[09:36] <ogra_> rsalveti, http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTE4MjI
[09:37] <ogra_> what a collection of utter unresearched nonsense
[09:52] <lilstevie> ogra_, I thought the problem was that LLVMpipe didn't work on arm, not that it had poor performance
[09:53] <ogra_> lilstevie, well, you have a fast mouose on top of a slideshow
[09:53] <ogra_> :)
[09:53] <lilstevie> lol
[09:54] <lilstevie> is that due to a bug though, or the cpu not being able to keep up
[09:58] <ogra_> it is due to non existing code for arm
[09:58] <ogra_> it simply falls back to swrast
[10:02] <lilstevie> ah
[10:02] <lilstevie> so yeah, not a performance issue as much as lack of support in the software itself
[10:04] <ogra_> right
[10:05] <lilstevie> well that seems fair enough then :p
[10:05] <lilstevie> do you know if the tegra r16 drivers have that bug with unity fixed?
[10:31] <ogra_> lilstevie, i dont have a proper kernel yet (waiting on janimo and marvin24 here)
[10:31] <ogra_> and i dont want to trash my current 12.04 install with non packaged kernels
[10:32] <ogra_> (12.10 wont work for r16 anyway ... (ABI 13 isnt supported))
[10:33] <marvin24> lilstevie: r16 fails alltogether here
[10:33] <marvin24> some strange symlink problem
[10:34] <marvin24> and even if I force load the libraries, no gles output is rendered
[10:34] <ogra_> device permissions  ?
[10:34] <ogra_> they might have changed
[10:34] <marvin24> no, driver problem
[10:34] <ogra_> k
[10:34] <marvin24> it says something like "too few shaders to compile"
[10:35] <marvin24> even with es2gears
[10:35] <ogra_> GL libs issue ?
[10:35] <ogra_> did you have the r15 package installed before ?
[10:35] <marvin24> yes
[10:35] <ogra_> might be that the alternatives point to the r15 stuff
[10:35] <ogra_> uninstall it
[10:36] <marvin24> the stange thing was, that even the ld path was correct, it didn't found the libs
[10:36] <marvin24> r15 and r16 are in the same dir
[10:36] <marvin24> I just copied them over
[10:36] <ogra_> hmm
[10:36] <marvin24> (and killed what was leftover from r15)
[10:37] <marvin24> srwarren said something about es2_info using the wrong libs and needs to be recompiled
[10:37] <ogra_> huh ?
[10:37] <marvin24> sorry, I don't understand what the problem is
[10:37] <marvin24> the nv libs have no version
[10:38] <ogra_> thats nonsense
[10:38] <marvin24> e.g. foo.so.1
[10:38] <marvin24> but es2_info wants them
[10:38] <marvin24> so I created a symlink, but that didn't helped
[10:38] <ogra_> did you run ldconfig afterwards ?
[10:38] <marvin24> on  the other hand, creating a symlink from nvidia-tegra/foo.so to /usr/lib/foo.so.1 helped
[10:39] <marvin24> sure I did
[10:39] <marvin24> I even checked with ldconfig -v
[10:39] <ogra_> weird
[10:40] <ogra_> thats all with the current kernel though, right ?
[10:41] <marvin24> with a r16 kernel
[10:41] <marvin24> but I think this shouldn't matter
[10:42] <ogra_> well, if it really shouldnt matter i should probably try myself with a proper r16 package :)
[10:43] <marvin24> ogra_: you can try, you can revert back easily
[11:13] <torpor> anyone in here got a TI DLP pico projector?
[12:57] <rsalveti> ogra_: oh dear
[12:57] <ogra_> yeah, made me a bit grumpy
[12:57] <ogra_> so badly researched
[12:59] <rsalveti> yup
[13:00] <rsalveti> the most important thing, that is the gles merge at compiz trunk is not there
[13:00] <ogra_> it is on the beta image
[13:00] <ogra_> but he also claims the pvr driver isnt ...
[13:01] <rsalveti> that's true, guess the idea was just to rant about the decision of using llvmpipe
[13:02] <ogra_> (which is a lie and he could have checked with dpkg ... unless he used an image pre-beta indeed)
[13:02] <rsalveti> because it's not well supported at this point, or at least until it gets some kind of neon support
[13:02] <ogra_> yeah, and say that it runs just fine on fedora ...
[13:02] <ogra_> comapring apples and oranges :P
[13:02] <rsalveti> hahah, yeah yeah
[13:02] <ogra_> (GNOME on armv5 vs unity on v7)
[13:03] <rsalveti> yeah, and it's not using beta
[13:03] <rsalveti> otherwise pvr would be enabled
[13:03] <ogra_> right
[13:04] <rsalveti> let's land this kernel fix and create another blog post showing how it's performing ;-)
[13:05] <ogra_> ++
[13:05] <ogra_> :)
[13:05]  * ogra_ would have so much to blog about ....
[13:05] <ogra_> my embedded filesystem builder slowly gets into shape :)
[13:05] <hrw> o rsalveti woke up
[13:05] <ogra_> my core rootfs is 3.5M big ;)
[13:06] <ogra_> and i completely HW hacked one of my ac100s :)
[13:06] <hrw> I hope to be able to build rootfs for my current target one day
[13:07] <hrw> ogra_: what added/changed?
[13:07] <ogra_> (updated to 720p panel, running with 1.2GHz overclocking and using an internal 32G USB disk now)
[13:07] <ogra_> that was ~100€ and a weekend of HW tinkering :)
[13:08] <hrw> nice
[13:08] <hrw> add second 512MB ram
[13:08] <ogra_> i wish i could
[13:09] <ogra_> even if you add POP ram, there is no wiring so you couldnt attach it
[13:09] <ogra_> the HW is only wired up for 512M
[13:09] <ogra_> but i switched to openbox anyway, so 512M arent such a big constraint anymore
[13:10] <ogra_> openbox, midori and sylpheed
[13:11] <hrw> I tried to make a use of efikasb but it was too slow. you atlesast have dualcore cpu
[13:13] <ogra_> yeah
[13:13] <ogra_> well, with the ablve hack the ac100 actually gets quite usable
[13:13] <ogra_> *above
[13:13] <ogra_> havin all my mail locally on disk really helps
[13:13] <hrw> yeah
[13:14] <ogra_> way faster than searching throuh a 40000 bugmail box remotely
[19:26] <Wizard> HI.