[00:05] <ralsina> mmcc: twisted throws an exception that says "connection closed cleanly". So not surprised there :-(
[08:06] <JamesTait> Happy middle-of-the-week, everyone! :-D
[08:15]  * czajkowski waves to mandel 
[10:32] <czajkowski> I spy mandel
[11:11] <gatox> good morning!
[12:01] <alecu> hello all!
[12:05] <gatox> alecu, hi
[12:12] <gatox> alecu,  i have the example syncmenu working with python..... i don't know if you saw my email.... i was missing the new method..... because App was creating the instance and it says that it doeesn't take any arg.... now its working :D
[12:13] <alecu> gatox: great!
[12:13] <alecu> gatox: yes, I saw the email from charles too.
[12:14] <mandel> alecu, sorr for yesterday.. I left suddenly cause I managed to badly break my machine
[12:14] <mandel> to the point of re-install..
[12:14] <alecu> mandel: ugh!
[12:15] <mandel> alecu, yes, I wasted a few hours fixing the thing..
[12:15] <mandel> alecu, the good news is that I've started fixing the dash bugs because the preview is 'done' (waiting on a visual design with details about fonts, spaces etc..)
[12:16] <mandel> alecu, first one I'm tackling is the PreviewStateMachine which is the one that is not showing the second preview correctly
[12:16] <alecu> mandel: awesome!
[12:16] <mandel> and that guy I already have 'hacked' to just show the back button with payment preview but not the right one, so we get the preview for payment and can get back to the other
[12:16] <mandel> alecu, need to talk with ux about it though
[12:17] <alecu> mandel: awesome.
[12:17] <mandel> alecu, other bug is the focus of key events that are all hidden by the global search, I know where to look at, no idea if I'll be able to fix it..
[12:18] <mandel> I'm off to lunch with chipaca, catch you after lunch :)
[12:18] <alecu> mandel: right... well, is that nux stuff or dash stuff?
[12:18] <alecu> mandel: sure, have lunch, let's mumble when you get back.
[12:19] <mandel> alecu,  dash problems, nux does it ok
[12:35] <dobey> hmm
[12:35] <dobey> gatox: ah, you had to call SyncMenu.App.new()?
[12:36] <dobey> so the gir is broken i guess :)
[12:36] <gatox> dobey, yap
[12:52] <ralsina> good morning!
[12:53] <ralsina> I am again in a bar because apparently my internet connection fails every morning at 9:10 AM
[12:57] <gatox> ralsina, hi!
[12:57] <ralsina> hi gatox, saw your emails, so, did that work?
[12:57] <gatox> ralsina, yep..... i'm moving forward
[13:01] <ralsina> awesome
[13:04] <gatox> ralsina, it was a silly thing.... but causes a lot of segmentation faults :P
[13:04] <ralsina> yes saw it, missing optional mandatory parameter ;-)
[13:05] <gatox> the funny thing is that i tried to do it on App('id')..... but it says that it doesn't take any arg..... so, i dismiss it
[13:07] <gatox> brb
[13:12] <vila_> mmcc: pingeling
[13:12] <ralsina> vila_: still a bit early formmcc
[13:12] <ralsina> vila_: probably in an hour or so
[13:13] <ralsina> vila_: we need to schedule the testing later in the day, sorry for not noticing
[13:14] <gatox> back
[13:45] <dobey> ralsina: review for https://code.launchpad.net/~dobey/ubuntuone-client-data/update-4-0/+merge/123965 please?
[13:45] <ralsina> dobey: got it
[14:08] <rye> ralsina: are we getting an indicator this cycle for Ubuntu?
[14:08] <ralsina> rye: yes
[14:08] <ralsina> rye: actually, we are getting integrated into unity's new "sync menu"
[14:09] <ralsina> dobey: +1
[14:10] <rye> ralsina: i can has sync menu, i am on Quantal!
[14:10] <rye> ?
[14:11] <ralsina> rye: it's still ... not finished? ;)
[14:12] <dobey> doh, forgot to tweak the reviewer/subscription settings
[14:12] <ralsina> rye: you can have almost the same functionality by installing sni-qt and running u1cp --with-icon
[14:12] <ralsina> rye: the final integrated version will not require you to run u1cp all the time, though
[14:16] <chaselivingston> hey guys, got a new darwin build i can test? :)
[14:17] <ralsina> mmcc: ping ^
[14:17] <ralsina> chaselivingston: mmcc was doing one last night, but I have not seen it
[14:17] <rye> ralsina: http://ubuntuone.com/4o0qdudDJxlRdYQBvzXFd1 :)
[14:18] <rye> ralsina: it was this way for 5 seconds then loaded properly
[14:18] <ralsina> rye: looking...
[14:18] <chaselivingston> ralsina: gotcha, was just chatting w/ roberta and she mentioned there were plans to send something to QA soon so i wanted to try and get that build, the one i currently have doesn't work very well :)
[14:18] <ralsina> chaselivingston: yes, the plan was getting it done today
[14:19] <ralsina> rye: ugh, but yes, that has been happening lately
[15:00] <ralsina> me
[15:00] <dobey> me
[15:00] <gatox> me
[15:00] <mmcc> me
[15:01] <briancurtin> me
[15:01] <ralsina> alecu, thisfred: say me
[15:01] <alecu> me
[15:01] <ralsina> thisfred: you are last. Go me :-)
[15:01] <ralsina> DONE: mgmt call, other calls, 1-1s, reviews TODO: more calls, reviews BLOCKED: no NEXT: dobey
[15:01] <thisfred> me
[15:01] <dobey> DONE: releases, uploads, control-panel FFe, dropped installer dep in ubuntu
[15:01] <dobey> TODO: final releases/uploads, re-upload of u1client for u1client-data FFe/MIR
[15:01] <dobey> BLCK: None.
[15:01] <dobey> gatox: go
[15:02] <gatox> DONE:
[15:02] <gatox> Play around with gobject introspection and the SyncMenu. Get the same C example working on Python. Start looking at ubuntuone-client to see where it should be integrated.
[15:02] <gatox> TODO:
[15:02] <gatox> Write the tests and implement the SyncMenu in u1-client
[15:02] <gatox> BLOCKED:
[15:02] <gatox> No
[15:02] <gatox> mmcc, go
[15:02] <mmcc> DONE: testing launchd daemon, quit problems
[15:02] <mmcc> TODO: build, qa,
[15:02] <mmcc> NEXT: briancurtin
[15:02] <briancurtin> DONE: webclient porting, 1-1
[15:02] <briancurtin> TODO: keep pushing on to reduce failures, working on webclient oauth tests right now
[15:02] <briancurtin> NEXT: alecu
[15:02] <alecu> DONE: dug deeper in the depths of vala and our webservices
[15:02] <alecu> TODO: find a vala way to turn async code inside out
[15:02] <alecu> BLOCKED: kinda
[15:02] <alecu> NEXT: thisfred
[15:03] <thisfred> DONE: u1db basic auth / server playlists TODO: u1db server playlists BLOCKED: no
[15:03] <ralsina> ok, comments?
[15:03] <alecu> gatox: "Get the same C example working on Python." <- great!
[15:03] <gatox> alecu, thx :D
[15:04] <ralsina> EOM then
[15:05] <mmcc> I saw the pings - I didn't get back to the computer last night, building a new .app now.
[15:05] <ralsina> mmcc: cool
[15:11] <thisfred> ralsina, reminder that I will be gone for 2 weeks starting sept. 24, on account of getting the hell out of Dodge/Baltimore.
[15:12] <ralsina> thisfred: awesome :-)
[15:12] <ralsina> thisfred: to Portland right?
[15:13] <thisfred> yep, we found a place
[15:13] <ralsina> thisfred: cool
[15:13] <mmcc> thisfred: what part of town will you be in?
[15:13] <thisfred> mmcc, north east of the river, I think it's called Boise
[15:13] <ralsina> Isn't Boise the capital of Idaho?
[15:14] <ralsina> random inaccurate data, brought to you by ralsina, encyclopedia of useless and slightly off data.
[15:14] <pedronis> ralsina: name reuse is popular anyway
[15:15] <chaselivingston> mmcc: any news on an updated darwin build?
[15:15] <thisfred> ralsina, it is, but it's also the name of the neighbourhood
[15:15] <ralsina> pedronis: goes to show cartography is not real science. Imagine if we called random animals "dogs" just because.
[15:15] <mmcc> chaselivingston: in progress now. my apologies for not having it yesterday
[15:16] <chaselivingston> mmcc: not a problem, just making sure i hadn't missed it :)
[15:16] <ralsina> thisfred: hope the rat population is under control there :-)
[15:16] <ralsina> thisfred: and that they are not part of the typical local cuisine
[15:16] <thisfred> ralsina, it is physically impossible that it is worse than here
[15:16] <ralsina> thisfred: and other random scary fake anecdotes about baltimore you have fed me over two years ;-)
[15:17] <thisfred> it's not all bad, but the bad parts are pretty bad.
[15:17] <briancurtin> ralsina: you should watch the TV series "The Wire"
[15:17] <pedronis> ralsina: oh the big fun of when people give you a city name and a street name in the US but not the state
[15:17] <ralsina> pedronis: evergreen avenue, springfield!
[15:17] <thisfred> and Baltimore the good parts might be thinner than Javascript the good parts ;)
[15:17] <briancurtin> *evergreen terrace
[15:17] <ralsina> oops, sorry
[15:17] <dobey> heh
[15:17] <ralsina> it's 'avenida siempreviva' in spanish, so I was guessing ;-)
[15:18] <thisfred> actually Matt Groening is from Portland
[15:18] <dobey> so are skinny jeans
[15:18] <ralsina> so is cement?
[15:19] <thisfred> so is Stumptown Coffee, so I still win :)
[15:19] <mmcc> ralsina: Isle of Portland in Dorset
[15:19] <thisfred> not to mention Voodoo donuts
[15:19] <dobey> eh
[15:20] <mmcc> btw thisfred, you are ~3 miles from Kenny & Zuke's Delicatessen. I'm jealous
[15:20]  * thisfred puts that on his bucket list
[15:20] <mmcc> also thisfred see http://mrgan.com/pdxfood/
[15:20]  * dobey will keep his sweet tea and pork bbq. you can have all the hipster vegetarians
[15:20]  * ralsina 's bucket list: 1) a bucket 2) a different bucket
[15:21] <thisfred> ralsina, sounds more like a hashmap :P
[15:21] <dobey> "How are you today, sir?" "Better." "Better?" "Better get a bucket."
[15:21] <ralsina> thisfred: it's my <ol>  of buckets
[15:21] <thisfred> mmcc, have heard great things about Pok Pok. I think they recently opened a restaurant in NY too
[15:22] <dobey> there's a Nando's in Washington D.C. now
[15:23] <dobey> and mattgriffin still wins. he has the moth
[15:24] <thisfred> That's a great place, I admit. But there's great restaurants in Baltimore too. Portland just has a ton more, and a lot more cheap and good options.
[15:24] <thisfred> lots of food trucks too
[15:26] <dobey> hooray; ubuntuone-installer is gone.
[15:26] <thisfred> also, we have a brewery across the street. This could prove a mistake.
[15:26] <dobey> now if we can get rid of ubuntuone-couch
[15:27] <thisfred> dobey, or at least rename it to u1-auth or something, and take out the couch parts
[15:27] <dobey> well, that was one of the other many projects i didn't get around to this cycle
[15:28] <dobey> moving all the "credentials" stuff for u1 into ubuntuone-credentials, and getting rid of u1-couch
[15:28] <thisfred> yeah
[15:28] <dobey> but maybe i'll do that first thing after the 12.10 release
[15:28] <dobey> just to get it done
[15:29] <ralsina> dobey: good idea
[15:29] <ralsina> dobey: we could clean up a lot of that sort of things
[15:29] <dobey> or maybe today if i get furious enough
[15:30] <dobey> i'm sure release team would ♥ me doing another FFE/newpackage/MIR today
[15:31] <ralsina> dobey: have some calmdown tea :-)
[15:32] <ralsina> dobey: and let's set aside a couple of weeks right after release to wreak havoc
[15:32] <thisfred> that's not the one made from coca leaves
[15:33] <mmcc> thisfred: just noticed that http://slappycakes.com/ isn't on that list… if you like breakfast foods, that's a fun spot
[15:33] <ralsina> thisfred: coca tea is both delicious, and seriously WAKEUPDUDE effective
[15:33] <thisfred> Yeah I had it in Cordoba
[15:34] <mmcc> oops, this build will have the share links tab in it again…
[15:34] <thisfred> thx, another one for the list
[15:37] <dobey> thisfred: you were not there for the platform sprint were you?
[15:38]  * dobey doesn't remember
[15:38] <mmcc> ugh, moving a big .zip into a watched folder with the root daemon generates a MakeFile but no upload action…
[15:39] <mmcc> >_<
[15:39] <thisfred> dobey, where? Portland? no, I've only ever been there when I was going to a wedding in Seattle.
[15:39]  * gatox lunch
[15:40] <dobey> thisfred: yeah. this place was pretty good: http://www.veritablequandary.com/
[15:41] <thisfred> menu looks awesome yeah
[15:41] <thisfred> and brunch
[15:41] <mmcc> mmmm, brunch
[15:41] <dobey> mmm, elevensies
[15:45] <mmcc> here's the most recent build of the mac client: http://ubuntuone.com/6WRvVdrg5EJc1alQM6EFb9
[15:45] <mmcc> cc chaselivingston ---^
[15:45] <chaselivingston> mmcc: thanks :)
[15:46] <mmcc> you will have to change or delete your syncdaemon.conf to enable the new daemon. there's info in the README inside that .zip
[15:46] <chaselivingston> mmcc: cool, thanks for the heads up
[15:46] <ralsina> vila: ^
[15:47] <mmcc> btw, chaselivingston and vila - this has a non-working share links tab. I will need to re-remove (or fix) that for our public release. but fyi, don't expect that to work
[15:48] <chaselivingston> mmcc: ack
[15:48] <vila> mmcc: ghaa, just finished my tests :-/
[15:48] <mmcc> vila: d'oh
[15:48] <vila> mmcc: which went pretty well, so we certainly do need more ;)
[15:49] <mmcc> vila: confused - need more tests?
[15:50] <ralsina> mmcc: of course. There are always bugs, so if the tests pass, we need more tests :-)
[15:51] <vila> mmcc: if you mention some fix to remove or things that don't work and I didn't encounter any issues, I need to have more tests that would have reveal that ;)
[15:51] <mmcc> aha. and here I thought I could just go to brunch :)
[15:51] <vila> mmcc: go to brunch !
[15:52] <mmcc> :) kidding, I just got here. I'm going to see if I can reproduce this sync bug with the new daemon that I ran into trying to upload the new build
[15:54] <chaselivingston> mmcc: remind me how to see the waiting transfers and such w/ u1sdtool?
[15:54] <mmcc> % ./UbuntuOne.app/Contents/Resources/U1SDTool.app/Contents/MacOS/u1sdtool --current-transfers
[15:56] <chaselivingston> mmcc: ack, thanks
[15:56] <mmcc> brb, coffee
[15:59] <chaselivingston> mmcc: seem to be stuck at file sync starting… fwiw i wasn't asked for my admin password
[16:05] <ralsina> I am running out of battery, so will have to head back home, and either hope the internet there works, or grab the power adapter and head bac out.
[16:05] <ralsina> So, will be back eventually.
[16:11] <dobey> need to get lunch, bbiab
[16:15] <thisfred> all this talk of brunch made me fry eggs and bacon
[16:23] <mmcc> chaselivingston: hmm. you should've been asked. can you paste the contents of your controlpanel.log?
[16:24] <chaselivingston> mmcc: where is that located?
[16:25] <mmcc> chaselivingston: ~/Library/Caches/ubuntuone/log/controlpanel.log
[16:25] <mmcc> chaselivingston: also, can you check if you have more than one ubuntuone-syncdaemon process running?
[16:26] <chaselivingston> mmcc: https://pastebin.canonical.com/74338/
[16:26] <chaselivingston> mmcc: did check that, only saw one
[16:27]  * mmcc had to go get my phone for 2-factor… looking now
[16:28] <mmcc> chaselivingston: ok, it looks like maybe you already had the daemon installed from one of the earlier builds. this shouldn't be a problem for people who only had the alpha from two weeks ago, but you've been using other builds, right?
[16:29] <chaselivingston> mmcc: right
[16:29] <mmcc> so can you paste the results of 'sudo launchctl list com.ubuntu.one.fsevents'
[16:30] <chaselivingston> mmcc: https://pastebin.canonical.com/74339/
[16:30] <mmcc> and the resultlts of 'grep com.ubuntu /var/log/system.log'
[16:32] <chaselivingston> mmcc: https://pastebin.canonical.com/74340/
[16:34] <mmcc> ok, I think it's an old version - so, quit the app, make sure syncdaemon is dead, then remove the existing daemon with 'sudo launchctl remove com.ubuntu.one.fsevents', and try restarting the app again. it should ask for your password then
[16:35] <chaselivingston> mmcc: ah, there we go, asked for password and now file sync is in progress
[16:38] <chaselivingston> mmcc: seems to be syncing as well
[16:41] <mmcc> chaselivingston: great. If you have a chance, can you test dragging a file into the watched folder using the finder works? That's the bug I ran into. I have a hunch that it's ignoring some event flags, but I wanted to be sure it's not just me
[16:42] <chaselivingston> mmcc: i actually did that earlier and it shows up on the web
[16:42] <mmcc> hrm. ok, thanks!
[16:42] <chaselivingston> mmcc: no problem!
[16:44] <mandel> I cannot believe that compiz crashes as much as it does..
[17:28]  * alecu is off to have lunch and run some errands
[18:24] <alecu> and I'm back
[18:43] <gatox> brb
[18:50] <gatox> back
[19:06] <dobey> meh; going to take forever to build stuff in a PPA today
[19:15] <mmcc> so, a couple people had issues with today's build because a previous build installed the old non-working root daemon. I'm adding better daemon version checking so we can avoid having to tell people to 'sudo launchctl remove' the daemon before running a new build
[19:16] <ralsina> mmcc: ok
[19:16] <mmcc> it always checked the version, now it does something with that :)
[19:16] <mmcc> this was on the list after 'get it working'
[19:17] <ralsina> hahaha
[19:24] <dobey> bah, i really want some soft pretzels right now
[19:25] <dobey> or an alternative form of lots of carbs/sugar might be acceptable. like beer
[19:26] <ralsina> dobey: since you are in core hours, make that light beer.
[19:26] <ralsina> or some non-alcoholic beverage, like Budweiser.
[19:26] <dobey> lol
[19:27] <dobey> in only drink light beers… like Chimay
[19:36] <ralsina> hmmmm chimay
[19:47] <mmcc> still far from beer time here - I'm drinking Ubuntu Coffee
[19:47] <mmcc> really - http://www.allegrocoffee.com/coffee/coffee-products/coffee-blends#cafe-ubuntu
[20:02] <mmcc> thisfred, if you're still around, just saw this on twitter: http://xoxofest.com/guide/  -- a guide to cool stuff in portland
[20:03] <thisfred> mmcc, awesome, thx!
[20:14] <gatox> people, eod for me..... see you tomorrow!! enjoy :D
[20:15] <ralsina> bye gatox!
[20:15] <gatox> ralsina, bye
[20:59] <mmcc> lunch
[21:08] <ralsina> EOD for me, as usual, will do reviews at night on request
[21:08] <ralsina> bye!
[21:44] <dobey> ok, am off as well. have a good evening all
[21:48] <mmcc> back from lunch
[22:41] <mmcc> so ctypes uses a single underscore for the _fields_ magic variable. only, code using wrong double underscores worked fine without it. what is it even for?
[23:01] <mmcc> have to go now, ctypes is making it hard to print the errors so I can tell why I don't have permission to remove the old daemon from code…
[23:02] <mmcc> will try to get back to this tonight