| silverarrow | hi | 07:16 |
|---|---|---|
| silverarrow | hi | 07:33 |
| silverarrow | anyone having trouble with updates? | 07:33 |
| bioterror | nope | 07:35 |
| bioterror | just updated ~10 packages | 07:35 |
| silverarrow | my update manager is out of order | 07:40 |
| silverarrow | I was suggested a sudo .... and it works | 07:40 |
| silverarrow | I do worry about my update manger | 07:42 |
| bioterror | I do not, I use apt-get | 07:42 |
| bioterror | works like a charm | 07:43 |
| silverarrow | it does | 07:43 |
| silverarrow | but why would update manger act up? | 07:43 |
| silverarrow | I got a major update with this one | 07:43 |
| silverarrow | sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade | 07:43 |
| silverarrow | it is still running ... | 07:45 |
| silverarrow | !!?? | 07:45 |
| bioterror | what's running? | 07:45 |
| silverarrow | the updates in terminal | 07:45 |
| bioterror | sorry, I dont see your computer | 07:45 |
| silverarrow | I should be more clear, but I was talking about my updates | 07:46 |
| silverarrow | sorry | 07:46 |
| silverarrow | how do I choose server in update manager settings? | 08:17 |
| silverarrow | hi jonathan | 08:34 |
| === Newk1 is now known as Newk | ||
| sagaci | kanliot, cat /etc/xdg/autostart/update-manager.conf | 14:25 |
| kanliot | sgaci no such file or dir | 14:31 |
| kanliot | sagaci, | 14:31 |
| sagaci | there's your problem | 14:31 |
| sagaci | ah wait | 14:32 |
| sagaci | update-notifier? | 14:32 |
| sagaci | does anything autostart? | 14:32 |
| holstein | i would use tab complete to make sure you are not "fat-fingering" the path, or choosing "no such" file or dir | 14:32 |
| kanliot | update-manager starts from the start menu | 14:32 |
| kanliot | but not from cron | 14:32 |
| kanliot | tab completion won't tell you if a file doesn't exist | 14:33 |
| === jacky is now known as jalcine | ||
| Shwarmin | Hi. I'm have been running Xubuntu on an older laptop for a while. Considering installing Lubuntu. Are there any important differences? Also, is there a way too keep the applications I installed on Xubuntu? | 17:34 |
| holstein | Shwarmin: just install lubuntu-desktop, or LXDE | 17:35 |
| holstein | lubuntu is ubuntu is xubuntu... basically | 17:35 |
| silverarrow | lubuntu has a lighter setup of apps | 17:39 |
| silverarrow | Shwarmin: you should monitor cpu and ram load to compare xubuntu and lubuntu | 17:40 |
| Shwarmin | Alright thx. So is Lubuntu just Xubuntu+LDXE then? | 17:40 |
| holstein | Shwarmin: ubuntu with LXDE | 17:41 |
| holstein | ubuntu ships with unity as the desktop environment | 17:41 |
| silverarrow | different burnder, CD player, browser setup | 17:41 |
| holstein | you can switch that to whatever you like.. XFCE for examle | 17:41 |
| holstein | example* | 17:41 |
| holstein | ubuntu with XFCE is what xubuntu is... with XFCE and other customizations | 17:41 |
| holstein | you can have XFCE and LXDE installed and choose between them at boot, like dual booting in a way | 17:42 |
| kanliot | how much ram does the lappy have | 17:42 |
| kanliot | Lubuntu runs less services | 17:42 |
| kanliot | like no pulseaudio running all the time | 17:42 |
| Shwarmin | just below 1 gig RAM | 17:43 |
| kanliot | 768 | 17:43 |
| kanliot | ? | 17:43 |
| kanliot | or like 999 something | 17:43 |
| kanliot | if you did a fresh install, you might notice a difference | 17:44 |
| silverarrow | you can always try | 17:44 |
| Shwarmin | I don't remember. How can I quicly check? On windows I popped up Ccleaner for this stuff | 17:44 |
| kanliot | but logging into LXDE, you're not going to notice a diiff | 17:44 |
| kanliot | "system profiler and benchmark" | 17:44 |
| kanliot | LXDE has that "freshly installed" snappiness | 17:45 |
| silverarrow | Shwarmin: if you type htop in terminal it will show ram and cpu useage | 17:45 |
| kanliot | he'd have to install htop | 17:45 |
| silverarrow | ok, sudo apt-get intall htop ? | 17:46 |
| kanliot | he has 1GB | 17:46 |
| Shwarmin | yes installing htop | 17:46 |
| kanliot | no need to check | 17:46 |
| silverarrow | I would compare loads between xubuntu and lubuntu | 17:46 |
| silverarrow | however, both should run well | 17:46 |
| kanliot | naa | 17:47 |
| kanliot | should be about the same | 17:47 |
| silverarrow | htop shows ram and cpu at least | 17:47 |
| silverarrow | and is small | 17:48 |
| Shwarmin | it's 968 MB | 17:49 |
| kanliot | cat /proc/meminfo | 17:49 |
| kanliot | is the most exact way | 17:49 |
| holstein | free -m | 17:49 |
| silverarrow | yeah, it always shows a bit less | 17:49 |
| kanliot | if you want exact numbers :) | 17:50 |
| silverarrow | let me try it | 17:50 |
| silverarrow | it shows exactly the same as htop on this ibook | 17:51 |
| Shwarmin | total used free shared buffers cached | 17:51 |
| Shwarmin | Mem: 968 893 75 0 14 311 | 17:51 |
| Shwarmin | -/+ buffers/cache: 567 401 | 17:51 |
| Shwarmin | Swap: 988 226 762 | 17:51 |
| kanliot | i have 4GB of swap | 17:52 |
| kanliot | i like to swap | 17:52 |
| kanliot | 8GB swap on my other lubuntu | 17:52 |
| bioterror | :D | 17:52 |
| bioterror | when I was kid, we swapped c-casettes and disks | 17:53 |
| silverarrow | I hate active swap usage reall, but great for suspend and dormant mode | 17:53 |
| kanliot | mixtapes off fm radio | 17:53 |
| kanliot | mom had an 8 track | 17:53 |
| bioterror | but 8GB of swap is quite a lot | 17:53 |
| silverarrow | lol | 17:53 |
| kanliot | yeah but i am not lyin | 17:54 |
| Shwarmin | impressive :) | 17:54 |
| bioterror | I have 8GB of RAM on my Kubuntu machine and I have hardly reached half of it | 17:54 |
| silverarrow | there is this funny slipon cover for iphone 4s, looks like a cassette | 17:54 |
| kanliot | i never use hibernate, but i could if i ever want 2 | 17:54 |
| kanliot | i used 6.5 GB of ram disk last week | 17:55 |
| kanliot | but otherwise never use ram | 17:55 |
| kanliot | tmpfs | 17:55 |
| silverarrow | weird hangup | 17:58 |
| keln | Hello, I have an 8 core AMD FX CPU (6.0GHz) and 16GB DDR3 RAM and a 6 GB Radeon Graphics card, will it be enough to run Lubuntu? | 18:07 |
| zleap | keln, that sounds more than enough | 18:08 |
| * zleap drools at the thought of that spec :D | 18:08 | |
| kanliot | hmmm 6.0 GHZ | 18:08 |
| kanliot | faster than mine | 18:08 |
| keln | zleap: My whole machine only cost £400 though. :O | 18:09 |
| zleap | however i guess you would need the smp kernel and not sure if the standard default kernel can access16gb ram without something else (can anyone help) | 18:09 |
| zleap | keln, nice | 18:09 |
| kanliot | no way 6 GHZ | 18:09 |
| kanliot | i'm calling shennanigans | 18:09 |
| kanliot | same for the Radeon | 18:10 |
| kanliot | although Ace of Penguins would run pretty nice on 6 GHZ | 18:11 |
| keln | Lol I meant 3.60 GHz | 18:13 |
| keln | http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-FX-8150-Eight-Core-Processor/dp/B005UBNLFK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1347473574&sr=8-3 | 18:13 |
| keln | I have a cheap mainboard though | 18:13 |
| kanliot | 4100 FX? | 18:14 |
| kanliot | never mind | 18:14 |
| kanliot | i cant read :( | 18:14 |
| TheLordOfTime | keln: you should test with the livecd environment, see if it runs | 18:23 |
| TheLordOfTime | keln: lubuntu should run on that, i've run Lubuntu on worse :p | 18:23 |
| keln | Okay I will check just to make sure | 18:24 |
| TheLordOfTime | this's why the live environments exist... | 18:24 |
| TheLordOfTime | so you can do general "testing" to see if stuff runs on your hardware | 18:24 |
| kanliot | i suggest putting the livecd on a usb flash drive | 18:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | note that the live environment is a tad slower than an actually installed version, but it still can be good to see if it'll actually run | 18:25 |
| TheLordOfTime | agreed | 18:25 |
| keln | kannliot: USB? I am rich enough to run the latest technology of DVDs thank you very much. | 18:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | USB live environments are faster :P | 18:28 |
| TheLordOfTime | !liveusb | 18:28 |
| ubottu | For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent | 18:28 |
| keln | Premium quality of core | 18:28 |
| keln | I doubt it | 18:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | tried and tested | 18:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | USB 3.0 | 18:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | USB 2.0 | 18:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | USB 1.1 | 18:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | all of them | 18:29 |
| keln | One of my DVDs will beat a USB anyday | 18:29 |
| TheLordOfTime | do what you will, but if Lubuntu doesn't work on your system, you'll have wasted a DVD :P | 18:29 |
| keln | But I can formot the DVD | 18:30 |
| keln | *format | 18:30 |
| TheLordOfTime | DVD-RW... | 18:30 |
| kanliot | just do whatever is easier | 18:30 |
| TheLordOfTime | ugh | 18:30 |
| TheLordOfTime | i hate rewritable disks | 18:31 |
| TheLordOfTime | they futz up after a while | 18:31 |
| * TheLordOfTime notices his server is showing a load of 14.03 | 18:31 | |
| * TheLordOfTime disappears to address that | 18:31 | |
| kanliot | 14? | 18:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | mhm | 18:32 |
| TheLordOfTime | don't ask' | 18:32 |
| kanliot | you win | 18:32 |
| keln | Why is when I format a DVD, all content on it is erased but much of the space that was used still exists | 18:33 |
| kanliot | donno | 18:34 |
| kanliot | lazy bits | 18:35 |
| Osmodivs | Hello. I use Lubuntu 12.04 32 bits. I can't open ZSNES, I get this error, I do not what does it means, Can anyone help me? | 19:47 |
| Osmodivs | http://pastebin.com/8ZZ5YVt3 | 19:47 |
| miniCruzer | how do I apply the Lxterminal patch for the <CTRL><SHIFT>C issuing a break command | 20:38 |
| wxl | miniCruzer: what version of lubuntu you on> | 21:25 |
| silverarrow | 13.04 | 21:29 |
| wxl | um, silverarrow, i was asking miniCruzer. | 21:30 |
| silverarrow | wxl, i could not resist | 21:47 |
| wxl | well, miniCruzer, if yo ucome back and you're running quantal, you can add the lubuntu-daily ppa from lubuntu-dev on launchpad and just do it that way | 21:48 |
| wxl | if not, yeah, you'll need to patch it | 21:48 |
| wxl | otherwise patch -p0 < file.diff should get you there | 21:49 |
| wxl | and if you're not running quantal but looking for a reason to, there you go. plus you can help with testing XD | 21:53 |
| D7 | some of my apps do not follow the same widget theme I have chosen, what should I do about that? | 22:00 |
| hosoka | hello all | 22:23 |
| hosoka | I have installed lubuntu with alternate cd and everything was installed just fine. | 22:23 |
| hosoka | and then after reboot it tells me that the target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init. | 22:24 |
| hosoka | No init found. Try passing init= bootarg | 22:24 |
| hosoka | and then ends with a new line (initramfs) | 22:24 |
| hosoka | what to do ? | 22:24 |
| silverarrow | ho, you got no answers | 22:42 |
| tony__ | too bad | 22:57 |
| === lubuntu is now known as Guest29298 | ||
| hosoka | hello everyone | 23:43 |
| hosoka | only getting a black screen where I need to fill in my login and password | 23:43 |
| hosoka | how do i get my desktop back | 23:43 |
| wxl | hosoka: does it involve a flame? | 23:44 |
| hosoka | ? | 23:44 |
| wxl | like this: | 23:44 |
| wxl | http://www.bstegmaier.de/wiki/images/Xscreensaver.png | 23:44 |
| hosoka | no not that | 23:45 |
| wxl | did you log in then? | 23:45 |
| hosoka | compleet blackscreen | 23:45 |
| hosoka | it has the following after i logged in | 23:45 |
| hosoka | e.g. | 23:45 |
| wxl | so how do you know you need to fill in login and password? | 23:45 |
| wxl | what versin is this? | 23:46 |
| hosoka | hesdi@hesdi:~$ | 23:46 |
| hosoka | how do I get into a desktop environment back | 23:46 |
| wxl | oh you're at a command prompt | 23:46 |
| wxl | what version are you using? | 23:46 |
| wxl | is this a new install? | 23:46 |
| hosoka | oldi | 23:46 |
| hosoka | 10.10 | 23:46 |
| hosoka | yes a new install | 23:47 |
| wxl | not to question your choice, but is there a reason you chose such an old version? | 23:47 |
| hosoka | getting difficulties to install | 23:47 |
| hosoka | the only backup I had on cd | 23:47 |
| wxl | well then i would suggest getting a new one :) | 23:47 |
| wxl | old versions come with old bugs! | 23:47 |
| hosoka | with usb it does not work well | 23:47 |
| hosoka | i will try my best | 23:48 |
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