[00:00] <darkxst> and it doesnt affect grub (once installed)
[00:03] <darkxst> jbicha, perhaps you could do a build with a downgrade kernel?
[00:06] <jbicha> well it's already been dropped from the archives, unfortunately the new kernel landed before the new casper did
[00:07] <darkxst> do you have the packages in the cache?
[00:07] <jbicha> we also want the metacity update which means that window buttons show on the right in GNOME Classic
[00:07] <darkxst> I only have the amd64 build pacakge
[00:09] <jbicha> LP still has the old .deb's so yeah it's possible; I'm just getting tired of hacking things together
[00:29] <darkxst> jbicha the metacity fix has landed
[00:29] <darkxst> ?
[00:30] <jbicha> yes, the override has been moved to ubuntu-default-settings which isn't installed by default on Ubuntu GNOME
[00:31] <jbicha> but if you have ubuntu-default-settings installed, the buttons will still be on the left since we don't override the setting
[00:33] <darkxst> but that won't affect the liveCD?
[00:37] <jbicha> window buttons are on the right if you build the live CD today
[02:07] <darkxst> jbicha, do you have 32bit iso from just before the new kernel?
[02:10] <jbicha> yeah but I had been fighting casper for a while so I don't know if that part worked
[02:12] <darkxst> you can repack initrd.lz with new autologin file, and then just use the kernel from that to build an image
[02:14] <jbicha> I don't think I'll bother, I think I'll just release with that bug
[02:15] <jbicha> you're right that it doesn't affect after install
[02:15] <darkxst> ok
[10:07] <darkxst> smartboyhw, build script is fixed now if you want to test
[10:08] <darkxst> upstream, if you build an image today autologin should work ;)
[10:09] <smartboyhw> :)
[10:11] <darkxst> there is still one bug harmless boot bug  though bug 1049650
[10:11] <darkxst> that is not ours
[10:12] <smartboyhw> :)
[13:48] <smartboyhw> Hi jbicha
[13:48] <TheLordOfTime> I BRING YOU ALL GREETINGS
[13:48] <TheLordOfTime> whoops caps
[13:48] <smartboyhw> lol
[13:48] <jbicha> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ReleaseNotes/12.10Alpha2
[13:49] <TheLordOfTime> so, now my tasks includes ubuntu server stuff o.O
[13:49] <TheLordOfTime> how the heck did that happen...
[13:49] <smartboyhw> Damn it I just finished compiling the builds
[13:49] <smartboyhw> And now suddenly now it has been shipped:(
[13:49] <TheLordOfTime> i see Alpha2
[13:49] <TheLordOfTime> not "Release"
[13:49] <jbicha> smartboyhw: it's the same thing; I use the same script you do
[13:50] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha:  i assume that bug triaging is still a priority for 12.10 of any derivative
[13:51] <jbicha> yes, we ship parts of GNOME that no one else does so those need testing in particular
[13:51] <jbicha> *no one else in Ubuntu*
[13:51] <smartboyhw> HAHAHA
[13:51] <TheLordOfTime> i might not be able to *test*, but if you point me to the relevant buglists, i'll see what can be triaged
[13:51] <TheLordOfTime> (on Windows right now, stuck there for a while)
[13:51] <smartboyhw> well I say it is good for beta except that Undefined video mode
[13:52] <jbicha> oh ok, you can just pick a package then: for instance https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdm/
[13:52] <smartboyhw> jbicha: Don't forget to post a message on Ubuntu Forums of Alpha 2
[13:52] <jbicha> smartboyhw: I think that bug is a bit annoying but generally harmless and I didn't think it would get fixed this week
[13:53] <smartboyhw> Yep
[13:53] <jbicha> I would have been willing to wait a day or two, but they still haven't isolated what caused the problem yet
[13:56] <smartboyhw> jbicha: People seemed perplexed on how to use the iso build script
[13:56] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha:  i might tweak that page a tiny but, due to the "bugs" section just saying "The Bug Squad is always looking for more help."
[13:56] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha:  Bug Squad has a lot to do with it,  but 95% of triagers arent in Bug Squad
[13:56] <TheLordOfTime> save for those of us who are Bug Gods :P
[13:56] <smartboyhw> I think I can go and make a ISO build script wiki page on the Ubuntu wiki
[13:56] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha:  feel free to critique my edits though
[13:57] <smartboyhw> TheLordOfTime, I thought you mean 95% are not in the bug control team
[13:57] <TheLordOfTime> smartboyhw:  that's true :P
[13:57] <TheLordOfTime> but the Bug Gods are different ;)
[13:57] <TheLordOfTime> (Bug Control isnt just bugsquad, different other groups have bug control as well)
[13:57] <smartboyhw> ;)
[13:57] <TheLordOfTime> (such as the security team)
[13:58] <jbicha> sure, feel free to make improvements
[13:58] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha:  done, feel free to critique severely
[13:58]  * TheLordOfTime is in class, and wrote that on the fly
[13:58] <TheLordOfTime> wait, you ship GDM?
[13:58] <TheLordOfTime> instead of lightdm>
[14:05] <jbicha> TheLordOfTime: yes, GDM is the only thing that works with the lock screen in GNOME Shell 3.6
[14:06] <TheLordOfTime> ah
[14:06] <TheLordOfTime> isnt GDM more resource-intense than lightdm?
[14:22] <smartboyhw> jbicha: Look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGNOME/ISOBuildScript
[14:22] <smartboyhw> The instructions for the ISO build script:)
[14:24] <smartboyhw> Read it:)
[14:27] <smartboyhw> jbicha: What's the MD5SUM of the Alpha 2 images?
[14:31] <jbicha> a3fa2bfff9a65acec4d376b3b187f271  quantal-ubuntu-gnome-i386-20120913.iso
[14:31] <smartboyhw> OK
[14:31] <jbicha> b03d1db5859c3ae2b3f036ed51832a55  quantal-ubuntu-gnome-amd64-20120913.iso
[14:32] <smartboyhw> Sha1 or md5?
[14:32] <smartboyhw> jbicha: ?
[14:35] <jbicha> md5
[14:35] <smartboyhw> OK
[14:36] <smartboyhw> Just posted it on the Ubuntu GNOME Remix dev snapshot thread on UF
[14:41] <TheLordOfTime> jbicha, isnt GDM more resource-intensive than lightdm?
[14:42] <TheLordOfTime> smartboyhw, also, for the record, privmsg me without permission and i get cross :p
[14:42] <TheLordOfTime> just saying  (in regards to #freenode)
[14:42] <smartboyhw> ;P
[14:43] <smartboyhw> I have learnt the lesson before (for 10 times:(_