[02:43] <xubuntu399> Need some help installing the ISO
[02:43] <holstein> xubuntu399: installing the iso to a USB stick? or installing the operating system using the iso?
[02:43] <xubuntu399> anyone able to help?
[02:43] <bazhang> burning it to cd or usb
[02:44] <xubuntu399> burned it to a DVD after a bit torrent download
[02:44] <bazhang> so whats the issue
[02:44] <xubuntu399> not being recognized during boot
[02:44] <holstein> xubuntu399: is it a DVD rom?
[02:44] <bazhang> md5 the iso yet?
[02:45] <xubuntu399> yes
[02:45] <bazhang> do the disk integrity check after a slow burn speed?
[02:45] <xubuntu399> k
[02:45] <gratefulj> can anybody help me install my wireless usb... i think i have the driver install with ndiswrapper but i can't see it in my panel
[02:46] <xubuntu399> disk integity is good
[02:46] <holstein> xubuntu399: you checked from the menu at boot?
[02:47] <xubuntu399> no. how?
[02:48] <holstein> xubuntu399: at boot, there is a disk check...
[02:48] <gratefulj> hardware says its present in the windows wireless drivers app
[02:48] <holstein> gratefulj: thats good... you dont see the wifi icon? the network icon?
[02:48] <gratefulj> no
[02:49] <gratefulj> and in the panel it just has enable networking, no notion of wireless
[02:49] <holstein> gratefulj: output lsusb in
[02:49] <holstein> !paste | gratefulj
[02:50] <xubuntu399> what does it look like?
[02:50] <holstein> xubuntu399: its a menu item ... tap shift, should say "confirm iso" or "check disk"
[02:50] <gratefulj> looks like i need to install yagiuda
[02:51] <holstein> gratefulj: for?..you can just open a terminald and type that and paste it in. no yagiuda needed
[02:51] <gratefulj> when i  type output says command not found
[02:51] <gratefulj> suggested i installed that
[02:52] <holstein> gratefulj: lsusb ?
[02:52] <gratefulj> ouput
[02:52] <gratefulj> output
[02:53] <gratefulj> but each command says i need a -option
[02:55] <gratefulj> your command you posted didn't work
[02:55] <holstein> gratefulj: share all the ouput
[02:55] <holstein> gratefulj: you can paste it in a pastebin
[02:56] <gratefulj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1199844/
[02:56] <xubuntu399> not on this system
[02:57] <xubuntu399> I am in the BIOS and cant get the system to boot from the DVD drive
[02:57] <xubuntu399> it is that or the disk is the problem
[02:58] <holstein> xubuntu399: all of those are different... i would try ruling that out.. maybe try booting the DVD in another machine.. boot another DVD in that machine
[02:58] <holstein> gratefulj: OK
[02:58] <holstein> open a terminal and type this
[02:58] <holstein> lsusb
[02:58] <holstein> then hit enter and past that output
[02:59] <xubuntu399> I think I ruled it out. I know there are several versions of the software. How do I decide which one to use. IE how do I figure out 32 vs 64 bit
[02:59] <holstein> xubuntu399: 32 will typically always work
[03:00] <holstein> xubuntu399: i would google the hardware if i didnt see anything anywhere on the unit
[03:00] <gratefulj> i see it
[03:01] <gratefulj> http://paste.ubuntu.com/1199847/
[03:03] <holstein> gratefulj: i would refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx and see if you even need ndis
[03:03] <holstein> i would just try installing the b43-fwcutter and firmware-b43-installer packages
[03:06] <gratefulj> then what?
[03:06] <holstein> gratefulj: i would reboot or reload as the page suggests and see if the device works..
[03:08] <gratefulj> hmm
[03:08] <gratefulj> i think you fixed my internal wireless
[03:08] <gratefulj> but the usb one i bought still doesn't connect
[03:08] <gratefulj> interesting
[03:10] <gratefulj> thank you
[03:10] <gratefulj> i wonder how much better my usb wireless is
[03:10] <gratefulj> worth the hassle to get it working or not
[03:11] <gratefulj> i'd assume so, comp 5+ years usb brand new
[03:11] <holstein> gratefulj: if you have the reciept, i would just return it and enjoy the functional one
[03:11] <holstein> i dont have an N router though
[03:12] <holstein> you might be able to disable the internal one and get the USB one to work easier
[03:20] <gratefulj> thank you
[04:33] <CQN> what directories do i delete to rest xfce settings? i think i have config files from a previous version of xubuntu left over. i tried deleting ~/.config/xfce, but that had no effect after rebooting
[06:05] <mrdoctorwho> Hello. After last update all Qt-apps that have tray icon placed in Xfce4-indicator-plugin. Is there any way to remove it from indicator and replace to tray?
[06:47] <ochosi> mrdoctorwho: there might be a package that supports indicators in qt
[06:48] <ochosi> mrdoctorwho: but if you don't find that, you can either remove the indicator-plugin from the panel or uninstall the indicator-application package
[06:54] <mrdoctorwho> ochosi: without it nm-applet and volume applet don't work correctly
[06:55] <mrdoctorwho> And with it Qt-apps don't show popup-menu correctly
[07:55] <pappawagner> Hi. Any tips on how to purge my system from old files after updates?
[08:02] <TheSheep> sudo apt-get autoremove --purge && sudo apt-get autoclean
[08:02] <pappawagner> What will the commands do, just remove old ones ore more?
[08:04] <tsimpson> you should be able to do something like: dpkg --purge $(dpkg -l | grep '^rc' | awk '{print $2}')
[08:04] <TheSheep> the first one will uninstall all the packages that are dependencies of no longer installed packages
[08:04] <TheSheep> the second one deletes the downloaded files
[08:04] <tsimpson> which will get a list of packages which are removed with only config files remaining, then pass that list back to dpkg for purging
[08:06] <pappawagner> Thanks - I'm running the first at the moment :-D
[10:25] <pimperle> i cannot shut down a fresh 12.04 xubuntu installation. i did not change anything, but after logging in, logging out again, i cannot perform a shutdown/reboot from the login screen. Confirming the dialog brings me back to the screen immediately.
[12:19] <wizardslovak> hi ppl
[18:35] <cavi> Hello?
[18:36] <rainfall> Hello
[18:36] <cavi> I am havin issues intalling LSB-Core :/
[18:37] <cavi> cavibird2005@Cavis-Zenbook:~$ sudo apt-get install lsb-core [sudo] password for cavibird2005:  Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree        Reading state information... Done Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable distribution that some required packages have not yet been created or been moved out of Incoming. The following infor
[18:38] <Sysi> cavi: did you run sudo apt-get update
[18:38] <cavi> I can gimme a sec
[18:40] <cavi> same issue afterward
[18:43] <xubuntu206> Hi guys. is anybody russian here? I'm have some definitely stupid questions, can someone help in private messages?
[18:43] <Sysi> !ru
[18:44] <xubuntu206> But questions about xubuntu,not ubuntu?
[18:45] <Mathias> the core is the same, but the user interface/window manager is different
[18:45] <Mathias> so kind of both i think :P
[18:45] <Sysi> loco:s should handle other flavours too
[18:46] <xubuntu206> so, it means , that i can ask on ru channel, and they help me? or just kick/ban,because of lame? =(
[18:46] <xubuntu206> "should"...
[18:46] <Pici> xubuntu206: No one should be kicking you for being new.
[18:47] <xubuntu206> I'm gonna give it aa try. Thanks guys.
[18:55] <xubuntu206> Err, they just ignoring.
[18:59] <xubuntu206> here's the question:When system boots up,and user selecting menu appears,there's a submenu, called"Enviroment" r somethin. if i clik, some menu appears, with Xfce and other lines. Whit is it?
[19:06] <TheSheep> xubuntu206: the default settings and desktop environment to use
[19:06] <TheSheep> xubuntu206: you see, you can have ubuntu, xubuntu, kubuntu, etc. installed at the same time and select them there
[19:07] <xubuntu206> Wow. And, it will be different OS or SAME, with only GUI changed?
[19:07] <xubuntu206> I mean, if i install some apps in Xfce, then they will not work in others, right?
[19:08] <David-A> xubuntu206: In xubuntu there is the alternatives "Xfce session" and "Xubuntu session". different backgrund and menu structure. try both and use what you like best.
[19:08] <Mathias> they will work in others afaik
[19:08] <Mathias> the core is the same, it's just the display manager that's different
[19:08] <David-A> xubuntu206: most programs work in both Xfce, Gnome/Unity and KDE.
[19:09] <xubuntu206> What is this - display manager?
[19:10] <TheSheep> xubuntu206: the program that draws your window borders, decides where to put the windows, which windows should have the focus, etc. -- is the window manager
[19:10] <TheSheep> xubuntu206: there there are other parts, like the program that displays the dekstop, the program that displays the panels, etc.
[19:11] <TheSheep> xubuntu206: together they make a desktop environment
[19:11] <Sysi> David-A: though after first time loggin in settings are saved and shouldn't change
[19:11] <TheSheep> xubuntu206: and ubuntu has several of such sets to choose from
[19:11] <TheSheep> xubuntu206: standard ubuntu uses gnome3 and unity
[19:11] <TheSheep> xubuntu206: kubuntu uses kde
[19:11] <TheSheep> xubuntu206: and xubuntu uses xfce4
[19:12] <xubuntu206> So simple explanation,miracle)
[19:13] <TheSheep> it does get complicated
[19:14] <TheSheep> for example, different applicatiosn will use different widget toolkits, which make them look differently -- so the kde applications may look out of place in unity
[19:14] <TheSheep> but they will work just fine
[19:14] <TheSheep> just look inconsistent
[19:15] <craigbass1976> I'm running the ppc version of 12.04, and a wireless network in range isn't showing up.  This works fine at my house.
[19:16] <TheSheep> craigbass1976: you might check #ubuntu-ppc, because here not many people have experience with it
[19:33] <craigbass1976> TheSheep, Maybe it's not ppc related.  I get the "wireless networks available" message, then nothing shows up in the list.  Have you ever seen this happen?
[19:33] <Mathias> i've seen that happen a couple of times
[19:33] <TheSheep> nope, sorry
[19:33] <Mathias> just need to turn the wireless off and then on again
[19:34] <Mathias> and sometimes need to disable all networking for a couple of minutes
[19:39] <craigbass1976> Weird.  I set it up manually and crossed my fingers, and voila!  Now, I need to take this to a school board meeting tonight and wonder if it will hook up there...
[19:43] <Mathias> :P
[20:39] <tukata> hello
[20:41] <lut_tul> hi
[20:41] <lut_tul> I need help. please tell me how to install a software on xubuntu
[20:41] <lut_tul> example i just download firefox
[20:41] <lut_tul> and I want to install it on ubuntu
[20:41] <lut_tul> How can I do it? please help
[20:43] <Unit193> You don't do it like that, you open synaptic or Ubuntu Software Center and search for firefox.
[20:43] <Unit193> !software | lut_tul