[01:14] <InHisName> I got a bunch of goofy stuff going on with ubuntu on my 'backup' machine that I thought of just wiping it out and installing 12.04 clean.
[01:17] <InHisName> I have /boot => /dev/sda5/,   /home => /dev/sda8/ ,   / => /dev/sda6/     I'd like to keep it the same but start cleanly.   How to do that. I have a 12.04 disk (ubuntu install)
[01:17] <InHisName> anyone awake or am I too late at night ?
[01:42] <MutantTurkey> I am
[01:43] <MutantTurkey> what's up?
[01:43] <MutantTurkey> so just reformat those partitions
[01:43] <MutantTurkey> but keep the sizes and such
[01:47] <waltman> Huh, how'd I get an $0.18 balance in my Amazon Payments account? I didn't even know I *had* an Amazon Payments account!
[01:49] <MutantTurkey> lol
[01:49] <MutantTurkey> I am gonna start doing mturk
[01:49] <MutantTurkey> maybe a refund?
[01:49] <InHisName> Is there a better way than booting LiveCD, reformat each of the 3 partitions.
[01:50] <waltman> MutantTurkey: maybe?
[01:50] <InHisName> Install 12.04 to /    ,    THEN boot live CD again and move the /home & /boot to 2nd & 3rd ones.     Is there a better way than that ?
[01:50] <MutantTurkey> no idea
[01:50] <MutantTurkey> InHisName: I mean just do it all during your 12.04 install
[01:51] <MutantTurkey> when installing use the partition option to do all your partitioning and set all your mount points then
[01:51] <InHisName> the install knows how to reformat and mount properly the tree partitions ?
[01:51] <InHisName> three
[02:02] <MutantTurkey> I think it has a dialog to do it
[02:02] <MutantTurkey> InHisName: dude go to #ubuntu
[02:02] <MutantTurkey> they rock
[09:30] <rmg51> Morning
[09:57] <JonathanD> Morning.
[09:57] <rmg51> o/
[11:19] <waltman> Morning
[11:23] <rmg51> Morning waltman
[11:23] <rmg51> off to work
[11:23] <waltman> Yo.
[11:24] <MutantTurkey> morning
[11:24] <waltman> gobble gobble
[11:29] <waltman> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19479013
[12:09] <InHisName> Interesting,  article says McD is only 2nd in food outlets world wide.  Subway is 1st.  WHEN did that happen?  I didn't know Subway was anyway that LARGE ?
[12:27] <waltman> 2010, according to wikipedia
[13:28] <InHisName> wow
[13:29] <InHisName> Do the canonical 12.04 disk ever have problems while still fresh and unscratched ?
[13:33] <InHisName> I got error on install  that my CD might be bad and I should make one at a slower speed. I did not make this one, canonical did.   The error was:  the installer crashed, and I had to power down to start over.
[13:37] <InHisName> I've rebooted 3x and each time the systems fonts are missing some chars.   www.linkedin.com/  looks like this www  i k di  co /     is this a symtom of a bad CD/DVD ?
[13:38] <rmg51> if in doubt try an alt cd
[13:39] <ChinnoDog> In my exeperience randomly failing CD install is a result of bad power supply or bad drive.
[13:39] <jedijf> wow
[13:39] <jedijf> start with the cd before hardware
[13:39] <ChinnoDog> obviously
[13:39] <jedijf> grim reaper
[13:39] <ChinnoDog> Just saying, there are other causes
[13:40] <ChinnoDog> Once it was a bad memory chip
[13:40] <ChinnoDog> Regardless of whether it is memory chip or power supply the memory test will fail
[13:40] <jedijf> InHisName: md5 test it and google how before you ask
[13:40] <ChinnoDog> If you don't have another CD you can just run memtest86 for 10 minutes
[13:41] <ChinnoDog> Checking CD takes too long. Just burn another one. :-p
[13:41] <jedijf> one release we had a whole bad batch from canonical
[13:43] <jedijf> lots of talk about dropping alt's from cd releases - i am too afraid to really look at thread though
[13:43]  * jedijf is an alt man
[13:44] <rmg51> that's what I use to upgrade
[13:44] <JonathanD> no more alt?
[13:44] <jedijf> that's the talk
[13:45] <JonathanD> :/
[13:45] <jedijf> maybe someone who actually reads it will comment
[13:45] <jedijf> i just browse
[13:47] <jedijf> JonathanD: remind me to give you a bundle of cd's to take to cposc
[13:49] <JonathanD> jedijf: saturday?
[13:59] <jedijf> JonathanD: yes
[13:59] <JonathanD> Will do.
[14:04] <jedijf> rmg51: you too - in case of failure
[14:35] <MutantTurkey> and now i have to debug matlab crap...
[14:35] <MutantTurkey> wahhh
[14:35] <MutantTurkey> waltman: have you done anytihng with Non-linear least squares?
[14:35] <MutantTurkey> because I have no idea and the wikipedia page is a bit thick
[14:36] <TheLordOfTime> MATLAB IS EVIL
[14:36] <TheLordOfTime> BURN MATLAB
[14:36] <TheLordOfTime> *yawn*
[14:37] <TheLordOfTime> i'm biased against proprietary software... :P
[14:37] <TheLordOfTime> anyways HI!
[14:37] <MutantTurkey> I hate it
[14:37] <MutantTurkey> it sucks
[14:37] <MutantTurkey> so badly
[14:38] <MutantTurkey> so so badly
[14:38] <InHisName> Well, seems Memtest86 identified a memory error.  Seems to be based on socket rather than the ram stick.
[14:39] <MutantTurkey> InHisName: just wondeirng, can you ignore bad memory?
[14:40] <InHisName> turkey asks a question then bails, hmmmm
[14:41] <TheLordOfTime> InHisName:  i guess the MoBo is fubar'd?
[14:41] <TheLordOfTime> if its saying the socket itself is having issues, well...
[14:42] <InHisName> Both sticks separately test well with memtest86 in right socket.  One of the sticks tests bad in left socket.  Now to test the other stick in 'bad' socket.
[14:42] <TheLordOfTime> watch it also test bad :P
[14:42] <TheLordOfTime> if that's the case, its the socket
[14:44] <InHisName> I suspect not the socket itself but some device connected to it but not connected to the good one.  Transistor / IC / what ever.
[14:49] <jedijf> blame ChinnoDog
[14:53] <ChinnoDog> You are blaming me for socket failure?
[14:54] <ChinnoDog> TheLordOfTime: Just exclude that memory range from kernel.
[14:54] <ChinnoDog> I had a WinXP box I ran for years like that. One of the chips went bad in that case.
[14:55] <ChinnoDog> Windows memory exclusion not as flexible as Linux kernel though. I was lucky that the bad chip was at the top of the memory range.
[15:07] <InHisName> Memory address  0000DDD1cc4  with a few bits in the D's section being bad.
[15:08] <InHisName> So ChinnoDog, how to exclude as little as possible ?
[15:08] <ChinnoDog> Only one address? That seems unlikely
[15:09] <ChinnoDog> I would expect a range of addresses. Usually the problem is a result of broken address lines
[15:09] <InHisName> actually I rapped on MB with plastic handled screwdriver a buncha times and now got only 3 errors instead of dozens.
[15:10] <ChinnoDog> lol
[15:10] <ChinnoDog> Are you going to do that every time the computer crashes?
[15:10] <jedijf> that doesn't seem like a good plan
[15:11] <jedijf> unless you're the Fonz
[15:12] <InHisName> The DDDs are 2f6, 3f6, 272    now three more popped up in test#6.  Now up to 75 errors
[15:13] <InHisName> or on an extremely tight budget
[15:20] <ChinnoDog> Are they all isolated to one memory chip?
[15:28] <InHisName> not sure
[15:29] <InHisName> oh, wait, The memory passes fine in the right socket.  Has a few fails in left socket.
[15:32] <InHisName> Here is mem address pattern   0000+ 5th is either 2 or 3,  6th is any num, 7th is any even (i think) then +1cc4
[15:33] <InHisName> this is failing bit    00008000   <- that one seems to be stuck at zero
[15:54] <ChinnoDog> Your calculation is mising a bit
[15:55] <ChinnoDog> There should be an even number of bits
[15:55] <ChinnoDog> 0000 ???? 1cc4
[17:12] <InHisName> What is EDD mean ?   Line from booting up:   EDD: Error 1000 reading sector 358216
[17:13] <InHisName> not really bits   hex bytes for each char
[17:16] <ChinnoDog> http://askubuntu.com/questions/92631/installation-problem-bootlogo
[17:16] <ChinnoDog> That error is meaningless if you haven't fixed the memory problem.
[17:17] <InHisName> Trying to boot from CD.   With only one stick in good slot.
[17:17] <InHisName> EDD = Enhanced Disk Drive - pgm to boot beyond 8GB
[17:18] <InHisName> Seems like it might be trying to boot from Hard drive and not CD.
[18:14] <Samuraialba> Good bacon to all and to all some good bacon!
[18:29] <InHisName> Hi Samuraialba!  having a bacon good time ?
[18:30] <InHisName> When I boot up, the CD seems to not boot.  I keep getting grub 1.99 with all my hard disk options.  I went into setup and removed the hard disk from things to boot from.   it SITLL boots from it.    WHAT is going on ?
[18:48] <Samuraialba> Not sure
[18:54] <InHisName> have some bacon, you tried to answer, thanks, Samuraialba
[18:56] <Sadin> :3 got my first paycheck today
[18:56] <Sadin> not under the table or temp sumer job either :D
[18:57] <ChinnoDog> What job are you getting paid to do?
[18:57] <Sadin> Just McDonalds :/
[18:57] <Sadin> but hey its money
[18:57] <Sadin> itll help me pay insurance on my first car :D
[19:08] <Samuraialba> Or...
[19:08] <Samuraialba> a Server
[19:08] <ChinnoDog> Money is money.
[19:08] <Samuraialba> :)
[19:09] <ChinnoDog> Or just get a free server
[19:09] <Sadin> Samurailba lol I still need one!
[19:09] <Sadin> ChinnoDog lol if you can tell me how to get a free one pleaseeee do
[19:09] <ChinnoDog> Joe_CoT posted a link on fb for one recently
[19:11] <Joe_CoT> i did. http://chunkhost.com/r/joecot
[19:11] <Joe_CoT> it's a free 128mb one
[19:11] <Joe_CoT> but they're in a waiting queue at the moment I think.
[19:12] <Joe_CoT> There's also Amazon EC2. A free micro instance for a year
[19:12] <Sadin> Joe_CoT so this is a Free VPS?
[19:13] <Joe_CoT> yes
[19:13] <Sadin> Joe_CoT im getting an error signing up with facebook
[19:13] <Joe_CoT> no idea
[19:14] <Joe_CoT> your other option is http://aws.amazon.com/free/
[19:14] <Joe_CoT> free micro instance for a year
[19:15] <Sadin> ehhh
[19:15] <Joe_CoT> what are you looking for?
[19:16] <ChinnoDog> Free isn't good enough for Sadin. Must be looking for 16 cores and 8gb of memory.
[19:16] <Sadin> ChinnoDog nooo
[19:16] <Sadin> I just havent really ever liked amazon
[19:17] <Sadin> If i can get this service to work id rather use it
[19:17] <ChinnoDog> I thought the choice was no server or free server
[19:18] <Joe_CoT> Sadin, chunkhost started their free offering yesterday and have been swamped. I would hold on to the link and try it in a couple days
[19:18] <ChinnoDog> 1 server > 0 servers
[19:18] <Joe_CoT> the chunkhost is 128mb and free forever. the amazon one is 600 something and free for a year
[19:18] <Sadin> ChinnoDog i have a vps i share with some one else but he wont let me instal ruby or node on it so im looking to start paying for my own now that i have a job
[19:19] <Joe_CoT> but whether the chunkhost one will ever actually be delivered is an unknown
[19:19] <Sadin> Joe_CoT i see
[19:19] <Sadin> i signed up for the free amazon one
[19:19] <Joe_CoT> just make sure to use a 10gb ebs image
[19:19] <Sadin> alright
[19:19] <Joe_CoT> if you use the 15gb one you'll be 5gb over the free tier. so 50 cents a month
[19:20] <ChinnoDog> hmm. Someone who knows more about Linux than me... can Sadin install web server/software of choice without admin privilages? Maybe in chroot environment?
[19:21] <ChinnoDog> oh, but with only one IP it would not be able to run on port 80
[19:21]  * ChinnoDog ponders
[19:21] <Sadin> ChinnoDog if i want to continue to be able to use his server for free until i get my own, i need to abide by his rules so even if i could
[19:21] <Joe_CoT> ChinnoDog, you need admin to do chroot
[19:22] <Joe_CoT> yes he could install a web server, it couldn't bind to a reserved port. it'd have to run on like 8080 or something
[19:22] <Joe_CoT> it couldn't be on a port less than 1000 or something (I don't remember when the reserved range ends)
[19:23] <pleia2> 1024
[19:23] <Joe_CoT> pleia2++
[19:23] <TheLordOfTime> doesnt reserved end at about 1024?
[19:23] <TheLordOfTime> damn it ninja'd
[19:23] <TheLordOfTime> now i'm annoyed
[19:23] <Joe_CoT> 1000? 1024? close enough
[19:24] <Joe_CoT> TheLordOfTime, it's ok, you still have control over time and stuff
[19:24] <TheLordOfTime> :P
[19:35] <ChinnoDog> TheLordOfTime: go into the future and fetch us a copy of Zany Zebra
[19:44] <TheLordOfTime> give me $12000000 and i'll consider it
[20:28] <ChinnoDog> Can I deposit a few bucks in a bank account now and you recieve payment when you pick Zany?
[20:30] <TheLordOfTime> you'd need to put 6mil in minimum
[20:34] <ChinnoDog> You mean this isn't like the restaurant at the end of the universe?
[21:05] <InHisName> The CD drive was disabled, So fixed it active and hdd disabled.  Now boots CD.  Installed 12.04 in 35 minutes with only 1GB memory.
[21:07] <InHisName> Joe_CoT: what is chuck host ?   storage only or ???
[21:07] <Joe_CoT> InHisName, Chunkhost. VPS
[21:07] <InHisName> virtual power supply?
[21:08] <Joe_CoT> Virtual Private Server. they're doing a free VPS in a referral pyramid scheme (you get 128mb vps, 64 mb more per person you refer), but the second they went live they got flooded with requests, so their free servers are currently on a waiting list
[21:08] <Joe_CoT> and some people are having problems logging in with facebook to redeem the free server
[21:10] <jedijf> go linode or go home
[21:10] <InHisName> I can wait a while. Lotta irons in fire at moment.