Mamarok | it would be nice if we had taglib 1.8 as it solves quite some problems | 08:12 |
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fregl | Riddell: lately it's been mostly Laszlo doing attica stuff, I'm not up to date. | 08:25 |
Riddell | Mamarok: ack | 08:30 |
Riddell | I want to do a review of all kubuntu packages to check they're up to date | 08:30 |
Riddell | yofel: this might be interesting about the best way of tracking bugs https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/other-q-release-bug-list-workflows | 08:37 |
Riddell | but the whiteboard there is so long I got bored :( | 08:37 |
xnox | Riddell: there is xubuntu on the report, but I don't see kubuntu =( http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html | 08:56 |
xnox | Riddell: no, there is kubuntu with 4 bugs on that report | 08:56 |
Riddell | xnox: I suspect that report only lists packages which are KDE only, so it doesn't list e.g. ubiquity kde bugs | 09:08 |
xnox | Riddell: yeah. maybe you should ask for 'kubuntu' tag added to that list? currently it's 'packageset' + series quantal | 09:10 |
kubotu | ::qt-bugs:: [1034986] vlc crashed with SIGABRT in __assert_fail_base() @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1034986 (by Ricardo J. Moreira Teixeira) | 09:46 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1034986 in qt4-x11 (Ubuntu) "vlc crashed with SIGABRT in __assert_fail_base()" [Medium,Confirmed] | 09:47 |
shadeslayer | apachelogger: can you upload https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/experimental/+files/kdevelop-custom-buildsystem_1.2.2-0ubuntu1.dsc | 11:10 |
shadeslayer | surprisingly, it's not in the kubuntu packageset | 11:11 |
shadeslayer | everything else has been uploaded | 11:11 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: please send mail to cj | 11:12 |
shadeslayer | aye, doing that | 11:12 |
shadeslayer | we also don't have ktp in the packageset right? | 11:13 |
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Riddell | shadeslayer: how did 4.9.1 backports get on? | 11:50 |
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Quintasan | Riddell: Meeting today? | 12:07 |
agateau_ | Riddell: I know the developer of kded-appmenu, he contributed to dbusmenu-qt and plasma-widget-menubar. Actually I asked him to take over maintenance of the applet | 12:07 |
Quintasan | That would be 20:00 here | 12:09 |
Quintasan | Hmm, more than fine | 12:09 |
Riddell | agateau_: why does it need a kded? | 12:10 |
Riddell | Quintasan: yes if anyone can come | 12:11 |
Riddell | JontheEchidna, apachelogger: you'll be there? | 12:11 |
Quintasan | Well, I'm going to the doctor this evening but I'll be able to make it | 12:11 |
agateau_ | Riddell: the kded runs the registrar, which hold the association between window ids and dbusmenu menubar | 12:12 |
agateau_ | Riddell: you can then have multiple applications ask the kded to render the menubar | 12:12 |
agateau_ | Riddell: this is necessary for example on a dual screen setup to have one menubar applet per screen | 12:12 |
Riddell | aah | 12:12 |
agateau_ | Right now the applet also acts as a registrar, which makes it impossible to run more than one | 12:13 |
agateau_ | or run it with oxygen-appmenu | 12:13 |
Riddell | agateau_: so should we be replacing plasma-widget-menubar with kded-appmenu | 12:17 |
Riddell | ? | 12:17 |
agateau_ | Riddell: I just looked at the source code, and I don't see a copy of the applet there, you want to check with Cédric I think | 12:21 |
agateau_ | Riddell: but in the long run, it should replace plasma-widget-menubar yes | 12:22 |
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kubotu | ::workspace-bugs:: [1039582] DPMSControl, a non existent action on Kubuntu on VMWare guest @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1039582 (by Marco Parillo) | 13:03 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1039582 in kde-workspace (Ubuntu) "DPMSControl, a non existent action on Kubuntu on VMWare guest" [Undecided,Fix released] | 13:03 |
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BluesKaj_ | Hey all | 13:15 |
Riddell | hola | 13:15 |
Riddell | Mamarok: who's after taglib 1.8? it'll need a feature freeze exception so I'll need to find reasons | 13:16 |
Mamarok | Amarok, dragonplayer, every application that uses tagged files | 13:17 |
Mamarok | and of cours tagging solutions like kid3 and easytag | 13:18 |
Riddell | Mamarok: sure but I think I need someone who can highlight the useful features and bugfixes | 13:20 |
Mamarok | well, now one can write id3v2.3 tags, that support didn't exist previously, also the mp4 and asf support is there by default. APE version 2 is also supported now | 13:21 |
Mamarok | and quite a few bug fixes that were annoying us :) | 13:22 |
Riddell | Mamarok: who's us? amarok? | 13:23 |
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Mamarok | Amarok and dragonplayer, mostly, but the id3v2.3 tag writing is also sueful for every other software out there, inclusing VLC and the mass taggers | 13:24 |
Mamarok | useful* | 13:24 |
Mamarok | Riddell: we also need it to support more music file types: mod, s3m, it and xm in particular | 13:38 |
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Riddell | Mamarok: hmm the faffy bit is there's a second build of taglib in the package "rusxmms" for cyrillic uses and that's a nasty patch to port | 13:46 |
Riddell | I've no idea why cyrillic needs a special build | 13:46 |
Mamarok | no idea | 13:47 |
Mamarok | but who uses xmms anyway... | 13:47 |
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Riddell | Mamarok: well it's not for xmms it's a variant of the library to read tags in non-unicode cyrillic | 14:11 |
Riddell | really it's a bit weird this being a patch in a distro package | 14:12 |
Riddell | and a whole second build of the library. ugly | 14:12 |
Riddell | xnox, dpm: you guys use cyrillic? got an opinion on the value of tablib-rusxmms? | 14:18 |
xnox | hmm?! | 14:18 |
dpm | Riddell, hm, unfortunately not. You might want to try with danilo, he does use cyrillic | 14:18 |
xnox | i use cyrillic, but what's the context? | 14:18 |
Riddell | xnox: seems taglib has a second build as part of its packaging tablib-rusxmms | 14:19 |
Riddell | for use in mp3 files using non-unicode cyrillic | 14:19 |
Riddell | debian added it http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=384573 | 14:19 |
ubottu | Debian bug 384573 in libtag1c2a "Russian id3 tags problem" [Normal,Fixed] | 14:19 |
Riddell | but I don't know if I can port the patch to taglib 1.8 which is now being requested | 14:19 |
Riddell | I wonder if it gets used still | 14:20 |
xnox | not surprised.... hardly any russian songs use any sensible encoding, i.e. they mostly use anything but unicode | 14:20 |
* xnox gave up that battle years ago all my song tags are jiberrish | 14:20 | |
xnox | I did retag them onces into $encoding, but the next player used $otherencoding so I gave up | 14:21 |
xnox | Riddell: it would be lovely to have that patch, maybe my songs will finally work! | 14:22 |
Riddell | xnox: well it's in | 14:23 |
Riddell | try installing libtag1-rusxmms | 14:23 |
Riddell | to replace -vanilla | 14:24 |
xnox | ok... but I don't use xmms anymore | 14:24 |
xnox | or does that replace libtag itself? | 14:24 |
Riddell | no, it just comes from a project called rusxmms | 14:25 |
Riddell | it replaces libtag | 14:25 |
Riddell | I'll try porting the patch | 14:27 |
Riddell | pkgkde-symbolshelper seems to have lost its mojo, the update to attica didn't work on platforms other than those I've built it on already and applied the build log | 15:03 |
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Riddell | Mamarok: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/taglib/+bug/1050463 for you, you may want to add any other information you think will persuade the release team | 15:15 |
ubottu | Launchpad bug 1050463 in taglib (Ubuntu Quantal) "FFe update to 1.8" [Undecided,New] | 15:15 |
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yofel | evening | 16:49 |
yofel | Riddell: thanks for the blueprint, I'll probably read that sometime over the weekend | 16:51 |
shadeslayer | meeting in a hour right ? | 16:52 |
tsimpson | ~1 hour 5 minutes | 16:55 |
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Riddell | 1 minutes to kubuntu-meeting in #ubuntu-meeting | 18:00 |
Riddell | apachelogger: ping? | 18:01 |
Riddell | darkwing_: ping? | 18:01 |
Riddell | jussi01-nom: ping? | 18:01 |
apachelogger | pong | 18:02 |
Riddell | apachelogger: meeting! | 18:02 |
* apachelogger puts on some pants | 18:02 | |
Riddell | in #kubuntu-meeting | 18:02 |
Riddell | er | 18:02 |
Riddell | in #ubuntu-meeting | 18:02 |
apachelogger | we should totally decide where to do meetings :P | 18:03 |
Riddell | SteveRiley: meeting? | 18:29 |
tsdgeos | are you guys rebuilding kdelibs? the new attica makes all apps crash | 18:30 |
yofel | that should not happen... | 18:31 |
tsdgeos | agreed | 18:32 |
tsdgeos | crashing is bad :D | 18:33 |
CIA-12 | [lp:~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/kde-wallpapers] Philip Muškovac * 44 * debian/changelog release 4:4.9.1-0ubuntu1 | 18:34 |
yofel | wasn't committed | 18:34 |
shadeslayer | new attica got uploaded? | 18:41 |
tsdgeos | yes | 18:41 |
tsdgeos | and now my system has a mixture of 0.3 and 0.4 | 18:42 |
tsdgeos | and obviously things don't really play well with eachother | 18:42 |
yofel | well, 0.3 and 0.4 have a different ABI and SONAME - so by definition nothing should break. But KDE does weird things with libs... | 18:44 |
tsdgeos | yeah well | 18:45 |
tsdgeos | i can tell you why it crashes | 18:45 |
tsdgeos | it's not KDE fault | 18:45 |
Riddell | it's still compiling | 18:46 |
Riddell | I should have used -proposed for it | 18:46 |
tsdgeos | Riddell: ok, it's fine, i just wanted to know if it was being taken care of or not | 18:46 |
tsdgeos | i can live with crashing about dialogs for a few days | 18:47 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: http://people.ubuntu.com/~apachelogger/screencasts/kmix-flick.mkv | 18:48 |
apachelogger | do you get that when quickly changing tracks in amarok? | 18:48 |
shadeslayer | aye, I've seen that happen before | 18:49 |
shadeslayer | however, I don't use amarok | 18:49 |
shadeslayer | Tomhawk :) | 18:49 |
apachelogger | same thing | 18:52 |
apachelogger | it's caused by pulse streams chagning | 18:52 |
apachelogger | d__ed: btw any additional feedback on ktp from us asking people to test? | 18:54 |
* apachelogger thinks somehow all the wrong people were reached and feedback was mediocre | 18:54 | |
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yofel | as for kde-wallpapers. Including all resolutions of Ariya would be roughly +28MB, but I would still give it a try | 19:14 |
apachelogger | yofel: try png compression techniques | 19:17 |
apachelogger | might squeeze out a bit | 19:17 |
yofel | hm, the archive does run optipng over it | 19:18 |
* yofel tries | 19:18 | |
Quintasan | afiestas: #ubuntu-meeting | 19:22 |
yofel | apachelogger: saves about 1MB as most of the images are already optimized | 19:36 |
apachelogger | yofel: that's something | 19:54 |
ScottK | Meeting seemed to go well enough. | 22:23 |
apachelogger | also as promised I broke kmix https://projects.kde.org/projects/kde/kdemultimedia/kmix/repository/revisions/d1344b63ded3b53dff44794f8e17e67ca530de9e | 22:43 |
apachelogger | shadeslayer: we maybe should backport that | 22:44 |
apachelogger | the issue is rather ewww on various levels | 22:44 |
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