[07:16] <silverarrow> hi
[07:33] <silverarrow> hi
[07:33] <silverarrow> anyone having trouble with updates?
[07:35] <bioterror> nope
[07:35] <bioterror> just updated ~10 packages
[07:40] <silverarrow> my update manager is out of order
[07:40] <silverarrow> I was suggested a sudo .... and it works
[07:42] <silverarrow> I do worry about my update manger
[07:42] <bioterror> I do not, I use apt-get
[07:43] <bioterror> works like a charm
[07:43] <silverarrow> it does
[07:43] <silverarrow> but why would update manger act up?
[07:43] <silverarrow> I got a major update with this one
[07:43] <silverarrow> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:45] <silverarrow> it is still running ...
[07:45] <silverarrow> !!??
[07:45] <bioterror> what's running?
[07:45] <silverarrow> the updates in terminal
[07:45] <bioterror> sorry, I dont see your computer
[07:46] <silverarrow> I should be more clear, but I was talking about my updates
[07:46] <silverarrow> sorry
[08:17] <silverarrow> how do I choose server in update manager settings?
[08:34] <silverarrow> hi jonathan
[14:25] <sagaci> kanliot, cat /etc/xdg/autostart/update-manager.conf
[14:31] <kanliot> sgaci no such file or dir
[14:31] <kanliot> sagaci,
[14:31] <sagaci> there's your problem
[14:32] <sagaci> ah wait
[14:32] <sagaci> update-notifier?
[14:32] <sagaci> does anything autostart?
[14:32] <holstein> i would use tab complete to make sure you are not "fat-fingering" the path, or choosing "no such" file or dir
[14:32] <kanliot> update-manager starts from the start menu
[14:32] <kanliot> but not from cron
[14:33] <kanliot> tab completion won't tell you if a file doesn't exist
[17:34] <Shwarmin> Hi. I'm have been running Xubuntu on an older laptop for a while. Considering installing Lubuntu. Are there any important differences? Also, is there a way too keep the applications I installed on Xubuntu?
[17:35] <holstein> Shwarmin: just install lubuntu-desktop, or LXDE
[17:35] <holstein> lubuntu is ubuntu is xubuntu... basically
[17:39] <silverarrow> lubuntu has a lighter setup of apps
[17:40] <silverarrow> Shwarmin: you should monitor cpu and ram load to compare xubuntu and lubuntu
[17:40] <Shwarmin> Alright thx. So is Lubuntu just Xubuntu+LDXE then?
[17:41] <holstein> Shwarmin: ubuntu with LXDE
[17:41] <holstein> ubuntu ships with unity as the desktop environment
[17:41] <silverarrow> different burnder, CD player, browser setup
[17:41] <holstein> you can switch that to whatever you like.. XFCE for examle
[17:41] <holstein> example*
[17:41] <holstein> ubuntu with XFCE is what xubuntu is... with XFCE and other customizations
[17:42] <holstein> you can have XFCE and LXDE installed and choose between them at boot, like dual booting in a way
[17:42] <kanliot> how much ram does the lappy have
[17:42] <kanliot> Lubuntu runs less services
[17:42] <kanliot> like no pulseaudio running all the time
[17:43] <Shwarmin> just below 1 gig RAM
[17:43] <kanliot> 768
[17:43] <kanliot> ?
[17:43] <kanliot> or like 999 something
[17:44] <kanliot> if you did a fresh install, you might notice a difference
[17:44] <silverarrow> you can always try
[17:44] <Shwarmin> I don't remember. How can I quicly check? On windows I popped up Ccleaner for this stuff
[17:44] <kanliot> but logging into LXDE, you're not going to notice a diiff
[17:44] <kanliot> "system profiler and benchmark"
[17:45] <kanliot> LXDE has that "freshly installed" snappiness
[17:45] <silverarrow> Shwarmin: if you type htop in terminal it will show ram and cpu useage
[17:45] <kanliot> he'd have to install htop
[17:46] <silverarrow> ok, sudo apt-get intall htop  ?
[17:46] <kanliot> he has 1GB
[17:46] <Shwarmin> yes installing htop
[17:46] <kanliot> no need to check
[17:46] <silverarrow> I would compare loads between xubuntu and lubuntu
[17:46] <silverarrow> however, both should run well
[17:47] <kanliot> naa
[17:47] <kanliot> should be about the same
[17:47] <silverarrow> htop shows ram and cpu at least
[17:48] <silverarrow> and is small
[17:49] <Shwarmin> it's 968 MB
[17:49] <kanliot>  cat /proc/meminfo
[17:49] <kanliot> is the most exact way
[17:49] <holstein> free -m
[17:49] <silverarrow> yeah, it always shows a bit less
[17:50] <kanliot> if you want exact numbers :)
[17:50] <silverarrow> let me try it
[17:51] <silverarrow> it shows exactly the same as htop on this ibook
[17:51] <Shwarmin>             total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[17:51] <Shwarmin> Mem:           968        893         75          0         14        311
[17:51] <Shwarmin> -/+ buffers/cache:        567        401
[17:51] <Shwarmin> Swap:          988        226        762
[17:52] <kanliot> i have 4GB of swap
[17:52] <kanliot> i like to swap
[17:52] <kanliot> 8GB swap on my other lubuntu
[17:52] <bioterror> :D
[17:53] <bioterror> when I was kid, we swapped c-casettes and disks
[17:53] <silverarrow> I hate active swap usage reall, but great for suspend and dormant mode
[17:53] <kanliot> mixtapes off fm radio
[17:53] <kanliot> mom had an 8 track
[17:53] <bioterror> but 8GB of swap is quite a lot
[17:53] <silverarrow> lol
[17:54] <kanliot> yeah but i am not lyin
[17:54] <Shwarmin> impressive :)
[17:54] <bioterror> I have 8GB of RAM on my Kubuntu machine and I have hardly reached half of it
[17:54] <silverarrow> there is this funny slipon cover for iphone 4s, looks like a cassette
[17:54] <kanliot> i never use hibernate, but i could if i ever want 2
[17:55] <kanliot> i used 6.5 GB of ram disk last week
[17:55] <kanliot> but otherwise never use ram
[17:55] <kanliot> tmpfs
[17:58] <silverarrow> weird hangup
[18:07] <keln> Hello, I have an 8 core AMD FX CPU (6.0GHz) and 16GB DDR3 RAM and a 6 GB Radeon Graphics card, will it be enough to run Lubuntu?
[18:08] <zleap> keln, that sounds more than enough
[18:08]  * zleap drools at the thought of that spec :D
[18:08] <kanliot> hmmm  6.0 GHZ
[18:08] <kanliot> faster than mine
[18:09] <keln> zleap: My whole machine only cost £400 though. :O
[18:09] <zleap> however i guess you would need the smp kernel and not sure if the standard default kernel can access16gb ram without something else (can anyone help)
[18:09] <zleap> keln, nice
[18:09] <kanliot> no way 6 GHZ
[18:09] <kanliot> i'm calling shennanigans
[18:10] <kanliot> same for the Radeon
[18:11] <kanliot> although Ace of Penguins would run pretty nice on 6 GHZ
[18:13] <keln> Lol I meant 3.60 GHz
[18:13] <keln> http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-FX-8150-Eight-Core-Processor/dp/B005UBNLFK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1347473574&sr=8-3
[18:13] <keln> I have a cheap mainboard though
[18:14] <kanliot> 4100 FX?
[18:14] <kanliot> never mind
[18:14] <kanliot> i cant read :(
[18:23] <TheLordOfTime> keln:  you should test with the livecd environment, see if it runs
[18:23] <TheLordOfTime> keln:  lubuntu should run on that, i've run Lubuntu on worse :p
[18:24] <keln> Okay I will check just to make sure
[18:24] <TheLordOfTime> this's why the live environments exist...
[18:24] <TheLordOfTime> so you can do general "testing" to see if stuff runs on your hardware
[18:25] <kanliot> i suggest putting the livecd on a usb flash drive
[18:25] <TheLordOfTime> note that the live environment is a tad slower than an actually installed version, but it still can be good to see if it'll actually run
[18:25] <TheLordOfTime> agreed
[18:28] <keln> kannliot: USB? I am rich enough to run the latest technology of DVDs thank you very much.
[18:28] <TheLordOfTime> USB live environments are faster :P
[18:28] <TheLordOfTime> !liveusb
[18:28] <keln> Premium quality of core
[18:29] <keln> I doubt it
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> tried and tested
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> USB 3.0
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> USB 2.0
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> USB 1.1
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> all of them
[18:29] <keln> One of my DVDs will beat a USB anyday
[18:29] <TheLordOfTime> do what you will, but if Lubuntu doesn't work on your system, you'll have wasted a DVD :P
[18:30] <keln> But I can formot the DVD
[18:30] <keln> *format
[18:30] <TheLordOfTime> DVD-RW...
[18:30] <kanliot> just do whatever is easier
[18:30] <TheLordOfTime> ugh
[18:31] <TheLordOfTime> i hate rewritable disks
[18:31] <TheLordOfTime> they futz up after a while
[18:31]  * TheLordOfTime notices his server is showing a load of 14.03
[18:31]  * TheLordOfTime disappears to address that
[18:32] <kanliot> 14?
[18:32] <TheLordOfTime> mhm
[18:32] <TheLordOfTime> don't ask'
[18:32] <kanliot> you win
[18:33] <keln> Why is when I format a DVD, all content on it is erased but much of the space that was used still exists
[18:34] <kanliot> donno
[18:35] <kanliot> lazy bits
[19:47] <Osmodivs> Hello. I use Lubuntu 12.04 32 bits. I can't open ZSNES, I get this error, I do not what does it means, Can anyone help me?
[19:47] <Osmodivs> http://pastebin.com/8ZZ5YVt3
[20:38] <miniCruzer> how do I apply the Lxterminal patch for the <CTRL><SHIFT>C issuing a break command
[21:25] <wxl> miniCruzer: what version of lubuntu you on>
[21:29] <silverarrow> 13.04
[21:30] <wxl> um, silverarrow, i was asking miniCruzer.
[21:47] <silverarrow> wxl, i could not resist
[21:48] <wxl> well, miniCruzer, if yo ucome back and you're running quantal, you can add the lubuntu-daily ppa from lubuntu-dev on launchpad and just do it that way
[21:48] <wxl> if not, yeah, you'll need to patch it
[21:49] <wxl> otherwise patch -p0 < file.diff should get you there
[21:53] <wxl> and if you're not running quantal but looking for a reason to, there you go. plus you can help with testing XD
[22:00] <D7> some of my apps do not follow the same widget theme I have chosen, what should I do about that?
[22:23] <hosoka> hello all
[22:23] <hosoka> I have installed lubuntu with alternate cd and everything was installed just fine.
[22:24] <hosoka> and then after reboot it tells me that the target filesystem doesn't  have requested /sbin/init.
[22:24] <hosoka> No init found. Try passing init= bootarg
[22:24] <hosoka> and then ends with a new line (initramfs)
[22:24] <hosoka> what to do ?
[22:42] <silverarrow> ho, you got no answers
[22:57] <tony__> too bad
[23:43] <hosoka> hello everyone
[23:43] <hosoka> only getting a black screen where I need to fill in my login and password
[23:43] <hosoka> how do i get my desktop back
[23:44] <wxl> hosoka: does it involve a flame?
[23:44] <hosoka> ?
[23:44] <wxl> like this:
[23:44] <wxl> http://www.bstegmaier.de/wiki/images/Xscreensaver.png
[23:45] <hosoka> no not that
[23:45] <wxl> did you log in then?
[23:45] <hosoka> compleet blackscreen
[23:45] <hosoka> it has the following after i logged in
[23:45] <hosoka> e.g.
[23:45] <wxl> so how do you know you need to fill in login and password?
[23:46] <wxl> what versin is this?
[23:46] <hosoka> hesdi@hesdi:~$
[23:46] <hosoka> how do I get into a desktop environment back
[23:46] <wxl> oh you're at a command prompt
[23:46] <wxl> what version are you using?
[23:46] <wxl> is this a new install?
[23:46] <hosoka> oldi
[23:46] <hosoka> 10.10
[23:47] <hosoka> yes a new install
[23:47] <wxl> not to question your choice, but is there a reason you chose such an old version?
[23:47] <hosoka> getting difficulties to install
[23:47] <hosoka> the only backup I had on cd
[23:47] <wxl> well then i would suggest getting a new one :)
[23:47] <wxl> old versions come with old bugs!
[23:47] <hosoka> with usb it does not work well
[23:48] <hosoka> i will try my best