[00:00] <wellwhy> well I have copied and pasted but when I do it that way it doesnt work
[00:00] <Noobuntu> and this one is still in beta - so I really don't know
[00:00] <wellwhy> I just want to apply my google + theme..
[00:00] <wellwhy> Its so annoying
[00:02] <Noobuntu> http://askubuntu.com/questions/75530/how-to-install-gnome-shell-extensions
[00:02] <heath> Hey, I have an Asus ralink wireless pci card. Are there drivers for this?
[00:03] <Kamilion|2> heath: more than likely. What's the ralink chip ID?
[00:03] <heath> How do I find that out?
[00:03] <Kamilion|2> lspci would probably help. :)
[00:04] <heath> I have that up
[00:04] <heath> 5592?
[00:04] <extropy> it's always lspci ;)
[00:04] <Kamilion|2> heath: looks like it works with the ralink 2860 series driver?
[00:05] <heath> how did you find that out so quick? I googled for a while
[00:05] <Kamilion|2> heath: I read at many times the rate of the average human.
[00:06] <GunArm> Kamilion|2: i didn't see what you said in time, and taskkilled 'tasksel' which left locks on files and stuff, so I rebooted the server and ran 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' which set up php5 libhtml apache mysql and a few other packages, I went back into tasksel and it showed lampp checked (installed), should I feel reasonably secure that the setup is done?
[00:06] <heath> Kamilion|2, is there an apt-get install for that?
[00:06] <Kamilion|2> heath: also looks like RT73 might support it in kernel 3.2+
[00:06] <wellwhy> Noobuntu, I still cant open Gnome-Tweak-Shell
[00:06] <Kamilion|2> heath: could be you're lacking firmware?
[00:07] <wellwhy> Well It has happened but nothing has changed
[00:07] <wellwhy> it still is the same
[00:07] <Noobuntu> wellwhy : I haven't tried it on Precise yet, I will let you know if I am able to , give me ur email id
[00:08] <jarray52> I'm having trouble with the microphone in Skype on Ubuntu 10.04. There's a lot of conflicting advice when I run a Google search. Is it best to disable pulseaudio?
[00:08] <wellwhy> you mean, just my email? Or some kind of id?
[00:08] <Noobuntu> ur email
[00:08] <Noobuntu> jarray52: don't use Skype -its evil
[00:08] <heath> Kamilion|2, what do you mean lacking firmware?
[00:09] <jarray52> Noobuntu: Interviewer wants to call on Skype. I don't have much choice.
[00:09] <Kamilion|2> heath: you may need a firmware image for the device, if it doesn't include a flash chip on the board itself. Ralink's notoriously cheap.
[00:10] <Kamilion|2> heath: many wireless adapters have removed their flash chips and require their firmware to be loaded by the drivers interacting with them
[00:10] <Noobuntu> jarray52: hmm..really sorry - Skype is one bad piece of software, especially on Linux
[00:11] <Kamilion|2> jarray52: the problem is likely not with pulseaudio, but with the ALSA drivers for your card.
[00:12] <jarray52> Kamilion|2: What's the workaround for this problem?
[00:12] <Kamilion|2> jarray52: try updating to the latest skype beta that has direct pulseaudio support (versus skype 2.x for linux using pulseaudio's ALSA passthrough/emulation/whateveritis
[00:12] <heath> Kamilion|2, so is there no super easy install for this?
[00:13] <Kamilion|2> heath: *shrug* I have no experience with that paticular model; only general experience with Ralinks.
[00:13] <heath> is there no easy was with ralinks?
[00:15] <Kamilion|2> heath: Most of the older ones I have 'just work' now. (that was not always the case)
[00:15] <jarray52> Kamilion|2: I have skype version 4.0.0.8
[00:15] <Kamilion|2> jarray52: then removing pulseaudio is only going to make things worse, as I've heard skype 4.x no longer has direct support for ALSA, but uses libpulse instead.
[00:16] <blackshirt> skype works bad on linux
[00:16] <Kamilion|2> no -- skype just plain works bad.
[00:16] <Kamilion|2> What do you expect from Microsoft software? Reliability?
[00:16] <blackshirt> :d
[00:18] <Kamilion|2> jarray52: anyway -- there this thing, I've heard of it but never seen one... they called it a 'tele phone'... some weird thing you plug into the wall. Archaic, I know, but perhaps you might consider tracking one down to deal with your interviewer :3
[00:25] <usr13> Skype works.  I use it for my home phone.
[00:27]  * Kamilion|2 shrugs
[00:27] <Kamilion|2> I find that the Android version of Skype works the best.
[00:29] <blackshirt> thats sound greats
[00:33] <XiaolinDraconis> askubuntu.com/questions/186730/chromium-quicklist-profiles-not-working-any-ideas
[00:37] <OerHeks> XiaolinDraconis, i think you need chmod to make it executable > sudo chmod +x <filename>
[00:38] <client_alive> hey, just a curious thing - is there any way to open a new tab and cd to a location but from the command line? Using lxterminal. I know about ^t and how to do from the gui of that terminal but I wonder if there is a command I can issue that will open a new tab.
[00:40] <histo1> client_alive: you have ctrl+altF1-F6 as ttys  is that what you mean?
[00:41] <histo1> client_alive: if you want tabs in a tty or split screen I would install screen and use that.
[00:41] <client_alive> histo1: not exactly. what I was wondering is if there is a command I can type on the comand line that will open a new tab
[00:41] <histo> client_alive: in what?
[00:41] <OerHeks> it used to be: gnome-terminal --tab (for a new tab)
[00:42] <histo> client_alive: are you actually in a tty or in a terminal?
[00:42] <client_alive> well, right now I'm using lxterminal but could use a different terminal
[00:42] <client_alive> in lxterminal
[00:42] <OerHeks> try lxterminal --tab ?
[00:42] <histo> client_alive: try lxterminal --tab   or man lxterminal may show the option to open a new tab. Ctrl+t will do it too
[00:43] <histo> client_alive: sorry maybe ctrl+shift+t for that keyboard shortcut
[00:44] <AcidPoison> hello
[00:44] <client_alive> from the lxterminal man page the thing looks pretty skimpy (only about 4 options you can use with it).
[00:44] <client_alive> lxterminal --t or lxterminal --tab do nothing but bring up the help page
[00:46] <tiglionabbit> What do I need to install so vlc can encode mp4v?
[00:46] <Kamilion|2> ClientAlive: apt-get install gnome-terminal?
[00:46] <client_alive> histo: prolly I'd have to use a different terminal that's more complete. The reason it seemed desireable was if you string more then one command with that. Say, for instance you want to cd to a directory and open a file in nano all in another tab. So you write out a command on the command line of the tab you are in and poof! there it ALL is.
[00:46] <Kamilion|2> ClientAlive: they're both libvte based, so there's not much difference
[00:46] <tiglionabbit> I'm trying to encode mp4v but it says "cannot find video encoder (module:any fourcc:mp4v)"
[00:47] <bazhang> tiglionabbit, get handbrake
[00:47] <bazhang> !handbrake | tiglionabbit
[00:47] <client_alive> Kamilion|2: I see
[00:47] <client_alive> well I'll check around, thx for the input
[00:49] <tiglionabbit> bazhang, no it has to be vlc
[00:49] <bazhang> tiglionabbit, why
[00:50] <tiglionabbit> bazhang, has to be streaming
[00:50] <zykotick9> tiglionabbit: you believe you can stream (and encode at the same time) to mp4, good luck with that.
[00:51] <tiglionabbit> zykotick9, no, I'm streaming it into an asf container :P
[00:51] <histo> client_alive: I would look into screen   it's a wonderfull app that can do what you want and much more.
[00:51] <tiglionabbit> actually, what I really want is msmpeg4v3
[00:51] <blackshirt> i don't know what is mp4v is?
[00:52] <bazhang> http://wiki.videolan.org/MPEG-4 check the example tiglionabbit
[00:52] <client_alive> histo: I thought screen was a window manager (as in - effected the entire system). No?
[00:52] <tiglionabbit> I'm doing that but the mp4v encoder isn't found for some reason
[00:53] <tiglionabbit> I think my setup is screwed up somehow
[00:53] <zykotick9> client_alive: lol, i would say screen is my favourite "window manager" but the WM i'm using is awesome.  (screen is for terminal programs)
[00:53] <blackshirt> lol
[00:54] <client_alive> zykotick9: right on. If I'd known that I would have gotten it long before. I looked at it once on wikipedia but must have misunderstood what it is.  thx   :)
[00:54] <zykotick9> client_alive: screen is amazing!!!
[00:54] <client_alive> sounds like it
[00:56] <rds> hai guys , what is this operator  called (->) ??
[00:56] <GunArm> is it possible to alias apt-get to apt-get -y ?
[00:56] <dr_willis> Which operator? :)  you  the >   ?
[00:56] <dr_willis> GunArm:  yes..
[00:56] <dr_willis> GunArm:  but may notbe a good idea.
[00:56] <blackshirt> i think yes
[00:56] <rds> dr_willis,  -> in php ?
[00:56] <GunArm> but you have to type sudo infront so alias doesnt work, and you cant do alias 'sudo apt-get'='sudo apt-get -y'
[00:57] <tiglionabbit> GunArm, of course
[00:57] <zykotick9> dr_willis: s/but may not/is not/
[00:57] <rds> dr_willis,  (->) in php ?
[00:57] <dr_willis> rds:  i dont do php. i suggest finding a php guide.
[00:58] <blackshirt> rds, what you mean?
[00:58] <GunArm> tiglionabbit: how?
[00:58] <redwarriors25> any1 here
[00:59] <blackshirt> yes
[00:59] <rds> blackshirt, i found this "->" operator  while learning php !
[00:59] <rds> blackshirt,  what is it called ?
[00:59] <tiglionabbit> GunArm, doesn't this work?  alias apt-get="apt-get -y"
[00:59] <sambagirl> can someone tell me how the hell to get a shell in 11.04? i am so sorry i installed this upgrade....grr cant even figure out where to find a shell!
[00:59] <redwarriors25> sir i have a problem in my ubuntu ican t log in as a superuser always permission denied
[00:59] <bazhang> redwarriors25, use sudo
[01:00] <redwarriors25> sudo then
[01:00] <usr13> !sudo | redwarriors25
[01:00] <bazhang> redwarriors25, there is NO need to login as root
[01:00] <blackshirt> rds, that for array/object dereferncing
[01:00] <sambagirl> WHERE DO YOU GO TO GET A SHELL IN 11.04?
[01:00] <redwarriors25> but i cant access some of the folders if im not in su root
[01:00] <rds> blackshirt, what is it called like "!"  for not
[01:00] <bazhang> sambagirl, lose the caps
[01:00] <usr13> sambagirl: Ctrl-Alt-t
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> redwarriors25, sudo su
[01:01] <bazhang> tiglionabbit, thats wrong
[01:01] <blackshirt> sambagirl, search for gnome-terminal
[01:01] <sambagirl> before i could add it to my panel
[01:01] <blackshirt> Rds, yes
[01:01] <redwarriors25> but the problem i didnt know the password
[01:01] <tiglionabbit> bazhang, why?
[01:01] <bazhang> tiglionabbit, there is no root account enabled. use sudo
[01:01] <usr13> redwarriors25: So you have lost your user password?
[01:01] <redwarriors25> any 1 also guys support here in debian
[01:02] <bazhang> #debian redwarriors25 NOT here
[01:02] <redwarriors25> nope im just didint know
[01:02] <redwarriors25> ok baz
[01:02] <redwarriors25> how cn i enable the root account
[01:02] <usr13> redwarriors25:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LostPassword
[01:02] <bazhang> redwarriors25, you dont
[01:03] <bazhang> redwarriors25, use sudo
[01:04] <sambagirl> maybe i will go back to ubuntu hoary or run http://plan9.bell-labs.com/plan9/ it's easier to work with...
[01:04] <usr13> sambagirl: whatsamatter?
[01:05] <blackshirt> why
[01:05] <usr13> sambagirl: What's so hard about Ctrl-ALt-t  ?
[01:06] <Nisstyre> sambagirl: you think plan9 is easier to work with?
[01:06] <sambagirl> usr13 why should i have to use 3 fingers when i can just press an icon on my panel?
[01:06] <usr13> sambagirl: You can if you want to.
[01:06] <blackshirt> sambagirl, you can drop it to panel
[01:06] <usr13> sambagirl: Are you using unity?
[01:07] <sambagirl> usr13 why can't i have my sticky notes on my panel? have my weather on my panel? have system monitor on my panel? have my rolling eyes on my panel? understand?
[01:07] <sambagirl> usr13 if looks more like tragedy
[01:08] <sambagirl> is 10.04 still supported?
[01:08] <usr13> Yea, well, maybe you would like a different Desktop Environment?  Try xfce4 ?
[01:08] <bazhang> !notunity | sambagirl
[01:08] <usr13> sambagirl: yes
[01:08] <simo_n> hi guys , just moved thhe wubi install with bcbc script and instruction from the forum, the old used partirion still not empy , what i should do with it ? i created new partitions when i moved it
[01:09] <bazhang> simo_n, was the move successful?
[01:09] <simo_n> yes
[01:09] <sambagirl> i actually located a way to load all kinds of different desktop managers
[01:09] <usr13> sambagirl: Take a look at http://xubuntu.org/   Maybe that would be more to your liking.
[01:09] <sambagirl> i'm going to play with them
[01:09] <usr13> sambagirl: if so, just do  sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:09] <simo_n> i updated it and updated the grub
[01:09] <cornell> Good evening all
[01:09] <bazhang> simo_n, so use gparted live cd for the other partition, either for storage, or resize existing
[01:09] <Jak_Atackka> Okay, I am having an extremely frustrating bug. My computer is crashing upwards of 20 times per day, and I suspect it's the video driver
[01:10] <sambagirl> well i have tried pinguyos snowlinux puppy debian commodore os vision (awesome), elive, you name it.
[01:10] <sambagirl> mandrake all kinds
[01:10] <Jak_Atackka> I'm using Intel HD Graphics 4000
[01:10] <sambagirl> slackware i'm experienced
[01:10] <simo_n> bazhang i want to verify before to delete the old parttion , how i can plz ?
[01:10] <usr13> Jak_Atackka: Tell me more.
[01:10] <bazhang> simo_n, verify the new wubi move?
[01:11] <Jak_Atackka> usr13: Well, that's about it. It frequently freezes. It crashes not just the video, but the entire computer as well, as indicated by the complete lack of RAM activity once the video freezes
[01:11] <simo_n> verify if everything is alright and ubuntu is loadiing from the new partitions
[01:11] <bazhang> simo_n, boot into it
[01:11] <simo_n> im in it now
[01:11] <simo_n> :)
[01:11] <usr13> Jak_Atackka: memtest
[01:11] <Jak_Atackka> usr13: Already have. Came back spotless
[01:11] <cornell> I've a laptop with Ubuntu 12.4 on it.  I'm looking to use XFCE instead of Unity(?).  Found a site that says to apt-get update/apt-get install xfce4.  Then it says "log out and change your session to XFCE".  I've logged out and back in... but I don't see how to change my session.  Any help?
[01:12] <bazhang> simo_n, so what did you need to test exactly
[01:12] <simo_n> any command to see the whole things ?
[01:12] <Jak_Atackka> usr13: I'm running Intel HD Graphics 4000 (which is integrated into the processor), if that helps
[01:12] <simo_n> partitions in which is ubntu residing
[01:12] <usr13> Jak_Atackka: Most total system lockups are due to bad RAM.
[01:12] <bazhang> simo_n, the command sudo fdisk -l
[01:12] <ox1de> one thing I would like to express to the ubuntu programmers is that ubuntu should include better music visualizer software
[01:13] <usr13> Jak_Atackka: Try another video card.
[01:13] <Jak_Atackka> usr13: I'm dual-booting Windows 7, and I have zero freezeups
[01:13] <ox1de> visualizers are my favorite software so please make the upgrade
[01:13] <bazhang> ox1de, suggest it on brainstorm
[01:13] <Jak_Atackka> usr13: I don't have any other video cards
[01:13] <ox1de> is that a channel?
[01:13] <bazhang> !brainstorm | ox1de
[01:13] <usr13> Jak_Atackka: buy one
[01:13] <sambagirl> can you install multiple desktop managers and then choose which one you want to at any given time ?
[01:13] <Jak_Atackka> usr13: No s***.
[01:13] <bazhang> sambagirl, of course
[01:13] <simo_n> bazhang may i post the results here ?
[01:13] <Jak_Atackka> usr13: I have no money, and won't for many months. Buying a video card isn't an option
[01:13] <cornell> How bazhang?
[01:14] <usr13> Jak_Atackka: I've got a neighbor that has a whole box full.  I should give you his phone number ;)
[01:14] <dr_willis> sambagirl:  yes. thats a rather trivial thing. ;)
[01:14] <bazhang> simo_n, at paste.ubuntu.com and give us the url
[01:14] <simo_n> super
[01:14] <Jak_Atackka> usr13: I live in the middle of the wilderness.
[01:14] <bazhang> cornell, the different DE/wm?
[01:15] <usr13> Jak_Atackka: I'm in a rural area too.  (My friend gets his hardware from a salvage yard.)
[01:15] <simo_n> service not loainf
[01:15] <cornell> I'm trying to use XFCE on my Ubuntu 12.  I've installed, but don't know how to switch to it, bazhang
[01:15] <sambagirl> i would not consider it trivial at all. that should be an option that new users "not me ofcourse" but new people unexperienced with unix/linux would have as an installation option and there should be a sample during installation that they can experience to better make a initial decision.
[01:15] <simo_n> loading
[01:15] <Jak_Atackka> usr13: No salvage yards within 50 miles
[01:16] <bazhang> usr13, lets rule out buy new hardware as a support advice please
[01:16] <usr13> Jak_Atackka: ebay
[01:16] <bazhang> usr13, please
[01:16] <Jak_Atackka> usrr13: What bazhang said
[01:16] <usr13> bazhang: Ok.  Your turn.
[01:17] <usr13> Jak_Atackka: bizhang is taking over.  Thank you bizhang.
[01:17] <bazhang> !behelpful | usr13
[01:17] <Jak_Atackka> Well, then. bazhang, I'm getting frequent system freezes, and I'm certain that it's my video card
[01:17] <bazhang> cornell, at the login window
[01:18] <usr13> bazhang: I know the guidelines.
[01:18] <Jak_Atackka> bazhang, well, 99% certain
[01:18] <bazhang> Jak_Atackka, what card and what driver
[01:18] <Jak_Atackka> bazhang, Intel HD Graphics 4000, and whatever driver came bundled with the OS
[01:18] <simo_n> bazhang paste.ubuntu.com dooesnt load, need a reboot maybe :)
[01:19] <bazhang> Jak_Atackka, does additional drivers offer any?
[01:19] <sambagirl> everytime i try to install looking glass core it cant locate it
[01:19] <Jak_Atackka> bazhang, there are no additional drivers. Driver support for the Intel HD 4000 is very sparse
[01:19] <bazhang> sambagirl, install from where
[01:20] <Jak_Atackka> Ah crap, I have to go
[01:20] <sambagirl> your right i forgot to add the list
[01:20] <sambagirl> sorry
[01:20] <bazhang> sambagirl, the repo?
[01:20] <marshall> hey ubuntu
[01:20] <cornell> Ah, thanks bazhang.  I'd looked about before, didn't find it.  Right (or was it left) clicking on the icon in the upper right of the box with my userid and password request gets me the list.
[01:22] <cornell> Just to confirm my understanding... XFCE and Gnome are GUI systems, window managers(?).  The underlying filesystem, installed software, etc. remains and is available (easy or difficult) from either.  Correct?
[01:22] <bazhang> cornell, DE (desktop environments)
[01:22] <marshall> i would like to ssh into my server without having to type my password, but I've added my id_rsa.pub to my account's authorized keys on the server and I still have to type my password. why?
[01:23] <Daekdroom> cornell, they are desktop environments, and yes, the underlying filesystem and software is available from either.
[01:23] <sambagirl> enlightenment has no installation candidate...
[01:23] <bazhang> sambagirl, e17?
[01:23] <Daekdroom> sambagirl, e16 or e17
[01:23] <cornell> Thank you bazhang and Daekdroom.  XFCE doesn't wake up that pretty... but it makes sense... it's got menus !
[01:24] <sambagirl> nnot sure i am going to try e17
[01:24] <bazhang> !info e17 | sambagirl
[01:24] <sambagirl> i cant load sun's looking glass it cant befound anymore
[01:24] <sambagirl> ahh ok
[01:24] <sambagirl> how can i get to gnome 2?
[01:24] <cornell> May I ask for enlightenment...  What's the difference between a desktop environment and window manager?
[01:24] <hashem> sambagirl, check out mate
[01:25] <dr_willis> Gnome fallback mode is avail in the newest releases.. gnom,e2 is basically dead
[01:25] <sambagirl> ok
[01:25] <hashem> cornell, window manager deals with the layout of application windows on the screen
[01:25] <dr_willis> cornell:  a window maanger is a specific part of a desktop.
[01:25] <simo_n> i think the past server is down
[01:25] <cornell> k, that makes sense, thanks hashem and dr_willis
[01:25] <sambagirl> there are so many different managers i'm taking my time.
[01:25] <hashem> cornell, desktop environment often includes a window manager, but also includes commonly used applications, a common visual theme, etc
[01:25] <dr_willis> desktop = a window manager + iconmanager/launcher + file manager (normally)
[01:25] <sambagirl> thanks
[01:25] <cornell> BBIAB
[01:25] <zykotick9> cornell: DEs all have/use WMs ;)  DEs are just additional/bloat stuff.
[01:25] <bazhang> !notunity | sambagirl please have a read
[01:26] <bazhang> sambagirl, install gnome-panel
[01:26] <hashem> cornell, what's BBIAB?
[01:26] <cornell> Be Back In A Bit
[01:26] <bazhang> hashem, back in a bit
[01:26] <dr_willis> sambagirl:  what used to be the defacto site for window managers/desktops ->  http://xwinman.org/
[01:26] <dr_willis> some VERY old ones listed there. ;)
[01:27] <simo_n> bazhang i tried sudo fdisk -l | pastebinit 5 minutes ago and still waiting
[01:27] <hashem> dr_willis, is that site not updated anymore?
[01:27] <dr_willis> hashem:  no idea.
[01:27] <bazhang> simo_n, did you install pastebinit ?
[01:27] <simo_n> yes
[01:27] <dr_willis> Copyright ©1995-2012 to Matt Chapman - All Rights Reserved
[01:27] <dr_willis>  been updated with the copyright at least. ;)
[01:28] <bazhang> simo_n, then just go directly to paste.ubuntu.com and paste it there
[01:28] <simo_n> i tried
[01:28] <simo_n> not loading
[01:28] <hashem> I like the arch wiki site on window managers https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Window_Manager
[01:28] <simo_n> plz check from ur side
[01:28] <dr_willis> !find ude
[01:29] <dr_willis> whats scary - i rember trying out most of these old window managers in the past. ;)
[01:29] <bazhang> http://pastebin.com/   try there simo_n
[01:29] <dr_willis> night all
[01:29] <zykotick9> dr_willis: did you see the retro-news that CDE was opensourced recently?  to little/to late ;)
[01:29] <wellwhy_> Can anybody help with a Gnome Shell problem?
[01:30] <bazhang> wellwhy_, whats the issue
[01:30] <wellwhy_> Well, I am unable to apply a theme to my gnome shell, to be very simple.
[01:30] <simo_n> bazhang http://pastebin.com/NLka8HSM
[01:31] <astropirate> I installed xmonad and then restarted. but now I am not able to log into my user account... with any DM.  I am on my guest account right now with Unity. I am running ubuntu 12.04. any advice?
[01:31] <eamon> how do I install the latest gcc?
[01:31] <bazhang> eamon, why do you need it
[01:33] <sambagirl> well i must apologize. i am very very pleased with the new ubuntu :D. it was painless to change back to the classic gnome2 interface and functionality salut!
[01:33] <wellwhy_> bazhang, I am unable to apply a theme to my Gnome shell using Gnome Tweak Tool
[01:34] <wellwhy_> I have User Theme Extensions downloaded and turned on, and sometimes it wont run. I also have the theme section greyed out for any work to be done
[01:34] <bazhang> wellwhy_, got a link for the theme?
[01:34] <wellwhy_> Sure do
[01:34] <eamon> bazhang, to compile computer pragrams
[01:34] <bazhang> eamon, Yes I know. why do you need the LATEST
[01:35] <wellwhy_> http://browse.deviantart.com/?qh=&section=&q=google+plus+gnome#/d52alhm
[01:35] <wellwhy_> is the theme
[01:37] <Noobuntu> wellwhy_: i have replied to you how to install user themes
[01:37] <eamon> bazhang: because the older versions won't do
[01:37] <astropirate> I am loged into the guest account. how can i  su  into my normal account to fix login issues?
[01:37] <wellwhy_> Alright I will check it
[01:37] <bazhang> eamon, why is that
[01:37] <wellwhy_> I havent gotten it, it was sent by email correct?
[01:37] <Noobuntu> i have send a private message on ur other account "wellwhy" without the underscore
[01:38] <Guest48370> Does Lightread have a version out for 12.10B1?
[01:38] <wellwhy_> ah this underscore was not meant to be here
[01:38] <wellwhy_> one second ill relog
[01:38] <bazhang> Guest48370, 12.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[01:38] <simo_n> bazhang http://pastebin.com/NLka8HSM
[01:39] <wellwhy_> It seems I cant remove this underscore
[01:39] <wellwhy_> send the message to this one instead
[01:40] <Noobuntu> run this command in terminal sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/gnome3
[01:40] <astropirate> I installed xmonad and then restarted. Now i can't log inot my user account. I'm loged in as guest. How can i fix this?
[01:40] <Noobuntu> install synaptic package manager
[01:41] <Noobuntu> from synaptic install gnome-shell-extensions and gnome-shell-extensions-common
[01:41] <Noobuntu> then install user themes from extensions.gnome.org
[01:41] <zykotick9> astropirate: have you user use sudo with a gui program by chance?
[01:41] <Noobuntu> you should be then able to customize user themes
[01:41] <Noobuntu> worked for me
[01:41] <wellwhy_> I have done all of that already but it still has the theme greyed out
[01:41] <wellwhy_> are you using ubuntu 12.04?
[01:42] <eamon> bazhang: because they have regressions which affect my work and a lack of standards complience
[01:42] <zykotick9> astropirate: s/have you user/have you ever/
[01:42] <Noobuntu> check the packages from within synaptic - you may have some conflicts
[01:42] <xrfang> I am using siege to do some load testing and got "cannot allocate address" (too many socket in TIME_WAIT) error while test against a simple hello world server written in Go, but the same error does not occure while test against nginx+phpfpm, I wonder why is this?
[01:42] <astropirate> zykotick9, have I ever used sudo with a gui program?  sure
[01:42] <astropirate> but not since installing xmonad
[01:43] <wellwhy_> I cant tell what was a command and what wasnt noobuntu
[01:43] <zykotick9> astropirate: literally sudo?  using sudo with GUI programs can break your account (so you can't login) - ALWAYS use gksudo for GUI apps.
[01:43] <Noobuntu> command: "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:webupd8team/gnome3"
[01:43] <astropirate> zykotick9, ohh wow didn't know that
[01:43] <Noobuntu> command: "sudo apt-get update"
[01:43] <astropirate> how can i fix this?
[01:43] <zykotick9> !gksudo | astropirate
[01:44] <astropirate> zykotick9, what do I do to fix this?
[01:44] <Noobuntu> install synaptic package manager from ubuntu software center
[01:44] <zykotick9> astropirate: no idea
[01:44] <astropirate> :( :( :(
[01:44] <zykotick9> astropirate: it might not be related...
[01:44] <eamon> does anyone khow to install the latest gcc?
[01:44] <simo_n> i have installed by mistake some application for launchpad, how to remove it please : Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mj-casalogic/bumblebee/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[01:44] <bazhang> eamon, dont crosspost
[01:45] <astropirate> zykotick9, i really don't think it is in this case.
[01:45] <Noobuntu> need to go now
[01:45] <wellwhy_> Alright what do I install in Synaptic Package Manager
[01:45] <astropirate> zykotick9, is there a way that i can su  into my regular account?
[01:45] <astropirate> from te guest account
[01:45] <eamon> bazhang: don't tell me what not to do.
[01:46] <zykotick9> astropirate: no idea.  i've never seen a guest account on a linux box before (i know ubuntu has had one for a while, i've just never seen/used it before)
[01:46] <astropirate> first time i've used it too
[01:48] <simo_n>   i deleted the guest account and  im unable now to lock the station since yesterday
[01:48] <simo_n> by creating new guest account, the problem isnt solved
[01:50] <randomDude> simo_n: the guest account is ephemeral. every time you login with "guest" a random use home folder and user is created.
[01:51] <simo_n> randome i never used it, when i deleted it, the lock function isnt working anymore
[01:51] <linuxuz3r> hi
[01:51] <randomDude> simo_n: point is... not sure how you deleted it. when it deletes itself when you logout of guest.
[01:52] <randomDude> simo_n: the correct way to disable guest login is to edit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[01:52] <randomDude> simo_n: for future reference : http://askubuntu.com/questions/62564/how-do-i-disable-the-guest-session
[01:53] <Deeewayne> I installed ubuntu-desktop on 12.04 using 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'.  How can I uninstall ubuntu-desktop ?
[01:53] <simo_n> random : sudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[01:53] <simo_n> Add the following line
[01:53] <simo_n> allow-guest=false
[01:53] <simo_n> its what i did yesterday
[01:53] <randomDude> simo_n: use gksu or gksudo when prefixing ui apps with sudo.
[01:53] <simo_n> i didnt deleted but disabled , my mistake sorry
[01:54] <eleazar> hey guys, i bought an ssd to move my ubuntu install onto. what's the best way to move my current ubuntu installation to the new hard drive? :\
[01:54] <Deeewayne> I guess its apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop, right?
[01:54] <sambagirl> how do you initiate compiz in 11.04 with gnome 2 as your manager?
[01:55] <randomDude> simo_n: so you didn't delete anything then ? perhaps you inserted the allow-guest line in the wrong place ?
[01:55] <simo_n> i will check
[01:55] <randomDude> Deeewayne: probably not, ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package that describes a list of other packages to install.
[01:55] <sambagirl> before under appearance you had an additional option for  visual affects
[01:55] <bazhang> Deeewayne, thats a metapackage, so no
[01:56] <Deeewayne> is there an easy way to remove it?
[01:56] <bazhang> Deeewayne, what other DE did you have installed
[01:56] <Deeewayne> I think I would prefer to go back to console only since its a server
[01:57] <simo_n> randoom :  gksudo /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf  ?
[01:57] <randomDude> Deeewayne: http://askubuntu.com/questions/2226/what-exactly-is-in-ubuntu-desktop
[01:57] <randomDude> simo_n: gksudo gedit /etc/lightdm/lightdm.conf
[01:57] <simo_n> ty
[01:58] <simo_n> output : [SeatDefaults]
[01:58] <simo_n> user-session=ubuntu
[01:58] <simo_n> greeter-session=unity-greeter
[01:58] <simo_n> allow-guest=false
[01:58] <FloodBot1> simo_n: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[01:59] <Deeewayne> randomDude, the UI seems pretty slow on my box w/ 16 GB RAM
[02:00] <cornell> Cool... the XFCE screen saver is snowflakes ;-)
[02:01] <threepoint> Is it possible to copy from  a device only visible on lsusb?
[02:01] <simo_n> random how to use synaptic broken packages repair please ?
[02:02] <XiaolinDraconis> askubuntu.com/questions/186730/chromium-quicklist-profiles-not-working-any-ideas
[02:02] <cornell> Besides the lack of menus, another thing that bugged me about the new DE... it keeps telling me about software that's available for download.  Get a screen with recently used applications, AND software you can download.  Get a screen with your installed applications, AND software you can download.
[02:04] <cornell> Interesting...  I start the Update Manager, there are updates available... I hit install, and they start installing.  No prompt for password.
[02:05] <OerHeks> cornell correct, unless it is a kernel update
[02:06] <cornell> Is that a new Ubuntu behavior, or is it XFCE?
[02:06] <OerHeks> new behaviour indeed
[02:07] <simo_n> cornell what about a new install
[02:08] <OerHeks> http://askubuntu.com/questions/86773/update-manager-doesnt-ask-for-a-password
[02:08] <cornell> What, simo_n?  I've a new Laptop, with Windows 7, I installed Ubuntu 12 dual boot on it.
[02:08] <simo_n> cornell i mean what about installing a frech install of ubuntu
[02:09] <cornell> Well... I kind of have a fresh install.  The laptop's new
[02:09] <simo_n> not the laptop :) the os :)
[02:09] <simo_n> ubuntu
[02:10] <tambu> Upgraded to 12.10 and for some reason now ubuntu thinks I have two displays and it's displaying them on top of each other.. (overlayed) Where would these two devices be configured?
[02:10] <cornell> Thanks OerHeks.  Nice link.  Points out that the lack of challenge is only when updating existing.  It's still needs password for new software.
[02:10] <OerHeks> cornell correct, or a kernel update
[02:12] <cornell> simo_n: New laptop, new OS. Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[02:12] <kingCrawlerx> nice
[02:12] <kingCrawlerx> how much ram?
[02:15] <cornell> kingCrawlerx: Me... New laptop reports 5.7 Gig RAM.  500 Gig hard-drive, 50-50 Windows-Ubuntu.
[02:16] <kingCrawlerx> i don't get why my ubuntu 12.04 install reports 7.7 gb ram
[02:16] <simo_n> cornell what i mean is to reinstall ubuntu
[02:16] <kingCrawlerx> i think i have more
[02:16] <kingCrawlerx> never mind i only have 8 gb ram
[02:16] <OerHeks> kingCrawlerx, some machines have an onboard GPU, it uses system memory
[02:17] <kingCrawlerx> true. i was mistaken
[02:17] <kingCrawlerx> i thought I had 12 gb ram
[02:17] <kingCrawlerx> but my laptop with ubuntu on it doesn't have that many slots
[02:18] <needhelp1>  Hello all, im helping to pull some data for Ubuntu Beta releases and have a very short survey up on google documents found here. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/viewform?formkey=dFdSTUgzREoyeFZNSWRHSjlXMGYteGc6MQ    Anyone interested please take the survey and feel free to share the link. The results will be published in two weeks to the public domain.
[02:18] <needhelp1> any help would be greatly appreciated
[02:18] <OerHeks> needhelp1, support for QQ 12.10 in #ubuntu+1 thanks
[02:18] <OerHeks> no polling here please
[02:19] <needhelp1> OerHeks, np, thanks for the heads up
[02:19] <OerHeks> yw
[02:24] <simo_n> oerheks i moved ubuntu install with wubi with bcbc script and instructions, the old partitions still not empty , the move was succeful, what i should do with the old partition ?
[02:25] <zombieROT> I have an mp4 video shot from my phone that has a bad frame. I can open it in vlc and the video will freeze at 5:00 but if I scroll past the corrupted frame it plays. I can't fix it with avidemux because it wont let me go past the corrupted part.
[02:26] <OerHeks> simo_n, you can delete them, if they are not mounted. if they are, boot from live cd, open gparted and delete those and re-use them..
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> simo_n, Wubi just makes a file did you put that in a partition outside the usual C: partition?
[02:27] <OerHeks> oh, wubi partition on ntfs?
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> originally
[02:27] <simo_n> wilee yes i installed wubi in new created partition H with 20 giga, now 10 giga is used in it
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> simo_n, the wubi that you copied the original is just a file remove with add remove in windows or the remove in the file.\
[02:29] <simo_n> wont this hurt anything >
[02:29] <simo_n> ?
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> simo_n, If it is a wubi it was running independent of windows except for being a stanza in its boot menu, you remove it through windows to remove that stanza, at least to do it in one step.
[02:30] <simo_n> im asking because im a noob, if i delete it and stuck in grub console with errors i wont get out from it
[02:31] <tambu> hrm did they move the 2D mode for Unity on 12.10? can't find it on login screen
[02:31] <simo_n> i will reboot to win7 and remove it
[02:31] <OerHeks> tambu yes ubuntu dropped 2D in QQ 12.10
[02:31] <bazhang> OerHeks, thats not right
[02:32] <tambu> OerHeks: oh dear.. soo if your graphics card is having issues running it.. what your SOL?
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> simo_n, You  have the original and the copy to a partition as I understand this.  You also made the original and put it in a partition outside of the windows OS right.
[02:32] <bazhang> tambu, 12.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[02:33] <nature> what is good download tool?
[02:35] <cornell> Oh, simo_not here any longer?
[02:35] <Stanley00> !good | nature
[02:36] <bazhang> nature, to download what
[02:37] <nature> move
[02:37] <nature> movie
[02:37] <bazhang> nature, move? whats that
[02:40] <simo_n> everything allright :) thanks wilee, i installed by mistake a launchpade thing, how i can remove it, i see its error when i make software update
[02:41] <bazhang> simo_n, either in synaptic package manager, or by editing the /etc/apt/sources.list directly
[02:41] <simo_n> an example
[02:41] <simo_n> Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/mj-casalogic/bumblebee/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/source/Sources  404  Not Found
[02:42] <simo_n> open synaptic and look for bumblebee in the search ?
[02:42] <cornell> Hi simo_n... I understand that you're suggesting I install Ubuntu.  I'm trying to express that I've just installed Ubuntu, hence re-installing would be moot. at this time.
[02:42] <bazhang> simo_n, look in software sources, or gksudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and place a # in fron t of the offending line(s)
[02:43] <simo_n> this will not uninstall this bumblee but only stop it from gettinng updated
[02:44] <wilee-nilee> simo_n, here is an explanation of the ways of removing a ppa including a purge that removes added packages that came with the original ppa install.   http://www.webupd8.org/2012/02/how-to-use-launchpad-ppa-add-remove.html
[02:45] <Ozdemon> How can I find the cpu multiplier in an amd system? I have tried cat /proc/cpuinfo, but that doesn't give me the info AFAIK.
[02:46] <bazhang> simo_n, so install ppa-purge
[02:46] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | simo_n
[02:46] <h22turbo> Ozdemon: the bios?
[02:46] <Noobuntu> sudo apt-get purge?
[02:47] <simo_n> i have a pc not a launchpad ...sorry if ii dont understand u
[02:48] <Ozdemon> heeturbo, do you mean look in the bios rather than thru the terminal? I thought there might be some cmd or app like cpu-z for windoze.
[02:48] <bazhang> simo_n, read the link above
[02:50] <dsnyders> Thunderbird has a long way to go in managing group email lists.  Is there an email program better suited to group management?
[02:51] <pr0metheu5> Hey guys. I can't decrease my brightness more than one step in Ubuntu. I'm on a Samsung laptop, and it's 64 bit.
[02:51] <pr0metheu5> Using the FN keys, that is.
[02:51] <pr0metheu5> Increasing/decreasing sound works perfectly fine. It's just the brightness, only goes up or down one step.
[02:52] <tonsofpcs> pr0metheu5: try increasing it like 20 presses then decreasing 20 presses...
[02:52] <dsnyders> pr0metheu5, can't help, but hopefully that one step doesn't bring you from full-on to full-off.
[02:52] <tonsofpcs> I know on initial load on one of my machines it needed to be 'shown' the scale
[02:53] <Stanley00> pr0metheu5: did you try add acpi_backlight=vendor to your kernel when booting?
[02:53] <pr0metheu5> No, it's not full on or off. It's either full brightness, or slightly less brightness.
[02:53] <pr0metheu5> No, Stanley00
[02:53] <pr0metheu5> tonsofpcs: doesn't do anything.
[02:53] <Ozdemon> Okay, I will look in the bios tks. Bye
[02:53] <Stanley00> pr0metheu5: well, you should try it
[02:53] <pr0metheu5> I can adjust brightness fine using the GUI.
[02:53] <pr0metheu5> Stanley00: how do I do it?
[02:54] <Stanley00> pr0metheu5: wait a min, I need some search :D
[02:54] <pr0metheu5> Stanley00: ok, thank you.
[02:54] <pr0metheu5> it's a bug in the recent kernel, isn't it? >_<
[02:54] <pr0metheu5> also, having a samsung laptop does not help at all.
[02:55] <dsnyders> pr0metheu5, are you holding it down or repeatedly pressing it?
[02:55] <pr0metheu5> dsnyders: tried both
[02:55] <Stanley00> pr0metheu5: this link should help http://askubuntu.com/questions/128463/brightness-controls-dont-work-on-an-acer-4741g
[02:56] <pr0metheu5> Thing is, I haven't actually even installed Ubuntu yet. I tried to see if the FN keys worked fine in Ubuntu first, and then Fedora second. The problem exists in both distros, which leads me to believe it's the kernal.
[02:56] <pr0metheu5> kernel*
[02:58] <extropy> pr0metheu5: see xev, xbindkeys, xdotool, and "eject cdrom"
[02:58] <Stanley00> pr0metheu5: so, you can set that manually when boot up, on ubuntu, press F6 will bring you a line to edit, add "acpi_..." at the end off that line
[02:59] <pr0metheu5> "acpi_osi=samsung" right?
[02:59] <pr0metheu5> no, just acpi_osi=
[03:00] <Stanley00> pr0metheu5: "acpi_backlight=vendor" is more general
[03:00] <pr0metheu5> yes, so I see
[03:01] <XiaolinDraconis> askubuntu.com/questions/186730/chromium-quicklist-profiles-not-working-any-ideas
[03:01] <pr0metheu5> I just have to add it to /etc/default/grub
[03:01] <pr0metheu5> and then upgrade grub and restart
[03:01] <XiaolinDraconis> some help please? askubuntu.com/questions/186730/chromium-quicklist-profiles-not-working-any-ideas
[03:02] <bazhang> XiaolinDraconis, no need to repost so quickly
[03:03] <XiaolinDraconis> realized i had been posting the link without letting anyone know i needed help
[03:03] <pr0metheu5> thanks for all the help, guys, you people are saints.
[03:03] <simo_n> bazhang can you please repost me that link, lost it when rebooted, i though loging is enabled
[03:03] <pr0metheu5> peace. \/
[03:04] <XiaolinDraconis> http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html
[03:04] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | simo_n this one?
[03:05] <simo_n> i installed ppa-purge from soft centre then its launched , still the error when generating the cache in the update manager
  there is no link containing launchpad or ppa in softs list
[03:10] <njr> Hi, I have a 11.10 live cd, How do I boot into the curses installer (the X-based on isnt working)
[03:10] <bazhang> simo_n, in which directory
[03:11] <bazhang> njr, the alternate one you mean?
[03:11] <bazhang> !alternate | njr this one?
[03:11] <simo_n> /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:11] <bazhang> simo_n, what about sources.list.d
[03:11] <simo_n> gksudo  too ?
[03:11] <bazhang> simo_n, sure
[03:12] <njr> bazhang: is it possible to use the alternate installer from the live cd ? I have command line access though the virtual terminals
[03:12] <pr0metheu5> Stanley00: I just booted ubuntu live and changed the boot options to add "acpi_backlight=vendor" after splash --
[03:13] <simo_n> nothing happen  sudo gksudo sources.list.d
[03:13] <pr0metheu5> I added that bit and just pressed enter, and it booted up. But nothing changed..
[03:13] <bazhang> njr, not to my knowledge; did you check the login screen options?
[03:13] <bazhang> simo_n, gksudo gedit
[03:13] <linuxdude> Hello
[03:13] <bazhang> simo_n, you need a text editor
[03:15] <simo_n> bazhang can you recommend a good one plz
[03:15] <linuxdude> Vim
[03:15] <bazhang> simo_n, I just told you: gksudo gedit
[03:16] <bazhang> simo_n, gedit is the text editor
[03:16] <Stanley00> pr0metheu5: oh, after the "--", I'm not sure but maybe it have to be put before the "--" and maybe you should add "acpi=linux acpi_backlight=vendor"
[03:16] <simo_n> its gave me a blank  page  gksudo gedit sources.list.d
[03:16] <bazhang> simo_n, you are not using the correct path
[03:17] <simo_n> i will redo the link above another time
[03:18] <cornell> TTFN
[03:18] <cornell> (Ta-Ta For Now)
[03:19] <crimsonmane> if you want to edit your software sources, you can do it from the software manager (mano is it called now?)
[03:19] <bazhang> crimsonmane, you maybe thinking of muon with kde4
[03:19] <simo_n> sudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-mozilla-daily/ppa   , i dont know the exact name of thiis ppa and its location ...
[03:20] <crimsonmane> oh you're right. regardless every distro you can do software sources from the software manager or equiv.
[03:20] <bazhang> crimsonmane, this is gnome we are discussing, so he wont have that
[03:20] <zymaster> Hey just curious anyone know a good way to transfer all software and files to a new computer? I am going to get a new computer and don't feel like installing all m y old software old over again even if I get to keep my home folder
[03:20] <zymaster> all over again*
[03:21] <digitaljedi> hey guys
[03:21] <crimsonmane> zymaster: there's a backup program... open your Dash and type "back" and it should appear
[03:21] <simo_n> zynet connect them  ( wifi network for example) and transfer them between the 2 pc
[03:22] <zymaster> crimsonmane thanks, also I am going to be dula booting windows 8 and ubuntu on this machine so this won't erase my windows 8 stuff and other partitions will it? Just so that I don't get screemed at with insults I would like to clarify I do not like windows but I need it to run software that doesnt work in wine.
[03:23] <crimsonmane> zymaster: why would performing a backup cause things to disappear?
[03:23] <client_alive> I need to run unison file synchronizer on a file owned by root. My ssh is configured to allow root login so using ssh manually I can sudo or su and do whatever I need to with scp (one time) but now I need to know how to set up unison so it can handle that file and not have any problems. Does anyone know how I would go about this?
[03:24] <zymaster> Didn't know if restoring from backup would restore the entire computer and not just the partition ubuntu is running on
[03:24] <crimsonmane> use the same app to restore... and you've nothing to worry about.
[03:24] <crimsonmane> it only backs up what you tell it to. your home folder and custom installed programs
[03:25] <zymaster> ok thanks crimsonmane love this channel such fast useful support and help for free.
[03:25] <crimsonmane> i think it's called Nepomuk?
[03:26] <zymaster> the one installed with ubuntu looks like its called deja-dup but not 100% sure
[03:26] <crimsonmane> yeah same thing
[03:26] <zymaster> ok good I will use that when I get my new computer thanks for the help
[03:28] <njr> bazhang: manage to get it working on the low graphics mode, thanks
[03:29] <daanish> ubuntu installer isn't giving me an option to "install alongside windows" what gives?
[03:30] <daanish> it's only either "replace," or "something else."
[03:30] <crimsonmane> "something else"
[03:30] <jinjonBoo> lol
[03:30] <daanish> I haven't ever done this manually before, that's why I'm skeptic.
[03:30] <daanish> For instance, where does the bootloader go?
[03:30] <crimsonmane> you're not skeptic. you're afraid. bootloader will overwrite windows bootloader, but it's supposed to go in the same spot i think.
[03:31] <daanish> Well, yeah, I am scared.
[03:31] <daanish> I thought so too, but does it?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> !dualbooting
[03:31] <jinjonBoo> daanish: i would reccomend making 2 partitions: one for Win, one for ubuntu. install Win on 1rst partition, then install ubuntu on 2nd partition. he makes everything for you, i guess
[03:31] <crimsonmane> yes and it "should" automagically put the windows boot option there.
[03:32] <daanish> Nope. It puts /dev/sdb automatically there, which I can only make out to be the flashdrive I'm using to install it.
[03:32] <jinjonBoo> including the bootloader, which overwrites the windows one
[03:32] <jinjonBoo> i would definately NOT reccomend installing windows AFTER ubuntu, cuz they mess all the boot
[03:32] <jinjonBoo> *they - meaning Microsoft
[03:32] <daanish> Not doing that at all
[03:33] <jinjonBoo> I know, it's just a bonus info :P
[03:33] <daanish> So, location for boot loader installation, should I just pick "sda 1 - Windows 7 (Loader)"
[03:33] <wilee-nilee> daanish, Do you have the windows backed up, a clone?
[03:33] <daanish> Nope.
[03:33] <loadid_> not sda1, just /dev/sda
[03:34] <wilee-nilee> daanish, you need to have that or at the least a way to reload or install in case you need to.
[03:34] <jinjonBoo> daanish: i'm really not sure, you should ask someone else, sorry. i'm just a newbie :)
[03:34] <simo_n> thanks all :)
[03:35] <daanish> wilee-nilee: I have windows install media ready, so that's not 'much' of an issue.
[03:35] <daanish> So, the boot loader is supposed to go to the root of the hard drive. "/dev/sda" then, right?
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> daanish, Cool you need to be aware of the types of partitions and the limit to the amount allowed on a single HD.
[03:36] <daanish> types, as in swap, boot, recovery, etc?
[03:37] <wilee-nilee> daaaan, primary only 4 allowed or up to 3 primaries with a extended holding logicals for the ubuntu install.
[03:37] <sfears> yes daanish, boot loader to root of hard drive
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> daanish, ^^^^
[03:38] <daanish> Thanks, you guys.
[03:39] <daanish> wilee-nilee: I plan on reading more about hard disk partitions and how memory is used in linux sometime.
[03:39] <SolarAquarion> http://privatepaste.com/76ec175a69
[03:39] <daanish> aah, what about swap area?
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> daanish, Cool my only concern here is that you do not exceed the partitions allowed and make your HD dynamic
[03:40] <daanish> I plan on installing it on /dev/sda4.. so file system should be ext4, right?
[03:40] <daanish> but what should the mount point to it be?
[03:41] <SolarAquarion> Can someone help me with my problem http://privatepaste.com/76ec175a69
[03:41] <SolarAquarion> Opera will not install
[03:45] <daanish> Oh, so wherever it's being installed should be mounted to "/"
[03:46] <daanish> right?
[03:46] <Noobuntu> daanish: its generally a good idea to have mount /, /usr, /home and /swap on separate partitions
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> daanish, you in the something other option?
[03:47] <Noobuntu> but since you are just starting out, just mount / on /dev/sda4
[03:47] <Noobuntu> do you have a separate partition identified for swap?
[03:48] <daanish> Noobuntu, I was planning on working on the swap after figuring out what the main partition mounts to
[03:48] <daanish> I'm not making seperate partitions for each /home, etc, because I'm trying to dual boot (and yes, because I'm just starting out with this.)
[03:48] <Noobuntu> ok -- how much is ur RAM?
[03:48] <daanish> 4GB
[03:48] <daanish> Rule of thumb, swap = ram x 2
[03:48] <himanshu_linux> Hi, i want to know about the portioning of hard disk . And about, what can delete my files ?
[03:48] <Noobuntu> alright - so your swap shouuld be atelast 4 GB in size
[03:48] <daanish> not twice that of ram, the same?
[03:49] <Noobuntu> no - ram x 2 would be overkill - it will hardly be used
[03:49] <daanish> Ok.
[03:49] <Noobuntu> just use the same size as that of RAM if you are  planning to use hibernate
[03:49] <daanish> Thanks, Noobuntu
[03:49] <Noobuntu> you are welcome
[03:50] <daanish> Quick question, you think 68GB is enough for an ubuntu install?
[03:51] <Noobuntu> that would depend on how you plan to use it
[03:51] <daanish> Bah humbug.. I can never remember if I ran out of space on my last escapade with linux.
[03:51] <Noobuntu> if you are asking only about the operating system space requirements then 68GB is of course more than enough
[03:51] <ClientAlive> how do I change the umask in ubuntu 12.04? It isn't through /etc/profile anymore as that file says something about a pam_umask. I know nothing about pam modules. What do I actually do to changet the umask?
[03:52] <daanish> Noobuntu, I'm just worried because of all the constant updates?
[03:52] <Noobuntu> 68 GB would be enough
[03:52] <daanish> And I'm dual booting, so most of the media and other trash would be in a third ntfs partition..
[03:53] <Noobuntu> as I said - for the system files and basic applications 68 GB is quite sufficient
[03:53] <Noobuntu> the rest depends on what u plan to dump in
[03:53] <daanish> What are the significant advantages of having /home on a seperate partition?
[03:54] <Sokel> daanish: If you trash the other partitions, you can recover your stuff.
[03:54] <Noobuntu> if you have to wipe out ur OS sometime later - and it happens many times when we accidentally break something for good
[03:54] <Noobuntu> u will lose ur user customizations and stuff
[03:54] <daanish> Good point. How much space should be designated for that? I had to buy a new HD a few months ago, I knew I should've gotten something bigger than 320 GB ...
[03:54] <himanshu_linux> hi help me with hard disk partition ? i want to know about it .
[03:55] <Noobuntu> on the other hand if u have a separate /home partition u can just reinstall afresh and mount the same partition as /home
[03:55] <Sokel> daanish: If you have a LOT of data, give it a good size.
[03:55] <daanish> himanshu_linux: I'm here for the same reason. This helped me quite a bit: http://imgur.com/a/rw1r2#0
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer and screen corruptionevery cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean install('nomodeset' fixes this but then compiz is unworkable)?
[03:55] <Noobuntu> depends on how u plan to use it daanish
[03:55] <Sokel> ClientAlive: If you want to change it, it HAS to be in /etc/profile.
[03:55] <Noobuntu> set around 20GB aside for OS and other basic apps
[03:55] <Noobuntu> rest is upto u
[03:57] <daanish> Thanks a lot, you guys!
[03:58] <himanshu_linux> daanish : i want to know how much partition i can do ?
[03:58] <daanish> As many as you want, I suppose? Will it be just Linux, or dual boot between windows and linux?
[03:58] <adie> I am having an issue with my gpu :(
[03:58] <adie> with the open source drivers, unity 3d fails to start up properly and freezes on boot
[03:59] <adie> with the official drivers from AMD, all my 3d games flicker black
[03:59] <adie> and perform poorly :|
[03:59] <himanshu_linux> daanish : ok .. what can lose the data ?
[04:00] <daanish> himanshu_linux: Formatting a drive, or making any linux based changes to it will most probably format it and make you lose date.
[04:03] <c_smith> Hi, I'm trying to connect to a media server on my network that is use UPnP, and have tried Banshee, Rhythmbox and Amarok all unsuccessfully, what can I do to make this work?
[04:03] <c_smith> I'm even willing to try another media player at this point.
[04:04] <adie> c_smith, have you tried grilo for rhythmbox?
[04:04] <silverarrow> does anyone know which filesystem is default for ubuntu i386 and powerpc?
[04:04] <c_smith> adie, will try that in a second, gotta install (had uninstalled it for space reasons)
[04:04] <silverarrow> I used the regular installer
[04:04] <wilee-nilee> silverarrow, ext4
[04:05] <adie> c_smith, do keep in mind you will need to update rhythmbox, I think
[04:05] <adie> 2.97 rather than 2.96 which comes with ubuntu
[04:05] <c_smith> adie, not a prob, as I'm installing it fresh from the repos
[04:05] <silverarrow> wilee-nilee, there is no reason to expect file fragmentation or weirness?
[04:06] <c_smith> adie, I see.
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> silverarrow, Fragmentation would be unusual what is the problem?
[04:06] <adie> I can't help you with it specificly, but that's what I walked my friend through, and grilo for rhythmbox worked for him
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[04:07] <FloodBot1> SupaDupaJenkins: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:07] <silverarrow> wilee-nilee, it`s  just I get told there are major fragmentation problems with linux, and ext3, and horrid hardware graphics support
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[04:08] <FloodBot1> SupaDupaJenkins: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:08] <lotuspsychje> !ops
[04:11] <silverarrow> am I in?
[04:11] <silverarrow> can someone read me?
[04:11] <wilee-nilee> yes
[04:11]  * wilee-nilee loves the ignore
[04:11] <silverarrow> something happened, major flooding
[04:12] <silverarrow> there is an ignore fuction in xchat, but I cant make it work
[04:12] <silverarrow> wilee-nilee, and btrfs is sort not yet usable
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> I use /ignore "user" all
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> silverarrow, So I hear but it is not claimed to be, not many use it those that do should be using it.
[04:13] <silverarrow> at least makes for a nice converasation with ones self?
[04:13] <redwarriors25> how can i edit ip address in ubuntu
[04:15] <Calinou> you can't change your external IP using anything other than router restarts - if you have a dynamic ip, shut down your router, wait then restart it
[04:15] <adie> redwarriors25, you can change your local IP in the network settings
[04:15] <adie> ^_^
[04:15] <Calinou> internal IPs is similar: it depends on your DHCP settings on your router
[04:15] <adie> I always manually set mine because I am lazy :/
[04:15] <redwarriors25> the localhost network is ok but in accessing website like google cant
[04:16] <TJ-> How does one copy a file-system from a DVD that is smaller than the DVD itself (a CD-ROM image burned to it) ? I've tried dd and readom but both will read to the end of the device (4.7GB) obviously. The file-system on the DVD is about 650MB.
[04:16] <_Brian> win 3
[04:16] <_Brian> erp
[04:17] <ClientAlive> I'm getting permission denied errors trying to run unison on a file in /etc (good grief) - what to do?
[04:18] <silverarrow> linux and drivers is not a lost case?
[04:18] <TJ-> ClientAlive: Many files in /etc/ can only be accessed by 'root' user (or using 'sudo' to gain elevated privileges for a sudoers user)
[04:18] <silverarrow> graphic drivers I mean *
[04:19] <King_Snooty> Has Steam been released for Linux yet?
[04:19] <c_smith> King_Snooty, no
[04:20] <Phiscribe> he means that your lazy for not typing steam linux in google
[04:20] <c_smith> King_Snooty, but it's in beta
[04:20] <King_Snooty> dern :'(
[04:20] <King_Snooty> can someone get me in beta?
[04:20] <c_smith> King_Snooty, not I,
[04:20] <Phiscribe> uuuhhh
[04:20] <Phiscribe> sure mail me 100 bucks
[04:21] <ClientAlive> Tj: Yes, and I wanted to keep it owned by root but using unison on that was too daunting. I did a sudo chown uname:uname to it then ran unison on it again. Still, permission denied and the operation does not succeed.
[04:21] <c_smith> King_Snooty, do a google on Steam Linux and go to their blog they have set up for it, has all you would need to know there.
[04:21] <ClientAlive> So I'm totally stumped man. Ideally, I'd like unison to operate on a handful of root owned files but dont' know how to set that up.
[04:21] <TJ-> ClientAlive: it's not just ownership... check the file permissions on the file too. It depends which user the unison process is running as
[04:22] <ClientAlive> ohhh. Well that file is -rw-rw---  uname:uname (where uname is my user name with admin privs)
[04:23] <MrWubbles> / _ )/ __ \/ __ \/ |/ / / // / __/ _
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[04:23] <FloodBot1> MrWubbles: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:23] <ClientAlive> Tj: what would I do to get unison able to operate on root owned files? Add it to some group or something?
[04:23] <TJ-> ClientAlive: how about at the other end? Does uname:uname have *write* permissions to the directory it's writing the file to?
[04:24] <blackshirt> hello, is it possible to limit samba just allowed some type of files ?
[04:24] <TJ-> ClientAlive: Usually, /etc/ is Access: (0755/drwxr-xr-x)  Uid: (    0/    root)   Gid: (    0/    root)
[04:26] <ClientAlive> In fact I don't have write perms for /etc. Thing is, I don't have much desire to go screwing around opening up security holes in my system. I wish there was a good secure way to let this app do what it needs to (regardless of perms).
[04:26] <ClientAlive> regardless of ownership too
[04:26] <blackshirt> ClientAlive, what you need exactly ?
[04:26] <TJ-> ClientAlive: What's wrong with using rsync?
[04:26] <blackshirt> that was normal
[04:27] <ClientAlive> Tj: well I like what I see with unison. I'd like to take it for a spin  :)
[04:27] <TJ-> ClientAlive: You could always read the original files using sudo ... and pipe them to a non-privileged process for writing at the backup destination
[04:28] <ClientAlive> hmm
[04:31] <ClientAlive> Tj: Isn't there a way I could make it so unison can sudo? But then how would I get it to actually use sudo when needed? And, somehow, that seems like a really bad idea - security wise. No?
[04:32] <Calinou> King_Snooty, you can use wine to use steam on linux, although it may not work all the time
[04:32] <TJ-> You don't always need elevated privileges to *read* files in /etc/ (check the individual directories and files ) but you do need them to *write* to /etc/
[04:32]  * Calinou braces himself - prepares for troll replies
[04:32] <King_Snooty> I am much excited for a native client.
[04:32] <blackshirt> hello, is it possible to limit samba just allowed some type of files ?
[04:34] <ClientAlive> why can't I make it so unison operates as root (like it's part of the system where it can do anything) but then make it so unison can not be accessed/ used/ even tourched without root permission (sudo or su). So in order to run unison now you have to have the ability to sudo or su. ??
[04:35] <ClientAlive> Why not that? Seems like the perfect scenario to me...
[04:35] <TJ-> ClientAlive: You can, I would think. If operating as root then the profiles would go in the root user's home directory so only that user can access them
[04:36] <ClientAlive> Tj: Hmm, sounds like a lot of work?
[04:36] <TJ-> ClientAlive: 2 minutes?
[04:36] <ClientAlive> really?
[04:37] <TJ-> Well I assume you've mastered how to define unison profiles by now... I've seen you asking questions about it for several days!
[04:37] <ClientAlive> not exactly  :s
[04:37] <XiaolinDraconis> sooo any solution to choppy flash? i checked the questions and searched google, it gives me a very diverse array of solutions, really dont wanna take a shot in the dark with this. seems like everytime i do that something breaks even worse
[04:37] <TJ-> ClientAlive: 'root' is just another user, with it's own home directory just like everyone else. It's just it lives at /root/    not in /home/
[04:38] <TJ-> ClientAlive: So I'd think that if unison keeps its profiles/configs in the ~/.unison/ directory, you'd put them in /root/.unison/ and then just ensure for those profiles you do sudo unison...
[04:38] <ClientAlive> yeah but unison expects profiles to be in ~/.unison (for one thing) Then theres how to make that program have run with root privs, then there's how to restrict using the program unless you have root privs.
[04:39] <XiaolinDraconis> currently watching youtube and it isnt choppy, but i was just watching tubeplus tv show and it was slightly choppy, now im playing a game on kongregate and its a little more choppy
[04:40] <ClientAlive> I think that to make it run with root privs I would add it to some group (some existing group) but what about changing where unison expects to find it's .prf files and about restricting running it?
[04:40] <TJ-> ClientAlive: "~" expands to the current user's home directory. If the current user is root (as is the case when using sudo) then "~" is /root/
[04:40] <yuio> i'm a newbie . I try to install ubuntu on my PC using pendrive .Problem is " i can startup my ubuntu 12.04 32bit without my pendrive " .if i don't use my pendrive on startup , it show me a blank screen .Help me !
[04:40] <ClientAlive> Tj: no shit! hmm...
[04:41] <TJ-> !language
[04:41] <jordy> ubuntu br
[04:41] <jordy> #ubuntubr
[04:41] <ClientAlive> well what makes stuff run as root? Is there a root group or something?
[04:42] <jordy> sala brasileira do ubuntu ?
[04:42] <shockingbehavur> I have a firefox issue ever since i had the upgrade in lucid(which now i'm using precise) the addon manager always fails to complete operation it doesn't show anything just stalls on addons.cdn.mozilla.net...is there anyway through this disaster
[04:42] <yuio> TJ-:  please help me
[04:42] <TJ-> ClientAlive: Any user allowed by /etc/sudoers rules may be allowed to; the user usually belongs to the admin or adm groups fro that
[04:42] <XiaolinDraconis> it is /join #ubuntubr
[04:43] <XiaolinDraconis> im thinking yuio
[04:43] <yuio> i'm a newbie . I try to install ubuntu on my PC using pendrive .Problem is " i can not  startup my ubuntu 12.04 32bit without my pendrive " .if i don't use my pendrive on startup , it show me a blank screen .Help me !
[04:43] <ClientAlive> Tj: yeah but in practice they have to type "sudo" on the command line then enter a password. I don't think unison can do that.
[04:43] <yuio> ops ! sorry
[04:43] <XiaolinDraconis> yuio, i know what it is
[04:43] <XiaolinDraconis> yuio, same thing happened to me
[04:43] <TJ-> ClientAlive: On Ubuntu, the user created at installation time is made part of the admin group and can use sudo. Other users can be added to the group
[04:44] <XiaolinDraconis> yuio, run the flash drive version of ubuntu and open gparted
[04:44] <uni4dfx> Anyone know by any chance, where should the printer drivers be installed for network printing? On the CUPS print server, on the client or both?
[04:44] <yuio> XiaolinDraconis:  ok ! then
[04:44] <XiaolinDraconis> yuio, then change the boot flag to the new partion
[04:44] <TJ-> ClientAlive: You can configure users that can only run particular programs in /etc/sudoers, and you can specify NOPASSWD if you want to
[04:45] <TJ-> ClientAlive: So, you could create a user called 'unison' with almost no regular privileges but then through sudoers allow that user to run the unison binary with root privileges
[04:45] <TJ-> !sudoers | ClientAlive
[04:45] <XiaolinDraconis> askubuntu.com/questions/186730/chromium-quicklist-profiles-not-working-any-ideas
[04:46] <XiaolinDraconis> help anyone?
[04:46] <ClientAlive> hmm. I'm not sure if I was thinking of the same thing. I can't think of a good example but I was thinking of some process that runs as part of the system and can basically do whatever it needs to (perms or not).
[04:46] <ClientAlive> like dmesg or something. It does whatever it wants right?
[04:46] <TJ-> ClientAlive: A system service for backup? There's deja-dupe and bacula already for that
[04:47] <ClientAlive> not backup, for keeping two computers environments and settings and so on identical (in sync)
[04:47] <ClientAlive> the file the question was started over is /etc/.bash.aliases
[04:48] <TJ-> ClientAlive: Why would that file be changed and need syncing? Usually changes to aliases are done at the user level, not system
[04:49] <ClientAlive> I have my aliases set up so root and myuser can run the same alias (I do su occasionally)
[04:50] <joever> hi guys, 12.04, having a font rendering problem, especially with browsers. fonts are blurry and fuzzy. tried playing with hinting, antialiasing, fonts etc but no luck. can someone please help me?
[04:50] <vicTROLLA> Anyone know why 12.04 would display the MOTD twice on login?
[04:51] <ClientAlive> afk for a moment
[04:51] <Spr0cket> .
[04:51] <TJ-> ClientAlive: Why not simply symlink the file then? "sudo ln -s /home/$USER/.bash_aliases /root/.bash_aliases" - anything you put in "/home/$USER/.bash_aliases" is seen by the root user
[04:52] <TJ-> vicTROLLA: maybe udpate-motd got confused
[04:53] <TJ-> vicTROLLA: or even update-motd !
[04:54] <vicTROLLA> if you're running ubuntu can you show me `which update-motd`
[04:54] <redwarriors25> the localhost network is ok but in accessing website like google cant
[04:56] <TJ-> vicTROLLA: There isn't one. update-motd is done by pam_motd (see man 5 update-motd)
[04:57] <vicTROLLA> odd
[04:57] <vicTROLLA> seems /var/run/motd is correct
[04:58] <vicTROLLA> can I just arbitrarily delete things out of /etc/update-motd.d/
[04:58] <vicTROLLA> ?
[04:59] <ClientAlive> Tj: I'll have to think about that. I've been on these two computers for about the last 6 hrs and getting a bit burnt out for tonight. I appreciate your suggestions and may end up doing that - just it'll have to be tomorrow I think. Peace out for now man. thx
[05:00] <TJ-> ClientAlive: good luck with ti :)
[05:00] <ClientAlive> thx man. have a good night
[05:00] <TJ-> vicTROLLA: Not a great idea because those files are installed by packages. Any update, they'll be reinstated
[05:01] <TJ-> vicTROLLA: Check if there are multiple pam rules causing it: "grep motd /etc/pam.d/*"
[05:02] <vicTROLLA> hrm session    optional   pam_motd.so appears in both login and sshd
[05:02] <TJ-> vicTROLLA: That's correct
[05:03] <rolio> help me ! i'm in danger ! my PC is not started without my pendrive and now my pendrive has been format .
[05:03] <vicTROLLA> it's supposed to appear twice?
[05:04] <TJ-> vicTROLLA: No; "login" and "sshd" should both have entries for pam_motd.so
[05:04] <TJ-> vicTROLLA: What kind of login is causing it? remote, local?
[05:04] <vicTROLLA> remote
[05:04] <vicTROLLA> ssh
[05:05] <TJ-> vicTROLLA: Have any changes been made at any time to the PAM configuration for alternate log-in options?
[05:06] <vicTROLLA> no. Just started happening today. The only thing that was installed today was libssh2-php which should (I would hope it wouldn't anyways) not have anything to do with pam
[05:06] <Damo__> Hey all, could anyone please help me with some C++ programming. It is an assignment, but I am not asking anyone to do it for me. All I want to know is how to make a switch statement that allows characters and integers instead of just one or the other? Could anyone help please?
[05:06] <rolio> can any one help me !
[05:07] <Hayate> what mean with not started with pendrive rolio?
[05:07] <TJ-> Damo__: case 'c':   or case 64;
[05:09] <Damo__> I can't figure out how to pm you back TJ, but tyvm!
[05:10] <TJ-> Damo__: remember that in C/C++ chars are a single byte, and we can specify the ASCII character by surrounding it with single-quote marks
[05:12] <Bennn> Anyone know why Dolphin is not showing .sql files?
[05:12] <wilee-nilee> rolio, If you are in ubuntu now run this command and pastebin the info sudo fdisk -l
[05:13] <osmosis> when I try to do full screen youtube videos, i see the left half of the vid but the rest is off the screen. Any way to fix this?
[05:13] <rolio> wilee-nilee:  i'm not   . Can i paste /etc/fstab of my system
[05:13] <wilee-nilee> rolio, fsatb will not really help I need to know the partitions and what they are.
[05:14] <Damo__> Yeah, I knew about the ASCII chart, but I had no clue how to convert the numbers into what they represented. So its by using single quotations, ty =)
[05:14] <wilee-nilee> rolio, can you boot a live cd or get into the OS?
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> get into means boot to
[05:15] <rolio> wilee-nilee: i have only one partion 320 gb which i have given to ubuntu
[05:15] <rolio> wilee-nilee:  yup ! i'm now on live CD
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> rolio, cool run the command so we can get grub in the mbr sudo fdisk -l
[05:16] <rolio> wilee-nilee:  yes , i'm boot it already and talking you from that oS
[05:16] <Bennn> Anyone know why Dolphin is not showing .sql files?
[05:16] <wilee-nilee> rolio, you on the cd or in the install you are saying both here.
[05:16] <TJ-> vicTROLLA: Changing "PrintMotd yes" in /etc/ssh/sshd_config and restarting the service might help
[05:17] <Hayate> benn, that was hidden?
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> or at least I want to be sure we are communicating
[05:17] <rolio> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1199965/
[05:18] <wilee-nilee> rolio, cool and you are on the live cd now?
[05:18] <rolio> wilee-nilee:  ya ! i'm
[05:19] <drupin> there is a issue with the chrome flash player pepper installed
[05:20] <TJ-> rolio: The problem is, when you installed Ubuntu and the pendrive was inserted, the boot-loader was put on the pendrive not the hard disk. That is fixable; I'm sure someone will tell you how
[05:21] <rolio> TJ-:  i know that .I even try to install bootloader but i failed .I think i have done it with wrong procedure .So, thats why i'm here
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> rolio, http://paste.ubuntu.com/1199973/
[05:22] <theadmin> !recovergrub | rolio, follow this article
[05:22] <theadmin> Bah...
[05:22] <theadmin> !restoregrub | rolio, follow this
[05:23] <wilee-nilee> theadmin, I gave him the non chroot reload of the mbr.
[05:23] <rolio> wilee-nilee: let me try
[05:24] <rolio> wilee-nilee: ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo mount /dev/sda1 mount: can't find /dev/sda1 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[05:24] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: Your instructions are a bit typoed!
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, in line with the grub ,https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstall_from_the_LiveCD
[05:25] <rolio> wilee-nilee:  can't mount /dev/sda1
[05:25] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: mounting "sda" ?
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> tj I missed the mnt at the end of the first command my bad
[05:26] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: It needs  "sudo mkdir -p /mnt/boot" doesn't it?
[05:27] <rolio> wilee-nilee:  what should i need to type in terminal ?
[05:27] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, I am using the commands exactly in the wiki, minus the /mnt by accident persoanally I would chroot, you are more then welcome to do this rather then question my work here. ;)
[05:27] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: I'm pointing out, if rolio is using the liveCD "/mnt/boot" won't exist - it needs creating
[05:28] <XiaolinDraconis> askubuntu.com/questions/186730/chromium-quicklist-profiles-not-working-any-ideas
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, look at the link I posted that line is exact as I posted it from the wiki
[05:28] <rolio> TJ-:  i'm on live persistence pendrive with 2GB swap area
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sdX
[05:30] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: Ahh OK... I see what it's doing now! I'm so used to the convention of putting mount-points in sub-dirs below /mnt/ I didn't realise they're mounting directly onto /mnt/ itself
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> rolio, this is the first command sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> roilio this is the second sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda
[05:30] <rolio> done wilee-nilee
[05:30] <XiaolinDraconis> curious how often trolls come here asking questions they can answer
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> rolio, open the terminal and use commands there, the pastebin I gave you was missing the /mnt at the end by accident
[05:31]  * XiaolinDraconis thinks rolio was just here under the name yuio
[05:31] <rolio> wilee-nilee:  sudo grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/boot /dev/sda   <--------------- /sdaX what is X
[05:31] <rolio> XiaolinDraconis:  yup !
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> TJ-, those grub commands change on occasion hehe I just use supergrub and do this from the desktop myself or chroot.
[05:32] <rolio> XiaolinDraconis: i tried your way , but it can't work in my case
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> rolio, the one line was an example the X=a the hd
[05:32] <TJ-> wilee-nilee: well it confused me also because I always install a separate /boot/ :)
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> rolio, here is the link to the commands if that helps.  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing#Reinstall_from_the_LiveCD
[05:34] <redwarriors25__> any1 here
[05:36] <drupin> the flash player 11.3.31.232 shipped with chrome plays in frames.. so i disabled and use the system flash player 11,2,202,238  .. that plays well....
[05:49] <Bennn> Anyone know why Dolphin is not showing .sql files?
[05:50] <XiaolinDraconis> askubuntu.com/questions/186730/chromium-quicklist-profiles-not-working-any-ideas
[05:52] <adie> Guys, I have a problem
[05:52] <adie> I try to log into my ubuntu, but it kicks me back to the login screen
[05:52] <adie> my guest account logs in fine! I don't know what's wrong :(
[05:54] <drupin> password... if you have adie or caps ..
[05:54] <adie> drupin: it "logs in" fine
[05:54] <adie> if I had the wrong password it would tell me
[05:54] <adie> just wonce it logs in, it instantly goes back to the login screen
[05:55] <adie> sometimes it displays a black screen with text for a split second, but too fast to read :(
[05:55] <adie> all I can read from it is "battery ok" or somthing ><
[05:55] <adie> prolly not relivant to my issue ^_^
[05:58] <drupin> so many users
[05:58] <drupin> gosh
[05:58] <adie> :/
[06:00] <adie> A
[06:10] <jalexandru> hi, anybody heard about F3 key being bind in terminal - using ubuntu 12.04
[06:12] <Bennn> Anyone know why Dolphin is not showing .sql files?
[06:12] <adie> :O
[06:12] <adie> <3
[06:13] <theadmin> Bennn: You mean a file literally called ".sql"? Files starting with a . are hidden.
[06:14] <adie> ^_^
[06:15] <theadmin> adie: Stop this, you're flooding the channel
[06:15] <Bennn> theadmin, right. I mean name.sql files. They simply aren't shoring up. name.sql.gz shows up, but not name.sql. It's visible in the terminal with ls command, but not in Dolphin.
[06:16] <Bennn> ctrl+. shows files starting with a '.'
[06:16] <theadmin> Bennn: That's entirely weird... I can see a file called "test.sql" here just fine
[06:17] <Bennn> theadmin, you're right. The problem was 'weird'. I restarted Dolphin, now .sql files appear.  *sigh*
[06:17] <drupin> lol he is putting images
[06:17] <aharoni> Hallo. I'm trying to report a bug in Launchpad.
[06:19] <aharoni> When I press  "Report a bug" in Launchpad, I get to a page with Bug Reporting documentation - https://launchpad.net/ubuntu . But how do I get to the actual bug reporting form?
[06:19] <PoitSucka> Hi everyone! I'm looking into a new system but my favorite site to get ubuntu-friendly hardware (pricewatch.com) looks like it's just a domain squatter now.
[06:19] <PoitSucka> Where do you all shop for hardware?
[06:20] <theadmin> aharoni: You read the documentation... It has a link and instructions on what you should be using instead of that link (because other methods will give you more details)
[06:20] <PoitSucka> I'm looking for something that lets me pick my individual components and has lots of alternatives (like my beloved, deceased pricewatch)
[06:20] <PoitSucka> If you've got something you've been satisfied with I'd love to hear! I know there are alternatives I'm missing.
[06:21] <cfhjhdfc> Good morning...
[06:22] <PoitSucka> Good morning cfhjhdfc
[06:22] <PoitSucka> What can I do for ya?
[06:23] <drupin> is the local purge a default program
[06:23] <pagz> how do i change grub settings fresh install of ubuntu i want to swap the defult os selection from ubuntu to win 7
[06:24] <lotuspsychje> pagz: sudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[06:27] <aharoni> theadmin, really? there's no wasy to ust open the bug reporting form?
[06:27] <PoitSucka> pagz: The GRUB_DEFAULT setting in /etc/default/grub that lotuspsychje mentioned is what you want to edit.
[06:27] <pagz> thanks
[06:27] <PoitSucka> Sure thing pagz - if it doesn't work or if you have any trouble come on back and let us know
[06:28] <aharoni> theadmin,  I run ubuntu-bug , I select "other problem", and then I get the message: "You need to specify a package or a PID. See --help for more information."
[06:28] <pagz> i did try and google this... must of had old guides tho was telling me to edit files not found on the system
[06:28] <PoitSucka> pagz:  not your fault
[06:28] <theadmin> aharoni: Correct, you need to specify *where* the bug is (e.g. by calling ubuntu-bug with "ubuntu-bug firefox")
[06:28] <PoitSucka> You probably found a bunch of tutorials for the first grub
[06:29] <zsolt> hi there.trying to make deb packages,with dpkg-buildpackage but it makes only the docs
[06:29] <PoitSucka> pagz: Grub went under a bunch of changes when they switched to grub2
[06:30] <PoitSucka> So now there are search results for grub configuration chilling all around the Internet for grub1 that aren't helpful at all for people using grub2.
[06:30] <PoitSucka> It's confusing. Not your fault.
[06:31] <aharoni> theadmin, the docs say: "If you're not sure which package is affected by the bug, type ubuntu-bug in the "Run Application" window and click Run. This will guide you through a series of questions to gather more information about the bug."
[06:31] <aharoni> but It gives me an error instead of guiding me.
[06:32] <theadmin> aharoni: Hm, the guide must be outdated. Either way, if you're not sure which package is affected, why not find out? What *is* the bug?
[06:34] <aharoni> theadmin, like https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-meta/+bug/517092 , but for the Burmese alphabet.
[06:34] <aharoni> or should I report it under ubuntu-meta?
[06:35] <theadmin> aharoni: Yeah, that'd be a good idea... Also, shipping all fonts around is something that might never happen. Though, since Quantal the only way to install Ubuntu will be a DVD so they may fit more data in...
[06:36] <aharoni> theadmin,  not shipping all fonts, but shipping at least one font per every script is quite reasonable this days.
[06:36] <theadmin> aharoni: Hm... Well, I do agree
[06:37]  * theadmin proceeds to invent her own script :P
[06:37] <theadmin> [/offtopic]
[06:38] <aharoni> theadmin, if I try `ubuntu-bug ubuntu-meta', I get this error: "Package ubuntu-meta does not exist"
[06:38] <theadmin> aharoni: Hm... Eh... Give me a second.
[06:39] <d3f4c3d> hei guyz
[06:39] <N03L> d3f4c3d: hello
[06:39] <d3f4c3d> any1 knows what is this
[06:39] <d3f4c3d> error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.4
[06:40] <theadmin> aharoni: I don't seem to be able to find any "Burmese" fonts in the repos at all
[06:40] <theadmin> d3f4c3d: This is an error while loading a shared library which you don't have installed.
[06:40] <aharoni> theadmin, maybe Myanmar?
[06:40] <aharoni> It's a different name for the same language.
[06:41] <Zombie> Hi.
[06:41] <Zombie> I just upgraded from 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS.
[06:41] <d3f4c3d> i'm on ubuntu x64 3.2.0-31-generic
[06:41] <theadmin> aharoni: Not finding anything either... Anyway, I'd say report it as a bug to xfs, that's the closest I can get to it
[06:41] <d3f4c3d> how can i get that library
[06:41] <Zombie> I need to ask:
[06:41] <theadmin> !find libcrypto.so.4
[06:42] <Hellog> HOW TO : Please help in finding bt5 r2 repo for ubuntu 12.04 32 bit
[06:42] <Zombie> What is the best proceedure to see of Intel GMA Support is working?
[06:42] <theadmin> Hellog: Third-party distributions and repositories are not supported here.
[06:42] <d3f4c3d> is there a way to get libcrypto.so.4 working
[06:43] <Hellog> theadmin: so, where i go ?
[06:43] <theadmin> d3f4c3d: That library doesn't seem to exist in Precise. Are you using some way old app?
[06:43] <d3f4c3d> not way old but
[06:43] <d3f4c3d> old i guess :(
[06:43] <d3f4c3d> it's cisco IOS labs basically
[06:43] <d3f4c3d> for training
[06:43] <theadmin> Hellog: Nowhere -- if you're trying to use something that's not officially supported by Ubuntu, you're on your own. Might ask in #ubuntu-offtopic but idk how much help will that be.
[06:44] <d3f4c3d> ../wrapper-linux: error while loading shared libraries: libcrypto.so.4: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[06:44] <PoitSucka> Zombie: a good indicator - "lsmod | grep i915"
[06:44] <theadmin> d3f4c3d: libcrypto.so appears to be provided by libssl, but that's not the version it wants
[06:44] <theadmin> Hellog: Might ask in #backtrack-linux too
[06:45] <d3f4c3d> so i should update ios version ? because i dont think its possible :(
[06:45] <d3f4c3d> if i install old version of ubuntu will it work ?
[06:45] <d3f4c3d> sad face lol
[06:46] <PoitSucka> Hellog: What theadmin may have meant to say is check #backtrack, or see if you can find a link in the backtrack forums.
[06:47] <PoitSucka> nvm, he did suggest it, I was just too late
[06:47] <PoitSucka> gj, theadmin
[06:47] <PoitSucka> For a sec I thought you were being a bit frumpy - you proved me wrong.
[06:47] <theadmin> PoitSucka: I might have been a bit rude indeed
[06:47] <PoitSucka> You totally anti-rtfm'd.
[06:48] <PoitSucka> You actually Ubuntu'd it. Awesome.
[06:48] <russian_> sucka )
[06:48] <Zombie> PoitSucka: Will do. See, my laptop is running glxgears at  300 fps/
[06:48] <Eagleman> Why is ubuntu hanging on every reboot:  Waiting for network configuration...   network file: http://pastebin.com/DdsLLHBz
[06:49] <PoitSucka> d3f4c3d:  an old version may work. Some googling may help. Try goolging for repo packages for a version, rather than goolging for others that have the same problem
[06:50] <d3f4c3d> thnx but i had enough of anal for today ;) will restart tomorrow
[06:50] <PoitSucka> d3f4c3d: your problem may be a bit rare, so you're probably better off looking for a package that exists with that library. Start by searching for that library with its name and version
[06:50] <PoitSucka> Then if you find an index of a repo with that library, try to search for the specific package name listed there.
[06:51] <PoitSucka> Good luck d3f4c3d. I hope it works out for you
[06:51] <d3f4c3d> lol bro i have no idea what u said :) but thanks !
[06:51] <PoitSucka> Haven't dealt with that stuff myself or I'd have better advice for you
[06:51] <PoitSucka> d3f4c3d: feel free to PM me.
[06:51] <PoitSucka> I'll be unreachable during 8-7 PM PST
[06:52] <PoitSucka> but I'll get back to you for sure
[06:52] <d3f4c3d> k
[06:53] <Eagleman> Why is ubuntu hanging on every reboot, it will take about 3 minutes to boot succesfully:  Waiting for network configuration...   network file: http://pastebin.com/DdsLLHBz
[06:54] <student> fuck
[06:54] <russian_> what?
[06:54] <IdleOne> !language | student
[06:55] <russian_> !ping
[06:55] <russian_> !help
[06:56] <Zombie> PoitSucka: Can confirm.
[06:56] <fidel> russian_: need any help?
[06:56] <Zombie> PoitSucka: Can confirm. i915 is running.
[06:56] <russian_> no
[06:56] <Zombie> What else should I check?
[06:57] <student> china  PK japan  ,who winner?
[06:58] <fidel> !ot > student
[06:59] <PoitSucka> Zombie: shoot, I'm sorry but I haven't had an Intel machine behave poorly for a while
[06:59] <Jak_Atackka> Hello! Can anyone help me with my sound problem? I can't get any audio to come out through my headphones
[07:00] <student> ddd
[07:00] <PoitSucka> Zombie: and I've run all three chipsets in the last few years, so I've had to learn AMD, Nvidia, and Intel quirks.. needless to say it gets lost at some point.
[07:00] <PoitSucka> Zombie: You may be left at googling from here if somebody else can't chime in.
[07:03] <d3f4c3d> oddly i have /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.4
[07:03] <d3f4c3d> /lib/libcrypto.so.4
[07:03] <d3f4c3d>  present
[07:04] <clu3> hi guys, i wanna add folder shortcut to the left of the file browser but it seems imposible, any help pls?
[07:05] <[deXter]> clu3, Press Ctrl+D in your folder
[07:05] <theadmin> clu3: Add it to bookmarks
[07:05] <clu3> oh thanks guys, i was just trying to drag and drop the folder and was hopeless
[07:10] <PoitSucka> d3f4c3d: is it built for your architecture?
[07:10] <PoitSucka> Perhaps if it was built for 64 instead of 32 that could do it.
[07:10] <d3f4c3d> u mean opposite
[07:10] <d3f4c3d> built for 32 and i run 64
[07:10] <theadmin> d3f4c3d: That's your problem
[07:10] <d3f4c3d> could be
[07:11] <PoitSucka> I didn't mean the opposite, I meant the principle
[07:11] <d3f4c3d> its just so specific theres so little information on IOS
[07:11] <theadmin> d3f4c3d: Try doing a "sudo apt-get install libssl:i386"
[07:11] <PoitSucka> As in, perhaps you have an X bit binary trying to load a Y bit lib
[07:12] <PoitSucka> Doesn't matter if X > Y or X < y, the point is if X != Y you often get huuuuuuge problems.
[07:12] <Eagleman> Why is ubuntu hanging on every reboot, it will take about 3 minutes to boot succesfully:  Waiting for network configuration...   network file: http://pastebin.com/DdsLLHBz
[07:13] <theadmin> Eagleman: This might sound ridiculous and unrelated, but do you have an ATI/AMD graphics card?
[07:13] <d3f4c3d> Package libssl:i386 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:13] <d3f4c3d> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:13] <d3f4c3d> is only available from another source
[07:13] <d3f4c3d> another words nope
[07:15] <Eagleman> theadmin no its a server
[07:15] <theadmin> Eagleman: Hm, okay then... Not sure.
[07:16] <anzul> my bluetooth used to work in live mode... but doesn't work after installation
[07:17] <silverarrow> can someone do me a favor ? Run update manager just to check if server is up?
[07:17] <theadmin> anzul: The livecd includes some more drivers than the end install, open "Hardware Drivers" and you'll find it there
[07:17] <theadmin> silverarrow: wfm
[07:18] <theadmin> silverarrow: You might be using a different mirror than me though, mine is "mirror.yandex.ru"
[07:18]  * silverarrow wonders if theadmin just gave him a snarky remark
[07:18] <silverarrow> wfm?
[07:18] <theadmin> silverarrow: "wfm" = "works for me", sorry
[07:18] <silverarrow> lol
[07:18] <silverarrow> ;- )
[07:19] <silverarrow> theadmin, thanks though
[07:19] <silverarrow> theadmin, I might have some update manager issues
[07:20] <d3f4c3d> if I revert to 12.0 will it fix this crappy libcrypt.so.4 thing ?
[07:20] <theadmin> silverarrow: You can run "gksudo software-properties-gtk" (or "kdesudo software-properties-kde" on Kubuntu) and there's a "Find fastest mirror" button in Download From: -> Other, use that
[07:20] <bekks> d3f4c3d: There is no way to revert besides a reinstallation.
[07:21] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer and screen corruption, every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed(nomodeset fixes this but compiz is unworkable)
[07:22] <lasher> having trouble creating a USB startup disk of 12.04. I have tried unetbootin and startup creator but get no OS booting up, just text on the screen and it says Boot: . I am currently using 10.04.
[07:22] <silverarrow> theadmin, I am in lubuntu
[07:22] <theadmin> lasher: It says "boot:"? Try pressing Enter.
[07:22] <theadmin> silverarrow: Then it should be the first one
[07:22] <Eagleman> Why is ubuntu hanging on every reboot, it will take about 3 minutes to boot succesfully:  Waiting for network configuration...   network file: http://pastebin.com/DdsLLHBz
[07:22] <theadmin> silverarrow: The -gtk
[07:22] <silverarrow> thanks
[07:22] <lasher> theadmin: yep, done that nothing happens
[07:23] <lasher> no flashing on the usb either
[07:25] <silverarrow> theadmin, it crashed on me
[07:26] <anzul> where do i find the "hardware drivers" ?
[07:26] <theadmin> anzul: You can run "gksudo jockey-gtk" in a Terminal, or look for that in the menu
[07:26] <anzul> thanks theadmin... trying
[07:27] <silverarrow> theadmin, message I get is Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/pool/main/n/ntfs-3g/ntfs-3g_2012.1.15AR.1-1ubuntu1.1_powerpc.deb 404  Not Found
[07:27] <lowkey33> anyone have any luck with xscreensaver in ubuntu 12.04
[07:27] <lotuspsychje> !info xscreensaver | lowkey33
[07:27] <fidel> funky issue here on 12.04- i am using the application: autokey. i do know it is running already - but i cant see its tray icon in gnome3 - which works usualy. so any idea how i might be able to access its gui without seeing its tray-icon which is usualy the way to access it?
[07:27] <theadmin> silverarrow: powerpc?... Um... I don't think PowerPC is supported anymore, what Ubuntu version are you on?
[07:27] <anzul> no drivers in use
[07:28] <anzul> this is what i'm getting
[07:28] <auronandace> !ppc
[07:28] <lowkey33> ok thanks
[07:28] <silverarrow> theadmin, lubuntu 12.04, it has worked fine upuntil today, well a few days since last update
[07:28] <lotuspsychje> howto fix a corrupt square mouse pointer and screen corruption, every cold boot on precise 12.04.1 clean installed(nomodeset fixes this but compiz is unworkable)
[07:29] <anzul> how to get additional drivers available in live mode ?
[07:29] <hod> hi room, i was wondering is there  away to disable my touchpad mouse input for ubuntu 12.04
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> anzul:maybe describe what driver you are looking for, for what hardware wont work
[07:29] <anzul> my bluetooth is not working in installed mode
[07:29] <silverarrow> auronandace, why did you do that?
[07:29] <theadmin> silverarrow: Hm, odd
[07:29] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:he's helping you
[07:29] <theadmin> Anyway I have to be going
[07:30] <anzul> it worked in live mode
[07:30] <ydbondt> small question, I'm running btrfs on ubuntu 12.04. It is loaded as a module here, which gives me slow startup times. Does someone knows if btrfs is also loaded in the kernel somehow ?
[07:30] <silverarrow> well, yes, I see, but I felt I didn`t get the point
[07:30] <Jordan_U> ydbondt: I doubt that btrfs being loaded as a module has any measurable effect on your boot time.
[07:31] <lasher> I just installed qemu and the usb menu works wth?
[07:31] <ydbondt> I think it does. See here: http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-btrfs/msg16387.html
[07:31] <silverarrow> theadmin should I worry or is it a server thing?
[07:31] <lotuspsychje> silverarrow:the admin left
[07:31] <madjoe> How to resolve an issue with an apt-get install issue "Package 'X' has no installation candidate"? More details: http://bit.ly/SavZGq
[07:31] <hod> hi room i have a question for ubuntu 12.04 is there a way to disable the touchpad mouse input?
[07:32] <silverarrow> lowkey33, it has worked fin up until the last few days
[07:32] <silverarrow> lotuspsychje, oh, I see
[07:32] <lowkey33> i read a few things about problems with it
[07:34] <ydbondt> Jordan_U: it takes about 9 seconds to load btrfs :/ Is this normal ?
[07:34] <Jordan_U> ydbondt: Btrfs is still in development and you should really be using the latest kernel, at least 3.5.3 if not 3.6-rc5, if you want to use btrfs.
[07:34] <ydbondt> hmm
[07:34] <silverarrow> how do I do updates in terminal?
[07:34] <fidel> silverarrow: used to apt?
[07:34] <ydbondt> auch, I'm using 3.2.0-27
[07:34] <silverarrow> fidel, well I can type in apt-get updates?
[07:35] <Jordan_U> ydbondt: Note that upgrading to a newer kernel might cause instability in other areas, but that's something you have to accept if you want to use experimental features.
[07:35] <silverarrow> fidel, though I mostly use update manger from menu
[07:35] <lowkey33> night room
[07:35] <ydbondt> true :)
[07:35] <Dayofswords> silverarrow: What I do is   sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[07:35] <fidel> silverarrow: regarding your question: 'apt' is the basic cmd to update packages from cli
[07:35] <ydbondt> thnx, I'll try to switch kernels later :)
[07:36] <hod> still none can help me????????????
[07:36] <Jordan_U> ydbondt: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.6-rc5-quantal/
[07:36] <lotuspsychje> !patience | hod
[07:37] <gordonjcp> !help | hod
[07:37] <Jordan_U> ydbondt: You're welcome.
[07:38] <ninjo> Hello
[07:38] <silverarrow> Dayofswords, fidel, day`s command works !!
[07:38] <ninjo> i have a little problem on my ubuntu, i am total newbie, so if someone would help i would be really happy: When i run anyfile i get: permission denied. How to fix that?
[07:39] <silverarrow> I get new firefox
[07:39] <silverarrow> been waiting for 15.01
[07:39] <lotuspsychje> ninjo: try running files with sudo in front of it
[07:39] <silverarrow> my update manager is mucked up fidel ?
[07:39] <LorSamPau_w> !sudo | ninjo
[07:39] <bekks> ninjo: So which file in particular do you want to run?
[07:39] <LorSamPau_w> just as i thought
[07:40] <bekks> LorSamPau_w: sudo without knowing what he wants to do is sometimes not the best idea :)
[07:40] <ninjo> bekks, psybnc :)
[07:40] <LorSamPau_w> bekks, i'm so lazy today
[07:40] <bekks> DO NOT run it as root. Never. Dont do it.
[07:41] <silverarrow> Dayofswords, I have to write down your command
[07:41] <ninjo> Even if i run it as a user, i still get the same error, but not only psybnc, anything else i want to execute with ./
[07:41] <silverarrow> a bit worrying about my update manager though ?
[07:41] <ninjo> I think its some permissions mixed up
[07:41] <bekks> ninjo: Are you in the directory where the file "psybnc" is located?
[07:42] <ninjo> yea ofcourse :)
[07:42] <lotuspsychje> !chmod | ninjo
[07:42] <bekks> ninjo: And which permissions does that file have currently?
[07:42] <ninjo> 777
[07:42] <ninjo> everything :D
[07:42] <bekks> 777 is far to much. 755 is more than enough.
[07:42] <ninjo> Still, nothing wants to execute
[07:42] <ninjo> not only psybnc, if you know what i mean
[07:43] <bekks> ninjo: Then provide the exact, detailed error message.
[07:43] <nathandim> can someone suggest a good alternative for adobe reader? one that preferably recalls the last page that you had open
[07:43] <ninjo> ]#./kurwa
[07:43] <ninjo> -bash: ./kurwa: Permission denied
[07:43] <bekks> Then "kurwa" does not have execution permissions.
[07:43] <ninjo> i have compiled a simple script, gave it permissions, and i cant execute it
[07:43] <ydbondt> Jordan_U: do you think it is safe to use a quantal kernel for precise ?
[07:43] <lotuspsychje> nathanim:libreoffice reads pdf by default on ubuntu
[07:44] <bekks> ninjo: Whats the output of ls -lha on that file.
[07:44] <ninjo> Listen bekks, everything i want to run i get the same error, its not something with the "kurwa" file but in general with my unbut :S
[07:44] <ninjo> t)]#ls -lha kurwa
[07:44] <ninjo> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 28K Aug 22 10:40 kurwa
[07:45] <Jordan_U> ydbondt: I think it's "safe" in that I don't expect it to cause any data loss or breakage which can't be fixed by booting into an older kernel, but it may not be stable.
[07:45] <student> ca
[07:45] <deathtap> Hello
[07:46] <student> Hello
[07:46] <deathtap> I need some help
[07:47] <student> WHAT
[07:47] <susundbe1g> !ask > deathtap
[07:47] <deathtap> ok
[07:47] <ydbondt> Jordan_U: ok thnx
[07:48] <Jordan_U> ydbondt: You're welcome.
[07:48] <nathandim> thank you lotuspsychje I'll check it out
[07:48] <deathtap> I've downloaded and installed Ubuntu server 12.4, but when I tried to install Drupal, it says that php5-gd is missing. Because of a proxy issue, I cannot use the apt-get command. I've downloaded the rpm file manually and it is on the server at the moment. How do I install or get it compiled?
[07:50] <somsip> deathtap: probably best if you get the deb not the rpm
[07:50] <tsimpson> !offline | deathtap, try one of these
[07:51] <Eagleman> Why is ubuntu hanging on every reboot, it will take about 3 minutes to boot succesfully:  Waiting for network configuration...   network file: http://pastebin.com/DdsLLHBz
[07:51] <madjoe> How to resolve an issue with an apt-get install "Package 'X' has no installation candidate"? More details: http://bit.ly/RGxlOj
[07:52] <AdvoWork> I have a virtual machine, running ubuntu 12.04 server, and have a few cifs and nfs mounts in /etc/fstab. These work fine, but I rebooted all VM's yesterday, and even though they boot in order, the ubuntu server must have come up before the file server(therefore the VM didnt boot due to mount errors). Is there anything I can do?
[07:52] <oren_> Hey guys, quick question regarding my webcam in Ubuntu: I have a logitech webcam and it works just fine but I can't adjust its settings in anything (color, brightness, etc..), for example in skype my webcam is quite dark so is there any way to alter the webcam settings? (In Windows theres obviously a logitech program for doing so but in Ubuntu I see no way in doing this)
[07:55] <lotuspsychje> oren_:i think you can adjust stuff in skype too
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> oren_:try cheese for special effects
[07:56] <tailf> is there any way to partition unused diskspace of an existing ext4 ubuntu partition? i have a feeling there isnt
[07:56] <oren_> yeah cheese I can adjust stuff for special effects but it doesn't actually stay outside of cheese
[07:56] <lotuspsychje> !info gparted | tailf
[07:56] <oren_> and I have found no way to adjust stuff in skype
[07:56] <tailf> thanks
[07:57] <somsip> oren_: In Skype -> Options -> Video there is a 'Disable Auto Exposure' checkbox which casues darker video. Any good?
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> oren_:i think webcam adjusting depends on the software you using
[07:57] <oren_> What software in Ubuntu can I use to alter webcam settings?
[07:57] <somsip> oren_: though thats v4.0.0.8 from Skype downloads, not from the repo
[07:57] <lotuspsychje> oren_:for the best webcam/screen recorder try kazam (#kazam)
[07:58] <oren_> alright, I'll try that lotus
[07:58] <yulio> how to open every executable application in terminal as root by default
[07:58] <lotuspsychje> yulio: i dont think thats a good idea
[07:58] <oren_> somsip: are you saying the linux-skype on their website is more up-to-date than the one in the repo?
[07:59] <somsip> oren_: Last I checked, the repo was at an older version
[07:59] <yulio> lotuspsychje:  but , my situation demand me to do that
[07:59] <lotuspsychje> yulio:can you tell us whats the purpose for that?
[07:59] <oren_> hmm the one I'm using is 4.0.0.8 and it has no disable auto-exposure
[07:59] <oren_> oh wait no
[07:59] <oren_> it does
[07:59] <deathtap> Another server on our network has Squid installed. It uses some form of authentication. The Network Administrator is in the hospital because of personal problems, and is unable to be contacted. If we can get the apt-get command to get through the proxy server, we cam use the apt-get install command. We know the password and username, and used the export http_proxy= command, but it is not working.
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> yulio: you could make your own startup icons with commands, sudo in front
[08:00] <oren_> I'd like to alter other settings as well though, like color, etc...
[08:00] <somsip> oren_: dunno about that.
[08:00] <yulio> lotuspsychje: i just install bt r2 tool in ubuntu , but they need to be executed as root
[08:00] <oren_> lotuspsychje: apparently kazam is just a screencapture thing
[08:00] <lotuspsychje> oren_:yes one of the best
[08:00] <oren_> it's not what I'm looking for
[08:00] <oren_> I just want to alter my webcam settings
[08:01] <lotuspsychje> oren_:try what somsip sugested you in skype
[08:01] <somsip> oren_: you want to load some sort of logitech.conf that affects anything that uses the webcam during a session? Sorry, don't know of that
[08:01] <oren_> In Windows I can easily just go into the logitech quickcam program and change settings
[08:02] <oren_> why is there no program in Ubuntu for stuff like this?
[08:02] <lotuspsychje> oren_:quickcam is also software, so you need always an ubuntu package
[08:02] <oren_> yeah ... but what package?
[08:03] <oren_> what ubuntu software can accomplish this?
[08:04] <lotuspsychje> oren_:maybe this can help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Webcam
[08:05] <lotuspsychje> brb
[08:06] <oren_> yeah I've read this, it pretty much says I have to buy a new webcam or do a bunch of complicated stuff I have no idea how to do
[08:06] <deathtap> Okay, thanks for the help!
[08:07] <deathtap> Got it working
[08:07] <deathtap> I'll be back if I have anymore issues
[08:13] <nokia> hi. Is there a setting to let me watch laptop on my TV . That lets me close the laptop lid and still view output on the TV
[08:15] <lotuspsychje> oren_:here's a list of webcam packages https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+question/51931
[08:15] <oren_> thanks, I'll take a look
[08:16] <lotuspsychje> nokia:maybe if you can make the laptop not goto sleep when lid closes, your hdmi cable can still output to tv?
[08:16] <billc> lotus u can in widows
[08:17] <billc> windows
[08:17] <lotuspsychje> billc: i know but nokia asks for ubuntu..
[08:17] <nokia> lotuspsychje it works fine if lid stays up
[08:18] <lotuspsychje> nokia:you will have to play with energy settings mate
[08:18] <billc> use power settings in ubuntu
[08:19] <lotuspsychje> nokia:maybe this can help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1307857
[08:19] <icesword> can i use external keyboard  with a laptop?
[08:19] <oren_> Excuse my ignorance, but how do I install a .tar.gz file? I mean when I open it it's just a bunch of code documents or whatever.
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> !tarball | oren_
[08:20] <lotuspsychje> brb guys
[08:21] <oren_> !compile
[08:21] <LorSamPau_w> oren_, it usually conteins some txt files with the instruction on how to compile
[08:21] <icesword> that's shit
[08:21] <geirha> oren_: installing from a tar.gz file should be the absolute last resort
[08:22] <icesword> use a command  to install
[08:24] <icesword> it's like ./ the exe file
[08:25] <Dayofswords> oren_: what is the .tar.gz of?
[08:25] <oren_> it has a file called "install" in the folder but it doesn't do anything. I've even executed it as a program but the terminal just flashes up for a second and nothing happens
[08:25] <oren_> it s gqcam-0.9
[08:26] <kallepersson> What is the easiest way to prevent my Ubuntu machine from launching gmd and just presenting me with a log in shell instead
[08:26] <kallepersson> Turning an old desktop into a server and don't want gdm started
[08:26] <fidel> kallepersson: if you dont want / need gdm - remove it ;)
[08:27] <kallepersson> I *might* need it later ;)
[08:27] <kallepersson> Any way to just disable it
[08:27] <Exposure> you can use update-rc.d to remove it
[08:27] <Dayofswords> oren_: The standard way to compile is   ./configure; make            if you want to install that to the system do     make install    but i'm not sure how make install function
[08:27] <kallepersson> THX!
[08:28] <oren_> Dayofswords: I have no idea what that all means, I'm a real rookie with linux. Do you mean go to the terminal and just type that stuff or...?
[08:31] <icesword> yes
[08:31] <Dayofswords> oren_: in the terminal go to the folder(using cd /path/to/gqcam-0.9) and do   "./configure" without the quotes. chances are you'll hit some errors though so try that for now
[08:31] <oren_> oh okay
[08:31] <oren_> will do
[08:32] <icesword> execute command ./ the executable file
[08:32] <oren_> nothing
[08:33] <oren_> hmm wait a moment
[08:34] <icesword> stupid thing, double the install file gives  you a txt from a  win users view
[08:34] <oren_> I do cd /home/gqcam/ but it says no such file or directory
[08:34] <oren_> when there obviously is
[08:34] <oren_> am i doing something wrong?
[08:34] <silverarrow> is there a channel for Totem player?
[08:35] <Dayofswords> oren_: where is the file? in your home folder?
[08:35] <oren_> the file is in /home/gqcam
[08:36] <oren_> but I can't get into that folder via the terminal
[08:36] <LorSamPau_w> isn't it a /home/user/gqcam ?
[08:36] <oren_> oh okay I'll try that
[08:36] <oren_> ah there we go
[08:36] <Dayofswords> oren_: cant be, /home/ is for user folders, it has to be within it
[08:36] <oren_> thanks LorSamPau_w
[08:36] <LorSamPau_w> =)
[08:36] <LorSamPau_w> np
[08:37] <icesword> did you try to right click the executable file?
[08:37] <oren_> yeah I di
[08:37] <oren_> d
[08:38] <icesword> what's the choice
[08:38] <oren_> when I right click?
[08:38] <icesword> is there a run as admin ?
[08:39] <oren_> no
[08:39] <oren_> I am the only user and I guess that would make me the admin
[08:39] <icesword> maybe  you chose the wrong one
[08:39] <oren_> wrong what?
[08:40] <icesword> wrong file
[08:40] <oren_> it says in capitals INSTALL
[08:41] <francesco_> Hello, I have been here yesterday too. I am planning to install LXDE on my pc, where I have Ubuntu installed. I am afraid, what happens if I want to come back to Gnome again?
[08:41] <somsip> oren_: normally that is the instructions on how to install, not an executable
[08:41] <oren_> hmm okay
[08:41] <oren_> yeah it's a text file thingo
[08:41] <icesword> the executable file  usually be something.sh, something like that
[08:41] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, no problem at all. as you login there will be gnome and lxde
[08:42] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, just don't delete gnome packages
[08:43] <oren_> probably a newbie question here but why on earth is it often so difficult to install a simple program in Ubuntu with all this compiling?
[08:43] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, is there the possibility to stop login asking me which interface I want to use? And if it is possible, what if I want to come back to Gnome?
[08:43] <oren_> why don't people make simple install executives or something
[08:43] <bekks> francesco_: Dont use autologim and you can always change your session befor login in.
[08:44] <icesword> so you fix it? oren?
[08:45] <skraito> hi guys
[08:45] <skraito> hi kid
[08:45] <oren_> no, I didn't fix it
[08:45] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, by default login-screen doesn't show up... just install lxde, then you logout and choose lxde. next time you turn on your pc it wiil load up the lxde, and if you want to change it to gnome again - just logout and choose gnome )
[08:45] <skraito> how are ya
[08:45] <oren_> I can't install this thing at all
[08:45] <oren_> apparently it requires a bunch of other files
[08:45] <pcbsdl1> skraito: You ok yo ?
[08:45] <oren_> not included in the tar for whatever reason
[08:45] <icesword> so what is that file?
[08:46] <tehpwnz> hey, anyone running Ubuntu on a Macbook pro late 2011 without any issues? can you help me with the install details and what you did to make it work? im bored with OS X eh
[08:46] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, do you mean that when I log in I can choose multiple interfaces from a menu?
[08:46] <Kartagis> !find sysfs
[08:46] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, yes
[08:46] <gordonjcp> tehpwnz: I'm running it on an older macbook
[08:47] <gordonjcp> tehpwnz: refit makes life easy
[08:47] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1uvXhmQZ5Ic/TzW7sfOJB3I/AAAAAAAAHuk/1NSdl4NJVZM/s1600/gnome-classic-login-screen.png
[08:47] <parapan> Hi fellows > big problem I have; I've installed arping which uninstalled network manager applet I had no internet connection; I edited the /etc/network/interfaces by hand , introducing eth0 as a device with manual IP's , after that I've installed network manager again from Synaptic ..but still, the network manager does not show in the status bar and even if it's showing (when wireless network is detected) for the wired connection is 
[08:47] <tehpwnz> gordonjcp, it works okay? you havent had any issues?
[08:48] <arand> oren_: Because the idea is you normally don't install from source, but from repositories instead.
[08:48] <bekks> parapan: As long as you configured eth0 in /etc/network/interfaces, NM will NOT pick it up.
[08:48] <bekks> Undo that change, and configure a static IP in NM, and it will work.
[08:49] <oren_> arand: why?
[08:49] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, let me tell you the whole story. I don't know if this is the proper channel to ask. I have an old PC (Pentium IV) and I have notices that it become very slow after updates. Someone suggested me that could be the interface (Gnome) that is getting heavier for my PC. He suggested me to install Lubuntu, or just LXDE on my version of Ubuntu. What do you think? Should I install Lubuntu?
[08:49] <oren_> seems kind of counter-intuitive
[08:50] <Noodels> francesco_: I would.
[08:50] <parapan> bekks > look, after re-installing the network manager, I will delete all modifications made to "interfaces" file .....actually the only line there suppose to be  ....auto lo ......but, I think I've done that and then I lost the network again ....
[08:51] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, you should... it's not bad, looks nice, will work faster definitely
[08:51] <parapan> bekks: and still the network manager was not working ......
[08:52] <skraito> hey pcbdl
[08:52] <skraito> i am okay how about you
[08:52] <skraito> awww guys
[08:52] <arand> oren_: Because it's more convenient.
[08:52] <parapan> bekks: also, when I try to start nm-applet I receive the error "Couldn't initialize the D-Bus manager. "
[08:52] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, But I am afraid of loosing my data. My problem is that I already have a double partition with Windows Vista, and Ubuntu on my PC. How can I delete Ubuntu without touching Windows?
[08:54] <parapan> bekks: are you still here ????
[08:55] <oren_> arand: how on earth is this any more convenient than a single install file executable?
[08:55] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, it can be done, but it's very complicated, if i was in your shoes - i'll backup all that i need and format the disk - then install windows(if you really need it) and then lubuntu
[08:56] <Costeelation> hi guys, regards :D ... i have a problem with the conection... any app can connect :/
[08:57] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, I will need Windows for sure for some work that I have to do as student at University. They use applications only for Windows.
[08:57] <Zombie> francesco_: I may be able to help.
[08:57] <icesword> then how you get on irc?
[08:57] <arand> oren_: Because packages in repos are prepared to integrate correctly into the system, and the most convenient way for maintainers to create packages is by having a clean source-only tarball.
[08:57] <Zombie> francesco_: If you don't mind KDE, KDE exists as a meta-package.
[08:58] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, backup the the needed data, install win first, lubuntu - second
[08:58] <skraito> hi alllllll
[08:58] <skraito> awwwwwwwwww
[08:58] <skraito> awwwwwwwwwww
[08:58] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, one more thing, please. Last night I tried to install lxde on my Ubuntu. I tried "sudo apt-get install lxde", and "sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop", but both didn't work. It said something like "impossible to install", or "package not found". What does it mean?
[08:58] <icesword> ?
[08:58] <skraito> i need some people here anyone
[08:58] <Costeelation> icesword: i dont know but i cant conect with fpt, lightreader, facebook app desktop,
[08:58] <Zombie> francesco_: You can replace Ubuntu 12.04 sources with Kubuntu
[08:58] <Zombie> francesco_: You can replace Ubuntu 12.04 sources with Kubuntu 12.,04
[08:59] <Zombie> francesco_: You have to replace the sources list.
[08:59] <francesco_> Zombie, I have been told that X is much lither than Gnome, I know.
[08:59] <skraito> hi
[08:59] <skraito> anyone want this script
[08:59] <tsimpson> Zombie: you don't have to replace any sources to have Kubuntu
[08:59] <francesco_> I already did. Perhaps, there is still something missing from the list.
[09:00] <skraito> get this ubuntu script
[09:00] <skraito> http://0x71.org/?p=611
[09:00] <arak90> !list
[09:00] <Costeelation> it is as if a firewall blocked all but I have disabled the gufw icesword
[09:00] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, well,i don't know... tru sudo apt-get update first... may be lxde isn't exist on your repositories
[09:00] <Costeelation> any idea ?
[09:00] <tsimpson> skraito: don't post random things in here
[09:01] <Zombie> francesco_: Gnome is an X application.
[09:01] <Zombie> francesco_: KDE is an X application.
[09:01] <skraito> thats not random
[09:01] <Zombie> francesco_: LXDE is an X application.
[09:01] <vkas> does anyone know a good .bashrc file with handy aliases?
[09:01] <skraito> thats a ubuntu hardening script
[09:01] <skraito> just check it
[09:01] <tsimpson> skraito: no, stop it or be removed
[09:01] <skraito> ah okay
[09:02] <parapan> ??
[09:02] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, perhaps (I don't know, though) the problem is that I stopped updating my Ubuntu a long ago. And, therefore, my PC is not "synchronized" with what they have now. Could it be something like that?
[09:02] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, i bet on it
[09:03] <francesco_> Zombie, sorry. I know.
[09:03] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, how could I solve the problem. Could I "manually" install the packages that I need? Is it difficult?
[09:04] <sveinse> Is it possible to resize2fs a running root fs? Expand that is. Apparently it is possible on lvm, but is it on an ordinary block device?
[09:04] <hawkal> Anyone know anything about packages.ubuntu.com being down?
[09:04] <bekks> sveinse: Depends on the fs.
[09:04] <sveinse> ext4
[09:04] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, if it is so, "sudo apt-get install updates" wouldn't work. I'm not an expert though.
[09:04] <tsimpson> hawkal: it's being worked on
[09:05] <fidel> hawkal: seems to be down here to
[09:05] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, i've never done that, you better google it
[09:05] <bekks> sveinse: You cant resize the blockdevice online, but the filesystem only.
[09:05] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, thank you, anyway. Perhaps I had better install Lubuntu.
[09:06] <hawkal> tsimpson & fidel okay thank you
[09:06] <sveinse> bekks: So I can in principle resize the partition/block device, reboot and then resize the fs
[09:07] <bekks> sveinse: No. You have to use a livecd to resize the blockdevice.
[09:07] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, no problem, you really should install lubuntu
[09:08] <sveinse> bekks: Uhm. no. You can change the partition table on a running system. It might not come into effect until you reboot, but you can change it
[09:08] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, last question. :) Do you really think it could be the effects of Gnome that slowed down my PC?
[09:10] <sveinse> bekks: So from what I understand you can change the fs, but not the block device. But if the block device has already been expanded (like with lvm), then you can run resize2fs. Isn't that right?
[09:10] <L1l> could anyone help with ipv6 ?
[09:10] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, i had the same problem on my old laptop... after installing lubuntu - i felt like it's a new notebook... much faster
[09:10] <decci> May I know if Ubuntu provide any Hardware Suite tool for Dell or HP server?
[09:10] <sveinse> What defines the fs size? Meta-data in the superblock, or the size of the block device?
[09:11] <francesco_> LorSamPau_w, thank you very much for your patience. I have to go now. See you some other time. Ciao.
[09:11] <bekks> sveinse: That is correct.
[09:11] <LorSamPau_w> francesco_, ciao
[09:11] <bekks> sveinse: The size of the fs is defined in the superblock of the fs and control blocks on the block device.
[09:14] <sveinse> bekks: Since it works with lvm where you can expand the logical volume, it seems to me that the size of ext(4) is bounded by data in the superblock. When you increase a lv the block device increases in size, but you need to run resize2fs to allow the fs to take use of the whole block-dev
[09:15] <sveinse> bekks: So, again, wouldn't this be the same as to increase the partition table, then reboot to apply the new partition table (where the only change is increase of the partition's end) and resize2fs it to fill the device
[09:24] <n8w> hey guys, do u know how to import a custom syntax highligh schema into kate? this one in particular: http://osdir.com/ml/kde.devel.kwrite/2004-04/msg00271.html
[09:26] <funky1> hi all
[09:27] <PrAsHaNt> hi funky1
[09:27] <gabriele> hello
[09:28] <funky1> i'm having some trouble to get a command be executed at bootup or login, i run ubuntu 12.04 and have tried to include as a service and cron @restart and using the "start up" function on the desktop
[09:28] <Guest18830> there are a channel for help in italian?
[09:28] <funky1> the command i want to run is for my IR remote to make it work
[09:28] <funky1> ir-keytable
[09:28] <DJones> Guest18830: #ubuntu-it
[09:28] <funky1> but somehow it is not working on startup to execute this, how to solve this?
[09:28] <funky1> or how to investigate what happens?
[09:28] <funky1> HI PrAsHaNt :)
[09:29] <Guest18830> thanks DJones
[09:30] <Eagleman> I want to sepetate 2 domains on the website but i am getting this: [Wed Sep 12 11:29:29 2012] [warn] NameVirtualHost 84.107.***.**:80 has no VirtualHosts
[09:35] <Gedmi> Hello guys, i need some help during my ubuntu 12.04 LTS installation. Someone can help me?
[09:35] <parapan> bekks: Hello again man ......it worked thank you .....I've modified interfaces files, restarted, network manager was up, deleted old connections and now is working OK ....
[09:36] <susundbe1g> Gedmi: !ask
[09:36] <susundbe1g> !ask
[09:36] <Gedmi> oh
[09:36] <Gedmi> sorry..:)
[09:37] <skraito> hi all
[09:37] <arak90> #xdcc
[09:37]  * skraito say hi all
[09:38] <maxexcloo> " It's not just you! http://packages.ubuntu.com looks down from here."
[09:38] <maxexcloo> Anyone know anything about that?
[09:38] <tsimpson> maxexcloo: it's being worked on
[09:38] <Gedmi> !ask During my ubuntu 12.04 LTS instalation i have faced to one problem. O dunno what to chose creating a new partition. Logical or primary?
[09:38] <maxexcloo> tsimpson, it seems to be down every time I need it :(
[09:38] <mevvis> ryc
[09:38] <maxexcloo> Any place I can follow status and such?
[09:39] <tsimpson> maxexcloo: there are issues with the server running that domain, the admins are attempting to fix as we speak
[09:39] <maxexcloo> Awesome
[09:41] <Gedmi> During my ubuntu 12.04 LTS instalation i have faced to one problem. O dunno what to chose creating a new partition. Logical or primary? (Sorry for some flood, just trying without !ask command. I am new here. :) )
[09:42] <fidel> Gedmi: what is the current setup of that box?
[09:42] <fidel> Gedmi: as in: is there any other os on use etc?
[09:42] <fidel> Gedmi: the !ask command is only used to save keystrokes for the residents inhere - explaining new users how to start getting help inhere.
[09:45] <Gedmi> fidel: Yes, i have windows 8 in my pc, but i wanna change my os to Ubuntu, but i wanna keep my ntfs partition alive, cuz there i have all my data.. So in the Installation type menu i have selected something else and now i need to partition my computer or smth..
[09:46] <fidel> Gedmi: well if you want to keep your windows partition - this will include win8 aswell if i understand you correct - create at least 1 additional partition for linux
[09:47] <Cart> Hi guys
[09:47] <Cart> Could I please quickly have a firewall experts attention ?
[09:47] <Gedmi> fidel: No, before i had C and D partitions. In C partition i always keep OS'es and system soft and etc.. In D partition i am storing al my personal data files. So now i need to delete C partition and prepare it for Ubuntu. Am i right or no? :?
[09:47] <PrAsHaNt> how to install .deb files ?
[09:48] <fidel> Gedmi: well yeah - in theory it should be afaik enough to delete the current C (i.e. from a live cd) reboot usingthe ubuntu cd and start the installation on that free space which was C earlier
[09:49] <hateball> !anyone | Cart
[09:49] <Cart> Guys Ubuntu works with almost every Intel processor right? that will include  lga1155 Pentium G840 - Dual core?
[09:49] <fidel> PrAsHaNt: in case you are asking for HOW to install .deb files from cli - > consider using dpkg
[09:49] <Cart> ok
[09:49] <fidel> otherwise consider asking a more detailed question
[09:49] <Gedmi> fidel: It doesnt need to partition all those swap, /, /home and etc?
[09:50] <fidel> Gedmi: thats an option - while you can baiscally use just 1 partition as well
[09:50] <fidel> more or less a user/admin preference thing
[09:50] <vkas> PrAsHaNt: if you prefer gui, use gdebi
[09:50] <PrAsHaNt> fidel, m totally new here , do i have to install dpkg software or something like that?
[09:51] <fidel> PrAsHaNt: as a first step - it would help to ask a clear question ;)
[09:51] <fidel> PrAsHaNt: are you looking on how to do that in GUI or CLI?
[09:51] <PrAsHaNt> vkas, okey
[09:51] <vkas> PrAsHaNt: install gdebi from software center
[09:51] <Cart> ok im thinking of making a Firewall for a small office building that should deny internet acces to some PCs on the network..now the PC will have the following specs,  Pentium G840 - Dual core 2.8Ghz 2Gig ram and 250Gig HDD with 2 x 1Gig Lan cards
[09:51] <fidel> PrAsHaNt: and ask yourself why you download a .deb file manually in the first place - as this makes only sense if apt doesnt offer that specific package/version
[09:52] <Gedmi> fidel: I see, but what choise is better? And how can i use only 1 partition? I mean what mount point must be?
[09:52] <Cart> which ive heard is overkill also
[09:52] <PrAsHaNt> i d prefer it any way so longs its installing stuff
[09:53] <Cart> Would that work and what can I use in Ubuntu to block IPs etc
[09:53] <PrAsHaNt> fidel actually i wanted to install draftsight and i downloaded it lunux version
[09:54] <fidel> !info draftsight
[09:55] <fidel> PrAsHaNt: as you see - that package doesnt exist inside the ubuntu repo -> so yes getting it from whatever prjectpage it is and installing it manualy might be the way. as mentioned earlier: you have several ways how to handle a .deb file. the 2 major ways are either using a GUI or a CLI (dpkg command)
[09:55] <fidel> PrAsHaNt: simply double-clicking the .deb should open an install dialog as well (afaik....i never tried that myself)
[09:55] <PrAsHaNt> fidel, okey thanks
[09:55] <nngger> helloo booboontoos. I have problem wiht update. Usualy I just deactivated "bad" repo, but this time its not good idea, because Java has some security 0day iessues. Look at this picture:  http://i.imgur.com/E5wZ6.png
[09:56] <fidel> PrAsHaNt: but again - try to always use APT if possible - its 1 of the big advantages of linux based systems to have a working package-management for most cases
[09:57] <PrAsHaNt> fidel, what is apt??? sorry this is my first day in ubuntu
[09:58] <fidel> PrAsHaNt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool might explain it better then i can in short
[09:58] <PrAsHaNt> fidel, thanks again for the link
[09:59] <fidel> in very short: its a cmd/tool to search/install/remove applications/packages in ubuntu/debian/similar
[09:59] <fidel> !apt > PrAsHaNt
[09:59] <arak90_> http://gogloom.com/networks
[10:00] <madjoe> How to resolve an issue with an apt-get install "Package 'X' has no installation candidate"? More details: http://bit.ly/RGxlOj
[10:01] <nngger> once again.  I have problem wiht update. Usualy I just deactivated "bad" repo, but this time its not good idea, because Java has some security 0day iessues. Look at this picture:  http://i.imgur.com/E5wZ6.png
[10:01] <fidel> madjoe: i usually start with: apt-cache policy PACKAGENAME to see the options
[10:01] <madjoe> fidel: ok, I'll try to do it now
[10:01] <fidel> madjoe: that should only show you what version you might have - which is available and if so - via which source
[10:02] <skraito> wow alot of indian
[10:03] <skraito> using proxy or what ever it is
[10:03] <skraito> just to come from boat
[10:03] <skraito> to get their cow
[10:03] <madjoe> fidel: N: Unable to locate package ppa:michael-gruz/canon-trunk
[10:03] <himanshu_linux> hi ,I am writing a image to a DVD... what does this means "creating image checksum"?
[10:05] <fidel> madjoe: sounds like an ppa issue - and if i remember right ppas arent supported inhere
[10:05] <madjoe> fidel: can you direct me somewhere else then, please?
[10:05] <fidel> madjoe: at least i cant help you here - as i dont use/have that source
[10:06] <dr_willis> ppa maintainer or its homepage/forums
[10:06] <gordonjcp> madjoe: contact the maintainer of the PPA
[10:06] <madjoe> dr_willis: great stuff! thanks!
[10:06] <madjoe> gordonjcp: thnx!
[10:07] <dr_willis> i dident see the original error. ;)
[10:07] <PrAsHaNt> mevvis, that caffeine thing worked
[10:07] <PrAsHaNt> for stooping screensaver and all that
[10:07] <mevvis> thanks!
[10:07] <mevvis> I have same problem
[10:07] <mevvis> x]
[10:07] <mevvis> on laptop
[10:08] <PrAsHaNt> thanks to u .....
[10:08] <Forseti> Hello everyone, i am new here, and i need some help. I wanna change my OS to ubuntu. Am i need to change my all partitions from NTFS to smth?
[10:09] <ikonia> Forseti: do you plan on leaving windows on your machine ?
[10:10] <Forseti> ikonia, yeah, for now i am planing to replace my curently os with ubuntu 12.04
[10:10] <dr_willis> Forseti:  how many hard drives do you have?
[10:10] <ikonia> Forseti: ok, so you don't want to change your ntfs partitions
[10:10] <PrAsHaNt> i am not able to open terminal by ctrl+alt+t
[10:10] <mevvis> grub2 settings its to dificult. what a point?
[10:10] <dr_willis> mevvis:  what?
[10:10] <tasslehoff> Anyone with 12.04 on a Lenovo T530 with the minidisplayport working?
[10:10] <ikonia> Forseti: your windows OS will still want to use NTFS
[10:10] <ikonia> tasslehoff: I have it working on a T430s
[10:11] <mevvis> good morning dr_willis
[10:11] <Forseti> ikonia: No, i want to remove my windows. :) I wanna replace it with ubuntu
[10:11] <ikonia> Forseti: in that case, the installer will delete and create new partitions for you
[10:11] <Forseti> ikonia, but i have partition where i am storing all my personal data and files
[10:11] <dr_willis> Forseti:  backup any imporntant data to some safe place like a external usb drive
[10:12] <ikonia> Forseti: ok, so leave that one alone, but as dr_willis if you can, backup
[10:12] <Forseti> hm, yeah, maybe i can.. :)
[10:12] <dr_willis> data worth keeping.. is data worth backing up..
[10:12] <dr_willis> if its not worth backing up.. well..
[10:13] <Forseti> and when i will back up my all data it will automatically install ubuntu?
[10:14] <dr_willis> Forseti:  you can tell the ubuntu isntaller to use the whole drive. or just parts of it
[10:14] <Forseti> I mean with all partitions needed?
[10:14] <dr_willis> or yiu can define your own partitions
[10:15] <pngl> What's the best way to save ssh passphrases under ubuntu? I'm tired of typing them everytime I ssh somewhere.
[10:15] <Forseti> And what is the best option?
[10:15] <voldyman> i have an old ubuntu about 9.10 or 9.04 can i upgrade it to 12.04??
[10:15] <dr_willis> Forseti:  totally depends on your needs
[10:15] <dr_willis> voldyman:  should be able to. but it may take some time
[10:17] <Forseti> dr_willis, i have 650gb hard drive, u think ubuntu needs all this space? Or i just can leave one partition with my files and other partition for ubuntu?
[10:17] <dr_willis> Forseti:  you do have a windows restore cd/dvd   set made in case you ever want to convert the pc back/sell it?  always handy to have.
[10:17] <dr_willis> Forseti:  ubuntu can handke a large # of partitions
[10:18] <dr_willis> 50gb would be  planty for a basic ubuntu install
[10:18] <dr_willis> normal ubuntu install uses 2 partitions. one for /  and one for 'swap'
[10:19] <Forseti> dr_willis, i have cd/dvd with windows it is not a problem, i just want to decide what is the best option. To have ntfs partition of all my files and other partitions for ubuntu or to have all pc based on ubuntu partitions. :)
[10:19] <voldyman_> dr_willis: how?
[10:19] <voldyman_> my network errord
[10:19] <dr_willis> not much point in keeping a ntfs partition on a whole ubunty system
[10:19] <dr_willis> !upgrade
[10:20] <PrAsHaNt> how to open terminal for a particular folder? plz h
[10:20] <dr_willis> voldyman_:  i find it faster to do clean installs.
[10:20] <PrAsHaNt> help*
[10:21] <dr_willis> PrAsHaNt:  you mean right click on a folder and have a 'open terminal here' item?
[10:21] <voldyman_> dr_willis: its 11.04
[10:21] <voldyman_> dr_willis:  me too but. but its not my computer
[10:21] <tsimpson> voldyman_: you can use the instructions here to upgrade: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades but it may not be very smooth
[10:21] <Forseti> dr_willis, so in windows there are disks (C, D, etc..). Is something like that in ubuntu? Or it is just keeping all things in one place?
[10:21] <PrAsHaNt> dr_willis, yes
[10:21] <dr_willis> 11.04 is not eol  so tats a good thing
[10:21]  * skraito wow indian is everywhere 
[10:21]  * skraito they got telepathy from infra red or what
[10:22] <dr_willis> Forseti:  windowas names partitions that way.  linux mounts them to different locations
[10:22] <voldyman_> skraito: indian here too. feelsgoodman :)
[10:22] <PrAsHaNt> skraito, why are you so much focussed on indians?
[10:23] <PrAsHaNt> skraito, any interesting story?
[10:23] <skraito> oh yeah
[10:23] <skraito> indian is always a cheater
[10:23] <Forseti> dr_willis, so you prefer to change all pc hard drive to ubuntu system?
[10:23] <skraito> they cheat 20 cent
[10:23] <DJones> skraito: Theres no need for comments like that
[10:23] <skraito> and cheat another one dollar
[10:23] <tasslehoff> ikonia: running discrete graphics only?
[10:23] <DJones> !coc | skraito
[10:23] <skraito> + harassing with smell
[10:23] <voldyman_> skraito: do go to #rindia
[10:23] <skraito> + harassing with anything man
[10:24] <PrAsHaNt> dr_willis, yes i want "open terminal here "in my right click menu
[10:24] <dr_willis> Forseti:  for a system thats all linux, noy much to gain by keeping part of it lon ntfs.   external usbs perhaps stay with ntfs if you are moveing them from pc to pc..
[10:24] <dr_willis> PrAsHaNt:  there used to be a package in the repos that added that feature
[10:25] <PrAsHaNt> okey thanks
[10:25] <dr_willis> PrAsHaNt:  or just open a terminal, type 'cd ' then drag/drop the folder into the terminal
[10:26] <PrAsHaNt> dr_willis, thanks a lot , though i ll google that package out
[10:26] <savio> hey
[10:26] <Forseti> dr_willis, Thank you a lot! I will think about it. :)
[10:26] <milo64> hola
[10:27] <savio> is there any way any log files that are generated my network-manager  which i can use in case of failure
[10:28] <milo64> dr_willis: byobu in ubuntu and byobu in debian are different versions when installed from apt-get
[10:28] <Ora3232> savio: Look in the log file viewer
[10:28] <dr_willis> milo64:  thats not supriseing.
[10:29] <milo64> i mean, what version is it in debian and what version is it in ubuntu
[10:29] <dr_willis> !info byobu
[10:29] <milo64> oO
[10:29] <sica> ciao
[10:29] <dr_willis> no idea on debian
[10:29] <sica> !list
[10:30] <dr_willis> wow yet anothrt caio, list, exit....
[10:30] <tsimpson> !info byobu unstable
[10:30] <Ora3232> What has list got to do with warez? What a stupid presumption
[10:31] <dr_willis> and they always say caio first.... how.. odd. ;)
[10:31] <Eagleman> Why is ubuntu hanging on every reboot, it will take about 3 minutes to boot succesfully:  Waiting for network configuration...   network file: http://pastebin.com/DdsLLHBz
[10:32] <tasslehoff> ikonia: with discrete graphics my t530 won't boot, and with integrated I can't make the minidisplayport work
[10:33] <milo64> dr_willis: [17:31:24] <judd> Package: byobu on i386 -- squeeze: 2.80-1+squeeze1; sid: 5.16-1; wheezy: 5.16-1
[10:33] <milo64> uh... that's weird
[10:33] <milo64> the interface is not the same
[10:34] <dr_willis> its just a fancy set of configs for tmux or screen last i looked milo64
[10:34] <milo64> oh wait
[10:34] <milo64> squeeze
[10:34] <milo64> ok. thanks bye
[10:35] <sno_> Hello, I have an ipv6 tunnel setup, is there a way to prevent ipv4 connections to IRC ports 6660-6669 on eth0 but allow connections through ipv6 via iptables?  When I deny those ports on eth0 I´m also not able to connect through the ipv6.
[10:41] <g105b> is it possible to install mysql and php to a directory within $HOME to not interfere with possible installed versions ?
[10:41] <PrAsHaNt> dr_willis, sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[10:42] <pngl> I want to update a machine with 9.04 on it. But the packages are gone from archive.ubuntu.org. What should I do?
[10:42] <tsimpson> pngl: you can use the instructions here to upgrade: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EOLUpgrades but it may not be very smooth
[10:44] <dr_willis> 3 years worth of updates. :)
[10:48] <Ora3232> sno_: Presume you're using ip6tables already?
[10:50] <florica76> .
[10:51] <Ora3232> sno_: As far as I understood it, iptables only applies to v4 and ip6tables only applies to v6 traffic, so using the two you should be able to setup appropriate rules
[10:57] <sno_> Ora3232, thanks for the reply.  Now If I use iptables for ipv4/eth0 why would it prevent traffic on the ipv6 device? ;/
[10:58] <sno_> I am aware of ip6tables, I haven´t configured any rules for it, I´m fine with the ipv6 being completely open, it sounds like since it is an ipv6 tunnel, I may need to configure some rules between iptables and ip6tables?  Maybe some kind of forwarding?
[11:00] <bustacap> How can I hide ALL echoing from wget?
[11:00] <sno_> Now, given I am connecting to a ipv6 irc server, there shouldn´t be any communication between ipv4/eth0 and that ipv6 irc server.
[11:00] <tsimpson> bustacap: add -o /dev/null
[11:01] <sno_> I´m trying to figure out why disabling ports on ipv4/eth0 affects the ipv6/he-ipv6 device. It shouldn´t.
[11:01] <sno_> hmmm
[11:01] <bustacap> tsimpson, you're the man. thanks ;)
[11:07] <asker> hi
[11:07] <asker> everyone
[11:07] <asker> everyone
[11:07] <asker> everyone
[11:07] <asker> hi
[11:07] <FloodBot1> asker: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:07] <g105b> good morning asker
[11:08] <Ora3232> Harsh
[11:08] <Paddy_NI> For show
[11:15] <Eagleman>  Where can i find the default /etc/bind/named.conf.options  ?
[11:15] <BluesKaj_> Hi all
[11:15] <wiherek> Hi
[11:16] <wiherek> I need to connect to a pptp vpn that only accepts certified clients
[11:16] <wiherek> I have the .crt file
[11:19] <yulio> dr_willis: help me .I can't install and remove software http://paste.ubuntu.com/1200352/
[11:20] <meisth0th> yulio: did you try sudo apt-get update?
[11:20] <Eagleman>  Where can i find the default /etc/bind/named.conf.options  ?
[11:20] <yulio> meisth0th: yup !
[11:20] <Eagleman> The orginal file when it was installed.
[11:21] <meisth0th> Eagleman: find which package provides that file, download that package
[11:21] <Eagleman> apt-get
[11:22] <yulio> meisth0th: i even try http://paste.ubuntu.com/1200360/
[11:23] <meisth0th> yulio: can you please try running same command as root
[11:23] <MonkeyDust> yulio  I haven't followed... is it a PPA you're trying to upgrade?
[11:24] <yulio> meisth0th:  i had tried it under root
[11:24] <dhruvasagar> Hey guys, I just did a fresh install of ubuntu 12.04 and updated all packages, then installed google-chrome-stable from google.com/chrome, I get aw,snap on every page, even the settings page, what could be wrong ?
[11:25] <meisth0th> yulio: then i have no idea
[11:25] <meisth0th> dhruvasagar: why do you use google-chrome?
[11:25] <meisth0th> dhruvasagar: you can install chromium-browser from official repositories?
[11:25] <dr_willis> looks almost like a file in /var/lib/dpkg/status got messed up.  try renameing that file. and do a sudo apt-get update/upgrade again
[11:25] <dhruvasagar> meisth0th: well I need it only for the 'incognito feature'
[11:25] <dhruvasagar> meisth0th: ok lemme check chromium
[11:25] <meisth0th> dhruvasagar: then chromium is what you should have
[11:25] <meisth0th> $ sudo apt-get install chromium-browser
[11:26] <dhruvasagar> meisth0th: cool
[11:26] <dhruvasagar> meisth0th: thanks
[11:26] <tsimpson> dhruvasagar: firefox has "private browsing", which is the same thing under a different name
[11:26] <meisth0th> dhruvasagar: you're welcome
[11:26] <ndee> anyone has a tutorial on how I can allow for an FTP account only exactly one IP address?
[11:26] <yulio> dhruvasagar: you can also try opera and midori(fastest)
[11:28] <Ora3232> dhruvasagar: I wouldn't use Chrome, it captures your personal details
[11:28] <dhruvasagar> yulio: I have used opera before, not sure it has the incognito like feature, haven't used midori at all
[11:28] <Ora3232> dhruvasagar: Use an open source browser
[11:28] <dhruvasagar> Ora3232: hmm you might be right :)
[11:31] <p> help
[11:32] <p> ;)
[11:32] <Guest29050>  /SET term_force_colors ON
[11:32] <Guest29050> exit
[11:38] <jrgiffor1> /quit
[11:39] <j2daosh> hey all. quick question concerning the autostart
[11:39] <Eagleman> !ask
[11:39] <j2daosh> how do i turn on logging for an application? remote desktop doesn't log by default (which is freaking retarded in my opinion) and I want to start it so it creates a log
[11:40] <fidel> j2daosh: might depends on the remote desktop app you use in the first place
[11:40] <j2daosh> i attempted to add >> /var/log/vnc.log to the auto start, but that didn't work and only said it couldn't open the display
[11:40] <fidel> some apps do log into syslog - checked that?
[11:40] <j2daosh> fidel: its xrdc
[11:41] <fidel> j2daosh: so check first what this specific app is supposed to do according to the dev/docs
[11:41] <j2daosh> fidel: yeah, and checked the auth log. no mention. but when i netstat -tp|grep ESTAB, i see people connected to the vino-server from china
[11:41] <j2daosh> and thats when i killed it and decided to start logging lol
[11:42] <dhruvasagar> btw chromium works like a charm :)
[11:44] <AdvoWork> I have a virtual machine, running ubuntu 12.04 server, and have a few cifs and nfs mounts in /etc/fstab. These work fine, but I rebooted all VM's yesterday, and even though they boot in order, the ubuntu server must have come up before the file server(therefore the VM didnt boot due to mount errors). Is there anything I can do?
[11:44] <eleazar> hey guys, random question, is there a vnc or ssh server automatically running on ubuntu? i forgot to start teamviewer before i left for work and now i can't access the box, but i have another pc on the network that i could use to ssh or vnc with
[11:45] <johnm> AdvoWork: there are several options, but one of the simplest would be to look at using autofs opposed to static mounts of nfs volumes.
[11:46] <dengke> hey guys
[11:46] <dhanasekaran> Hi guys I am to cloud with ubuntu, Basic difference between ubuntu iso, and cloud-image iso, please guide me
[11:48] <dengke> This is my first time using IRC
[11:48] <fidel> dhanasekaran: consider rephrasing your question. personaly i do know there are ubuntu desktop & server & alternative isos ... but never heard of an cloud iso
[11:48] <dhruvasagar> btw I have installed ubuntu 12.04 on my macbook pro, except for the work around for installing wireless firmware drivers, which is very well documented I might add, everything works quite well!
[11:49] <fidel> dhanasekaran: http://www.ubuntu.com/download <- should offer an overview
[11:49] <dengke> 大家好！
[11:49] <dhanasekaran> fidel, http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/precise/current/
[11:49] <fidel> !en | dengke
[11:49] <MonkeyDust> dhanasekaran  there's alos this http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud
[11:50] <dengke> I konw
[11:50] <asker2help> hi
[11:50] <dhanasekaran> fidel, i am using openstack what is difference between iso image cloud image
[11:50] <dhanasekaran> ?
[11:52] <SolarAquarion> Some on my ubuntu system is wrong http://privatepaste.com/76ec175a69
[11:52] <bazhang> SolarAquarion, what version of ubuntu
[11:52] <SolarAquarion> 12.10
[11:53] <bazhang> SolarAquarion, this is not the channel for 12.10
[11:53] <MonkeyDust> SolarAquarion  try #ubuntu+1
[11:54] <SolarAquarion> MonkeyDust and Bazhang i'm there
[11:54] <bazhang> SolarAquarion, so be patient
[11:56] <johnm> SolarAquarion: I'd question why it's trying to import the linuxmint object on a vanilla ubuntu install.
[11:56] <tasslehoff> will it work to install nvidia-current when I'm running on internal graphics only (set in bios)?
[11:56] <johnm> s/object/module/
[11:57] <lazio83> ciao
[11:57] <SolarAquarion> johnm because my system isn't a vanilla install
[11:58] <lazio83> List!
[11:58] <MonkeyDust> idd "ImportError: No module named linuxmint"
[11:58] <johnm> SolarAquarion: Then what is it? if it's a problem of linuxmint, then it's probably best looking to the linuxmint guys
[11:59] <SolarAquarion> But i'm using ubuntu 12.10
[11:59] <johnm> SolarAquarion: if it's something you've recently changed yourself, it's unlikely to expect a lot of help for an ubuntu release thats not yet been released.
[11:59] <SolarAquarion> i know
[11:59] <fidel> i guess someone mentioned #ubuntu+1 already right?
[11:59] <SolarAquarion> yep
[11:59] <SolarAquarion> .........  and i'm waiting
[12:00] <johnm> SolarAquarion: But you've not explained what you've done for it to look to import linuxmint related material. If you're pasting that error you won't het much response. Outline in #ubuntu+1 what you've done to cause this problem, and if they can direct you on an appropriate solution
[12:00] <Sidewinder1> SolarAquarion, While you're waiting, there's also the ubuntuforums.org; if you haven't searched already.
[12:01] <MonkeyDust> SolarAquarion  start from the beginning, what were you doing and why, before you came here for help
[12:04] <SolarAquarion> I had a linux mint 11 (Katya) which I uprgraded to Maya which I upgraded to ubuntu 12.10
[12:05] <MonkeyDust> SolarAquarion  a diffzerent distro is not an upgrade
[12:05] <johnm> SolarAquarion: I would strongly suggest just installing a fresh ubuntu 12.10 and copying over what you require from backups
[12:05] <johnm> your $HOME is mostly portable, and most other things (on a desktop environment) should carry sane defaults, it's a fairly straight forward job
[12:06] <SolarAquarion> okay.........
[12:06] <johnm> You'll get no end of cruft carried over from linuxmint, since they do alter more than you might anticipate - which is of course why you see the current issues.
[12:07] <MonkeyDust> IIRC, mint is based on debian, not on ubuntu
[12:08] <dr_willis> i think they have  variants on both
[12:09] <dr_willis> i just stick with ubuntu. ;)
[12:10] <ViaNocturna> MonkeyDust: That's incorrect, uname will list Mint as Ubuntu
[12:13] <MonkeyDust> ViaNocturna  you're right, just tried it in vbox
[12:14] <ViaNocturna> MonkeyDust: It's okay, it all leads back to Debian eventually lol
[12:18] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: <OT> there is a mint based on debian LMDE
[12:19] <itsrachelfish> Is it just me or is packages.ubuntu.com down?
[12:19] <maxexcloo> any status updates on the packages.ubuntu.com site?
[12:19] <itsrachelfish> xD!
[12:19] <maxexcloo> yep
[12:19] <maxexcloo> has been for hours
[12:19] <itsrachelfish> oh wow
[12:19] <maxexcloo> it happened a week back too
[12:19] <maxexcloo> Always when I need it for work too!
[12:19] <ugly> hello all, had a question if someone could help me that would be awesome
[12:20] <zykotick9> !ask | ugly
[12:23] <ugly> In the /etc/default/grub directory, what do i have to edit so that i will be able to select either my linux system or my windows os?
[12:24] <zykotick9> ugly: try running "sudo update-grub" and see if it gets automatically added.
[12:24] <zykotick9> ugly: fyi /etc/default/ is the directory, grub is a file ;)
[12:26] <ugly> thank you i tried, normally it says skipping windows nt but this time it said nothing
[12:28] <ugly> Also i have tried to find the Grub Device map so that i can see where windows was located but i was unsuccessful, do you have the command for that?
[12:29] <dr_willis> should be in /boot/grub ugly
[12:29] <dr_willis> or /boot/
[12:29] <m3pow> hello , anyone knows how can i install the documentation on ruby so i can access it from terminal
[12:30] <ugly> i tried /boot/grub/menu.lst and got permission denied, next step?
[12:31] <p1l0t> what does the t in drwxrwxrwt mean?
[12:31] <dr_willis> menu.lst is not used by grub2.
[12:31] <ugly> thats right its grub.cfg right?
[12:31] <delinquentme> SO say someone gives me access to a server that they own ...  THey've got a user for me ... and I'm wondering how secure the password I update my user with is
[12:31] <BluesKaj>  \/etc/default/grub for grub2 users , menu.lst is for legacy grub
[12:32] <dr_willis> ugly:  and what do you mean 'tried' ?
[12:32] <delinquentme> Is it hard for them to get the password for my user account if they're an admin?
[12:32] <dr_willis> delinquentme:  normally quite difficult
[12:32] <p1l0t> d = directory ; r = read ; w = write ; x = execute ; t = ?
[12:32] <delinquentme> dr_willis, noted
[12:33] <dr_willis> pick a long password if  you are parasnoid
[12:33] <zykotick9> don't use a "password" at all!  use a "pass sentence" 14 characters or more type thing
[12:34] <delinquentme> so this is something hashed / encrypted sooo the longer it is  ... the more difficult?
[12:34] <dr_willis> yes delinquentme
[12:34] <dr_willis> i saw the maths once.. longer = better then more random but shorter
[12:35] <dr_willis> but this is getting into the tinfoil hat paranoia level
[12:35] <zykotick9> dr_willis: less then 14-18 characters can be stored on a dvd rainbow table... so anything short is already decrypted
[12:36] <p1l0t> 0_o
[12:36] <dr_willis> dna scanners..
[12:37] <dr_willis> ugly:  best to keep it in the channel. im at work and may have to leave at any time
[12:38] <dr_willis> ugly:  'sudo fdisk -l' will show all partitions on the system
[12:38] <ugly> ok appreciate it i will try that, i have tried rootnoverify (hd0,0) makeactive chainloader+1, is that close?
[12:39] <dr_willis> i dont even know what you are trying to do
[12:39] <dr_willis> that looks like the old grub1 syntax.  ubuntu uses grub2 nirmally these days
[12:40] <ugly> oh for some reason when i downloaded ubuntu it took away my boot option menu so it boots straight to linux
[12:40] <BobMarley> hello
[12:40] <ugly> trying to get it so that i can boot to a selectable menu
[12:40] <dr_willis> ugly:  you see the grub menu at all on boot?
[12:40] <BobMarley> i have updated to the 12.04 lts, is there a way to have the lucyd environment?
[12:40] <BluesKaj> ugly, did you sudo update-grub ?
[12:40] <dr_willis> BobMarley:  you mean gnome2 ?
[12:41] <unless_> How do I solve this situation : "ssh: connect to host 192.168.56.1 port 22: Connection refused" ?
[12:41] <BobMarley> dr_willis, i dont know what i was using then, but i dont like the side wive of the 12.04 lts
[12:41] <ugly> yes i can access the grub menu on boot, and yes i have used update-grub
[12:41] <Pici> unless_: make sure that sshd is actually running on that host.
[12:41] <dr_willis> unless_:  check the server logs and configs and see why its refuseing it
[12:42] <dr_willis> !classic | BobMarley
[12:42] <BluesKaj> unless_, make sure 192.168.56.1  is up and running
[12:42] <dr_willis> !nounity | BobMarley
[12:42] <unless_> BluesKaj, how?
[12:42] <BluesKaj> ping it , unless_
[12:43] <BluesKaj> pinging won't turn the device on , but at least you'll know , unless_
[12:43] <belugs> Hi guys, Which the best software to recover deleted file? Extension DBF
[12:43] <dr_willis> BobMarley:  i perfer unity these days.  its getting a nice set of features.
[12:43] <unless_> BluesKaj, it is working.
[12:43] <ugly> its just not giving me the option to boot windows, skips straight to linux
[12:43] <belugs> I try the software "foremost", but he doesn't recover DBF file
[12:44] <BobMarley> dr_willis, but it is hard to me to see which programs are oppened
[12:44] <belugs> *tried
[12:44] <dr_willis> ugly:  so you see some kernel entries, and memtest and other entries in the grub menu
[12:44] <ugly> yes i see all of them except windows
[12:45] <dr_willis> BobMarley:  oh? little arrow shows open apps and the icon background changes i belve
[12:45] <BobMarley> dr_willis, is there at least a way to manage the unity features? like resising it?
[12:45] <dr_willis> BobMarley:  youcan resize the panel yes.
[12:45] <BluesKaj> ugly, then you might have timeout =0 in the grub menu , when booting hold down the left shift key to get grub , then "e" to edit the timeout
[12:45] <StryKaizer> Every time I receive a message over IM, I get promted for authentication (superuser),   Anyone any suggestions on fixing?
[12:45] <p1l0t> So how do I know if (t = restricted deletion flag || t = sticky bit) { on my system; }
[12:45] <BobMarley> dr_willis, but how?
[12:46] <ugly> my grub timeout is set to 30, although the hidden timeout is set to 0
[12:46] <dr_willis> BobMarley:  setting somere in the settings tools. a slider i recall..  not on a pc so i cant look
[12:47] <dr_willis> BobMarley:  the omgubuntu and webupd8 site have some neat unity tweaking tips and info. askubuntu.com  also has some good info
[12:47] <dr_willis> BobMarley:  tip #1 - press and hold the super key to see a keybord shortcut list
[12:48] <belugs> Hi guys, Which the best software to recover deleted file? Extension DBF. I tried the software "foremost", but he doesn't recover DBF file.
[12:48] <unless_> Pici, how do I make sure sshd is running?
[12:48] <dr_willis> sudo service sshd status    (i think)
[12:48] <sno_> unless, that is a question google can answer.
[12:48] <BluesKaj> ugly, run this , sudo os-prober ' then run 'sudo update-grub
[12:49] <geekbri> dr_willis:, unless_: sudo service ssh status
[12:49] <geekbri> leave the d off
[12:49] <dr_willis> unless_:  the service command is handy ;)
[12:49] <hfic> or pidof
[12:49] <ugly> BluesKaj, ok i ran them both, i can see windows xp there, then i ran sudo update-grub
[12:49] <dr_willis> it supports tab completion also
[12:50] <BobMarley> dr_willis, is there also a way to put the unity say at the top of the screen?
[12:50] <dr_willis> BobMarley:  nopt
[12:50] <BluesKaj> ugly, then you should be able to boot into windows
[12:50] <dr_willis> BobMarley:  nope
[12:50] <Eagleman> How do i add a pam user to imap, so he will be able to login on to imap. Some how the user Charlie is able to login in imap.domain.net and and the user Mathew is not able to login. same server but i only changed the user/password
[12:51] <ugly> BluesKaj, ok will try, then off to bed, work on it tomorrow i guess, thanks for the help
[12:51] <BluesKaj> ugly, np
[12:51] <p1l0t> Does it depend on whether its a file or directory the sticky bit or restricted deletion flag?
[12:54] <BobMarley> where is that button that minimizes all the windows?
[12:54] <dn4> in the latest ubuntu release why does the software center not show irssi
[12:54] <dn4> why is the terminal harder to find as an app; hmm
[12:54] <jn_> anyone know a program/plugin written in java which is open source and relates to linux somehow ?
[12:54] <fidel> !info irssi
[12:54] <unless_> geekbri, sudo: service: command not found, and now :P
[12:54] <fidel> dn4: the terminal is not harder to find an app - just do: apt-cache search irssi
[12:55] <Dealizer> Hi anyone?
[12:55] <sogeking99> Hey guys, I want to migrate my install from wubi to be a duel boot. When I installed it I choose a small, partition, around 30GB. I am following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi I see sda4 matches that size, but has mount point as '/host'
[12:55] <fidel> dn4: to be honest - its usualy faster then using the gui ;)
[12:55] <sogeking99> can I use that one?
[12:55] <dn4> um hmm
[12:55] <Dealizer> I've got a problem with Synaptic, any help?
[12:56] <unless_> dr_willis, do I need to install service?
[12:56] <fidel> BobMarley: might depend on what desktop you use ;)
[12:56] <fidel> !ask > Dealizer
[12:56] <Eagleman> How do i add a pam user to imap, so he will be able to login on to imap. Some how the user Charlie is able to login in imap.domain.net and and the user Mathew is not able to login. same server but i only changed the user/password
[12:57] <dn4> when did this software center for ubuntu get created?
[12:58] <BobMarley> fidel, i am using the latest one , the unity
[12:58] <fidel> dn4: several years ago - if thats answer-enough
[12:58] <Dealizer> I was installing a bunch of packages and suddenly my desktop session quited. I've logged in again and I want to recover that Synaptic window, how can I do that?
[12:58] <PrAsHaNt> how to install .run file?
[12:58] <fidel> BobMarley: so rephrase your question then and hope someone inhere us uusing unity and knows the answer
[12:59] <dn4> man in 2008 ubuntu did't have the software CENTER haha
[12:59] <dn4> evne in 09
[12:59] <sogeking99> Anyone know?
[12:59] <dr_willis> PrAsHaNt:  chmod +x foo.run   then ./foo.run     but what are you running?
[12:59] <fidel> PrAsHaNt: .run files get executed usualy from terminal
[12:59] <belugs> Someone know about extundelete? Can he recover deleted dbf file?
[13:00] <fidel> dnaccording to wiki version 1.02 shipped with 9.10.....and that is 2009 ;)
[13:00] <geekbri> unless_: "which service" doesn't return /usr/sbin/service ?
[13:00] <dr_willis> belugs:  if you are  lucky
[13:00] <PrAsHaNt> i want to install amd graphics driver which i downloaded it from the official site
[13:00] <BobMarley> fidel, in the lucyd there was a button on the left and at the bottom, i would like that button back
[13:00] <fris> is there anyway to run oidentd bind to only localhost, like mysql has skip-networking
[13:00] <dr_willis> PrAsHaNt:  the version in the repos dosent work?
[13:00] <belugs> dr_willis: Lol.. I tried the software "foremost", but he doesn't recoverd dbf file
[13:01] <fidel> BobMarley: i was just pointing out that you should ask a clear question - otherwise you'll end without answer. personaly i dont use unity - so i cant answer your question . but reasking your question - mentioned that you are talking about unity should be the way to go
[13:01] <PrAsHaNt> dr_willis, no its not compatible with draftsight the cad software
[13:01] <dr_willis> BobMarley:  the bot mentioned the gnome-fallback mode, or try lubuntu
[13:01] <PrAsHaNt> dr_willis, so i write all the commands in terminal that u said above?
[13:02] <unless_> geekbri, I got this : bash: :/usr/sbin/service: No such file or directory
[13:02] <belugs> dr_willis: so, I read about undelete software, and many people said extundelete is good
[13:02] <Eagleman> How do i add a pam user to imap, so he will be able to login on to imap. Some how the user Charlie is able to login in imap.domain.net and and the user Mathew is not able to login. same server but i only changed the user/password
[13:02] <dr_willis> belugs:  ive never nneeded to use any of them
[13:02] <dr_willis> !undelete
[13:02] <geekbri> unless_: what version of ubuntu are you using?
[13:03] <unless_> geekbri, 8.04 I think
[13:03] <dn4> so at least 4 years
[13:03] <dr_willis> !8.04
[13:03] <geekbri> unless_: my memory is rusty on that version, it is possible that they weren't using upstart at that point.
[13:03] <fidel> unless_: run: lsb_release -a // in a terminal
[13:03] <belugs> dr_willis: neither me.. but, my worker deleted one dbf.. and backup is old !!!
[13:03] <fidel> lsb_release should output your current version - if its really 8.x consider running updates ;)
[13:04] <unless_> I need it in order to run mpitch
[13:04] <geekbri> unless_: try "pidof sshd"
[13:04] <belugs> dr_willis: I'm trying recover... if I can't... I'll restore old backup, but it is the last choice.
[13:04] <fidel> unless_: well getting support for such old versions will get harder and harder over time ;)
[13:05] <geekbri> unless_: you could also try "dpkg --get-selections | grep openssh-server" to see if its even installed
[13:05] <unless_> geekbri, 4853
[13:05] <dr_willis> ssh localhost   ;)
[13:05] <geekbri> Of course, that is assuming that is still what the package was called 4 years ago :)
[13:05] <geekbri> unless_: seems like its running to me!
[13:05] <dr_willis> see if you can connect locallt
[13:05] <dr_willis> locally
[13:05] <unless_> well, it is 99% certain ssh is working because mpitch is.
[13:05] <unless_> it is connected locally.
[13:06] <dr_willis> then time to check the firewall rules and ssh logs
[13:06] <geekbri> could always sudo netstat -natpl | grep LISTEN.*sshd
[13:06] <geekbri> make sure its bound to the proper ip
[13:07] <Dealizer> I was installing a bunch of packages and suddenly my desktop session quited. I've logged in again and I want to recover that Synaptic window, how can I do that?
[13:07] <geekbri> sounds to me like sshd is running just fine though
[13:07] <sogeking99> Hey guys, I want to migrate my install from wubi to be a duel boot. When I installed it I choose a small, partition, around 30GB. I am following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi I see sda4 matches that size, but has mount point as '/host'
[13:07] <ViaNocturna> Dealizer: I would imagine you would have to fire Synaptic again
[13:07] <sogeking99> can I use that one?
[13:09] <Dealizer> @ViaNocturna: Yes, I've tried it but it says it's locked. So it's running in the background
[13:10] <sogeking99> I'm new to IRC, are you guys seeing my messages?
[13:11] <hfic> no
[13:11] <fidel> sogeking99: yes we do
[13:11] <BluesKaj> !Adeptfix | Dealizer
[13:11] <sogeking99> ok thanks
[13:12] <Deeewayne> how can I disable the UI in 12.04?  I don't see any /etc/rc2.d/*S30gdm files nor do I have a /etc/init/gdm.conf
[13:12]  * BluesKaj hopes that command is still relevant
[13:12] <usr13> Deeewayne: Just kill X
[13:13] <usr13> Deeewayne: pkill X
[13:13] <Deeewayne> usr13, I want to disable from starting on system startup, not stop it manually each reboot
[13:13] <hfic> Deeewayne, why use desktop version then? .. Why not use ubuntu server
[13:14] <Dealizer> BluesKaj But doing that I assume apt may stop installing the list of packages (?)
[13:14] <Jettis> Deeewayne you should find lightdm.conf
[13:14] <usr13> Deeewayne: Uninstall xorg
[13:14] <usr13> xserver-xorg
[13:15] <Deeewayne> Jettis, thanks
[13:15] <dr_willis> !text
[13:15] <BluesKaj> Dealizer, I assume synaptic crashed , but is locking access to dpkg
[13:15] <dr_willis> text mode = no lightdm started
[13:15] <WDKevin> Other than XMPP, is there a simple, secure instant messaging server I can use?
[13:16] <Deeewayne> I have ubuntu server but installed (apt-get install ubuntu-desktop) yesterday because I thought I needed it to get around some vmware workstation 9 issues.  Now I don't want it and would prefer to remove the ubuntu-desktop entirely.  Is there an easy way to remove ubuntu-desktop ?
[13:16] <ViaNocturna> Dealizer: Try this link, it's aimed at a locked apt: http://askubuntu.com/questions/15433/fixing-could-not-get-lock-var-lib-dpkg-lock
[13:16] <dr_willis> !fixapt
[13:17] <serdotlinecho> Dealizer: type in terminal : sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock
[13:19] <sogeking99> Anyone know another place I might ask?
[13:20] <Dealizer> BluesKaj, ViaNocturna, serdotlinecho: Thanks! removing  /var/lib/dpkg/lock  was the solution!
[13:20] <BluesKaj> sogeking99, ask what ?
[13:20] <ViaNocturna> Dealizer: you're welcome
[13:20] <BluesKaj> Dealizer, np
[13:20] <digitaljedi> whats up all? :)
[13:20] <serdotlinecho> sogeking99: askubuntu.com, ubuntuforums.org
[13:21] <sogeking99> BluesKaj,  I want to migrate my install from wubi to be a dual boot. When I installed it I choose a small, partition, around 30GB. I am following these instructions: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi I see sda4 matches that size, but has mount point as '/host'
[13:22] <sogeking99> is that what i want to use?
[13:22] <BluesKaj> sogeking99, no mountpoint should be changed to just /
[13:24] <usr13> sogeking99: Did you create your swap and root partitions?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> sogeking99, but that might just be a temporary mountpoint until all is trnsferred to the new partition
[13:24] <sogeking99> usr13, no, I think wubi handled everything
[13:25] <usr13> sogeking99: Oh? "This document describes how to migrate a Wubi install to partition. The partition(s) must be created already."
[13:25] <sogeking99> BluesKaj, do you think I should just try? 'owner@ubuntu:~/Downloads/wubi-move-2.2$ sudo bash wubi-move-2.2.sh /dev/sda4'
[13:25] <usr13> sogeking99: I've never done this before, but the first paragraph indicates, (to me), that you have to first create the partitions.
[13:26] <sogeking99> usr13, yeah, it is a partition I had on my windows install. I believe wubi is using a lot of the space
[13:26] <LennyLinux> Hi, i installed the ruby1.9.1-examples package and tried to find the examples with locate command, but it didn't work. How or where can i find the installed examples?
[13:27] <BluesKaj> sogeking99, in order to dual boot you need a separate ext partition for ubuntu to be copied to
[13:27] <usr13> "The examples shown below assume the target partition is /dev/sda5 and the swap partition (if required) is /dev/sda6."  So the question is, how many partitions do you have now?
[13:27] <Ora3232> LennyLinux: The package manager can tell you where things are installed
[13:27] <Ora3232> LennyLinux: rtfm for the command
[13:27] <Nunners> Can someone provide some assistance setting up vsftpd so that I can access sftp owned directories?!
[13:28] <LennyLinux> Ora3232: which command sorry?
[13:29] <sogeking99> BluesKaj, the only free one is this 30GB one, which is where wubi installed ubuntu. So I need to make a new partition somehow?
[13:29] <LennyLinux> Ora3232: aptitude?
[13:29] <sogeking99> usr13, sorry.
[13:30] <Ora3232> LennyLinux: dpkg -L <package name>
[13:30] <usr13> sogeking99: Maybe the script does create partitions but I doubt it because you can not re-partition when the existing ones are mounted unless you have free (unused/unpartitioned) space on your HD.
[13:30] <flrns> how do i install a printer (samsung ml 1670) using the splix package?
[13:30] <flrns> or splix driver
[13:30] <Ora3232> LennyLinux: You can also do it by right clicking on the package in Synaptic (don't think there's an equivalent in the dumbed down Ubuntu software thing)
[13:30] <flrns> i just installed the package, but the driver doenst appear in the "install driver" dialog
[13:30] <usr13> sogeking99: How big is your hard drive?
[13:31] <LennyLinux> Ora3232: ok, thanks.
[13:32] <sogeking99> usr13,  my two TB HDD's are pretty full, but I might be able to spare another 30GB, first I must shrink one right?
[13:32] <BobMarley> i am trying to do some steps fromthe following tutorial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity/101415#101415
[13:32] <BobMarley> and i am not able to pen the myunity
[13:33] <BluesKaj> sogeking99, that tutorial seems risky to me , save your data in a separate dir in windows then use gparted to set up proper partitons for windows and linux , then use the live media to install the ubuntu OS , that would be the best method You can transfer your data from the saved windows dir /folder to ubuntu very easliy after the install
[13:34] <usr13> sogeking99: Yes, you need to boot from liveCD and shrink one or more partitions in order to make at least 30G free space.  (I recommend more, much more.)
[13:35] <usr13> sogeking99: Now I am not an authority on migraging wubi.  Like I said, I've never done it.  But I do know how to re-partition and make room for a Linux install, so...
[13:35] <sogeking99> okay thanks guys
[13:35] <Marzata> how is "who am i" in ubuntu linux?
[13:35] <usr13> who
[13:36] <Marzata> who is who
[13:36] <LorSamPau_w_> The who is who
[13:36] <Marzata> but the unix "who am i"?
[13:36] <compdoc> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=19wUwIOnj-U
[13:36] <compdoc> ooops, sorry
[13:36] <compdoc> its whoami
[13:37] <usr13> Yea, whoami
[13:37] <usr13> same
[13:37] <usr13> Marzata: whoami
[13:38] <usr13> Nakkel: It's the same
[13:38] <usr13> Marzata: But who just gives all that is logged in and where.
[13:39] <BobMarley>  i am trying to do some steps fromthe following tutorial: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity/101415#101415
[13:39] <BobMarley>  and i am not able to pen the myunity
[13:42] <tuananhtdt> df
[13:42] <tuananhtdt> jjj
[13:42] <tuananhtdt> ping
[13:43] <tuananhtdt> f
[13:43] <tuananhtdt> fff
[13:43] <tuananhtdt> fff
[13:43] <tuananhtdt> hello every body
[13:46] <sootsfsnet> #centos /j
[13:47] <BobMarley> myunity was not installed on my pc, i solved my problem
[13:47] <Tuccuay> 啦啦啦德玛西亚～
[13:47] <andrews> Hey all - would anyone be able to tell me, roughly, how to connect my brand new installation of 11.04 (latest didnt work very well) laptop to my works windows 2003 server network (I know my unser names, the domain name etc I just dont know how to 'get there')
[13:48] <BobMarley> anyway, i would like to make the unity even smaller than available
[13:49] <subdesign> i get File Exists error making a symlink, any idea why?
[13:50] <fidel> BobMarley: talking now about the unity-dock?
[13:50] <BobMarley> fidel, yes
[13:57] <klj613> hello. how do i forward my SSH keys whilst ssh'ing? so me -> vm -> server. thanks :)
[13:57] <^DEMOSS^> i do it is #mount /dev/sda1 /mnt   #mount -t proc none /mnt/proc   #mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev    now i wanna mount dev/sda5 - were i have /usr partition. what command i need to use for mount /dev/sda5 to /mnt and have scripts on mnt ( i wanna chroot and reinstall grub )
[14:02] <fishcooker> i've looking for sun-java6-jre from this repo http://archive.canonical.com/pool/partner/s/skype/
[14:02] <fishcooker> but nothing here
[14:03] <ikonia> fishcooker: it won't be in there
[14:03] <fishcooker> where is it
[14:03] <^DEMOSS^> were is all helpers ? )
[14:03] <auronandace> !java
[14:04] <ikonia> ^DEMOSS^: the channel has 1400+ people in it, if you ask a question, people will help if they can
[14:04] <^DEMOSS^> i do it is #mount /dev/sda1 /mnt   #mount -t proc none /mnt/proc   #mount -o bind /dev /mnt/dev    now i wanna mount dev/sda5 - were i have /usr partition. what command i need to use for mount /dev/sda5 to /mnt and have scripts on mnt ( i wanna chroot and reinstall grub ) Help please ^) i wanna go to home and eat my dinner )
[14:05] <ikonia> ^DEMOSS^: you've already mounted /dev/sda1 to /mnt - you can't mount /dev/sda5 there
[14:06] <^DEMOSS^> in dev/sda1 i have a root system ( / ) in dev/sda5 i have /usr.
[14:06] <joeblow> you can create multiple folders under /mnt and then mount thema all under /mnt
[14:06] <ikonia> ^DEMOSS^: ok, so you want to mount it on /mnt/usr , not /mnt
[14:06] <^DEMOSS^> i need write #mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/usr ?
[14:07] <tykim> hello
[14:07] <geirha> ^DEMOSS^: yes, mount /dev/sda1 /mnt && mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/usr
[14:07] <ratcheer> Yes, but first you need to: mkdir /mnt/usr
[14:08] <tykim> im trying to use playonlinux but i need to install raw3patch
[14:08] <tykim> i have no idea how to do it can anyone help me?
[14:08] <^DEMOSS^> o_O special devise does not exist (/dev/sda5) oO
[14:09] <^DEMOSS^> oh its ok /dev/sda5 )
[14:11] <tykim> does anyone know about raw 3 patch?
[14:13] <joeblow> raw3 patch install http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBBvNLXLels
[14:13] <ben__> ?
[14:17] <dn4> why does ubuntu need to upgrade flash; and I cannot find an upgrade for youtube
[14:19] <nsx> flash on linux is discontinued anyway
[14:19] <nsx> basically, if you want flash in linux, use chrome.
[14:19] <dn4> then how does one view youtube with out flash?
[14:19] <nsx> use chrome.
[14:19] <nsx> google has a special license to bundle flash within chrome.
[14:20] <nsx> it's the only way you're going to be able to keep an updated web flash player in linux from here on out.
[14:20] <dn4> hmmm what will replace flash in the future?
[14:20] <nsx> the linux/NSAPI flash is completely dead, though
[14:20] <dn4> since linux discontinued it
[14:20] <nsx> linux didn't discontinue it.. adobe discontinued NSAPI flash on linux
[14:21] <Pici> nsx: dn4: There are still flash packages available for Ubuntu.
[14:21] <dn4> oh well that is a conundrum if ever.
[14:21] <Pici> dn4: Perhaps you should clarify what you mean by "why does ubuntu need to upgrade flash"?
[14:21] <nsx> Pici: I never said they weren't.  but they're already obsolete.
[14:22] <nsx> Pici: and any site that requires the latest version will not work with them
[14:22] <nsx> chrome is the only recourse
[14:22] <dn4> I just installed; went to youtube; needs latest flash; had to install a package
[14:22] <dn4> no worries I figured it out
[14:22] <nsx> I think it's a lost cause to even worry about the NSAPI flash plugin anymore.
[14:23] <joeblow> just install the Restricted Extras package on ubuntu
[14:23] <nsx> not only are you opening yourself up to security vulnerabilities, you're quickly going to find that it won't work with a lot of sites.
[14:23] <dr_willis> joeblow:  insuall the 'ubuntu-restricted-extras' package
[14:23] <Pici> nsx: while updates are no longer viable, I don't think that dn4 was actually looking for an update, but rather the initial install of flash.
[14:24] <dr_willis> joeblow:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[14:24] <dn4> hmmm security issues T_T
[14:24] <Pici> dn4: Agreed.
[14:24] <joeblow> someone was having a problem with youtube and flash
[14:25] <sebas_> Hello all :) I've just downloaded Ubuntu Beta 1 and it does not start completley. Graphics are messed up.. any way to get it started? (I use nvidia graphics)
[14:26] <hfic> sebas_, #ubuntu+1
 - most ubuntu betas have video problems, I would start in video compat mode
[14:26] <Pici> : Quantal/12.10 is not yet released. Please join #ubuntu+1 for further support and discussion.
[14:27] <Ora3232> sebas_: Report any bugs you experience to launchpad
[14:27] <Ora3232> sebas_: You could test a newer version of the nouveau driver if you're so inclined
[14:29] <Wishing> user account issue
[14:29] <Wishing> i want to add another user
[14:29] <dn4> is java bad to install?
[14:30] <TheLordOfTime> dn4:  no, just harder...
[14:30] <dn4> I want to access this website problem with www.w4ax.com
[14:30] <TheLordOfTime> !java | dn4
[14:30] <^DEMOSS^> ok now i have a error - thats not list of partition found when do #update grub
[14:30] <Ora3232> Wishing: Have you tried google? This is fairly trivial
[14:30] <Wishing> my password is not working for sudo tasks
[14:30] <^DEMOSS^> What i need to do ?
[14:31] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  pastebin the exact commands and exact error messages
[14:32] <Wishing> Ora3232, what is the command line for adding another user to the system
[14:32] <^DEMOSS^> uff i try it
[14:32] <dr_willis> Wishing:    sudo adduser billgates              or similer.
[14:32] <joeblow> Wishing or Ora3232 - you can use useradd or adduser
[14:33] <sebas_> Ora3232: thanx and I might try that one if I can find out how to start Ubuntu in videocompat. mode
[14:33] <Wishing> Master is not in the sudoers file.  This incident will be reported.
[14:34] <hfic> !sudoers
[14:34] <hfic> tsk
[14:34] <dr_willis> Wishing:  so what have you done to the system lately? you semed to broke sudo
[14:35] <fabrizio-smisci> !list
[14:35] <Wishing> dr_willis, well i tried to enable the root account but it didn't allow me
[14:35] <dr_willis> Wishing:  and how exactly did you try?
[14:35] <finga_> hi i use mixxx as dj software, but cannot find my cdrom, how can i make it work?
[14:36] <bobweaver> finga_,  cd /media && ls        is it there ?
[14:36] <dr_willis> finga_:  normally its /dev/cdrom but in some cases ive seen it be /devcdrom0 or cdrom1,   /dev/sr0 should also be the optical drive
[14:36] <dr_willis> you dont mount music cds
[14:37] <Wishing> dr_willis, i logged into kde interface and then from user account settings, i tried to enable root account
[14:37] <finga_> bobweaver, dr_willis: no its in cdda://sr0/ in nautilus but with drag and drop mixx says it cannot find the location
[14:37] <dr_willis> some tools can sort of fake-mount them so you see the music as files.
[14:37] <Wishing> i did allow me to enable the root account
[14:37] <hfic> Wishing, you don't get removed from a sudoers account by clicking thru menus.
[14:37] <Wishing> dr_willis, i did allow me to enable the root account
[14:37] <dn4> is ubuntu one free?
[14:37] <dr_willis> finga_:  because cdda: is a specual type url.
[14:38] <Calinou> dn4, yes
[14:38] <Wishing> hfic, well thats what i did
[14:38] <dr_willis> finga_:  tell it /dev/cdrom perhaps
[14:38] <hfic> Wishing, you removed yourself from the sudoers group by not using the appropriate group flags.
[14:38] <dn4> is ubuntu one use to spy on your stuff? can I trust it?
[14:38] <dr_willis> finga_:  or /dev/sr0
[14:38] <dr_willis> dn4:  yes and yes
[14:38] <dr_willis> and yes..
[14:38] <hfic> Wishing, It's really the only way I can even see someone getting removed from the sudoers group
[14:38] <Wishing> hfic, so now what to do?
[14:38] <finga_> dr_willis sr0 and cdrom in /dev are both not there
[14:39] <dr_willis> ubuntu one works fine.. its free.. if you want encrypt your stuff
[14:39] <hfic> Wishing, the easiest way to fix is either load up a livecd and edit the sudoers file.
[14:39] <dr_willis> finga_:  that is weird.
[14:39] <joeblow> Wishing - for now I would change the root password by using the passwd command until sudo is fixed
[14:39] <finga_> dr_willis jup xD
[14:39] <sambagirl> i am having so much trouble with warty warthog. Seveas are you here?
[14:39] <hfic> Wishing, OR use another user account that has sudo access and readd yourself to the admin group
[14:39] <dr_willis> finga_:  pop in cd. check dmesg command for errors perhaps
[14:39] <Wishing> hfic, edit the file! how?
[14:40] <sambagirl> how do you get compiz to work in warty?
[14:40] <hfic> Wishing, Like I said use a LiveCD and edit the file.
[14:40] <dr_willis> !warty
[14:40] <dr_willis> you dont.
[14:40] <Wishing> hfic, whats the command to edit the file?
[14:40] <^DEMOSS^> http://pastebin.com/2UnHhHyt - this is all command as i use
[14:41] <joeblow> Wishing check visudo and see what group is enabled for sudo access and then edit /etc/group to make sure your user is in the group
[14:41] <finga_> dr_willis: dmesg throws no error with cdrom
[14:41] <hfic> Wishing, or use a user who's still in the sudoers group and add the removed user thru cli.
[14:41] <sambagirl> well heck dr_wilis they sent like a huge box of every type of processor cd of it and we were looking thru the box
[14:41] <gediminas>  how to turn off that automatic microphone controlling?
[14:41] <^DEMOSS^> dr_willis: what do you think about it ?
[14:41] <hfic> Wishing, sudo nano /etc/sudoers
[14:41] <gediminas> Who can help me? ;[
[14:42] <sambagirl> what is your problama geriminas?
[14:42] <gediminas>  how to turn off that automatic microphone controlling?
[14:42] <Aress> =[
[14:42] <sambagirl> what ver?
[14:42] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  there was no need to set a root password. and it looksa like your windos partitions are all messed up or partioned weirdly
[14:42] <^DEMOSS^> Aress: where microfone  autocontrolling ?
[14:42] <Aress> when you talk it reduces the volume
[14:42] <Aress> of microphone
[14:42] <Aress> so another person can't hear me :[
[14:43] <sambagirl> well maybe that's good aress
[14:43] <^DEMOSS^> dr_willis: all parttitions are ext3
[14:43] <dr_willis> finga_:  does the cd evn spin up? can  the media players play it
[14:43] <hfic> Aress, is this only happening in a specific application ?.. like Skype maybe?
[14:43] <Aress> I want to control it myself
[14:43] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  whats the  original problem then?
[14:43] <^DEMOSS^> dr_willis: i need delete /boot folder and reinstall grub again ?
[14:43] <Aress> it happens on linux :D
[14:43] <sambagirl> well
[14:44] <Aress> when I open microphone options it shows that it reduces the volume of microphone
[14:44] <sambagirl> you say only in linux?
[14:44] <sambagirl> what version?
[14:44] <finga_> dr_willis: yea autostart is working and i can play it in vlc, i also tried to cope the path from vlc to mixxx, but its not working either
[14:44] <Aress> I had same problem before ~1 year
[14:44] <Aress> but i don't remmeber
[14:44] <joeblow> finga - did you try sudo update-grub
[14:44] <^DEMOSS^> Aress: original - i have problem with grub
[14:44] <sambagirl> what version?
[14:44] <dr_willis> finga_:  what path did vlc use?
[14:44] <Aress> how i fixed it :[ I'm using Linux Mint 13
[14:45] <delinquentme> is there a way I can ping a host to see what kind of server it is?
[14:45] <sambagirl> your in the wrong channel
[14:45] <Aress> It's the same as ubuntu
[14:45] <finga_> joeblow: what has grub to do with that?
[14:45] <sambagirl> it is mint not ubuntu
[14:45] <hfic> Aress, no it's not
[14:45] <auronandace> Aress: no it isn't
[14:45] <Aress> all packaged how many i saw named ubuntu
[14:45] <Aress> packages*
[14:45] <sambagirl> that;s llike saying a yugo is the same as a ferrari :D
[14:46] <finga_> dr_willis: cdda:///dev/sr0
[14:46] <joeblow> finga - I thought you were having a problem with grub, sorry
[14:46] <finga_> joeblow: np ;)
[14:47] <dr_willis> finga_:  and ls -l /dev/sr0   shows nothing?
[14:47] <brontosaurusrex> sambagirl, its more like yugo vs yugo florida
[14:47] <Aress> But options with microphone is same as in ubuntu..
[14:47] <hfic> Aress, Your using a different distro which isn't supported in this channel.
[14:47] <^DEMOSS^> help me 8(
[14:47] <Aress> I FIXED IT MYSELF
[14:47] <finga_> dr_willis: it shows just /dev/sr0
[14:48] <sambagirl> i dont get it fred flintstone?
[14:48] <Aress> Thanks :D
[14:48] <sambagirl> good baby aress now go take a nap :)
[14:48] <finga_> dr_willis: and /dev/sr0/ says its not a folder
[14:48] <Aress> Wanna die?
[14:48] <^DEMOSS^> ok now i have a error - thats not list of partition found when do #update grub
[14:48] <sambagirl> sue have any DMT?
[14:48] <finga_> dr_willis ahhh now i have it lol
[14:48] <^DEMOSS^> http://pastebin.com/2UnHhHyt - this is all command as i use
[14:48] <dr_willis> finga_:  thats because its NOT a folder. its a device
[14:48] <dr_willis> ;)
[14:48] <Aress> I will make it :D
[14:49]  * sambagirl grins :D
[14:49] <finga_> dr_willis: yea i think i can also mount it in shell but its for a user who as no idea about the shell
[14:49] <dr_willis> ^DEMOSS^:  i would guess that you got some weird hard drive parrtitions going on.
[14:49] <dr_willis> finga_:  you do NOT mount a music cd.
[14:50] <finga_> dr_willis: aha ok, but any way i cant use it in mixxx
[14:50] <dr_willis>  you tell the app the cd is at /dev/sr0 or /dev/cdrom  and it should figure it out
[14:50] <dr_willis> no idea what mixx wants
[14:50] <dr_willis> if it wants audio files. you rip the cd to the proper files/format
[14:50] <finga_> dr_willis: ok ^^ i will try #mixxx too thx a lot anyhow
[14:51] <freakolowsky> lo
[14:52] <finga_> dr_willis: yea that will be the workaround xD
[14:52] <tuffgong> asking for php assistance
[14:53] <tuffgong> asking for php assistance
[14:53] <freakolowsky> i have 4x2G DDR3 1333 RAM ... setup in dual channel ... why am i getting max 10G/s bandwidth?
[14:53] <Pricey> tuffgong: /join ##php
[14:53] <tuffgong> thanx Pricey
[14:54] <samsamsupersam> i have /home on its own partition. does growing that partition left mess with the data?
[14:55] <deadmund> samsamsupersam: no
[14:55] <samsamsupersam> deadmund: thanks
[14:55] <Pricey> samsamsupersam: I'm intrigued as to what method you're using to resize 'left'?
[14:56] <samsamsupersam> Pricey: gparted. i have a partition before it that i've cleared out
[14:56] <deadmund> Pricey: I'm assuming he has unallocated disc space
[14:57] <tuffgong> Pricey, failed to deliver me to the php  channel
[14:57] <Pricey> samsamsupersam: oh, i guess you're going to 'move' it first, then resize it...
[14:57] <iNTEl> any one playing conquer online here ?
[14:57] <samsamsupersam> Pricey: yup
[14:57] <iNTEl> cuz i wanna play it and it .exe
[14:57] <iNTEl> so i don't know what should i do ? XD
[14:58] <Pricey> iNTEl: Check out http://appdb.winehq.org/
[14:58] <Pricey> deadmund: Right, but resizing 'left' isn't really possible, which was my confusion.
[14:58] <deadmund> Pricey: I think he means 'left over' not 'in the left-ward direction'
[14:59] <EroXXX> Hi. I've closed out myself out of the sudoers File and the grub recovery is not shown up as a possibility at startup. Is there a way to fix it?
[14:59] <Pricey> deadmund: I don't think that interpretation makes sense in the original question.
[14:59] <samsamsupersam> deadmund: it is in the left-ward direction
[14:59] <MonkeyDust> EroXXX  use a live cd or usb, edit the sudo-file on your hdd
[15:00] <Pricey> EroXXX: Are you sure grub isn't? hammer Esc?
[15:00] <unless> How do I search for a given package I want to install?
[15:00] <MonkeyDust> unless  apt-cache search
[15:00] <Pricey> EroXXX: If you can get a grub menu, you can always edit the boot parameters to boot into a single user mode... but if you've a live cd handy then that's probably an easier way to go.
[15:01] <deadmund> Pricey: samsamsupersam In that case, you'll notice that gparted will take a LONG TIME to repartition because it will have to copy all that data to a new physical location on the disc (left-ward).  This has a higher chance of data-loss but if the re-partitioning does not fail there should be no data loss.
[15:01] <EroXXXi> Ok, but is there another way? I'm in the train now and have nothing with me and need to work with the Laptop now
[15:02] <iNTEl> pricey : is it will work
[15:02] <iNTEl> ?
[15:02] <iNTEl> its looks like 110 MB
[15:02] <Pricey> iNTEl: Have you searched wine's app database for your application?
[15:02] <Pricey> iNTEl: The link I gave you?
[15:03] <zanybrain> EroXXXi: give the left shift key a try just after POST … just hold it down
[15:03] <iNTEl> ya
[15:04] <iNTEl> pricey : its not in top 25
[15:04] <iNTEl> pricey : i see another way to make it work
[15:04] <iNTEl> but its need playonlinux
[15:04] <Pricey> iNTEl: search for it
[15:04] <iNTEl> and wine together
[15:04] <deadmund> unless: aptitude search <package name guess>
[15:04] <deadmund> unless: without the <'s
[15:04] <iNTEl> i searched but i found only hard way
[15:04] <iNTEl> pricey : would u like 2 take the link
[15:05] <ikonia> iNTEl: how hard is this to grasp
[15:05] <ikonia> iNTEl: search the link Pricey gave you for your game
[15:05] <ikonia> iNTEl: that will tell you if it's supported
[15:05] <iNTEl> ikonia : am gonna 2
[15:05] <Pricey> iNTEl: wine is free. There are other alternatives such as crossover (a commercial version of wine) which have their own app databases.
[15:06] <Pyr0_Audax> a
[15:06] <ikonia> iNTEl: right - so until you've searched the link and found out it's support status, there is no point having additional discussion
[15:06] <Pyr0_Audax> why is my name grey?
[15:06] <iNTEl> pricey , ikonia : https://www.google.com.eg/#hl=ar&q=conquer+online+on+ubuntu&oq=conquer+online+on+ub&gs_l=serp.3.0.0i30.11840.14000.0.15192.11.9.1.1.1.0.221.1191.4j4j1.9.0...0.0...1c.1.GDCX3ClwmGE&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.&fp=f1348b7686edce2&biw=975&bih=646
[15:07] <deadmund> Pyr0_Audax: it's only grey from your perspective.
[15:07] <ikonia> iNTEl: again - not what you where told to do
[15:07] <dr_willis> Pyr0_Audax:  its hot pink here
[15:07] <ikonia> iNTEl: search the database
[15:07] <ikonia> iNTEl: nothing else
[15:07] <Pyr0_Audax> cool
[15:07] <deadmund> Pyr0_Audax: Your client is doing it for you.
[15:07] <iNTEl> k
[15:07] <iNTEl> ikonia : relax , XD
[15:07] <Pricey> Pyr0_Audax: Most channels on the network are +c which blocks colour from being sent to the channel.
[15:07] <ikonia> iNTEl: I am relaxed,
[15:07] <Pyr0_Audax> oh, ok
[15:08] <Pricey> Pyr0_Audax: You can see what modes are set on the channel with '/mode #channel'
[15:08] <Pyr0_Audax> ok ill try that
[15:08] <Pricey> Pyr0_Audax: Nicknames themselves will never be coloured by others... nor will any status messages such as join/parts/quits/kicks/mode changes etc. etc. They are all down to the client to do what they want with.
[15:09] <Pricey> Pyr0_Audax: The contents of messages though are fair game... though as I said, because this channel is +c, clients that allow you to "colour" text... won't work.
[15:09] <Pyr0_Audax> wat does  Channel #ubuntu modes: +CLcntjf 5:10 #ubuntu-unregged
[15:09] <Pyr0_Audax> * Channel #ubuntu created on Sat Nov 25 22:42:41 2006 mean
[15:09] <Pricey> Pyr0_Audax: +CLcntjf - each one of those is a different channel mode. http://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml
[15:09] <Pyr0_Audax> ok
[15:10] <iNTEl> ikonia : i think the wine doesn't support it
[15:10] <ikonia> iNTEl: there you go then
[15:10] <ikonia> that is your answer
[15:12] <ikonia> id
[15:12] <ikonia> oops
[15:14] <Wishing> dr_willis, how do i edit sudoers file if i am logged in using usb stick. what is the command in cli
[15:14] <Pricey> Hang on... iNTEl... isn't this game a browser game?
[15:14] <Pricey> iNTEl: is it even released yet?
[15:15] <Wishing> how do i edit sudoers file if i am logged in using usb stick. what is the command in cli
[15:15] <seednode> sudo visudo?
[15:16] <Pricey> Wishing: I'd "chroot /path/to/mounted/root" then "visudo"
[15:16] <Pricey> seednode: that would change the sudoers file on the usb stick
[15:16] <seednode> Well, I assumed he was already chrooted.
[15:16] <SilfenX> Hell! I just installed Pangolin Server and wanted to add the Gnome3 desktop to it and followed these instructions (http://pastebin.com/ADLYP2M5) but when the machine reboots I still end up at the CLI loginprompt. I'd be much obliged if someone could help me get the machine to boot the Gnome3 desktop properly.
[15:16] <seednode> I'd think you'd do that first thing when repairing a borked install.
[15:17] <Pricey> seednode: if chrooted, why the sudo ;)
[15:18] <killer_> is there any software that converts .doc to .pdf
[15:18] <Marzata> what viewer opens WBMP files?
[15:18] <killer_> is there any software that converts .doc to .pdf
[15:19] <Marzata> killer_: LibreOffice Writer
[15:22] <menace> hey, i have an installation script, which i want to automate with expect. but after some user input, the script does not install the files of the installation program, but outputs every data... any idea why that/what happens?
[15:23] <killer_> thanx Marzata
[15:25] <alecb> I just got a new t430 which can't seem to connect reliably to certain wifi networks that work fine in windows (though some do work well in ubuntu, like my personal wifi). I went though some steps with someone else on here before and I think we concluded that I am using the proprietary drivers in ubuntu. any ideas on what the problem might be?
[15:25] <ikonia> alecb: I'm using a t430s and I have zero issues at all
[15:26] <ikonia> alecb: I believe the 430's come with intel wifi cards, so I'd be surprised if you where using a propitary driver
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> alecb: what driver does the wifi use?
[15:26] <TheLordOfTime> alecb:  pastebin the output of lspci please, it should list your wifi card in there
[15:27] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebin | alecb
[15:28] <joelio> hrm, new install on new laptop (lenove x220) is spamming the console/logs with USB errors - on latest 12.04 kernel
[15:28] <joelio> hub 1-1:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 3
[15:28] <ikonia> joelio: what device is plugged in
[15:28] <alecb> TheLordOfTime: are there other commands I should run after that? It's easier if you give me a bunch of commands at once since I'm in windows and I need to switch back every time
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> joelio: are there any bugs reported?
[15:28] <ikonia> joelio: that's a usb3 device port isn't it
[15:28] <joelio> ikonia: there are no devices plugged in
[15:28] <TheLordOfTime> alecb:  unfortunately, we have to ID the card before we can give you a diagnostic :/
[15:28] <ikonia> I don't see those on my x220
[15:29] <TheLordOfTime> alecb:  if we don't know the exact card, well...
[15:29] <ikonia> joelio: it's a usb3 device though there is a usb3 port on the x220
[15:29] <TheLordOfTime> (this is why ethernet exists, btw)
[15:29] <dr_willis> joelio:  seen similer when i had a laptop with a flakey webcam built in
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> joelio: what is the output of:  lsb_release -sc
[15:30] <ikonia> dr_willis: good spot, device 3 on bus 1 is the web cam
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> joelio: and the output of:  uname -a
[15:30] <joelio> ActionParsnip: preciser
[15:31] <joelio> precise even
[15:31] <dr_willis> i had to edit /etc/sysconfig (?) i recall to reduce the kernel logging level..  and smack the laptop to get the webcam working...
[15:31] <joelio> Linux rd31523 3.2.0-26-generic #41-Ubuntu SMP Thu Jun 14 17:49:24 UTC 2012 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[15:31] <dr_willis> loose cable i think it had.
[15:31] <ikonia> dr_willis: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 147e:2020 Upek
[15:31] <ikonia> bravo
[15:32] <ikonia> the other possibility is the fingerprint reader isn't configured
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> joelio: latest precise kernel is 3.2.0.30   you may want to run updates:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[15:32] <Guest22660> hello, trying to connect a sata ssd drive on an old ide motherboard using an adapter. the hard drive is recognized in bios and gparted but afer a random few seconds aprox. 1 minute ubuntu live cd freezes. any idea?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest22660: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest22660: did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> Guest22660: is the adapter connection sound?
[15:33] <compdoc> Guest22660, sounds like a bad idea
[15:33] <joelio> ActionParsnip: hrm, I use my own internal mirror that's just been updated via apt-mirror this morning and just again (to ensure it was current)
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest22660: have you tested your RAM using memtest86+ from Grub?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> !info linux-image-generic | joelio
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> joelio: your kernel isn't the newest for your release
[15:34] <Guest22660> ActionParsnip , what do you mean by is the adapter connection sound?
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> Guest22660: pushed in fully, solid etc
[15:35] <joelio> ActionParsnip: ok, let me change soruces and check again
[15:35] <Guest22660> ActionParsnip , it is
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> Guest22660: and my other questions...?
[15:36] <Guest22660> ActionParsnip , tryed everything nothing worked
[15:36] <roasted> hello!
[15:36] <ActionParsnip> Guest22660: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[15:36]  * joelio has a feeling apt-mirror has broken itself and isn't updating
[15:36] <Wishing> how do i add a new user in cli, i am logged in using a usb pen drive...
[15:36]  * joelio grmbles
[15:37] <Guest22660> ActionParsnip , i mean it has to be something else, maybe it s just incompatibility
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: sudo adduser nameofuser
[15:37] <roasted> Question - I downloaded a program which runs by executing it via "./nameoffile".... I was going to just map a keyboard shortcut to it so I don't have to launch it via terminal each time, but I Got to wondering - is there a way to include this particular application within my application menu of Unity?
[15:37] <dr_willis> Wishing:  chroot into the installed system then use adduser as root
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest22660: but did you test it, it's a simple questin
[15:37] <Guest22660> ActionParsnip , i did
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest22660: finally
[15:37] <OerHeks> Guest22660, if the ssd is Sata3, that could be a problem
[15:37] <Wishing> ActionParsnip, i am running ubuntu thru a usb stick not from actual hd
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest22660: did you burn the CD as slowly as possible?
[15:38] <dr_willis> roasted:  make a proper whatever.desktop file for it and copy that .desktop fine to the right location
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: then you will need to chroot, why not boot to root recovery mode on the installed OS and do it there instead?
[15:38] <Guest22660> ActionParsnip , i did burn slowly as possible , it s sata 2
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Guest22660: what is?
[15:38] <Wishing> ActionParsnip, what is chroot?
[15:38] <roasted> dr_willis: ahh, .desktop files. right. do I need to create one based on specific parameters? Or is a .desktop file just some sort of link?
[15:38] <Guest22660> ActionParsnip , the ssd drive
[15:38] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: where you switch the system your commands act on from the live USB to the installed OS, very powerful
[15:38] <dr_willis> roasted:  its a file.. your system had 100's of them.
[15:39] <MonkeyDust> Wishing an installation inside an installation, so to say
[15:39] <dr_willis> roasted:  look at gedit.desktop for an example
[15:39] <ActionParsnip> roasted: if you copy one from ~/.config/autorun you can modify it and throw it in /usr/share/applications
[15:39] <roasted> dr_willis: I see that. I just ran locate .desktop in term. Quite a few different paths as well. Is there a specific path I should be looking for?
[15:39] <roasted> ActionParsnip: cool, thanks
[15:39] <Wishing> ActionParsnip, so how do i do chroot to add another user?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> roasted: you may need a script to cd to the containing folder first, then execute the binary if the pwd is significant
[15:40] <roasted> ActionParsnip: the autorun part has me a little lost tho.
[15:40] <dr_willis> roasted:  user made ones in .config/applications or .local/applications i recall
[15:40] <alecb> my lspci: http://paste.ubuntu.com/1200740/
[15:40] <roasted> dr_willis: are they a headache to create?
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: omgubuntu has a guide called 'sticking it to grub'   you can use that. You just need to change the word 'bind'  for '--bind' in the guide
[15:40] <dr_willis> roasted:  look at gedit.desktop and see.. rather trivial text file
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> roasted: the ones in ~/.config/autorun are simple, make a copy of one and you can edit it in your favourite text editor
[15:41] <roasted> ActionParsnip: I don't see autorun, though
[15:41] <heatmsier> anyone know much about wine in here
[15:41] <roasted> annnd he left....
[15:41] <heatmsier> is this the right place to talk about wine and ubuntuy?
[15:41] <heatmsier> is this the right place to talk about wine and ubuntu?
[15:41] <dr_willis> 90% of the desktop files ive seen are 90% translation lines. ;)
[15:42] <Pici> heatmsier: Depending on your question about wine, it may be better answered in #winehq.  Remeber that #ubuntu focusses on Ubuntu issues.
[15:44] <gr33n7007h> When in gnome-terminal I uncheck 'Show Menubar', menu dissapears. How do I keep it persistently??
[15:44] <TheLordOfTime> by not unchecking that?
[15:45] <anmelo> ciao
[15:45] <anmelo> !list
[15:45] <gr33n7007h> TheLordOfTime, I don't want the menu bar there
[15:45] <heatmsier> and another thing
[15:45] <heatmsier> I have ubuntu 12.04
[15:45] <Wishing> ActionParsnip, the guide on omg is about faulty grub, while i am facing a problem with user accounts.
[15:45] <heatmsier> and an intel i7 920
[15:45] <Pici> !enter
[15:45] <heatmsier> and ubuntu runs *painfully& slow
[15:45] <heatmsier> ubottu stfu
[15:45] <ververe> ubottu stfu
[15:45] <ververe> Acronyms or statements like noob, jfgi, stfu, or rtfm are not welcome in this channel. Period.
[15:45] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: read between the line
[15:45] <ververe> Wishing: read between the line
[15:46] <FloodBot1> ververe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:46] <ververe> ververe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: you are first making a chroot to THEN fix grub, but the first steps make a chroot, which is what you are wanting
[15:46] <ververe> Wishing: you are first making a chroot to THEN fix grub, but the first steps make a chroot, which is what you are wanting
[15:46] <heatmsier> I absolutely hate machines that try to emulate human beings
[15:46] <ververe> I absolutely hate machines that try to emulate human beings
[15:46] <FloodBot1> ververe: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:46] <Pici> heatmsier: I triggered the bot, because you are over using your enter key.
[15:46] <heatmsier> ververe, antother bot
[15:46] <ververe> heatmsier: I triggered the bot, because you are over using your enter key.
[15:46] <ververe> ververe, antother bot
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: just because a guide isn't 100% what you need, doesn't mean that some of the steps can help you, think about it
[15:46] <ververe> Wishing: just because a guide isn't 100% what you need, doesn't mean that some of the steps can help you, think about it
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Pici: thanks
[15:47] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: I know you don't have a grub issue, i read what you wanted earlier and the steps there get you to a chroot, which is desired
[15:47] <SilfenX> Hello! I just installed Pangolin Server and wanted to add the Gnome3 desktop to it and followed these instructions (http://pastebin.com/ADLYP2M5) but when the machine reboots I still end up at the CLI loginprompt. I'd be much obliged if someone could help me get the machine to boot the Gnome3 desktop properly.
[15:48] <Wishing> ActionParsnip, okay let me check that
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> SilfenX: why didn't you just install the desktop OS?
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: can you see why the page is useful now?
[15:48] <SilfenX> Wishing: Because I dont want the unity desktop
[15:48] <ActionParsnip> SilfenX: you don't have to use unity SHELL, Unity isn't a desktop
[15:49] <ActionParsnip> SilfenX: you can install Xubuntu and use XFCE desktop and Unity isn't even installed. Xubuntu is also fully support by the Ubuntu community and is also LTS
[15:50] <SilfenX> Ok, I ll keep that in mind until net time. Is there a way to get this installation to boot into Gone3, since it s all there already?
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> SilfenX: the Gnome3 desktop is also used in the default Ubuntu 12.04 install. Do you want to use Gnome-shell instead of Unity by any chance?
[15:50] <_adrian> hi
[15:50] <_adrian> i have got problem with lm-sensors
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> SilfenX: Gnome is and always has been the default DE in Ubuntu
[15:50] <mustu> hi i need to troubleshoot NFS connectivity..
[15:51] <mustu> showmount -r .. rpcinfo -p ... both commadn shows results for the remote host but when try tomoutn it says rpc timeout...
[15:51] <_adrian> after sudo modprobe w83627ehf, have got this error message FATAL: Error inserting w83627ehf (/lib/modules/3.2.0-30-generic/kernel/drivers/hwmon/w83627ehf.ko): Device or resource busy
[15:51] <dr_willis> SilfenX:  id purge that ppa and install the gnome-shell from the default repos. its possible that ppa is broken
[15:53] <SilfenX> dr_willis: you think that might be the reason for it not booting into the gnome shell/desktop?
[15:53] <dr_willis> SilfenX:  i just said its possible....
[15:53] <dr_willis> be sure you got lightdm installed also
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> SilfenX: if you added a ppa then yes its likely to be causing issues, gnome-shell is already in the ubuntu repos so is ready to install without adding anything
[15:53] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell | SilfenX
[15:54] <dr_willis> id also install ubuntu-desktop to make sure all needed extras have been installed as well
[15:54] <karamel4e> Any specific channel for data rescuing, hdd issues, etc?
[15:55] <SilfenX> ActionParsnip: Oh. So Gnome3 desktop is presented as an option durning the desktop version of Pangolin 12.04?
[15:55] <upset> Can I use gtk2 themes in 12.04?
[15:55] <SilfenX> *installation of
[15:57] <SilfenX> if the addition of the gnome3-team repo was causing issues I d be seeing that during boottime or would boot just default to CLI login prompt?
[15:58] <black_13> can the preseed file on the desktop iso be modified or if modified will it be used to preconfigure the install process?
[15:58] <xangua> SilfenX: no, Ubuntu already uses gnome3 ; i would just download and install ubuntu desktop iso and then install gnome shell
[15:59] <dr_willis> !prseed
[15:59] <dr_willis> !preseed
[15:59] <dr_willis> i think theres a factoid on that
[16:00] <dr_willis> !oem
[16:00] <Captain_Proton> what is the channel for beta
[16:00] <SilfenX> xangua: I d do that but I ran out of blanks when I did that with the server iso :P
[16:00] <wilee-nilee> Captain_Proton, #ubuntu+1
[16:00] <upset> Can I use GTK2 themes in Ubuntu 12.04?
[16:00] <dr_willis> upset:  i dont think so
[16:01] <Captain_Proton> wilee-nilee, thanks
[16:01] <sliddjur> I have a laptop that sound is turning on and off all the time. it makes a clicking sound. so i have to physically disable it each time... Its a hp compaq 6910p laptop.
[16:01] <dr_willis> most apps are gtk3 in it
[16:01] <upset> dr_willis: Do you know if it is possible to update them by hand?
[16:01] <sliddjur> it works fine when there is sound playing
[16:01] <dr_willis> upset:  make a new theme that looks like the old....
[16:01] <upset> dr_willis: Or if it is possible to force applications to use gtk2?
[16:02] <upset> dr_willis: You mean start from scratch? Are they so different I can't add/change some lines?
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> SilfenX: yes, it just uses the Unity shell by default, it still has gnome3 desktop installed
[16:02] <CatKiller> Hi there! I have a quick question about sockets in general. Let's imagine I have a synchronous (blocking) socket connected and waiting for data. Now I also catch user signals using signal.signal, and when catching a "kill" signal, I do "socket.close()". Because the "signal" is processed as an interrupt, it kills my socket "ungracefully". Is there any way to close it in a better way?
[16:02] <dr_willis> upset id say check askubuntu.com  themeing is complex to do it right
[16:02] <upset> dr_willis: Thanks
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> SilfenX: the default Gnome shell is...gnome-shell and is also available in the ubuntu repos
[16:02] <Punisher_> i've encountered a bizzarre error....when i log in to my ubuntu 11.10, it asks me to enter a keyring....what is that? since without entering the password i cannot use my drives to write on them
[16:02] <Punisher_> what should i do?
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Punisher_: you can set a blank keyring pass and it won't bother you
[16:03] <Wishing> ActionParsnip, what needs to be done after chroot is performed to add a new user?
[16:03] <CatKiller> Ignore my last question, wrong channel
[16:03] <dr_willis> enter your keyring password,, which seems you set to your normal password Punisher_
[16:03] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: run:  adduser newname
[16:03] <dr_willis> !keyring
[16:03] <Wishing> ActionParsnip, will this new user be a part of sudoers?
[16:04] <Igmu> Is there a better channel for assistance with a sound configuration issue on my Ubuntu 12.04 laptop?
[16:04] <dr_willis> lgmu the forums and askubuntu.com are worth checking out
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: no but if you run:   adduser name sudo        it will be able to use gk/sudo
[16:05] <ActionParsnip> Igmu: what is the issue?
[16:05] <Punisher_> ActionParsnip: so why is the reason that i cannot download with vuze because it says failed to create a....directory on a drive which has plenty free space and it used to download the same file on it...file partially downloaded
[16:05] <Wishing> ActionParsnip, explain ur last advice
[16:05] <Punisher_> ?
[16:06] <Punisher_> dr_willis: i did what u said but nothing came out of it....
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: the first command adds a normal user, the 2nd adds it so that it can use sudo and gksudo
[16:06] <Wishing> ActionParsnip, adduser jim sudo...........will be a part of sudoers..............cool
[16:06] <dr_willis> Punisher_:  did what exactly?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Punisher_: are you trying to save torrent data to an NTFS partition by any chance?
[16:06] <Punisher_> furthormore, i cannot remember seting such a password for my ubuntu
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: well, it will be part of the sudo group, which gives it access to sudo and gksudo
[16:07] <dr_willis> Punisher_: people tend to just enter their lgin password out of habbit when it first asks
[16:07] <Wishing> ActionParsnip, what about password for the new user..........is it blank/nothing?
[16:07] <Punisher_> dr_willis: i entered the same password i use to enter my ubuntu to the password field
[16:07] <Punisher_> ActionParsnip: Yes i do
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Wishing: you will be asked to set it when you make it, or you can run:  passwd username
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Punisher_: wanna know how I knew :)
[16:07] <ActionParsnip> Punisher_: did you mount the NTFS writable and writable as user
[16:07] <iNTEl> actionparsnip : hey
[16:08] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com has info on how to reset the gnome keyring. you just delete one file
[16:08] <Punisher_> dr_willis: yes you're right...i did the same but it has no results
[16:08] <heatmsier> wine
[16:08] <heatmsier> wine
[16:08] <heatmsier> wine
[16:08] <FloodBot1> heatmsier: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <Punisher_> ActionParsnip: yes i'm very eager to know how...and what is the problem
[16:08] <iNTEl> heatmsier : ??
[16:08] <luca> hi
[16:08] <iNTEl> heatmsier : why all that ?
[16:08] <heatmsier> I feel like killing someone, why are we treated like little kids on this channel?
[16:08] <iNTEl> luca : hey
[16:08] <ActionParsnip> Punisher_: using NTFS can be a pain and when users say they have issues doing basic data storage it is nearly always because they are using junky NTFS
[16:08] <Wishing> ActionParsnip, i am going to try this now, see u in a bit
[16:09] <iNTEl> ya
[16:09] <heatmsier> I have a problem with wine in ubuntu, and I am seeking support
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> iNTEl: howdy
[16:09] <dr_willis> heatmsier:  you were acting like one just now..
[16:09] <iNTEl> heatmsier : i agree
[16:09] <heatmsier> could someone please kindly point me in right direction
[16:09] <Punisher_> ActionParsnip: I mount it as usual....
[16:09] <dr_willis> !wine
[16:09] <iNTEl> ActionPasnip : am f9 , u ?
[16:09] <heatmsier> dr_willis, I am a grown adult, I can gladly think for myself
[16:09] <Punisher_> i have no idea
[16:09] <heatmsier> I don't need some machine pushing me around
[16:09] <dr_willis> heatmsier:  so spamming wine was a mistake?
[16:10] <heatmsier> hardly spam, 3 lines? calm down children
[16:10] <iNTEl> heatmsier : calm down , DUDE
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> Punisher_: I suggest you check the mount options, make sure it i swritable and writable by users. If the partition is USB based then be sure you use the safe remove option before you unplug it
[16:10] <Punisher_> ActionParsnip: so this problem arose suddenly? and what do u mean by Junky NTFS?
[16:10] <luca> how are you boys
[16:10] <luca> ?
[16:10] <heatmsier> so
[16:10] <iNTEl> ActionPasnip : i back with a new proplem XD
[16:10] <Igmu> Upon Plymouth, my sound is muted. When I wakeup from suspend, my sound indicator shows full volume but no sound. I must restart to regain sound & unmute. I'm using alsa. Should I look within a config settings file? I don't know logs or boot up order.
[16:10] <dr_willis> heatmsier:  the bot said where to go... #winehq
[16:10] <heatmsier> does anyone have any useful suggestions, I'm basically trying to unlock a motorala C39 and I have a windows executable which I need to port over a serial interface
[16:10] <heatmsier> so
[16:11] <heatmsier> there is my dilemma
[16:11] <rbrooks> hi can someone help?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Punisher_: NTFS cannot hold Linux permissions, so you need to set the file accessing at mount time to apply to the whole storage rather than granular settings like the Lnux file systems you have
[16:11] <Punisher_> ActionParsnip: how can i make sure that it is writable? no it's my hdd
[16:11] <IdleOne> heatmsier: How is that an Ubuntu issue?
[16:11] <heatmsier> I am in Ubuntu
[16:11] <Punisher_> ActionParsnip: how can i do that?
[16:11] <ActionParsnip> Igmu: what if you unload then reload the sound driver module then reload it, or try running:  kilall pulseaudio
[16:11] <IdleOne> heatmsier: but your issue is motorola/wine related. has nothing to do with Ubuntu
[16:12] <heatmsier> ok thanks IdleONE
[16:12] <heatmsier> I shall go elsewhere
[16:12] <heatmsier> and leave you guys alone
[16:12] <dr_willis> heatmsier:  the bot said where to go... #winehq
[16:12] <IdleOne> heatmsier: you could try asking in #winehq
[16:12] <ActionParsnip> Punisher_: add an option in /etc/fstab to mount the NTFS at boot and you can define the options to give users write access
[16:12] <iNTEl> i think ubuntu need alot of customization and its so hard , need to be always connected to internet
[16:12] <heatmsier> dr_willis and IdleOne, I hope you go on to enjoy a long and propserous homosexual relationship, may be you can lick each other out like the gay couple you are
[16:13] <dr_willis> heatmsier:  so you are a child..
[16:13] <ActionParsnip> gone
[16:13] <iNTEl> but its the only choice , even its distrutions worse than ubuntu
[16:13] <IdleOne> dr_willis: Please don't sink to his level
[16:13] <dr_willis> ;)
[16:13] <alpre> Punisher_: do you use the ntfs on a windows partition too?
[16:14] <Punisher_> ActionParsnip: let me make myself clear.....i'm a begginer in ubuntu...so plz give me instructions so that i can do it....thnx dude
[16:14] <Punisher_> alpre: yes i do
[16:14] <alpre> Punisher_: You can read the ntfs-3g manual, it has a config wizard to map your linux user to your windows user
[16:15] <iNTEl> Actionparsnip : could u answer this please , can i use norton ghost to make image from ubuntu
[16:15] <iNTEl> cuz making all that again is boring
[16:15] <clausen> tu
[16:15] <Punisher_> alpre: where can i find that?
[16:15] <alpre> Punisher_: otherwise you can use fmask and dmask to give all users the same partitions
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> Punisher_: there are plenty of guides online for how to add an NTFS partition to /etc/fstab   I gotta jet now but a bit of searching online will show you how. Its not hard at all. You will need:  sudo blkid    to get the UUID of the NTFS partition and:  gksudo gedit /etc/fstab   to get write access to the file.
[16:15] <alpre> Punisher_: in the manual
[16:15] <iNTEl> or ubuntu is not failing like windows ?? , i mean could it still for years
[16:15] <ActionParsnip> iNTEl: if the software supports Ext4, then yes
[16:15] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  clonezilla and g4l can do sim iler things in linux
[16:15] <Igmu> ActionParsnip: I have reinstalled pulseaudio, will try kill cmd. I'm without sound now from wakeup.
[16:16] <iNTEl> yea its like a cd burner
[16:16] <iNTEl> make an image but u can burn it on a partition not a cd
[16:16] <iNTEl> its really cool if it right
[16:17] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  clonezilla can backup and restore from a server on the lan. no need for  a optical disk
[16:17] <joelio> hmm, still getting USB errors in console even after upgrading to latest kernel
[16:17] <delinquentme> " sudo -s "
[16:18] <delinquentme> does this take the password and just execute subsequent commands in suro mode?
[16:18] <delinquentme> sudo***
[16:18] <Guest31702> hello, trying to connect a sata ssd drive on an old ide motherboard using an adapter. the hard drive is recognized in bios and gparted but afer a random few seconds aprox. 1 minute ubuntu live cd freezes. any idea?
[16:18] <theadmin> delinquentme: Sort of. You should use "sudo -i" instead
[16:19] <iNTEl> Actionparsnip : another Q : there is some official distrubutions like Xubuntu there is a dvd its size 4.7 , is it comes with customization ?
[16:19] <delinquentme> theadmin, why?  One changes the current dir .. one doesnt
[16:20] <theadmin> delinquentme: More of, "sudo -i" updates environment appropriately. "sudo -s" doesn't.
[16:20] <delinquentme> -s also activated some : __rvm_ensure_is_a_function: command not found
[16:20] <xangua> iNTEl: it comes with extra languages packs
[16:20] <iNTEl> just that ?
[16:20] <theadmin> iNTEl: Yes, just that.
[16:20] <iNTEl> XD
[16:20] <iNTEl> ROFl
[16:20] <iNTEl> hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
[16:20] <iNTEl> k
[16:21] <theadmin> iNTEl: Why is it funny? Some people are unable to understand English and other languages on the CD editions.
[16:21] <iNTEl> k but not all this size to add just lang packs
[16:22] <iNTEl> am an egyptian guy i use english easily but i have on my HDD files typed in arabic so i have 2 install arabic
[16:22] <iNTEl> but its not need all this size
[16:22] <Guest31702> hello, trying to connect a sata ssd drive on an old ide motherboard using an adapter. the hard drive is recognized in bios and gparted but afer a random few seconds aprox. 1 minute ubuntu live cd freezes. any idea?
[16:22] <theadmin> iNTEl: But for ALL the languages that are around? Yes, it will be big
[16:22] <iNTEl> so i think its funny >> download the livd CD 700 MB and download ur lang pack
[16:22] <iNTEl> k
[16:22] <iNTEl> so i think its not a good choice np
[16:22] <theadmin> iNTEl: To download your language pack you have to understand the language the CD is in.
[16:22] <compdoc> Guest31702, its obvious it wont work
[16:23] <iNTEl> NVR MIND
[16:23] <iNTEl> ah
[16:23] <iNTEl> ya , that's a point
[16:23] <Guest31702> compdoc , why do you say that?
[16:23] <iNTEl> but not enough  ..............
[16:23] <theadmin> iNTEl: You don't need the DVD, you don't download the DVD, it's simple as that.
[16:23] <compdoc> Guest31702, test it further - try to install windows or some other OS
[16:23] <theadmin> iNTEl: Also, I think the DVD is not 4.7 GB but just around 1.5
[16:24] <ikonia> theadmin: it's 2.2 currently.
[16:24] <iNTEl> ya but the reason of making DVD is really ..............
[16:24] <theadmin> ikonia: Oh
[16:24] <ikonia> theadmin: (well the one on my laptop is)
[16:24] <Guest31702> compdoc , do you think it may be an electrical problem?
[16:24] <iNTEl> theadmin : can u help me about a little funny thing
[16:24] <theadmin> iNTEl: Well, depends on what the little funny thing is
[16:24] <compdoc> Guest31702, i think those apadters are unreliable
[16:24] <theadmin> Yay text aligning
[16:24] <compdoc> *adapters
[16:25] <iNTEl> theadmin : XD , k , can u open ubuntu software and type in the search bar "wine"
[16:25] <theadmin> iNTEl: I don't have the software center installed, what is your end goal?
[16:26] <delinquentme> whats the command to open a file and refresh it? Like what would you use to view server logs while SSHed in?
[16:26] <Guest31702> compdoc , i guess im starting to have that idea too
[16:26] <delinquentme> tail -f something
[16:26] <theadmin> delinquentme: tail -f /var/log/exim/main.log
[16:26] <theadmin> Or whatever
[16:26] <compdoc> Guest31702, you could try a pci controller
[16:27] <iNTEl> theadmin : there is 2 program , 1st : microsoft windows compatibility layer (meta-package)  42 download
[16:27] <Guest31702> compdoc , would i get the same speed as with the ide adapter?
[16:27] <iNTEl> theadmin : the 2nd : wine windows program loader 26 download
[16:28] <iNTEl> which one should i download for an online game ?
[16:28] <theadmin> iNTEl: Not too sure which is which. You should do "sudo apt-get install wine" in the terminal to get the right thing
[16:28] <compdoc> Guest31702, I think you would get a lot better performance, as long as the adapter is supported by ubuntu.
[16:28] <compdoc> Guest31702, but youre better off with a new motherboard
[16:29] <esing> hi
[16:29] <compdoc> Guest31702, SSD drives are better off with more modern equipment
[16:29] <esing> Should I install first Ubuntu or first Windows 7 when aiming for Dualboot?
[16:29] <hfic> !dualboot
[16:29] <iNTEl> theadmin : ty 4 help , srr for annoying u
[16:30] <theadmin> iNTEl: You weren't annoying me at all, glad to help
[16:30] <iNTEl> theadmin : u know who just turned 2 use ubuntu
[16:30] <iNTEl> theadmin : and ty 4 ur kindness XD
[16:30] <jakemp> my machine just randomly logged me out
[16:30] <jakemp> how do I find out why this happened?
[16:30] <pinnen> Hi, I am about to install "Ubuntu 12.10 beta1" and I am using the normal amd64 -install -disk, with an nvidia 8800GT -graphics card, but the installation fails.. when i press .. "Start ubuntu setup" from the install usb I made.. I get this question.. "Undefined video mode number: 0" .. And when it tries to boot X11(the installer) the driver seems to crash.. and I get strange colors and nothing happens. Any tips? :)
[16:31] <ikonia> pinnen: #ubuntu+1 is the correct channel for 12.10 discussion
[16:31] <apollo13> hi, anyone else with crashes for firefox 15 on ubuntu 10.04 (up2date from lucid-security)
[16:31] <pinnen> ikonia: thanks!
[16:31] <deadmund> jakemp: Sounds like X crashed.  You can look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[16:31] <apollo13> 15.0.1+build1-0ubuntu0.10.04.1 -- crashes at startup even after killing ~/.mozilla
[16:32] <deadmund> jakemp: There are other logs too like dmesg (command) and /var/log/syslog
[16:32] <apollo13> backtrace is at: http://dpaste.org/AmyGX/ -- not really telling me much though
[16:32] <Guest31702> compdoc ,  ssd drives consume less than ide. im trying to connect a sata ssd to an ide motherboard. aint the sata ssd receiving more volts than required?
[16:32] <black_13> how do i cause ubuntu to use a custom preseed file?
[16:33] <joelio> This is spamming my logs.. new 12.04 build, new laptop - https://gist.github.com/347b44932e63a09b5b7b
[16:33] <Guest31702> ssd drives consume less than ide. im trying to connect a sata ssd to an ide motherboard. aint the sata ssd receiving more volts than required?
[16:33] <alpre> Guest31702: better use a proper pci sata controller card
[16:33] <delinquentme> best way to UN-install anything which is related to rubygems?
[16:33] <compdoc> Guest31702, ssd use the same voltages as any other drive
[16:33] <joelio> delinquentme: system rubygems?
[16:33] <delinquentme> yeah!
[16:33] <delinquentme> non-rvm
[16:33] <compdoc> they just consume less
[16:33] <jakemp> I just got the notification that X crashed deadmund
[16:33]  * jakemp sighs.
[16:33] <delinquentme> ( i know its bad )
[16:34] <deadmund> jakemp: haha, sometimes it crashes! :(  That's why Ubuntu is writing wayland
[16:34] <Guest31702> compdoc , so that s it . thanks
[16:34] <deadmund> :P
[16:34] <jakemp> deadmund, ubuntu isn't writing wayland
[16:34] <jakemp> the guy writing wayland works for Intel, iirc.
[16:34] <joelio> delinquentme: gem uninstall {gem name}
[16:34] <joelio> or just apt-get purge rubygems
[16:34] <joelio> and remove the /var/lib... whatever dir that has the gems in
[16:34] <jakemp> or has something changed since I least read up on it?
[16:35] <deadmund> jakemp: I stand corrected
[16:35] <jakemp> I know ubuntu has been really good about keeping wayland in their repos
[16:35] <deadmund> jakemp: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wayland_%28display_server_protocol%29  Ubuntu I guess is trying to lead the charge
[16:36] <jakemp> deadmund, interesting fact, if you scroll down to one of those links to phoronix on wikipedia you can see my name =D
[16:36] <jakemp> #38
[16:37] <bjrohan> Hi everyone. My display drivers are all kinds of amiss, therefore I have to use recovery. In recover I have been able to disable auto-login, however it is still enabled in regular boot. From recovery, how do I disable normal boot auto-login?
[16:37] <deadmund> jakemp: You're THE August 2011?????
[16:37] <deadmund> jakemp: I'm in the presence of a celeb
[16:37] <jakemp> woo
[16:37] <deadmund> ha
[16:37] <esing> hfic So basically I should installed Windows 7 before Ubuntu avoiding to overwrite the MBR of Ubuntu correcT?
[16:37]  * jakemp throws, umm, USB flash keys at deadmund.
[16:38] <esing> *install
[16:38]  * deadmund chokes on usb flash drive caught in his throught
[16:38] <deadmund> esing: Windows 7 first.  (yes)
[16:38] <esing> Thanks
[16:39] <deadmund> esing: Windows 7 will over-write the MBR.  Ubuntu will again in a correct way that lets you boot both OS's
[16:39] <alpre> esing: you can always fix mbr in both ways
[16:39] <seednode> You could always fix it manually, though.
[16:39] <bjrohan> How do I disable auto-login for normal boot when logged booted into recovery?
[16:39] <alpre> "fix"
[16:40] <dr_willis> bjrohan:  i think its set in the  lightdm.conf file
[16:40] <esing> How can change boot order and the time of the boot screen when booting?
[16:40] <jakemp> will Ubuntu 12.04 get the open source AMD drivers for the 7000 chipsets?
[16:40] <esing> +I
[16:40] <jakemp> or will that require 12.10?
[16:40] <alpre> esing: you edit /etc/default/grub
[16:40] <deadmund> alpre: not anymore?
[16:40] <bjrohan> dr_willis where is that file found?
[16:41] <dr_willis> bjrohan:  use 'locate filename'
[16:41] <alpre> edit it, deadmund that's the new grub2, isn't it?
[16:41] <bjrohan> ok
[16:41] <deadmund> alpre: IDK. Stupid grub2 vs grub differences.  I can't remember
[16:41] <deadmund> bjrohan: It's probably in /etc/
[16:41] <alpre> deadmund: before it was /boot/menu.lst or something
[16:41] <deadmund> alpre: yeah...
[16:42] <dr_willis> grub1 = menu.lst
[16:42] <dr_willis> grub2 has config files you edit, then update-grub reads them then makes a /boot/grub/grub.cfg   i belive
[16:44] <delinquentme> if I ran this: sudo gem install rubygems-update-1.6.2.gem
[16:44] <delinquentme> can I just switch install to uninstall?
[16:45] <delinquentme> will purging a package in apt-get *ONLY* remove those packages which were installed with apt-get?
[16:46] <dr_willis> apt-get only works with  the package manager  apps.. what specifically do you mean delinquentme
[16:47] <theadmin> delinquentme: It will be able to remove any packages on your system. Long as they are installed with dpkg.
[16:47] <dr_willis> you can use apt-get to remove apps installed with ANY of the apt tools
[16:47] <delinquentme> dr_willis, I downloaded a package and installed it locally ( not using apt-get )
[16:47] <delinquentme>  sudo gem install rubygems-update-1.6.2.gem
[16:47] <dr_willis> installed it HOW exactly
[16:47] <delinquentme> is what I ran .. and now I'd like to uninstall that
[16:47] <delinquentme> I used wget to download the file
[16:48] <dr_willis> gem is a ruby thing/package manager for ruby things
[16:48] <deadmund> delinquentme: gem is not an apt tool so apt-get will not uninstall it.  I'm guessing sudo gem uninstall <thing>
[16:49] <dr_willis> other labguages have similer 'tools' perl has its cpan stuff.  not sure about python. ;)
[16:50] <Pici> dr_willis: pip or setuptools/easy_install or anything that can interface with the Python Package Index.
[16:50] <deadmund> The python modules are all part of your distros packages.  Apparently many developers do not like this but I prefer it.
[16:50] <deadmund> Pici: But I think that is rarely used.  (pip that is)
[16:51] <Pici> deadmund: I use pip all the time if I need something that Ubuntu can't provide, or is too outdated.
[16:51] <deadmund> Pici: I see.
[16:52] <theadmin> Oh that reminds me, how can I get Ubuntu's pip to work with Python 3?
[16:53] <watukka> Hi, I just installed linux first time in my life and got everything else to work just nice but now i just need to know if i need anything else than Wine to run Windows OS progs???
[16:53] <smt> is there any way to update to 12.04 without breaking gnome?
[16:53] <dr_willis> watukka:  depends on the windows app. not all work in wine
[16:53] <delinquentme> ERROR:  While executing gem ... (Gem::InstallError)    cannot uninstall, check `gem list -d rubygems-update-1.6.2.gem`
[16:53] <delinquentme> so I check that command and its empty
[16:53] <theadmin> watukka: Nope. I suggest you install PlayOnLinux though. It's a tool to manage wine stuff in an easy way
[16:53] <dr_willis> smt:  gnome2 is basically dead..
[16:54] <delinquentme> I'm not sure if that tells me anything useful?  Or maybe its saying that its not even installed?
[16:54] <dr_willis> smt:  theres gnome3's fallback/classic modes
[16:54] <watukka> oh ok thx alot
[16:54] <smt> damn
[16:55] <dr_willis> amazing how people forget all of gnome2's failings when its gone.. ;)
[16:55] <Pici> theadmin: pip 1.0 (which has shipped in Ubuntu since Oneiric) supports python 3.  If you're on an older release, I suppose you could use easy_install to install pip and then use that.... or grab the deb from a newer release (although I'm not supposed to tell you to do that)
[16:55] <SolarisBoy> delinquentme: what version of gem are you running?
[16:55] <Igmu> I used killall pulseaudio.  System monitor shows process killed, sleeping. Volume mutes, then full... No actual sound.
[16:55] <SolarisBoy> delinquentme: and what version of ruby
[16:56] <theadmin> Pici: See, there's one problem with pip in Precise, it depends on python-setuptools which doesn't work with python3. It's supposed to use python-distribute...
[16:57] <Pici> theadmin: ooh.
[16:57] <SilfenX> OT: Hmm, since I'm out fresh out of CD-ROM s, is it possible to burn a CD-ROM image to a DVD-R?
[16:57] <Pici> SilfenX: sure
[16:57] <SilfenX> Pici: ty
[16:59] <theadmin> Pici: So even if pip has internal support for python3, it won't work long as the distribute backend is not installed :(
[17:00] <kqr> hello! i've recently installed ubuntu on my laptop, and one of the features that cause me trouble is the "tap and drag" on the touchpad. i don't find anywhere i can disable that, but i would very much like to. does anyone know how to do that?
[17:01] <kqr> (i still like tap to click, but not dragging)
[17:01] <Pici> theadmin: It should pull the right dependency if you install pip from easy_install though... or at least it should.
[17:02] <nightwatch> hi there, I've been running in to much problems after the update to 12.04 specially with my webcam.. I know that's possible to get it working with kernel 3.0.29 however it is not in the available repositories. is there a procedure to downgrade ubuntu 12.04 to use kernel 3.0.29?? can somebody give me some pointers (google didnt help)
[17:02] <furan> how do I get the defconfig for x86_64 that ubuntu compiles with? with all of ubuntu's preferences?
[17:04] <neokya_> Hello
[17:04] <furan> nm found it
[17:08] <tarwich> Does wheezy use xorg.conf? I'm trying to prevent my monitor from going black every ten minutes and it doesn't seem to read /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:09] <IdleOne> tarwich: wheezy is Debian, try #debian
[17:09] <tarwich> Hmm… I'm on ubu. Don't know how to get version
[17:09] <IdleOne> tarwich: lsb_release -a
[17:10] <tarwich> Does precise use xorg.conf? I'm trying to prevent my monitor from going black every ten minutes and it doesn't seem to read /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:10] <brohan> dr_willis, thank you for the help with the auto-login, it was in /etc/lightdm/ :-)
[17:11] <brohan> Can anyone here offer help with KDE? No one is in that channel :-(. My system tray is not loading
[17:12] <AnDsO> Halo guyz is it possible to ping to a class a network such as 10.0.0.1 from class c network by creating routing table in ubuntu how can i do it
[17:12] <jrib> tarwich: if you create it, it should.  But see wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[17:13] <tarwich> jrib: Thanks. On it....
[17:13] <esing> Is Ubuntu as safe as Webconverger considering browsing porn sites?
[17:13] <deadmund> esing: I have no idea what webconverger is.  the topic of porn is off-topic / not really allowed here.  It is the safest way to browse said sites in my opinion.
[17:14] <deadmund> esing: Linux in general is the safest way to browse the web.
[17:15] <jrib> tarwich: also, those settings should be accessible through the display/monitor/power saving gui
[17:16] <tarwich> jrib: Everything in that GUI is turned completely off. I'm running the desktop on tty7 and a terminal on tty3. However, I'm controlling tty3 through ssh, so the system isn't getting any mouse/keypresses, so the monitor keeps going off.
[17:17] <tarwich> jrib: (And I've rebooted after turning the settings off)
[17:17] <watukka> tarwich: qsettings set org.gnome.desktop.screensaver idle-activation-enabled false
[17:17] <jrib> tarwich: tty3 has X?
[17:17] <tarwich> Uh… No. Somewhere I mis-explained. :-)
[17:18] <unless> I am facing some issues at running VirtualBox in Ubuntu 12.04 and I wonder if someone could help me figure what is going on here please.
[17:18] <jrib> tarwich: Check out the various options to setterm (though I don't know how one saves these).  I would see if it does what you want first though, and then worry about saving
[17:18] <tarwich> jrib: tty3 is just a plain text console. But when I google "monitor blanking every 10 minutes" people suggest setterm -powersave off, which gives me an error that google says is related to the tty7 having X on it.
[17:18] <jrib> ha
[17:18] <jrib> tarwich: what error?
[17:18] <unless> The problem log says something like : Cannot create IPC semaphore because the system limit for the maximum number of semaphore sets (SEMMNI), or the system wide maximum number of semaphores (SEMMNS) would be exceeded. The current set of SysV IPC semaphores can be determined from the file /proc/sysvipc/sem" <- Seems to be a rather bad issue
[17:19] <tarwich> setterm: cannot (un)set powersave mode: Invalid argument
[17:20] <tarwich> watukka: qsettings isn't installed for me. I'm looking into what it is.
[17:21] <jrib> tarwich: hmm, I can usually run "setterm -powersave off -blank 0" ok with X on tty7.  But I guess I would also play with xset /in/ X since those are the settings you'll be manipulating with xorg.conf I believe.  This way you can see if it works without having to restart X
[17:21] <unless> This error log is at:  https://gist.github.com/3708186
[17:22] <tarwich> jrib:  Ok… I think I can actually run that command in a terminal inside tty7. Any obvious way to query the result to see if it's taking effect in tty3? ('course I could always wait 10 minutes)
[17:23] <Guest84996> cp will copy hidden files as well?
[17:23] <AnDsO> tarwhich:how can i ping like from 192.168.1.123/24 ubuntu to 10.0.0.1
[17:23] <Guest84996> I want to copy my old /home/username folder which is mounted, to my current /home/username
[17:23] <Guest84996> So I just cp -R old new
[17:23] <jrib> tarwich: well the setterm you ran in tty3, right?
[17:24] <tarwich> jrib: The one that failed, yes. I'm trying it in tty7 now.
[17:24] <jrib> tarwich: xset q   will give you the current status (there are a bunch of options about blanking and powersave in the man page)
[17:24] <auronandace> Guest84996: man cp, i think there is a switch for hidden files/folders
[17:25] <jrib> Guest84996: cp will copy what you tell it to, whether hidden or not
[17:25] <dr_willis> and you need to check the ownership of the files Guest84996
[17:25] <Guest84996> dr_jesus, Yeah I noticed I have a lot of "permission denied" showing up
[17:25] <Guest84996> dr_willis, ***
[17:26] <dr_willis> !movehome
[17:26] <Guest84996> Can I grep man cp? It didn't work for me.. man cp | grep hidden
[17:26] <watukka> tarwich: dont know if this helps but www.linuxquestions.org/questions/slackware-14/cannot-un-set-powersave-mode-582229/
[17:26] <dr_willis> copy the files as root. and then set the right owner. or set the owner first
[17:26] <Guest84996> dr_jesus, Ah okay. :) Sounds better.
[17:26] <dr_willis> Guest84996:   use /patternname  to search in the man pages
[17:27] <Guest84996> Cheers dr_willis
[17:27] <tarwich> watukka: Thanks! That's actually open on my screen currently. It seems to have worked for Jeebizz. :-)
[17:27] <snoop-li0n> wut it iz
[17:28] <digitard> my epson stylus cx7400 ran out of paper mid job. I've added more paper, how do I tell the printer to resume printing? (ubuntu 11.10, usb printer)
[17:28] <snoop-li0n> Is there a way I can use a vpn on my ubuntu windows? I do a lot of on-line drug dealing and I want to make sure that I have a secure connection. Also does ubuntu windows have a calculator? I need to be able to make unit conversions for dime bags.
[17:29] <xr1rr> installed fresh install of Ubuntu 12.04.1 but its really bad at responding.. any ideas
[17:29] <dr_willis> xr1rr:  clarify what you mean
[17:29] <tarwich> jrib: Ok. from tty7 I ran qset -dpms, then sqet -q and it shows dpms off. However, from tty3, qset sais invalid display. I'll wait 10 minutes and see what happens.
[17:29] <xr1rr> i.e. if I min/max a window, takes a few seconds to response
[17:29] <dr_willis> and you did install any 3rd party video drivers you need xr1rr ?
[17:30] <jrib> tarwich: you mean xset?
[17:30] <snoop-li0n> xr1rr: put a magnet on your computer. Make sure its a very strong magnet. That should speed it up
[17:30] <jrib> tarwich: xset will only work inside X, yes
[17:31] <jrib> tarwich: check for plain screen blanking too
[17:31] <jrib> snoop-li0n: that's not welcomed here
[17:31] <snoop-li0n> jrib: are you being racist?
[17:31] <xr1rr> its not normally slow thats the reason for the reinstall in the first place
[17:31] <snoop-li0n> jrib: don't talk down on me becuz im black
[17:32] <dr_willis> xr1rr:  whats your video card?
[17:32] <tarwich> jrib: Yes. I meant xset. And… Blanking was in there (set to off). Then when I disabled DPMS it went away, so I'm pretty sure that killed it. Just waiting now.
[17:32] <xr1rr> nVidia geforce 9600m gs
[17:33] <dr_willis> xr1rr:  you installed the nvidia drivers? or not you are using the noveau drivers. or worse case the vesa drivers
[17:33] <Guest84996> Everytime I reboot, I run a command..  xmodmap -e "keycode 94 = backslash bar" Where would I enter this so that it's always ran without me having to do it?
[17:34] <xr1rr> Yes, I installed the nvidia drivers
[17:34] <Guest84996> When I Googled it, it seems there are like 5 different files that manage this?
[17:34] <theadmin> Guest84996: There is "Startup Apps" in Ubuntu, use that tool to run any graphical apps
[17:34] <Parham> Hi. Does anyone know how I can fix the driver for D-Link Dwa125 with an id of 2001:3c19? I have found guides for other IDs, but not mine.
[17:35] <sathish> Hi, How do I change TERM colors? I want to set it to a specific color set, any directions are appreciated
[17:36] <BluesKaj> Parham, drivers don't need IDs , just the right chip model
[17:36] <LuiX> hi there. I need a good tool (in your experience) to recover data from an NTFS partition that could not be restored by partition tools
[17:36] <kaly> theadmin, Thanks for the advice. I noticed this page  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup  But it looks like it's not installed for my version?
[17:37] <kaly> Ubuntu 12, with KDE is what I'm running.
[17:37] <Parham> BluesKaj: Well, the guides say that their instructions work only if my id matches theirs.
[17:37] <BluesKaj> whose instructions, Parham ?
[17:38] <BluesKaj> Parham, ok , you must mean ssid and essid
[17:38] <Parham> BluesKaj: I don't quite remember. I googled for 'install dwa125 driver on linux' and found a forum post that linked to a blog. In that blog, an id is given, and the guide says, "If your id matches this, continue."
[17:39] <Krambiorix> hi guys, i want to install openoffice headless via apt-get and i do sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-headless   but i get E: Unable to locate package openoffice.org-headless
[17:39] <Krambiorix> what can i do?
[17:40] <kaly> theadmin, Strange. I can't find "Startup Applications Preferences" by typing it, but if I just run "gnome-session-properties" in terminal it loads.
[17:41] <theadmin> kaly: Ah, it's in the control center thing nowadays
[17:41] <itsrachelfish> hi #ubuntu!
[17:41] <itsrachelfish> Oddly enough, I'm connected to the internet but ubuntu refuses to let me change my wireless settings
[17:41] <itsrachelfish> I can't even disconnect-- it wont let me!
[17:41] <kaly> theadmin, Sorry, I'm clearly new to Ubuntu "control center"? TYped that in, can't find that either.
[17:41] <Parham> BluesKaj: Sorry, if you replied to me, I didn't see the message in the channel traffic.
[17:42] <itsrachelfish> Has anyone else experienced the wireless menu locking up in 12.04?
[17:42] <itsrachelfish> Maybe locking up isn't the right word, it's still responsive
[17:42] <itsrachelfish> But I can't change networks or disconnect from my current network
[17:43] <itsrachelfish> And it shows "More networks..." but when I hover over it, it pops up an empty box
[17:43] <theadmin> kaly: Click the power icon in the top right, it's called "Settings" there or something, can't remember (I'm a KDE person)
[17:43] <watukka> kaly: the startup applications are in upper right corner under the gear looking icon :)
[17:44] <tarwich> jrib: fail. :-( Going to give the url that watukka sent a shot.
[17:44] <gitesh> !window-manager
[17:44] <kaly> theadmin / watukka Found it thanks. :) I'm also on KDE, but I found everything I need under System Settings.
[17:44] <kaly> I couldn't get used to Unity.
[17:45] <gitesh>  window-manager for linux?
[17:45] <Krambiorix> anyone ? i want to install openoffice headless via apt-get and i do sudo apt-get install openoffice.org-headless   but i get E: Unable to locate package openoffice.org-headless. What can i do about that?
[17:47] <marshall> im having a problem where my server doesnt seem to be recognizing my authorized keys. I've added id_rsa.pub and i'm still being asked for a password.
[17:48] <OerHeks> !info openoffice.org-headless
[17:48] <auronandace> OerHeks: its libreoffice now
[17:50] <dr_willis> its libreoffice now a days isent it?
[17:50] <deadmund> isent it ?
[17:50] <dr_willis> i always remove it. ;)
[17:50] <deadmund> dr_willis: abiword?
[17:51] <dr_willis> deadmund:  i rarely evn need that ;)
[17:51] <OerHeks> auronandace, i know, openoffice is still available, just cannot find that specific package.
[17:51] <deadmund> dr_willis: latex?
[17:51] <dr_willis> OerHeks:  its not in the default repos
[17:51] <auronandace> OerHeks: not in precise
[17:53] <OerHeks> I am on Kubuntu now, thought the repo's would be the same :(
[17:53] <unless> Could someone help me to verify my disk from a Ubuntu Desktop disk please?
[17:53] <auronandace> OerHeks: they are the same, openoffice is not in precise
[17:53] <auronandace> OerHeks: its libreoffice now
[17:55] <OerHeks> auronandace, i don't want to make a fuzz about it, but it is >> http://picpaste.com/pics/openoffice-hJWakWal.1347472489.png
[17:55] <unless> What is the command to do a disk verification really?
[17:55] <OerHeks> so kubuntu and ubuntu repo's are different.
[17:56] <auronandace> OerHeks: you sure you're on precise?
[17:56] <auronandace> OerHeks: lsb_release -sd
[17:57] <OerHeks> auronandace,  lsb_release -sd
[17:57] <auronandace> OerHeks: yes, run that in a terminal
[17:57] <OerHeks> duhh forgot to copy >> Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS
[17:58] <tsimpson> auronandace: there are openoffice.org transitional packages
[17:58] <tsimpson> !info openoffice.org
[17:58] <theadmin> OerHeks: They're not real -- they're for upgrade purposes only. They point to the LibO packages
[17:59] <theadmin> OerHeks: (translating what tsimpson said to English :D)
[17:59] <auronandace> OerHeks: see what tsimpson and theadmin said
[18:00] <OerHeks> ah thanks, tsimpson + theadmin that clears it
[18:00] <theadmin> OerHeks: Oracle killed off Openoffice.org in favor of LibreOffice so it's a sane choice to move to LibO
[18:02] <bourbon> hi
[18:03] <joeblow> bouron Hello
[18:03] <SilfenX> Hello! Been looking around but havent found anything particularly useful about how to add a shell/desktop to an already existing server installation. Can anyone point me towards some thorough tutorials on th ematter?
[18:04] <tsimpson> SilfenX: which shell/desktop do you want?
[18:05] <jjjjj> eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient[1051])     neone know what that is chkrootkit came up with it
[18:06] <hassan_> hey
[18:06] <unless> Is there  a correct better way to use fsck command? Or is that a way to do a very good disk verification other that this command?
[18:06] <hassan_> my ubuntu doesnt read a cd?
[18:06] <keln> Hello, I have an 8 core AMD FX CPU (6.0GHz) and 16GB DDR3 RAM and a 6 GB Radeon Graphics card, will it be enough to run Ubuntu?
[18:07] <hassan_> itll be great....
[18:07] <joeblow> Keln you need at least a 6.01GHz machine and 9 cores
[18:07] <hassan_> my ubuntu doesnt read a cd why?????
[18:08] <hassan_> joeblow help?
[18:08] <TheLordOfTime> joeblow:  that's not useful, please don't make statements like that.
[18:08] <TheLordOfTime> keln:  you'll be fine, yes.
[18:09] <joeblow> where is your sense of humor
[18:09] <hassan_> hey u lord of time...can u help me out?
[18:09] <jjjjj> eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient[1051])     neone know what that is chkrootkit came up with it
[18:09] <unless> I had a system crash and now after booting my wifi are not identified anymore. What should I do?
[18:09] <hassan_> ?????????????????????????
[18:10] <hassan_> my ubunt isnt reading a cd help?
[18:10] <jjjjj> what is dhclient 1051 newat
[18:10] <jjjjj> neway
[18:11] <jjjjj> can i erase it
[18:12] <Pici> jjjjj: It is used to request and receive dhcp addresses from the network.
[18:12] <jjjjj> ooh
[18:12] <joeblow> jjjjj - I would backup your data and do a reinstall
[18:12] <jjjjj> hmm ok
[18:12] <jjjjj> there was some stuff before it hold on on the line above one sec
[18:12] <unless> Now it says Firmware missing at my Wireless Control Painel Network Wireless tab.
[18:13] <jjjjj> Checking `sniffer'...                                       lo: not promisc and no packet sniffer sockets eth0: PACKET SNIFFER(/sbin/dhclient[1051])
[18:13] <jjjjj> ne use
[18:13] <ubuntu_noob> is there a location for general how to questions?
[18:14] <WeThePeople> ubuntu_noob, justa sk
[18:14] <joeblow> ubuntu_noob - right here
[18:14] <tsimpson> jjjjj: there's nothing to be concerned about with that output
[18:14] <ubuntu_noob> okay cool
[18:14] <jjjjj> oh ok thanks for that
[18:14] <jjjjj> just one more thing
[18:15] <SilfenX> tsimpson: the gnome3 shell/desktop. I just tried the desktop version of the installer but for some reason it deosnt boot after installation finishes
[18:15] <ubuntu_noob> looking to find out why my drive shows 15Gb free in the same partition my Ubuntu 11 install shows.
[18:15] <jjjjj> i got the settings for firestarter from a web mag but the settings were lost for the firestarter policy i think it was outbount policy, i think inbound was all
[18:15] <ubuntu_noob> But I can not access that partition.
[18:15] <unless> How do I ajust this Firmware missing issue from my Wireless ?
[18:15] <jjjjj> what is a good policy for outbound in firestarter
[18:15] <tsimpson> SilfenX: you can just install the "ubuntu-desktop" package to get that
[18:15] <SilfenX> tsimpson: oh, wont that give unity?
[18:16] <WeThePeople> jjjjj, do you have kids?
[18:16] <jjjjj> um no why
[18:16] <Pici> jjjjj: Thats completely up to you.  Most people don't create any outbound rules.
[18:16] <WeThePeople> jjjjj, then why do you want to set outbound policy
[18:17] <WeThePeople> jjjjj, its inbound that peeps set policy on
[18:17] <tsimpson> SilfenX: you will have the option to use "Ubuntu Classic" from the login menu, that's the non-Unity version (so you'll get both)
[18:17] <jjjjj> well i think the mag said something about nothing should want to connect out or outbound should be restricted. i could be wrong could be the reverse
[18:17] <ubuntu_noob> So in gparted I see that I have an etire 15GB free but no way to access it. All I can use on the 80Gb hdd is 54 GB.
[18:17] <jjjjj> i forgotten
[18:18] <jjjjj> what policy do you have
[18:18] <SilfenX> tsimpson: So "Ubuntu Classic" will have the Gnome3 desktop/shell in 12.04?
[18:18] <tsimpson> SilfenX: as far as I'm aware, yes
[18:19] <joeblow> Gnome 3 has to be installed by itself
[18:19] <SilfenX> tsimpson: Also, is it possible to make the login screen not ask you which shell you want each time you start the machine?
[18:19] <tsimpson> SilfenX: it should remember what you selected last time, and default to that
[18:19] <jjjjj> wheres comrade we the people gone
[18:20] <SilfenX> tsimpson: I'd prefer if I could only install gnome3 and not the inity files as well, but maybe thats nitpicking
[18:20] <tsimpson> SilfenX: looking into it, you may need the "gnome-shell"
[18:20] <tsimpson> *package
[18:20] <tsimpson> so try that instead of "ubuntu-desktop"
[18:20] <WeThePeople> jjjjj, firestarter automatically blocks inbound connections
[18:20] <joeblow> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell for Gnome 3
[18:20] <WeThePeople> jjjjj, i set no policy
[18:21] <jjjjj> but why give the option to make it restrictive by default?
[18:21] <WeThePeople> jjjjj, cuz its a firewall and most peeps dont know how to set a policy
[18:21] <SilfenX> joeblow: on 12.04 server, will that give me a bootable gui just from that one install command?
[18:22] <jjjjj> oh ok i will leave it then.
[18:22] <jjjjj> ta for that
[18:22] <joeblow> SilefenX did you start out with server or the desktop install of ubuntu?
[18:22] <SilfenX> joeblow: I have server 12.04 already installed
[18:23] <joeblow> then you should be good.  At the menu you will select if you want gnome or unity
[18:23] <SilfenX> joeblow: menu?
[18:23] <macmartine> I made some changes on my server yesterday and I apparently messed up mysql. 'mysql -V' returns 'Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.1.63, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64)', so does that mean that it's still installed?
[18:23] <MalfermitaKodo> hi
[18:24] <vooze> My sound is often "laggy" like falling out or what you could call it.. both in rhythmbox and Lastfm-client (so its not the mp3 files) any ideas what i could be missing? (it was fine in arch linux)
[18:24] <WeThePeople> hi
[18:24] <macmartine> I no longer have /etc/init.d/mysql
[18:24] <MalfermitaKodo> What do you guys/gals/smallfuzzy creatures from Alpha Centauri use for incremental backups?
[18:25] <joeblow> if you installed server I would do a sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop first.
[18:25] <ain> hello
[18:25] <antti_> hi
[18:26] <auronandace> MalfermitaKodo: i copy what i need manually to an external harddisk
[18:26] <SilfenX> joeblow: whole point was to avoid cluttering the drive with any Unity related padding - if possible. Maybe it isnt possible to avoid that?
[18:26] <WeThePeople> hi
[18:27] <joeblow> personally I would install XFCE - LXDE or gnome shell
[18:27] <MalfermitaKodo> auronandace: sure that can be done, but sounds like quite a bit of a hassle...
[18:27] <antti_> j #kahvi
[18:27] <crizis> MalfermitaKodo, i used to use rdiff-backup on server, and ubuntu has built-in backups right in system prefrences nowadays
[18:27] <joeblow> if you do the sudo apt-get install gnome-shell it should resolve all the dependencies you need for a complete dekstop
[18:27] <Brewski> Hi #ubuntu. Anyone familiar with touch screens?
[18:27] <SilfenX> sideone: I need a more fleshed out shell/desktop to be able to set up VPN and do some tinkering with network settings. I m useless at CLI
[18:28] <auronandace> MalfermitaKodo: depends how organised you are and how much you need to back up i suppose
[18:28] <SilfenX> sideone was meant to be joeblow, sry
[18:28] <Brewski> I'm trying to add a second monitor, which happens to be a touch screen. I got the span desktop working with it, but it's not quite calibrated right
[18:29] <Brewski> the touch screen input tracks correctly but when i release the 'touch' the cursor moves on me
[18:29] <MalfermitaKodo> auronandace: not organized whatsoever, thus searching for a solution which is similar to time machine under that OS from Cupertino
[18:30] <MalfermitaKodo> so that an accidental rm -rf can be undone
[18:30] <WeThePeople> brewski, http://x.debian.net/howto/use-xrandr.html
[18:30] <joeblow> ubuntu is smart enough to install what you need from a server install to LXDE for example sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop
[18:31] <ain> I'm in Sudan and we have the international ban I can not download the entire system updates
[18:31] <ain> What should I do to Download Now full?
[18:31] <ain> However Beginner in the system
[18:31] <nmap> anyone can help me, my sound (internal soundcard) is gone, yesterday it was working just fine and today its gone.  Suggestions ?
[18:32] <MalfermitaKodo> Can you select another mirror if one is blocked, ain?
[18:32] <HellNo> hi
[18:32] <WeThePeople> nmap, check alsamixer
[18:32] <WeThePeople> hi
[18:32] <nmap> alsamixer?
[18:32] <WeThePeople> type it in the terminal
[18:32] <Brewski> WeThePeople, I'm using xrandr, and I've used a transformation matrix to get the touch screen calibrated to only use that screen, but it still acts up
[18:33] <joeblow> http://complete-concrete-concise.com/ubuntu-2/ubuntu-12-04-server/ubuntu-12-04-server-how-to-install-a-gui
[18:33] <nmap> ok
[18:34] <SilfenX> joeblow: tyvm, much obliged
[18:34] <WeThePeople> brewski, idk about touch screen, but there are plenty of apps in the soft center for that
[18:35] <joeblow> no problem
[18:35] <ain> how
[18:35] <ain> ?
[18:36] <WeThePeople> ain, use a proxy maybe?
[18:36] <SilfenX> What are "restriced apps"?
[18:36] <unless> Could someone help me figure a way to fix a corrupted wireless driver please?
[18:36] <WeThePeople> ain, is there a website explaining the ban?
[18:37] <nmap> wethepeople, sorry but im a beginner in linux systems, alsamixer doesnt tell me much
[18:37] <seaskii> SSH will not login I get msg "authentication method password failed"
[18:38] <WeThePeople> unless, type lshw interminal and copy paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[18:38] <WeThePeople> in terminal*
[18:38] <TheLordOfTime> !pastebinit
[18:38] <seaskii> SSH will not login I get msg "authentication method password failed"  Ubuntu 12 new install i removed openssh client and server and reinstalled, checked sshd_config pls HALP !
[18:39] <ain> Can you give me that proxy please?
[18:39] <nmap> it shows me the correct card and all looks fine
[18:40] <tsimpson> seaskii: that means the username/password combination is incorrect
[18:40] <seaskii> same password i used in the terminal for sudo and to log into x
[18:41] <tsimpson> seaskii: what username are you trying to connect as?
[18:41] <SilfenX> so, to be lengthy about this: doing a "sudo apt-get install gnome" from the command prompt in server 12.04 will result in a fully bootable gnome3 desktop?
[18:41] <WeThePeople> nmap, type sudo apt-get update
[18:42] <gurifisu> my ld complains it can't find ld: error: cannot find -lfftw3_omp . However, I have in /usr/local/lib: libfftw3_omp.a  libfftw3_omp.la. I've also set LD_CONFIG_PATH to export /usr/local/lib
[18:42] <nmap> alright
[18:42] <IdleOne> SilfenX: you want gnome-shell
[18:42] <gurifisu> sorry I meant LD LIBRARY PATH
[18:43] <WeThePeople> unless, what is problem
[18:44] <SilfenX> IdleOne: Whats the difference between gnome-shell and gnome?
[18:45] <ain> Thank you
[18:45] <ain>  Did not advise me a lot, but thank
[18:46] <IdleOne> SilfenX: assuming you want the new Gnome3 look and feel. I know that the gnome-shell package will get you that, not 100% sure what the gnome package will give you.
[18:46] <unless> WeThePeople, https://gist.github.com/3708999
[18:46] <nmap> wethepeople, ok done it.  What i have done now is mute pcm in alsamixer but still nothing
[18:47] <WeThePeople> nmap, pcm has to do with cd
[18:47] <ain> good bye
[18:47] <nmap> oh someone said i had to mute it
[18:48] <IdleOne> SilfenX: looking at package description, it seems the gnome package will give you the same thing.
[18:48] <SilfenX> IdleOne: I need a fleshed out desktop environment, not a barebones but if I could help it, I really only need comprehensive network support installed to deal with VPN s and tinkering with network setup in a GUI env
[18:48] <IdleOne> SilfenX: either package will install the full gnome environment
[18:49] <WeThePeople> unless, have i help with theis before?
[18:49] <SilfenX> IdleOne: ok, ty
[18:49] <unless> WeThePeople, no
[18:50] <WeThePeople> unless, you have the wireless card disabled
[18:51] <unless> WeThePeople, yes, I figured the driver at Additional Drivers System Settings
[18:52] <RadarLuv> hello
[18:52] <WeThePeople> unless, what is the problem, specifically? is it not connecting to the internet or..
[18:53] <WeThePeople> any errors
[18:53] <WeThePeople> msg
[18:53] <deadmund> WeThePeople talks to himself... :P
[18:53] <seaskii> i've added user "borg" at the end of sshd-config AllowedUsers borg
[18:53] <nmap> wethepeople, in the log files i find this: snd_pcm_avail_delay() returned strange values: delay 0 is less than avail 16.
[18:53] <nmap> Sep  3 19:37:43 NnMAP pulseaudio[1925]: alsa-util.c: Most likely this is a bug in the ALSA driver 'snd_hda_intel'. Please report this issue to the ALSA developers.
[18:54] <deadmund> !hardware
[18:54] <deadmund> thank you ubottu
[18:55] <RadarLuv> Is there a flash plug-in for Chromium?
[18:55] <WeThePeople> unless, type 'sudo ifconfig wlan0 up'
[18:55] <D7> RadarLuv, its built in
[18:55] <deadmund> This list: http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/desktop/  shows complete systems are linux supported I need to buy a PCI WiFi Card.  Where can I see a list of the best supported WiFi cards?
[18:56] <unless> WeThePeople, When I try to activate the driver I got this message: Sorry, installation of this driver failed. Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log, and this is at : https://gist.github.com/3709071
[18:56] <WeThePeople> radarluv, search the software center for adobe flash
[18:57] <RadarLuv> I see the plugin for Mozilla, will that work for Chrome as well?
[18:57] <netraameht> Hello, does somebody know how to make a bash file which copies a directory to a ftp server, or the *.dat files?
[18:59] <unless> WeThePeople, if I figure this driver name I could try to reinstall it via cable network, what do you think?
[19:00] <WeThePeople> unless, ok, what did you install exatly.. i use broadcom to and have a script for it but you might need to uninstall something
[19:01] <designbybeck> so this Ubuntu 12.10 Remote Login thing: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2012/09/ubuntu-12-10-login-screen-adds-remote-desktop-access
[19:01] <designbybeck> I use Ubuntu on our campus network... I login with my own username and password to my local machine... And if I want to hit the Windows Share... i do it with smb://servername/dir
[19:01] <designbybeck> then it prompts me for username password and domain an dthat works
[19:01] <unless> WeThePeople, after Ubuntu instalation it comes authomatically.
[19:02] <auronandace> designbybeck: 12.10 support in #ubuntu+1 until realease
[19:02] <designbybeck> Will this allow me to use it to authinticate the same waya?
[19:02] <designbybeck> ah... ok just curious auronandace
[19:03] <WeThePeople> unless, try this >>>http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1932922
[19:09] <igmu> I am have audio issues. Upon Plymouth, sound is muted. Adjusting volume creates sound capability. After wake-up from suspend, gnome indicator displays full volume, but no sound. Tried reinstalling pulseaudio, no change. $kill-all pulseaudio, no change. Created lshw, pulseaudio --dump-conf,  pulseaudio --dump-modules on http://pastebin.com/4J0xdGvk
[19:10] <zetheroo> I have a laptop here running Ubuntu 12.04  - suddenly the speakers no longer work (no sound emitted), however sound come out through the headphone jack and also via Bluetooth speakers. I also got the internal speakers to work once after plugging and unplugging the earphones, but after plugging and unplugging the headphones a second time the speakers no longer worked!
[19:11] <WeThePeople> zetheroo, type alsamixer in terminal and check that
[19:11] <Punisher_> i want to mount a NTFS drive which is already mounted (if the meaning of mounting is that i can open its folders and contents)....but there is a bizzarre problem...can somebody guide me through?
[19:11] <WeThePeople> punisher_, justa ask
[19:12] <WeThePeople> yes thats the meaning
[19:12] <LuiX> how do i access windows recovery console from grub?
[19:12] <Punisher_> WeThePeople: i can write on and read from it....but my Vuze can't....
[19:12] <Punisher_> what should i do?
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> LuiX, hit f8 like would as usual at picking windows
[19:12] <wilee-nilee> you*
[19:13] <WeThePeople> punisher_, so you have vuze save to this partition but cant write to it?
[19:15] <Punisher_> WeThePeople: yes....it was saving on it that suddenly the electricity went off....when the system came again vuze gives me an error which reads: Failed to create parent directory....
[19:15] <unless> WeThePeople, I did it via cable, just reintalled the driver. Thank you!
[19:16] <Punisher_> WeThePeople: another thing is that i can manually write to it....creating files and folders and etc....
[19:16] <WeThePeople> unless, is it working
[19:16] <zetheroo> WeThePeople:I don't think this is a volume issue. There is something wrong with the headphone jack being enabled/disabled
[19:16] <zetheroo> as I said above " I also got the internal speakers to work once after plugging and unplugging the earphones, but after plugging and unplugging the headphones a second time the speakers no longer worked!"
[19:16] <WeThePeople> punisher_, redo the operation
[19:17] <Punisher_> WeThePeople: which operation do u mean?
[19:18] <zetheroo> WeThePeople:  When I plug in headphones I have to manually select the second Output entry in the Sound settings dialog to get sound through the headphones
[19:18] <WeThePeople> zetheroo, yes my ubutnu wont play out of speaker if i jave headphones enabled from alsamixer, disable headphones in alsamixer
[19:18] <unless_> WeThePeople, yes, talking to you through it :D
[19:20] <zetheroo> WeThePeople: in alsamixer the Headphone and Speaker settings show no volume bar and the little square has two zeros
[19:20] <w30> If Steven Warren or Maxim Thikonov read this channel, a big thank you  for fixing my purple people in flash on Nividia
[19:21] <WeThePeople> unless, type 'sudo apt-get autoclean' and 'sudo apt-get clean'
[19:22] <WeThePeople> zetheroo, press m to enable disable the selected
[19:22] <Punisher_> WeThePeople: u mentioned i redo the operation...which operation or what operation do u mean?
[19:24] <WeThePeople> punisher_, i assume you where downloading somthin, have you tried to redownload it and save it to the ntfs
[19:24] <zetheroo> WeThePeople: they are already on ... hence the '00' in the little box ... instead of 'MM' when they are off ...
[19:25] <WeThePeople> zetheroo, yeah turn the headphones off
[19:25] <Punisher_> WeThePeople: yes yo're right....so u mean i have to start over downloading?
[19:25] <vartan> hey guys, my wireless wont seem to work. i've installed the additional drivers, went through all things related to my broadcom driver in synaptic, but, when i open wicd, it says no wireless networks found. i checked the kernel, and its using the ssb, so i know its not the kernel. i have no clue what else it could be.
[19:25] <zetheroo> WeThePeople: sound is still not coming from the speakers
[19:25] <WeThePeople> punisher_, yes try that
[19:26] <unless_> WeThePeople, donne
[19:26] <Punisher_> WeThePeople: I did what you said....i stopped downloading and started it again and again.....but the same error came AGAIN....
[19:27] <unless_> Is there a way to eliminate stuff I don't use from my Ubuntu to occupy less disk?
[19:28] <unless_> Like OpenOffice and games for example.
[19:28] <gordonjcp> unless_: uninstall stuff?
[19:28] <vartan> unless: go through synaptic, uninstall things you dont need
[19:28] <unless_> gordonjcp, no specific command to reduce a distro to minimum
[19:28] <vartan> also, i noticed that i cannot turn off my wireless with the switch it has. maybe its somehow related
[19:29] <gordonjcp> unless_: no, although you could start by installing a minimum distro
[19:29] <WeThePeople> unless_, those where some commands to do that
[19:29] <unless_> Mmm, ok.
[19:29] <unless_> gordonjcp, is the a light version of Ubuntu?
[19:29] <WeThePeople> zetheroo. type lshw and copy paste to paste.ubuntu.com
[19:30] <MonkeyDust> unless_  lubuntu and xubuntu
[19:30] <gordonjcp> ^^^ those
[19:30] <WeThePeople> punisher_, create the parent directory for the files you want to save
[19:30] <unless_> MonkeyDust, well, there are some privileges I wouldn't like to loose.
[19:31] <vartan> any ideas guys?
[19:32] <MonkeyDust> unless_  meaning?
[19:32] <unless_> MonkeyDust, Unity for example.
[19:33] <Punisher_> WeThePeople: how can i do that? if you by saying parent directory meant that i manually create the directory for saving the data....i can't...because it had already downloaded some amout of information...
[19:33] <unless_> I did create a .bash_profile and added alias apache='sudo qetc/init.d/apache2' but it didn't result nothing. What I made wrong?
[19:34] <WeThePeople> punisher_, a directory is a folder
[19:34] <Punisher_> WeThePeople: and by the way...when i changed the saving directory to another drive....it started downloading
[19:34] <Punisher_> WeThePeople: i know what a directory is...but i don't know that a parent directory is...
[19:35] <MonkeyDust> unless_  maybe it's an idea to create a kind of 'Unity lite' DE
[19:35] <vartan> hey guys just in case anyone missed it.  hey guys, my wireless wont seem to work. i've installed the additional drivers, went through all things related to my broadcom driver in synaptic, but, when i open wicd, it says no wireless networks found. i checked the kernel, and its using the ssb, so i know its not the kernel. i have no clue what else it could be.
[19:35] <unless_> MonkeyDust, better I guy a better computer ;P
[19:35] <unless_> s/guy/buy
[19:36] <unless_> does anybody know how to create an alias for bash ?
[19:36] <kaly> I've read man.. don't understand.. why ln -s isn't working as expecting.
[19:36] <fengshaun__> hi all, is it possible to have the manpages (from the man command) in plaintext so I can process them?
[19:36] <kaly> ln -s -t /omd/sites/o/etc/nagios/conf.d/ /omd/sites/o/etc/check_mk/nagios
[19:36] <kaly> Created a symbolic link, in the original destination?
[19:36] <WeThePeople> punisher_, http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/P/parent_directory.html
[19:37] <kaly> I'd expect it to go inside of /omd/sites/o/etc/check_mk/
[19:37] <MonkeyDust> fengshaun__  there's this http://linuxmanpages.com/
[19:37] <Pici> fengshaun__: if you redirect the output from man somewhere, it removes the formatting.  i.e. man bash > foo
[19:37] <zetheroo1> WeThePeople:   http://paste.ubuntu.com/1201156/
[19:38] <fengshaun__> MonkeyDust, not the best solution, but thanks!
[19:38] <fengshaun__> Pici, that sounds promising, let me try it
[19:38] <fengshaun__> I used | instead of >
[19:38] <dr_willis> fengshaun__:  i belive theres other ways to get the man pages in other formats as well. i recall using troff, or nroff years ago to make nice printable versions
[19:39] <fengshaun__> dr_willis, thanks, I will check that out
[19:39] <fengshaun__> redirection works!
[19:39] <dr_willis> if i remeber right the man pages are formated with nroff, using the 'man' macro set
[19:39] <tobiasBora> Bonjour !
[19:39] <tobiasBora> oupss sorry
[19:39] <wds> hi, I have a pw recovery question
[19:40] <Pici> kaly: but you specified /omd/sites/o/etc/nagios/conf.d/ as the directory where you'd like to create the link.
[19:40] <wds> I used the windows installer which loads ubuntu via window's boot manger
[19:40] <wds> I'd like to enter single user mode
[19:40] <wds> but am unsure how to do so without grub
[19:41] <kaly> Pici, I thought I specify the target first? So did I get my arguments mixed up? I'm confuszzled?
[19:41] <wds> does anyone know how to do so from the window's boot loader?
[19:41] <zetheroo1> WeThePeople: btw, the speakers were working fine 2 days ago ...
[19:41] <wds> (I unintentionally took myself off of wheel)
[19:41] <Pici> kaly: Are you sure that you want the -t argument at all?
[19:42] <kaly> Ah, you are right. I don't.
[19:42] <kaly> I totally misunderstood that option
[19:42] <igmu> Pici: Is this what you mean for fengshaun_ ? ln -s -t /omd/sites/o/etc/nagios/conf.d /omd/sites/o/etc/check_mk/nagios/
[19:43] <tobiasBora> Hello !
[19:43] <econdudeawesome> Hello! How would I unzip a set of files to folders for each individual file? Trying to modify the following: for i in *.tar.gz; do tar xvzf $i -C path/to/output/directory; done
[19:43] <igmu> oops, for kaly
[19:44] <kaly> Removing -t and it works :P
[19:44] <tobiasBora> I use KDE and I'd like to know how to do to open a bluetooth device like a usb key (to see the folders, the files etc...). What paquage do I need ?
[19:44] <econdudeawesome> rather: for i in *.tar.gz; do unzip $i -C path/to/output/directory; done
[19:44] <WeThePeople> zetheroo1, what changes did you make, any updates?
[19:45] <zetheroo1> WeThePeople: it's not mine ... :P
[19:45] <dr_willis> tobiasBora:   you mean access a bluetooth enabled phone to see the files on it?
[19:45] <zetheroo1> WeThePeople: I don't think any major changes were made ... I don't know about updates though
[19:45] <tobiasBora> dr_willis: yes it is
[19:46] <WeThePeople> zetheroo1, type this in termianl >>>  speaker-test -c2 -Ddefault -l5 -twav
[19:46] <WeThePeople> zetheroo1, what does it do??
[19:46] <dr_willis> tobiasBora:  should be able to 'pair' the devices then see the phone in the file manager or send stuff from the phone.
[19:47] <dr_willis> tobiasBora:  if you have a lot to transfer i suggest using a usb cable or wireless  - bluetooth is amazing slow
[19:47] <zetheroo1> WeThePeople: is there supposed to be sound? - because there is none ...
[19:47] <tobiasBora> dr_willis: I've already 'pair' my phone, and when I open my file manager, I only see "send a file", and not browse...
[19:48] <Osmodivs> Hello. I use Ubuntu 12.04 32 bits, I can't open ZSNES, I get this error but I do not know what does it mean. Can someone help me?
[19:48] <tobiasBora> dr_willis: yes I know, but I've no usb cable, and that's for test bluetooth too.
[19:48] <Osmodivs> http://pastebin.com/8ZZ5YVt3
[19:48] <optikx> what is linux good for servers?
[19:49] <dr_willis> tobiasBora:   theres different bluetooth services thay the phone m ay need to turn on. or have
[19:49] <WeThePeople> zetheroo1, http://forums.opensuse.org/english/get-technical-help-here/laptop/412281-82801h-ich8-family-hd-audio-controller-rev-04-no-sound.html
[19:49] <dr_willis> optikx:  depends on your server needs
[19:49] <miraj> optikx : on the ubuntu channel, the correct answer is always "ubuntu"
[19:50] <WeThePeople> yes there is suppose to be sound
[19:50] <gordonjcp> Osmodivs: it's a segmentation fault; it means that the program has tried to read some memory it's not allowed to
[19:50] <gordonjcp> Osmodivs: looks like it's failing to connect to a mouse, somehow
[19:50] <gordonjcp> Osmodivs: can you disable mouse support, or something?
[19:50] <Punisher_> WeThePeople: thank you very much..........
[19:51] <miraj> did super nes boxes support a mouse?
[19:51] <zetheroo1> WeThePeople: I am going to boot from a LiveCD just to be sure that it's not a hardware issue
[19:51] <Osmodivs> gordonjcp, The thing is, I can't evev open the program to mess with the settings
[19:51] <WeThePeople> good idea
[19:51] <gordonjcp> Osmodivs: any command-line switches?
[19:51] <Osmodivs> gordonjcp, It's gotta be the PS3 game pad
[19:52] <gordonjcp> Osmodivs: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zsnes/+bug/346155
[19:52] <WeThePeople> punisher_, get it to work
[19:52] <optikx> ps3 gamepad really.
[19:52] <optikx> ? wow
[19:52] <gordonjcp> Osmodivs: ^^^ I googled for "zsnes segfault on startup@
[19:53] <dr_willis> not tried zsnes in ages. it used to be a 32bit only app.
[19:53] <dr_willis> i recall snes9x also working well
[19:54] <zosky> hi yall. on our ubuntu-server /root is a usb stick and /home is a 14 drive softRaid. rebooting changes /root to sda sdc sde ... i successfully created a uDev rule (for another stick) but it then ahows @ /dev/sde1 & /dev/usbStick ... what am i missing ? help plz
[19:55] <dr_willis> zosky:  normally one uses the uuid to define where / is. so if its on sda,b,c,xyz  it dosnet matter
[19:55] <dr_willis> zosky:  you mean '/'   correct?  /root/ is roots home on /
[19:56] <zosky> dr_willis: that is correct(in fStab) but i need to exclude root from sd* for smartMonTools to look at only the HDDs (otherwise it failes because /root does not have SMART(
[19:56] <zosky> sorry, i do mean /
[19:56] <dr_willis> zosky:  ive ran totally from usb flash with no issues befor
[19:57] <MonkeyDust> interesting idea: / on a pendrive
[19:57] <dr_willis> but not sure about smartmontools
[19:57] <dr_willis> MonkeyDust:  saw a bsd nas thing do somthing similer also )
[19:58] <dr_willis> ive never seen a usb jump around from one boot to a next like that. just whatever usb i booted became the sda device
[19:58] <solidoodlesuppor> Hey Guys!
[19:58] <zosky> dr_willis: / on USB runs great. i want to monitor SMART status (of the HDDs). can i use UUID in smartmond ?
[19:59] <dr_willis> i know nothing about smartmond. if its failing because the usb has no smart info... sounds like a bug in smartmond to me
[20:00] <solidoodlesuppor> Got a quick question
[20:00] <solidoodlesuppor> and I'm sorry if it comes up a lot
[20:00] <RageRiot> hi, having a problem getting ubuntu on a laptop. currently has win xp installed on it with a spare partition ready for ubuntu to format/partition. when the live disk starts, choosing run or install ubuntu results in a restart (text comes up and stall before restart last msgs PnP bios...). I have used a CD and a USB Stick and version 12.04. laptop is 2GB ram (video using 256mb) and CPU is 1.6GHz duel core.
[20:00] <solidoodlesuppor> How do you add items to the Launcher in Ubuntu 12?
[20:01] <dr_willis> solidoodlesuppor:  for what?  i drag/drop from the dash  or just pin a running app
[20:01] <Glimcio> Hello
[20:01] <dr_willis> each app has its own .desktop file that defines it. the launcher can see/use the .desktop launcher files
[20:01] <loader56> hi :)
[20:02] <solidoodlesuppor> I'm just tyring to toss a basic Python app in there
[20:02] <loader56> bonsoir
[20:02] <deke111> Hi - I'm thinking of installing ubuntu on a Windows 7 machine using wubi instead of re-partitioning the disk. Any disadvantages in this such as performance issues? Thanks.
[20:02] <loader56> ^^
[20:02] <solidoodlesuppor> Also: I want my python scripts to run on double click
[20:02] <dr_willis> solidoodlesuppor:  make a .desktop file for it   is one way
[20:02] <solidoodlesuppor> How do I do that?
[20:02] <zosky> dr_willis: smartmond has 2 options, explicitly call out sda sdb or device scan (/dev/sd* /dev/hd*) ... to use eaither i need the USB stick to be excluded from the group, like /dev/root
[20:03] <dr_willis> its a file... you make.. look at the gedit.desktop file for an example
[20:04] <dr_willis> solidoodlesuppor:  askubuntu.com has some guides on making your own launcher also
[20:04] <blakes> So I want to set up a default set of menus for the Gnome-Desktop and deploy them to all users on the system.  (Precise,gnome-fallback,ltsp)
[20:05] <solidoodlesuppor> dr_willis: do you have a link for that guide?
[20:05] <solidoodlesuppor> ^^ I think that's what i need
[20:06] <dr_willis> askubuntu.com has a search feature
[20:06] <dr_willis> they have several
[20:06] <dr_willis> cp gedit.desktop   testapp.desktop   and edit it as needed ;)
[20:07] <blakes> dr_willis... are you talking from the /etc/xdc or is that located elsewhere?
[20:07] <dr_willis>  /etc/xdg perhaps?
[20:08] <dr_willis> .desktop files can be in several places
[20:08] <dr_willis>    locate gedit.desktop
[20:08] <blakes> Do i need to <Merge> the newly created "testapp.desktop"?
[20:08] <dr_willis> merge?  not sure what you mean
[20:09] <dr_willis> apps launchers are defined by their .desktop files they get scanned and added to the menus from the info in the files
[20:10] <dr_willis> theres other places where .desktop files are used also.. like for the different desktop sessions
[20:12] <blakes> Yeah... I have been down this path you are leading me and it does not work as simple as that.... plus there is no allowance for nested menus... like myapps-->programming-->python
[20:12] <blakes> I'll look some more.. thanx
[20:13] <dr_willis> blakes:  i dont even know what you are doing..
[20:15] <RageRiot> I think I may have found a potential colprit to my problem trying to get ubuntu to run, the text that fills the screen before it restarts shows the following "PCI 0000:00:09.0: adress space collision: [mem 0x00007800-0x0000787f] conflicts with reserved [mem 0x00000000-0x0000ffff]"
[20:16] <RageRiot> I'll just reiterate for any one who missed it
[20:16] <RageRiot> hi, having a problem getting ubuntu on a laptop. currently has win xp installed on it with a spare partition ready for ubuntu to format/partition. when the live disk starts, choosing run or install ubuntu results in a restart (text comes up and stall before restart last msgs PnP bios...). I have used a CD and a USB Stick and version 12.04. laptop is 2GB ram (video using 256mb) and CPU is 1.6GHz duel core.
[20:16] <Anon1959> !help
[20:16] <Anon1959> lol
[20:17] <Rienzilha> hey there
[20:17] <solidoodlesuppor> dr_willis: I don't see any tutorials
[20:17] <solidoodlesuppor> this is just a SO style site
[20:18] <dr_willis> so?
[20:18] <Rienzilha> I have an ubuntu 11.10 machine, that doesn't boot and to which I do not have console access. I can access it when it boots from a live cd over ssh. is there a way to make ubuntu log as soon as possible so I can see what's going on?
[20:19] <dr_willis> im on my phone so cant easially search stuff.. plus its time for me to head out.  be back in about 2 hrs.
[20:21] <kristenbb> using empathy chat, is it possible not to display disconnection/joining messages in here?
[20:22] <kqr> quick question: how do i take a screenshot of a single window?
[20:23] <kristenbb> is it possible to make unity reduce a window when left clicked on the side panel, if it is displayed ?
[20:25] <kristenbb> is it possible to leave thunderbird running without having it in the side panel, just as rhythmbox does?
[20:29] <kristenbb> hello?
[20:29] <Berenice> hello
[20:30] <Berenice> somebody can help me with ubuntu studio?
[20:30]  * RageRiot say HELLO ! :D
[20:30] <kristenbb> using empathy chat, is it possible not to display disconnection/joining messages in here?
[20:30] <keo-w> so i rebooted my ubuntu server today to discover it didn't come back up. the message it reports is 'kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs unknown-block(0,0)
[20:31] <BluesKaj> Berenice, probly best to join #ubuntu-studio
[20:32] <Berenice> ok, thank you
[20:32] <kristenbb> can someone help me please?
[20:32] <netsavy006> Hi.
[20:33] <Berenice> one moment.. how can I join ubuntu studio?
[20:33] <netsavy006> I'm having trouble adding a repo.
[20:36] <tukata> lhi
[20:37] <sarsaeol> in 10.04 is there a way to SHOW the passwords stored for wireless acces spoints?
[20:37] <kristenbb> can someone hear me???
[20:37] <sapharoth> all i'm seeing is joining n quiting is anyone talking
[20:38] <sapharoth> ?
[20:38] <sarsaeol> im talking
[20:38] <kristenbb> hello world?
[20:38] <sarsaeol> hi kristenbb
[20:38] <kristenbb> oh
[20:39] <kristenbb> thought this software wasn't working
[20:39] <kristenbb> it's the first time i'm using it
[20:39] <sarsaeol> kristenbb: http://askubuntu.com/questions/30249/in-empathy-irc-how-do-i-turn-off-the-joined-and-disconnected-messages
[20:39] <kristenbb> thank you !
[20:39] <sapharoth> are you talking about xchat?
[20:39] <kristenbb> me?
[20:40] <sarsaeol> she said empathy
[20:40] <BluesKaj> telepathy
[20:40] <kristenbb> I don't know, I think it's called empathy, it's just the default software that comes with ubuntu, and is accessible at the top right corner
[20:40] <kristenbb> is it possible to leave thunderbird running without having it in the side panel, just as rhythmbox does?
[20:40] <Danslamerde> oin
[20:43] <kristenbb> sarsaeol, the link you mentioned offers to switch to xchat. Is it as integrated into the OS as empathy though?
[20:44] <sapharoth> kristenbb: ya i'm sure there must be an option somewhere. i've not used one though. or try Ctrl+w instead of Ctrl+q
[20:44] <BluesKaj> sarsaeol, odd, if you a version , telepathy comes up
[20:44] <BluesKaj> do
[20:45] <llaskin> is there a way to write a tar command which will include the directory tree but not tar up certain file types?
[20:45] <billc> how do i watch netflix on google chrome
[20:46] <llaskin> silverlight doesn't support chrome AFAIK
[20:46] <sapharoth> what do you mean by 'certain file types'
[20:47] <llaskin> I want to tar up all files in a directory except for files of type *.mp4 and *.png
[20:47] <BluesKaj> billc, you can't watch netflix on Linux
[20:47] <billc> it says i'm missin something
[20:48] <tsimpson> llaskin: use the --exclude option, see http://manpages.ubuntu.com/tar
[20:49] <billc> crome 20 or higher
[20:49] <tsimpson> llaskin: rather http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/precise/en/man1/tar.1.html that what it redirects you to
[20:49] <billc> chrome
[20:49] <WDKevin> in my home network, i have a ubuntu server running on a bare metal box. is it possible to setup a VPN tunnel from that server to a remote server and then tunnel internal network traffic on a specific port through the VPN?
[20:49] <BluesKaj> billc, there was arumour over a yr ago that google browser would accomodate netfix with a silverlight-like plufin , but it b=nevermaterialized
[20:50] <sapharoth> you can do one thing move the file you dont need to some other location by mv *.file_type1, *.filetype /someplace
[20:50] <WDKevin> so that, in essence, i can proxy any traffic through port, for arguments sake, 9000, and that traffic is tunneled through the remote VPN, but all other traffic is straight to the WAN
[20:50] <billc> so i can't watch it
[20:50] <sapharoth> and then tar the rest.
[20:50] <BluesKaj> oops  scuse my phat phingers
[20:51] <BluesKaj> billc, you can on windows , but not linux , and netflix uses it's own browser
[20:52] <billc> ty BluesKaj
[20:53] <dr_willis> bought a movie that had a 'legal' digital download... but it requires itunes... basically out of luck aint i?
[20:54] <dr_willis> came with blueray, dvd, and digital download.
[20:54] <RageRiot> no doubt theres proably a way round it
[20:55] <dr_willis> i just ripped the dvd to video ;)
[20:55] <dr_willis> but its still annoying
[20:55] <RageRiot> lol
[20:55] <cihhan> Hi all! I was wondering if there is any way to measure the resource usage using C directly from a library in Ubuntu? I can read /proc, but I would prefer if a library can provide this information.
[20:56] <dr_willis> wife wanted to watch it on her android phone.. nope.. cant do that either.
[20:57] <fengshaun__> how can I force quit one of tmux's windows?
[20:58] <fengshaun__> I had ssh running and it timed out, now the window is stuck
[20:58] <dr_willis> hmm.    try   a ctrl-c in it?
[20:58] <Mrokii> Hello. Can anybody recommend an app to edit (cut out parts) in an mp4-video?
[20:58] <fengshaun__> I have, no luck
[20:58] <dr_willis> !info shotwell
[20:58] <dr_willis> doh wrong app.. what is that video editor
[20:59] <fengshaun__> starts with p
[20:59] <fengshaun__> damn
[20:59] <fengshaun__> let me check
[20:59] <dr_willis> !info openshot
[20:59] <Mrokii> dr_willis: Thanks, will take a look.
[20:59] <dr_willis> thats the one ive been playing with lately
[20:59] <dr_willis> its a little  basic
[21:00] <fengshaun__> oh, pitivi
[21:00] <sapharoth> for any image related query i would suggest gimp.
[21:00] <fengshaun__> I haven't used it, though
[21:00] <dr_willis> that and devede  let me make dvds for the grandkids with their fave cartoons
[21:00] <Mrokii> As long as it can simply cut out parts in an mp4 videofile I'm fine with it.
[21:00] <fengshaun__> kdenlive also works
[21:00] <fengshaun__> or should, at least
[21:00] <dr_willis> gotten where i use mp4 all the time ;)
[21:01] <check12> I'm trying to compile/run a program on an ubuntu box with no root access. It depends on libssl, which the box doesn't have. Is there anything I can do?
[21:01] <dr_willis> compile libssl as the user put it in your home.. perhaps
[21:02] <Mrokii> fengshaun__: I'll try openshot first, but thanks. Will keep it in mind.
[21:03] <dr_willis> i think theres 2 other video tools in the repos also
[21:03] <check12> dr_willis: if I compile it somewhere other than default, what changes in the new compilation process (ie, how do I point it to the location of the libssl install?)
[21:03] <dr_willis> !info kino
[21:04] <dyrvere> I'm really liking VLMC btw. It's crashy but the layout is rather nice.
[21:04] <jessefromvancouv> cihhan, if you're looking to record/graph resource information, consider using sar and ksar.
[21:04] <dr_willis> check12:  i think you have to do some stuff with ldpath and so on. not done this in years
[21:04] <dr_willis> vlmc is a very new one i recall.
[21:04] <wireles> selam
[21:04] <dr_willis> !info vlmc
[21:04] <dr_willis> ;(
[21:05] <dyrvere> dr_willis: Yup, once it's stable I can really see it gaining the same popularity of VLC but for video editing.
[21:05] <wireles> ubuntu için yardıma ihtiyacım var yardım edecek gönüllü varmı :)
[21:05] <dr_willis> i think thers one more.  vlmc, openshot, kino, pitivi
[21:06] <cihhan> jessefromvancouv: I am not really planning to graph them, I just want to be able to measure.
[21:06] <Mrokii> dr_willis: Heh, thanks. :)
[21:06] <TeamRocket1233c> Is GNOME 3 + Openbox with Tint2 panel possible?
[21:06] <cihhan> jessefromvancouv: In fact, there are a couple of APIs for that such as SAR and Sigar
[21:06] <cihhan> jessefromvancouv: Have you ever used them?
[21:06] <TeamRocket1233c> And what about Xfce + Fluxbox with the same panel?
[21:06] <drupin> m not able to run gotour after installing go with procedure on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Go  and go get code.google.com/p/go-tour/gotour this is go env https://gist.github.com/3498708
[21:06] <IdleOne> !turkey  | wireles
[21:07] <TeamRocket1233c> Been googling a lot about how to swap out Mutter with Openbox in GNOME 3 and making it work.
[21:08] <jessefromvancouv> cihhan, I've used them to look at bottlenecks in the system but not directly through C code. I would log the epoch start and finish times of my programs and analyze the resource utilization using ksar.. Not quite what you're after I don't think
[21:08] <webguy024> hello I am having a problem with permissions (mainly I just suck at understanding them). Running precise, nginx/php5-fpm. Running a sript in a directory that is owned by root. php error about permissions. I suspect php is running as something not able to ammend that directory.. how can I fix this?
[21:09] <cihhan> jessefromvancouv: what I want to do is to write a C code that will connect to a couple of other machines and measure their resource usage and output them later
[21:09] <cihhan> jessefromvancouv: so, it's a bit different :)
[21:09] <jessefromvancouv> cihhan, good luck :)
[21:10] <billc> how do i know if i have ubuntu desktop or server
[21:10] <cihhan> jessefromvancouv: thanx, i will definintely need it :)
[21:11] <OerHeks> billc, if you see a gui, you don't have server. unless you installed a desktop on your server.
[21:13] <tsimpson> cihhan: use the getloadavg() C function
[21:13] <Guest25713> test
[21:14] <cihhan> tsimpson: hmm, thanks. but what about other possible resources such as memory, network, detailed CPU, etc.
[21:14] <cihhan> tsimpson: do you know any functions for them?
[21:16] <fengshaun__> does anyone know anything about the "learn" command?
[21:16] <tsimpson> cihhan: that'll be scattered all over the kernel API, I'm not aware of a library for collecting that information
[21:16] <fengshaun__> I can find its manpage or any info on it
[21:17] <billc> OerHeks: TY  must b desktop all kinds of icons
[21:17] <OerHeks> billc correct
[21:18] <billc> can i make this a server
[21:18] <cihhan> tsimpson: i see your point. I think you are right, I couldn't find a single library which will be useful for this purpose.
[21:18] <OerHeks> billc, you are free to install a service ( as on a server) like php/mysql/apache2
[21:19] <OerHeks> billc, the server iso is optimised for those services.
[21:19] <OerHeks> billc no gui = more power
[21:20] <unheeding> any way to get my battery applet to report better times?  it's been saying i'm 2 minutes away from fully charged for a good 20 minutes now
[21:20] <billc> Oerheks: i have a desktop, netbook tablet and smartphone can i use the server to communicate with the others
[21:20] <webguy024> hello I am having a problem with permissions (mainly I just suck at understanding them). Running precise, nginx/php5-fpm. Running a sript in a directory that is owned by root. php error about permissions. I suspect php is running as something not able to ammend that directory.. how can I fix this?
[21:21] <OerHeks> billc yes.
[21:22] <wireles> amd ati hd 5770 video card's driver friends using the play of the game, no effect of the CCC does not have any solution to this problem?
[21:23] <billc> what a wunderful cuntry, am not versed in unix can i use the desktop to handle the server
[21:24] <rds_> hello guys is there any LESS css editor available for ubuntu ?
[21:26] <zykotick9> webguy024: option 1) change permission to allow everyone to write to the folder.  option 2) change to folder to www-data owner (probably)
[21:35] <iNTEl> dr_willis : i wanna change my default GNOME to Xfce
[21:35] <stasz1> hey, who can help me ?
[21:35] <iNTEl> dr_willis : can u help me ?
[21:36] <zykotick9> !ask | stasz1 ask and see
[21:36] <niee> hi boys :)) anyone to help me pls? after typed this command "touch /fsckcheck" and restart my pc not visible another HDD
[21:37] <stasz1> http://i.imgur.com/AvLeb.jpg How i can change this theme ?
[21:37] <zykotick9> niee: did you use "sudo touch /fsckcheck"?
[21:37] <niee> zykotick9: yes
[21:38] <zykotick9> niee: what does "restart my pc not visible another HDD" mean?
[21:38] <bobweaver> rds Geany has a plugin to get a live browser the  you can have css on right hand side and browser with firebug or whatever on left
[21:38] <iNTEl> can anyone help me , i wanna change my GNOME ( Default ) to Xfce
[21:39] <KyraYui> is there like a general channel that i can ask questions in about irc chat
[21:39] <stasz1> http://i.imgur.com/AvLeb.jpg How i can change this theme ?
[21:40] <trijit_> any idea how i can use vpnc in ubuntu?
[21:40] <trijit_> alias tj
[21:40] <zykotick9> ls
[21:41] <niee> zykotick9: view pls -> http://pastebin.com/yML7aYGG
[21:41] <trijit_> ny idea how i can use vpnc in ubuntu?
[21:41] <zykotick9> niee: pastebin.com no thanks
[21:42] <daemongpl> !info xfce | iNTEl
[21:42] <daemongpl> xfce
[21:42] <niee> zykotick9: private?
[21:42] <daemongpl> !xfce | iNTEl
[21:42] <zykotick9> niee: no thanks.  best of luck.
[21:42] <daemongpl> lol there it goes
[21:43] <KyraYui> is there like a general channel that i can ask questions in about irc chat
[21:43] <iNTEl> ubottu : isn't u a bot ?
[21:43] <iNTEl> ubottu : i see
[21:43] <zykotick9> !info xfce4 | daemongpl fyi you need the 4 ;)
[21:43] <iNTEl> ubotti : so i can't change my GNOME to be Xfce ?
[21:43] <tarwich> KyraYui: Have you asked alis?
[21:43] <KyraYui> asked who?
[21:44] <zykotick9> !alis | KyraYui
[21:44] <rds_> Hai guys is there any CSS LESS editor is available for linux ?
[21:44] <bobweaver> !purexfce | iNTEl
[21:44] <KyraYui> ty
[21:44] <bobweaver> rds_,  Geany has a plugin to get a live browser that  you can have css on right hand side and browser with firebug or whatever on left
[21:45] <tarwich> np
[21:45] <Guest76217> hi
[21:45] <rds_> bobweaver,  I want to use compile css LESS !
[21:45] <bobweaver> OH
[21:45] <Guest76217> any idea how to setup vpnc in ubuntu?
[21:46] <daemongpl> zykotick9, new to ubottu and ubuntu ;)
[21:46] <bobweaver> rds_, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7245826/less-css-compiler-for-linux
[21:46] <bobweaver> rds_,  I never used it myself though
[21:47] <daemongpl> Its nice to watch the questions and learn. Also to be corrected to learn :)
[21:47] <rds_> bobweaver, k
[21:48] <bobweaver> rds_,  there is also
[21:48] <bobweaver> !info lessc | rds_
[21:48] <bobweaver> Oo
[21:48] <bobweaver> well there use too be lol
[21:49] <sam66> hi
[21:49] <PoolShark_> I need some help getting a windows machine connected to an Ubuntu server running Samba
[21:49] <PoolShark_> The windows network browser can see the server, but attempting to connect to it results in an "Access is denied." messasge
[21:49] <bobweaver> !info node-less | rds_
[21:49] <sam66> i have a query regarding battery performance
[21:49] <dr_willis> PoolShark_:  you made some guest shares? or made some other shares?
[21:50] <sam66> i am running 12.04 on a hp laptop
[21:50] <rds_> bobweaver, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LESS_%28stylesheet_language%29
[21:50] <PoolShark_> dr_willis: yes, there are shares, some of them public and broswseable = yes
[21:50] <bjrohan> I have tired the gimp channel for help, but no one is there, anyone here have experience with Gimp and text tool crashes?
[21:50] <bobweaver> rds_,  yeah thanks
[21:50] <dr_willis> PoolShark_:  did you give the linux user you are connecting as a samba password with 'sudo smbpasswd -a username' ?
[21:50] <gordonjcp> bjrohan: start it from a terminal, see if you can pick out a big obvious error message when it crashes
[21:51] <zykotick9> sam66: in future try to put your entire question/issue on one line, with details (see "/msg ubottu ask" and/or "/msg ubottu enter" for details)
[21:51] <bjrohan> Oh yes I can, it is a Pango - Cairo error
[21:51] <PoolShark_> dr_willis: yes, I've done all that. The win7 machines have no problem connecting to the shares.. been set up this way for a long while. It's this new VM I have on my ESXi box that is having trouble... (It's WfW)
[21:51] <bjrohan> dr_willis, I did another upgrade, my low-res issues were solved. I have no idea how
[21:52] <dr_willis> bjrohan:  the drivers started working. ;)
[21:52] <zykotick9> sam66: we still haven't see your question BTW
[21:52] <sam66> i recently installed a new battery, on first day gnome-power-statistics showed battery capacity as 99%, now after 2 weeks it is showing a capacity of 90%. is this behavior normal or is the battery broken or is ubuntu causing some problem?
[21:53] <sam66> n sorry for fragmented question, trying irc first time
[21:53] <bjrohan> gordonjcp: Here is my pastebin from term  http://paste.ubuntu.com/1201426/
[21:54] <bjrohan> gordonjcp This error happens no matter what font I choose
[21:54] <alpre> sam66: probably normal, btw, lithium batteries last longest if not charged to 100% or discharged to 0%, keep it in the "middle", if you can :)
[21:54] <PoolShark_> dr_willis: any ideas? It's kinda hokey to have to make an iso image of antyhing I need to transfer to it heh
[21:54] <sam66> thanks alpre
[21:55] <alpre> sam66: it shouldn't go much lower soon I'd say
[21:55] <zykotick9> sam66: also, don't leave you battery charging.  heat is it's enemy, and charging heats it up.
[21:55] <dr_willis> PoolShark_:  i just use winscp to get stuff actross to window machines - i rarely use samba
[21:55] <gordonjcp> bjrohan: try googling that error message just before the segfault
[21:55] <sam66> ok
[21:55] <sam66> thanks guys
[21:55] <dr_willis> PoolShark_:  i dont use complex vm setups any more either. so no other ideas other then to check the firewall
[21:55] <bjrohan> The script-fu?
[21:56] <gordonjcp> bjrohan: actually, it may be happening further back, there are lots of errors there
[21:56] <PoolShark_> dr_willis: I'll see if I can find an implementation of scp that will work on Win32s heh, but I won't hold my breath :)
[21:57] <gordonjcp> bjrohan: have you installed any unusual plugins?
[21:57] <PoolShark_> this setup isn't that complex.. it's just a win 3.11 VM on the same network as everythign else in my house
[21:57] <alpre> PoolShark_: do you have to have access by multiple pcs to the share at once?
[21:57] <PoolShark_> alpre: yes, everythign in the house can access the shares just fine
[21:57] <PoolShark_> except this VM heh
[21:57] <bjrohan> jordanjcp, plugins for GIMP? not that I know of. I logged into a guest account and get the same error
[21:58] <PoolShark_> and I'm sure it's just the ancientness of WIn 3.11
[21:58] <PoolShark_> but i thought I'd ask anyway
[21:58] <alpre> ah, windows 3.11, never mind
[21:58] <PoolShark_> my life is pretty boring :)
[21:58] <gordonjcp> PoolShark_: Win 3.11 doesn't come with TCP/IP support, so all bets are off
[21:58] <gordonjcp> incidentally, that was the last version of Windows I used
[21:58] <gordonjcp> I still have the Windows install disks
[21:59] <justdave> so I have two Ubuntu 12.04 boxes...  on one of them, I get an orange starburst icon in the top menu bar when there's updates available.  In the other, I get the count of the updates available show up as a badge on the Software Update icon in the Unity dock.  Where's the preference that controls which of those it does?  Doesn't seem to be in the software update prefs...
[22:00] <xangua> justdave: sounds like you are not using unity on one of those
[22:00] <justdave> isn't that what makes the dock on the left?
[22:01] <xangua> or maybe installed a 3rd party indicator stuff
[22:02] <dr_willis> I dont have eitehr icon here. ;P
[22:02] <justdave> There's a preferences link in the orange starburst icon when it shows up, but that just goes into the Software Sources dialog
[22:03] <mecormin1080> got a ?
[22:04] <mecormin1080> anyone here
[22:04] <savr> hi
[22:04] <mecormin1080> know anything about apache2
[22:04] <LordG33k> Kinda
[22:05] <savr> I need an app where I can input pages from a document and scanned in pages and organise them then save them as a pdf
[22:05] <savr> anyone got any recommendations?
[22:05] <mecormin1080> none of my graphics are coming up on the web
[22:05] <mecormin1080> or styles its just links and text
[22:05] <gordonjcp> mecormin1080: "view source", check your paths
[22:06] <BobJonkman> Hi all:  Is there an "apt-remove-repository" like there is an "apt-add-repository"?
[22:06] <gordonjcp> mecormin1080: post a link?
[22:06] <mecormin1080> mecormin.servebeer.com
[22:07] <gordonjcp> mecormin1080: check your permissions in your webroot
[22:07] <gordonjcp> http://mecormin.servebeer.com/images/ <- gives 403 error
[22:07] <mecormin1080> how im new to apache
[22:07] <gordonjcp> mecormin1080: also, #ubuntu-offtopic because it's not really an Ubuntu support question
[22:07] <PoolShark_> gordonjcp: I have TCPIP for WFW installed
[22:08] <gordonjcp> PoolShark_: masochist, take your sick deviant behaviour out of here
[22:08] <OerHeks> BobJonkman, yes, ppa-purge
[22:08] <PoolShark_> gordonjcp: lol :p
[22:08] <xangua> !ppa-purge | BobJonkman
[22:08] <mecormin1080> k
[22:08] <gordonjcp> PoolShark_: now, I must get back to porting Fig-Forth to a 1980s synthesizer...
[22:08] <PoolShark_> gordonjcp: I don't suppose I should tell you about my Tandy 1000 VM running Deskmate
[22:09] <gordonjcp> PoolShark_: #ubuntu-offtopic, or possibly #classiccmp ;-)
[22:09] <PoolShark_> gordonjcp: okay okay I'll shut up now
[22:10] <PoolShark_> now where did I leave those PCBoard disks?
[22:10] <gordonjcp> PoolShark_: I'll leave you with this thought: http://gordonjcp.github.com/miragetools/
[22:10] <BobJonkman> Thanx xanga, OerHeks
[22:11] <PoolShark_> gordonjcp: that's pretty kickass
[22:11] <FrOgfOOt> bugreport:
[22:11] <gordonjcp> PoolShark_: it's fun poking the sound chip directly
[22:11] <FrOgfOOt> ubuntu 12.04
[22:12] <TML> Is there some central location that explains why a package that existed in version x.y was dropped in x.(y+6)?
[22:12] <gordonjcp> PoolShark_: Forth is a fun language
[22:12] <BobJonkman> Perhaps the ppa-purge and python-software-properties  could be combined, with a symlink for ppa-purge to apt-remove-repository ...
[22:12] <jrib> TML: debian bug tracker and launchpad
[22:12] <PoolShark_> gordonjcp: I poke chips all the time (I'm an EE)
[22:12] <gordonjcp> PoolShark_: I don't get to do it nearly as much as I'd like to, but I spend a lot of time repairing stuff
[22:13] <TML> jrib: And if there's nothing in either of those, and it doesn't exist, what does that tell me?
[22:13] <jrib> TML: what package are you talking about?
[22:13] <TML> libpam-dotfile
[22:14] <PoolShark_> gordonjcp: It can get tiresome especially when you're debugging stuff... so why my whole 311 project is about is establishing a link between two 19.2k v.32 modems using the 6kHz audio channel in a 2-meter FM Ham Radio instead of the copper phone lines, to successfully dial into a BBS
[22:14] <FrOgfOOt> after end of play QuakeLive at 640x480 leterbox system dont rollback to normal resolution 1366x768
[22:14] <TML> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam-dotfile/+bugs - 0 bugs; http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=libpam-dotfile - 0 bugs
[22:14] <gordonjcp> PoolShark_: #ubuntu-offtopic, this sounds like fun
[22:15] <albech> so confused with the way resolv conf is configured in 12.04.. it totally messes up resolution through vpn connections
[22:15] <billc> lol EE here northwestern class of 68
[22:15] <TML> jrib: It existed in natty (http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/libpam-dotfile), but not since then
 bugreport:
 ubuntu 12.04
 after end of play QuakeLive at 640x480 leterbox system dont rollback to normal resolution 1366x768
 after end of play QuakeLive at 640x480 leterbox system dont rollback to normal resolution 1366x768 widescreen
[22:16] <dr_willis> FrOgfOOt:  use the xrandr tools to set the res back perhaps.
[22:16] <dr_willis> !info gxrandr
[22:17] <dr_willis> XRandR
[22:18] <FrOgfOOt> handwork is function
[22:19] <FrOgfOOt> xrandr
[22:19] <jrib> TML: it seems to be in debian though, right?
[22:19] <TML> jrib: Definitely
[22:20] <TML> I'm using it on my debian boxes
[22:20] <iNTEl> dr_willis , or anyone can help : my graphics card in not definited
[22:20] <iNTEl> and tried additional drivers
[22:20] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  and what is your video card?
[22:20] <iNTEl> but it doesn't give me anything
[22:20] <jrib> TML: that's pretty weird.  It could have happened that the package didn't build when ubuntu synced with debian, but if it's missing in ubuntu for a few releases I doubt that's the explanation.  Try #ubuntu-motu maybe
[22:20] <iNTEl> its intel g33/g31 graphics card
[22:21] <iNTEl> dr_willis : its intel g33/g31 graphics card
[22:22] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  most intel drivers are built in. its possible the chipset is to new, or some other problems, theres the xswat ppa that may have newer drivers, or you could test it out in 12.10
[22:22] <iNTEl> my board is intel g31
[22:22] <iNTEl> its old
[22:23] <drmtech> hello
[22:23] <iNTEl> dr_willis : if i update my ubuntu version would it discover anything ?
[22:23] <drmtech> dos anyone know how to remove versioning from a file in rapidsvn without deleting it?
[22:24] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  try a 12.10 live cd.
[22:24] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  or check the forums or askubuntu.com about that exact chipset.
[22:25] <dr_willis> or all of the above
[22:25] <drmtech> i need a versioned file to become unversioned
[22:25] <iNTEl> k
[22:25] <iNTEl> ty dr_willis , another little thing
[22:25] <munsking> hello, i just installed 12.04, updated and all that good stuff, but after installing an nvidia driver my second monitor is blank and the cursor is an X(like when i use xming), is there a known fix for that?
[22:25] <iNTEl> am now download Xfce , on ubuntu
[22:26] <chronofusion> small screen tearing problem on all videos ( ripped and youtube) help? please?
[22:27] <dr_willis> chronofusion:  whats your video card?
[22:27] <iNTEl> dr_willis : its really strange ? i found my card definited alone
[22:27] <TML> jrib: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pam-dotfile/+publishinghistory shows why - the package has been orphaned, but it still exists in debports for whatever reason.
[22:27] <dr_willis> 'definited alone' ? means what
[22:27] <iNTEl> dr_willis : is install Xfce interface on ubuntu (GNOME) will make any proplems ?
[22:27] <jrib> TML: you should become the maintainer :)
[22:27] <TML> jrib: Thanks for the pointer to #ubuntu-motu
[22:27] <chronofusion> gtx 580 1.5gig Galaxy Accelero Xtreme plus hsf edtion.  no overclocking going on either.  tried both nvidia proprietary drivers in " additional drivers" program
[22:27] <TML> jrib: ha - you ever tried to become the maintainer for a Debian package?
[22:27] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  normally one installs the xubuntu-desktop package
[22:28] <iNTEl> k
[22:28] <chronofusion> also tried in vlc  to uncheck " resize interface to video size" under preferences
[22:28] <dr_willis> chronofusion:  you tried the vsync setting in ccsm/compiz?
[22:28] <jrib> TML: long time ago, I did try very hard though ;)
[22:28] <iNTEl> dr_willis : which one is faster , gnome or ubuntu ?
[22:28] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  ubuntu is Unity on top of gnome3
[22:28] <TML> jrib: I have tried in the past - it was more work getting approval to be the maintainer than it would have taken to have written the package from source in the first place :)
[22:28] <chronofusion> yes..and it didn't matter..also completely uninstalled everything that said compiz in synaptic package manager..and restarted pc
[22:28] <iNTEl> dr_willis , k ty
[22:28] <chronofusion> technically it's Ubuntu 12.04 x64 Studio that i'm using
[22:28] <dr_willis> Uninstalling is 'windows mindset'
[22:29] <TML> probably points to a problem in the Debian project structure, but WTF do I know? :)
[22:29] <iNTEl> dr_willis : how can i use wine
[22:29] <chronofusion> also made sure that it's running at 60hz  ( terminal nvidia-settings)
[22:29] <iNTEl> dr_willis : just open the .exe normaly ?
[22:29] <Or1on> I'm trying to use indicator-cpufreq to change CPU frequency but it only works as root. Is there a group that have permission for indicator-cpufreq use? Whats the best way to set it up on ubuntu 12.04
[22:29] <hosoka> After using the alternate installation and all was working well and after reboot it tells met target filesystem doesn't have requested /sbin/init. Try passing init= bootarg. What to do ?
[22:30] <hosoka> my line starts with (initramfs)
[22:30] <grizcreative> what dlna server package have you had best luck with?
[22:30] <chronofusion> the problem doesn't happen in my win 7 pro x64 boot up ( im' dual booting that with Ubuntu 12.04 x64 studio
[22:30] <iNTEl> dr_willis : r u heard about conquer online 2.0
[22:30] <dr_willis> CCSM tool general tab - Opengl - 'sync to vblank' helped my videos
[22:30] <gordonjcp> !best | grizcreative
[22:30] <chronofusion> regardless of what media player i use.   powerdvd 9, vlc 2.0.3.  etc
[22:30] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  wine foo.exe
[22:31] <gordonjcp> grizcreative: that said, *for me* minidlna causes the least amount of obscenity
[22:31] <iNTEl> ?
[22:31] <iNTEl> dr_willis : what is that ?
[22:31] <neises> How do I get audio out of my HDMI?
[22:31] <chronofusion> this was a problem for my older setup also back when i tried Ubuntu 10.04  32bit and 64 bit as well as Linux Mint 12 32 bit and 64 bit
[22:31] <iNTEl> dr_willis , should i type in dash or terminal ?
[22:32] <kevin> neises: if you are using nvidia, you can only do it with the proprietary drivers. google can help with that
[22:32] <chronofusion> So i dont' know if it's just..opengl  vs direct x  or what..i'm stumped
[22:32] <neises> I tried with the nvidia drivers, but it just set my desktop environment in fallback mode.
[22:33] <grizcreative> gordonjcp: thank you
[22:33] <neises> How do I find out which drivers I am using?
[22:33] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  learn to use the terminal
[22:33] <TML> hosoka: Most likely, the wrong UUID got written to /etc/fstab during install. Get a rescue CD, boot to it, and run "fdisk -l". That should give you a list of partitions. Mount those until you find the partition that has /etc/fstab in it, then you can update that file to change the UUID=xxxx to /dev/sda1 (or whatever partition you found /etc/fstab in)
[22:33] <iNTEl> k
[22:33] <TML> neises: lsmod
[22:33] <iNTEl> dr_willis , am trying they told me that is useless
[22:33] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  what is? and who? and trying what?
[22:33] <iNTEl> dr_willis : specially in the last versions
[22:34] <neises> It says nvidia and intel are both being used.
[22:34] <neises> I'm using nvidia on my TV and intel on my laptop.
[22:34] <wilee-nilee> Or1on, If you install using this ppa you will not need root and have a icon.  https://launchpad.net/~artfwo/+archive/ppa
[22:34] <iNTEl> neises saying intel appear like talking to me
[22:34] <iNTEl> dr_willis : i didn't get it
[22:34] <Or1on> wilee-nilee, thank you!
[22:34] <keepbro> HI guys - I was wondering if someone could help me with a small problem? Im a new user to linux having used windows all my life and some bits are a bit confusing
[22:34] <iNTEl> there is a book called , simply ubuntu
[22:35] <iNTEl> dr_willis : that's what drived me to ubuntu
[22:35] <savr> I need an app where I can input pages from a document and scanned in pages and organise them then save them as a pdf
[22:35] <savr> anyone got any recommendations?
[22:35] <chronofusion> so any Ideas ..anyone?    screen tearing problem?
[22:35] <drmtech> does anyone know how to remove versioning from a file in rapidsvn without deleting it?
[22:35] <albech> do i really have to push all domains from the vpn server to the openvpn client for ubuntus new dnsmasq configuration to handle forward lookups correctly?
 that is getting way tech for me. The installation was coming from an alternate cd and finished the installation very well. Till the reboot it got me this message.
[22:35] <iNTEl> dr_willis : result of wine: cannot find L"C:\\windows\\system32\\foo.exe
[22:36] <Adie> :/
[22:36] <chronofusion> If i could just conquer that problem...then the last step is testing wine with sc2 and a couple of other games to see if the framerate is still limited to around 30.. if it's improved to almost 60..then I can leave windows behind for good
[22:36] <Adie> hi
[22:36] <WeThePeople> keepbro, whats up
[22:36] <neises> If I'm using nvidia drivers, why am I not able to get sound from my hdmi?
[22:36] <albech> with hundreds of domains accessed through the vpn thats hardly viable
[22:36] <Adie> I accidently sudo chmod -R adie:adie /
[22:36] <Adie> :(
[22:36] <TML> hosoka: Hm - well, that's what you need to do. Is there a particular part of the response that you didn't understand?
[22:36] <i7c> hi, i have bumblebee installed but actually i'm only using my intel graphix on ubuntu, never my nvidia... since my hdmi port doesnt work (always says disconnected) is there an easier way to use intel graphix and make the hdmi port work?
[22:36] <chronofusion> makes me wonder,  Neises, if you haven't selected that option in your sound preferences
[22:36] <TML> Adie: LOL
[22:37] <chronofusion> it gives me wtwo sound options in mine distro
[22:37] <neises> I looked in the sound preferences, but when I selected hdmi, the sound went away.
[22:37] <TML> Adie: I laugh because I did it once myself - 20 years ago, on a SunOS box.
[22:37] <Adie> :D
[22:37] <keepbro> Problem is is that I had to wire my laptop directly when I installed ubuntu on my laptop and now every time I try and find my wifi hub it picks every one up in a 50 mtr radius but mine. I think Linux thinks that its a wired network and not wifi so its not looking for it as such but im not good enough to say "look this way"
[22:37] <Adie> I was told to try to take ownership of my home folder to try to fix my logging in problem
[22:38] <Adie> I did it wromg, lol
[22:38] <keepbro> other prob is that Im currently wired in as we speak so it still wont look for it as a wifi hub
[22:38] <TML> Adie: AFAIK, the only solution to that problem is "recover from most recent backup"
[22:38] <chronofusion> So can anyone help me with screen tearing problem?
[22:38] <WeThePeople> keepbro, what distro did you download
[22:38] <WeThePeople> 12.04
[22:38] <Adie> TML: not even a big deal right now
[22:39] <keepbro> ubuntu 11.10
[22:39] <Adie> ubuntu is like a really hard game to me. I keep trying over and over, and each time I get further
[22:39] <Adie> but I keep dying and have to restart the level
[22:39] <_DanN_> :)
[22:39] <Adie> I haven't lasted 3 days yet -.-
[22:39] <albech> Adie, thats the spirit :D
[22:39] <chronofusion> I feel ya Adie.  got handbrake to work as flawlessly as in my win 7
[22:39] <neises> chronofusion: I looked in the sound preferences, but when I selected hdmi, the sound went away.
[22:40] <Adie> I think MOST of my issues relate to my gpu >:U
[22:40] <Or1on> wilee-nilee, that ppa does not seem to have packages for precise. should I just try to manually install the 12.10 version?
[22:40] <Adie> I keep trying to make my gpu work right, and I keep breaking the whole OS
[22:40] <TML> Adie: I have a solution to that one for you
[22:40] <TML> Stop installing X
[22:40] <chronofusion> did you restart your pc after that..then check the sound preferences again..and tried to play a video or music...then of course checked the volume in your built in monitor's speakers or whatever that hdmi cable or adapter is plugged into?
[22:40] <Adie> :(
[22:40] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  and that makes sence.. since foo.exe was an EXAMPLE of a windows app.
[22:40] <Adie> I like X
[22:40] <WeThePeople> .keepbro, use the hud and look for network manager
[22:41] <TML> Ah. Well, probably not your favorite suggestion, then :)
[22:41] <WeThePeople> keepbro, ^^^
[22:41] <iNTEl> dr_willis : ?? so ?
[22:41] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  so find some windows .exe file to run, and use wine the/path/to/the/whateveritscalled.exe
[22:41] <TML> Adie: I've been using *nix without X for almost 25 years - it's great
[22:41] <Adie> the stock open source drivers don't seem to like unity3d, and the propriatory drivers don't seem to like 3d games
[22:41] <albech> does anyone have a good working openvpn client implementation where they use a DNS through the VPN for internal lookups across multiple domains?
[22:41] <keepbro> not finding it on the network manager on the hud
[22:41] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  if you downloaded a setup.exe you would use 'wine setup.exe'  get the idea?
[22:41] <iNTEl> dr_willis : so i type in terminal wine/xx/xxx/xxx.exe ?
 did you meant that I reboot the pc with the alternate cd ?
[22:42] <keepbro> everyone elses but not my own
[22:42] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  if this is totally confuseing to you, then you may want to spend an hr or two reading some bash/shell tutorials.
[22:42] <TML> hosoka: You boot from the CD, it should give you an option called something like "Rescue"
[22:42] <iNTEl> oh 2 h ?
[22:42] <iNTEl> its ........
[22:43] <TML> keepbro: you just can't see your AP?
ok
[22:43] <iNTEl> all i wanna know
[22:43] <keepbro> AP?
[22:43] <iNTEl> dr_willis : that typing wine and what after
[22:43] <TML> Wireless Access Point
[22:43] <keepbro> Ahhh yes - just mine is not showing - all my neighbours wifi's are visible though
[22:43] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  its rather fundamental.. 'command /path/to/comthing/to/use'
[22:44] <Adie> is there anything I can do to make ubuntus filesearching faster? I am running from an ssd and it's still painfully slow
[22:44] <TML> keepbro: What kind of authentication is your AP set to use?
[22:44] <dr_willis> Adie:  searching how?
[22:44] <wilee-nilee> Or1on, Strange it skips from oneric to quantal, do you have the universe repo open in /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:44] <Adie> dr_willis: hitting the search button from nautilus
initialy it reinstalls the system on rescuemode again
[22:44] <Adie> searching systemwide
[22:44] <dr_willis> Adie:  i tend to use the locate command.
[22:44] <keepbro> umm... <tentatively> it asks me for a WEP key each time...
[22:44] <TML> WEP? WPA2? 802.1x?
[22:45] <TML> keepbro: "it" what? Ubuntu? Or the AP?
[22:45] <keepbro> the ap
[22:45] <keepbro> ubuntu cant see the AP
[22:45] <keepbro> I think
[22:45] <TML> keepbro: My thought is that your ubuntu might not be setup to handle the kind of auth that the AP is expecting.
[22:45] <wilee-nilee> Or1on, I think this is a deb that will work. http://pkgs.org/ubuntu-12.04/ubuntu-universe-i386/indicator-cpufreq_0.1.4-0ubuntu2_all.deb/download/
[22:46] <keepbro> I use virgin media as do some of my neighbours and I can see their APs
[22:46] <Or1on> wilee-nilee, yes I have universe uncommented on source.list. OK I will give that I try. I think its the same one I have tho
[22:46] <TML> For example, if all your neighbors were using the far-less-secure WEP and you were using WPA, and your ubuntu didn't have whatever drivers/software you need for WPA2, it wouldn't show your AP but would show others'
[22:46] <iNTEl> dr_willis : can't i just launch the file from its place
[22:46] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  if its marked 'executable' you can.. but wine foo.exe will show you error messages...
[22:46] <hosoka>  and then starts with /dev/sda1 highlighted as first
[22:47] <iNTEl> dr_willis : executable
[22:47] <iNTEl> dr_willis : executable !
[22:47] <keepbro> ok - so can  I reset or something or bitchslap my hub into liking ubuntu?
[22:47] <wilee-nilee> Or1on, How did you install the one you have.
[22:47] <Or1on> wilee-nilee, from software center
[22:47] <dr_willis> yes.. the executable bit set on  some windowsbinary.exe lets wine 'run' it..   which is one way i NEVER use to launch .exe files
[22:48] <TML> hosoka: http://opensource-sidh.blogspot.com/2011/06/recover-grub-live-ubuntu-cd.html might help you
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[22:48] <wilee-nilee> Or1on, Hmm, I have been using it for awhile never needing root it autostrats with the desktop.
[22:48] <wilee-nilee> autostarts*
[22:49] <Or1on> wilee-nilee, hmm... maybe my user is supposed to be in a group that is not?
[22:49] <TML> humberto: http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-IvLWcT-T0oo/Td0WzG95Y1I/AAAAAAAAAIU/9Qd7fp-uwiU/s1600/Rescue+Grub1.png
[22:49] <TML> humberto: Sorry, mis-target
[22:49] <keepbro> because other than this everything is working fine on my ubuntu and its nice to be learning how to use the terminal. Its just that I wish I could work in bed not at my desk
[22:50] <WeThePeople> keepbro, my guess is somthin isnt setup correctly i wopuld go through everything again, double check it
[22:50] <wilee-nilee> Or1on, If you have admin I would think you are alright, not sure on permissions though.
[22:50] <iNTEl> dr_willis : so how u deal with ur game , .exe files ?
[22:50] <iNTEl> dr_willis : tell me please !
[22:50] <antimatroid> is there an easy way to get the temperature to display next to the time again?
[22:50] <antimatroid> i really liked that
[22:50] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  i run them with  'wine /path/to/the/game.exe' like ive said several times.....
[22:51] <iNTEl> wine /path
[22:51] <Or1on> wilee-nilee, I have been upgrading since 2009. maybe a setting didn't updated. yes I have admin
[22:51] <iNTEl> or wine \path ?
[22:51] <WeThePeople> antimatroid, right click on the panel and choose weather app
[22:51] <WhiteRussian> +OK BUEW7/LXU2j0A915916Ilvb0/HVnH/p1d4417YeEw/Mk6FP.w5D/v0Ugeqi1kCuED.Nj5iz0vVJ9R1Qcab.0
[22:51] <keepbro> is there any resource page I can look at thats the definitive guide to sorting out network probs with Ubuntu?
[22:51] <WhiteRussian> +OK TaVDP.7Nxz018aUtN1k2qFc1h8d9U/aUhhK/hIbVE/b6.tv1TPnA0/tAxbH/mpCVf.wdLdh.Yxp1d.6Oz/J09Egjc0Z1Muo.
[22:51] <WhiteRussian> +OK FA4.X/y3Wfm0FQoVy0NxskO0
[22:51] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  linux dosent use \ for paths....
[22:51] <WeThePeople> keepbro, irc has a channel #networking
[22:51] <Or1on> wilee-nilee, I'm also using low-latency kernel. I'm not sure if that makes a difference tho
[22:52] <keepbro> thats not a dating channel is it? I ve been burnt like that before
[22:52] <WeThePeople> keepbro, lol no
[22:52] <keepbro> I google cracksearch once - never again
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> Or1on, I have no idea really, paths and permissions if I can describe loosely are not really an area I would have any info of without googling them.
[22:53] <keepbro> ok I'll give that a shot - thanks for the help WeThePeople and TML - hope you guys have a nice day or night wherever you are. Ciao
[22:53] <iNTEl> dr_willis : is there linux system easier XD
[22:54] <iNTEl> dr_willis : i feel that this customization will not end
[22:54] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  i  think you need to apply more effort.
[22:54] <iNTEl> ya
[22:54] <dr_willis> No idea what you mean by 'customization'
[22:54] <iNTEl> dr_willis : and my time doesn't make me able 2
[22:54] <chronofusion> um ok..weird..i got kicked?
[22:55] <kevin> [ 6:54 pm] - * chronofusion has quit (Quit: Leaving)
[22:55] <dr_willis> Its taken the last half hour for you to understand 'wine /path/to/foo.exe'   it seems.... and im still not sure you understand the idea.
[22:55] <iNTEl> dr_willis : have u tried playonlinux before its called (POL) 2
[22:55] <chronofusion> ??
[22:55] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  its just a gui front end to wine.
[22:55] <XMENDES> hi everyone
[22:55] <XMENDES> anybody cant help  me?
[22:55] <dr_willis> XMENDES:  ask a question and see.
[22:55] <Or1on> wilee-nilee, someone in the forums said that it worked after a reboot. I will give that a try. thanks for the help!
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> sure
[22:56] <chronofusion> I sent Neises a link.) so i think)..then i lost connection?
[22:56] <iNTEl> dr_willis : k so lets make it easier
[22:56] <XMENDES> i have installed the 12.04 ubuntu ;; and my nvidia card dont works. nvidia mx 4000.
[22:56] <iNTEl> dr_willis : i have a game in the patch D:/games/co/autopatch.exe
[22:56] <XMENDES> i try install out of lightdm
[22:56] <XMENDES> but the driver was incorret
[22:56] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  D: means your windows drive? since linux dosent use d: type drive names...
[22:56] <chronofusion> so the screen tearing problem...any ideas that i haven't tried yet?
[22:56] <iNTEl> dr_willis : the right command is wine D:/games/co/autopatch.exe
[22:57] <iNTEl> aha
[22:57] <iNTEl> dr_willis : XD
[22:57] <iNTEl> dr_willis : should i be installed windows
[22:57] <iNTEl> dr_willis : or that comes with wine ?
[22:57] <dr_willis> i never once used  a windows drive letter as an example.. if you can 'cd' to the location, you can then run 'wine whatever.exe'
[22:57] <XMENDES> anyone?
[22:57] <WeThePeople> xmendes, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=820199
[22:58] <XMENDES> tks man
[22:58] <iNTEl> dr_willis : so should i type the drive name
[22:58] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  wine replaces windows..  so im not sure what you are asking.. go download some trivial game to your Downloads directory then in the cli use 'cd /home/YOURUSERNAME/Downloads'    then 'wine thenameofthedownload.exe'
[22:58] <iNTEl> or dev/sda ?
[22:58] <dr_willis> iNTEl:  You use the PATH.. neither of those are PATHS.
[22:59] <dr_willis> Now is time for you to go hit up a bash tutorial and learn about paths i think.
[22:59] <iNTEl> dr_willis : relax , u just helping amagine that u an addict of conquer online and haven't play it for 3 days
[23:00] <iNTEl> dr_willis : i think the addict ( me ) will give up from co , mean quit
[23:00] <iNTEl> dr_willis : and am XD
[23:00] <XMENDES> wethepeople - i ve tried this.. but the envy dont works on 12.04 too
[23:00] <iNTEl> dr_willis : u say XD 2
[23:00] <Kaiser92> hi to all
[23:00] <Kaiser92> i need help about some crashes i meet on my ubuntu studio version
[23:00] <Kaiser92> anyone can help me?
[23:01] <iNTEl> dr_willis : tell me the path and how i type it and how i can browse me HDD and partitions from the terminal
[23:01] <iNTEl> dr_willis : am learning fast , but not 2 fast :D
[23:01] <MonkeyDust> Kaiser92  there's also the channel #ubuntustudio
[23:02] <XMENDES> anyone with nvidia mx 4000 on ubuntu 12.04?
[23:02] <antimatroid> WeThePeople: cheers :)
[23:02] <antimatroid> delayed sorry aha
[23:02] <XMENDES> iḿ looking for the corretly driver for this
[23:03] <chronofusion> sorry xmendes..that card is around 7 plus years old
[23:03] <XMENDES> eheheheh yes
[23:03] <de> i am trying to run a command to install non free codecs. It says unable to locate package non-free-codecs and another error
[23:03] <de> heres the command
[23:03] <de> sudo apt-get install non-free-codecs libxine1-ffmpeg gxine mencoder totem-mozilla icedax tagtool easytag id3tool lame nautilus-script-audio-convert libmad0 mpg321 mpg123libjpeg-progs
[23:03] <XMENDES> but then ubuntu 10.04 has a driver
[23:03] <Or1on> wilee-nilee, it still requires sudo to work. I'm giving up for now.
[23:04] <XMENDES> i think gonna make a downgrade on my ubuntu
[23:04] <XMENDES> to 10.10 at least
[23:04] <MonkeyDust> XMENDES  10.10 is not supported
[23:04] <wilee-nilee> XMENDES, 10.10 is end of life
[23:04] <XMENDES> this card works on 9.04
[23:05] <MonkeyDust> worked
[23:05] <XMENDES> this pc is five years old ..
[23:05] <XMENDES> ok guys... downgrade on ubuntu :/ until buy a new Gcard.
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> my old pc is 11 years old, working on it as we speak
[23:06] <XMENDES> thanks for help.
[23:06] <iNTEl> monkeydust : can i pm u
[23:06] <MonkeyDust> no
[23:06] <XMENDES> monkey pc 5 y old.. but my gcard.. is 7 our 8 y old
[23:06] <XMENDES> kkkkk
[23:06] <iNTEl> monkeydust : lol , u shocked me
[23:07] <iNTEl> monkeydust : please tell me how ubuntu work on ur pc
[23:07] <iNTEl> monkeydust : my pc is 3 or 4 yrs
[23:07] <XMENDES> lol.. this gonna be 6.04 vs
[23:07] <XMENDES> kkkk
[23:07] <iNTEl> monkeydust : but i can't run my games , or do anything
[23:08] <XMENDES> for games i have a ps3. lol
[23:08] <MonkeyDust> iNTEl  i'm no gamer, i use the old pc remotely, headless
[23:08] <XMENDES> im just use to web and little things too.
[23:08] <iNTEl> monkeydust : help me ?
[23:09] <XMENDES> dont need a high performance pc yet
[23:09] <iNTEl> monkeydust : hepme hepme
[23:09] <iNTEl> monkeydust : XD XD
[23:09] <XMENDES> buy guys.. tks a lot!!!
[23:10] <iNTEl> oh , that's cool , cuz i can't understand it
[23:10] <iNTEl> i have to improve me lang skills
[23:10] <iNTEl> its really boring
[23:10] <iNTEl> i was think the mean of ubuntu
[23:10] <iNTEl> is working here
[23:10] <iNTEl> but no one help another
[23:11] <iNTEl> like 100 or 200 member in the channel
[23:11] <iNTEl> and they r not speak
[23:11] <iNTEl> bt
[23:11] <iNTEl> bot
[23:11] <iNTEl> ubottu : hey
[23:12] <iNTEl> floodbot1 : hey
[23:12] <wad> So, when I plug in my external USB drive, it gets mounted in /media with the UUID number. That's great, but I'd rather it mounted to a different place, on a specific mount point. I put an entry in /etc/fstab for it, but when I boot and it's not there, the computer halts until I tell it to continue. I've been manually uncommenting the line in fstab, doing "mount -a", then commenting it out again. I tried adding the "nofail" option in there, didn't do anything. Id
[23:12] <wad> eas?
[23:13] <dr_willis> wad:  set a label on the filesystem  and it will use /media/filesystemlabel
[23:14] <Troy^> wad: had a similiar problem.. but it seemed to be a problem using UUID for some reason so i used the action device /dev/sdd1
[23:14] <wad> hmm.
[23:14] <Troy^> wad: this is my fstab, /dev/sdd1 is the external
[23:14] <Troy^> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1201527/
[23:14]  * wad looks
[23:14] <dr_willis> use the noauto option for external media perhaps.
[23:14] <iNTEl> i really think that my arabic channel is better than this
[23:14] <iNTEl> #linuxac
[23:15] <Troy^> lol good for you
[23:15] <iNTEl> nobody on it but if there there is someone will help as possible
[23:15] <wad> what does "noauto" do?
[23:15] <iNTEl> cu guys
[23:15] <dr_willis> UUID=779265E2127472CA  /media/willis/SilverDisk ntfs-3g  defaults,nosuid,nodev,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 0          mounts on boot for me. external Ntfs
[23:15] <dr_willis> tells it to not mount at the initial boot.
[23:15] <iNTEl> and don't try what UBUNTU mean
[23:15] <dr_willis> but i dont need it.
[23:16] <wad> dr_willis, but will it automount later on in the boot process?
[23:16] <iNTEl> Ubuntu : Am Exist Cause Of Others
[23:16] <wad> I'd like it to automatically mount when it's plugged in.
[23:16] <dr_willis> wad:  mount /media/whatever     can mount it..
[23:16]  * wad nods. Got it.
[23:16] <dr_willis> wad:  on Plugged IN is differnt then at boot time with it being there.
[23:16] <Troy^> wad: then apt-get install usbmount
[23:17] <dr_willis> i normally dont  do such things with my external usb hds. ;)
[23:17] <wad> Ah, so if I just leave the entry in fstab, with "noauto", then it won't mount automatically when I boot with it plugged in, but if I plug it in afterwards, it will?
[23:17] <dr_willis> i just set the label then make links from like    /home/willis/Storage   to -  /media/thelabel
[23:18] <dr_willis> it wont mount untill you tell it to mount.
[23:18] <lnxslck> hello all
[23:18] <wad> Ah, okay.
[23:18] <lnxslck> do you guys know of any tool that keeps a log of internet usage? like an internet counter?
[23:21] <wad> lnxslck, you mean, like squid?
[23:21] <Troy^> lnxslck: uhh ntop does as well
[23:22] <lnxslck> wad, not really, some graphic tool that shows how many kbytes i've sent and received
[23:22] <lnxslck> and that keeps log of that, so i can see how many mb i've used, per day, or per month
[23:22] <Troy^> lnxslck: ntop
[23:22] <wad> lnxslck, the system monitor kinda does that.....
[23:22] <lnxslck> wad, but it doesn't keep history
[23:23] <lnxslck> Troy^, i will try ntop
[23:23] <wad> Yeah, just for that one session.
[23:23] <lnxslck> wad, i have a prepaid internet connection, so i need to control my internet usage per month
[23:23] <Troy^> lnxslck: ntop is the complete package for network monitoring
[23:23] <lnxslck> Troy^, does it keep history? or is just for that session?
[23:23] <wad> lnxslck, oh yeah, I see the need. Good idea.
[23:24] <Troy^> lnxslck: look at it, it is forever
[23:24] <lnxslck> Troy^, i'm googling it right now
[23:24] <TeamRocket1233c> How light would MATE be if its window manager were replaced with Openbox and its panel were replaced with Tint2?
[23:25] <TeamRocket1233c> I mean if that's doable with GNOME 2 than it should be doable with MATE.
[23:25] <lnxslck> TeamRocket1233c, why not just go with openbox and tint2?
[23:26] <TeamRocket1233c> lnxslck: Just curious about the outcome of an Openbox-based MATE with a Tint2 panel, that's all.
[23:26] <lnxslck> TeamRocket1233c, ok. i do use openbox and tint2
[23:26] <lnxslck> but not mate
[23:27] <TeamRocket1233c> Plus I spotted a screenshot of GNOME 2 with Openbox as the WM and it looked pretty decent.
[23:27] <lnxslck> TeamRocket1233c, not sure why you would want that
[23:27] <lnxslck> TeamRocket1233c, when you can go just with openbox standalone
[23:28] <TeamRocket1233c> Well, you'd get a full-blown DE,
[23:29] <lnxslck> so why not just go with one or other?
[23:29] <lnxslck> even that openbox is not a de
[23:29] <Troy^> XFCE ftw
[23:31] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: You could actually make Xfce look a little nicer by changing the panel.
[23:31] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: Spotted someone who had an Xfce desktop with a Tint2 panel and it looked pretty sweet.
[23:32] <Troy^> TeamRocket1233c: which panel hmm
[23:32] <Troy^> here is mine atm TeamRocket1233c http://img855.imageshack.us/img855/2089/1014f.png
[23:32] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: Xfce4 + Tint2 panel.
[23:32] <lnxslck> Troy^, ntop, seems a bit hard to configure or get it running
[23:33] <Troy^> lnxslck: not really there is lots of tutorials or guides just need to look them up
[23:33] <JonJ> Troy^: Your dock is awn?
[23:33] <lnxslck> Troy^, ntop runs like a daemon and then you see the results on a web browser?
[23:33] <Troy^> JonJ: awn?
[23:33] <Troy^> lnxslck: correct
[23:33] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: Really though, nothing beats an invisible panel as far as sleek goes.
[23:34] <Troy^> yea but functionality is where it is at
[23:34] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: Invisible or transparent or translucent panel, and hey, if Tint2 works great combined with Openbox, it would work great combined with Xfce4, GNOME Shell, or MATE too.
[23:35] <Troy^> JonJ: the dock is docky
[23:35] <JonJ> Troy^: Ah, okay. Thanks
[23:36] <Troy^> TeamRocket1233c: i would have to see a screenshot i gues
[23:36] <delinquentme> does upgrading packages... require a reboot?
[23:36] <zykotick9> delinquentme: usually no, for kernel - yes
[23:36] <OerHeks> delinquentme, if the upgrade tool says so.
[23:36] <delinquentme> and does " sudo apt-get upgrade" do anything?
[23:37] <zykotick9> delinquentme: yes, but not quite as much as "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[23:37] <delinquentme> check.
[23:37] <fengshaun__> how can I match the '^[' (escape) character in vim?
[23:38] <fengshaun__> I can't do /\^\[
[23:39] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: GNOME Shell + Tint2. http://www.micahcarrick.com/images/migrating-to-gnome-3/tint2-panel-large.png
[23:39] <Tech-Itch> I can't get jackd to work. or maybe I have misconfigured it. I'm truly lost. help
[23:40] <Tech-Itch> I'm trying to start up the server using QjackCtl to no avail
[23:42] <Tech-Itch> I get this msg when trying to start it up. Could not connect to JACK server as client.
[23:42] <Troy^> is that yours TeamRocket1233c
[23:43] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: Nope, but it's an example of how GNOME Shell would look with Tint2.
[23:44] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: I don't have a PC with anywhere near enough horsepower for GNOME Shell.
[23:44] <Troy^> oh TeamRocket1233c what do you run then
[23:45] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: Crunchbang Statler with the stock Openbox config on a PII with 128 megs of RAM.
[23:45] <Troy^> TeamRocket1233c: omg why?
[23:46] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: Can't handle anything heavier.
[23:46] <Troy^> TeamRocket1233c: man i could give you a P3 with 512mb of ram..  no i mean't why so old.. even my server has more horsepower my ubuntu server is a p4 2.6gb with 2gb of ram
[23:47] <Troy^> ghz*
[23:47] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: I'm just stuck with a PC that old.
[23:47] <PoolShark_> that's old?
[23:47] <Troy^> TeamRocket1233c: kijiji or ebay could find you way more for like 50-100 bucks :P
[23:48] <PoolShark_> https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-Pbq381am4Lk/S-rGnKwaLjI/AAAAAAAAMPY/dBfnusfBjO0/s640/win311.JPG
[23:48] <PoolShark_> :)
[23:48] <PoolShark_> THAT'S old
[23:48] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: I could probably buy a PIII~500 and swap out the PII with that temporarily, and then add about a CD's worth of RAM to it to hold up until I can at least get a Core 2 Duo with 2 gigs of RAM.
[23:49] <true_techie> where can i find out the name of the port that a device is connected to?
[23:49] <Troy^> i could give you a p3 800 lol if you lived close enough
[23:49] <Troy^> true_techie: what device?
[23:49] <Troy^> PoolShark_: why would you do that?
[23:49] <true_techie> Troy^, a peripheril device, namely a phone
[23:49] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: PIII~800 and PIII~1GHz are available in Slot 1, right?
[23:50] <Troy^> true_techie: lsusb
[23:50] <trism> fengshaun__: / ctrl+v escape
[23:50] <Troy^> TeamRocket1233c: no idea lol, been so long since ive used it, it does work though
[23:50] <true_techie> will try it
[23:51] <PoolShark_> Troy^: Long story, but the short version is that I need Win31 to run the BBS software I'm going to use to create a 9600bps link between two old 1990's USR Courier modems using the audio channel of 2m radios instead of an actual dialup link
[23:51] <Troy^> lol wow PoolShark_
[23:52] <nrdb> PoolShark_, thats an interesting little project.
[23:52] <fengshaun__> trism, oh genius!  Thanks!
[23:52] <PoolShark_> yeah it'll be fun to see if we can get it going
[23:53] <PoolShark_> going to use two channels for duplex
[23:53] <Troy^> hmm two channels one for down and one for up would be more bandwidth
[23:53] <PoolShark_> yes it will
[23:53] <PoolShark_> two standard 12kHz channels
[23:54] <TeamRocket1233c> Troy^: I'm a little curious as to how GNOME 3 would operate with Tint2 panel and Docky dock.
[23:55] <Troy^> TeamRocket1233c: yea gnome 3 is alright I had problems with it when i tried using it when it first came out had bugs with ati driver. So have become a big xfce fan even though i could run whatever i wanted
[23:57] <delinquentme> if I'm installing MYSQL on my system ... I should create a new user to handle the mysql installation right?  How do I do that in ubuntu ... from the command line?
[23:58] <OerHeks> delinquentme, ithat info is all here >> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP
[23:58] <OerHeks> and more