| thomi | lifeless: got any advice for how to responsibly deprecate parts of a python module over time? Any hints / pointers? | 05:37 |
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| thomi | I'm sure I've seen people use a '@deprecated' decorator, not sure how effective that is though | 05:38 |
| lifeless | thomi: rm ? :) | 05:56 |
| thomi | heh | 05:56 |
| thomi | I guess I was looking for a nice way to phase out old functions that I don't want people using. | 05:57 |
| thomi | Are you suggesting that it's better to just bite the bullet and delete them and deal with the fallout? | 05:57 |
| lifeless | Well | 06:00 |
| lifeless | So there are a few nuances | 06:00 |
| lifeless | do you have an ecosystem? | 06:00 |
| lifeless | How much time do folk in that ecosystem have? How much will it annoy them having to deal with deprecations? | 06:00 |
| lifeless | For instance, if you have a three tier thing | 06:00 |
| lifeless | core -> plugins -> users | 06:00 |
| lifeless | then when core deprecates something, and then removes, plugins have a grace period, which can be good | 06:01 |
| lifeless | but if you have | 06:01 |
| lifeless | core -> users | 06:01 |
| lifeless | then deprecation doesn't really do anything | 06:01 |
| lifeless | as the folk affected are the folk with the power and expectation of fixing. | 06:01 |
| lifeless | bzr has some decorators you could snarf | 06:02 |
| mwhudson | morning | 19:48 |
| chilts | morning | 19:57 |
| ojwb | morning | 20:03 |
| thomi | lifeless: sorry, I had to dissapear yesterday - thanks for your answer | 20:16 |
| thomi | I'm talking about autopilot, so I have core -> users | 20:16 |
| Atamira | moring | 20:20 |
| Atamira | morning | 20:20 |
| ajmitch | morning | 20:25 |
| fmarier | has everybody seen this already? http://no.softwarepatents.org.nz/ | 21:04 |
| lifeless | I sure hope so ! | 21:04 |
| fmarier | lifeless: me too, but just in case :) | 21:04 |
| ajmitch | s/seen/signed/ | 21:04 |
| lifeless | thomi: so yeah, changing an API on your users is much less traumatic when they aren't producing other components in the ecosystem | 21:04 |
| thomi | lifeless: sounds good to me. Especially since (so far), I'm a developer on all the projects that use autopilot | 21:05 |
| ajmitch | that makes it a bit easier to coordinate deprecations | 21:06 |
| thomi | yeah | 21:06 |
| lifeless | for direct use in that situation I wouldn't deprecate | 21:06 |
| lifeless | deprecation in e.g. bzrlib is much more important IMNSHO. | 21:07 |
| lifeless | of course, if you want to grow an ecosystem - chicken and egg :) | 21:07 |
| thomi | yeah | 21:08 |
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