[00:10] <tgm4883> ping anyone
[00:10] <tgm4883> correction
[00:10] <tgm4883> ping anyone that wants to comment on a theme change I might make
[12:18] <HenkPoley> Hi, who should I contact to get https://github.com/MythTV/mythtv/pull/24 integrated in the 0.25-fixes build ?
[12:18] <Zinn> [github.com] Fix Channel Tuning Broken with DVB-C (Ziggo), closes #7486 by bas-t Â· Pull Request #24 Â· MythTV/mythtv Â· GitHub
[13:25] <mal2> hi, trying to run mythbackend setup. It's asking for my password to add me to the mythtv group. I enter my password and it is deemed wrong, what can I do?
[13:41] <dmfrey> tgm4883, hopefully i have quelled all their bickering by just telling them to post enhancement requests on the github page
[13:46] <mal2> mythbackend keeps asking for my password but I keep entering it, and it keeps telling me it's wrong
[13:47] <dmfrey> when does it prompt you for the password?
[13:48] <mal2> when it wants to add me to the mythtv group for starters
[13:48] <dmfrey> you should already be in that group
[13:49] <dmfrey> from command line, enter 'groups', one should be mythtv
[13:49] <mal2> I downloaded mythtv later
[13:49] <mal2> maybe thaat has something to do with it
[13:49] <mal2> yes
[13:49] <mal2> one is
[13:49] <dmfrey> try editing /etc/group and add your user id to the mythtv group, then either log out or reboot
[13:50] <dmfrey> if it is already there, then I am not sure what is asking you to be added to the mythtv group
[13:51] <dmfrey> is it just an ubuntu system that you have added mythtv to?
[13:51] <dmfrey> via packages in apt?
[13:51] <dmfrey> via source?
[13:51] <mal2> lubuntu
[13:52] <mal2> synaptic
[13:53] <dmfrey> everything seemed to install correctly?
[13:53] <mal2> yes
[13:53] <mal2> I'm now in that group but...
[13:53] <mal2> when I try to enter the setup it wants to stop the backend
[13:53] <mal2> asks me for password again
[13:54] <dmfrey> that's expected
[13:54] <mal2> and tells me it's wrong
[13:54] <dmfrey> tells you what is wrong?
[13:54] <mal2> my password
[13:54] <dmfrey> oh, password
[13:54] <dmfrey> should be your user password for when you run update manager or synaptic
[13:54] <mal2> yes
[13:54] <mal2> I KNOW my password is correct
[13:55] <dmfrey> i am not doubting that
[13:55] <dmfrey> i wasn't sure if you were using that one or the mythtv password
[13:55] <mal2> I set that the same
[13:55] <mal2> I've changed mine to no avail
[13:55] <qwebirc29475> can the mythtv user get root/sudo ?
[13:55] <mal2> and changed it back
[13:56] <qwebirc29475> aka, mal2, is it in sudoers ?
[13:56] <dmfrey> are you trying to run as mythtv or your desktop user?
[13:56] <mal2> dmfrey yes
[13:56] <qwebirc29475> .. /etc/sudoers even
[13:56] <dmfrey> which is it?
[13:57] <mal2> seems I am not in the sudoers file
[13:57] <dmfrey> then how are you running updates with that user?
[13:58] <mal2> beats me
[14:01] <mal2> I can't add myself to the sudoers file as I can 't get access
[14:01] <mal2> hmmm
[14:05] <mal2> any ideas?
[14:06] <mal2> I can't find any useful info on this, I have found stuff telling me "visudo" but thta's no good
[14:09] <qwebirc29475> mal2, what does `groups` say for your user and mythtv accounts ?
[14:11] <mal2> 'group' for user mal:x:1000:
[14:12] <mal2> mythtv:x:120:mal
[14:13] <qwebirc29475> no what does the command `groups` say?
[14:13] <mal2> mal mythtv
[14:15] <qwebirc29475> that's pretty odd, can you still play audio as any of those users, or access the CD/DVD ?
[14:15] <qwebirc29475> oh wait, audio is not in a group anymore
[14:16] <mal2> thinking of starting again
[14:16] <mal2> something's fubar somewhere
[14:20] <mal2> this is messed up, I can't even unmount a drive
[14:20] <mal2> can I switch the terminal to the mythtv user?
[14:24] <qwebirc29475> su mythtv ? then enter password
[14:27] <mal2> hmmm, it says "added user mythtv" that seems odd
[14:27] <mal2> okay now it says mythtv is not in the sudoers file either
[14:28] <mal2> seems I have no sudo access at all
[14:30] <qwebirc29475> are you currently in a normal startup mode? (aka not single-user mode)
[14:30] <qwebirc29475> some of the recovery modes might not load groups or something
[14:30] <mal2> I googled and it's tel;ing me recovery mode
[14:31] <qwebirc29475> yeah, in the recovery mode you basically get root
[14:31] <mal2> I'll do that
[14:31] <qwebirc29475> then you may be able to restore some sanity if you know how :P
[14:32] <mal2> what could possibly go wrong? 8)
[14:35] <qwebirc29475> What does this button do? Ooooohh shiny..
[14:47] <mal2> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand we're back
[14:47] <mal2> I i have sudo again
[14:47] <mal2> now....where was I?
[14:48] <mal2> still getting the wrong password error though in myth bakend setup
[14:50] <qwebirc29475> you could also try to just stop mythtv-backend: `sudo service mythtv-backend stop`
[14:50] <qwebirc29475> On my backend that part of mythtv-setup doesn't work either
[14:51] <qwebirc29475> Oh, and if your sudo is gone again you've got a rootkit :P
[14:51] <mal2> after 3 wrong attempts it starts the mythbackend setup thing anyway
[14:54] <mal2> thanks for all your help
[14:54] <mal2> really late
[14:54] <mal2> gonna stop
[14:54] <mal2> I've made mistakes when really tired before...
[14:58] <mal2> cheers
[15:05] <qwebirc29475> How would you make a diff from this: https://github.com/bas-t/mythtv/commit/121944723e49bc81cbc31f7db932b97c612726d6 ?
[15:05] <Zinn> [github.com] Fix Channel Tuning Broken with DVB-C (Ziggo), closes #7486 Â· 1219447 Â· bas-t/mythtv Â· GitHub
[15:05] <qwebirc29475> So I can add it as a patch to a .deb file (as described here http://www.mythbuntu.org/wiki/recipes )
[15:05] <Zinn> [www.mythbuntu.org] Recipes | Mythbuntu
[15:06] <qwebirc29475> clone the full git, or does github have a backdoor for raw diff access ?
[15:07] <qwebirc29475> Ohhh, that's easy. Just add .diff to the URL
[17:19] <qwebirc29475> Hmm mythtv's packaging.git scripts error out on a fresh mythbuntu 12.04.1
[17:19] <qwebirc29475> missing get-build-deps
[17:47] <tgm4883> qwebirc29475, are you running build-debs.sh?
[18:47] <qwebirc29475> tgm4883: yes
[18:48] <qwebirc29475> on a fresh 12.04.1 primary mythtv-backend VM
[18:56] <tgm4883> qwebirc29475, looks like get-build-deps was removed in 11.04
[18:56] <tgm4883> discussion here https://github.com/MythTV/packaging/pull/26
[18:56] <Zinn> [github.com] In Ubuntu Precise the script 'get-build-deps' is no longer present by bas-t Â· Pull Request #26 Â· MythTV/packaging Â· GitHub
[19:00] <stuartm> superm1: tgm4883: upgrading to oneric and it's telling me that mythtv-frontend depends on transcode - any idea why?
[19:04] <tgm4883> stuartm, is it needed for ripping?
[19:05] <stuartm> no, we've not supported ripping for a long time now
[19:05] <stuartm> well not ripping of DVD/Bluray
[19:05] <tgm4883> it's set as a dependency, but IDK why
[19:06] <tgm4883> I didn't add it
[19:07] <stuartm> possibly a legacy dep then
[19:07] <tgm4883> possibly
[19:07] <tgm4883> I'll grab some lunch and let superm1 decide
[19:12] <stuartm> under missing deps, installing mythtv-backend didn't install mysql ...
[19:14] <tgm4883> stuartm, it wouldn't
[19:14] <tgm4883> you're looking for mythtv-backend-master
[19:16] <stuartm> tgm4883: ahh, doing this all blind
[20:36] <superm1> stuartm: mmm there was a good reason that it pulled that in back then
[20:36] <superm1> i don't think it was for ripping, because that would have come from the mythdvd plugin
[20:37] <superm1> of course debian/changelog doesn't show that well
[22:32] <stuartm> having problems with auto login and lightdm, I've modified lightdm.conf with autologin-user=<username> and all the other recommended stuff, but it still prompts for the username/password
[22:38] <superm1> stuartm: are you also specifying the user-session and greeter-session?
[22:38] <superm1> and also do you have mythbuntu-lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf in the directory?
[22:39] <superm1> i know a few releases back we had a weird upgrade problem with the transition to lightdm that wasn't sorted out until next release
[22:39] <stuartm> yes, yes and yes
[22:39] <superm1> is gdm still installed and being used maybe?
[22:39] <stuartm> no
[22:40] <stuartm> it's definitely using lightdm and other config options such as allow-guest=false are being honoured
[22:40] <superm1> hmm interesting
[22:44] <stuartm> ah, fixed it, it didn't like "autologin-session=lightdm-autologin" which I added based on a forum post by you on the subject
[22:46] <superm1> it could be that the syntax isn't consistent among releases
[22:46] <superm1> which i think might be the case
[22:46] <stuartm> no, that didn't work, just looked like it had from the logs (I'm moving between rooms)
[22:47] <superm1> if you can go all the way up to precise on the upgrades, you should
[22:47] <superm1> then you'll be on the long term release and not have to touch for a while the infrastructure
[22:47] <superm1> and then you can sort out this lightdm problem (if it still exists) on precise
[22:47] <stuartm> [+0.60s] DEBUG: Failed to load session file /usr/share/xsessions/mythbuntu.desktop: No such file or directory:
[22:48] <stuartm> that's the only error from the logs, not sure why though
[22:49] <superm1> oh you're missing the mythbuntu xfce session
[22:49] <stuartm> superm1: I will, but given how much trouble going from natty to oneric has caused, and several hours now of working on it, I need to get that machine back up and working for a day or two before I'll have time to upgrade further
[22:49] <superm1> you'll need the mythbuntu-default-settings package
[22:49] <superm1> which should have come in via mythbuntu-desktop metapackage (if you've removed that)
[22:50] <superm1> sorry to hear how much  trouble it was coming from natty to oneiric
[22:50] <stuartm> I went to pull in the -desktop package, but figured it wasn't required when it wanted to install chrome etc
[22:50] <superm1> part of the reason we want to focus on just LTS.  we might actually be able to put enough testing behind it to encourage people to upgrade from one LTS to another
[22:51] <superm1> stuartm: you can install the desktop package with --no-install-recommends
[22:51] <stuartm> superm1: most of the problems I had weren't mythbuntu's fault, all ubuntu and a minor mistake on my part (I think)
[22:51] <superm1> and then it won't pull in extra stuff like chrome if you don't want it
[22:52] <superm1> yeah even stuff that is ubuntu's fault, it's better that we can catch it and all work on fixing it together rather than relying on them and pointing fingers when stuff breaks
[22:52] <stuartm> superm1: ah, ok that's better
[22:52] <stuartm> I've still not got audio working again, that's strange since it works before I login but not afterwards :(
[22:53] <superm1> oh that's really weird
[22:53] <superm1> did pulse get pulled in somehow?
[22:53] <stuartm> no, made very sure that it's not installed
[22:55] <stuartm> anyway, slowly getting there, I'll call it a night and maybe get the remaining issues (just the audio I think) sorted tomorrow morning
[22:56] <superm1> good luck :)
[23:04] <stuartm> heh, one last reboot to test the autologin properly and audio has started working, not going to dwell on the why
[23:04] <stuartm> but I'll need to dig out a backup of my lirc config because it seems mine has been overwritten