[07:16] hi [07:33] hi [07:33] anyone having trouble with updates? [07:35] nope [07:35] just updated ~10 packages [07:40] my update manager is out of order [07:40] I was suggested a sudo .... and it works [07:42] I do worry about my update manger [07:42] I do not, I use apt-get [07:43] works like a charm [07:43] it does [07:43] but why would update manger act up? [07:43] I got a major update with this one [07:43] sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [07:45] it is still running ... [07:45] !!?? [07:45] what's running? [07:45] the updates in terminal [07:45] sorry, I dont see your computer [07:46] I should be more clear, but I was talking about my updates [07:46] sorry [08:17] how do I choose server in update manager settings? [08:34] hi jonathan === Newk1 is now known as Newk [14:25] kanliot, cat /etc/xdg/autostart/update-manager.conf [14:31] sgaci no such file or dir [14:31] sagaci, [14:31] there's your problem [14:32] ah wait [14:32] update-notifier? [14:32] does anything autostart? [14:32] i would use tab complete to make sure you are not "fat-fingering" the path, or choosing "no such" file or dir [14:32] update-manager starts from the start menu [14:32] but not from cron [14:33] tab completion won't tell you if a file doesn't exist === jacky is now known as jalcine [17:34] Hi. I'm have been running Xubuntu on an older laptop for a while. Considering installing Lubuntu. Are there any important differences? Also, is there a way too keep the applications I installed on Xubuntu? [17:35] Shwarmin: just install lubuntu-desktop, or LXDE [17:35] lubuntu is ubuntu is xubuntu... basically [17:39] lubuntu has a lighter setup of apps [17:40] Shwarmin: you should monitor cpu and ram load to compare xubuntu and lubuntu [17:40] Alright thx. So is Lubuntu just Xubuntu+LDXE then? [17:41] Shwarmin: ubuntu with LXDE [17:41] ubuntu ships with unity as the desktop environment [17:41] different burnder, CD player, browser setup [17:41] you can switch that to whatever you like.. XFCE for examle [17:41] example* [17:41] ubuntu with XFCE is what xubuntu is... with XFCE and other customizations [17:42] you can have XFCE and LXDE installed and choose between them at boot, like dual booting in a way [17:42] how much ram does the lappy have [17:42] Lubuntu runs less services [17:42] like no pulseaudio running all the time [17:43] just below 1 gig RAM [17:43] 768 [17:43] ? [17:43] or like 999 something [17:44] if you did a fresh install, you might notice a difference [17:44] you can always try [17:44] I don't remember. How can I quicly check? On windows I popped up Ccleaner for this stuff [17:44] but logging into LXDE, you're not going to notice a diiff [17:44] "system profiler and benchmark" [17:45] LXDE has that "freshly installed" snappiness [17:45] Shwarmin: if you type htop in terminal it will show ram and cpu useage [17:45] he'd have to install htop [17:46] ok, sudo apt-get intall htop ? [17:46] he has 1GB [17:46] yes installing htop [17:46] no need to check [17:46] I would compare loads between xubuntu and lubuntu [17:46] however, both should run well [17:47] naa [17:47] should be about the same [17:47] htop shows ram and cpu at least [17:48] and is small [17:49] it's 968 MB [17:49] cat /proc/meminfo [17:49] is the most exact way [17:49] free -m [17:49] yeah, it always shows a bit less [17:50] if you want exact numbers :) [17:50] let me try it [17:51] it shows exactly the same as htop on this ibook [17:51] total used free shared buffers cached [17:51] Mem: 968 893 75 0 14 311 [17:51] -/+ buffers/cache: 567 401 [17:51] Swap: 988 226 762 [17:52] i have 4GB of swap [17:52] i like to swap [17:52] 8GB swap on my other lubuntu [17:52] :D [17:53] when I was kid, we swapped c-casettes and disks [17:53] I hate active swap usage reall, but great for suspend and dormant mode [17:53] mixtapes off fm radio [17:53] mom had an 8 track [17:53] but 8GB of swap is quite a lot [17:53] lol [17:54] yeah but i am not lyin [17:54] impressive :) [17:54] I have 8GB of RAM on my Kubuntu machine and I have hardly reached half of it [17:54] there is this funny slipon cover for iphone 4s, looks like a cassette [17:54] i never use hibernate, but i could if i ever want 2 [17:55] i used 6.5 GB of ram disk last week [17:55] but otherwise never use ram [17:55] tmpfs [17:58] weird hangup [18:07] Hello, I have an 8 core AMD FX CPU (6.0GHz) and 16GB DDR3 RAM and a 6 GB Radeon Graphics card, will it be enough to run Lubuntu? [18:08] keln, that sounds more than enough [18:08] * zleap drools at the thought of that spec :D [18:08] hmmm 6.0 GHZ [18:08] faster than mine [18:09] zleap: My whole machine only cost £400 though. :O [18:09] however i guess you would need the smp kernel and not sure if the standard default kernel can access16gb ram without something else (can anyone help) [18:09] keln, nice [18:09] no way 6 GHZ [18:09] i'm calling shennanigans [18:10] same for the Radeon [18:11] although Ace of Penguins would run pretty nice on 6 GHZ [18:13] Lol I meant 3.60 GHz [18:13] http://www.amazon.co.uk/AMD-FX-8150-Eight-Core-Processor/dp/B005UBNLFK/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1347473574&sr=8-3 [18:13] I have a cheap mainboard though [18:14] 4100 FX? [18:14] never mind [18:14] i cant read :( [18:23] keln: you should test with the livecd environment, see if it runs [18:23] keln: lubuntu should run on that, i've run Lubuntu on worse :p [18:24] Okay I will check just to make sure [18:24] this's why the live environments exist... [18:24] so you can do general "testing" to see if stuff runs on your hardware [18:25] i suggest putting the livecd on a usb flash drive [18:25] note that the live environment is a tad slower than an actually installed version, but it still can be good to see if it'll actually run [18:25] agreed [18:28] kannliot: USB? I am rich enough to run the latest technology of DVDs thank you very much. [18:28] USB live environments are faster :P [18:28] !liveusb [18:28] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [18:28] Premium quality of core [18:29] I doubt it [18:29] tried and tested [18:29] USB 3.0 [18:29] USB 2.0 [18:29] USB 1.1 [18:29] all of them [18:29] One of my DVDs will beat a USB anyday [18:29] do what you will, but if Lubuntu doesn't work on your system, you'll have wasted a DVD :P [18:30] But I can formot the DVD [18:30] *format [18:30] DVD-RW... [18:30] just do whatever is easier [18:30] ugh [18:31] i hate rewritable disks [18:31] they futz up after a while [18:31] * TheLordOfTime notices his server is showing a load of 14.03 [18:31] * TheLordOfTime disappears to address that [18:32] 14? [18:32] mhm [18:32] don't ask' [18:32] you win [18:33] Why is when I format a DVD, all content on it is erased but much of the space that was used still exists [18:34] donno [18:35] lazy bits [19:47] Hello. I use Lubuntu 12.04 32 bits. I can't open ZSNES, I get this error, I do not what does it means, Can anyone help me? [19:47] http://pastebin.com/8ZZ5YVt3 [20:38] how do I apply the Lxterminal patch for the C issuing a break command [21:25] miniCruzer: what version of lubuntu you on> [21:29] 13.04 [21:30] um, silverarrow, i was asking miniCruzer. [21:47] wxl, i could not resist [21:48] well, miniCruzer, if yo ucome back and you're running quantal, you can add the lubuntu-daily ppa from lubuntu-dev on launchpad and just do it that way [21:48] if not, yeah, you'll need to patch it [21:49] otherwise patch -p0 < file.diff should get you there [21:53] and if you're not running quantal but looking for a reason to, there you go. plus you can help with testing XD [22:00] some of my apps do not follow the same widget theme I have chosen, what should I do about that? [22:23] hello all [22:23] I have installed lubuntu with alternate cd and everything was installed just fine. [22:24] and then after reboot it tells me that the target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init. [22:24] No init found. Try passing init= bootarg [22:24] and then ends with a new line (initramfs) [22:24] what to do ? [22:42] ho, you got no answers [22:57] too bad === lubuntu is now known as Guest29298 [23:43] hello everyone [23:43] only getting a black screen where I need to fill in my login and password [23:43] how do i get my desktop back [23:44] hosoka: does it involve a flame? [23:44] ? [23:44] like this: [23:44] http://www.bstegmaier.de/wiki/images/Xscreensaver.png [23:45] no not that [23:45] did you log in then? [23:45] compleet blackscreen [23:45] it has the following after i logged in [23:45] e.g. [23:45] so how do you know you need to fill in login and password? [23:46] what versin is this? [23:46] hesdi@hesdi:~$ [23:46] how do I get into a desktop environment back [23:46] oh you're at a command prompt [23:46] what version are you using? [23:46] is this a new install? [23:46] oldi [23:46] 10.10 [23:47] yes a new install [23:47] not to question your choice, but is there a reason you chose such an old version? [23:47] getting difficulties to install [23:47] the only backup I had on cd [23:47] well then i would suggest getting a new one :) [23:47] old versions come with old bugs! [23:47] with usb it does not work well [23:48] i will try my best