=== m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [03:30] You know, it'd be nice if uoa didn't drop the google credentials at least once a day. === m_conley is now known as m_conley_away [05:33] good morning [05:34] morning === LLStarks is now known as erappleman [06:27] bryceh: hey, should we descope https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-bugs-bugs-bugs? [06:33] TheMuso: hey [06:33] TheMuso: should we postponed your WI on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-xorg-lts-updates? [06:36] didrocks: Yeah, the alsa guys are doing their upmost to keep kernel compatibility so I don't think it will bite us. I'll take care of it. [06:40] TheMuso: thanks [06:45] TheMuso: and for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-accessibility-team-testing ? [06:56] pitti: good morning, did you see my question from yesterday if lp:~mvo/aptdaemon/support-for-whitelisted-repositories is ok now or if you would like me to tweak/adjust some more? [06:56] (happy to do that if needed) [06:57] didrocks: Hi :) Unfortunately 12.10 still suffers from gfx freezes, where you still can move the mousepointer and stuff continues to run in the background, but the rest of the graphics are stuck and all you can do is reboot to fix it. The freezes get triggered by high disk activity like compiling larger projects or upgrading the system and make 12.10 unusable for real work at the moment :-( [06:58] Is this problem already being worked on ? [06:58] MCR1: not that I know of, nor known apart from you. Did you go to #ubuntu-x? [06:59] didrocks: Yes, they were very supportive and I've upgraded mesa and libdrm, but it did not fix it... [06:59] Bonjour [07:00] guten morgen pitti [07:00] ...click click clik goes the hard drive... [07:00] MCR1: I think they are your best bet to debug it or ask on #ubuntu-unity [07:00] mvo: yes, I'm ok with it, I set it to "approved"; thanks! [07:01] pitti: thanks! [07:01] hm, no xnox to respond to [07:01] didrocks: bonjour! bonne anniversaire! [07:01] * pitti hugs didrocks [07:01] didrocks: oh? congrats from me as well :) [07:03] merci pitti :) [07:03] * didrocks hugs pitti [07:03] heh, thanks mvo! [07:03] so, that's how it feels to start at 9 o'clock [07:03] pitti: enjoyed it? [07:04] didrocks: heh, we went to bed at 1:30 only [07:04] we went to Munich for the Marina and the diamonds and Coldplay concert [07:04] awesome show, 70.000 people, in the Olympia park [07:06] waow, quite big :) [07:07] so yeah, 1:30 should be quite late for you two :) [07:10] bryceh: same question for https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-libxrandr-utils [07:11] didrocks, happy birthday dude! [07:12] thanks larsu :-) [07:12] * didrocks just avoided the big 30 by 1 year, *phew*, not sure I'll be that lucky next year :) [07:13] * larsu did the same this year. Hoping to repeat that next year ;) [07:13] heh :) [07:13] young folks... [07:14] didrocks: tu es jeune! [07:14] didrocks: Happy birthday! [07:14] pitti: je pense que les de 20 ans me trouveraient pourtant vieux! Ce n'est qu'une question de point de vue :) [07:14] RAOF: thanks ;) [07:15] * MCR1 is also singing Happy Birthday !!! [07:16] didrocks: hm, even google translate gives up on your first sentence :( [07:16] MCR1: I hope today everyone will be kind then and it will be a nice, quiet one :-) [07:16] * MCR1 will stop complaining about anything today... [07:16] pitti: maybe because I missed "jeunes" between "les" and "de 20" [07:16] :) [07:16] MCR1: thanks! ;) [07:17] didrocks: aah! [07:17] Ubuntu is awesome - and it would be much less awesome without didrocks 8-) [07:18] heh, that's kind :) [07:18] chrisccoulson: hey, should we postpone some WI on https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-p-thunderbird-enhancements? (apart from the chat one, please remove it! remove it! remove it!) [07:19] I cannot find any more bugs today - they all seem gone (but I cannot promise that they won't come back) ! [07:19] MCR1: you mean, we can stop launhcpad? :) [07:19] launchpad* [07:19] close the bugtracker ! [07:19] heh [07:19] hehe === JanC is now known as Guest57134 === larsu is now known as Guest95550 [07:24] and since this is possibly nautilus problem instead of compiz, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/1050237 [07:24] Launchpad bug 1050237 in compiz "No functional desktop session if ubuntu-default-settings overrides are not available" [Undecided,New] [07:25] Mirv: ah, I know what this is === Guest95550 is now known as larsu [07:26] Mirv: basically, nothing is drawing the background [07:26] something seemingly is preventing nautilus from launching [07:26] but it's not obvious, what [07:26] Mirv: not, the option to tell nautilus "please draw the background" is a distro override [07:26] in a gnome-shell session, it's gnome-shell itself which is dealing with it [07:27] didrocks: ok! you can probably mangle the bug report to be more correct? [07:27] yeah [07:28] but I don't think it's important enough or even fixable properly and still enabling other desktop flavors [07:35] RAOF: thx for fixing colord bug :) [07:35] dupondje: I'm still hopeful that I've just fixed *all* the colord bugs on Launchpad :) [07:36] I pray with you ;) [07:37] RAOF: you think you fixed the 2 remaining ones on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/rls-mgr/rls-q-tracking-bug-tasks.html [07:37] RAOF: that I added years*hem*hours*hem*minutes ago? ;) [07:38] I'm slightly hopeful that not corrupting libdbus structures might fix unrelated things :) [07:55] great, libreoffice does not have any menu in gnome-shell :( [07:55] anyone knows a workaround? [07:57] xclaesse: there is a bug about that, I saw some glib work regarding that (it's supposed to work with gtk that is in this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-desktop/+archive/ppa) [07:57] xclaesse: but untested yet TBH (at least, by myself) [07:57] ok, good to know it's being worked on :) [07:57] thx [07:58] I need OOo once a year maybe, and it happens when it's broken :( [07:58] xclaesse: you are in quantal, right? [07:58] yep [07:59] yeah, well, you know what we tell about unstable version :) (but I really hope some day that some uploads with regression will really be restrained) === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [08:39] didrocks, okay [08:41] thanks bryceh :) [09:20] soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo [09:20] seeding ubuntu-default-settings broke the chinese images [09:20] because ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn Provides and Conflicts ubuntu-default-settings [09:33] pitti: ^ don't suppose you know why it does this (the Provides and Conflicts)? [09:34] Laney: yes, I do; you can only ever have one ubuntu-defaults-* [09:34] as they divert files, set home page, etc. [09:35] it's not defined what should happen if two packages want to set the browser homepage or background image [09:35] seems ubuntu-default-settings was a bad choice of name for the overrides then? [09:35] yes, I think so [09:35] unless it actually uses ubuntu-defaults-builder, that is [09:35] no it just ships gsettings overrides AFAIK [09:35] if it does, then all existing loco derivatives wuold need to copy ubuntu-default-settings [09:35] (which would be bad) [09:36] we should rather rename it [09:36] ubuntu-gsettings-defaults or so? [09:37] maybe it will be more generic than gsettings in the future? [09:38] why not just ubuntu-settings? [09:39] not fussed [09:40] so, if I version the Breaks/Replaces it shouldn't interfere with the existing use of ubuntu-default-settings, right? [09:41] Laney: how do you mean? in all existing ubuntu-defaults-{zh,it,ca,...} packages out there? [09:41] I mean it's pure virtual [09:41] (and don't forget about -fr :)) [09:42] so it won't Break those out of users' systems [09:42] Laney: oh, you mean ubuntu-defaults B/R: ubuntu-default-settings? [09:42] right [09:43] the standard rename dance [09:43] a >= B/C ought to work, yes [09:43] perhaps B/C: u-d-s (>= 12.10)? [09:43] it's only intra-quantal anyway [09:44] Laney: tell me if you need help for any newing/promotion and such [09:44] ITYM <=? [09:44] Laney: no, I mean >=; with <= wouldn't that conflict to e. g. ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn as well? [09:45] (assuming that their Provides: counts as somethign as "0") [09:45] Laney: I don't know what happens in this case [09:45] but I guess it's moot [09:45] no, I think the version would mean that the Provides aren't matched at all [09:45] I'll check [09:45] Laney: I can't say for sure; hence I suggested >= [10:39] hey all, does anyone know where the "Suspend" string in indicator-session comes from in quantal? I'm trying to figure out whether it is not yet translated or non-translatable [10:42] dpm: src/session-menu-mgr.c: mi = mgr->suspend_mi = mi_new ("Suspend"); [10:42] ? [10:43] seems it's not translatable, yeah [10:43] argh, untranslatable :( [10:43] dpm: can get it merged today and upload with the fix [10:43] * dpm hugs didrocks [10:43] you rock [10:43] * didrocks hugs dpm back === doko_ is now known as doko [10:48] dpm: seems there were no bug for that? [10:48] don't need one, you just send that to the ML? [10:49] didrocks, yeah, that sounds good to me (ping me when the upload is done and I e-mail translators). But I'm also happy to file a bug if you need it [10:50] dpm: ping (uploaded)! :) [10:50] :-) [10:51] Bah. Could Ken please add a call to dbus_threads_init_default() early in gwibber-service, so it doesn't crash daily in libdbus? [10:52] (Alternately, could gdbus please not break previously working applications by calling dbus on a thread) [10:52] RAOF: this is to remove your twitter addition :) [10:53] * RAOF → sleep [11:16] chrisccoulson: hey, btw, did you see my question about the WI/blueprints this morning? [11:17] didrocks, yeah, will take a look in a bit [11:17] thanks :) === broder_ is now known as broder === Pici` is now known as Pici [11:47] hey didrocks, what was the source package you did the upload for when you fixed the "Suspend" string? [11:48] dpm: indicator-session [11:48] cool, thanks [11:50] yw :) [11:51] larsu: hey, btw a stupid MR for you: https://code.launchpad.net/~didrocks/indicator-session/suspend-translate/+merge/124153 [11:52] didrocks, just approved it. Let's see if autolanding works for a change... [11:53] larsu: is it that bad? [11:53] larsu: mmrazik wants to extend it for unity to replace my merger, if it doesn't work and doesn't handle dependency as unity-merger does, I start to be afraid :) [11:53] didrocks, it works most of the time === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:54] so fine :) [11:54] or rather "ok" [11:54] that's the problem though: if I can't rely on it working, I have to keep thinking about it [11:54] and check on it later [11:54] yeah, I imagine [11:54] oh well, it's definitely getting better :) [11:55] * didrocks still hugs his unity-merger written in a day and half and which has merged 2500+ branches [11:55] nice [11:58] good morning! [12:13] dobey: you once maintained evolution-webcal. do you still do? [12:13] it's in a major need of some lovin' [12:17] didrocks: hey, I think I may have another deletion for you [12:17] didrocks, ha, autolanding did fail, but it was my fault: no commit message. I'll just merge it manually === strycore_ is now known as strycore [12:31] I've noticed that Alt+PrintScreen to do a screen capture of the active window no longer works in quantal. Does anyone have any ideas against which package this should be reported? === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [12:33] dpm: my first guess would be compiz, it could be catching that particular key combination === micahg_ is now known as micahg [12:42] larsu: ah, sorry, was my fault for no commit message, didn't know it had the same requirement :) [12:42] larsu: already backport in the package FYI [12:56] * didrocks flushes [12:56] cyphermox: can you make evolution conflicting it? (and remove the recommends/deps) [12:57] cyphermox: I'll do it, no worry [12:57] sure [12:57] oh ok [12:57] I already had a checkout :) [12:57] ok [12:58] * cyphermox takes sflphone-evolution [13:02] cyphermox: btw, you didn't push your latest and greatest in the vcs [13:02] cyphermox: I'm committing it by hand [13:02] I could have pushed === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [13:05] oh, you had it? [13:05] cyphermox: still time to --override [13:05] tell me once done :) [13:06] --overwrite* [13:06] ah, what did you commit? [13:06] the same that your upload source :) [13:08] there. [13:08] sorry ;) [13:08] seems I'm not the only one, e-d-s looks out of date in the ~ubuntu-desktop branch [13:10] happy birthday didrocks! [13:11] thanks kenvandine :) [13:12] mterry: hey :) === cking_ is now known as cking [13:18] didrocks, hi [13:19] didrocks, your birthday!? awesome [13:20] mterry: :) [13:21] mterry: do you think https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-q-unity-greeter would qualify as "beta available" for a status? [13:22] didrocks, sure, most of the TODO items are design-related, not code-we-ship-related [13:22] didrocks, I tried to get them to update their status too, but no luck so far [13:22] (in the sense of getting the designers to update TODO to DONE if they did it) [13:23] mterry: heh, I know the issue, believe me :) [13:23] mterry: thanks! === pesari_ is now known as pesari [13:59] desrt_: good morning! [14:00] didrocks: hey [14:00] didrocks: i saw the upload. thanks. [14:00] desrt_: yw ;) [14:00] desrt_: do you have any pick on https://code.launchpad.net/~timo-jyrinki/gconf/support-s-to-as-migrations/+merge/123744? Mirv will appreciate some feedbacks [14:00] it's for dealing the s -> as migration [14:03] didrocks: commented === desrt_ is now known as desrt [14:04] desrt: thanks, Mirv ^ === JanC_ is now known as JanC [14:14] mterry: ping. you are import ubuntu_sso.utils.ui in duplicity? [14:15] dobey, we do "from ubuntuone.platform.credentials import CredentialsManagementTool" to log in [14:15] dobey, and that ends up including the ui module somehow [14:16] dobey, same with "import ubuntuone.couch.auth" [14:17] huh, weird === huats_ is now known as huats === fginther` is now known as fginther [14:33] dobey, ah... I hadn't realized they'd removed ugettext in Py3. Makes sense [14:34] mterry: yeah, i had to check that in pydoc [14:38] didrocks, google just notified me it's your birthday, so happy one :) [14:39] rodrigo_: oh, that's kind! (waow, didn't know google had this feature ;)). Thanks a lot :) [14:40] didrocks, yes, when searching :-) [14:40] didrocks, I guess you have your birth date in google+ and it know you are in my circles [14:40] interesting ;) [14:40] right [14:41] didrocks, and not taking the day off for partying??? :D [14:41] rodrigo_: heh, no, seems Julie wants that I leave from work early to go down to the city, but I have absolutely no idea where :) [14:41] ah, surprise party [14:42] right, let's see :) [14:42] I think it's in a windows developers-only bar, but I shouldn't say anything [14:42] heh [14:42] rodrigo_: maybe that will realize on of my dream, trolling there :) [14:43] hehe [14:43] rodrigo_: in Paris, some years ago, we distributed some ubuntu CD in front of the windows coffee house [14:43] for the opening [14:43] was fun :) [14:43] :) === pgraner` is now known as pgraner [15:02] anyone here with an intel i915/i945 machine willing to bisect mesa? I'll build the packages [15:06] kenvandine: !!! [15:06] -dh_install --fail-missing [15:06] +dh_install [15:06] heart attack :) [15:07] didrocks, where did you see that? [15:07] i am complaining to vruiz right now about him removing that :) [15:07] kenvandine: https://code.launchpad.net/~vrruiz/unity-chromium-extension/quantal-autoreconf/+merge/124219 === Quintasan_ is now known as Quintasan [15:08] kenvandine: please stop it! :-) [15:08] i just did :) [15:08] thanks ;) [15:08] wow... you see everything :) [15:08] I do \o/ [15:08] (effective filters) [15:09] he thought it was failing a build [15:09] but his build was actually successful :) [15:10] jibel: ping [15:10] kenvandine: ahah, even better :) [15:11] * didrocks will create a dh-install-fail-missing launchpad team soon :) [15:13] haha [15:14] tjaalton, pong [15:15] jibel: willing to bisect mesa? [15:15] jibel: ie. testing packages [15:17] tjaalton, sure, at least until the machine keeps booting. Do you have packages to test ? [15:17] jibel: not yet, have to make the build minimal to increase the likelihood that every iteration builds :P [15:17] but soon [15:18] jibel: 32 or 64bit? [15:18] tjaalton, 32 [15:18] ok [15:18] tjaalton: looking at the mesa regression from last week? [15:18] didrocks: yep [15:18] great, thanks tjaalton :) [15:19] didn't see anything obvious on upstream bugzilla === lan3y is now known as Laney [15:52] jibel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~tjaalton/lp1047306/1/ [15:52] jibel: still uploading.. [15:57] jibel: there [16:02] tjaalton, trying [16:03] jibel: thanks, should be enough to install libgl1-mesa-dri and -glx [16:03] maybe libglapi-mesa [16:05] tjaalton, 9.0~git20120913+bisect-0.1 works [16:06] jibel: cool, thanks! I'll prepare the next set [16:18] jibel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~tjaalton/lp1047306/2 [16:19] tjaalton, is it uploading or should I install only these 3 packages ? [16:20] jibel: just these three [16:20] ack [16:20] remove the previous extra ones if you installed them :) [16:24] tjaalton, bisect-0.2 works [16:24] jibel: great, building the next one.. [16:25] should be quicker now [16:27] jibel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~tjaalton/lp1047306/3 [16:30] tjaalton, 3 is ok [16:30] jibel: thanks [16:30] building.. [16:30] :) [16:31] hang around ;) [16:31] I want to file it upstream asap [16:32] jibel: /4 ready [16:35] tjaalton, 4 is ok too [16:36] interesting.. [16:36] building again [16:38] jibel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~tjaalton/lp1047306/5 [16:42] should be bad.. [16:42] tjaalton, it is bad [16:42] phew :) [16:43] you broke my netbook again :( [16:43] sorry [16:45] jibel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~tjaalton/lp1047306/6 [16:48] mterry, Uhg, that rls 0.6.0 didn't build in the PPA :-/ [16:48] mterry, I'll fix it. [16:48] tedg, k [16:54] tjaalton, 6 is ok [16:54] oh.. [16:55] would've though it wasn't, but oh well [16:55] *thought [16:57] jibel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~tjaalton/lp1047306/7 [17:03] tjaalton, 7 is broken [17:04] jibel: ok, final build [17:04] really weird... [17:06] jibel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~tjaalton/lp1047306/8 [17:07] so two commits, moving stuff around in main headers.. [17:07] why the heck would it break just i915 [17:14] tjaalton, 8 is ok [17:15] jibel: thanks! [17:16] jibel: would you be willing to test one last time with this single commit reverted from the version that got rolled back? === Trewas666 is now known as Trewas [17:20] tjaalton, the version that got rolled back was 20120903.e1673d20, right ? [17:20] jibel: yes [17:20] but I'll build a new set [17:20] ok [17:25] tjaalton, so, I installed 20120903.e1673d2, verified that it is broken [17:25] tjaalton, installed bisect 0.8, and verified that it works [17:26] tjaalton, afk for a moment, let me know when a new set is available, I'll test it later today. [17:27] jibel: yeah, building now, available in 10min [17:36] jibel: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~tjaalton/lp1047306 [19:01] tedg, did you ever fix whatever build problem you had with remote-login-service? [19:01] tedg, (i.e. should I look at that MR?) [19:01] mterry, Looking at it. It's failing because the tests can't get the system bus. [19:01] mterry, So it's fine without tests. [19:01] :-/ [19:01] Not sure how to test running without a system bus. [19:02] tedg, that isn't something that's come up before? [19:02] tedg, doesn't installing dbus in a chroot start a system bus? [19:03] Yeah, that is interesting, there should be a system bus there. I wonder if it's just that NM isn't on the system bus. [19:03] Cancelling killed the build logs :-/ [19:15] tjaalton, are the packages *~git20120903.e1673d20-0ubuntu2_i386.deb at the root of http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~tjaalton/lp1047306 the new version that need testing ? [19:18] jibel: yes. the bisect was already reviewed to be good, so those should work :) [19:20] tjaalton, I'm asking because they really look like the broken version. the checksums are the same [19:24] jibel: let me check [19:25] jibel: oh duh, I built the old snapshot.. hang on [19:27] purged the debs, should get the new ones now [19:28] not yet copied [19:34] jibel: ready [19:39] afk -> [19:45] tjaalton, latest debs are good. I'll update the report. Thanks! [19:45] and good night everyone [19:51] kenvandine: ping [19:52] dobey, pong [19:52] kenvandine: hey. do you know how to 'package' these webapp things? [19:53] it's just a single file [19:53] a userscript [19:53] talk to racarr though, i think there is some tool [19:53] and a desktop file and icons presumably? [19:54] i was looking at lp:webapps-applications but it just seems to run "xdg-open $url" for things [19:54] the desktop file gets created automatically [19:54] when it loads [19:55] if you are talking about for an app that will be on the launcher by default [19:55] definately talk to racarr [19:55] he has a plan there [19:56] i don't know what i'm talking about. i was just told i need to get some sort of package together for the new music store as a webapp :) [19:56] and i can't find any documentation about that, and nobody said anything about needing more javascript [19:56] dobey, You don't need it to be a package. Websites can just include it on their own page. [19:56] The package is only for websites that don't support Ubuntu themselves. [19:56] tedg: with the right icons and everything? [19:56] One would think the U1 store would do that themselves :-) [19:57] dobey, Yes [19:57] the site already supports it [19:57] it is [19:57] tedg: is there any documentation about it? or are you the only one who knows this through anecdotal evidence? [19:57] you just need the launcher [19:57] this is about the icon in the launcher, yes [19:57] aquarius and racarr discussed this at length [19:58] right, so what is this launcher supposed to launch? [19:58] Ah, so before the user allows the site to have integration, we want to have a link in the launcher. [19:58] So it's a desktop file then. [19:58] dobey, The Internet [19:58] * dobey makes a big blue e icon [19:59] I don't know the whole story here, but I'd guess "webbrowser http://musicstore.u1.com" [19:59] Exec=wine C:\ieinstall.exe [19:59] dobey, xdg-open url [20:00] and you need to get the app on the pre-allowed list [20:00] really, talk to racarr :) [20:00] dobey, That would be awesome, I've missed cleaning off malware, the productivity today is KILLING ME! [20:00] it will magically add a new launcher with the right properties [20:01] having Exec=xdg-open $url really makes no sense, btw :) [20:02] unless unity's .desktop file parsing is broken [20:03] Type=Link, URL=$url would be the correct way to do that :) [20:03] anyway [20:08] kenvandine: I'm going to do an empathy upload to drop the gsettings override [20:08] jbicha, for? [20:10] because that override is in ubuntu-settings now [20:11] ok [20:11] great [20:11] :) [20:11] thx [20:14] rhythmbox can be uploaded too if someone wants to sponsor (it's not in the desktop set) [20:20] jbicha: you noticed the rename, yes? [20:27] Laney: yes, saw it in didrocks' weekly Release report [20:28] ah, cool, didn't know it went there === ajmitch_ is now known as ajmitch [20:44] https://twitter.com/chrisccoulson/status/246348011746230273 \o/ [20:46] where is the "integrate this site with ubuntu?" thing supposed to appear at? [20:46] i've no idea [20:49] chrisccoulson: nice! [20:49] mdeslaur, yeah, it looks much better :) [20:50]