| silverarrow | opens browser and discovers it is possible to open gnome mplay by double finger clicking on black totem window | 00:00 |
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| silverarrow | sorry, I don`t know what the sytem does if it doesn`t tell me | 00:00 |
| silverarrow | hey, why is the daily iso too large for cd? | 00:07 |
| silverarrow | ubuntu wil not boot at all | 00:42 |
| silverarrow | I think ubuntu should boot though? | 00:47 |
| silverarrow | what are minimal specs for ubuntu? | 00:47 |
| silverarrow | 1GHz cpu 1GB RAM ? | 00:48 |
| silverarrow | that is mee on xchat | 00:51 |
| taoseeker | there is no way about the graphics xorg bug in Ubuntu for ppc? | 00:57 |
| taoseeker | and not fixed for the daily build | 00:58 |
| taoseeker | no live desktop environment | 00:58 |
| taoseeker | I should be able to run ubuntu on the ibook | 01:00 |
| taoseeker | fine | 01:00 |
| taoseeker | maybe not as snappy as lubuntu but should run | 01:00 |
| taoseeker | who is testing for ubuntu and ppc? | 01:00 |
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| silverarrow | where is the xorg bugreport again? | 01:07 |
| silverarrow | there is definitely a bug with latest Ubuntu daily ppc i | 01:23 |
| silverarrow | xorg, graphics something | 01:23 |
| kanliot | lol i was searching for pcp | 01:26 |
| kanliot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-ati/+bug/1046951 | 01:27 |
| kanliot | and | 01:27 |
| kanliot | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubiquity/+bug/1046619 | 01:27 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1046951 in xserver-xorg-video-ati (Ubuntu) "No desktop environment or window manager, just X with the mouse" [High,Confirmed] | 01:27 |
| ubot5 | Ubuntu bug 1046619 in ubiquity (Ubuntu) "Ubiquity fail to launch in 12.10 powerpc" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 01:27 |
| kanliot | silverarrow please join the lubuntu-qa mailing list | 01:28 |
| kanliot | just suggestion | 01:28 |
| silverarrow | I`m on it | 01:32 |
| silverarrow | I`m about to check my email | 01:33 |
| taoseeker | unfortunately no improvement on the daily build | 02:33 |
| taoseeker | xorg or installer do not work | 02:33 |
| taoseeker | I lean towards xorg too now | 02:33 |
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| kanliot | https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2012-September/035887.html | 05:13 |
| kanliot | ^ we might be having grub 2.0 put into Ubuntu for 12.10 | 05:13 |
| * kanliot can't figure out why | 05:13 | |
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| silverarrow | hi | 09:57 |
| smartboyhw | Hi silverarrow | 09:58 |
| silverarrow | have you manged any testing lately? | 09:58 |
| smartboyhw | silverarrow: No been busying after Beta 1 on writing documentations and accomplishments and Ubuntu GNOME remix | 09:59 |
| silverarrow | sounds like a lot | 10:00 |
| silverarrow | I still struggle booting the dailys even | 10:00 |
| silverarrow | non of the regular fixes work | 10:00 |
| silverarrow | might be xorg resisting cooperationj | 10:01 |
| silverarrow | are there any news on the latest updates and dailies? | 10:23 |
| smartboyhw | silverarrow: What news? I don't understanf | 10:23 |
| silverarrow | I think most of installer fix for ppc | 10:24 |
| silverarrow | which might be major xorg work | 10:24 |
| silverarrow | as long as it isn't a silverback | 10:44 |
| smartboyhw | lol | 10:44 |
| smartboyhw | kanliot: You here? | 11:00 |
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| davmor2 | balloons: is it just me or when using the Nouveau driver is the highlight around buttons God awful | 14:34 |
| balloons | davmor2, not sure anymore | 14:41 |
| balloons | I'm using the open amd drivers this cycle | 14:41 |
| smartboyhw | Yep amd drivers here also | 14:42 |
| balloons | I did use nouveau last cycle.. I don't remember that issue.. For me, the nouveau driver was SO much nicer for the desktop than nvidia at the time | 14:42 |
| smartboyhw | lol | 14:42 |
| balloons | vterm switching took forever | 14:42 |
| balloons | no 3d though of course :-) | 14:43 |
| davmor2 | balloons: I'll take some screenshots another time but I need the nvidia binaries in place for testing the CA apps currently | 14:45 |
| balloons | ahh | 14:48 |
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| phillw | balloons: ping | 15:33 |
| smartboyhw | Oh oh | 15:33 |
| balloons | phillw, pong | 15:42 |
| * smartboyhw watches the conversation carefully | 15:42 | |
| phillw | balloons: Dave replied back re: new grub, apart from also expressing suprise at not being informed, he is happy to help out if someone cares to give him a poke. drstalk@gmail.com (or drs305 on the ubuntu forum). | 15:43 |
| smartboyhw | I like the new grub | 15:45 |
| balloons | phillw, did you send him colin's request? | 15:45 |
| smartboyhw | Well what happened to drs305? | 15:46 |
| phillw | I can forward the one from you? | 15:46 |
| balloons | phillw, yes please | 15:47 |
| balloons | cc me also if you don't mind.. So I have an intro | 15:47 |
| balloons | and then I'll say hello as well | 15:47 |
| smartboyhw | cc me too please:) | 15:47 |
| smartboyhw | I want to have a look at it:) | 15:48 |
| balloons | lol | 15:48 |
| balloons | you want to test grub smartboyhw? | 15:48 |
| balloons | are you comfortable recovering your broken system? | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | balloons: I already installed grub2 | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | And it's fine now:) | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | Fast too | 15:48 |
| balloons | do you know how to recover your system if it didn't work? | 15:48 |
| smartboyhw | Yes:) | 15:48 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, ahh then, well, your all set | 15:49 |
| smartboyhw | I did take a look at the recover guides;) | 15:49 |
| phillw | email sent. | 15:49 |
| smartboyhw | OK got it | 15:49 |
| smartboyhw | Ah it is actually that one | 15:49 |
| smartboyhw | i received it in lubuntu-qa list | 15:49 |
| phillw | smartboyhw: yup, I cc'd the guys there asking for volunteers :) | 15:51 |
| balloons | smartboyhw, yep.. did you report to colin? | 15:53 |
| smartboyhw | ;D | 15:57 |
| smartboyhw | No I didn't | 15:57 |
| * balloons is having fun with moinmoin wiki again | 16:17 | |
| balloons | fixed the silliness on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings | 16:23 |
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| balloons | is anyone about who's running quantal? | 18:48 |
| balloons | I have a request to confirm a rather bizarre bug.. Should take about 5 mins of your time.. And no kittens should be harmed :-) | 18:49 |
| elfy | if it's not ubuntu specific then shout balloons | 18:57 |
| balloons | elfy, no it's not | 18:57 |
| elfy | then what is it :) | 18:57 |
| balloons | elfy, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12236850#post12236850 | 18:57 |
| balloons | read my first and third posts.. basically, taking a screenshot after running a wine program doesn't work | 18:57 |
| balloons | the screenshot will show the older screenshot | 18:58 |
| balloons | recording your screen after running wine via kazaam or ffmpeg is the same | 18:58 |
| balloons | you only get the single still image from the first screenshot you took before running the wine program | 18:58 |
| balloons | it's really odd | 18:58 |
| elfy | mmm - so I'd have to pollute my xubuntu experience with wine and some ms app | 18:58 |
| balloons | mm.. you would have to install wine | 18:59 |
| balloons | but you could run the built in notepad | 18:59 |
| balloons | sorry elfy ;-) | 18:59 |
| elfy | oh ok | 18:59 |
| balloons | no wories if you'd rather not | 18:59 |
| elfy | After this operation, 526 MB of additional disk space will be used. | 18:59 |
| elfy | wut !!! | 18:59 |
| balloons | whoa | 19:00 |
| elfy | After this operation, 263 MB of additional disk space will be used. | 19:00 |
| elfy | with no-install-recommends ... | 19:00 |
| elfy | I think I'd rather not lol | 19:00 |
| elfy | don't remember wine wanting to do that before | 19:01 |
| elfy | that is a lot of stuff to get wine - http://pastebin.com/Q8rn95dr | 19:03 |
| balloons | wow.. I'd agree | 19:03 |
| balloons | I normally keep myself wine free, but I was messing around the other day with an app I guess | 19:03 |
| balloons | trying to recreate the problem and thinking what on earth left me snapshotted in time, I thought about the wine program.. and boom, sure enough | 19:04 |
| elfy | certainly a strange one | 19:10 |
| elfy | so - all in all might be best to get someone with wine already - but if you can't then I'll do it in a test setup over weekend when I do some daily tests | 19:11 |
| elfy | balloons: hang on - I'll boot my ubuntu test and do it in there | 19:13 |
| elfy | balloons: ok - it's installing now | 19:18 |
| phillw | balloons: is grub 2 on ALL spins across all flavours and architectures as of today? | 20:03 |
| balloons | phillw, no | 20:03 |
| balloons | it's nowhere as of yet | 20:03 |
| phillw | I'm sure i saw that hit QQ today, from somehwere? | 20:04 |
| balloons | yes.. but not the images to my knowledge | 20:04 |
| balloons | it came in late in the day | 20:04 |
| balloons | it should be there tomorrow | 20:04 |
| phillw | balloons: so it will be on EVERYTHING tomorrow respin? | 20:04 |
| balloons | assuming all the packages build.. for instance.. ppc failed | 20:06 |
| balloons | https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/grub2 | 20:06 |
| phillw | ARM / PPC/ AMD-MAC / i686 / AMD64 / Server etc. etc. ubuntu / kubuntu / lubuntu etc.... | 20:06 |
| balloons | amd64, i386, ppc | 20:07 |
| balloons | all flavours | 20:07 |
| balloons | no arm.. grub-efi isn't cahanging | 20:07 |
| balloons | we'd have to ask cjwatson for specifics | 20:08 |
| phillw | balloons: just thinking that it may be nice to ask elfy to put a sticky onto http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=416 so they all know what is going on (I'd suggest also that you read http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2056701 ) And also issue an email to the 'main' QA and L-QA with details from Colin, you know... just so the testers have a slight idea of such a massive change? :P | 20:09 |
| wxl | wish i could get stupid usb install working for ppc cuz i have another machine to play with potentially | 20:09 |
| wxl | (ppc) | 20:09 |
| balloons | :-) | 20:10 |
| balloons | phillw, yes, bien sir | 20:10 |
| balloons | the sticky on the forums isn't a bad idea actually | 20:10 |
| elfy | balloons phillw: someone write it and I'll sticky it | 20:10 |
| balloons | I'll be putting it on the anounce of the tracker | 20:10 |
| phillw | wxl: the last person I knew who had it working was Lars, but he has already said that he has pretty much given up & uses dvd-RW now. I know that this is of no use to you guys with a cd reader and not a dvd reader in your ppc :( | 20:11 |
| wxl | phillw: well my big issue is probably more laziness and cheapskateness more than anything. i need to get a cdrw | 20:12 |
| elfy | or cariboo will phillw balloons | 20:12 |
| phillw | balloons: one thing I have learned is that testers do not like being treated as mushrooms :D | 20:12 |
| balloons | who does? :-) | 20:13 |
| balloons | I wasn't expecting it to go in until next week | 20:13 |
| wxl | maybe if they're really tasty mushrooms | 20:13 |
| phillw | wxl: this one is... a totally new grub that can screw your system :P | 20:13 |
| phillw | the forum guys have already picked up on it :) | 20:14 |
| phillw | wxl: how did you dd to the usb ? | 20:15 |
| phillw | brb... nicotine enhancement needed | 20:15 |
| wxl | dd if=whatever-it's-called.iso of=/dev/whereever-the-usb-is | 20:16 |
| wxl | kind of can't screw up dd | 20:16 |
| wxl | ↑ phillw | 20:16 |
| elfy | balloons: if there is a thread that needs stickying then PM me on forum - but I'm off now | 20:17 |
| balloons | elfy, cheers | 20:17 |
| balloons | I will ty | 20:17 |
| phillw | wxl: have you tried with setting the bs ? | 20:20 |
| wxl | phillw: hm? | 20:20 |
| phillw | back in the dim and distant past, before lubuntu had a self check, we used a bs of 2048 when reading the cd. | 20:21 |
| phillw | wxl: http://forum.phillw.net/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=94 | 20:21 |
| phillw | that is my old archive area that held stuff before we were adopted :) | 20:21 |
| wxl | not sure that's relevant to usb tho, da? | 20:22 |
| phillw | wxl: as it was piping output, there would have been a reason for it. Although it may have been that reading a CD 1 byte at a time was excrutialiting slow. just an idea to try, as it did get md5sum to be happy. | 20:23 |
| phillw | calculating the count is an easy sum to do, | 20:24 |
| wxl | whoa improvements to virtualbox for you non-qemu users http://www.webupd8.org/2012/09/virtualbox-420-released-with-support.html | 20:25 |
| wxl | anywho i didn't check the md5 so i guess i should start there but i have had probelms with usb in the past. i want it to work so darn bad. i should just give it up. | 20:25 |
| phillw | wxl: checking the md5 is always one of the easiest things to forget :) | 20:26 |
| wxl | like i said i didn't forget it XD | 20:26 |
| phillw | wxl: as elfy said earlier .... take a tip from an old man - you didn't forget - you forgot to remember | 20:27 |
| phillw | I love that statement :D | 20:27 |
| wxl | well, i chose to forget. :) | 20:29 |
| phillw | nice about VirtualBox, I have the choice of that and kvm on piglet. Main server runs kvm, but my slow internet link means setting up VM's on a fast system are negated as I only have ~ 512 kb/s link :( One of the guys on a good link says that whilst he knows he is on a remote system, the graphical stuff runs with little lag..... Damn, to have a decent b/band link :'( | 20:31 |
| wxl | i've had happiness with headless vboxes and in general been really pleased | 20:32 |
| phillw | wxl: the sii server runs a couple of VM's for F/OSS teams, they are delighted with them. If anyone from L-QA wants a ppc VM set up I will happily do it (I even have one spare ipV4 address at present). | 20:34 |
| phillw | I bought a few, as they are getting rarer than hens teeth :D | 20:35 |
| wxl | hmmmmmm sounds like a good idea although esp with ppc it seems nothing beats real hardware | 20:35 |
| phillw | wxl: this seems to be the case with the latest bugs :( | 20:36 |
| wxl | maybe vbox offers better options for virtualizing display | 20:36 |
| wxl | not sure if it even supports ppc | 20:37 |
| wxl | never tried | 20:37 |
| phillw | does vbox support quemu ? | 20:37 |
| phillw | as in, the instructions Julien posted up on the ppc area? | 20:38 |
| wxl | not sure | 20:38 |
| phillw | one way to find out :P https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Lubuntu/Testing/PPC%26Mac64#How_to_test_on_any_architectures_.28using_qemu.29 | 20:40 |
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| phillw | virtual box is not an emulator ... quite clear | 20:43 |
| wxl | sudo wget 'https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MATLAB?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=matlab-r2011a.desktop' -O /usr/local/share/applications/matlab.desktop | 20:49 |
| wxl | oops | 20:49 |
| wxl | sorry wrong channel | 20:49 |
| phillw | wxl: no worries, it happens to us all :D | 20:50 |
| xnox | Hmmm... | 20:53 |
| xnox | wxl: use python-scipy or scilab | 20:53 |
| xnox | wxl: faster, better graphics and better integration with e.g. LaTeX | 20:54 |
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| wxl | so in my desperate attempt to get my 12.04 ppc updated to quantal i tried a sudo do-release-upgrade -d and it told me no new version found. any ideas what the deal is? | 23:37 |
| wxl | honestly i don't know how it works; if it's looking for alphas, betas, rcs, dailies, or any of the above. i'm thinking that the fact that the beta1 failed and/or that recent daily builds are failing may be why?? | 23:38 |
| wxl | is dd if=/dev/usb bs=2048 count=(iso size/2048) | md5sum not a realiable way to get md5sum on a usb drive? i dd'd the iso over there and the iso matches with published values. | 23:56 |
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