12:00 |
| Riddell | hmm, http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/precise/release/ 703M that is on the edge I agree | 12:00 |
| Phiscribe | no its beyond the edge | 12:00 |
| Riddell | ubuntu team did lots of testing so it's probably within the limits of whatever they tested on | 12:01 |
| peti | hello | 12:02 |
| Riddell | hi peti | 12:02 |
| Phiscribe | ubuntu is fine, but not kubuntu. i spend two days on it. its too large | 12:02 |
| peti | hy riddell | 12:02 |
| Riddell | Phiscribe: do report a bug on kubuntu-meta if you like, we can look at it for the 12.04.2 builds | 12:04 |
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| pinnen | KDE <3 | 12:50 |
| alx_ | Hi guys. I haven't have a smartphone from samsung yet. My wife will soon have one. Could anyone give me advice, how to handle kies, upgrades ... on linux(kubuntu)? If possible. | 12:50 |
| SIR_Taco | alx_: Kies is only available for Windows | 12:59 |
| alx_ | SIR_Taco: oh, android~linux, I was misleaded to suppose, that there would be a chance to do upgrades outgoing from my linux | 13:02 |
| SIR_Taco | alx_: there are programs to update firmware via Linux, but it's unsupported by Samsung, and could possibly void the warranty with Samsung and/or your service provider | 13:03 |
| alx_ | ok, thank you very much | 13:03 |
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| marting_ | Hi, what is the best IRC client for KDE? | 13:49 |
| RamchandraApte_ | im using quassel | 13:51 |
| RamchandraApte_ | the default | 13:51 |
| soee | i prefer xchat | 13:51 |
| marting_ | Thanks, will try both | 13:52 |
| BluesKaj | konversation ftw! | 13:52 |
| systemclient | Earlier my window decorations disappeared, then I started Kwin again with --crashed 2 and it came back, but no compositing. Now after reboot there are no effects and I cannot enable them. How can I fix this? | 13:53 |
| RamchandraApte_ | elobrate on "cannot enable them" | 13:54 |
| systemclient | RamchandraApte_: I tried to enable them in systemsettings, and it notified me that some effects could not be enabled, listing all there are. | 13:55 |
| systemclient | I just did another `kwin --replace` and it now works . | 13:55 |
| systemclient | does the `--crashed n` option suspend all effects? | 13:55 |
| RamchandraApte_ | systemclient:if it is 2 or more it suspends i think | 13:56 |
| systemclient | RamchandraApte_: makes sense … | 13:56 |
| lordievader | Good afternoon | 14:09 |
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| jente | hi, i am managed to install kubuntu 12.04 on an hp dc5700 but have trouble using it. after installation the machine reboots, loads into the desktop but seems unresponsive: i click the 'K' for instance and 10s later the menu pops up. unfortunately, i can not start any programs. | 15:51 |
| jente | what might be the cause of that? the machine is an iCore2 CPU 6300@186GHz, 3Gb Ram, graphics should be a quadro nvs 285 | 15:55 |
| jente | nvidia that is | 15:55 |
| dav_ | hi, I need a little help with JPNL files | 15:58 |
| BluesKaj | jente, open a terminal and do, sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get upgrade | 16:00 |
| jente | BluesKaj: I tried opening a terminal via alt+f2 but even the display of the input field takes a long time. i can enter xterm for example (don't know if it is included) but it never executes | 16:02 |
| jente | during the install process, i marked the box that said "include updates" or something like that and it did download a lot from the net | 16:03 |
| BluesKaj | ok , jente , you probly need to drop to a tty , since X isn't running properly , then sudo apt-get install nvidia-current , reboot | 16:04 |
| BluesKaj | ctrl+alt+F1 or F2 to get a TTY | 16:05 |
| angelforget | Kubuntu 12.04.1 is very Super | 16:08 |
| jente | BluesKaj: okay, i can get on a tty. I will give your suggestion a try, thanks! | 16:13 |
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| hyper_ch | hi BluesKaj | 16:30 |
| dav_ | hi, Icedtea not opens desktop java applications. Some help? | 16:31 |
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| jente | BluesKaj: I did as you said and the system seemes to be a little bit more responsive, but not like I would expect it to be. at least now I got the notification of >100 updates waiting. I hope it does install those, can't tell if the system is working | 16:51 |
| jente | is there a performance issue with 32bit kubuntu on a 64bit-able machine? | 16:56 |
| hyper_ch | no | 16:57 |
| hyper_ch | but why would you use 32bit on 64bit anyway | 16:57 |
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| jente | well, 64bit sounds tempting, but I have no idea about software support for 64bit. is mplayer still 32bit only? what about other software still in 32bit? I just read a little bit yet about 32bit being run on 64bit, but that machine is for someone just _using_ a pc so having the need to fiddle with it in case a new program comes along is not what I need right now | 17:01 |
| hyper_ch | just run 64bit | 17:01 |
| hyper_ch | there's even w64codecs :) | 17:02 |
| hyper_ch | and ubuntu is now multi-arch anway | 17:02 |
| hyper_ch | meaning you could add 32arch somehow | 17:02 |
| BluesKaj | jente open system settings and disable desktop search/nepomuk , if that doesn't help try the system monitor or htop to see if any process is eating resources | 17:02 |
| hyper_ch | jente: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiArch | 17:03 |
| jente | BluesKaj: unfortunately, I can not even get to system settings! the whole systems seems frozen, although it does respond sometimes. I would check that right away. I could run top on a tty, but that is just about it. nothing hogging up the machine | 17:04 |
| jente | hyper_ch: thanks, I will look into that! | 17:04 |
| hyper_ch | just go with 64 bit :) | 17:04 |
| BluesKaj | jente, how much RAM ? | 17:04 |
| jente | 3GB | 17:05 |
| jente | a quick mem-check gave me no errors | 17:05 |
| BluesKaj | hyper_ch doubt that switching to 64 bt will much difference | 17:05 |
| hyper_ch | BluesKaj: well, no idea what causes his problems :) | 17:05 |
| hyper_ch | but if he ahs 64bit architecture he should make use of it | 17:05 |
| hyper_ch | it's like having a ferrari and being limited to 120km/h on the autobahn ;) | 17:06 |
| BluesKaj | hyper_ch, not at all | 17:06 |
| jente | that ferrari is driven by an older lady ... | 17:06 |
| jente | not to start a discussion about 32 vs. 64 bit, but if it was my machine, I would go with 64. but so far there is no telling what programs will be installed that are 32bit only. I want to give 32bit a try first. | 17:08 |
| BluesKaj | jente, drop to the tty and do sudo apt-get update:sudo apt-get upgrade ..you may need updates/upgrades to finish configuring your system | 17:09 |
| jente | BluesKaj: okay, will do. does 12.04 need a lot of configuring/cleaning up after the install-reboot? | 17:09 |
| dux | does muon discovery need gnome keying? it aslo installed gnome keying while installing a prgram that didn't need it in 12.04 and 12.10 | 17:10 |
| jente | the machine seems idle with some sporadic activity blinking from the tower | 17:10 |
| BluesKaj | jente, the cofiguring will be done by the upgrade dpkg system. i think you'll sees a difference once the upgrade is done | 17:11 |
| jente | will report back | 17:11 |
| BluesKaj | ok | 17:11 |
| BluesKaj | dux, do you have gnome desktop as option on your system ? | 17:14 |
| dux | kde | 17:14 |
| dux | no | 17:14 |
| dux | its a freash install of kubuntu | 17:14 |
| BluesKaj | did you switch frome unity/gnome to kde | 17:14 |
| BluesKaj | muon doesn't need gnome keyring afaik ,.. never used it on kubuntu , dux | 17:16 |
| dux | then why is it installing it..... | 17:16 |
| dux | must be some kind of bug | 17:16 |
| BluesKaj | but I don't use muon much , merely to lookup packages .. | 17:16 |
| BluesKaj | I usually remove muon in favour of synaptic , which i still think is far superior despite a few gtk libs on my setup | 17:18 |
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| jente | BluesKaj: okay, update/upgrade done, reboot, system is still frozen/sluggish. | 17:42 |
| jente | after the upgrade however there were two errors, one I could catch was knetattach with /usr/bin/nepumukservicesstub | 17:43 |
| jente | I don't know about the other. if there are two windows open, I can easily and without delay switch between them using alt+tab. but moving one around does not work, it's like the mouse is dead. | 17:45 |
| BluesKaj | jente, did you install to separate / and /home partitions ? | 17:50 |
| hyper_ch | jente: can you pastebin your hardware specs? | 17:51 |
| hyper_ch | open terminal | 17:51 |
| hyper_ch | lshw > ~/hardware.txt | 17:52 |
| hyper_ch | sudo apt-get install pastebinit | 17:52 |
| hyper_ch | pastebinit ~/hardware.txt | 17:52 |
| BluesKaj | I ran into sluggish response with a / partion that was too small , under 6G , solved it by making / 10G | 17:54 |
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| jente | BluesKaj: I took the default install partitioning. seems like it did one single partition (76gb) for all and one 3gb swap | 18:02 |
| jente | hyper_ch: just a second | 18:02 |
| jente | http://paste.ubuntu.com/1200993/ | 18:03 |
| jente | pastebinit is cool, didn't know about that! | 18:04 |
| hyper_ch | should be fine | 18:07 |
| hyper_ch | intel core 2 | 18:08 |
| hyper_ch | nvidia card | 18:08 |
| jente | just ran an ssh -X session and there is no trouble with performance whatsoever | 18:08 |
| hyper_ch | 3gb ram | 18:08 |
| hyper_ch | try to deactivate the kde desktop effects, maybe that helps | 18:08 |
| jente | it's a used machine, but it ran a knoppix cd in the store without trouble | 18:08 |
| jente | how do I do that? | 18:08 |
| jente | or: how do I do that on the command line? | 18:09 |
| hyper_ch | K -> Computer -> System SEttings -> Desktop Effects -> unckeck "Enable Desktop effect at startup" | 18:09 |
| hyper_ch | kcmshell something :) | 18:09 |
| jente | no go, I can click on K, but that's about it. | 18:09 |
| jente | the menu opens a minute later and clicking anything after that gives no response | 18:10 |
| jente | the graphical system is not usable | 18:10 |
| jente | ah, wait, through ssh? that might work | 18:11 |
| SIR_Taco | hyper_ch: kcmshell4 kwincompositing | 18:11 |
| hyper_ch | kwriteconfig --file kwinrc --group Compositing --key Enabled false | 18:11 |
| hyper_ch | and restart kwin with kwin --replace | 18:12 |
| SIR_Taco | hyper_ch: or just hit ALT-SHIFT-F12 | 18:12 |
| hyper_ch | jente: http://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=19956#p82919 | 18:12 |
| hyper_ch | SIR_Taco: well, desktop is unusable for jente | 18:13 |
| jente | kcmshell4 kwincompositing works though an 'ssh -X' session! | 18:14 |
| hyper_ch | weird | 18:14 |
| keln | Hello, will this CPU be fast enough to run Kubuntu? > http://amzn.to/NZMA4x | 18:15 |
| hyper_ch | keln: barely | 18:16 |
| hyper_ch | keln: you'd need at least 64gb ram in addition | 18:16 |
| hyper_ch | keln: I do assume you were joking, right? | 18:17 |
| keln | 64GB RAM? I only have 32GB | 18:17 |
| hyper_ch | but 8 core cpu for that price is nice | 18:17 |
| keln | no I'm not joking | 18:17 |
| hyper_ch | you can run kubuntu on a single core, 1.6ghz cpu | 18:18 |
| hyper_ch | atom | 18:18 |
| jente | even lower than that. don't know about the current 12.04, though | 18:19 |
| hyper_ch | and 1gb ram | 18:19 |
| hyper_ch | if you have a decent video card it's not even bad running | 18:19 |
| hyper_ch | while decent means 3-4 years old | 18:20 |
| keln | Btw, I'm giving out AMD FX 8 core CPUs for free for 5 people, I got them free through buisness and they aren't needed and what's the point of selling them? Drop me a PM if you're interested. | 18:21 |
| jente | effects disabled it's even running on a P3 with a rage 128 pro ultra tf | 18:21 |
| hyper_ch | jente: did disabling the effects help you out? | 18:21 |
| jente | checking now | 18:22 |
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| anon1 | Hello | 18:37 |
| anon1 | I've got a bit of a problem. | 18:38 |
| anon1 | I'm running Kubuntu 12.04 64-bit on my laptop, | 18:39 |
| kylie | HELP | 18:39 |
| anon1 | connecting through HDMI to the TV. Video card is ATI HD 3400 series. | 18:39 |
| anon1 | Every 30 seconds of inactivity results in a screen (and audio) timeout. | 18:39 |
| kylie | Help! | 18:39 |
| kylie | Sorry | 18:39 |
| anon1 | Screensaver is disabled. | 18:39 |
| anon1 | lol hi kylie | 18:40 |
| kylie | I think Kubuntu decided to attempt suicide | 18:40 |
| anon1 | did it tie a rope around its neck? | 18:40 |
| kylie | Not literally? | 18:40 |
| kylie | Wireless connection started freaking out, programs started freaking out and I had to restart | 18:40 |
| kylie | and now my screen's resolution is | 18:40 |
| kylie | settings is at | 18:41 |
| kylie | low | 18:41 |
| kylie | when it should be | 18:41 |
| kylie | high-er. :x | 18:41 |
| kylie | After updates | 18:41 |
| FloodBotK1 | kylie: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 18:41 |
| BluesKaj | !enter | 18:41 |
| ubottu | Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation! | 18:41 |
| SIR_Taco | anon1: have you checked your power settings? it may be turning off your screen after a certain duration | 18:41 |
| kylie_ | Sorry | 18:41 |
| anon1 | SIR_Taco: I checked them, and deliberately disabled all options | 18:41 |
| anon1 | any logs I can check to see what's triggering the HDMI timeout? | 18:43 |
| SIR_Taco | anon1: I would assume it's the DPMS turning off video for the laptop from inactivity... what does 'xset -q' in konsole give you for Standby, Suspend, and Off? | 18:46 |
| anon1 | 32 / 48 / 64 | 18:47 |
| anon1 | respectively. | 18:47 |
| jente | hyper_ch, BluesKaj: disabling the effects at startup helped! | 18:48 |
| jente | system is running smooth now, thanks to your help! | 18:48 |
| hyper_ch | jente: now go 64bit ;) | 18:48 |
| BluesKaj | jente, do you have a working mouse | 18:48 |
| BluesKaj | ? | 18:48 |
| jente | yes, mouse works | 18:48 |
| jente | just now I opened up some programs, installed firefox, tested a youtube video, all work fine | 18:49 |
| jente | just kmail is giving me some errors about akonadi | 18:49 |
| hyper_ch | akonadi is PITA IMHO | 18:49 |
| BluesKaj | hyper_ch, , it's not going to make much difference , 32 or 64 bit only if he has over 4G RAM , then it might be noticeable , and I mean maybe | 18:49 |
| SIR_Taco | anon1: in konsole type 'xset -dpms' and try it... see if it still shuts off after 30 seconds of inactivity (then we'll know if it's the power management or possibly something else | 18:50 |
| anon1 | SIR_Taco: ok, brb in 31 seconds :) | 18:50 |
| jente | I will have to see what happens when I enter some accounts. akonadi is really not my type. since its introduction there were nothing but problems. | 18:50 |
| BluesKaj | jente, if you don't need kmail and all it's problems the stop akonadi and disable the server | 18:51 |
| cynical | I'm typing this from a freshly installed 12.04.1 and akonadi isn't giving me any issues so far | 18:51 |
| SIR_Taco | cynical: yea... but you're just being cynical ; ) | 18:52 |
| jente | I want to do that if I can not get it to work. I tried converting the user to thunderbird some weeks ago but kmail has some nice features that the user is missing | 18:52 |
| cynical | :O | 18:52 |
| SIR_Taco | cynical: I haven't had any problems with akonadi since probably 4.0.x | 18:52 |
| jente | cynical: this is a fresh 12.04 install with updates/upgrades and the first starup of kmail sends out errors | 18:52 |
| cynical | I love the kde integration, using something other than kmail would make me sad | 18:52 |
| cynical | taco: yeah I used to disable it all the time but it's been great lately | 18:53 |
| BluesKaj | jente, well good luck with kmail , I used to like it til it got budened with akonadi and nepomuk | 18:53 |
| cynical | jente: what errors? | 18:53 |
| hyper_ch | and kmail has no virtual identity plugin | 18:53 |
| anon1 | SIR_Taco: thanks! Looks like it worked :) I only recently formatted (previously also had 12.04) and didn't install any exotic drivers (only the ATI drivers). Any idea what it happened on its own? | 18:53 |
| jente | akonadi_maildir_resource_0 not working, resource now offline | 18:53 |
| jente | it might change when setting up an account, but there are other errors that might persist. will see tomorrow | 18:54 |
| cynical | jente: oh I had some kind of notification like that the first time kmail launched but I don't get them anymore | 18:54 |
| SIR_Taco | anon1: not sure... but remember to re-enable dpms ('set +dpms') or your laptop wont sleep on battery | 18:54 |
| SIR_Taco | *'xset +dpms' | 18:54 |
| anon1 | SIR_Taco: will do. Thanks again, and good night! | 18:54 |
| anon1 | ah understood | 18:55 |
| BluesKaj | Kmail users read this before upgrading: http://bit.ly/o841iy | 12.04 LTS | 18:55 |
| jente | cynical: I see, then setting up an account will take care of that. I will be very happy if that are the only issues with kmail! | 18:55 |
| BluesKaj | that's from the topic header | 18:55 |
| jente | BluesKaj: thanks for the link, but that is what I did when upgrading from 10.x to 11.10. the user does not even know how to use an addressbook anymore, since it refused to work even on a fresh install in 11.10 | 18:57 |
| jente | tried converting the old data, set up a new system and imported some old data, set up a new system and used new data: all resulted in an unusable addressbook. | 18:59 |
| jente | anyway, I love to give kmail and co. another try | 19:00 |
| avihay | I ran dist-do-upgrade... will it ask me after finishing the download if I want to proceed to the install phase? | 19:02 |
| SIR_Taco | avihay: you mean 'do-release-upgrade'? | 19:02 |
| lordievader | avihay: No, it will ask you before downloading if you want to continue, if you say yes it will download and install. | 19:03 |
| BluesKaj | jente, so would I , but I'm reluctant to go thru all thet frustration again , it works for a week or so and once the segfaults begin , it just get worse and worse | 19:03 |
| avihay | and if not, and I hit ctrl-c, will it gracefully revert my repository list? | 19:03 |
| avihay | SIR_Taco: yes | 19:03 |
| SIR_Taco | avihay: it will check the new repositories, show you a list of what is to be upgraded/installed/removed, then ask you if you'd like to continue | 19:04 |
| jente | BluesKaj: if that happens, I will definitely convert | 19:04 |
| SIR_Taco | avihay: if you say 'N', it will not change your current repository list | 19:05 |
| BluesKaj | t-bird works for me , but I'm a home user with very light email needs , jente | 19:05 |
| avihay | I already told it yes, after it showed me the list of changes. if I hit ctrl-c, will it gracefully revert my repository list? | 19:05 |
| SIR_Taco | avihay: was it in the download process? or was it installing? | 19:06 |
| avihay | I want to make the changes while I sleep, so that I can wake up to a fresh set of problems to solve after I wake up, and worry bout how to solve it all day while I'm at work | 19:06 |
| avihay | SIR_Taco: I'm still in the download process | 19:07 |
| avihay | for the next two hours... | 19:07 |
| SIR_Taco | avihay: ok, so you just want to start the process again later? | 19:07 |
| avihay | yhe | 19:07 |
| avihay | the gui had a nice cancel button | 19:08 |
| jente | BluesKaj: personally, I love mutt, but since it's not my machine i am setting up, I have to stick with what the user can deal with. It would certainly be easier if one could disable nepomuk and akonadi | 19:08 |
| SIR_Taco | avihay: ya, then go ahead and CTRL-C the process... | 19:08 |
| SIR_Taco | avihay: when you start it again later... it will do it's dependency calculations again, but will continue downloading packages where it left off | 19:09 |
| BluesKaj | jente, what kind of email requirements will the user have ...thunderbird is also capable fairly high data storage if configured to do so , at least that's what I've been told. | 19:10 |
| hyper_ch | too bad TB doesn't use maildir :( | 19:11 |
| SIR_Taco | hyper_ch: last I heard, that was in the works | 19:12 |
| hyper_ch | https://jaisejames.wordpress.com/2012/03/15/to-activate-maildir-in-thunderbird/ | 19:12 |
| hyper_ch | just found that | 19:12 |
| hyper_ch | I've heard the "in the works" thing for years | 19:13 |
| BluesKaj | T-bird can be linked to mysql database if needed | 19:14 |
| jente | there are a few email accounts the user wants to have in one level, that means not seperate inboxes/trash etc. I tried setting up some filters and moving mails around as soon as they get in, but it's not flawless and timeconsuming | 19:15 |
| hyper_ch | I have to test that maildir support and I wonder if that also works on windows | 19:16 |
| eamon | How do I (permanently) set the keyboard to a different layout on the login screen? | 19:27 |
| hyper_ch | eamon: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales | 19:33 |
| hyper_ch | or rather: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data | 19:33 |
| hyper_ch | or sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration | 19:34 |
| eamon | super, the last one worked | 19:37 |
| tobiasBora | Hello ! | 19:41 |
| tobiasBora | I'd like to know how I could open a bluetooth device (my mobile phone) like a usb key (to see the files) | 19:42 |
| tobiasBora | What paquage do I need ? | 19:42 |
| SIR_Taco | tobiasBora: which phone? | 19:44 |
| tobiasBora | SIR_Taco: I own a Samsung galaxy ace, under android. | 19:45 |
| tobiasBora | SIR_Taco: do you know if it is possible ? | 19:48 |
| SIR_Taco | tobiasBora: you should be able to use FTP over bluetooth... will require a program from the google store I believe | 19:49 |
| SIR_Taco | tobiasBora: for instance https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=it.medieval.blueftp | 19:50 |
| tobiasBora | I'm trying... | 19:50 |
| SIR_Taco | tobiasBora: have you checked through the "Bluetooth" section in System Settings? (I don't have bluetooth on any of my computers, so I haven't tried it. But possibly Android already has a file transfer mechanism built in?) | 19:54 |
| tobiasBora | SIR_Taco: it doesn't seem to works... And in system, I only see "share" and "receveie" files | 19:56 |
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| SIR_Taco | tobiasBora: It wont work like a usb drive, you can only send files to the computer and copy files from the computer. To be usb-drive-like you'll need a program to act as a bluetooth ftp server on the phone (from the Google Store) | 19:59 |
| tobiasBora | SIR_Taco: And I can't only see the file before download them ? Because it's really long to do it manually from the phone. | 20:00 |
| SIR_Taco | tobiasBora: it will act like FTP, you'll have a list of files and directories, be able to send and receive | 20:02 |
| cynical | If you just want to transfer files wirelessly you can use airdroid to do it over wifi | 20:06 |
| MasterOfDesaster | youre such noobs, i am the biggest hacker and you have no chances against me | 20:06 |
| MasterOfDesaster | you all suck really | 20:06 |
| MasterOfDesaster | i am a HACKER | 20:06 |
| MasterOfDesaster | you UNDERSTAND? | 20:06 |
| FloodBotK1 | MasterOfDesaster: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation. | 20:07 |
| SIR_Taco | thumbs up big guy | 20:07 |
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| cynical | I'm skurred | 20:07 |
| MasterOfDesaster | you better be | 20:07 |
| MasterOfDesaster | because i am a kubuntu GEEK | 20:08 |
| * cynical shudders | 20:08 | |
| MasterOfDesaster | nobody has a chance against such a HACKER like me | 20:08 |
| MasterOfDesaster | really | 20:08 |
| MasterOfDesaster | wanna proof? | 20:08 |
| MasterOfDesaster | i already hacked yall, and you did not even notice!!! | 20:08 |
| cynical | ahh hes hacking my mind! | 20:08 |
| MasterOfDesaster | i tell you what! my ssh account is lucas/lucas but you cant do shit with is cause i am a ruling hacker | 20:10 |
| MasterOfDesaster | with massive iptables knowledge | 20:10 |
| MasterOfDesaster | even i tell you my ssh detailed you cant do shit againt me, hahaha! That shows me youre a noob an i am a IPTABLES GOD | 20:10 |
| hyper_ch | BluesKaj: changed now one imap account in TB to maildir :) | 20:10 |
| IdleOne | MasterOfDesaster: No swearing or trolling. Thanks. | 20:12 |
| tobiasBora | SIR_Taco: It works ! | 20:15 |
| tobiasBora | I don't know why (I installed severals paquages, I installed astro bluetooth device on my mobile phone, I unplug/plug my device etc and now it works ! | 20:16 |
| tobiasBora | Thanks a lot ! | 20:16 |
| SIR_Taco | tobiasBora: good to hear, you're welcome | 20:19 |
| BluesKaj | that masterofdisaster guy is such a smart network user he couldn't even hide his IP :) | 20:23 |
| SIR_Taco | BluesKaj: but... but... but... he knows the /join command.... : P | 20:23 |
| BluesKaj | he was here earlier using a different nick I'm sure | 20:24 |
| BluesKaj | berlin | 20:24 |
| SIR_Taco | BluesKaj: yep | 20:24 |
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| avihay | any way to make Quassel more up to par with Konversation? | 20:40 |
| tsimpson | depends on what you mean | 20:41 |
| avihay | is there a way to have the last message line when switching tabs and applications? | 20:42 |
| tsimpson | doesn't it do that for you already? | 20:43 |
| SIR_Taco | Settings -> Configure Quassel -> Interface -> Chat View -> Set marker line automatically when switching chats (should be default though as far as I know) | 20:46 |
| avihay | tabs->channels | 20:48 |
| avihay | or have the connect button enabled? or have quassel not make all the buffers disappear when I lose connection to the core? | 20:48 |
| avihay | or have the connect button enabled? or have quassel not make all the buffers disappear when I lose connection to the core? just got disconnected, that's really annoying, and I think that 360 sec lag to the core is hint enough that the connection was lost | 20:49 |
| avihay | SIR_Taco: that doesn't work when I alt-tab. I have to manually select a dead channel before I alt-tab to keep track... | 20:51 |
| SIR_Taco | avihay: ah, yes you're right | 20:51 |
| MasterOfDesaster | i am the best hacker, and you are all noobs! I could even tell you that my SSH account is lucas/lucas and you could not do shit because i have a IPTABLES Kowledge! YOU SUCK and i laugh at you *hahaha* | 20:52 |
| IdleOne | MasterOfDesaster: Please stop. | 20:52 |
| BluesKaj | MasterOfDesaster, ok why can't you even hide your own IP ? :) | 20:52 |
| MasterOfDesaster | i do | 20:53 |
| BluesKaj | sure you do | 20:53 |
| SIR_Taco | compensation is always funny | 20:53 |
| MasterOfDesaster | IdleOne: I will stop, its just that i was telling the truth that i am master hacker. but i stop now | 20:53 |
| BluesKaj | some 14 yr old kid on his mummy's computer while she's out buying food for the ..... | 20:54 |
| jEhrichs | ;) | 20:55 |
| IdleOne | tsimpson: that won't help | 20:55 |
| IdleOne | he is a master hacker | 20:55 |
| tsimpson | but you forget, I'm an Über-hacker! | 20:55 |
| avihay | or, if anyone else know of another front-end back-end KDE IRC client, I think I saw one on KDE-Apps, but I fail to find it now. maybe it's time to look at xchat? | 20:55 |
| jEhrichs | maybe he will ddos 127.0.0.1 | 20:55 |
| SIR_Taco | : O | 20:55 |
| BluesKaj | avihay, konversation | 20:56 |
| jEhrichs | chat is nice. used it for a long time | 20:56 |
| IdleOne | tsimpson: I did forget. My apologies oh Uber One | 20:56 |
| SIR_Taco | please no... not 127.0.0.1! anything but that | 20:56 |
| jEhrichs | and for front/backend there are always the "usual irc bouncers tha tshould work | 20:56 |
| tsimpson | avihay: there are other options, like using a bouncer and any other IRC client | 20:56 |
| jEhrichs | but aquasse lis a really nice solution to be honest. | 20:56 |
| jEhrichs | *quassel | 20:57 |
| BluesKaj | konversation works well with znc bouncer | 20:57 |
| jEhrichs | does anyone know if 4.9.1 is coming to 12.04? Seems it reached 12.10 already | 20:57 |
| SIR_Taco | jEhrichs: it's not in backports? | 20:58 |
| avihay | I have a bad connection or a packet blocker at school that prevents me from being connected directly to freenode, so using konversation directly is a problem. I'll guess I'll go search for a bouncer then | 20:58 |
| jEhrichs | is should have this enabled. but let me check | 20:59 |
| tsimpson | we have 4.9.0 in kubuntu-ppa/backports for precise | 20:59 |
| SIR_Taco | jEhrichs: I guess it's not done yet.... just checked | 21:00 |
| jEhrichs | thanks SIR_Taco | 21:00 |
| SIR_Taco | np | 21:00 |
| hyper_ch | also using ZNC with Konvi | 21:03 |
| fdsfds | KDE Network Manager keeps dropping my wifi connection while I am downloading large files. It will not re-connect unless I uncheck "Enable wireless", then re-check it in Network Manager. I see that other people are having the same problem in the forums, but no one can figure out what is going on here. Does anyone have any ideas? | 21:20 |
| SIR_Taco | fdsfds: do you know what your network card is? | 21:25 |
| fdsfds | lspci shows it is a Broadcom BCM4311 802.11a/b/g (rev 01) | 21:26 |
| fdsfds | Also, when the failure occurs, messages log shows this " wlan0: authenticate with f4:ec:38:dd:ad:6c (try 1)" for 3 tries, then times out. | 21:27 |
| SIR_Taco | fdsfds: when's the last time you reset your router/modem? | 21:29 |
| fdsfds | A few weeks ago, I changed the wifi WPA settings from TKIP to AES, and it ran fine for a few weeks. However this problem happens on all different kinds of Modems/routers running WPA auth. | 21:32 |
| fdsfds | I do not think this is a wireless router problem, because other devices/windows have no problems at all. | 21:32 |
| SIR_Taco | fdsfds: I would suggest open Konsole (or any terminal) and type: "sudo apt-get remove bcmwl-kernel-source && sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter firmware-b43-lpphy-installer" | 21:33 |
| fdsfds | Yea, I have done that several times with no luck. I have been researching this for several months and that was a suggestion in one of the forums. | 21:34 |
| SIR_Taco | fdsfds: what about: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer | 21:35 |
| fdsfds | however, I don't think I tried to remove/reinstall the lpphy-installer - let me try that now..... | 21:35 |
| SIR_Taco | the last one I described *should* automate that | 21:35 |
| fdsfds | right now the bcmwl-kernel source is not installed, firmware-b43-installer is installed, but firmware-b43-lpphy-installer is not. I will install the lpphy now... | 21:38 |
| fdsfds | If I install firmware-b43-lpphy-installer, adept wants to remove firmware-b43-installer | 21:39 |
| fdsfds | It seems they are not compatible. | 21:40 |
| SIR_Taco | fdsfds: try installing: sudo apt-get install firmware-b43-installer | 21:41 |
| fdsfds | That works, and is the same one I had installed before. However it does not install the firmware-b43-lpphy-installer. | 21:43 |
| SIR_Taco | ok... what about just the lpphy installer ? | 21:46 |
| SIR_Taco | I know one of them is the correct answer... just can't remember which ; ) | 21:46 |
| fdsfds | I will give that a try. I have not tried the lpphy installer before. What is the difference between the 2? | 21:46 |
| SIR_Taco | fdsfds: not entirely sure. | 21:47 |
| SIR_Taco | different firmwares I would imagine | 21:47 |
| fdsfds | ok, I installed the lpphy and re-boot and see how that goes. | 21:47 |
| SIR_Taco | ok | 21:48 |
| fdsfds | Thanks for the help, this problem has really been a serious problem for me for over a year now. | 21:49 |
| SIR_Taco | well, hopefully it fixes it for you | 21:49 |
| fdsfds | if not, do you know where else I could go for help, or do you have any other ideas? | 21:49 |
| SIR_Taco | fdsfds: not sure where else | 21:51 |
| trash_ | brasil punkx.. | 22:45 |
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