Mirvhi! could someone ack or no-ack bug #1047067? we'd very much like to start proper testing of compiz soon and include the patch.07:36
ubot2Launchpad bug 1047067 in compiz "[FFE][UIFE][regression] workspace switcher layout needs adjustments" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104706707:36
Mirvit's essentially a regression fix07:36
Mirvto bring back 12.04 behavior07:36
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Laneywhat seed (branches) are used for the china images?09:31
bencerhi, anybody could have a look at this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zentyal-samba/+bug/1043654 we have been waiting already some days without reply, thanks!!10:07
ubot2Launchpad bug 1043654 in zentyal-samba "[FFe] New version of zentyal-samba" [High,Confirmed]10:07
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cjwatsonRight, I'm about to start landing/deploying the first third or so of the Python rewrite of cdimage, and I'll do an Ubuntu desktop respin to test11:01
cjwatsonIf I'm lucky and my existing test cases are sufficiently good, nobody will notice11:01
cjwatsonBut in the real world some of you will probably get some error mail11:02
Laneydidrocks: ^ could you NEW u-s to main and remove u-d-s please?11:06
didrocksLaney: sure, looking11:07
Laneyif it checks out, of course11:07
LaneyI pushed the seed change, needs refreshing after that11:07
didrocksLaney: ok, source NEWed in main, I trust you on the C/R as you experimented it ;)11:09
Laneyit works as long as u-d-s is removed :-)11:12
didrocksLaney: ok, and ubuntu-default-settings removed (thanks for the arch:all change btw), so they get published in the same publisher run11:13
didrocksLaney: you will take care of refreshing ubuntu-meta once the promotion in main is published?11:14
LaneyI didn't do that, someone else must have done it in bzr11:14
Laneyyeah sure11:14
didrocksLaney: I remember mentionning it to jbicha, wasn't sure he has done it :)11:15
didrocksLaney: thanks!11:15
cjwatsonGosh, that actually seems to have worked11:31
cjwatsonDidn't try a full build, just for-project ubuntu cron.daily-live, but still, that'll have gone through the whole rewritten publish-daily11:31
* ogra_ applauds11:34
Davieycjwatson: is there a documented list of changes,improvements ?11:38
cjwatson* Test suite11:39
cjwatsonIt's intended to be otherwise feature-equivalent right now11:39
cjwatsonI have enough to do with a rewrite without extending it as well :-)11:39
Davieycjwatson: is this the seeds to integration with Offspring?11:40
cjwatsonThat's not the primary driver, although it may help that later11:40
cjwatson(Or it may not; Offspring may well just use a subprocess interface)11:41
cjwatsonIt's more that some things have reached the point of being unchangeable without a test suite11:41
cjwatsonAnd some things have been pushing the boundaries of being sensible to do in shell for a while11:41
DavieyIs it also now easier to test code on a local machine?11:42
Davieyi don't just mean pass tests.. i mean do feature work?11:42
Davieyas in, will it create an output :)11:43
cjwatsonBut for practically all feature work (once the rewrite is actually complete) it should be possible to write unit tests11:43
cjwatsonRemembering that most changes to image *content* have nothing to do with cdimage11:43
cjwatson(Ironically you can't yet do ./run-tests on nusakan because its unittest is too old, but maybe that will help persuade people to stop committing stuff on nusakan)11:44
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cjwatsonThe other driver for this is that I have permission to kill off the private code branch of cdimage and open-source everything as long as it goes along with being in Python with a test suite11:45
Davieyoooooor, just people committing without running tests b:(11:45
cjwatsonI have a rusty nail here for such purposes11:46
cjwatsonI'll be moving the primary hosting to LP at some point, which will make it more or less impossible to commit from nusakan11:48
Davieycjwatson: You underestimated the will of wrongdoers11:50
cjwatsonDaviey: Well, speaking of which, I found (and committed) an uncommitted change in the deployed tree on nusakan which added a certain dave.walker@canonical.com to etc/notify-addresses11:51
cjwatsonI wonder who might have done that?11:51
* xnox Daviey-- for being naughty11:52
Davieycjwatson: hmm, that is odd... because stgraber told me he committed it. :/11:53
DavieyOh wait, stgraber uncommited it.11:55
Daviey <stgraber> Daviey: looks like you manually commited something on nusakan (etc/notify-addresses) preventing pulling the new revisions of cdimage-deployment... I "fixed" it by uncommiting your change for now11:56
Daviey12:58 -!- cjwatson [~cjwatson@82-69-40-219.dsl.in-addr.zen.co.uk] has quit [QUIT IN DISGUST]11:59
Davieycjwatson: I'd like to work out what happend.. I thought i committed it to /srv/cdimage.ubuntu.com/bzr/private/cdimage tree..12:05
Davieystgraber says he uncommitted something manually commited12:06
Davieyit's not unlike me to mess up, but i'd like to work out how.12:07
cjwatsonThere was no sign of a commit there12:09
cjwatsonBut it's hard to tell now12:09
* cjwatson doesn't really feel like messing around with bzrlib to find uncommitted revisions :)12:09
DavieyLets just draw it up that i suck.12:10
xnoxcjwatson: $ bzr heads ?12:10
knomei know that "irc is not the optimal place to ask" (yeah right), but could a release team member give us an ack on bug 104965812:10
ubot2Launchpad bug 1049658 in ubiquity-slideshow-ubuntu "[Xubuntu] Office slide needs to be updated" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104965812:10
knome(for UIFe)12:11
cjwatsonxnox: ah yes12:11
cjwatsonWell, I can only see an uncommit from stgraber on 2012-06-07, which was to crontab and doesn't seem related12:11
Laneyit's not optimal because it interrupts people rather than letting them get to it when they're in the right context.12:11
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rtginfinity, doko: bug #1049650 indicates a binutils regression. Any thoughts on reverting the most recent update ?15:19
ubot2Launchpad bug 1049650 in linux "Regression: "Undefined video mode" with 3.5.0-14.16" [Medium,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104965015:19
dokortg, as already said on -kernel: I'll provide you with (some) toolchain builds15:21
rtgdoko, oh, I thought your suggestion to use https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/quantal/+source/binutils/ _was_ your tool chain build15:22
dokortg, well, first trying to find out if it's a binutils or gcc issue, then trying to locate the issue15:23
rtgdoko, then you're agreed now that it is a binutils issue ?15:23
slangasektoolchain, at least15:24
slangasekcould still be a gcc regression tripped by a binutils change?15:24
dokoyes, looking into this.15:24
rtgok, I'll leave it to the experts.15:25
dokortg, how can the kernel package be used to just build this one binary?15:25
rtgdoko, I don't understand what you're asking. I updated binutils in my local chroot, then built and booted the resulting kernel.15:26
dokortg, I was asking for a smaller testcase than building the complete package including n kernels15:27
slangasekbecause that's a limiting factor for those of us who don't have kernel team hardware ;)15:27
rtgwell, doko has access to kernel team HW IIRC15:28
slangasekand access to install new binutils for testing?15:28
rtgbut there are shortcuts to the build process that only build the kernel binary without headers and udebs, etc.15:29
rtgslangasek, uh, thats more difficult15:29
slangasekright, and I think that's what doko wants15:29
slangasekthe shortcut15:29
rtgfakeroot debian/rules clean; fakeroot debian/rules binary-generic15:29
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dokortg: two binutils packages in my home on chinstrap. please check the newer one first, the older one only if the newer one doesn't work. afk now for some hours, will be back later tonight16:50
rtgdoko, ack16:50
rtgdoko, binutils_2.22.90.20120907-3_amd64.deb first ?16:51
dokortg, yes, reverted a commit, which is the only touching generic files. everything else is arch specific in the update16:52
dokoand the older is one is just the rebuilt with recent gcc16:52
rtgdoko, ok, will do16:53
dokohave to run16:53
rtgdoko, binutils_2.22.90.20120907-3_amd64.deb seems to have done the trick. The kernel boots at least.17:15
rtg(quantal-amd64)rtg@salmon:~/ubuntu/ubuntu-quantal$ dpkg -l|grep binutils17:15
rtgii  binutils                   
cjwatsonGRUB 2.00 uploaded, whee17:20
plarsDaviey: of interest... I get OOM with 256M, but not with 512.  Would logs showing the oom be useful? It sounds to me like the fact that I'm getting these OOMs, and failing to install completely with 128M would be a bug rather than an indication we should raise the minimum right?17:24
cjwatsonAre you following the directions in lowmem/README?17:24
cjwatsonIf not, please do, it would be more helpful than raw figures with full installs17:25
plarscjwatson: it's not clear to me what you're suggesting I do from that README.  It seems to indicate how it can be simulated if you don't actually boot with low amounts of memory and you want to simulate the behavior with lower amounts of RAM, but in my case, I'm controlling the ram with kvm17:39
dobeymterry: ^^ is taht ubuntu-sso-client upload to precise-proposed yours?17:53
mterrydobey, yeah17:53
dokoRiddell, please remind http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/nbs.html (attica)18:06
* Laney eyes twisted18:07
Laneydoko: did you have FFe for that?18:07
dokoLaney, bug fixes only18:07
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Laneyhttps://launchpadlibrarian.net/115528804/twisted_12.0.0-1ubuntu1_12.2.0-1.diff.gz ?18:08
dokoLaney, while you are here, why the difference in haskell armhf/armel build failures18:08
Laneythere is definitely a bug in the compiler, but for armel failing when armhf builds, check if the buildd in question is on precise18:13
Laneynow, I clearly see "Features" in that diff...18:15
Laneywhen does twisted become installable again?18:15
dokoin about 2h. why do you need to depend on this catch-all python-twisted package?18:19
dokoif can't explain it, call it a compiler error ...18:20
dokoif you can't explain it, call it a compiler error ...18:20
balloonsSo when I install today's daily on a machine which has 12.04.1, I am not given the option to upgrade. In addition, if I choose to install 12.10 alongside 12.04, I cannot chose the encryption or lvm options. This all seems correct, except me not being able to upgrade via the cd. Is this intended because of the LTS, because it's not final cd, or something else?18:21
Laneyif the compiler segfaults, I'll call it a compiler error18:22
Laneybut nice attempt at trolling me18:22
dokosorry, didn't see the bug report18:22
xnoxballoons:  I was pondering about that as well. I'm not sure why. There are ~ bug reports about os_prober and missing fuse udeb18:22
xnoxballoons: it should offer to upgrade (well lifecd style upgrade which is reinstall while preserving files)18:23
balloonsxnox, right.. I thought so.. :-)18:23
ogra_funnily i get upgrade notifications for every arm SD card i plug into my 12.04 desktop :)18:24
balloonsxnox, so heh, do you want a new bug on this?18:24
xnoxballoons: yeah....18:24
* xnox how did I end up being the $installer dev?!18:24
ogra_you grabbed all these bugs :)18:25
* xnox reassigns a few xnox -> ogra_18:26
balloonsxnox, ohh you are?! Excellent, I've got more to assign you! :-)18:26
* xnox /0\18:26
* xnox where is the UTF characters head-desk when you need it18:26
Laneydoko: btw, it's not me depending on python-twisted, but kubuntu, ubuntu-server and ubuntustudio18:30
Laneyso if it's buggy to do that take it up there :-)18:30
mterryFriendly poke about UIFe bug 1049231 and friends (unity-greeter ui nits)18:39
ubot2Launchpad bug 1049231 in unity-greeter "[UIFe] The gap between the user name and password entry is too large in the greeter" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/104923118:39
dokortg: http://sourceware.org/ml/binutils/2012-09/msg00159.html18:45
plarsxnox: since you're now officially the install expert... :)18:51
plarsxnox: any idea why, if I have a 1GB disk, and select LVM, the max it wants to use is 813MB?18:52
plarsit seems to want to leave about 200MB on the floor18:52
xnoxplars: 1GB is actually less in real units and then -5% reserved for root ~= 813?!18:53
plarsxnox: I seem to recall seeing what it came up with at one point and seeing about 200M unpartitioned space after this though, let me see18:56
xnox953.674 - 5% = 905.35 no clue18:56
xnoxso we are missing 92 MB18:56
xnoxplars: oh when you do autopartition it creates separate /boot partition outside lvm?!18:57
xnoxon my machine it's 300 MB but I'm not sure if I manually adjusted it.18:57
plarsxnox: the 5% doesn't come into play until you format though, I'm talking about the partitioner saying it can only do 813MB of the 1G disk18:57
plarshmm, maybe that's it, let me see what it gives me18:58
balloonsxnox, trying to file that bug.. I found two more19:00
xnoxballoons: i will read them in my bug-mail tomorrow morning with coffee19:01
balloons:-) technically one is apport related, the other is almost certainly only apport19:02
dokoinfinity, do you understand https://launchpadlibrarian.net/115821556/buildlog_ubuntu-quantal-armhf.binutils_2.22.90.20120913-1ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz ?19:58
balloonscjwatson, so the new grub2 package - -where all is it going to propagate to (image wise?)? Will I need to manually upgrade myself, or will I be automatically upgraded?20:12
Laneythe china images I respun earlier didn't get pushed to http://china-images.ubuntu.com/quantal/daily-live/20:13
dokortg, slangasek: new binutils now pubished for amd64, i386. still building on the other archs. afk now20:15
Laneyseems it needs to download from ubuntu-zh_CN/20:16
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slangasekdoko: thanks for the fix :)20:28
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Laneycjwatson: ^ looks like UBUNTU_DEFAULTS_LOCALE doesn't make it through somehow20:37
infinitydoko: Dunno.  Cosmic rays, or lamont messing with things.20:57
dokoinfinity, context? otoh lamont is good enought as an excuse ;-P20:58
infinitydoko: Context being that lamont's been upgrading Pandas to precise today, and ain was on that list.20:59
Laneyoh, /that's/ what it was20:59
* Laney yays20:59
infinitydoko: So, it's entirely possibly that what appeared to be file corruption was just external influence.20:59
infinitydoko: Then again, still could have been cosmic rays and a random bit flip. ;)21:00
dokogood to know21:00
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lamontinfinity: ain was down for several weeks before finally getting a fresh install today22:34
lamontinfinity: that was the bad burn when we were testing pxeboot22:35
infinitylamont: Oh, right.  Well, no idea what doko's buildus interruptus was, but no big deal.22:35
lamontwell, I did toss 5 others through the chomper this morning, since we were messing with PB0122:36

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