=== charles__ is now known as Guest11727 === Guest11727 is now known as charles [08:03] are there any other iBook G4 user who has made any report on the beta? [08:24] is anyone clever with media players, plugins and html5? [08:25] I have installed way to many media players [08:25] totem shows up as player on youtube, with html5 as one [08:25] it streams youtube? [08:26] weird, but good [08:26] it is gnome player opened through Totem windows [09:14] mvo, with apt_pkg or apt in python is there a way to find which pocket a source package belongs to ? I'd like to identify new versions of packages or their dependencies uploaded to -proposed === mmrazik is now known as mmrazik|lunch [09:26] jibel: in a call right now, but I can help (hopefully) in some minutes wit hthis [09:27] jibel: it is possible, but a little bit cumbersome [09:48] mvo, np, what I'm doing now is iterating through source_records and check which source index the records refers to. So essentially I'm wondering if there is a smarter way to do the same. [09:59] jibel: thats the way, unfortunately there is no nice wraper around the source_records stuff (yet?) [10:01] mvo, I'll continue with this then. Thanks ! [10:20] is anyone booted in ubuntu now? [10:20] Er you mean Unity silverarrow? [10:20] is totem capable of handeling youtuve? [10:21] Dunno [10:21] I have hte weirdest situation [10:22] sorry, wrong channel [10:22] lol [10:23] are you clever with media players and browser streams? [10:23] No I don't silverarrow === mmrazik|lunch is now known as mmrazik === _salem is now known as salem_ === sagaci_ is now known as sagaci === cjohnston_ is now known as cjohnston [14:26] was it ever verified why ppc beta will not install, the double issue with windows manager and installer? [14:26] or graphics even [14:27] taoseeker: I think we concluded it is a graphics X bug, phillw will tell you more:) [14:27] I see [14:28] it will freeze up installer? [14:34] taoseeker: the x-org fix that was issued affects chip sets the ppc macs do not have. [14:36] so, the fix do not work or the problem doesn`t regard ppc? [14:36] does* [14:36] phillw, are you clever with media player in browser ? [14:37] taoseeker: the fix doesn't work. They are looking at the rough equivalent of nomodeset in the yaboot file. [14:37] I see [14:37] kanliot, ok, so lubuntu is install now on my precise box [14:37] phillw, this is really stupid, but did they try the alt cd? [14:38] :) [14:38] the alt cd when? my precise install in this case is from the alt cd :-) [14:38] kanliot: yes, that has a different, critical bug. [14:38] ohh.. lol.. the ppc bug [14:38] taoseeker: bug 1044180 should have the update [14:38] yeah [14:38] Launchpad bug 1044180 in debian-installer (Ubuntu) "Screen Freeze on Bootup - Lubuntu 12.10 PPC Alternate Aug 30 Build" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1044180 [14:38] ;-) [14:38] would QQ on ppc work if you use the Alt-cd or is it every boot [14:39] ok that answers that [14:39] kanliot: both desktop & alternate 'failed', two different critical bugs [14:39] 3 days before beta 1 was due. We simply ran out of time to look for solutions [14:39] you sound like you're taking it personally [14:40] kanliot: not personally, but it was a bit of a blow to lose both of our ppc builds :/ [14:40] i have an odd case with media players I am trying to explain. I have both totem and gnome mplayer with verious plugin packages. in some videos and tv streams they seem to launch on top of each other and work, where they do not at all alone [14:41] I will be back in approx 1 hour, I paused some work I was doing for my parent's company to attend the meeting. catch you all soon. [14:42] :) brb phillw [14:42] in youtube I can have three players on top of each other [14:43] sounds like a plugin problem taoseeker [14:43] yes, but with benefits [14:43] i mean firefox addon [14:44] where ppc browser plugins are broken all over the place, on top of each other, gnome mplayer streams what it should not be capable of [14:44] k, everything up to date.. booting into lubuntu [14:44] add oil balloons:) [14:45] kanliot, it is of course clonflicting plugin setup, but the what made me wonder is why gone mplayer suddenly works ? [14:46] what it is exactly that is working would be nice to figure out [14:46] I can now watch tv on ppc, opening gnome mplayer through totem window [14:46] have you asked the firefox people? [14:46] they have no idea [14:46] ppc is ignored categorically [14:47] do you know silverarrow? [14:47] even if they know [14:48] yeah, [14:48] wait, battery ciris [14:48] * balloons hits head on wall [14:48] I dist-upgraded.. how can I test the bug now [14:48] to qq or to 12.04.1 [14:48] ? [14:49] balloons [14:49] I was on 12.04 precise install [14:49] I put on lubuntu.. and out of habit, did a dist-upgrade [14:49] sorry i don't know what dist-upgrade is [14:49] I installed all the updates [14:50] kanliot: What the [14:50] are you on 12.04.1 or 12.10? [14:50] 12.04.1 [14:50] ok [14:50] but fully up to date now [14:50] run this script [14:52] /etc/cron.daily [14:52] /update-notifier-common [14:52] YOu mean /etc/cron.daily/update-notifier-common ? [14:52] i do [14:53] does it work on ubuntu? [14:53] it's possible i'm telling people the wrong cause of the bug [14:54] ok [14:54] ! [14:58] kanliot, [15:10] smartboyhw, i sent you a testemonial [15:10] now you have 1 [15:10] kanliot: lol lmao [15:10] and i also removed your icon from my gmail [15:10] so that's not buggin me anymore [15:10] HAHAHA [15:11] and what was so funny that i said in sii# [15:11] !? [15:11] did i accidentally make a joke? [15:11] :) [15:11] Yes you did [15:12] balloons: I don't think you finished your sentences about 20 lines above:) [15:12] kanliot: kidding joke here:) [15:12] mabye he had a heart attack [15:12] i'll call 911 [15:12] kanliot: NO NO NO [15:12] ;) [15:13] ............lol [15:13] although i have called the police on people [15:13] LOL [15:13] met a girl that was raped [15:13] kanliot: what? [15:13] LMAO now [15:13] emailed the police in nebraska or wereever and they interviewed her [15:13] yup [15:14] kanliot, [15:14] he survived the heart attafck [15:14] please get help man! [15:14] kanliot: LOL [15:14] OMG I [15:14] am full of LOL now [15:14] ;):):):):):O:O:O:O [15:15] ok [15:15] so it looks like it's acting the same on both lubuntu and ubuntu [15:15] man you should have been in #defocus sunday night [15:15] o rly [15:15] that makes me the most annoying bug tesyer on ubuntusphere [15:15] since i found it first [15:16] but i already knew that [15:16] lol [15:16] HAHAHA [15:16] in #defocus we were talking about asbestos for an half hour [15:16] it was epic [15:16] lol [15:17] ok, so I got it to work on ubuntu [15:17] :) [15:18] ok, and nothing on lubuntu [15:18] no pop-up [15:18] kanliot isn't crazy :-) [15:19] voices in my head can't agree w/ you [15:19] :) [15:20] you gonna use my testemonial? [15:21] HAHAHA [15:21] man i worked hard on that testmonial [15:22] it only took 15 sec0onds, but i still worked hard [15:38] will minitube be tested for Quantal ? [15:38] it is part of regular repository [15:39] i'm more worried about mplayer [15:39] i complained verbosely about gnome-mplayer on the mailing list [15:39] IMHO it's gonna ship with dialogs that lock up next month [15:40] * silverarrow googles verobosley? [15:40] lock up? [15:41] locks up every time [15:41] but they aare not gonna fix it [15:41] i can tell [15:41] can you explain ? it doesn`t at the moment [15:41] why next month? [15:41] open preferences [15:41] gnome-mplayer [15:42] there are all kinds of horrors with linux [15:42] next month the quantal sources go live for thousands of lubuntu users [15:42] and millions of ubuntu uysrs [15:42] i wonder how long it will take to get a million QQ usres? [15:43] maybe not until 2013 [15:43] i have no idea [15:43] hmm? qq already has billions of users [15:43] pretty much all of asia [15:44] that's mcdonalds [15:44] na, qq.com :) [15:44] i have heard that ubuntu is growing in india [15:45] but i doubt they are all testing the beta [15:45] people in china don't like ubuntu [15:46] they dont like anything thats free [15:46] in china? [15:46] would rather pay for stuff [15:46] yeah [15:46] debian then? [15:46] i hear that chinese people are making billions on billions selling anti-virus for winxp [15:46] I heard madriva is getting new winds in their sails again [15:47] lol [15:47] mageia [15:47] are you being silly? [15:47] cant tell [15:47] no, two french guys had a long interview on radio, [15:47] and are you that taoseeker guy [15:47] yes [15:48] or do we have 3 PPC users? [15:48] sorry, I am registered as silverarrow on freenode [15:48] my xchat is not behaving and logs in with my compters name [15:48] you have three [15:48] you are or aren't taoseeker [15:49] are, [15:49] are [15:49] k [15:49] unless there is another one using the same nick [15:49] I am only registered to silverarrow [15:49] if we don't relase ppc [15:49] will you buy a pc for lubuntu [15:49] ? [15:49] :) [15:49] well, I will jump to debian [15:50] yeah [15:50] that makes sense [15:50] and have ubuntu on my hp [15:50] you can use mplayer too [15:50] ROFL [15:50] is it that bad regarding ppc? [15:50] well [15:50] i know nothing about the yao---whatever that ppc grub thing is called [15:51] so i can only guess [15:51] but we are dropping non-uh what do you call the 4GB ram thing [15:51] PAO? i forget [15:51] and that's millions of people [15:52] dropping a hell of a lot of people in QQ [15:52] PAE [15:52] thump [15:52] thump [15:52] thud [15:52] that's the sound of us dropping them [15:53] last guy was a noob [15:53] how on earth did you manage to make 12.04 run at all? [15:53] on ppc at least [15:53] huh? [15:53] i donno [15:53] i thought it was ez [15:53] but i didn't do any work [15:53] so [15:54] which was very noticeable on the browser plugin packages [15:54] but the rest worked fine [15:54] well if you go to debian [15:54] i'll miss you man [15:54] QQ [15:54] is me crying [15:55] get it:? [15:55] not sure? lol === jacky is now known as jalcine [15:55] it looks like eyes with teardrops [15:55] depends on yer font i suppose [15:56] oh yes, of course [15:56] it would be sad to leave ubuntu [15:56] http://images4.cafepress.com/image/60760404_125x125.png [15:57] kanliot: are you the only one who manages certain parts of ubuntu ppc? [15:57] where did you get that idea [15:57] i have nothing to do with ppc [15:58] it looks like I have to change computer to see the link [15:58] or perhaps midori [15:58] no the image is broke [15:58] sorry [15:58] i broke internet [16:00] i just noticed unit192 isn't here to make us get back ontopic [16:00] i will miss him too [16:01] this is probably why so few bother with linux ppc [16:02] we are just not clever enough to put out a working os [16:02] one of many reasons [16:03] I didn`t know risk, sisk or whater was that difficult [16:03] RISC [16:03] yes, that one [16:03] lol [16:04] man i have a computer sitting here i bought to run ubuntu [16:04] and it doesnt [16:04] I might bump into you over at debian then? [16:04] lol [16:05] yeah [16:05] actually i bought it to run fedora [16:05] now that i think about it [16:05] Ubuntu was the first linux os I tried, [16:06] i had fedora for a while [16:06] short affair [16:06] what happend [16:06] and puppy linux [16:06] my hard drive failed, and when I got the new one, I installed latest ubuntu [16:07] but why will mplayer freeze up in a months time? [16:08] well on ubuntu QQ it locks up [16:08] very unfortunate [16:08] so everyone using QQ will find it lcoking up when they open preferences [16:08] what have you done with it? [16:08] i can only guess if the bug is fixed [16:08] i have locked it up [16:08] does that make me smart [16:08] ? [16:09] oddly enough, the video keeps playing [16:09] IMHO mplayer is more stable than gnome-mplayer [16:09] and i have a question [16:09] it doesn`t lock up in 12.04, I mean the 1.0.6 packages [16:09] i was playing mplayer over ssh -X [16:09] and it seemed to work really well [16:09] i don't think it's sending the pixels over ssh [16:10] i wonder if anyone knows for sure [16:10] i can harldy tell the difference between the mplayers [16:10] just don`t use the one with all the fuzz [16:10] do you know an alternative mplayer? [16:10] at least as default [16:10] smplayer [16:10] like gnome-mplayer [16:10] that uses qt [16:10] and the lubuntu devs don't like qt [16:10] regular mplayer [16:10] mplayer [16:10] mplayer2 [16:10] we're still trying to fit on a cd [16:10] all very confusing [16:11] naa not confusing [16:11] frustrating [16:11] and difficult [16:11] i could stare the bug in launchpad every day [16:11] and it would not fix it [16:12] i am gonna try and fix another lxpanel bug [16:12] I really liked gnome player, because it works with gecko media player [16:12] probably not this week thouh [16:12] but it never did that well on ppc [16:13] however, I have an odd situation with totem and gnome mplayer [16:13] which I have mentioned a few times now [16:13] yeah i solved the issue for this tao guy [16:13] but he left [16:13] can't find him [16:13] ;) [16:15] lol [16:15] you did? [16:15] i'm pulling your chain [16:16] I really hope you guys are clever enough to pussle together a ppc iso [16:17] i bet we could do it if we really wanted to [16:17] just go back a version of xorg [16:17] which would be great [16:18] so the new version is the problem? [16:18] i can only guess [16:19] is is graphics harddrives that doesn`t go well with it, or something not computing? [16:20] how are debian handeling it then? [16:20] is [16:20] good question [16:20] ubuntu is newer than debian, remember\ [16:20] stable debian [16:21] you should ask them [16:21] you might get a good answer [16:21] yes, but doesn`t queesy or what they call it use equivalents of quantal? [16:21] lol [16:21] queesy [16:21] wheezy? [16:21] why didn't we use that [16:21] wheezy [16:21] ROFL [16:21] sorry¨ [16:22] I am tired and my enlish is getting rather random [16:47] quantal sounds less asmatic than wheezy [16:47] more in the direction of latest science and james bond [16:48] * silverarrow wonders if there ever will be an iUbuntu [16:48] there was a cool debian poster on reddit a week ago [16:48] that "i" has sneaked its` way in many places [16:48] what did he write then? [16:52] http://claudiocomputing.wordpress.com/infographic-of-debian/ [16:53] kanliot: xfburn do not work if you want to know [16:53] brasero does [16:53] burns fine [16:54] don't have a burner on my 12.10 [16:54] xfburn crashes almost immediately [16:55] is this a ppc problem or a 12.10 problem [16:55] as long as there are working alternatives, but you sort of expect default setup to work [16:55] hmm, I shall come back to it [16:55] maybe both [16:56] I mean maybe general 12.10 [16:57] I will be able to tell more when beta 2 arrives hopefully [16:57] you only have ppc [16:58] assuming ppc is fixed for beta [16:58] 2 [16:58] well, I have a hp computer too [16:58] running 12.10? [16:59] I have set of 20 gb for it [16:59] does xfburn work on the hp? [17:00] it doesn`t behave all that good, but can burn [17:01] i have to admit, most of my efforts have gone into the G4 ppc [17:03] but you have loads of regular pc users? [17:03] testers I mean [17:03] naa [17:04] sort of inbetween yes and no.... [17:04] i think we have 5-15 people on lubuntu qa [17:05] and that's probably twice what kubuntu and xubuntu have [17:06] so lubuntu has become popular? [17:06] phillw and ballons are trying to do more formalized testing [17:06] i wish them luck [17:06] but mainly it's all about just spending time [17:06] hours testing [17:06] that's the only metric that matters [17:07] xubuntu is probably 2-10 times more popular than lubuntu [17:07] is it the lxde and software setup, or the ability to run on low specs? [17:07] and ubuntu is probably 2-10 times more popular than xubuntu [17:07] you can tell that i don't ahve good numnbers [17:08] yes, ubuntu is main version [17:08] I go for ubuntu too on a regular laptop [17:09] i suppose lubuntu is for the older computers [17:09] the ones you still can make use for [17:09] of* [17:10] the reason I have been a bit stubborn with the ibook is because it is silent and nice to write on [17:10] i chose lubuntu on my pc, coz i didn't like the other *buntus [17:10] simple choice [17:10] and my pc is new [17:10] I have done the same [17:10] if xubuntu hadn't been so buggy [17:11] had lubuntu on both my laptops [17:11] i assure you i'd be using it [17:11]