[01:39] <bazhang> !find lightread
[01:43] <WarlockS> Hey, I was wondering if there was a version of Lightread for 12.10B1
[01:45] <Daekdroom> There might be in a PPA or something like that.
[02:19] <needhelp1>  Hello all, im helping to pull some data for Ubuntu Beta releases and have a very short survey up on google documents found here. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFdSTUgzREoyeFZNSWRHSjlXMGYteGc6MQ    Anyone interested please take the survey and feel free to share the link. The results will be published in two weeks to the public domain.
[02:19] <needhelp1> any help would be greatly appreciated
[02:19] <bazhang> needhelp1, no polling here
[02:21] <eamon> What is the most stable version of kubuntu 12.10?
[02:21] <bazhang> there is none, its in beta eamon
[02:22] <needhelp1> bazhang, sure thing. sorry for the inconvenience.
[02:26] <eamon> bazhang: I was assuming that ubuntu's "beta 1" was more stable than the nightly. I was wondering if something similar existts for kubuntu, for which I can only find nightlys. Do you maintain that my initial presumption is incorrect?
[02:27] <bazhang> eamon, it's in development. not released means not stable.
[02:30] <eamon> that's a dichotomous meaning. from my wording, namely the inclusion of a superlative, it was quit easy to deduce that I was employing the non-technical use
[02:30] <eamon> bazhang^
[02:31] <bazhang> !info unity-2d
[02:32] <eamon> Is there a beta release of kubuntu?
[02:33] <tambu> Hey guys, 12.10 is there a way to switch to 2D mode of unity? my graphics card has issues with it
[02:33] <bazhang> yes there is
[02:34] <bazhang> https://wiki.kubuntu.org/QuantalQuetzal/Beta1/Kubuntu eamon
[02:35] <bazhang> augh ask and quit
[02:35] <trism> tambu: if you install gnome-panel, gnome classic (no effects) should work, otherwise unity is supposed to fallback to using software rendered graphics with llvmpipe but I haven't really played with it
[02:46] <Daekdroom> llvmpipe might not be working very well with Unity yet.
[02:50] <tambu> trism: I can't get package manager to pull up compwiz keeps crashing. will "apt-get install gnome-panel" work?
[02:51] <trism> tambu: yep
[02:57] <tambu> trism ok installed "gnome-panel" not sure what you mean by gnome classic (no effects) is that a tool someplace?
[02:57] <Daekdroom> tambu, it's a session option in the login screen
[02:57] <bazhang> it's a choice in the login window
[02:57] <ChogyDan> hey, um, how can I change the mounting mount point behaviour back to the old method?
[02:57] <ChogyDan> Im not sure Im saying it right
[02:57] <tambu> ah ok logging off :)
[02:58] <bazhang> ChogyDan, fstab?
[02:58] <ChogyDan> bazhang: you mean, just create fstab entries for the partitions
[02:58] <bazhang> ChogyDan, you need the uuid?
[02:59] <ChogyDan> no, Im just used to double clicking in Computer
[03:02] <tambu> trism: Sorry guys logged off and even rebooted after installing "gnome-pane" I don't see any options to change the login session is there an obvious step I missed?
[03:02] <ChogyDan> tambu: you don't see gnome-classic?
[03:03] <ChogyDan> tambu: you need to click the icon in the upper right
[03:03] <trism> tambu: there is an ubuntu symbol next to your name on the greeter
[03:04] <tambu> trism: ah thanks I saw that there before I installed gnome-class and had clicked on it to no effect.. didn't realize it was added there
[03:06] <trism> tambu: ahh interesting, didn't realize it was non-functional with only one session
[03:39] <SolarAquarion> Something is wrong with my file system  /msg NickServ identify
[03:39] <SolarAquarion> http://privatepaste.com/76ec175a69
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> SolarAquarion, what is the OS you have?
[05:45] <gnomefreak> good morning/night
[07:53] <rose7676> help
[07:53] <rose7676> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:53] <rose7676>  fglrx : Depends: xorg-video-abi-11 but it is not installable
[07:53] <rose7676>          Recommends: fglrx-amdcccle but it is not going to be installed
[07:53] <rose7676> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[07:53] <jokerdino> rose7676: tried apt-get -f install yet?
[07:54] <rose7676> jokerdino, Building dependency tree
[07:54] <rose7676> Reading state information... Done
[07:54] <rose7676> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:54] <rose7676> ?\
[07:55] <jokerdino> ah
[07:55] <rose7676> 12.04 and 12.10
[07:56] <tsimpson> rose7676: you have been answered in #ubuntu-devel already
[07:56] <rose7676> tsimpson, kk
[07:56] <tsimpson> for anyone else who's interested: it's broken right now, just have to wait
[07:57] <jokerdino> thanks tsimpson
[09:51] <md_5> ...... last night I installed 600mb of Ubuntu beta updates, now it wants me to get another 114mb
[09:52] <tsimpson> welcome to development releases
[09:55] <md_5> tsimpson debian dev isnt that bad :P
[09:55] <md_5> Mind you I dont have many packages on that install
[09:55] <tsimpson> because debian only release every decade or so :p
[09:55] <md_5> tsimpson still waiting for 7.0 final :P
[09:56] <md_5> My server has been running 7 for about 9 months now
[10:31] <pwuertz> Hi! Is anyone else having trouble with empathy in 12.10 as well? The application worked very well in 12.04 but after the upgrade it keeps disconnecting every few hours and often looses the google talk credentials completely...
[11:13] <ironhalik> hmm, anyone noticed issue with text input?
[11:13] <ironhalik> lately
[11:15] <BluesKaj_> Hi all
[11:16] <vega-> pwuertz: yes, sometimes it doesn't go online after boot ..
[11:19] <pwuertz> oh.. and who is responsible for this bad default behavior of blocking applications from accessing systray?
[11:20] <pwuertz> can't this be enabled for 12.10 again?
[11:23] <SolarAquarion> wilee-nilee ubuntu 12.10
[11:44] <SolarAquarion> Ubuntu 12.10 http://privatepaste.com/76ec175a69
[11:53] <SolarAquarion> Something on my ubuntu system is wrong http://privatepaste.com/76ec175a69 i am using ubuntu 12.10
[13:19] <[4-tea-2]> Greetings, can anybody reproduce this: Shotwell, Preferences, turn on the "Publishing" plugin for "Picasa Web Albums", select a picture, choose "Publish" from the "File" menu -> "Unable to publish" error msg
[14:32] <sebas_> How can I start Ubuntu in videocompat. mode?
[15:31] <Debolaz> Where is this new sync indicator that was announced for beta1? I've set up Ubuntu One, and I don't see it.
[16:02] <Captain_Proton> does anyone know if they plan on integrating lighting in the time/date applet?
[16:31] <pinnen> Hi, I am about to install "Ubuntu 12.10 beta1" and I am using the normal amd64 -install -disk, with an nvidia 8800GT -graphics card, but the installation fails.. when i press .. "Start ubuntu setup" from the install usb I made.. I get this question.. "Undefined video mode number: 0" .. And when it tries to boot X11(the installer) the driver seems to crash.. and I get strange colors and nothing happens. Any tips? :)
[16:40] <pinnen> http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/261199_245626455450319_100000089002863_1093936_4275477_n.jpg
[16:40] <pinnen> It looks something like that
[16:42] <trism> pinnen: if you hit f6 from the syslinux menu when booting the iso, you should be able to enable nomodeset which sometimes works around those sort of problems
[16:43] <trism> pinnen: unless you're using unetbootin in which case you might have to manually add it to the line
[16:45] <pinnen> trism: yes, I just found that out.. thanks! It did the trick >D
[16:45] <pinnen> sorry to disturb :(
[16:46] <pinnen> one sould read just a little more before asking.. :)
[16:46] <pinnen> thx m8
[16:47] <trism> pinnen: not disturbing at all, feel free to continue asking questions, that's what we are here for
[17:03] <Captain_Proton> does anyone know if they plan on integrating lighting in the time/date applet?
[17:04] <jbicha> pinnen: I filed bug 1049650 for it
[17:05] <jbicha> well at least one part of your problem, you might be having other issues
[17:23] <alkisg> Hi, I see no i386 version in http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/12.10/beta-1/, should I download the daily instead? Is it installable?
[17:25] <trism> alkisg: http://releases.ubuntu.com/quantal/
[17:25] <alkisg> Thank you trism
[17:32] <alkisg> Btw, is 12.10 installable in vbox (no 3D) now that unity-2d is missing?
[17:33] <jtaylor> alkisg: yes it now uses llvmpipe
[17:33] <alkisg> Cool
[17:33] <jtaylor> but there are still issues
[17:34]  * alkisg is just trying to verify that keyboard layouts for languages != english are still broken since lightdm landed...
[17:35] <alkisg> 12.04 didn't solve that, maybe now they'll put an iso testing task there, solve the problem and backport it to 12.04, as it's really annoying not being able to type in one's language...
[17:36] <alkisg> That part broke first in gdm, we sent patches, then in gdm2, patches again, then in lightdm, accountsservice, ubiquity-dm... progress gets backwards there :(
[19:31] <smallfoot-> hi
[19:32] <smallfoot-> i just run an update today
[19:32] <smallfoot-> and now my fonts look thin and ugly
[19:35] <jtaylor> have that too, forced me back to precise ._.
[19:36] <trism> smallfoot-: as mentioned in bug 1049963 do you have ubuntu-default-settings installed?
[19:37] <smallfoot-> oh
[19:37] <smallfoot-> no i dont
[19:37] <smallfoot-> should i?
[19:37] <trism> smallfoot-: yes that is where the hinting setting is now
[19:37] <trism> (fonts look fine here on my desktop)
[19:38] <jbicha> smallfoot-: do you use Unity?
[19:38] <smallfoot-> no, i use gnome-session-fallback (classic)
[19:38] <jbicha> smallfoot-: you could install ubuntu-gnome-default-settings if you like, it doesn't have as many overrides as ubuntu-default-settings
[19:39] <smallfoot-> why doesn't ubuntu-desktop depend on ubuntu-default-settings ?
[19:39] <jbicha> it does
[19:39] <smallfoot-> and why was font hinting dropped from g-s-d?
[19:39] <trism> smallfoot-: forget to dist-upgrade?
[19:39] <jbicha> because it was moved to ubuntu-default-settings, we don't need the override in 2 places
[19:40] <jbicha> and some people may actually like the upstream defaults
[19:40] <smallfoot-> trism, i just run apt-get update & upgrade
[19:40] <trism> smallfoot-: it was just added so you'll need dist-upgrade to pull it in
[19:40] <smallfoot-> wow, upstream fonts are horrible ugly. is this how debian looks like?
[19:41] <smallfoot-> trism, thanks
[19:41] <jbicha> well GNOME actually uses fonts-cantarell by default, but yeah
[19:42] <smallfoot-> wow
[19:42] <smallfoot-> now i know why people use ubuntu instead of debian
[19:42] <smallfoot-> these fonts look fuggly
[19:43] <smallfoot-> gotta restart to get my fonts back pretty
[19:45] <smallfoot-> thanks, fonts look great again! stunning! :)