[06:46] <dholbach> good morning
[07:06] <dpm> good morning all
[07:26] <bkerensa> Gangnam Style
[07:43] <bkerensa> dholbach: will#ubuntu-packaging be the UbuLive channel?
[07:50] <bkerensa> popey I registered #ubuntuonair which went empty after the last show
[07:50] <bkerensa> added you/jcastro/Josee
[07:51] <popey> yeah, i recall a conversation with jcastro about whether we needed more channels
[07:51] <popey> or just re-use existing ones
[07:51]  * popey shrugs
[07:52] <bkerensa> popey: the only benefit I see is if we hop onto a channel that has a topic we interrupt the flow of discussion
[07:52] <popey> yeah, but the downside is an empty channel
[07:52] <bkerensa> :)
[07:52] <popey> which is what happened with #ubuntuonair
[07:52] <popey> people turned up and asked questions and nobody replied
[07:52]  * bkerensa is now idling it
[07:52] <bkerensa> :D
[08:39] <inetpro> bkerensa: nice idea
[08:40] <inetpro> and dholbach, that looks like a very nice session
[08:43] <czajkowski> this day is not off to a good start
[08:43] <czajkowski> *yawns*
[08:47] <bkerensa> :(
[08:47] <bkerensa> czajkowski: hope it gets better
[08:49] <czajkowski> me too
[08:49] <czajkowski> and bugger I thought it was Friday and all
[08:52] <bkerensa> =/
[08:52] <bkerensa> I wish it was
[08:53] <bkerensa> czajkowski: here I am 2am watching dholbach do a packaging tut
[08:53] <bkerensa> :D
[09:15] <dholbach> thanks inetpro and bkerensa
[09:16] <dholbach> popey, sorry, I had no idea about the channel
[09:16] <dholbach> I'll use it next time
[09:16] <popey> dholbach, meh :)
[09:16] <popey> we already have too many channels
[09:17] <dholbach> ?
[09:17] <dholbach> should I use it? or shouldn't I?
[09:17] <dholbach> #ubuntuonair
[09:17] <bkerensa> tis registered
[09:17] <bkerensa> two people idling
[09:17] <bkerensa> :D
[09:18] <dholbach> next time, promise
[09:18] <inetpro> popey: I agree, but I think it does make sense to have a dedicated channel for the purpose
[09:18] <bkerensa> yeah
[09:19] <bkerensa> some people were trying to get help in -packaging
[09:19] <bkerensa> had it been a bigger turnout maybe people would have got confused
[09:19] <bkerensa> :D
[09:20] <czajkowski> or there are more peple there with experience
[09:20] <czajkowski> we have too many places to send people
[09:20] <czajkowski> it was confusing for UGJ
[09:22] <dholbach> I'll use #ubuntuonair the next time
[09:22] <dholbach> that way we can also leave the chat widget in there all the time always pointing to the same place
[10:32] <czajkowski> dholbach: care to help a user out https://answers.launchpad.net/launchpad/+question/208457
[10:38] <dholbach> he just asks if anybody has any idea about this error message:
[10:39] <dholbach> build/buildd/linux-2.6.32/drivers/hid/usbhid/hid-core.c: can't reset device, 0000:00:10.3-3.2/input0, status -71
[10:39] <czajkowski> ahh ohk
[10:39] <dholbach> it could be his usb device being broken, but it could also be a kernel problem
[10:39] <dholbach> maybe he can test the device on another machine or under windows and see if it works there
[10:39] <dholbach> I can reply
[10:40] <czajkowski> dholbach: thank you
[11:42] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach, bkerensa: we already had #ubuntu-on-air for those cases
[11:43] <JoseeAntonioR> it's on my announcement
[11:47] <JoseeAntonioR> dholbach: you've got ubuntuonair google's account credentials in case you want to use it, all videos will be kept in youtube.com/ubuntuonair
[11:51] <dholbach> JoseeAntonioR, ah, I should've logged into google+ with that account as well
[11:51] <dholbach> sorry
[11:51]  * dholbach totally messed up :)
[11:52] <dholbach> alright, got to take the dog for a walk
[11:52] <dholbach> see you in a bit
[13:55] <jcastro> bkerensa, thanks for the review!
[13:55] <jcastro> I will make sure to use your amazon refer code of course.
[13:56] <jcastro> also, maybe a price/performance ratio would help?
[13:56] <jcastro> like, is the sylvania worth the extra 14 bucks per bulb ...
[15:04] <jcastro> JoseeAntonioR, hey, what time UTC on the 24th?
[15:47] <jcastro1> test
[15:48] <czajkowski> one jcastro1 is more than enough :p
[15:48] <jcastro> I'll get rid of him soon
[15:48] <jcastro> he's a punk anyway
[15:51] <czajkowski> heh
[16:08] <czajkowski> dpm: you might try now as there are more LP devs around to give you a hand wit the script in case you didnt have any luck this morning, it's mostly state side we have devs free atm
[16:32] <dpm> czajkowski, cool thanks :) Here I go with my third try...
[16:48] <czajkowski> dpm: progress :)
[16:49] <dpm> yeah, I'm fine with sending an e-mail to lp-dev, but if I can sort it out on IRC the better, as I unsubscribed from l-d a long long time ago
[16:51] <czajkowski> ah I see
[16:51] <czajkowski> it is low traffic
[17:28] <dholbach> alright my friends - have a great rest of your day - see you tomorrow
[18:04] <bkerensa> jcastro: LOL :) In reality the LightKiwi is the best it uses 6-watts
[18:04] <bkerensa> jcastro: also Josh P who works at Canonical left some feedback on his LED experience
[18:54] <pleia2> jono: thanks for sending the Canonical guys our way last night, we had fun :)
[18:54] <jono> pleia2, np :-)
[18:54] <jono> wish I could be there, I am in Portland right now
[18:54] <jono> pleia2, who showed up?
[18:55] <pleia2> kyle... and 3 other guys
[18:55] <jono> pleia2, cool
[18:55] <jono> I am pleased they showed up
[19:00] <bkerensa> jono: you enjoying the beautiful sun?
[19:00] <bkerensa> :)
[19:01] <jono> bkerensa, hah, yeah right
[19:01] <jono> I am in a room with no windows
[19:01] <bkerensa> jono: huh are you guys at OSU's office downtown?
[19:01] <bkerensa> lol
[19:01] <jono> bkerensa, at the Hilton
[19:01] <bkerensa> I know they do the knitting circle there
[19:01] <jono> underground
[19:01] <bkerensa> ah
[19:01] <bkerensa> thats not fun
[19:01] <jono> from 8pm until 6.30pm every day
[19:02] <bkerensa> jono: do all the managers have to be there even the locals?
[19:02] <bkerensa> :D
[19:03] <jono> bkerensa, yes
[19:03] <jono> we are all here
[19:03] <bkerensa> heh :)
[19:04] <jcastro_> pleia2, creepy, I was just about to mail that guy wrt. the openid plugin
[19:07] <balloons> anyone around running quantal and have wine installed and 5 mins to confirm something for me?
[19:09] <pleia2> jcastro :)
[19:10] <bkerensa> jono: if you get a chance check out Lucky Lab before you leave town... slangasek knows the spot
[19:11] <jono> bkerensa, cool :-)
[19:11] <jono> probably not going to get a chance, I fly out tomorrow
[19:11] <bkerensa> its where all the hackers go to beer
[19:11] <bkerensa> oh
[19:11] <jono> ahhh cool
[19:11] <bkerensa> like PuppetLabs has hack nights there and the Debian Beering is there :)
[19:14] <jcastro_> jono, hmm, for some reason I still can't propose things onto your calendar
[19:14] <jono> jcastro you should be able to
[19:14] <bkerensa> tungle.me FTW
[19:17] <jcastro_> jono, also, it's your birthday on monday isn't it?
[19:18] <jono> jcastro yep
[19:18] <jono> 33 years young :-)
[19:18] <jcastro_> woo, that means it's my canonical birthday
[19:18] <jono> :-)
[19:18] <jcastro_> I started, _5 years ago_ on your birthday
[19:18] <jono> :-)
[19:18] <jcastro_> and I was ... 33.
[19:18] <jcastro_> look at that
[19:18] <balloons> jcastro_, lol
[19:19] <jcastro_> that's just creepy
[19:19] <balloons> that's pretty interesting annivesary
[19:19] <pleia2> jcastro should jump out of a cake
[19:19] <jcastro_> I want to go to chuck e. cheeses
[19:19] <pleia2> haha
[19:20] <cjohnston> jcastro_: take my kids
[19:29] <jcastro_> technoviking, heya
[19:29] <jcastro_> speaking of the forums
[19:30] <jcastro_> how does tapatalk support work?
[19:30] <jcastro_> is that something we turn on someplace?
[19:38] <balloons> ohh tapatalk!
[19:39] <balloons> you just need the plugin jcastro_
[19:39] <jcastro_> oh ok
[19:39] <jcastro_> so we can just add that then
[19:40] <balloons> http://www.tapatalk.com/activate_tapatalk.php?plugin=vbulletin
[19:40] <balloons> they even have plugins for vb3 ;-)
[20:06] <bkerensa> jcastro: VB5 is now out :) btw VB4 has a native mobile suite
[20:12] <czajkowski> bkerensa: any idea why I'd get
[20:12] <czajkowski> juju: error: argument --log-file/-l: invalid FileType('a') value: <open file '<stderr>', mode 'w' at 0x7f1905069270>
[20:12] <czajkowski> when I went juju bootstrap
[20:12] <bkerensa> what charm?
[20:13] <czajkowski> I've not gto as far as charms
[20:13] <czajkowski> I'm only on set up
[20:13] <czajkowski> https://juju.ubuntu.com/docs/getting-started.html
[20:13] <czajkowski> I'm only at configuration
[20:14] <bkerensa> czajkowski: https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1050169
[20:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1050169 in juju "bootstrap insists on a logfile (dup-of: 1048864)" [Undecided,New]
[20:14] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1048864 in juju "Latest python in quantal breaks juju" [Critical,Triaged]
[20:14] <bkerensa> I think the last comment in that bug will help
[20:15] <bkerensa> for some reason when it is handling logs it is erroring
[20:15] <czajkowski> cheers
[20:15] <czajkowski> I've a long night ahead of me at this rate
[20:15] <czajkowski> apt get install juju also doesnt seem to work on 12.10
[20:15] <jcastro_> it's broken
[20:15] <jcastro_> python stuff
[20:15] <bkerensa> wait
[20:15]  * jcastro_ makes explosion sounds
[20:15] <bkerensa> quantal?
[20:15] <czajkowski> https://bugs.launchpad.net/juju/+bug/1050114
[20:15] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1050114 in juju "juju in quantal package has unmet dependancies" [Undecided,New]
[20:15] <bkerensa> czajkowski: are you on quantal?
[20:15] <bkerensa> :D
[20:15] <czajkowski> yes
[20:15] <czajkowski> bleeding edge
[20:15] <bkerensa> bingo
[20:15] <czajkowski> bleeding nutter
[20:16] <bkerensa> so your stuck until the depends in juju are sorted
[20:16] <jcastro_> yep
[20:20] <czajkowski> whch doesnt help me testing maas
[20:20] <czajkowski> hmmm
[20:20] <czajkowski> right off to poke people
[20:20] <bkerensa> :D
[20:20] <czajkowski> I'll eventually get EOD today at some point
[20:20] <czajkowski> Thursday are a very long day for me
[20:22] <jcastro_> "python fix is underway upstream, should land today I think"
[20:22] <jcastro_> from clint czajkowski ^^^
[20:22] <jcastro_> so ... soon!
[20:22] <czajkowski> jcastro_: ah cheers thanks
[20:23] <czajkowski> shal pass that onto Diogo
[20:27] <bkerensa> jcastro: http://i.imgur.com/70I16.jpg <-- when juju get one of these?
[20:27] <bkerensa> :D
[20:29] <jcastro_> bkerensa, I have way uglier: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/view/Charms/view/Charms-Precise/view/ec2/
[20:31] <bkerensa> jcastro: http://i.imgur.com/sMJ5P.jpg <-- Kegbot
[20:31] <marcoceppi> bkerensa: `juju status`
[20:32] <marcoceppi> :)
[20:32] <bkerensa> ;p
[20:32] <bkerensa> http://kegbot.org/
[20:32] <bkerensa> :D
[20:39] <marcoceppi> Okay, time to go home and see how well Subway works for checking messages later
[20:42] <bkerensa> lol
[20:44] <balloons> AlanBell, do you use visual alerts? do they work for you in precise? I can't seemingly get them to do anything in quantal or precise
[20:44] <AlanBell> it is a pretty weak effect
[20:45] <AlanBell> it kind of varies the dark greyness of the title bar of the active window slightly
[20:45] <AlanBell> I wanted to plug it into a full screen compiz screen wobble or something
[20:45] <balloons> how about the beep when caps or num lock is used?
[20:46] <balloons> I'm not seeing the effects of etheir
[20:46] <AlanBell> actually I am not seeing any effect now
[20:46] <AlanBell> flash the entire screen never worked
[20:46] <AlanBell> well not since before unity
[20:47] <AlanBell> flash the window title used to work but is almost useless
[20:47] <balloons> ahh.. are there open bugs on everything mentioned?
[20:47] <AlanBell> bug 1016683
[20:48] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1016683 in gnome-control-center "universal access visual alert not working" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1016683
[20:48] <balloons> I don't want to duplicate.. but as far as I can tell, none of what we're talking about is working
[20:49] <AlanBell> bug 272749
[20:49] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 272749 in vte "Set window manager "URGENT" hint on bell." [Medium,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/272749
[20:49] <AlanBell> that might be a decentish solution
[20:50] <balloons> I'm going to open a new bug for the beep on num lock and caps lock
[20:51] <balloons> all I see is this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/116296
[20:51] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 116296 in gnome-control-center "No beep on keystroke when using accessibilty features" [Low,Triaged]
[20:51] <AlanBell> yes, I wasn't aware of that one, never tried it
[20:53] <balloons> just doing the pass through of accessibility features as usual
[20:53] <balloons> :-)
[20:53] <AlanBell> I have some more bugs to file I think, I went through the installer the other day
[20:54] <balloons> it's stablish now.. as far as feature changes
[20:54] <balloons> I've been going through and updating the tests to reflect the changes
[20:54] <AlanBell> the dash doesn't work at the moment is kind of a big one
[20:54] <czajkowski> AlanBell: xnox in -uk works on the installer
[20:55] <AlanBell> oh, cool
[20:55] <balloons> yes, we made him mr. fixit today
[20:57] <czajkowski> hehe
[20:57] <czajkowski> we had it at the UGJ at the weekend so pointed out stuff annoying us
[20:58] <balloons> wonderful.. he's been great thus far
[20:58] <balloons> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-control-center/+bug/1050624
[20:58] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 1050624 in gnome-control-center "Universal Access 'beep on caps lock or num lock' doesn't beep" [Undecided,New]
[20:58] <balloons> at least it's out there now AlanBell
[20:58] <AlanBell> cool, thanks balloons
[20:59] <balloons> bug #7 today for me.. wow.. I think that might be a record
[20:59] <ubot2> Launchpad bug 7 in launchpad "Need help for novice translators" [High,Fix released] https://launchpad.net/bugs/7
[20:59]  * balloons notes he hasn't been trying to find bugs!
[20:59] <czajkowski> balloons: I filed a lot at the weekend
[21:00] <czajkowski> upgrade from 12.04->12.10 was not smooth or nice
[21:01] <balloons> really czajkowski ?
[21:01] <balloons> I tried several times to break it.. couldn't do it suprisingly
[21:01] <balloons> I even did a lucid->quantal install ;-)
[21:01] <czajkowski> balloons: yeah I lost my window management as did others
[21:01] <balloons> double upgrade
[21:02] <czajkowski> had to go to tty1 and do an output to some log so I could follow the upgrade
[21:02] <czajkowski> then when it did upgrade and restart it just kept crashing with compiz, telepathy and gwibber
[21:19] <balloons> hmm
[21:19] <balloons> when you upgraded, where you running unity?
[21:19] <czajkowski> balloons: yup was running 12.04
[21:20] <czajkowski> I wasnt the only one who lost their window management either
[21:20] <czajkowski> one of the other guys did also
[21:20] <balloons> hmm.. perhaps something new has emerged
[21:20] <balloons> metacity got dropped
[21:20] <czajkowski> he did his on the monday I did mine onthe saturday
[21:20] <balloons> when it was removed, you likely lost window management
[21:21] <balloons> did a unity --reset after upgrade fix things?
[21:21] <czajkowski> nope
[21:21] <czajkowski> couldnt also get a hold of anything to do anything for abotue rhalf hr of updates
[21:21] <czajkowski> then I eventualy got to alt f4 some other windows when I came out of tty1 and back to desktop
[21:21] <czajkowski> so I could in fact go through the rest of the install
[22:20] <jcastro_> akgraner, this girl on The Voice did "Hallelujah". Made me think of that UDS where we were all crying and stuff
[23:39] <JoseeAntonioR> jcastro: does sometime between 18:30 and 19 works for you?
[23:39]  * JoseeAntonioR has got a visa interview that day
[23:42] <JoseeAntonioR> cjohnston: blueprints, tracks and such things are not loaded yet, right?
[23:42] <cjohnston> tracks arent
[23:43] <cjohnston> after tracks and rooms get entered, other things will happen on summit, until then, summit is stuck
[23:43] <JoseeAntonioR> anything I can help with?
[23:44] <cjohnston> magically create data
[23:45] <JoseeAntonioR> if magically is "get data from somewhere and re-write it", then I may be able to help, otherwise not :)
[23:46] <cjohnston> the data exists, somewhere, alteast the room part, i assume.. i just dont have it